#classic-doom-maps-mods | DOOM | Page 43

trim falcon Jan 31, 2017, 5:52 AM

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and add some shia labeouf as a motivator

drowsy forum Jan 31, 2017, 5:56 AM

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Can't right now, bed time.

haughty flower Jan 31, 2017, 9:30 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/172869448863055872/275920266436018176/image.jpg
doom map concept
you start in the top left
find a shotgun in the next room, in which you enter a cave for a key
however there's holes with caco's
chaingun on said platform too
you get the key, go back and enter the key door, which is on the left
there's a small platform with 3 chaingunners
kill them, run through the hallway
another platform with a imp
etc
still gotta finish it tho

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forgive my sloppy drawing lol

trim falcon Jan 31, 2017, 10:15 AM

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ok do it

royal wave Feb 1, 2017, 9:03 AM

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I think part of my update to SkyMayBe, i make some skymaybe deathmatch maps

unreal oyster Feb 1, 2017, 6:53 PM

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📎 o2GWCW5.png

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so gzdoom just added this.

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doom 64 style lighting for sectors

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....

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it's beautiful

torn timber Feb 1, 2017, 7:04 PM

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Glorious

haughty flower Feb 1, 2017, 8:25 PM

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so preety much ps1 doom?

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me likey

vocal crypt Feb 1, 2017, 10:52 PM

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well apparently mobile couldn't see shit except the SSG in that pic

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and the hud

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so it looked like a dark room but not affecting the gun.

unreal oyster Feb 1, 2017, 10:53 PM

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oh, lol

prisma saddle Feb 1, 2017, 11:32 PM

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@unreal oyster what's it able to do?

unreal oyster Feb 1, 2017, 11:32 PM

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well, you can see in the image

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different lighting for floor, bottom wall, top wall and ceiling

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allows for really cool looking rooms

prisma saddle Feb 1, 2017, 11:33 PM

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I need to notify Wadaholic about this now...

vocal crypt Feb 1, 2017, 11:35 PM

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how did N64+PSX lighting system for doom work even

royal wave Feb 1, 2017, 11:35 PM

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what about middle wall

unreal oyster Feb 1, 2017, 11:36 PM

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not there

vocal crypt Feb 1, 2017, 11:37 PM

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then it's worthless /s

haughty flower Feb 1, 2017, 11:39 PM

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@vocal crypt its works nothing like the saturn

vocal crypt Feb 1, 2017, 11:40 PM

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I don't know the saturn port of Doom so

haughty flower Feb 1, 2017, 11:40 PM

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thats all i can tell you

vocal crypt Feb 1, 2017, 11:40 PM

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why, is the saturn lighting system shitty?

haughty flower Feb 1, 2017, 11:40 PM

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because it isnt in the specs

vocal crypt Feb 1, 2017, 11:40 PM

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um

haughty flower Feb 1, 2017, 11:40 PM

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saturn cant do colored lighting

vocal crypt Feb 1, 2017, 11:40 PM

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oh

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what about PC? Before source ports of course

haughty flower Feb 1, 2017, 11:41 PM

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it also cant do transparencies on the secondary video processor

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the 2 video chips are strung together to the same memory catche

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therefore they cant run symostaneously

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@vocal crypt It can, but it was never used

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look at freedoom

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that has it

vocal crypt Feb 1, 2017, 11:43 PM

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mmm

vocal crypt Feb 2, 2017, 12:49 AM

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I've tried to edit a weapon from Realm667 (don't worry, won't be in DoomStrike) to have a reloading thing.

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However, it seems to have infinite ammo

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going from 300 to 299 then back to 300

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the code

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Oh that's weird.

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a new color

vocal crypt Feb 2, 2017, 2:04 AM

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ACTOR Machinegun : Weapon 601
{ 
  //$Category Weapons
  //$Sprite MCGNW0
  //$Title "Light Machinegun"
    Weapon.Kickback 5
    Weapon.AmmoType "MachineGunAmmo" 
    Weapon.AmmoGive 50
    Weapon.AmmoUse 1    
    Weapon.SlotNumber 4
    Inventory.PickupSound "misc/w_pkup" 
    Inventory.PickupMessage "Picked up a Light Machinegun!"
    Obituary "%o was Lit up by %k's Machinegun."
    AttackSound "weapons/Machinegun"
     Decal BulletChip
    States 
    {  
    Ready: 
        MCGN A 1 A_WeaponReady 
        Loop 
    Deselect: 
        MCGN A 1 A_Lower 
        Loop 
    Select: 
        MCGN A 1 A_Raise 
        Loop 
    Fire: 
        MCGN A 1 A_GunFlash
        MCGN A 0 A_JumpIfInventory ("MachineGunLoaded", 30, "reload")
        MCGN A 4 A_GiveInventory ("MachineGunLoaded",1)
        MCGN B 1 A_FireBullets(3, 4, 1, 5, "BulletPuff", 1)
        MCGN B 1 A_Quake (1,3,0,32)
        MCGN C 1 
                TNT1 A 0 A_Refire
        goto Ready
        Reload:
          PISG A 1 Offset(0,35) A_PlaySound("weapons/shotgr", CHAN_WEAPON)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,38)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,44)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,52)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,62)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,72)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,82)
  TNT1 A 0 A_GiveInventory("MachineGunLoaded", 12)
  TNT1 A 8 A_TakeInventory("MachineGunAmmo", 1)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,82)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,72)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,62)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,52)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,44)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,38)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,35)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,32)
        goto Ready
        Flash:
        MCGN A 1 Bright
        MCGN B 1 Bright A_Light1
                 Goto LightDone
    Spawn:
        MCGN W -1
        Stop
        }
    } 

actor MachineGunAmmo : Ammo
{
inventory.amount 10
inventory.maxamount 200
ammo.backpackamount 25
ammo.backpackmaxamount 300
inventory.pickupmessage "You got ammo for the LMG!"
states
{
Spawn:
AMMO A -1
Stop
}
}

actor MachineGunLoaded : MachineGunAmmo
{
inventory.maxamount 60
+IGNORESKILL
}```

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this was the code

trim falcon Feb 2, 2017, 7:24 AM

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what this

haughty flower Feb 2, 2017, 7:38 AM

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@vocal crypt found the error

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actually, nevermind

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MCGN A 0 A_JumpIfInventory ("MachineGunLoaded", 30, "reload")

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???

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i need some help, because, i have no experience with using sounds

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how do i make a WAV pistol fire actually have a use?

hazy lantern Feb 2, 2017, 7:42 AM

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I think modders are still asleep

haughty flower Feb 2, 2017, 7:43 AM

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i just want it so my pistol uses a WAV fire sound

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dunno how to in decorate

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also, i need a dank pistol fire sound

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how so?

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i mean i did like the handgun sound from half life 2 honestly

torn timber Feb 2, 2017, 8:09 AM

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sounds are defined in SNDINFO first

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You can use A_PlaySound to play a specific sound in a specific spot in your DECORATE

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Ex: A_PlaySound("play/sound")
Where "play/sound" is the logical name for the sound defined in sound info as such: play/sound dsplysnd

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dsplysnd would be the name of the lump

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so in your case, @haughty flower

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SNDINFO: weapons/pistolfire pistfir0
DECORATE: A_PlaySound("weapons/pistolfire")

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it might look something like that

haughty flower Feb 2, 2017, 8:54 AM

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thanks 😄

haughty flower Feb 2, 2017, 1:19 PM

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okay i got the camera working

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how do i add music in musinfo?

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 4:00 PM

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You should use MapInfo for music

haughty flower Feb 2, 2017, 4:05 PM

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k

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i already did it tho

keen drift Feb 2, 2017, 4:26 PM

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Just came up with the worst idea possible for a wad:

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A megawad but every single level follows the basic shape of a loss edit

haughty flower Feb 2, 2017, 4:28 PM

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what

keen drift Feb 2, 2017, 4:30 PM

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http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/960/353/738.png

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http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cadbortion-loss-edits

Know Your Meme

CADbortion / Loss Edits

CADbortion (also known as Loss Edits) refers to a series of parodies based on an overly dramatic cartoon strip from the popular webcomic Ctrl+Alt+Del in which the female lead suffers a miscarriage, which became a subject of widespread mockery among the readers.

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And an expiation of the meme

granite marsh Feb 2, 2017, 5:17 PM

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@unreal oyster about the GZDoom features...

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How do you add them to a WAD?

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GZDoom Builder seems outdated.

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Is there some other way?

haughty flower Feb 2, 2017, 5:19 PM

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have you tried this? https://devbuilds.drdteam.org/gzdbbf/

granite marsh Feb 2, 2017, 5:20 PM

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I just said it looks outdated.

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I think Doom Builder has updated much past GZDoom Builder.

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I might be wrong, though.

haughty flower Feb 2, 2017, 5:21 PM

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seems and looks are two different things

granite marsh Feb 2, 2017, 5:21 PM

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Good point.

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 5:21 PM

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doom builder 2 has been abandoned for multiple years

granite marsh Feb 2, 2017, 5:21 PM

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Wait, really?

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 5:21 PM

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yes

haughty flower Feb 2, 2017, 5:22 PM

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im using doom builder 2 for some training with it

granite marsh Feb 2, 2017, 5:22 PM

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So GZDoom Builder is actually the most updated version?

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 5:22 PM

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no

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gzdoom builder-bugfix is

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that link that scary posted

haughty flower Feb 2, 2017, 5:22 PM

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after i were to get a custom to it ill move on to gzdoom builder

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 5:22 PM

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why? there's no reason to do that

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they are practically identical in UI

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gzdb just supports more

haughty flower Feb 2, 2017, 5:23 PM

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it has to do something with invasion

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idk why but it does

granite marsh Feb 2, 2017, 5:24 PM

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I guess I'll move to GZDoom Builder.

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Should I uninstall Doom Builder, though?

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 5:24 PM

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meh

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up to you

haughty flower Feb 2, 2017, 5:26 PM

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its not that big to even bother

granite marsh Feb 2, 2017, 5:40 PM

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What the fuck?

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You know how in the GZDoom thing type selector, sometimes a link shows up under the "Object Class" catagorie?

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It shows up in Firefox, even though my defualt browser is Chrome.

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Help?

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 5:41 PM

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opens in ie for me even though my default browser is chrome too

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i'll bug report it

granite marsh Feb 2, 2017, 5:42 PM

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k thanks

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 5:46 PM

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https://github.com/jewalky/GZDoom-Builder-Bugfix/issues/27

GitHub

Clickable actor name in thing picker doesn't use default browser...

Somebody noticed this in a Discord chat I'm in, and I thought I may as well report it - the clickable actor link to the ZDoom forums doesn't open in the correct browser, for example I use Chrome bu...

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@granite marsh

granite marsh Feb 2, 2017, 5:48 PM

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thanks

granite marsh Feb 2, 2017, 6:26 PM

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Hey, does anyone know how to do rain in GZDoom?

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I downloaded a rain spawner from Realm 667, but I can't seem to get it to work.

royal wave Feb 2, 2017, 6:26 PM

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Dunno

granite marsh Feb 2, 2017, 6:40 PM

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Okay, supposedly, the thing I'm trying to do requires me to change stuff in something called a "special" tab.

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But the thing menu doesn't have a special tab.

shadow bone Feb 2, 2017, 6:59 PM

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If you right-click on the rain spawner after placing it on the map, what do you see?

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 7:33 PM

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Class SHImp : DoomImp {
    float tickOrNot;
    override void Tick() {
        ThinkerIterator playerIterator = ThinkerIterator.Create("DoomPlayer");
        actor mo;
        mo = DoomPlayer(playerIterator.Next());
        tickOrNot += mo.vel.Length();
        while (True) {
            if (tickOrNot < 12) {
                break;
            }
            else {
                tickOrNot -= 12;
                Super.Tick();
            }
        }
    }
}

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inspired by that proof-of-concept in #general , i took a stab at a ZScript superhot mod

royal wave Feb 2, 2017, 7:33 PM

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zscript does floats

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 7:33 PM

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far more dynamic than anything decorate could do - although it should be noted that this only accounts for player movement

royal wave Feb 2, 2017, 7:33 PM

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zscript does floats

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 7:33 PM

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yea

royal wave Feb 2, 2017, 7:34 PM

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WOO

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 7:34 PM

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it also does doubles

river flame Feb 2, 2017, 7:34 PM

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~~programming looks really hard...~~

royal wave Feb 2, 2017, 7:34 PM

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Actually why has no one done a proper engine remake of the doom engine that supports proper data types

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 7:34 PM

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the whole fixed crap is ACS, not the engine

royal wave Feb 2, 2017, 7:34 PM

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Ah

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 7:35 PM

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you can thank raven software for that one

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internally gzdoom uses all manner of C++ concepts

royal wave Feb 2, 2017, 7:35 PM

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So then why are we not making a better ACS instead of flat out expanding on it

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 7:35 PM

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because ZScript is replacing ACS

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gdcc-acc is an alternative compiler for acs and i think it has a float type

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doesn't play that nice with a lot of things though

royal wave Feb 2, 2017, 7:38 PM

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but zscript only works like decorate

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 7:39 PM

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right now, yes

shadow bone Feb 2, 2017, 7:40 PM

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ACS is an ancient holdover from Hexen. It's been on the chopping block for years.

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 7:41 PM

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yeah. ZScript will get map data access in a while and it will likely then replace ACS

shadow bone Feb 2, 2017, 7:41 PM

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ZScript (formerly Doomscript) has been slated to replace it since about 2006 I think.

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Randi just never really pushed it.

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 7:41 PM

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example of what ZScript will be able to do that ACS could never hope to - dynamic slope adjustments

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or so i've heard

shadow bone Feb 2, 2017, 7:41 PM

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Which it can almost already do

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https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=53850&p=970377#p970377

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As of Jan 14th the main limitation is OpenGL structures not updating: https://images.discordapp.net/.eJwFwcENwyAMAMBdGABsQgHn3Q06AEIEQaQkjsB5Vd29d1_1jEOtqovcczVm22fhsekpPHKrujG3o-Z7n7rwabJILv2sl0yDRB4ihQjoIHiy0VhPBAvZgN6-fAzozKeMWq_ZWdKb-UwWMACiSxYBF9D31dTvD6FiKWo.bwAh1Al06TdUpGf1kcoL8b3DJ1c

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TL;DR: ZScript is God.

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Oh wow, it's even older than I thought

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https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=43&p=49#p49

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20 July 1999

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"DoomScript is a full-fledged object-oriented scripting language and represents a radically different approach to Doom editing."

prisma saddle Feb 2, 2017, 8:22 PM

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Can Zscript and Decorate be used simultaneously?

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 8:22 PM

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yep

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DECORATE has to inherit from ZScript though

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other way round can't work

royal wave Feb 2, 2017, 8:26 PM

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Wondering if Zscript will fix my chaingunner blobs

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 8:26 PM

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chaingunner blobs? lol?

royal wave Feb 2, 2017, 8:27 PM

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so sky may be, spectors (iirc) are replaced to fire chaingunner blobs

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basically plasma bolts that attack like the spider mastermind at the player

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I forget how I got it to work, but it's not very clean nor is it as straight forward as I like

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can't just tell the plasma ball to just attack, because projectiles always have their target set to the actor that spawned them

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does zandronum support zscript?

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 8:29 PM

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nah

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might be ages before that happens

royal wave Feb 2, 2017, 8:30 PM

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Fuck

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I guess if i want everyone to play it for the weekly event, it's gonna have to be zscript free :P

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ah here we go

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{
    Damage 0
    +RANDOMIZE
    RenderStyle Add
    Alpha 0.75
    Speed 5
    SeeSound "weapons/plasmaf"
    DeathSound "weapons/plasmax"
    Obituary "$OB_MPPLASMARIFLE"
    States
    {
    Spawn:
        PLSS A 0 A_PlaySound("weapons/plasmaf")
        goto Missile
    See:
        goto Death
    Missile:
        PLSS A 4 BRIGHT A_CPosAttack
        Loop
    Death:
        PLSE ABCDE 4 Bright
        Stop
    Idle:
        goto Missile
    }
}```

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and the trick was to spawn them like lost souls

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        SARG EF 4 Fast A_FaceTarget
        SARG G 4 Fast A_PainAttack("chaingunBlobs", 0)
        Goto Missile```

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which does automatically set the player as the target

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 9:32 PM

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https://vid.me/f7Z6

Vid.me

2017-02-02 21-22-34

▶ Play video

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zscript left-right dodging AI, á la Unreal

prisma saddle Feb 2, 2017, 9:35 PM

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That's so cool @unreal oyster

haughty flower Feb 2, 2017, 9:39 PM

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they are also bulletsponges just like unreal

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 9:39 PM

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hah

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i made them bulletspongey just so i could see if the effect worked lol

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i wouldn't actually give an imp that much hp

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thank you @prisma saddle

haughty flower Feb 2, 2017, 9:40 PM

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no vidme account?

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 9:41 PM

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nah

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i only use it for uploading random doom shit

haughty flower Feb 2, 2017, 9:41 PM

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well you just got a comment

vocal crypt Feb 2, 2017, 9:49 PM

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Unreal Doon

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Doom

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I had one fucking job

shadow bone Feb 2, 2017, 9:52 PM

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you can edit your posts you know. like this

vocal crypt Feb 2, 2017, 9:53 PM

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I don't care. Besides, it makes it obvious I made a mistake

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And I'm on mobile

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Rn

haughty flower Feb 2, 2017, 9:54 PM

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are you on the beta of discord mobile?

vocal crypt Feb 2, 2017, 9:54 PM

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Idk

unreal oyster Feb 2, 2017, 9:54 PM

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you can edit messages on mobile too lol

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long tap

vocal crypt Feb 2, 2017, 9:55 PM

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You mean hold down.

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But anyway

vocal crypt Feb 2, 2017, 11:34 PM

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still need help with that reloading thing

vocal crypt Feb 2, 2017, 11:55 PM

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{ 
  //$Category Weapons
  //$Sprite MCGNW0
  //$Title "Light Machinegun"
    Weapon.Kickback 5
    Weapon.AmmoType "MachineGunAmmo" 
    Weapon.AmmoGive 50
    Weapon.AmmoUse 1    
    Weapon.SlotNumber 4
    Inventory.PickupSound "misc/w_pkup" 
    Inventory.PickupMessage "Picked up a Light Machinegun!"
    Obituary "%o was Lit up by %k's Machinegun."
    AttackSound "weapons/Machinegun"
     Decal BulletChip
    States 
    {  
    Ready: 
        MCGN A 1 A_WeaponReady 
        Loop 
    Deselect: 
        MCGN A 1 A_Lower 
        Loop 
    Select: 
        MCGN A 1 A_Raise 
        Loop 
    Fire: 
        MCGN A 1 A_GunFlash
        MCGN A 0 A_JumpIfInventory ("MachineGunLoaded", 30, "reload")
        MCGN A 4 A_GiveInventory ("MachineGunLoaded",1)
        MCGN B 1 A_FireBullets(3, 4, 1, 5, "BulletPuff", 1)
        MCGN B 1 A_Quake (1,3,0,32)
        MCGN C 1 
                TNT1 A 0 A_Refire
        goto Ready
        Reload:
          PISG A 1 Offset(0,35) A_PlaySound("weapons/shotgr", CHAN_WEAPON)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,38)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,44)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,52)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,62)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,72)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,82)
  TNT1 A 0 A_GiveInventory("MachineGunLoaded", 12)
  TNT1 A 8 A_TakeInventory("MachineGunAmmo", 1)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,82)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,72)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,62)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,52)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,44)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,38)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,35)
  PISG A 1 Offset(0,32)
        goto Ready
        Flash:
        MCGN A 1 Bright
        MCGN B 1 Bright A_Light1
                 Goto LightDone
    Spawn:
        MCGN W -1
        Stop
        }
    } 

actor MachineGunAmmo : Ammo
{
inventory.amount 10
inventory.maxamount 200
ammo.backpackamount 25
ammo.backpackmaxamount 300
inventory.pickupmessage "You got ammo for the LMG!"
states
{
Spawn:
AMMO A -1
Stop
}
}

actor MachineGunLoaded : MachineGunAmmo
{
inventory.maxamount 60
+IGNORESKILL
}```

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someone help with the reload thing

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mostly because it doesn't "reload" at all

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just shoots infinite ammo.

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@shadow bone can ya help me on deis.

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 12:57 AM

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Shouldn't MCGN A 0 A_JumpIfInventory ("MachineGunLoaded", 30, "reload") go before MCGN A 1 A_GunFlash?

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Cause you don't want your weapon lighting up if it's not actually going to fire anything anyway

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you could also put MCGN A 0 A_JumpIfInventory ("MachineGunLoaded", 30, "reload") as the first line on the Ready state, before MCGN A 1 A_WeaponReady if you want it to reload when the weapon is empty and idle as well.

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If the max loaded ammo is supposed to be 30, shouldn't the inventory.maxamount match that in the actor definition of that token?

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you have it as 60

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You shouldn't need +IGNORESKILL on the loaded token either, it's not actually going to be picked up by anyone

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Your MachineGunLoaded numbers don't match up anywhere

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  TNT1 A 8 A_TakeInventory("MachineGunAmmo", 1)```

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this bit in Reload should probably change

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You should be -taking- the MachineGunLoaded tokens

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not giving more of what you already have

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it should be taking 30

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if 30 is the max loaded ammo you want it to have

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that'll clear it all away

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The name is actually a misnomer

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so that may be causing some confusion there too

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You may need to invert that naming convention and reorder your checks to make it work properly

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:11 AM

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I wanted the playa to have 60 ammo on a "clip"

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er

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but whatever

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lets try 30.

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:12 AM

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you can do it with 60 as long as the numbers match up

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:13 AM

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also, so you're saying I should switch the Give and Take Inventory "places"?

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:14 AM

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If you want the reload to grab the correct amount of ammo anyway, you'll have to have a loop that checks for each empty ammo token in your inventory currently, and then replace them individualy with 1 MachineGunAmmo you possess at a time. The loop should be instant, and it'll prevent you from getting ghost ammo and other strange numbers.

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I'll find an example from on of my wads in a moment

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:20 AM

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@torn timber ?

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:22 AM

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I'm just slicing out the 90% of stuff you won't really need to see

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:22 AM

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must be NSFL.

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jk

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:23 AM

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it'd just be complicated to look at

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lots of other features added in

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I think I got everything together

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hoping this weapon didn't have any bugs in it, cause I haven't worked on this in over a year, but it was pretty basic compared to the rest of my stuff, so it should be good

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http://pastebin.com/kv6FzQwB

Pastebin

Example Reload Code - Pastebin.com

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:31 AM

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readyloop?

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:31 AM

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It's an extension of our Ready state

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it's a custom one

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because we have our Ready state do things that the weapon only needs to do once

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and then it moves on to the readyloop state

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our ready state does things like clears tokens

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:31 AM

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is the M60 from Realm667

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:31 AM

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no

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:31 AM

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just that this code-

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oh.

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:31 AM

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this is all custom

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:32 AM

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it's great and all, buuuut it looks too advanced for me....

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dryfire?

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:34 AM

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The flow is pretty much this:
Reload: check for reserve ammo
ReloadAnimation: animate the reload (it doesn't matter how much ammo you have in reserve, it's going to animate anyway
ReloadAmmo: Actually reload the ammo by giving the loaded token (This is the opposite of your current method) and then take 1 of the reserve ammo type, then check if the gun is fully loaded, if yes, end reload; if yes, loop the Reload Ammo state until the gun is full, or runs out of reserve ammo

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:35 AM

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whats with the a762m in the reload state

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:35 AM

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Dryfire means you're trying to fire your gun with no ammo, and it's not going to do any reloading because you don't have any reserve ammo anyway

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a762mm is the ammo actor

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7.62 Millimeter

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M60s use 7.62 mm ammunition

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:36 AM

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oh

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:36 AM

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the 'a' is there because you can't start an actor name with a number

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thus shorthand for 'ammo'

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The complete code for this weapon is actually 279 lines long

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:38 AM

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Unfortunately I think I need something more simple or something

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:38 AM

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My more complicated weapons that have like alternate ammo types, firing modes, melee functionality and other such things run over 600 lines easily, so I think that was probably the easier one to look at and tear apart.

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The most important part of all of that is the ReloadEnd state, cause that's where it actually handles the main part of the reload

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err

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the ReloadAmmo state

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not end

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:42 AM

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still seems too complex.

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:42 AM

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it's those 5 lines

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ReloadAnimation and ReloadEnd are cosmetic

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:43 AM

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since Im doing a halfass, I'd probably want it to just go down and "reload"

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:43 AM

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no actual sprite animation is needed for the actual reload

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:43 AM

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which is the offsite thing

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:43 AM

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yeah, that part doesn't matter

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reloading is just inventory token management

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If your gun is idle, check for ammo, if no ammo, reload.
If you fire your gun and you have no ammo at all, the gun should not fire or reload.
If you fire your gun and you expend ammo, check to see if there is any loaded ammo remaining, if yes, start a reload before going idle or attempting to fire another shot.
If you have reserve ammo, reload the gun, otherwise idle.
If you have reserve ammo, start replacing the empty ammo.
If your gun is full or runs out of reserve ammo, finish reloading.

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That's the condensed process I suppose

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:49 AM

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I think the reason I think it's complex is because of the cosmetic stuff

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(that grammar makes sense)

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:49 AM

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just ignore/remove those 2 states when you look at it then

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:49 AM

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ReloadAnimation and ReloadEnd then

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:49 AM

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yes

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they don't do anything other than really play sounds and have a_weaponready states so you can interrupt the reload by switching weapons

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:51 AM

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actor LoadedM60 : Ammo {
    inventory.amount 0
    inventory.maxamount 100
    ammo.backpackamount 0
    ammo.backpackmaxamount 100
    States {
        Spawn:
            BLIT A -1
            Stop
    }``` the 100 part seems confusing

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is that the amount of ammo in total

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or is that the ammo in the "clip"?

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:52 AM

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that's how much ammo can actually be loaded into the m60

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no more than that

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:52 AM

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so ammo total

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combined with the clips

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and all of that

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:52 AM

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yes, but this system works by taking away that token from the total instead of giving it like yours does

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no

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that's only what's loaded in the gun currently

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hence "Loaded"M60

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:52 AM

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oh

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 1:52 AM

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you start with 100

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fire a bullet

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then you have 99 left

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hit 0, reload

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This is how your code would translate for the ReloadAnimation and ReloadEnd states in mine:

    PISG A 1 Offset(0,35) A_PlaySound("weapons/shotgr", CHAN_WEAPON)
    PISG A 1 Offset(0,38)
    PISG A 1 Offset(0,44)
    PISG A 1 Offset(0,52)
    PISG A 1 Offset(0,62)
    PISG A 1 Offset(0,72)
    PISG A 1 Offset(0,82)

ReloadEnd:
    PISG A 1 Offset(0,82)
    PISG A 1 Offset(0,72)
    PISG A 1 Offset(0,62)
    PISG A 1 Offset(0,52)
    PISG A 1 Offset(0,44)
    PISG A 1 Offset(0,38)
    PISG A 1 Offset(0,35)
    PISG A 1 Offset(0,32)
    goto Ready```

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it just separates the reload into sections that are meant to do one main thing

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This would be the ReloadAmmo state translated:

    TNT1 A 0 A_GiveInventory("MachineGunLoaded",1)
    TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("MachineGunAmmo",1)
    TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("MachineGunLoaded",60,"ReloadEnd")
    TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("MachineGunAmmo",1,"ReloadAmmo")
    goto ReloadEnd```

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 1:56 AM

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well I solved it using infinite ammo

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but it won't even reload

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so

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gonna work on dat

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also, summarize what is wrong with the reload system I got?

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bloody hell this is complex shit or somethin

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well I tried the dryfire thing

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it froze GZDoom

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I guess it's some paradox or something

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screw it.

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too hard.

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 2:27 AM

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Dryfire just plays a sound and then returns to the Ready states

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it's pretty much a skip for the Fire state

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would you do better with this making a flowchart?

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 2:28 AM

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maybe

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And if it's more simpler, using a Doom vanilla weapon?

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I'm guessing what reload system I want is too complex for the Doom Engine

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which is x amount of bullets in y clip, reloading removes y clip and loads another one from z amount of clips

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so like 30/3

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30 bullets in 1 clip.

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er

sleek onyx Feb 3, 2017, 2:33 AM

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So, you want realistic clips?

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 2:34 AM

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I guess.

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which I guess the Doom Engine can't do

sleek onyx Feb 3, 2017, 2:36 AM

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How about keeping the ammo amount in clips in arbitrary arrays? I don't know much, but I can at least try come up with something.

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 2:36 AM

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um what?

sleek onyx Feb 3, 2017, 2:37 AM

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Like having an array of say 10 values and somehow treating those as clips

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 2:37 AM

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you can't use Arrays in DECORATE, no real need to use ACS, don't know about ZScript and arrays

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 2:38 AM

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Using DECORATE and not considering using ZScript until SLADE "officially" supports it and stuff

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or atleast, until it gets some wiki like the ZDoom wiki

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er

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but anyway

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is the reload system I said possible Mine?

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 2:42 AM

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Just call me Min, and ZDoom does allow you to bind a reload key

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you could have A_WeaponReady jump to the reload state when you press that

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with the flag WRF_ALLOWRELOAD

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you could at least use that to make a manual reload without really having to add anything extra to the ready state

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then for the Fire state, just have it check to see if it needs to reload before you fire another bullet

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you could simplify your reload state

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 2:45 AM

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so a_jumpifnoammo or something?

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or would it be a_jumpifinventory

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 2:45 AM

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but keep in mind, if you're not checking ammo and replacing it right, you'll get odd numbers and things like 'ghost bullets', getting ammo when you should not have

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A_JumpIfNoAmmo only checks for the Primary Ammo being empty

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 2:46 AM

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so a_jumpifinventory

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 2:46 AM

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it depends on whatever your primary ammo is, I'm guess it's MachineGunAmmo

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so the thing you want to be checking to see if it's empty is the loaded ammo

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or rather in your code you posted earlier, full

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 2:48 AM

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so the ammo would be inventorytype?

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or rather

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something like this

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A_JumpIfInventory(MachineGunAmmo,intnum,statetojumpto)

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 2:49 AM

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You're checking MachineGunLoaded as that represents what is currently loaded in the gun (or rather how many empty spaces there are)

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MachineGunAmmo is your reserve ammo

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it has nothing to do with what is already in the gun

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your gun should not be using that as an ammo type at all actually

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well

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for your system it would

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 2:50 AM

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what should it use then

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 2:50 AM

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the problem is this

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instead of having actual reserve ammo,

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you're firing your gun using your regular old ammo

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and you're keeping track of when it needs to reload by a token

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really I guess all you have to do is manage that reload token then

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whenever you hit the reload state, just reset the reload token "MachineGunLoaded" from whatever it is, back to 0

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I'm getting confused between 2 systems that operate opposite of each other

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 2:52 AM

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what 2 "systems"

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 2:56 AM

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The system you use where you fire "ammo" that is not actually linked to how many bullets a weapon has in it and an inventory item that represents "when this gun needs to reload" vs a system where you fire "loaded ammo" and then transfer "ammo" that replenishes "loaded ammo"

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 2:56 AM

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so the second system is basically firing loaded ammo, but when empty, transfers xammo to replenish the loaded ammo

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 2:56 AM

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yes

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that was my code

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I'm getting to that point where I'm just tired and can't adequately explain this stuff

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 2:57 AM

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getting tired as well, tho I'm listenin to ASMR

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 2:57 AM

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same

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 2:58 AM

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does your system allow "realistic" reloading

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which is xbullets / xclips

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whatever

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 2:58 AM

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A friend and I have another even more complex system for that

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the code I used here simply makes sure you never load more than you gun can hold, and that you never load more than you have

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it does this so it can actually display just how much Loaded Ammo and Reserve Ammo you have using SBARINFO

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:00 AM

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well it seems I need to use that system instead

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:00 AM

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with the method where you're just adding to your MachineGunLoaded token, you can't actually display how much Loaded ammo you have left before you have to reload

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it's going in reverse

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it would say 0 when fully loaded

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and then 1 when you fire a bullet

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and 60 when the gun is empty

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it's a bit backwards

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:01 AM

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so I'm switching to your system then

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:01 AM

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just start small, make it work first

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:03 AM

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sigh

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what do you mean

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:12 AM

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it means make it do one crucial step at a time until you can make a template that works for you

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like actually getting the thing to do the reload animation first

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:12 AM

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though it's just a half-ass

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which is basically moving the gun out of "frame"

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and moving back when it's "reloaded"

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:13 AM

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that's not what I mean

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:13 AM

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oh

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:13 AM

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you said you couldn't even get it reload at all yet, right?

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:13 AM

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right, first it was infinite ammo, then it fired like a normal gun.

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er rather

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the problem was it was infinite ammo

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then the problem transitioned into it just firing like a normal doom gun

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:15 AM

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firing like the pistol? 1 slow bullet at a time?

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:15 AM

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by normal doom gun I mean shooting non-stop like a chaingun with no reload

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:16 AM

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alright

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:16 AM

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unlike, say COD

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:16 AM

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I believe that had to do with the way it was handling the MachineGunLoaded token

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you had it keep giving, instead of taking away, remember?

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the fire state added to the token, and then the reload also added to the token

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it never actually took away the token anywhere

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thus your system would be broken

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it could never cycle back

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:20 AM

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I guess so

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Well now I got it to reload manually

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but it's a endless reload thing till it runs outta ammo if I keep pressing the reload key

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:26 AM

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your reload needs to check to see if the gun is full before actually doing the reload

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if the gun is full, end the reload

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or

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if you're out of ammo to load, end the reload

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:27 AM

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        MCGN A 1 A_GunFlash
        MCGN B 1 A_FireBullets(3, 4, 1, 5, "BulletPuff", 1)
        MCGN B 1 A_Quake (1,3,0,32)
        MCGN A 0 A_JumpIfInventory ("MachineGunAmmo", 0, "reload")
        MCGN C 1 
                TNT1 A 0 A_Refire
        goto Ready
        Reload:
          MCGN A 1 Offset(0,35) A_PlaySound("weapons/shotgr", CHAN_WEAPON)
  MCGN A 1 Offset(0,38)
  MCGN A 1 Offset(0,44)
  MCGN A 1 Offset(0,52)
  MCGN A 1 Offset(0,62)
  MCGN A 1 Offset(0,72)
  MCGN A 1 Offset(0,82)
  TNT1 A 0 A_GiveInventory("MachineGunLoaded", 1)
  TNT1 A 8 A_TakeInventory("MachineGunAmmo", 30)
  MCGN A 1 Offset(0,82)
  MCGN A 1 Offset(0,72)
  MCGN A 1 Offset(0,62)
  MCGN A 1 Offset(0,52)
  MCGN A 1 Offset(0,44)
  MCGN A 1 Offset(0,38)
  MCGN A 1 Offset(0,35)
  MCGN A 1 Offset(0,32)
        goto Ready```

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:28 AM

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MCGN A 0 A_JumpIfInventory ("MachineGunAmmo", 0, "reload")

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this is the problem

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which system are you trying to use now,

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:29 AM

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since you told to move on till I find a template, the broken one

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or rather, do it one step at a time

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:29 AM

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if you're using your old system

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where firing the weapon adds to "MachineGunLoaded"

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which I also don't see happening anymore

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then the inventory check should be checking for "MachineGunLoaded" being maxed out

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"MachineGunAmmo" is your basic ammo, the one you normally pick up right?

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:30 AM

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yes

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:31 AM

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trying to check for 0, which means check for max of this inventory, means you're checking to see if you have the maxed out "MachineGunAmmo" count, which wouldn't be possible since you're using the ammo to fire the weapon

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:34 AM

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at this point I'm thinking of using your system

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since this "old" one is broken af

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Min?

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:37 AM

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    TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("MachineGunLoaded",60,"Reload")
    MCGN A 1 A_GunFlash
    TNT1 A 0 A_GiveInventory("MachineGunLoaded",1)
    MCGN B 1 A_FireBullets(3,4,1,5,"BulletPuff",1)
    MCGN B 1 A_Quake(1,3,0,32)
    MCGN C 1 
    TNT1 A 0 A_Refire
    goto Ready
Reload:
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,35) A_PlaySound("weapons/shotgr",CHAN_WEAPON)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,38)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,44)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,52)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,62)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,72)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,82)
    TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("MachineGunLoaded",60)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,82)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,72)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,62)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,52)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,44)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,38)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,35)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,32)
    goto Ready```

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Try that, it's modified from your old code

#

I also removed where it tries to take "MachineGunAmmo" in the Reload state

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because it doesn't need to

#

you were trying to do a magazine system when it doesn't use magazine style reloading technically

#

MachineGunLoaded should work properly here, it's just like a timer for when the gun should play that reload animation and then it resets that timer within the middle of the Reload

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no actual ammo gets transfered anywhere

#

the ammo should stay right where it is in your inventory

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the gun now should just not allow you to fire until you've done a reload

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:39 AM

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Infinite ammo

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:39 AM

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this gives you the infinite ammo issue?

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:39 AM

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yeah

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:40 AM

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is it not using ammo,

#

or is it still firing when it hits 0?

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:40 AM

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It's 300

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Then stays at 299 when fired

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:40 AM

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and it stays on 299?

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:40 AM

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yeah

#

still fires and works though.

#

or rather

#

works as in it kills demons

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Min?

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:42 AM

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every time A_FireBullets is called, it should be using a bullet by default

#

What are the flags on this weapon?

#

in the properties

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:43 AM

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ah shit, where would the flags be.

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um

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:44 AM

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at the top

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where all the actor properties are

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:44 AM

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so before the states

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:44 AM

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yes

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:44 AM

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oh ok

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    Weapon.AmmoType "MachineGunAmmo" 
    Weapon.AmmoGive 50
    Weapon.AmmoUse 1    
    Weapon.SlotNumber 4
    Inventory.PickupSound "misc/w_pkup" 
    Inventory.PickupMessage "Picked up a Light Machinegun!"
    Obituary "%o was Lit up by %k's Machinegun."
    AttackSound "weapons/Machinegun"
     Decal BulletChip```

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:44 AM

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are there no flags at all?

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:44 AM

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flags are somthing like +insertflaghere ?

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:45 AM

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things that would say like +MELEEWEAPON or +NOAUTOAIM

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yes

#

everything else you posted are properties

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:45 AM

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no flags then

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 3:46 AM

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can you pastebin all of the code, and I'll try running it on my end

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 3:47 AM

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I don't do pastebin

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ACTOR Machinegun : Weapon 601
{ 
  //$Category Weapons
  //$Sprite MCGNW0
  //$Title "Light Machinegun"
        Weapon.Kickback 5
        Weapon.AmmoType "MachineGunAmmo" 
        Weapon.AmmoGive 50
        Weapon.AmmoUse 1    
        Weapon.SlotNumber 4
        Inventory.PickupSound "misc/w_pkup" 
        Inventory.PickupMessage "Picked up a Light Machinegun!"
        Obituary "%o was Lit up by %k's Machinegun."
        AttackSound "weapons/Machinegun"
        Decal BulletChip
    States 
    {  
    Ready: 
        MCGN A 1 A_WeaponReady (WRF_ALLOWRELOAD) 
        Loop 
    Deselect: 
        MCGN A 1 A_Lower 
        Loop 
    Select: 
        MCGN A 1 A_Raise 
        Loop 
Fire:
    TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("MachineGunLoaded",60,"Reload")
    MCGN A 1 A_GunFlash
    TNT1 A 0 A_GiveInventory("MachineGunLoaded",1)
    MCGN B 1 A_FireBullets(3,4,1,5,"BulletPuff",1)
    MCGN B 1 A_Quake(1,3,0,32)
    MCGN C 1 
    TNT1 A 0 A_Refire
    goto Ready
Reload:
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,35) A_PlaySound("weapons/shotgr",CHAN_WEAPON)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,38)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,44)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,52)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,62)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,72)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,82)
    TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("MachineGunLoaded",60)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,82)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,72)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,62)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,52)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,44)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,38)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,35)
    MCGN A 1 Offset(0,32)
    goto Ready
        Flash:
        MCGN A 1 Bright
        MCGN B 1 Bright A_Light1
                 Goto LightDone
    Spawn:
        MCGN W -1
        Stop
        }
    } 

actor MachineGunAmmo : Ammo
{
inventory.amount 10
inventory.maxamount 200
ammo.backpackamount 25
inventory.icon AMMOA0
ammo.backpackmaxamount 300
inventory.pickupmessage "You got ammo for the LMG!"
states
{
Spawn:
AMMO A -1
Stop
}
}

actor MachineGunLoaded : MachineGunAmmo
{
inventory.maxamount 60
+IGNORESKILL
}```

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 4:36 AM

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OH DAMN IT

#

YOU KIDDING ME

#

Found the issue.

#

right at the very end there

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actor MachineGunLoaded : MachineGunAmmo

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--> MachineGunAmmo

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This needs to be "Inventory"

#

let me try this

#

well, it's part of the issue

#

I've gotten the gun to actually use ammo, and I can at least stop the gun from firing now when it hits 0 ammo

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alright

#

fixed

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@vocal crypt http://pastebin.com/GYJyE381

Pastebin

Machinegun DECORATE Fixed - Pastebin.com

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This should fix everything

#

note that this version is replacing the Doom Chaingun, did that for testing purposes

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you'll have to change the 1st line if you want it to have an ID

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 4:47 AM

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Alright

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 4:47 AM

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and y'know, not replace the chaingun

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 10:13 PM

#

Minesae your thing works. Although it seems no actual "reloading" takes place.

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 10:27 PM

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That's because your system was never designed to do that

#

all it does it resets the counter that tells it when to do the reload action

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 10:28 PM

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Oh, it was D3D style reloading

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 10:28 PM

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essentially

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just like the pistol

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 10:29 PM

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although why did you replace the sprites with the Chaingun ones?

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 10:30 PM

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oh right, forgot to change that back

#

I can't test it with sprites I don't have, obviously 😛

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 10:32 PM

#

oh

#

well, you could, but it'd be invisible

#

so we have "pseuedo-reload" D3D style reloading

#

how about we get to... not-so-pseudo-reload style?

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 10:38 PM

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You'd have to use my other code then

#

and learn how that system works

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 10:38 PM

#

k

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is the ReloadAnimation part just for better organization?

#

in the code you "gave" me

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 11:01 PM

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It serves as both a state that plays sound and animation and allows weapon switch interrupts as well as offers a place to jump to for the check if you have reserver ammo

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 11:02 PM

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is a762m the "clip" or the ammo in said clip?

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sorry for pissing off gun enthusiasts by calling it a clip

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 11:04 PM

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it's the reserve ammo that has nothing to with what is loaded in the gun

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 11:04 PM

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so in this case, it'd be MachineGunAmmo?

torn timber Feb 3, 2017, 11:04 PM

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it's what you pick up and what is pulled from in order to load the gun

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yes

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 11:05 PM

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Will my half-ass "moving gun down then up" reload animation work for ReloadAnimation?

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since it's using the offset "command"

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TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("loadedM60",100,"ReloadEnd")

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does that take 100 bullets away or something?

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Min?

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@torn timber ? sorry for pinging you

unreal oyster Feb 3, 2017, 11:17 PM

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no, that jumps to "ReloadEnd" if the player has 100 "loadedM60"s

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 11:31 PM

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Sprite names must be exactly 4 characters```

unreal oyster Feb 3, 2017, 11:32 PM

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post line 22 please

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 11:32 PM

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MCGN A 1 A_WeaponReady (WRF_ALLOWRELOAD)(WRF_NOBOB)

unreal oyster Feb 3, 2017, 11:33 PM

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uhm, it looks like it should be fine but

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    MCGN A 1 A_WeaponReady (WRF_ALLOWRELOAD | WRF_NOBOB)```

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this do anything?

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 11:33 PM

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apparently less

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*yes

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tho I got a new error

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Unterminated string constant```

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I'm going to assume translated it says " I can't find this string"

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..or a quotation mark is missing

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Weapon Machinegun doesn't define a ready state.```

unreal oyster Feb 3, 2017, 11:36 PM

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post line 88

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if you are having issues, please post the line

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don't just expect us to know 😛

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 11:36 PM

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keep forgetting

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}

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literally it.

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gUT?

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Min? Gut?

unreal oyster Feb 3, 2017, 11:47 PM

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what?

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oh

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 11:47 PM

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I posted line 88

unreal oyster Feb 3, 2017, 11:48 PM

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okay well that's not enough to go on, post like around 10 lines around 88 i guess?

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 11:48 PM

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88-78?

unreal oyster Feb 3, 2017, 11:48 PM

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nah, like 83-93

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 11:49 PM

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    Spawn:
        MCGN W -1
        Stop
        }    
    } 


actor MachineGunAmmo : Ammo
{
inventory.amount 10```

unreal oyster Feb 3, 2017, 11:49 PM

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okay, that's still not enough to go on lol

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post the whole thing

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 11:50 PM

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If you mean the whole code... I can't.

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Discord text limit

unreal oyster Feb 3, 2017, 11:51 PM

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pastebin

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 11:51 PM

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do I need an account?

unreal oyster Feb 3, 2017, 11:51 PM

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nope

vocal crypt Feb 3, 2017, 11:52 PM

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http://pastebin.com/12JJg9Nf

Pastebin

ACTOR Machinegun : Weapon 601 { //$Category Weapons //$Sprite MC...

unreal oyster Feb 3, 2017, 11:57 PM

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omg how did i not notice

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you just need to add a Ready state lol

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it's mandatory on all weapons

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 12:05 AM

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...except readyloop is suppose to be said ready state

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@unreal oyster

unreal oyster Feb 4, 2017, 12:06 AM

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but it's not

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readyloop is the readyloop state

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not the ready state

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 12:06 AM

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@torn timber you apparently forgot the ready state in yo code

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and your code also apparently freezes the game up.

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Min?

trim falcon Feb 4, 2017, 12:25 AM

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infinite loop is fun

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 12:38 AM

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@torn timber ?

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sorry for the extra pingin

torn timber Feb 4, 2017, 12:40 AM

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I didn't include the ready code on purpose because like I said,

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all the Ready state does in my weapon is serve to reset/remove tokens

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and then drop into the ReadyLoop state

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The Ready state on my weapon only runs once, then it loops through the ReadyLoop state

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 12:41 AM

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so just ready with the usual a_weaponready crap?

torn timber Feb 4, 2017, 12:42 AM

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because it's generally a good idea to not use something like "Goto Ready+5" often, because if you end up changing the number of lines at the beginning of that state, you'd have to change that +5 offset too, and those offsets can easily be forgotten when they're spread across hundreds of lines of codes.

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but no

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a_weaponready should be in the ReadyLoop on my code

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for your purposes, you can just rename ReadyLoop to Ready

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 12:43 AM

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Which I did

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and now I'm stuck on the game freezing part

torn timber Feb 4, 2017, 12:43 AM

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unless there's something you have to do before the weapon goes back to the Ready state

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what does your code look like now?

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 12:44 AM

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I'd post it in discord, but the stupid text limit

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http://pastebin.com/12JJg9Nf

Pastebin

ACTOR Machinegun : Weapon 601 { //$Category Weapons //$Sprite MC...

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IIRC

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oh wait

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that's the old part

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http://pastebin.com/i7qxgf3r

Pastebin

ACTOR Machinegun : Weapon 601 { //$Category Weapons //$Sprite MC...

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this is the "new" code.

torn timber Feb 4, 2017, 12:46 AM

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Here, I'll show you what the full Ready and ReadyLoop look like on my code and you'll probably understand why I don't include that in the example:

    TNT1 A 0 A_AlertMonsters(random(16,128))
    TNT1 A 0 A_ZoomFactor(1,ZOOM_INSTANT)
    TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("IronSight",1)
    TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("RoF",1)
    TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("SpecFire",1)
    TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("KnifeAtk",1)
    TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("ThrowGrenade",1)
    TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("Reloading",1)
    TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("AmmoSwap",1)
    M60A ABCDEFGHIJLMNOP 2 A_WeaponReady(WRF_NOPRIMARY)

Readyloop:
    TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfNoAmmo("Reload")
    TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("Reloading",1,"Reload")
    TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("KnifeAtk",1,"Knife")
    TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("ThrowGrenade",1,"GrenadeCheck")
    M60A P 1 A_WeaponReady(WRF_NOBOB)
    loop```

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Looking through your new code now

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 12:52 AM

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results?

torn timber Feb 4, 2017, 12:59 AM

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Well when using this system, you need to have your primary ammo be the loaded ammo and your secondary can be the reserve ammo (for display purposes)

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I'll highlight the changes

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 1:00 AM

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so the primary ammo would be the Ma-

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oh

unreal oyster Feb 4, 2017, 1:02 AM

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for highlighting code changes, github gist is great

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https://gist.github.com/Gutawer159/8107d65d86b5b628f92f13fb49a80bf7/revisions

GitHub

Build software better, together

GitHub is where people build software. More than 19 million people use GitHub to discover, fork, and contribute to over 51 million projects.

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example

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 1:08 AM

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trying not to be impatient, but how's the progress @torn timber

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 1:45 AM

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Min?

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@torn timber

torn timber Feb 4, 2017, 2:05 AM

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https://gist.github.com/MinesaeHiromu/c12a2f226a4e3413c571375d6cc65346/revisions

GitHub

Build software better, together

GitHub is where people build software. More than 19 million people use GitHub to discover, fork, and contribute to over 51 million projects.

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https://gist.githubusercontent.com/MinesaeHiromu/c12a2f226a4e3413c571375d6cc65346/raw/cc54301927113f13110165cff70d04991d3592ab/MachineGun.txt

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there's the raw code

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should be working fully now

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you don't really need that "Reloading" token, that was more for interacting with our ACS stuff

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 2:06 AM

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the reloading actor

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or the "state"

torn timber Feb 4, 2017, 2:06 AM

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token

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it's an actor

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 2:07 AM

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oh

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still freezing when ammo is chewed up all the way

torn timber Feb 4, 2017, 2:09 AM

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oh

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it's getting stuck in a reload loop then

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to fix it,

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try swapping the two lines in the Ready state

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that way it at least plays one tic before checking for ammo

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I'll look into a better fix

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but that should keep it from crashing for now

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 2:11 AM

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not freezing

torn timber Feb 4, 2017, 2:12 AM

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cause I think what'll happen by letting it stay like that is that your weapon will never autoswitch to a non-empty weapon

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because of the +AMMO_OPTIONAL flag

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which keeps the gun from autoswitching when you run out of loaded ammo

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 2:12 AM

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something off-topicish, but which ammo actor is the clips, and the amount of ammo in said clip?

torn timber Feb 4, 2017, 2:14 AM

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"MachineGunAmmo" = Your spare "magazines" (it's really just all of your remaining ammo that isn't loaded in the gun.
"MachineGunLoaded" = Your currently loaded magazine.

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 2:17 AM

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apparently when teh gun reloads, it takes 30 of those spare magazines

torn timber Feb 4, 2017, 2:17 AM

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what

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no

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it takes 30 bullets

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 2:17 AM

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well that

torn timber Feb 4, 2017, 2:17 AM

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You're not carrying 300 magazines

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 2:17 AM

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300 bullets

torn timber Feb 4, 2017, 2:18 AM

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yes

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when it reloads, it takes up to 30 bullets from your reserve

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there's no real Magazines being used

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It's just
What's in the gun/What's not in the gun

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 2:19 AM

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hmmm

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well how do I change it to something like 3 "magazines" not used, while the current mag has 60?

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er

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or is the right thing just total bullets.

torn timber Feb 4, 2017, 2:20 AM

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it's just total bullets

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 2:20 AM

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hmm

torn timber Feb 4, 2017, 2:20 AM

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if one mag would carry 30 bullets,

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and you only want a max of 4 mags worth of ammo total, then you would set your MachineGunAmmo total to 90

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you would then be able to have 1 mag worth (30 bullets) in the gun

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and then 3 mags worth (90 bullets) in reserve

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or if you want 4 reserve mags worth of ammo, you'd make the total 120

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 2:21 AM

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the total would go in inventory.amount or inventory.maxamount?

torn timber Feb 4, 2017, 2:22 AM

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inventory.amount is how much you get when you pick up the ammo, inventory.maxamount is the maximum amount you can carry total

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/Inventory_properties

Inventory properties

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 2:49 AM

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well I've tried this reloading system on another gun and it works mostly fine

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the only problem is that when it runs out of ammo on the current "magazine" it swtiches to another gun

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in this case, the plasma gun

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note this is another gun, not the machinegun

torn timber Feb 4, 2017, 2:56 AM

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it does that because it probably doesn't use the +AMMO_OPTIONAL flag

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when it technically hits 0 primary ammo, it issues a switch, before it ever has the chance to reload

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 4:12 PM

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Apparently GZDoom can't read some formats for textures

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mostly the flat formats

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well

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GZDoom Builder

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 10:40 PM

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Apparently I got problems with textures

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because GZDoom Builder can't read the formats

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for lfat textures

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*flat

warped rampart Feb 4, 2017, 11:16 PM

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You can also edit your posts but okay.

unreal oyster Feb 4, 2017, 11:19 PM

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@vocal crypt what exactly is the issue here, i feel i'm missing something

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which format are you mapping in?

vocal crypt Feb 4, 2017, 11:30 PM

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UDMF format

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@unreal oyster

unreal oyster Feb 4, 2017, 11:39 PM

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hmm

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sorry then i don't really know :/

vocal crypt Feb 6, 2017, 12:47 AM

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anyone know if using MAPINFO can help you use a different "texture" for the skybox?

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Don't wanna use the cliche F_SKY texture

unreal oyster Feb 6, 2017, 12:49 AM

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yes

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sky1 = <sky name>

vocal crypt Feb 6, 2017, 12:49 AM

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can that be used for DOOM 2, or is that just what skybox F_SKY uses?

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er

royal wave Feb 6, 2017, 12:50 AM

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any map

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but you have to use one of the sky textures that exist in the game already to get it to work

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otherwise you'll just have a ceiling of your texture and not a sky effect

vocal crypt Feb 6, 2017, 12:51 AM

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so F_SKY for example?

unreal oyster Feb 6, 2017, 12:52 AM

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F_SKY1 isn't really a normal texture, it's a weird kind-of-texture that makes a skybox appear in a map

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SKY1, SKY2 and SKY3 are the doom 2 sky names

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if you are using mapinfo, you'd want to call it something like SPACESKY for a starry sky, for example

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don't call it SKY1, SKY2 or SKY3

vocal crypt Feb 6, 2017, 12:54 AM

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also, anyone know how to fix that texture problem in GZDoom?

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or am I just gonna have to shove the textures in the map wad file?

unreal oyster Feb 6, 2017, 12:55 AM

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i can't remember the problem sorry, repeat it

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be as specific as possible

vocal crypt Feb 6, 2017, 12:56 AM

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GZDoom Builder can't recognize the format of the flat textures from that gothic texture mod from Realm667.

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I put them in a textures folder in a PK3

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(I use PK3's as a resource, with the wad for maps and stuff)

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(for mods and shit)

royal wave Feb 6, 2017, 12:57 AM

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you need to tell GZDoom that there are texture resources in the PK3

vocal crypt Feb 6, 2017, 12:58 AM

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How do I do that

royal wave Feb 6, 2017, 12:59 AM

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resource settings in the options menu

vocal crypt Feb 6, 2017, 1:01 AM

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The bloody thing is confusing.

royal wave Feb 6, 2017, 1:06 AM

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Yeah doom modding isn't a very clean process

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honestly don't blame anyone when the contents of their wad are severly disorganized

vocal crypt Feb 6, 2017, 1:15 AM

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that or some other shit happened

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because wehn I pasted it all in the pk3 file again, GZDoom didn't throw a fit about textures

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from GOTHICTX file to the PK3.

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or GZDoom Builder

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also, is it possible to have a texture with transparent background over a non-transparent background texture? Or am I asking somethign limited by teh engine?

vocal crypt Feb 6, 2017, 1:40 AM

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@unreal oyster might help with this or somethin?

haughty flower Feb 6, 2017, 5:39 PM

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How would i add custom textures for GZDoom builder?

haughty flower Feb 6, 2017, 6:50 PM

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nevermind, got them to work

vast bolt Feb 6, 2017, 8:33 PM

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Hmm, trying to take a peek at the R667 Shuffle mod but I think editing the weapons made it not switch to shotguns.

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like you can switch to everything else but with shotguns you can't switch

unreal oyster Feb 6, 2017, 10:01 PM

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Realm667 weapons by default aren't switchable to

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You need to give them a weapon and selection order first

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And probably a doomednum

vocal crypt Feb 6, 2017, 10:10 PM

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some of them have doomednum

vast bolt Feb 6, 2017, 10:48 PM

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oh?

vocal crypt Feb 6, 2017, 11:30 PM

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> bombplanting 
>            ^

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I would be working on that DoomStrike mod

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buuuut I'm busy with trying to get a second ACS script to wrok

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*work

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<@&162901871168585728> maybe you guys could help?

unreal oyster Feb 6, 2017, 11:34 PM

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ayy don't tag the mods if it's not related to modding the server please

vocal crypt Feb 6, 2017, 11:35 PM

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sorry

vocal crypt Feb 7, 2017, 1:40 AM

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Is there a way for the bombsite to remove that inventory item used to allow you to plant teh bomb?

vast bolt Feb 7, 2017, 2:25 AM

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This is weird, its just not letting the player switch between their shotgun and pistol

hazy lodge Feb 7, 2017, 2:36 AM

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you boys got a download link? I wanna test it for me old self

trim falcon Feb 7, 2017, 2:36 AM

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@sharp smelt zandronum dev download

sharp smeltBOT Feb 7, 2017, 2:36 AM

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Searching...

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https://zandronum.com/download

hazy lodge Feb 7, 2017, 2:37 AM

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nope
the mod you guys are talking baout

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*about

vocal crypt Feb 7, 2017, 2:37 AM

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who, me or Harbringer

hazy lodge Feb 7, 2017, 2:38 AM

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both

vocal crypt Feb 7, 2017, 2:38 AM

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mine is a doom themed CS thing

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but I think it's half baked even for a alpha and first time

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I've pretty much got two things to do excluding maps: Finish the bombsite, and work on a shop system ala CS IIRC.

📎 DoomStrikeZAN0.1.pk3

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It reeks of Realm667 content the weapons.

haughty flower Feb 7, 2017, 6:03 AM

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@vocal crypt you can do that in decorate. Something along the lines of A_RemoveInventory or somestuff

molten tide Feb 7, 2017, 12:54 PM

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Hi, anyone know how to use abs in acs ?

torn timber Feb 7, 2017, 1:05 PM

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/Abs

Abs

molten tide Feb 7, 2017, 1:15 PM

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Hmmm

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Need more example

royal wave Feb 7, 2017, 1:16 PM

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It's returning an absolute value

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As in if it's negative, you'll get a positive

molten tide Feb 7, 2017, 1:19 PM

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so tell me how

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{
mouse_yaw = GetPlayerInput(PlayerNumber(), INPUT_YAW);
}```

royal wave Feb 7, 2017, 1:20 PM

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It's a function that returns a value

molten tide Feb 7, 2017, 1:20 PM

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mouse_yaw must be positive

royal wave Feb 7, 2017, 1:21 PM

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Do you know how to call functions through acs?

molten tide Feb 7, 2017, 1:21 PM

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I do not know how

royal wave Feb 7, 2017, 1:21 PM

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Okay so copy the function example in the wiki and paste it into your code

molten tide Feb 7, 2017, 1:22 PM

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done

royal wave Feb 7, 2017, 1:24 PM

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Now in script 1 replace ```mouse_yaw = GetPlayerInput(PlayerNumber(), INPUT_YAW);

with  ```mouse_yaw = abs(GetPlayerInput(PlayerNumber(), INPUT_YAW));

molten tide Feb 7, 2017, 1:24 PM

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I see

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does the x mean anything ?

torn timber Feb 7, 2017, 1:25 PM

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what x?

royal wave Feb 7, 2017, 1:25 PM

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X is just an easier way to represent a number in programming

molten tide Feb 7, 2017, 1:25 PM

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thank you

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pretty gardevoir

royal wave Feb 7, 2017, 1:26 PM

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Ty

torn timber Feb 7, 2017, 1:26 PM

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ah, the one in the abs script

vast bolt Feb 7, 2017, 9:17 PM

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So if I upload the pk3 would anyone look at it?

haughty flower Feb 8, 2017, 9:50 AM

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how do i MANUALLY edit a sprite in slade?

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oh wait, i have to export it and then edit it

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dammit

warped rampart Feb 8, 2017, 5:32 PM

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At least it's easy to re-import.

drowsy forum Feb 8, 2017, 9:00 PM

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I added new soulsphere upgrades to D4D if anyone's interested.

unreal oyster Feb 8, 2017, 9:00 PM

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ah, that's cool

drowsy forum Feb 8, 2017, 9:00 PM

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Also buffed the fuck out of the spider mastermind rune.

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I dont think I can do anymore buffing without it going into overpowered territory but it should definitely handle a lot better now.

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 9:08 PM

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Btw is the big bitch(SMM) in D4

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?

shadow bone Feb 8, 2017, 9:08 PM

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spider mastermind? In a form, yes

hazy lantern Feb 8, 2017, 9:09 PM

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>the big bitch

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wow 😄

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 9:09 PM

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Define"in a form*

shadow bone Feb 8, 2017, 9:10 PM

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I haven't actually gotten there. You could probably google it. I was meaning "yes, but not exactly like the classic one"

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 9:10 PM

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it shoots plasma Balls instead of bullets?

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 10:24 PM

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Wolfenstein: Hell Socialists(?)

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no video

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just

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name idea for some shit

haughty flower Feb 8, 2017, 10:24 PM

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sorry

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 10:24 PM

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no

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no

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not

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that you can't post vid

royal wave Feb 8, 2017, 10:24 PM

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You're making a fabulous first impression here Angel

haughty flower Feb 8, 2017, 10:24 PM

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excuse me?

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videos can be posed right?

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well, this is embarassing...

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 10:25 PM

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Misunderstandings und crep

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I think they can be posted here

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also, my alpha mod was embarassing as well

royal wave Feb 8, 2017, 10:25 PM

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Yes but the content is questionable

steel onyx Feb 8, 2017, 10:25 PM

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Yeah uh

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I'd say no thx

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 10:25 PM

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no thx to wat

steel onyx Feb 8, 2017, 10:26 PM

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That vid.

haughty flower Feb 8, 2017, 10:26 PM

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it doesnt do a good job at representing the mod

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i mean nice try

royal wave Feb 8, 2017, 10:26 PM

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That's.... no that's not the problem

haughty flower Feb 8, 2017, 10:27 PM

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well, let me explain about this video, it's a gameplay of a Hotline Miami themed

royal wave Feb 8, 2017, 10:27 PM

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Please keep things rated M for mature, not Ao for adults only

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 10:27 PM

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I didn't see anything that was AO in that vid

unreal oyster Feb 8, 2017, 10:27 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/nExEpTH.jpg

haughty flower Feb 8, 2017, 10:27 PM

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oh!

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 10:27 PM

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oh

unreal oyster Feb 8, 2017, 10:27 PM

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good fucking skill naming system 👍

haughty flower Feb 8, 2017, 10:27 PM

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yeah

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whoops.... ._.

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dont show that

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if you do, just try to censor it

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 10:28 PM

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so it just be

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Virgin

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woop

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again

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Virgin,Brutal,Rape,Snuff,Necrophilia

haughty flower Feb 8, 2017, 10:28 PM

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that sense of humor isnt alowed here

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sorry

elder ridgeBOT Feb 8, 2017, 10:29 PM

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:ok_hand: Angel-Neko_X#3428 has been warned.

unreal oyster Feb 8, 2017, 10:29 PM

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before i forget

static ice Feb 8, 2017, 10:29 PM

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Wait

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What?

haughty flower Feb 8, 2017, 10:31 PM

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Nobody react about my warn okay? (sigh) Still, it's embarassing

hazy lantern Feb 8, 2017, 10:31 PM

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Dude, it's simple:

royal wave Feb 8, 2017, 10:31 PM

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we clear warnings off after a week

hazy lantern Feb 8, 2017, 10:31 PM

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Videogame/virtual violence is to be expected here, but real-life or photo-realistic gore/death is usually not. Borderline cases will fall to moderator discretion.

royal wave Feb 8, 2017, 10:32 PM

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The warning system is just so we can keep track of when we've had to take action. it's not a 3 strike system

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so you made an honest mistake, but we don't take chances as we've had to deal with way worse people. Can't allow an inch

vast bolt Feb 8, 2017, 10:57 PM

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https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqmYIRIcXoGniz25WJN3dt4RSGmm

zmwr.pk3

PK3 File

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Help me fix Shotgun bug

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guys

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 10:57 PM

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what "shotgun bug"

vast bolt Feb 8, 2017, 10:58 PM

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Can't switch to it even if I pick it up

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 10:58 PM

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you have weapon.slotnumber 3?

vast bolt Feb 8, 2017, 10:58 PM

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yes

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 10:58 PM

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where

vast bolt Feb 8, 2017, 10:58 PM

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nothing was tampered with

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I just added a few weapons and enemies

unreal oyster Feb 8, 2017, 10:59 PM

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you have a Weapon.SelectionOrder too?

vast bolt Feb 8, 2017, 10:59 PM

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I'd assume in ZZZShufflePlayer or _mwr

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I don't know I only know RandomSpawners

vast bolt Feb 8, 2017, 11:19 PM

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So know the problem?

royal wave Feb 8, 2017, 11:20 PM

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you need a weapon.selectionorder set as well if it's not inherenting from a regular shotgun

vast bolt Feb 8, 2017, 11:22 PM

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Where does that line go?

royal wave Feb 8, 2017, 11:23 PM

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same area as weapon.slotnumber

vast bolt Feb 8, 2017, 11:26 PM

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So in keyconf?

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 11:26 PM

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what language you using

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DECORATE,ACS, DEHACKED?

vast bolt Feb 8, 2017, 11:26 PM

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Zdoom KeyConf

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Do I put it with DoomPlayer?

royal wave Feb 8, 2017, 11:31 PM

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I just said with weapon.slotnumber

vast bolt Feb 8, 2017, 11:31 PM

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This is still new to me

royal wave Feb 8, 2017, 11:31 PM

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that's in the decorate code

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you said you did have weapon.slotnumber set

vast bolt Feb 8, 2017, 11:32 PM

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weaponsection "Chainsaw"
addslotdefault 1 NewChainsaw

weaponsection "Shotgun"
addslotdefault 3 NewShotgun

weaponsection "SuperShotgun"
addslotdefault 3 NewSSG

weaponsection "Chaingun"
addslotdefault 4 NewChaingun

weaponsection "Rocket Launcher"
addslotdefault 5 NewRL

weaponsection "Plasma Rifle"
addslotdefault 6 NewPlasmaRifle

weaponsection "BFG9000"
addslotdefault 7 NewBFG

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This?

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Is this the set?

royal wave Feb 8, 2017, 11:36 PM

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okay toss out keyconf

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There's an easier way

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like straight up delete the lump

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 11:36 PM

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DECORATE is much easier

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well

vast bolt Feb 8, 2017, 11:37 PM

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ok

royal wave Feb 8, 2017, 11:37 PM

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Now go to the DECORATE code of your weapons

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in the flags block put weapon.slotnumber #

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replace # with the number you want the player to press to go to that weapon

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 11:38 PM

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1-8 IIRC

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or maybe 1-9

royal wave Feb 8, 2017, 11:39 PM

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0 - 9 actually

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 11:39 PM

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oh

vast bolt Feb 8, 2017, 11:43 PM

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Nope

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Regular Shotgun aint switching throw wheeling

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through*

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 11:43 PM

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weapon.selectionnumber ?

vast bolt Feb 8, 2017, 11:43 PM

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Its always 3

vocal crypt Feb 8, 2017, 11:43 PM

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that's not weapon.slotnumber?

vast bolt Feb 8, 2017, 11:44 PM

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Its suppose to be, did you take a look?

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Because all I see is custom weapons

unreal oyster Feb 8, 2017, 11:57 PM

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http://streamable.com/bh3ig

Streamable

2017-02-08 23-42-47

▶ Play video

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silly little mod i've been working on the past few days, enhanced doom AI
i posted an earlier version a while ago
since then i've added smarter logic and active projectile dodging
turned out pretty nicely

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there's the pk3 if anyone cares

📎 SmartDodge.pk3

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use newest gzdoom devbuild

haughty flower Feb 9, 2017, 12:25 AM

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looks like hell

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but what do you mean by newest devbuild?

royal wave Feb 9, 2017, 12:26 AM

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the dev team releases new versions almost daily

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they're not considered stable, so they call them dev builds

haughty flower Feb 9, 2017, 12:26 AM

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thats not what i meant

royal wave Feb 9, 2017, 12:26 AM

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it gives people time to try out the new features before they're officially released

haughty flower Feb 9, 2017, 12:26 AM

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i use them regularly

royal wave Feb 9, 2017, 12:27 AM

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yeah... so use the newest devbuild

haughty flower Feb 9, 2017, 12:27 AM

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i mean what build is recomended?

royal wave Feb 9, 2017, 12:27 AM

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newest

unreal oyster Feb 9, 2017, 12:27 AM

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i mean it could work on older builds, i just haven't tested

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i use the newest gzdoom devbuild

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so if it breaks while under an older build, then

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

vocal crypt Feb 9, 2017, 12:28 AM

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but the question is

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why you using an old build

haughty flower Feb 9, 2017, 12:29 AM

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so im assuming not 2.4 pre-342-gd90f2ba

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build of 2/5/17

unreal oyster Feb 9, 2017, 12:29 AM

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i use g2.4pre-359

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it probably doesn't really matter though

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just use the newest to be sure

haughty flower Feb 9, 2017, 12:30 AM

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we will see about that

prisma saddle Feb 9, 2017, 12:30 AM

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Didn't run when I tried it.

unreal oyster Feb 9, 2017, 12:31 AM

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if it didn't run, you should update

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http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/gzdoom/

vocal crypt Feb 9, 2017, 12:31 AM

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any other monsters or just imps rn?

unreal oyster Feb 9, 2017, 12:31 AM

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just imps rn

haughty flower Feb 9, 2017, 12:33 AM

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works for me

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and yeah its a pain in the butt

unreal oyster Feb 9, 2017, 12:33 AM

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hah

vocal crypt Feb 9, 2017, 12:35 AM

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not for me

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pistol killed the mofo

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so

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but then again

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AI didn't change health

haughty flower Feb 9, 2017, 12:36 AM

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thats because this build doesnt have the bullet sponge imps

unreal oyster Feb 9, 2017, 12:36 AM

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try spawning a bunch of them

vocal crypt Feb 9, 2017, 12:36 AM

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define "bullet sponge"

unreal oyster Feb 9, 2017, 12:36 AM

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on their own, they're not too bad

vocal crypt Feb 9, 2017, 12:36 AM

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TERRY wad bullet sponge

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or just Cyberdemon bullet sponge

unreal oyster Feb 9, 2017, 12:36 AM

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but when there's a lot, they will surround you and absolutely fuck you up

vocal crypt Feb 9, 2017, 12:37 AM

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unless you got the BFG

unreal oyster Feb 9, 2017, 12:39 AM

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well yeah but that sorta isn't the point 😛

vocal crypt Feb 9, 2017, 12:39 AM

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Smart Cyberdemon

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Fuck it, Spider Mastermind. Smart Spider Mastermind

unreal oyster Feb 9, 2017, 12:39 AM

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that doesn't even make sense 😛

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they wouldn't be able to jump, lol

vocal crypt Feb 9, 2017, 12:40 AM

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but they can stomp

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or squash you

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in a non-cartoony way

prisma saddle Feb 9, 2017, 12:43 AM

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Could someone help me transfer my GZDOOM settings over to the next version?

unreal oyster Feb 9, 2017, 12:43 AM

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just drag and drop the ini :?

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should work

prisma saddle Feb 9, 2017, 12:45 AM

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Not really working for some reason...

haughty flower Feb 9, 2017, 12:49 AM

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Time for a little bit of copying and pasting codes from eachothers

unreal oyster Feb 9, 2017, 12:50 AM

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??

haughty flower Feb 9, 2017, 12:50 AM

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boot up your favorite ~~word~~ text editing program and fix some stuff

prisma saddle Feb 9, 2017, 12:53 AM

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I guess I'll just do it manually.

pallid yoke Feb 9, 2017, 4:40 AM

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https://steemit.com/gaming/@thecastle/doom2-redemption-of-the-slain-beta-2-0-release-and-download-feb-8-2016

Steemit

Doom2 - Redemption Of The Slain Beta 2.0 Release and Download (F...

Here is a raw 16 minutes of black metal difficulty for Redemption Of The Slain Beta 2. This includes the new area of… by thecastle

viscid ridge Feb 9, 2017, 7:59 AM

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I uploaded new screenshots of my map https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1715070

hazy lantern Feb 9, 2017, 8:00 AM

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That looks nice

viscid ridge Feb 9, 2017, 8:06 AM

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Thanks @hazy lantern

hazy lantern Feb 9, 2017, 8:06 AM

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When do you think about releasing the WAD file?

viscid ridge Feb 9, 2017, 8:07 AM

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I could release a pre-alpha now, but it's not tested or anything really

hazy lantern Feb 9, 2017, 8:08 AM

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Oh okay, I'll wait then 😄

viscid ridge Feb 9, 2017, 8:08 AM

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everyone I had look at it hates slaughter maps, and I've only done UV and that's slaughter

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I can balance HMP and lower to not be slaughter

hazy lantern Feb 9, 2017, 8:09 AM

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🤔

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@viscid ridge Alrighty: Just inform me when the WAD is out! 😄

viscid ridge Feb 9, 2017, 8:10 AM

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It's a map in the megawad Nova III, I suppose I could release it separately, but I'll have to make sure that's ok

frank basin Feb 9, 2017, 8:55 AM

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Seems like D16 modding is once again possible! https://www.reddit.com/r/DOOM2016Mods/comments/5sxray/2917_update_doomextract_161/

2/9/17 update: DOOMExtract 1.6.1 • /r/DOOM2016Mods

Now working with the latest patches. Sub is dead, but for anyone...

drowsy forum Feb 9, 2017, 7:41 PM

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Woo, neat! How about sane file naming for sounds?

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In the mean time, out in the middle of buttfucking nowhere in space...

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I randomly tossed two mods together.

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https://puu.sh/tVBNr/b2462b9070.jpg

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ate a hell knight, specifically.

vocal crypt Feb 9, 2017, 7:47 PM

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Vore

drowsy forum Feb 9, 2017, 7:48 PM

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Yummy

drowsy forum Feb 10, 2017, 2:22 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUNpJxvmt1E

YouTube

Major Cooke

Twilight Monster Hunger

▶ Play video

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You see this shit right here?

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THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS... when I am BORED out of my FUCKING MIND.

vocal crypt Feb 10, 2017, 2:23 AM

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oh shit it's fucking Apocalypse Hasbro'd

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MARVEL'S Apocalypse

drowsy forum Feb 10, 2017, 2:23 AM

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XD

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SHe's intended for another mod but I thought it'd be funny to randomly slap her into D4D for shits and giggles.

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Was fun.

trim falcon Feb 10, 2017, 2:24 AM

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how to make light effect ?

drowsy forum Feb 10, 2017, 2:24 AM

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That's bloom.

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Just turn it on in the gzdoom options.

trim falcon Feb 10, 2017, 2:24 AM

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oh

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so its not zscript/decorate

drowsy forum Feb 10, 2017, 2:24 AM

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nope.

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@royal wave Just imagine what my boredom will make me do next (see above). 😛

vocal crypt Feb 10, 2017, 2:25 AM

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vore Doom style?

drowsy forum Feb 10, 2017, 2:25 AM

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No.

royal wave Feb 10, 2017, 2:25 AM

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what am I looking at