#classic-doom-maps-mods
haughty flower
@cinder moon tfw axe slash sound is off by 0.25-0.5 seconds
like almost every gun sound is off
by a bit
toxic dirge
Did anyone ever try making sound mods for DOOM 2016?
Ive got a buddy thats really good with WWise and reverse-engineering audio in it, so I'm sure we would be able to cook up some dank sound mods for it
also custom music
in doom 2016
and im decompiling some sounds already
some >tfw some is actually 2 GB
and @cinder moon that looks a LOT like golden souls
was this mod inspired by it by any chance? 
cinder moon
@toxic dirge Yes- ish
toxic dirge
Ive got 2598 fully working DOOM 2016 sounds and music extracted STRAIGHT FROM THE DAMN GAME
aight, this gonna be good
what
there are so many music cues and bits of songs from the e3 trailer
or at least ones that sound like the e3 trailer
they arent in the soundtrack
is this real ๐ ฑeta?
umm
there's also two different muffled and echoed ssg firing sounds
even though there isnt any use of anything like that in-game. or even if there is then its done dynamically because these are the only pre-edited ones
3735 voice lines (not including the dlc1, dlc2 and dlc3 voice pack files) in the us ver of doom2016
nice
royal wave
That's still writers block
warped rampart
That was me with my Prey mod
trim falcon
oh
umbral sail
my project just ends because I lost all motivation
weak lodge
i got bored and decided to start making a E1M1
vocal crypt
wat
royal wave
He's making an E1M1 themed map
vocal crypt
oh
weak lodge
actually a remake of a E1M1 that i made like a year or so ago
cinder moon
WIP
hexed sky
I think it'd be nice if you could get an E1M1-sounding track that isn't quite E1M1 but sounds like it slightly
umbral sail
Anyone here would like to test the first map in my mod? I can now say I think I fully finished it
toxic dirge
I can :3
umbral sail
let me prepare a test version quickly
toxic dirge
umbral sail
toxic dirge
I should be working on my own mod right now but what the hell :p
why not play something different so I dont get burnt out xd
umbral sail
I really need to take a break and play other mods too
I need to fix my titlemap first
toxic dirge
rip
dim ravine
Hey Nex, I wouldn't mind testing
toxic dirge
heya @warped rampart , what kinda mod are you making?
warped rampart
I don't wanna give away too much right now, but it'll have its own campaign megaWAD
toxic dirge
kewl
vocal crypt
you made in OBLIGE
warped rampart
You can't generate good looking city maps in Oblige, I don't think
haughty flower
oooh ohohoh
someone on gog contactedme
maybe i can still get riddick
but i think i read that all the codes expired
ashen saddle
Video of a room I just made https://streamable.com/xe0km
toxic dirge
Do we have anyone who knows ZScript well here?
I wanna know how hard it would be to make custom actions (ex. A_Doom4Pistol or something like that)
dim ravine
Hmmm I only know the basics, however BrutalDoom v 20 has the DOOM 4 pistol replicated. Maybe you can pull the scripts type thing.
haughty flower
@ashen saddle did i see smoothdoom when the mancubus died? also some audio enhancement?
shadow bone
@toxic dirge Custom functions aren't hard at all
Here's an example of what one looks like ```C
action void FireBullet() {
A_PlaySound(invoker.AttackSound,CHAN_AUTO);
A_AlertMonsters();
A_FireProjectile("Bullet",0,0,0,0,0,0);
}
Then in my weapon I can just do this: ```C
States {
Fire:
PISG B 1 FireBullet;
PISC CD 2;
Goto Ready;
}
ooooh
this is what i tried to do
action function A_Doom4Pistol() { A_AlertMonsters(); A_PlaySound("doom4/pistol",1); A_GunFlash(); A_FireBullets(0,0,1,3,"LaserPuff"); }
shadow bone
Looks alright other than it should be action void unless you need to return a value.
void means "this doesn't return anything"
toxic dirge
Yea I know
fleet basin
is any one who is good at map making online?
shadow bone
seems slow today. Whats your question?
fleet basin
well im tring to add monsters i know how to but they wont show up in doom builder
vocal crypt
sounds like didn't add a Doom ID at the end of the actor..identification thing.
*doomnum
fleet basin
so change the actor number
vocal crypt
show us the code first.
fleet basin
the whole code or just the actor number
shadow bone
The first few lines should be enough for starters I think
fleet basin
you want it from the decorate file right?
shadow bone
Yeah, where you're defining your monster
fleet basin
ACTOR Arachnophyte 3104
{
//$Category monsters
Health 500
Radius 64
Height 100
Speed 6
PainChance 15
Mass 5000
MONSTER
+NoGravity
+FloatBob
+Float
+NoRadiusDMG
+FireResist
SEESOUND "arachnophyte/sight"
PAINSOUND "arachnophyte/pain"
DEATHSOUND "arachnophyte/death"
ATTACKSOUND "spider/attack"
OBITUARY "%o was perforated by an Arachnophyte."
ExplosionDamage 128
ExplosionRadius 255
Decal Bulletchip
states
{
Spawn:
APYT A 0 A_PlaySound("arachnophyte/engine")
APYT ABABAB 4 A_Look
Loop
See:
APYT A 0 A_PlaySound("arachnophyte/engine")
APYT AABBAABBAABB 2 A_Chase
Loop
Missile:
APYT A 0 A_PlaySound("arachnophyte/engine")
APYT BABAB 4 A_FaceTarget
APYT A 0 A_PlaySound("arachnophyte/engine")
APYT CD 4 A_SPosAttack
APYT D 1 A_SpidRefire
Goto Missile+6
i did not also mean to send a screenn shot
shadow bone
At first glance it looks fine and doesn't interfere with any built-in editor numbers
fleet basin
I plan to use it for doom builder 2 I don't own gzsdoombuilder
fleet basin
No I use gz doom and doom builder is what I have its what was out when I downloaded it and I use anything from GZDoom to zandornum or ho ever you say it
vocal crypt
why can't you download GZDoom Builder?
vocal crypt
^
fleet basin
ok ill download it
shadow bone
Anyway, that shouldn't affect your monster loading (they're all the same in that regard). I haven't used DoomBuilder in a while but I think if you press F2 it will show what's loaded.
fleet basin
yeah i didnt know about GZdoombuilder tell recently... i used to do modding for doom many years ago i did all the janky ass shit i was shown how to do..
ill have to start from scratch when i get home
shadow bone
You joke, but it's practically true for me. Sometimes I want a huge sprawling campaign over massive hourlong maps, sometimes I want a quick popcorn session over a single short episode. Oblige gives me the freedom to generate exactly what I want without searching for the perfect mapset for today's mood.
It's especailly good when playing randomizer mods
Almost sort of a roguelike experience
vocal crypt
But not invasion maps
umbral sail
oblige is definetly good if youre bored and want some quick maps
umbral sail
man, this foliage really is time consuming lol
vocal crypt
the only foliage I see is hte crisp walls that were presumably burnt from the lava
so it's not even proper foliage
umbral sail
the area on the other side is just here because I can
you won't even get there
its still WIP
vocal crypt
I can only see one jewlepixel
so from that, I cannot see foliage or green at all
I only see the remains of a city the demons have buttblasted
umbral sail
buttblasted is good said lmao
I wanted to have the portal to hell in the same map but scrapped that
vocal crypt
you already have one in there, just jump in the lava and have a swimming time while the hot temperatures burn your skin off with excruciating pain like the Indiana Jones scene with the wax figures.
umbral sail
lmfao
fleet basin
XD
dont use xwe for anything <<<<< f*ck you ill use it for what ever i want XD (i do forget to mind myself some times)
shadow bone
Slade really is so much better though ๐
vocal crypt
more organized and better UI
vocal crypt
so I replaced the demon/pinky monsters with the beheaded kamikazi from Realm667
Imagine how fun that was ๐
pearl sundial
boring
umbral sail
your life is not complete until you got segway zombies
haughty flower
whats best in life?
Having Fun.
go watch the original conan
its an absolutely awesome movie, and it will tell you the answer
someone make a doom wad without testing it once.
haughty flower
you think thats a good idea`
warped rampart
He didn't say it couldn't be a map
prisma saddle
Would be an interesting programing excersise.
haughty flower
it's like releasing the beta to an anticipated game.
haughty flower
sometimes it is like releasing the actually finished game
fleet basin
amy one usefull online?
royal wave
How can we be of service
fleet basin
im having moster trouble they dont want to com in for work and my wad is missing my custom monsters i did all the steps right and they wont show up
i used to mod manny years ago
royal wave
Do you have slade?
fleet basin
yes
royal wave
Okay, can you show me a screenshot of it viewing any one of the sprites that doesn't show? please don't crop anything out
fleet basin
well i cant get any of it to who in the tab
royal wave
What do you mean?
fleet basin
so i added the monster to the wad and i go to add it in do doombuilder or even GZdoom builder <<< (im new to this program ) they wont show up atall to add them
ill show you a few screen shots
pt 1
pt3
royal wave
you just need to click once on a sprite in slade to view it
fleet basin
the sprites are not the problem but ok
royal wave
Well you said they weren't showing, right?
fleet basin
i said the monster wasnt showing
royal wave
Not showing in what
there are several problems for different programs of monsters "not showing"
fleet basin
in doom builder or gzdoombuilder
fleet basin
ACTOR Arachnophyte 3104
{
//$Category monsters
Health 500
Radius 64
Height 100
Speed 6
PainChance 15
Mass 5000
MONSTER
+NoGravity
+FloatBob
+Float
+NoRadiusDMG
+FireResist
SEESOUND "arachnophyte/sight"
PAINSOUND "arachnophyte/pain"
DEATHSOUND "arachnophyte/death"
ATTACKSOUND "spider/attack"
OBITUARY "%o was perforated by an Arachnophyte."
ExplosionDamage 128
ExplosionRadius 255
Decal Bulletchip
states
{
Spawn:
APYT A 0 A_PlaySound("arachnophyte/engine")
APYT ABABAB 4 A_Look
Loop
See:
APYT A 0 A_PlaySound("arachnophyte/engine")
APYT AABBAABBAABB 2 A_Chase
Loop
Missile:
APYT A 0 A_PlaySound("arachnophyte/engine")
APYT BABAB 4 A_FaceTarget
APYT A 0 A_PlaySound("arachnophyte/engine")
APYT CD 4 A_SPosAttack
APYT D 1 A_SpidRefire
Goto Missile+6
Pain:
APYT A 1 A_Pain
Goto See
Death:
APYT A 0 A_PlaySound("spider/death")
APYT A 4 A_Scream
APYT B 4
APYT E 8
APYT F 8
APYT G 6 A_Explode
APYT H 6 A_Fall
APYT I 6
APYT J 6
Stop
}
}
thats the whole code
royal wave
are you including the wad/pk3 as a resource?
fleet basin
i am and also using the wad as the base wad that im edditing
royal wave
in doom builder, do you see a warning flag on the bottom right?
fleet basin
yeah but the error is the the the doom 2 wad not fuckinghell.wad
royal wave
there's your problem
it's loading your custom wad before doom2.wad
that's why it thinks doom2.wad is the problem
fleet basin
ohhh
royal wave
You've got a lump in your mod that shares a name with SW18_7
Fix that and things should load correctly
or the TID number
yeah whatever is labeled 2291 in decorate is your problem
fleet basin
i fixed the error and it still wont load my monster... i did everything like i was told to i used the same steps i have allways used and it still wont work im not getting any errors nothing is wrong and i cant load actor 3104
shadow bone
You shouldn't have to "load" doom2.wad for anything, really...
royal wave
It's never done that for me
shadow bone
Sounds weird to me, but I'll defer since I can't actually run the editor right now
fleet basin
i used to allways do that when making a new mod i neded it for textures
shadow bone
For some reason I feel like that adds it as a PWAD, and there's a proper way to have it load as an IWAD. But I can't recall...
fleet basin
this is why i use the doom 2 wad
shadow bone
What configuration file are you using?
fleet basin
i dont have a config file.. im going to kill the wad after i figure out how to load the monsters
why is soft modding a 3DS easier than this
vocal crypt
because you're not dealing with 20+ year old code
shadow bone
Okay, try this: Exclude Doom2.wad from testing, and then when you start GZDoom it should ask what IWAD you want to use
fleet basin
ok
shadow bone
If you include that resource in testing, it double-loads it on top of itself
Fair warning, I'm taking an educated guess at best
shadow bone
Huh.
fleet basin
last time i used thats the shape of the monster im testing
vocal crypt
you didn't modify the iwad did chu?
fleet basin
no not in a while
shadow bone
That should be "never" lol
vocal crypt
*elaborate
shadow bone
IWADs aren't meant to be modified
fleet basin
last time i did some edditing was yesterday right now oh i didnt eddit the iwad
vocal crypt
oh.
fleet basin
all i did was load with out a stock doom 2wad
nothing and when i did it this time it worked
shadow bone
Oh, that's not what I meant. Go ahead and include it as a resrouce, but there should be a checkbox that says "exclude this resource from testing"
fleet basin
ohhhh ok
ill reload it
click that right
nvm im dumb
i got it
huh so i wad loading things wrong i guess thanks thats all i needed
fleet basin
yeah thanks guys
ashen saddle
https://streamable.com/2pcqc This map is going well
thorny walrus
heh, that's a cute opener
vocal crypt
you're a cute can opener
thorny walrus
wh-what
thorny walrus
probably modded
vocal crypt
Oh
thorny walrus
the AV fire is distractingly hi-fi
vocal crypt
smoothdoom is one of them mods
thorny walrus
yeah, i use Smooth Doom myself but no sound packs
it's just a few more in-between frames for everything so it doesn't seem 'off' to me
vocal crypt
wtf with chaingun sound
thorny walrus
sounds kinda bass-heavy doesn't it
ashen saddle
I enjoy the less-bitcrushed sound effects
fleet basin
is thier away to add my custom monster to my monsters tab?
toxic dirge
@fleet basin Add //$Category CATEGORYHERE,THISCOULDBEANYTHING into your ACTOR's decorate
Dont forget about the //$ before Category
its important
fleet basin
ahh ok ok
toxic dirge
and you can also add //$Title if you want the editor to display a different name than defined in the code
This is confirmed working with gzdoom builder bugfix (latest build) by me so should work ๐
fleet basin
awesome now i got to quick murge my shit in to wad XD
toxic dirge
lol
haughty flower
Does anyone know a place to find good forest/vegetation textures
?
Also
How do I do slopes?
haughty flower
Well
Inclines basically
Slopes floors
Sloped floors
Can be gzdoom builder or slade
royal wave
slopes are really simple
what you want to do is go to a linedef of where you want the slope to be
and give it the slope action
you also need to make sure that where you want the slope to happen, there needs to be a height difference
as when assigning the action, it modifies the sector that's infront or behind
so have something like this
Then set the line between the two to plane align (slope)
And if you did it right, this is what you should see
Or you can have it this way if you want too
warped rampart
You say that as if it was impossible in the past
royal wave
original joke
fleet basin
D: but i wasnt joking DX
im kidding
idk about doing more mapping any way i got a project im doing right now
ashen saddle
Ya know, I was wondering about that lately but hadn't looked it up
I feel so educated
fleet basin
when building a mod i have to have my map files under custom monsters and weapons right?
fleet basin
dont you love it when your mod wont load all the decorate files ๐
toxic dirge
A good way to test if it loads everything is to make a map that includes all the monsters and other stuff from every decorate file and load it in-game
the acs editor never loads every decorate in there for me as well :p
and I don't really know why would you want to edit decorate files with the script editor
I always have slade on the status bar sooooo
yeah
fleet basin
im not using it to eddit it i know what works and what does it crashed a few of my monsters and then they all stopped loading...
unreal oyster
don't call all of your decorate files DECORATE and GZDB will work fine
use #include
that's what it's for
if you have that many DECORATE files, you really shouldn't be using .wad anyway
at that point, it's time to move to pk3
haughty flower
Interesting
Not really a technical question, but how do you guys organize all your doom-related files? Do you put them all in a single folder? Do you categorize everything? I already have a system, it's just interesting to see how other people organize their stuff
toxic dirge
make a "master" decorate file, name every other one something other like code1, code2 etc and then in the master type #include "decoratefilenamehere"
@fleet basin
repeat until it includes everything
fleet basin
ahh ok thanks
toxic dirge
@haughty flower I've got a WADs and mods folder
and this is the insides
I try to organize stuff but it's painful xD
haughty flower
I'm on mobile so can't take a screenshot sorry
But like
My folders are separated in : Apps(stuff like OBLIGE and Slade), Source ports (folders for ports), IWADS, Mods, and Standalone packs (for stuff that comes in its own folders like the hell on earth starter pack)
All of those have their own subfolders
For example Mods are divided between gameplay Mods, total/partial conversions and maps
haughty flower
Oh and there's also a resources folder for dev stuff
toxic dirge
Also what do you guys think about me putting metal MIDIs in my maps? ๐
haughty flower
I mean that's basically what ID did so it's a great idea
toxic dirge
like Metallica - Master of Puppets but it's midi ๐ ๐ฏ ๐
or Panthera-Mouth for war
haughty flower
Do it
It's awesome
That moment when you realize your doom folder is more organized then your university files
haughty flower
that even happens to the head of the university
warped rampart
I'd love to have a teacher that loves Doom as much as I do
haughty flower
my art/english teacher back the days loved descent
warped rampart
"Hey, can you round this up to an A"
"No"
"1v1 me Doom deathmatch, that will decide whether I pass this math exam"
haughty flower
I had a teacher that liked my metal music, so he attached my iPod to an aux cord and played it full blast
royal wave
that would be an awful teacher
vocal crypt
he should be fired /s
haughty flower
Best part is that this is Utah, where metal is viewed as satanic and all that
royal wave
I would not want a teacher who's willing to let you game the system
vocal crypt
^
haughty flower
It was playing in my pocket on accident and he heard it
Liked the music and asked the class if he could play it, in which they said yes
Idk if they realized it was metal lol
so i guess utah people in general hate metal people, thereby being against gods commandment about loving the next person like yourself
so they think they are btter than god or what? ^^
vocal crypt
the answer is don't think about it
royal wave
Utah in general are very... tame
Not to imply everyone there are goody two shoes
but you'll be hard pressed to find a general acceptance of any source of media that's worse than PG-13
royal wave
They have the most strict liquor laws as well
haughty flower
Yeh
royal wave
You can't sell alcohol as a private business
vocal crypt
so they're the helicopter parent state
haughty flower
The second you leave and border from Utah there's like 4 liquor stores
royal wave
Either has to be a chain restarant or state funded place
Yup
People from utah are willing to take a two hour drive to where I live just for the better booze
haughty flower
There's a state-owned liquor store coming next to me
vocal crypt
insane people, those are.
haughty flower
But state owned so no thx
royal wave
it's an easy drive actually
warped rampart
Can't have a fox as a pet in Colorado smh
royal wave
I-80 towards nevada is a pretty straight strip of highway with just enough stops in between
haughty flower
And it's boring af
My dad has me drive that part or from Beaver to Scipio just because he doesn't want to drive the boring land
royal wave
he'd rather take the longer route just because of the scenery?
haughty flower
No, he takes the practical one
But places he doesn't want to drive goes to kids lol
royal wave
I'm talking the part of I-80 when you leave toole
however the fuck that place is spelled
Toolle?
haughty flower
Is that the one that goes towards Reno?
royal wave
Yeah that's what your highway markers say, lol
royal wave
You know the Ugly tree, right?
haughty flower
Yep
royal wave
yeah that direction
haughty flower
The weird painted one in the middle of nowhere?
haughty flower
lol
royal wave
yeah we get a lot of Utah tourists just for the alcohol
and every now and then one of them will be stupid enough to drive right off the freeway and try to speed in the mud, only to get stuck
Hey jackass, the saltflats aren't right off the freeway
warped rampart
I just realized we're having a discussion about beer and stuff in a modding channel
haughty flower
Not Americans, people in Utah because state gov has a lot of alcohol regulations, so they go out of state to get it
Oh
warped rampart
Not trying to micro-mod, just throwing that out there xP
haughty flower
Thought this was still offtopic lol
We should probably continue in offtopic
What is there to continue
vocal crypt
I've been pinged
haughty flower
I was too yet nothing was there
warped rampart
LETS PLAY PING PONG
haughty flower
That'll ping?
weak lodge
made a E1M1, any thoughts?
haughty flower
oh wad!
downloads
@weak lodge the visual design is a bit barebones, but ok
what i didnt like is the design of the gameplay flow going through the map, it felt a bit too much like stop and go for me
weak lodge
trying to pull off that id-style feel
haughty flower
maybe open the map up a bit more, with windows
put some things in that connect different parts of the map, and i dontmean that people can walk over like that, i mean connect them visually or something, know what imean?
yeah i can see that emulated id style
weak lodge
yeah
haughty flower
your first map?
haughty flower
from a pure technical point, you have the ingredients down at least, you have junctions where you need to go back and use a key, you have n item that needs to be earned, even if it is just running through a pool to get the shotgun, but somehow a real flow is missing
oh also
whatever i say, its a good thing, because i am always comparing to id maps
maybe take out some doors and put a bit more verticality in it
weak lodge
thank you, i'll keep that in mind
haughty flower
i mean i feel like maybe you change like 3 things, open up the outside ara, take out 2 doors, and connect 2 spots with a window, the map would already feel so much more connected
toxic dirge
goiz, how does one use HD sprites in-game and not make them look either gigantic or really obviously scaled down
And by HD I mean 1920x1925
lucid tree
Will everyone yell at me if I mention something brutal doom related lol (I know the mod is largely controversal)?
I'm just going to mention this mod of Brutal Doom a friend and I made. We added a handful of features and attempted to balance Brutal Doom to be more in line with a more Doom-like feel. http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-fork. You can also pick up and throw cyberdemon heads.
haughty flower
so, how can i make it that uhh
basically i want to make a certain sprite replace every other flat/wall/ceiling texture without having to go through the pain with renaming
what do
haughty flower
uh-oh
unreal oyster
without renaming + replacing
unreal oyster
you'd need to use an event handler, which loads at the world start, and then goes through all of the flats & linedefs in the map and changes their texture to whatever you want
event handlers are a bit lower on the wiki page
umbral sail
I think I finished it now
haughty flower
that's a lot of trash
did they take out the trash before they died or something?
xdd
umbral sail
๐คท๐ป
toxic dirge
Lookin good
umbral sail
thanks
unreal oyster
it's really not that hard to do the texture replacer thing, this is the code you'd need
class TexSwapHandler : EventHandler {
override void WorldLoaded(WorldEvent e) {
// get textures
TextureID walltex = TexMan.CheckForTexture("STARTAN2", TexMan.Type_Wall);
TextureID floortex = TexMan.CheckForTexture("FLOOR0_1", TexMan.Type_Flat);
TextureID ceiltex = TexMan.CheckForTexture("CEIL1_1", TexMan.Type_Flat);
// flats
for (int i = 0; i < level.Sectors.Size(); i++) {
Sector s = level.Sectors[i];
if ((s.GetTexture(0) != skyflatnum) && floortex)
s.SetTexture(0, floortex);
if ((s.GetTexture(1) != skyflatnum) && ceiltex)
s.SetTexture(1, ceiltex);
}
// lines
if (walltex) {
for (int i = 0; i < level.Lines.Size(); i++) {
Line l = level.Lines[i];
// do front first, then back
for (int s = 0; s < 2; s++) {
if (l.sidedef[s] && l.sidedef[s].GetTexture(Side.top))
l.sidedef[s].SetTexture(Side.top, walltex);
if (l.sidedef[s] && l.sidedef[s].GetTexture(Side.mid))
l.sidedef[s].SetTexture(Side.mid, walltex);
if (l.sidedef[s] && l.sidedef[s].GetTexture(Side.bottom))
l.sidedef[s].SetTexture(Side.bottom, walltex);
}
}
}
}
}
i didn't write this myself, so give credit to Rachael since she wrote that code
though it would be basically the same thing even if i did write it, lol
that code specifically would change the whole map to use the default GZDB textures
@haughty flower
toxic dirge
Help
chaindoom.wad:ZSCRIPT, line 1: Parent class EventHandler of TexSwapHandler not accessible to ZScript version 2.3.0 chaindoom.wad:ZSCRIPT, line 2: Type WorldEvent not accessible to ZScript version 2.3.0 chaindoom.wad:ZSCRIPT, line 2: Invalid type Type for function parameter chaindoom.wad:ZSCRIPT, line 2: Attempt to override non-existent virtual function WorldLoaded
warped rampart
Why a WAD, though
fleet basin
thats not all the wad is also my second screen shot didnt send
unreal oyster
stop doing that
fleet basin
it shows why i only have the decorates showing
unreal oyster
use #includes
fleet basin
its not as janky as it looks
unreal oyster
instead of having tons of files called DECORATE, have one main file called DECORATE, call the others like, DEC_WEAPONS, DEC_MONSTERS, and then in the main DECORATE file:
#include "DEC_WEAPONS"
#include "DEC_MONSTERS"
// etc...
though i'd encourage you to move to pk3 anyway
fleet basin
i never worked with pk3 files befor
fleet basin
ok
unreal oyster
what you are doing is just not suitable for .wad
fleet basin
ok
warped rampart
Once you figure out PK3 it's really easy to put together
fleet basin
i was thinking about using unwad to unpack them but rip its dead and i cant find a link for it
fleet basin
how does this look so far
only example i have for on how pk3 files should look russian over kill and colombine doom <<<< dont judge me for having that file
torn timber
You know you can work with pk3 format in SLADE, right?
fleet basin
i did
i also made it in to a pk3 file
i made my first PK3 file in the most janky way posable XD
i also like eddting in windos any way i feel more at home doing so.. and it worked for me so im not going to make a fuss about it
fleet basin
welp im useless
warped rampart
What happened?
warped rampart
What's the error?
fleet basin
GLDEFS warning in "get ready for shit.pk3\gldefs.txt", line 86. DECORATE class "Demolisher" does not exist. <<<< i have the file but i dont know where i put the file but it shouldnt prevent the rest of my monsters from loading in
torn timber
you need to make sure they are loaded in then, or comment out the section that still references "Demolisher"
fleet basin
yeah im going to do remove it from the list for the moment tell i can figure out what to do with gldefs.txt....
torn timber
You can separate GLDEFS in the same manner you can separate DECORATE, so you know
fleet basin
oh ok just make a folder called GLDEFS
torn timber
well no
that's not what I mean
You can have a central GLDEFS file that uses #include to link to other files and treat those files as GLDEFS files
you can organize them into a folder if you want
Also you can avoid having to compress all of your folders and files into a zip and then renaming it as a pk3 every single time you make an edit by just doing everything in the editor
fleet basin
sorry i kindof new that
torn timber
Also you should know that even if you click on "New Zip Archive" when going to make a new .pk3 project in SLADE, you can still change the extension in the save dialog directly to pk3 to avoid having to rename the zip file
fleet basin
ahh ok
royal wave
I should make E1M1 in source 2 for VR
fleet basin
that would be awesome id play the shit out of it..
still doesn not want to load the file <<<FML
torn timber
well, does it give a file path and a line number that the error is located on?
fleet basin
GLDEFS warning in "get ready for shit again.pk3\gldefs.txt", line 86. DECORATE class "Demolisher" does not exist. thats all i added #include "gldefs"
royal wave
you don't include gldefs
fleet basin
it asked me to include it
royal wave
...where?
fleet basin
i see that
now all i need to do is figure out why my monsters wont laod in i think ill just give up for the night
torn timber
You can use #include with GLDEFS
it's even right on the wiki
I've done so before to keep say, decoration lighting separate from lighting used for monsters
in order to fix the above problem, either complete the "Demolisher" actor definition in your DECORATE, or you can comment out or remove the second of the GLDEFS that references "Demolisher"
that's all you can really do at this point
fleet basin
i figured it out
thanks to looking at the rusian over kill mod
i should have done #include "Decorate/Ammo/Boolet.txt" not #include "DEC_FlamerZombie"
fleet basin
I see my computer died so I'll have to do it later
ashen saddle
Trying this out just for fun
umbral sail
Looks good
haughty flower
@fleet basin still in need of help?
fleet basin
Always I'm not at the computer I'm still new to pk3 I can sorta work with wads thats about it
@haughty flower sorry I'm having trouble getting this the tutorial I was linked was isn't helping much... And I'm retarded when doing new thinks I'm going to load up the lap top now
haughty flower
i can help you in voice, or in DMs with screenies
either one
just ping me somewhere later
fleet basin
OK cool that would be a great help let me get my headset
unreal oyster
put the line version "2.5" at the top of the file
haughty flower
oh okay
unreal oyster
and then actually, i kinda forgot something, but you'll have to do this
haughty flower
it works
unreal oyster
yeah, the thing is about that ZScript system is that it'll actually work on any map, with any textures
umbral sail
it just works
unreal oyster
you can use Valiant, Ancient Aliens, whatever megawad you want
so it's far superior than the old way of replacing every texture manually, lol
haughty flower
@warped rampart weren't you the one that made the "doom but every thing is a chaingun"
yeah
warped rampart
OH
Oh, yeah, I was gonna do that texture thing
I didn't actually recognzie the texture until now xD
umbral sail
me neither lol
warped rampart
It's a thing of beauty, though
haughty flower
zombiemen aren't chainguns
@warped rampart do you plan on making the monsters chainguns as well?
torn timber
I require this script to replace everything with ASHWALL2, I know how much @torpid summit loves him some ashwall X3
haughty flower
with the plasma rifle being hitscan
you could have it where when it hits a wall, instead of the normal puff it's a blue puff
haughty flower
fdsjfodsfjlsdakjflksdjflkdsjflksdjal
could have it where bfg fires a chaingun that's firing
that can be done through scripts
royal wave
umbral sail
nice
fleet basin
Rip
umbral sail
Lol y
fleet basin
idk
i figured out what may be wrong with my wad and its the dumbest shit ever kill me so now i need to restart XD
weak lodge
alright, how do you make a teleporter trap where like you walk over a line and monsters teleport in from a different sector
fleet basin
i give up on paking pk3 files...
i was told all the files where right in the pk3 file but it still didnt work id rather give up my coppy hue and a legit copy of nuclear throne to some one and have them do it for me then keep working i dont will do keep trying to re pack and re do every thing i have not much space on my lap top and i cant seen to do it right,, im serious about the coppy of hue and nuclear throne.. i quit officaly
@umbral sail it wasnt the fix
haughty flower
in short, you basically make one sided windows (visuals) OR you make an outside sector the same sector as the play is (sound), and as soon as monsters hear/see you, they walk to your teleporter
umbral sail
what fix, anyway
haughty flower
@unreal oyster about that zscript
how do i change the sky texture
do i change this?
skyflatnum
unreal oyster
i believe that's something ZScript is missing tbh
haughty flower
damn it
unreal oyster
right now, just use ACS for that
haughty flower
i'll just replace files then
haughty flower
alright
i needed markers for ACS right
in .wad files
i thought this would work for every map
script 1 open
unreal oyster
you need to compile the script, SLADE will automatically put it in the markers
haughty flower
i compiled it
but it doesn't run
:((
or well
it doesn't change the textures
haughty flower
oh yeah
weak lodge
thanks
haughty flower
So I made my first map meant for multiplayer and uh
Well let me just put a pic
Uh
Should I be proud that I made this or disappointed in myself
hard elmBOT
Highsman13#7563 has been warned.
haughty flower
whoopsidoodles
royal wave
Let's not make terrywads please
umbral sail
^
proud belfry
Hey guys, I'm looking for a custom hud to use for Complex Doom + LCA
royal wave
Hmm let me see if I can find one for you
@proud belfry https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33079
unreal oyster
that doesn't seem to mention Complex Doom + LCA compatibility
royal wave
it's worth a shot
proud belfry
Yeah, I will try it
"It does not work with Zandronum, currently, as it does not have the necessary features."
proud belfry
Yep, LCA works properly only in Zandronum
royal wave
which version of zand are you using
vocal crypt
I know
royal wave
what does that have to do with merging
vocal crypt
the Zandronum part
proud belfry
Oh, I'm using the latest beta/alpha version of Zan 3.0
LCA isn't support by GZDoom, so ...
royal wave
yeah it's usually the other way around with mods
fleet basin
Try the project brutality hud
warped rampart
You mean Ultimate Doom Visor
vocal crypt
Don't think so, but it lowers your reputation with our faction
royal wave
I need to remake my warehouse area
haughty flower
needs more boxes
cyan haven
really?
cause its already overflowing with boxes
and i have the secret designs done how i intended
haughty flower
boss box fight
the thing about stuff like boxes
or for example people in a crowd
is to make it look like they are more than they actually are
@cyan haven make like 1-2 more areas, and keep those hidden behind boxes maybe?
and fill those areas with boxes?
idunno
like in uhh
E1M2 i'm pretty sure
cyan haven
i already have a secret area with more boxes
haughty flower
maybe Pyrolex can make a mod for us where everything is a box?
nu
karacho that's easily done
allow me to demonstrate
allows
cyan haven
i have this as a secret
theres a megasphere here because this secret is attached to another secret, but this one is awkward to find
and due to how i made the map to begin with, this is a room that you teleport to
also this level is definitely not for vanilla engines
haughty flower
hold on @haughty flower
cyan haven
because it crashes because of "no more visplanes" again
like basically all my new wads
cyan haven
oh lord
haughty flower
he asked for it lmao
He said "everything is a box"
i can't get the sky to work tho
The gun is not a box
cyan haven
its like super releasio 64 but with crates
haughty flower
fucking hell
vocal crypt
YOU ARE TO BE LYNCHERD, AND SENT TO HELL
haughty flower
WITHOUT A SHOTGUN
vocal crypt
AND BECOME THE TOY OF THE CYBERDEMON
haughty flower
well uh
have a sneak peak
of uhh
everything is a chaingun
The hand is still a hand.
vocal crypt
^
cyan haven
omfg
haughty flower
go die xDDDDDDD (just kidding admins pls don't ban)
haughty flower
@hazy lantern help me out ;_;
hazy lantern
vocal crypt
@haughty flower ao?
haughty flower
no stop
solid lynx
make a minigun shotgun that fires miniguns
haughty flower
and it will have a scary twist like those campfire stories
analog grail
guys i know lazor he is secretly anti doom
haughty flower
stop
i once found a nice discord, with cool dudes, creative dudes
people that like the same stuff i do
but then i foudn out
they all
including me
are quite crazy
solid lynx
they all fucking died
haughty flower
@haughty flower Next part, the enemies bleed miniguns, your miniguns shoot miniguns, the keycards are miniguns
okok now the twist
THIS
is said discord
dun dun DUUUUUUN
analog grail
dude yeah he is an sjw who thinks that doom and other games like it are bad for everyone
haughty flower
xd sure
solid lynx
chaingun machine broke
cyan haven
all the keycards are different coloured chainguns
haughty flower
@solid lynx 
solid lynx
hi
cyan haven
when it says "modding" in roles does that account for map creation with vanilla elements
unreal oyster
it's what it says on the tin, people who know how to modify the game in some way
cyan haven
oh
unreal oyster
so, yes
haughty flower
i made corrections to the bdcme when used with the episode version of the master levels, and i made a chainsaw in project brutality loud again
i will be sure to ask for a modder role once i have released something ๐
royal wave
We should just make a brutalized mod that doesn't steal assets and is actually fun to play
unreal oyster
nah, let's create mods that do more than just replace sprites and add gore ๐
vocal crypt
Day of Defeat, Doom mod
haughty flower
MORE gore
royal wave
actually I do have an idea for a gameplay mod that invilves those fake hitboxes
vocal crypt
DAY OF DEFEAT DOOM MOD
royal wave
Imagine if shooting the arm off of a zombie
haughty flower
we need a mortal kombat doom mod
royal wave
that zombie is still a threat
haughty flower
hee is how it goes:
royal wave
and so is the arm
haughty flower
each time you kill a monster, the game pauses, and awaits your commands
and when you input correctly, a fatality happens
warped rampart
Doom Text Adventure
haughty flower
if not the monster just collapses
warped rampart
Day of Doom
haughty flower
that can be a bit long if you just fired a rocket into a abunch of imps
haughty flower
doomsday
haughty flower
yeah they would be dead
vocal crypt
The Day of Doom
haughty flower
but the game would pause for each imp to input your fatality
warped rampart
DDR -- Doom Doom Revolution
vocal crypt
come on lads
warped rampart
I just realized I'm awful with serious Doom mods
vocal crypt
WW2 Class based shooter in Doom
The Day of Doom
or Doom of Defeat.
which one sounds better
The Day of Doom
or Doom of Defeat.
haughty flower
IKNOW
warped rampart
I think The Day of Doom sounds better
haughty flower
we shoudl make a sequel to doom, a real sequel to doom, one like Aliens is to Alien
and we call it
Dooms
vocal crypt
Doom 2.
haughty flower
no
vocal crypt
That's a "real" sequel tho
haughty flower
i said liek aliens is to alien
haughty flower
so it must be named dooms
warped rampart
We can make our own DOOM2016 sequel
vocal crypt
not Dooms
warped rampart
That would be fun
vocal crypt
well Dooms doesn't make sense
warped rampart
Doom, Doomer, Doomest
vocal crypt
so
haughty flower
xD
haughty flower
i will copyright "Dooms" right now
haughty flower
"dooms" isnt owned by id
warped rampart
That's a lawsuit sword
vocal crypt
but Doom is.
warped rampart
Shoved straight up thine ass
haughty flower
honestly, the day of dooms also sounds better
vocal crypt
nah
vocal crypt
The Days of Doom
haughty flower
nah thats too easy
vocal crypt
but it works
vocal crypt
of course, for me, the most PITA thing to these mods is getting the resources
haughty flower
sry just being a bit crazy at the moment
vocal crypt
what do you mean physical or digital resources
haughty flower
its a dumb joke
i am good with ressources
as long as they are not physical or digital
liek
man i can get you everything
just not
graphics
or sound
or money
or something else that would help
"I can get you everything except useful things"
exactly
thats my man!
Skeletor knows all
i can make german voices for your mods
if someone needs a nazi or something
i mean not a real nazi, cause i hate them
but the voice of someone pretending to be a nazi for the sake of making a mod
vocal crypt
Oh IDK, Day of Defeat is allies vs axis powers, and this The Days of Doom mod is DoD, but in DOOM, so...
haughty flower
that title generation also works with ninja you know?
vocal crypt
generatio?
haughty flower
"Day of the Ninja"
vocal crypt
ok....
vocal crypt
what mod
haughty flower
your mod
vocal crypt
the Days of Doom?
haughty flower
yeah
vocal crypt
it's Day of Defeat, but in Doom.
haughty flower
Call of Dooty.
vocal crypt
Day of Defeat being a multiplayer WW2 shooter objective bas-
no\
no
not that fool.
haughty flower
Call of Doom?
haughty flower
oh god in my street is a kid learning to
whats the word
where you make sounds with your mouth
liek a flute
Beatbox?
lol
Whistle?
yeah whistle
ok he wnadered off
@vocal crypt sounds awesome, also good title ^^
one could also do something like strife
with more rpg elements
fleet basin
Wow what a strange group of people
unreal oyster
what?
haughty flower
(he thinks boxes are people, just agree with him)
haughty flower
not you
fleet basin
No I was talking about the conversation between crypto an yes man
haughty flower
But we didn't even have a meaningful conversation.
haughty flower
boxes
weak lodge
it's like map11 from TNT
fleet basin
No shit and cool
vocal crypt
is team specific classes possible?
haughty flower
Are you referring to having 2 teams but they do not have the same classes for each?
if so, then yes.
idk how to do it, but it is possible
vocal crypt
yes, that
warped rampart
So, would the name that appears when you boot up a mod (I.e. โSeargent Mark IVโs Brutal Doom v20Bโ; โDeath Foretoldโ; โBrutal Doom: Project Brutalityโ)be in the gameinfo?
unreal oyster
yes
weak lodge
made a E2M8 out of boredom, any thoughts?
haughty flower
i will hace a look at it ^^
its a bit small, so it doesnt feel so epic,i also found it a touch more easy than the regular map, since the cyberdemon gets easily distracted be the cacos
but it is not bad in any way
weak lodge
thank you
weak lodge
updated it, it's a bit more bigger now and some enemies have been changed
weak lodge
yeah?
vocal crypt
would you consider adding respawning lost souls?
it'd make fighting the Cyber less easy when the other monsters are cleared
warped rampart
Why though
weak lodge
hmm
unreal oyster
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=57006 this is happening in like, a minute
haughty flower
still good ^^
haughty flower
@weak lodge the difference in size makes it mauch better for me personally
umbral sail
@fleet basin don't think that fits a intermission screen
fleet basin
i figured as much im still looking in to one of my songs that would fit..
ashen saddle
umbral sail
a racing game?
umbral sail
never said it isn't
ashen saddle
Yes, Nex, a racing game
SRB2 Kart is a complete kart racing overhaul for Sonic Robo Blast 2.
weak lodge
srb2 was lit
safe timber
pearl sundial
looks great so far