- change the sprite into green. not include the blood
#classic-doom-maps-mods
trim falcon
- use translation
inb4 too much works to recolor the sprites
vocal crypt
unfortunately yeah
the blood color is changed seperately
so
I can have it be purple
but seriously
your guys problem is blood
well
the oclor of it
I'm asking for criticism
I'm asking for criticism
trim falcon
the code looks good and functional
restive glade
royal wave
It's incredible what enabling lights does to a dev texture map
Fullbright comparison
vocal crypt
so far I've come up with a chaingunguy that's a kamikaze
he does shoot
but his plasmaballs are slow and don't do damage
so those plasmaballs are a bluff
and he has more speed than the SpeedChainGunGuy
which I'm thinking I should probabyl switch the speeds
outer crescent
haughty flower
damn
vocal crypt
first gotta make that arrow sprite.
which'll be a PITA in Photoshop
what's the minimum size a sprite "Frame" can be
shadow bone
1x1 pixel
You could theoretically make a 5x5 pixel graphic then use the DECORATE scale property to make it bigger in-game
or vice-versa
vocal crypt
well apparently a 1x1 or 5x5 is too tiny for Photoshop
also, does the background have to be that cyan color or transparent
shadow bone
If you make it cyan, then SLADE can convert it to Doom-format graphics and the cyan will end up transparent
Alternatively, just use transparent and make it a truecolor PNG
I think all ZDoom-based engines support that
vocal crypt
I'm more concerned on the size of the pixel graphic
because it's apparently too small for me
vocal crypt
I rather stick to PS.
shadow bone
Could be bigger as well
shadow bone
Look in your IWADs for doom graphics, maybe export the player's sprite so you can use it as a size template
30x30 sounds about like a BFG fireball size
I think
vocal crypt
I ripped some skin sprites to use as the sprites for the classes
so
I could use those probably
shadow bone
Yep
vocal crypt
instead of digging in the iWads
shadow bone
That works too
vocal crypt
apparently it's a 24 by 61 pixel size.
going by Photoshop's Image size thing.
apparently I suck at makin a sprite or somethin
vocal crypt
Also @shadow bone remember that "concept" of the bombsite's actor?
this to bes pecific
{
Speed 20
States
{
Spawn:
TNT1 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 0 A_Wander
Wait:
AROW A -1
Stop
}
}```Yah?
vocal crypt
well apparently GZDoom and Zandronum whine it doesn't have 4 characters for the sprite
shadow bone
Looks like "wait" is a reserved word or something
Change that to "death", it should work the same
vocal crypt
well now they ain't whining about it
the source ports
well they work
since they "teleport" to random places
shadow bone
Sucess!
vocal crypt
Had to use Commando sprite tho since I don't have an arrow sprite yet and I suck at making sprites
for the death part
vocal crypt
fine.
shadow bone
Don't get ahead of yourself ๐
vocal crypt
I'll do it in paint since I ain't got the patience for PS to start up.
...Or maybe Paint.NET or GIMP
you can't set resolution in MS Paint...
shadow bone
Yes you can, drag the little box in the lower-right corner of the image
There's also a "scale" function, which works fine if you don't have anything drawn already
plush sapphire
I use IrfanView in conjunction with my other software (MSPaint, PS, Medibang, GIMP, etc)
Means some minor copy/paste stuff from one to the other at times, but I get it all done how I want?
vocal crypt
well apparently my spriting skills ain't worth dick
also, the sprite does work, but apparently it "digs" in the ground
thankfully i forgot to put transparency so the white background sticks out
haughty flower
Is it possible for a map to have a highly smooth flow in its navigation and combat without being linear?
unreal oyster
meh, it's a placeholder, it'll do ๐
unreal oyster
for zandronum? yeah, likely
haughty flower
those are some very bizzare placeholders
trim falcon
what is that
vocal crypt
how would we get the bombsites to check ones inventory for deh bomb
and plant it or somethin
trim falcon
sector tag
something like this
if bomb in the right sector tag like sector 666
you can put the bomb
and I too lazy to search the actual code
unreal oyster
no, that isn't going to work
@vocal crypt you'll want to get the bombsites to use A_RadiusGive to give all players in range of the bombsite an inventory item
then the bomb weapon would check for that inventory item, and only plant if it was found
which will make it so the bombs can only be planted when near the sites
vocal crypt
wait, so bombsites would use A_RadiusGive to give all players a bomb or something?
er
unreal oyster
no
they'd give a dummy inventory item
that isn't the bomb
then the bomb (a weapon) will do a check for this dummy inventory item
vocal crypt
and plant when it is "found"
vocal crypt
so it'd be
A_RadiusGive BombDummyInvent for the Bombsite
but for the actual bomb
it'd be check for dummy inventory item?
(forgot the code for checking for x item in a inventory)
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check if inventory
unreal oyster
no, it's A_JumpIfInventory
vocal crypt
for the bomb part
unreal oyster
and that's not how functions work, it'd be
A_RadiusGive("BombDummyInvent", 64.0, RGF_PLAYERS)
something like that
that'll give players in a range of 64 units the "BombDummyInvent"
you will likely also need something to take away the item when the player moves out of range again
vocal crypt
well I'm in the middle of creating said dummy actor.
vocal crypt
Ok apparently Zandronum doesn't have TNT1
trim falcon
r u sure bout that ?
vocal crypt
that, or it keeps whining about its sprite character size
unreal oyster
yeah no, i'm pretty sure it does have TNT1
vocal crypt
{
Speed 20
Radius 20
Height 56
States
{
Spawn:
TNT1 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 0 A_Wander A_RadiusGive ("DummyBombInvent",64.0,RGF_PLAYERS)
Death:
AROW A -1
Stop
}
}```actor Bombsite
{
Speed 20
Radius 20
Height 56
States
{
Spawn:
TNT1 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 0 A_Wander
Goto GiveDummy
GiveDummy:
AROW A 1 A_RadiusGive ("DummyBombInvent",64.0,RGF_PLAYERS)
Loop
Death:
AROW A -1
Stop
}
}
try something like this
shadow bone
Yeah, you can't have two action functions on one line unless you're using anonymous functions, which are probably too soon to be worrying about
vocal crypt
since it's probably the only multiplayer source port that supports custom shit
oh dear.
InvalidState A_RadiusGive
shadow bone
Try removing the space between A_RadiusGive and the parameters after it
Not sure if that's the issue or not
unreal oyster
i dunno, it could be that ZDoom 2.7 introduced A_RadiusGive
if so, you'll need to use Zandronum 3.0
shadow bone
integer
vocal crypt
oh
shadow bone
str is string
int = integer, a whole number like 1 or 32
str = string, "text things in quotes"
fixed/float = floating point numbers, like 1.0 or 32.5
vocal crypt
Well apparently your theory is right Gut
unreal oyster
eh, fixed doesn't really = float
shadow bone
TRue
vocal crypt
but apparently Zan 3.0 doesn't support A_Wander
not that it doesn't start up
but the bombsite isn't, you know, wandering
unreal oyster
uh
vocal crypt
when summoned in console
unreal oyster
that shouldn't happen
vocal crypt
maybe it's the GoTo GiveDummy thing?
torn timber
What's the exact error?
torn timber
yes
vocal crypt
it's the fact the BombSite isn't wandering for the amount frames
until "dying"
yes I do have A_Wander
torn timber
Is it still the same as the code block above?
vocal crypt
should be yes
torn timber
I'll look at that
Do you intend for it to seem to teleport around randomly every tic?
also how does it enter the death state?
actually wait
I see the loop there,
so it'll only wander a bunch within the first tic
and then constantly give the dummy item?
vocal crypt
Supposedly yes
what I wnat it to do is wander with the first tic, then stop at whatever the last tic was at, and give the dummy item
IIRC
torn timber
is it meant to give the item every tic forever too?
vocal crypt
IIRC, the bomb you plant checks for the dummy item, and if it's there, it plants
so
maybe?
IDK
vocal crypt
the bombsite just stays in place.
torn timber
no wandering
torn timber
oh
vocal crypt
I put telport in quotes because it doesn't exactly teleport
it's just invisible when wandering
torn timber
so it's doing what it's supposed to do and actually move somewhere?
you should never actually see it move if the A_Wander takes palce in a 0 tic interval
vocal crypt
I'm summoning it via console
so I'd expect its location to be random
but let's test the tic theory
torn timber
make sure you add nodelay to that first line if you're going to keep it like this
TNT1 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 0 NoDelay A_Wander
The first frame is never actually used unless you put nodelay on that first spawn state line. The first frame is usually used to initialize the actor, see "State Keywords" on the Actor States page on the wiki.
It's why you'd see some other DECORATE examples do this:
TNT1 AAAA 0 A_Wander```that 0 tic line by itself at the beginning of the Spawn state is usually reserved for that initialization when the Spawn state isn't going to be looped
vocal crypt
it appears your tic theory was correct
torn timber
could be messing with the A_Wander being called
vocal crypt
it was 0 tics so it didn't do nothing
torn timber
I can't really explain that quirk then
vocal crypt
I guess the 0 tics from the frames meant it can't actually wander
vocal crypt
now I gotta create that bomb weapon
haughty flower
The more I try and fix my yandere-doom thing, the more broke it gets ๐ฆ
thats what you get for a early acess game
lmao
haughty flower
I just got that face lined up xD
molten tide
Good job ๐
haughty flower
ty
trim falcon
poke impse
molten tide
Nooo, I not les!
trim falcon
ok
unreal oyster
@drowsy forum with ZScript can i get an actor's pointer from a TID?
drowsy forum
That I don't know.
unreal oyster
ok, that's fine
what about getting a actor pointers from their species? would i need a thinkeriterator for that?
drowsy forum
What are you trying to accomplish?
unreal oyster
well basically i am spawning an actor in through ACS and i need to then get the player as a pointer so I can use it in functions such as A_Warp
because the player won't be pointed to by any of the AAPTR_s
dawn saffron
hey, if anyone's interested, i've mostly finished my latest map: "Delta Calamity"
it's the first map in the series which i plan on expanding from here on out, so please do check it out and enjoy
this time it's strictly singleplayer and better in every way i could think of since my "heavy..." campaign
tdm56a6j
please do enjoy and i'm looking forward to feedback
haughty flower
Whats it about? :/
dawn saffron
it's about killing demons
but the background is that there is a uac facility that was invaded by demons (the usual stuff) and one part of the facility sealed itself off trying to save itself
you land your spaceship and venture into intricate labyrinths (as intricate as snapmap gets) of uac and start exploring the three sectors of this facility, in the end opening the sealed off sector and finding what was hiding inside...
haughty flower
oooh
vocal crypt
I'm planning on using the ClaymoreMine from Realm667 as the "base" for the bomb
granite marsh
I'm working on my very first WAD ever. I call it "Making Due". It would have no shotguns of any kind, so the play would have to make due with other weapon types.
vocal crypt
what was that command that checks inventory for a certain item?
vocal crypt
what was the check inventory command thing
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printinv
shadow bone
CheckInventory
vocal crypt
{
if (CheckInventory("DummyBombInvent"
Print(s:"Planting the bomb);
else
Print(s:"Stop fucking around and shoot your enemy!");
}```I don't think it'll work
unless I make the bomb run Script 1 when pressing E on the BombSite
vocal crypt
well apparently it's expecting something but gets print instead
{
if (CheckInventory("DummyBombInvent"))
Print(s:"Planting the bomb");
else
Print(s:"Stop fucking around and shoot your enemy!");
}```when pressing compile ACS that is
WARNING: C:\Users\FREDDY~1\AppData\Local\Temp\SLADE3\acs.acs:3:6: implicitly declaring function checkinventory [--warn-forward-reference]
ERROR: C:\Users\FREDDY~1\AppData\Local\Temp\SLADE3\acs.acs:4:4: expected primary-expression got 'print'
printf ?
trim falcon
wait
before that
{
int x = 10;
Print(s:"This is a string"); //prints "This is a string"
Delay(35*5);
Print(d:x); //prints "10"
Delay(35*5);
Print(s:"This is x: ", d:x); //prints "This is x: 10"
Delay(35*5);
Print(s:"I need ", d:x, s:" shells"); //prints "I need 10 shells"
}```test this code if its work
to check if it your compiler problem or not
vocal crypt
=== Error log: ===
ERROR: C:\Users\FREDDY~1\AppData\Local\Temp\SLADE3\acs.acs:4:6: expected primary-expression got 'print'
GCC-ACC
vocal crypt
no\
vocal crypt
how do you make Slade use a exe for ACS
because I think it's stuck using gcc-acc
or I CAN'T find the menu for ACS stuff
trim falcon
edit>preference>script
trim falcon
maybe gcc-acc using different type of code
you should post this on zdoom forum for an explaination
vocal crypt
p_startscript unknown script 1
that's what console says
maybe I forgot to put the "trigger" on the bomb weapon
or rather
the bombsite
er
trim falcon
when you compile
its should works
errr
I think I know why
you forgot something
did you already make LOADACS
LOADACS Lump
trim falcon
Its a lump that use to load your ACS
vocal crypt
is it it's own file
or something you put in the acs file
oh
it's #include whatever
trim falcon
yes something like that
I working on screenshot
your script txt is in your script folder
LOADACS is to load your acs code
vocal crypt
I presume you got something like MonsterTID in ACS?
vocal crypt
script works
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vocal crypt
and my script works
now I need to make the bombsite use the script when a use state happens or something
...and some time limit before teh bom explodes
and a defusal script
speaking of which
@royal wave is this possible, or am I just thinking of something the engine can't do
vocal crypt
Bools?
royal wave
Bools
trim falcon
true of false
vocal crypt
I guess my mod would be som Doom arcade-y kind of CS.
I dunno.
I was thinking of the name Doom Strike but I think it's weird and crappy
also, @unreal oyster with your idea of the bombsites giving a dummy inventory item
would it just be in that radius?
or it'd stay with you forever
trim falcon
Depend how your code works
vocal crypt
I think it was A_Give something?
trim falcon
for better answer as gutawer cause I not sure what is it
yes, when you got something
you will keep it
when you go out from the area
does the inventory got removed or not ?
vocal crypt
Honestly I don't know
Oh wait
A_RadiusGive
does that mean in a radius it gives x
or it gives x only in that radius specified?
trim falcon
int A_RadiusGive (str item, float distance, int flags [, int amount])
radius is distance
vocal crypt
A_RadiusGive("DummyBombInvent",64.0,RGF_PLAYERS)
trim falcon
RGF_PLAYERS is suppose to be an amount
A_RadiusGive("Health", 96, RGF_PLAYERS, 5)
in other words you using it wrong
royal wave
I want to use ZScript but the wiki has no information on how it's supposed to implemented
trim falcon
take a look at d4d code
royal wave
:/
trim falcon
/:
torn timber
it runs on magic
royal wave
and I don't see anything in the D4D that would point to it being ZScript
there is no documentation on how to implement this, just fuckton of confusing tutorials
trim falcon
learn slowly
royal wave
:I
I'm fluent in OOL
ANd there is nothing on how I'm supposed to stick this in my mod
and how to tell ZDoom that it's zscript
torn timber
torn timber
I'd guess it just goes in with the Decorate stuff
torn timber
I say that because it says they can be combined
royal wave
that doesn't tell me anything other than they can communicate with each other like sndinfo can work with decorate
torn timber
so it can be in whatever text files you load with a DECORATE lump
royal wave
it goes in the decorate lump. OKAY
torn timber
like I'll usually separate my actors or groups of actors into their own separate text files like "SomeActor1.txt", and then in a DECORATE lump, have it load all the separate ones together:
#include "actors/SomeActor2.txt"
#include "actors/SomeActor3.txt"```
And that'll pretty much what'll be in the DECORATE lump, no actual actors defined there, just as a way to sort itI'm not trying to implement an actor here
vocal crypt
"Good Lord. What are you doing?"
trim falcon
go to sleep
vocal crypt
When you do
royal wave
and there's no explanation to have a script call every time a map starts
why does the wiki not have anything simple
can we not treat doom mods like everyone has been on the scene the whole 23 years
royal wave
are you telling me you'd do that
royal wave
Then you can do that
haughty flower
What's the problem
trim falcon
but I promise I will make a zscript tutorial one day
royal wave
Well when you get to that, I'll be sure to ask you for help
haughty flower
What the fook is zscript btw
trim falcon
a DECORATE but better
vocal crypt
New DECORATE
haughty flower
Oh
unreal oyster
@royal wave ZScript goes in a lump called ZSCRIPT
it can be #includeed just like DECORATE
as for documentation - best way to learn is ask, tbh
i've learnt the ropes of ZScript just by asking people who know
royal wave
How to fly as demonstration man
unreal oyster
lmao
royal wave
How to crab dance as tuxedo terrorist
royal wave
How not to be seen
haughty flower
so, how does ZScript work, and where can i find it?
shadow bone
haughty flower
thanks
shadow bone
All the (sparse) documentation is there
The rest must be gained by asking the sages
To my understanding, it's "like DECORATE" in most regards if you're just doing simple things
haughty flower
what's better to use at this point
shadow bone
Someone told me ZSCript is pretty much feature-complete
So probably start learning that
DECORATE isn't going away, but it won't be expanded any further
haughty flower
ah
unreal oyster
ZScript isn't feature-complete i don't think, unless you can access the map data yet?
shadow bone
Well, feature-complete as far as DECORATE is concerned
Map and UI hooks are next I believe
But I actually don't know much
I haven't used it for anything yet
shadow bone
Things can call scripts with ACS_Execute and related commands
vocal crypt
is ACS_Execute DECORATE or is it what it says on the tin
shadow bone
You can use it in DEOCRATE like an action special. It executes an ACS script on that frame.
shadow bone
If it's in [] brackets it's optional. Or just set it to 0 for "current map"
vocal crypt
now I gotta figure out how to make the bomb not plant if you don't have the dummy item the bombsite gives you
vocal crypt
what's inventorytype?
(Looking on ZDoom wiki)
infact, does this code even work with my intention.
TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory ("DummyBombInvent",0)
er
I think I need an example of how JumpIfInventory works
shadow bone
The first parameter is the item to check. If the check indicates at least the amount of the second parameter, it jumps to the state name or offset given by the third parameter
There's an example right there on the page
shadow bone
Probably. You also need a state label to jump to
Like in the example given:
TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("Shell", 1, "ReloadLoop")
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TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("run", 1, "Run")
PLAY J 6
TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("run", 1, "Run")
PLAY K 6
TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("run", 1, "Run")
PLAY L 6
TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("run", 1, "Run")
PLAY M 6
TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("run", 1, "Run")
PLAY N 6
TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("run", 1, "Run")
PLAY O 6
TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("run", 1, "Run")
PLAY P 6
TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("run", 1, "Run")
PLAY Q 6
TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("run", 1, "Run")
PLAY R 6
TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("run", 1, "Run")```most dirty code ever
shadow bone
And that, children, is why anonymous functions were invented.
trim falcon
can you simplified my code ?
shadow bone
PLAY IJKLMNOPQR 6 A_JumpIfInventory("run",1,"Run)
also, does the number work with 0? Incase you don't have the dummy bombinvent item?
in a_jumpifinventory
trim falcon
wait that works ?
shadow bone
It's worked like that for over a decade
trim falcon
i see
shadow bone
You would have to split another action onto a separate line
But anything where you share the same duration and action function for sequential frames can be condensed
You don't need TNT1 A 0 to do actions
trim falcon
kk
shadow bone
It's just convenient shorthand for invisible, instant action
The reason it's used is for situations where the same frame needs multiepl actions
vocal crypt
something is wrong here.
shadow bone
POSS A 1 A_Look
TNT1 A 0 CallACS(something)
TNT1 A 0 A_SpawnItemEX
POSS BCDE 4 A_Look
CLAY A 1 A_Raise
CLAY A 1 A_JumpIfInventory ("DummyBombInvent", 1, "Bombplant")
CLAY A 1 A_JumpIfInventory ("DummyBombInvent", 0, "DoNotBombPlant")
loop
Bombplant:
goto fire
DoNotBombPlant:
TNT1 A 0 ACS_Execute (1)
goto Select```What I'm trying to do: if player doesn't have DBI, it executes the ACS script and goes back to select. If player does have DBI, it should plant the bomb.
I forgot to copy goto select after ACS_Execute
shadow bone
A state needs at least one frame. If your Bombplant state is just going to Fire, have the Juimp just go straight to Fire
LAY A 1 A_JumpIfInventory ("DummyBombInvent", 1, "Fire")
Save a step
shadow bone
Not jump? yo're just looping select with a script if the player doesn't have it, right?
vocal crypt
I guess.
shadow bone
Select:
CLAY A 1 A_Raise
CLAY A 1 A_JumpIfInventory ("DummyBombInvent", 1, "Fire")
CLAY A 1 ACS_Execute(1)
loop
Save yourself those extra states
They're superflous
By the way, I'm not sure you should be doing this in Select
Select is just the "raise weapon" animation
vocal crypt
Apparently I'm wanting my ACS script to run when player presses the mouse when he doesn't have DBI
shadow bone
Ready is the main logic loop after the weapon is raised
Fire is when the player presses the mouse
So
Select:
CLAY A 1 A_Raise //This loops the "raise weapon" animation until it's complete
Loop
Ready:
CLAY A 1 A_WeaponReady //Wait for the player to press the mouse
CLAY A 1 ACS_Execute(1) //your script
Loop
Fire:
CLAY A 1 A_JumpIfInventory ("DummyBombInvent", 1, "Plant")
Goto Ready
Plant:
CLAY A 1 A_SpawnItemEX ("bomb" or whatever)
//go back to the last weapon or whatever after the bomb is planted
I want it to execute a ACS script if the playa doesn't have DBI tho.
shadow bone
then move the excute script after the jump check in Fire
It'll jump away if they have the inventory item, or continue after the jump if not
Fire:
CLAY A 1 A_JumpIfInventory ("DummyBombInvent", 1, "Plant")
CLAY A 1 ACS_Execute(1) //your script
Goto Ready
make sure nothing was misspelled and no parenthesis are missing, etc
also check colons after state names
vocal crypt
also, interestingly, the weapon I'm modifying has enemy versions of said weapon
oh
I forgot a DeSelect state
wtf?
1 errors during actor postprocessing
nvm I fixed it
Well now the bomb thing works
the only oddity I need to fix is a player having DummyBombInvent when they're around a bombsite
and then we'll probably mvoe on to a currency system
shit, I forgot I got to do other things with the bomb
- Defusal of the bomb for CT's.
- Random person gets said bomb
I don't know the third one
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the third one is everyone become a space program
vocal crypt
no, I think it's trying to make the bombsite remove the dummy inventory bomb item after out of its radius
vocal crypt
{
int targ = random(0, 7);
if (CheckInventory(weapons[targ]))
{
TakeInventory(weapons[targ], 1);
Print(s:"You have dropped a weapon!\ncareless player...");
}
}``` how does this workyou puke green
I mean 10
and targ will become a number between 0 and 7
which is random
after that check inventory
weapons is obviously weapon
and targ is the random number
let's say the RNG god choose 5
the weapon number 5 will be taken away from player
poor careless player
vocal crypt
can it take away non-weapon inventory items tho?
vocal crypt
Yeah, I am using ACS.
script 10 (OPEN)
{
int targ = random(0, 1);
if (CheckInventory(weapons[targ]));
{
TakeInventory(weapons[targ], 1);
}
}```ACS compiler keeps complaining
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no need to use in targ
vocal crypt
um what
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{
if (CheckInventory("DummyBombInvent"));
{
TakeInventory("DummyBombInvent", 1);
}
}```this is enough
haughty flower
Hehe, anybody want to try my new SnapMap
trim falcon
can't do it now
viscid ridge
anyone around?
trim falcon
nope
unreal oyster
@drowsy forum was wondering, is there any ZScript function like ACS's PickActor PICKAF_RETURNTID mode?
i'm trying to do a line-of-sight check from the player
seeing if the player can see an actor
not just any actor too, a specific one
royal wave
How does one actually implement a thinkiterator in zscript?
I need it to a) execute every time a map loads
And b) capable of using variables from acs if necesary
haughty flower
@royal wave couldn't you like, execute script on the player thing?
It's a special thingy
I thik
Think*
royal wave
I don't want the script on the player
trim falcon
asc_exexute script ?
royal wave
I want it on every monster
haughty flower
Oh
haughty flower
You can execute the script on the player
royal wave
No
haughty flower
Oh
haughty flower
Yeah
drowsy forum
@royal wave see bossbrain.txt inside gzdoom.pk3
royal wave
Alright
unreal oyster
uh, bossbrain.txt works by extending Actor though, right?
and mods can't extend Actor
since extend only works on stuff defined in the current mod, correct?
@drowsy forum
unreal oyster
yeah, you've done a good job on the ZScript docs so far
drowsy forum
Thank you. Still much more to cover but...
unreal oyster
yeah. while it's not a problem for me, i can see some people getting a bit confused whenever concepts like structs or enums or pointers get mentioned
of course, it's easy to learn all that if you look at C docs instead of ZScript docs though
royal wave
@drowsy forum Also copying did nothing for me
This doesn't really do what I want
Am i wrong for expecting this to also work like ACS?
drowsy forum
You have to change it of course.
royal wave
Well yes
drowsy forum
Yes you are. ACS and zscript are two entirely different things.
drowsy forum
Now tell me what you're trying to do.
royal wave
Because I need a way to arbitrarily target every monster on a map and alter their stats
drowsy forum
Paste your code.
royal wave
I don't have any
drowsy forum
...
royal wave
because I don't know how I would do that!
drowsy forum
What, paste the code here, or working with zscript?
royal wave
I have no code for what I want to do because I have no idea where to approach this from
I was led to believe zscript was the answer, but it's not
I need a way to arbitrarily target every single monster on the map and alter their stats
unreal oyster
why not just create an actor, spawn it on map start and then use the ThinkerIterator there
drowsy forum
^
unreal oyster
i've managed to grasp it pretty well, in fact i think i'd be able to give you a template for what you want
royal wave
That'd be appreciated
unreal oyster
alright, i'll give it a go
drowsy forum
Class MonsterModifier : Actor
{
Default
{
+NOINTERACTION
+NOSECTOR
+NOBLOCKMAP
+THRUACTORS
}
override void PostBeginPlay()
{
ThinkerIterator it = ThinkerIterator.Create(Actor);
Actor mo;
while (mo = Actor(it.Next()))
{
if (!mo.bISMONSTER || health < 1)
continue;
if (mo.GetClass() == "YourMonsterNameHere")
{
// Do stuff.
}
}
Destroy();
}
}```oh welp, you were faster than me lol
drowsy forum
๐
unreal oyster
otherwise, that was pretty much exactly what i would have done
drowsy forum
@royal wave edit this and just spawn this actor at map start and there you go.
royal wave
alright thank you
unreal oyster
@drowsy forum any idea why this line ```c
other.health = other.health - 100;
i was just fucking around, but is that expected behavior?
drowsy forum
That shouldn't be modifiable. That's a read-only variable which you need to use A_SetHealth with.
unreal oyster
okay, that makes sense but why would that mean it forces the player into chasecam?
drowsy forum
Wait. Are you playing with cameras?
unreal oyster
nope
drowsy forum
Then IDK.
Might want to report it with a full copy/paste of your code or something.
unreal oyster
yeah, i might
i was just adding a small bit to CanCollideWith to hurt the player on collision and that happened
drowsy forum
Use A_SetHealth, that may or may not fix it.
unreal oyster
it does, but still, the chasecam thing seems like unintended behavior
even though it's not a line that should work, better to crash than to randomly switch to chasecam, lol
royal wave
ThinkerIterator it = ThinkerIterator.Create(Actor);
That's causing problems for me
Invalid global identifier 'Actor'```Ahk
royal wave
@drowsy forum do you know what I have to call in zscript to access ACS variables?
drowsy forum
ACS_(Named)ExecuteWithResult.
royal wave
okay cool. Also, do ACS variables get remembered across maps?
drowsy forum
If they're global.
royal wave
so if i say global int foo = 0 it will always be rememvered?
royal wave
I see
royal wave
okay I can't use script/named scripts because they don't support return values
and the functions that do support return, I have no fucking clue how to call them from zscript
unreal oyster
i don't think you can call an ACS function from ZScript
does this have to be done in ACS?
no way you can use a ZScript function?
warped rampart
royal wave
can zscript use global variables and get level info?
warped rampart
Is it just me, or does the title image look too bright?
haughty flower
might
honestly i have no idea
also pyrolex, why didn't you input some code, instead of plain renaming the files to the originals ._.
warped rampart
GZDoom takes the files in the WAD and arranges where they go according to the filenames. I think.
Don't take my word for it.
unreal oyster
i think what he's saying is he's recommending you to use
;zdoomwiki_search mapinfo
edgy grottoBOT
unreal oyster
for the lumps
instead of naming the files so they overwrite
though it really depends what this is for
warped rampart
This is more of a "sister mod," I guess you could say, for the map mod. If you want a new title screen and the DOOM2016 OST, I'll include this in the download.
The reason it's optional is because, obviously, there are people who'll just want a map mod.
unreal oyster
oh, this is for a mapset? definitely use MAPINFO then
it's pretty simple to do, and it prevents problems down the line
instead of calling a music lump D_E1M1 for example so it overwrites, you call it D_WHATEVER and tell MAPINFO where D_WHATEVER shall play
warped rampart
You also have to keep in mind that I'm a beginner.
unreal oyster
yeah i know, which is why i'm recommending MAPINFO instead of the old method ๐
warped rampart
I literally just Googled "how to add music to a pk3 file" and this was the first result. https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=48313
unreal oyster
uh, yeah, and that recommends to use MAPINFO?
warped rampart
This was the tutorial I waas following.
unreal oyster
yeah
the problem with doing that is that now when somebody decides to use a mod which itself replaces music, your music from this wad is going to get overridden
with MAPINFO, the music doesn't have the same name so everything works fine
unreal oyster
i wouldn't be sure myself
@royal wave just to be sure, you were using CallACS or ACS_NamedExecuteWithResult, correct?
unreal oyster
SetResultValue() is ACS though
you don't use return in a script with a result
you use that function
royal wave
okay can I see an example of how I would use that in zscript
unreal oyster
first, tell me exactly what you want to do please
royal wave
From zscript, get a number from acs
it's a simple accessing a different class
am I seriously not being clear?
unreal oyster
yeah sorry i should have been more specific in my questioning
royal wave
I want zscript to grab a variable that was set in ACS
unreal oyster
int myVar = CallACS(ARGS); then
vocal crypt
sorry for butting in here and being off-topic ish, but apparently Zandronum can't run my script
{
if (CheckInventory("DummyBombInvent"));
{
TakeInventory("DummyBombInvent", 1);
print (s: "Thought you could keep it? THINK AGAIN BITCH.");
}
}```because unless Zscript supports some form of static or global, I need to use ACS to have certain numbers remembered
vocal crypt
Zand says unknown script 2.
royal wave
otherwise every time a map starts, it's going to complete forget the numbers I am collecting
royal wave
And i asked for an example!
unreal oyster
the wiki gives an example
vocal crypt
clears throat
royal wave
No this isn't what I am looking for
This isn;t for a single actor
this is for an arbitrary ammount of things
I need to grab this from a larger scale and not per actor
unreal oyster
that shouldn't change the ACS though?
royal wave
so then what does it do?
unreal oyster
well, you were asking about how to return from a script, that's how you do it, if you have more questions i'll help but this seems like a different question
is this for your "setting a property to every actor" thing?
or something different
unreal oyster
ok, so i assume you want to use ACS to get a value to modify an actor with then?
if not then please tell me because it'll help a lot
@vocal crypt sorry for ignoring you lol, just to check, this ACS has been compiled, right?
not just saved
vocal crypt
Teh
royal wave
any sort of trace function I can use in zscript?
unreal oyster
not sure
... wow
just looked into the source code for Unreal Gold
ZScript basically copied UnrealScript in every way it could, huh? ๐
that's a good thing, though
royal wave
They could have taken a page from a fucking modern OOL language
unreal oyster
i mean, ZScript does use a lot of classes
it's quite object-oriented in that regard
though idk, i prefer languages where i'm not using a class for literally anything
so i'm quite happy with ZScript really
royal wave
I said modern OOL
royal wave
just to show I know what I'm talking about
warped rampart
After way too many attempts I finally figured out that the end-level music was D_INTER
royal wave
fuck the code is too long
hang on
that's a script I amde to generate a preview box camera for a video recorder I made that accoutns for scale, zoom, and pan boundaries
warped rampart
when you fuck up the offset
unreal oyster
lmao
oh, i see you are using that logo i made, cool
or an edited version of it i guess
pallid yoke
I need to make a request with the doom builder devs. I need a version of the UI that doesnt burn into my moniter lol
unreal oyster
https://github.com/jewalky/GZDoom-Builder-Bugfix for gzdb stuff ๐
proper shuttle
that is a lot of red
unreal oyster
vocal crypt
tfw a shotgun from Realm667 has secondary fire that's infinite ammo
unreal oyster
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1710862 posted this a few hours ago but i'll just repost it here again
if you want to get into doom mapping, i'd highly recommend joining
drowsy forum
For anyone interested I just farted out a new alpha of D4D.
Dubbed D4T4D4D thanks to @neat oxide for the naming convention.
haughty flower
thats a mouthful
trim falcon
girls with daddy issue creep me out
keen drift
Why?
warped rampart
@drowsy forum This has extremely sparked my interest.
drowsy forum
Great!
Bear in mind it's an alpha mind you.
I'm also working on a massive april fools addon that people can enjoy for it. ๐
You may or may not like the fact that it's... stupidly out of place but coming from me? I can guarantee it's going to be at least somewhat fun. For haters and lovers and neutral goers alike.
warped rampart
I just really like the mod :T
warped rampart
i have awful taste
vocal crypt
Is there some error in the ketchup mod that the creator is lazy to fix?
mostly this error
Expected ',', got 'l'.
BPDL AAAAAAAAA 1 A_FadeOut(0.1)```the one with a bunch of A's is line 544
the one under it is line 545
drowsy forum
shrugs, can't see what the error really is... looks fine here.
steel onyx
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
drowsy forum
clips a few of those A's off and stuffs them in his mouth. He's hungry.
unreal oyster
@drowsy forum any way to get an actor to force an "Actor hits floor" thing in the map? i am having some issues with a script that warps an actor around every tick, and it's ideal for the actor to trigger "actor hits floor" things as it would if it were moved "naturally" (so to speak) into the sector
does ZScript have any way to do this?
torn timber
@vocal crypt That's the exact same issue the latest version of Brutal Doom has with the A_FadeOut(0.l) needing to be changed to 0.1, make sure the text in the DECORATE isn't actually an 'L'
it's not GZDoom
That's the BD patch
I guess it just ended up happening to the Ketchup pk3 too
torn timber
and yet it still gives a got 'l'. error?
you aren't running any similar files in a "skins" folder or anything right, or have something else autoloaded?
vocal crypt
it says the file that has that error is ketchup.pk3
torn timber
Are you running it with anything else or just by itself?
vocal crypt
running it with other mods, mostly Colorfull Hell, Map of Chaos, and Combined Arms.
torn timber
I'm downloading the Ketchup file now
oh wait
I see you're using 0.5
err
V5
there's a V5.1 out
maybe that'll fix your issue
vocal crypt
question is: where do I download it
torn timber
no, look in the description
vocal crypt
wait
vocal crypt
um, apparently that is the ketchup version I'm using
torn timber
now why would they do that
geez
guess try it with this one anyway
it might be a small update
BPDL AAAAAAAAA 1 A_FadeOut(0.l)
That's definately an l
'L'
0.l 0.1
haughty flower
keep in mind that there is 2 lines with that typo
torn timber
yeah
vocal crypt
line 544 and line 545?
haughty flower
the second one is correct
haughty flower
even the blood only one also has it at the same lines
haughty flower
it is
vocal crypt
Expected ',', got 'l'.
It's rediculous how an 'L' could be typed out instead of a 1 on a keyboard
haughty flower
yup patch it
vocal crypt
it can be due to the font SLADE 3 uses (assuming SGT Mark IV uses Slade)
...except I did
haughty flower
could be
torn timber
yeah, but they're all the way across from each other on the keyboard
torn timber
even on a dvorak keyboard it'd still be far away
warped rampart
PSA: Cancelling the map port. I feel like a HUD mod would be much more manageable for me.
trim falcon
what ?
warped rampart
I was gonna port the maps from DOOM2016 into Classic Doom, but now I actually realize the scope of the project.
drowsy forum
I find it rather odd how working on three different mods, switching off between each day, helps me keep my sanity rather versus just working on one and growing to hate it.
Sure it slows me down but I gues maybe that's because it helps me refreshen my creativity some.
pearl sundial
good job
drowsy forum
I did that for the entire second half of the year, last year.
All of us burned the fuck out.
That's one of the big reasons why DBT dropped D4D.
trim falcon
But as time goes by, you start to lost interest on your own mod
drowsy forum
Only because I've been focusing on nothing OTHER than it.
I have not lost interest in any of them because I took breaks.
I lose interest when I'm forced to work on the same shit over. And over. and OVER.
ESPECIALLY in a motherfucking time crunch.
You don't know what it was like doing that shit, @trim falcon. You've not a clue what D4D's dev cycle was. Not even remotely.
@neat oxide can back me up.
trim falcon
have you ever face a conflict of interest ?
when multiple people working on same project
some of the team might disagree on something
trim falcon
I see
drowsy forum
But that had little impact.
And now, I find working on three different mods at once to be... relaxing.
I dont know why. But it feels good. And I"m not losing interest at all. In fact it's motivating me to put something else and fresh into the next mod by keeping on working at it and swapping.
Also it's easy enough to pick right back up again.
drowsy forum
It doesn't hurt to start side mods and switch every day like I do. Just don't bite off more than you can chew. While AEoD is still being worked on, it's a lot slower than D4D and another unannounced project.
trim falcon
I got a hard disk crash
not really a crash but more like the connector broken
So its impossible to recover
if I make Just do it .wad
do you guys think its offensive ?
drowsy forum
No idea what that even is.
trim falcon
google do it.wad