#classic-doom-maps-mods | DOOM | Page 39

unreal oyster Jan 9, 2017, 5:20 AM

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Radius_Quake is what you'd use

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For quakes

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Or Radius_Quake2

pallid yoke Jan 9, 2017, 5:21 AM

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will it be able to play a sound by default?

pallid yoke Jan 9, 2017, 5:41 AM

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no sound but it still works ok. 😄

hoary tulip Jan 9, 2017, 11:45 PM

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If(GetPlayerInput(MODINPUT_BUTTONS,AAPTR_PLAYER1)&BT_ALTATTACK)

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Hmm

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Is there a pointer to the player for inventory/weapons?

hoary tulip Jan 10, 2017, 12:05 AM

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nvm found it

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now the problem is BT_ALTATTACK

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this is meant to go on a custom function for weapons

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so I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to make it variable

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so it isn't limited to being used on alt fire

vivid forum Jan 10, 2017, 2:15 AM

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Other than just adding a bunch of extra vertices, how do you stop prboom from rendering long lines with the float/jump visual goof?

haughty flower Jan 10, 2017, 1:50 PM

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Any Zandronum mappers here? I have an issue with midtextures stretching above and below, not sure why as it looks fine both in doom builder and gzdoom. Pic for reference.

📎 Screenshot_Doom_20170110_074549.png

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hold on

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did you unpeg it, or is it a linedef? and not an impassable wall? @haughty flower

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Walkable mid texture

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UDMF

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can i see said linedefs in the map editor plox

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Of course

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oh, it's about the bridge

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i didn't even notice kek

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i don't specialize in zandronum myself

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did you try running it in GZDoom and look what happens with that? might just be because of zandronum's engine

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actually, it's not the mid texture enchanter

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GzDoom it's fine

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Zandronum it fucks up

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What's the issue?

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i might be wrong, but you textured the top

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is there anything at the top?

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or is it just the ceiling

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Just ceiling

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then try removing the top texture

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Alright

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because the mid texture and bottom textures are alright, it's just that zandronum detects the top texture(?) and uses it aswell, thus the fucked up metal wall above the rails

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not sure about this, but the problem might be that

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you can just try i guess

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also, why is the mid offset on.. -564 if i may ask?

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I took it off the top, still the same thing except in one spot.

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hm

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The offset is low because mid textures attach to the ceiling

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oh yeah

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I'll try with a different texture and see if that helps.

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wait so you say GZDoom is fine?

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yeah you did, maybe it's just a zandronum issue

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Someone else mentioned that, I'll go there and ask.

unreal oyster Jan 10, 2017, 3:34 PM

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@haughty flower do you use software renderer with zandronum by chance?

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Mid texes are weird in software

royal wave Jan 10, 2017, 3:41 PM

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Could just use the bridge actor if you need collision on a wall

haughty flower Jan 10, 2017, 8:45 PM

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No, OpenGL, and it's for aesthetics not just to have collision. I'm remaking Heatwave from DOOM 2016 for a mod.

unreal oyster Jan 10, 2017, 8:48 PM

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okay it's likely a zando thing then

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it's just that mid texes render weirdly in software

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sometimes taking priority above the floor and ceiling in the render method

full stratus Jan 10, 2017, 10:07 PM

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No idea whether this has been posted here yet, or if this is even the right place, but this whole thing is amazing: https://youtu.be/jTxV8E8DbsA

YouTube

Skelegant

Yoshikage Kira vs Hell v3

▶ Play video

vocal crypt Jan 10, 2017, 10:41 PM

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Welp now my titlemap's got problems

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GZDoom Builder is whining about GLDEFS warnings, most of which is decorate class does not exist

haughty flower Jan 10, 2017, 10:59 PM

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I ended up fixing the issue, apparently zandronum doesn't like sector fog with fog density.

haughty flower Jan 11, 2017, 1:46 AM

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https://youtu.be/vj42yXHGTd0

YouTube

[VGP] MrEnchanter

D4T: Heatwave

▶ Play video

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me likey

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it doesnt seem to have the same physics model but that is a cool wip

haughty flower Jan 11, 2017, 2:06 AM

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Yeah, classic doom seems to be less heavy if that makes sense.

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Like MK9 compared to MKX, the players have more weight.

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Had to compensate for lack of ledge grab as well.

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Small details.

hoary tulip Jan 11, 2017, 2:23 AM

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Implemented the first weapon mod

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warped rampart Jan 11, 2017, 2:23 AM

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I'm still trying to figure out how to make an elevator so that the end on the far isn't some cheesy improvisation of trying to go from the UAC to Mars.

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hoary tulip Jan 11, 2017, 2:23 AM

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giving players the scope at the start of the game was a missed opportunity, raven

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what do you mean by elevator?

warped rampart Jan 11, 2017, 2:25 AM

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That little circle-ish thing at the far right is supposed to be the UAC Facility-to-Mars elevator in DOOM's intro, but I haven't been able to figure out how to make a platform go up and down, like an elevator in the classic Doom games.

hoary tulip Jan 11, 2017, 2:26 AM

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sounds annoying

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not sure how to do it myself

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you'd need a script to move both the floor and the ceiling at the same time

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/FloorAndCeiling_RaiseByValue

FloorAndCeiling RaiseByValue

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            {
                If(GetCVar("q4ae_machinegunmod")==1)
                {
                    Return ResolveState("Fire.Scoped");
                }
                Else
                {
                    A_PlaySound("Weapons/Machinegun/Fire",CHAN_WEAPON);
                    A_GunFlash("Flash");
                    A_AlertMonsters();
                    A_FireBullets(0,0,1,5,"BulletPuff");
                    Return ResolveState(Null);
                }
            }

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There's probably a better way to do this

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but i don't care about good coding practices anymore

pallid yoke Jan 11, 2017, 3:01 AM

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is there a way to darken the HUD in GZDoom Builder so its not burning in my moniter so much?

haughty flower Jan 11, 2017, 3:45 AM

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Probably

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I think you can set colors for stuff

haughty flower Jan 11, 2017, 10:00 AM

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@warped rampart udmf, 3D floor. Then raise floor and ceiling for the dummy sector

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@hoary tulip that's the way of doing it, instead of making some kinda still crappy looking "platform"
Your idea was alright but it still doesn't look well

haughty flower Jan 11, 2017, 1:36 PM

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@warped rampart UDMF is like, a format which uses stuff like dynamic lighting, 3D floors and such

warped rampart Jan 11, 2017, 5:33 PM

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SO UH for my DOOM port I had a couple of logo designs for the title screen and I wanted to know which you guys would think is better.

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Design A

📎 classicmodern3.png

plush sapphire Jan 11, 2017, 5:33 PM

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Vega is super strict

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Just give like 10 seconds or something between'em.

warped rampart Jan 11, 2017, 5:33 PM

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Design B

📎 classicmodern2.png

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The most popular one is A, both logo s are based off of two variations of the classic Doom logo -- the title screen (orange and blue) and cover/promo art (grey and orange)

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So, which do you guys like more: A or B?

plush sapphire Jan 11, 2017, 5:36 PM

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I prefer the color scheme of B. But it's rather flat and boring imo.

royal wave Jan 11, 2017, 5:38 PM

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I agree. Give it an outline bevel

unreal oyster Jan 11, 2017, 5:39 PM

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outline bevel, plus it needs some texturing to it

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make it look rough, for example

royal wave Jan 11, 2017, 5:40 PM

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No it can stay flat in that regard

warped rampart Jan 11, 2017, 5:40 PM

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I thought about sort of using the variation of the new DOOM's logo that looks damaged and sort of applying those damage marks to the logo I made for the WAD.

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This one. http://doom.com/assets/imgs/logo.png

unreal oyster Jan 11, 2017, 5:44 PM

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yea

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that's pretty trivial with PS

plush sapphire Jan 11, 2017, 5:48 PM

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@warped rampart

📎 Fixed.jpg

haughty flower Jan 11, 2017, 5:49 PM

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cool

plush sapphire Jan 11, 2017, 5:51 PM

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My magic involved OBS believe it or not.

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I know nothing of Photoshop, and I didn't want to load up Medibang when I could produce the effects faster the way I did it. Not because of program limitations, but because I know how to do shit the hard way far better.

royal wave Jan 11, 2017, 6:05 PM

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Get gimp

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It's photoshop

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But free

plush sapphire Jan 11, 2017, 6:05 PM

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I know about it

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I use Medibang

royal wave Jan 11, 2017, 6:05 PM

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Get it

plush sapphire Jan 11, 2017, 6:05 PM

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Nah

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Didn't like it

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Too much like Photoshop

royal wave Jan 11, 2017, 6:05 PM

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You disgust me

tawny lion Jan 11, 2017, 6:05 PM

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GIMP is good

plush sapphire Jan 11, 2017, 6:05 PM

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I know

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I'm not saying it's bad.

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It just isn't what I need.

tawny lion Jan 11, 2017, 6:05 PM

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@royal wave - Today at 10:05 PM from #classic-doom-maps-mods

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@plush sapphire then use MS paint

plush sapphire Jan 11, 2017, 6:06 PM

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I do sometimes

tawny lion Jan 11, 2017, 6:06 PM

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10/10

plush sapphire Jan 11, 2017, 6:06 PM

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Actually

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Hang on

unreal oyster Jan 11, 2017, 6:06 PM

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i own photoshop and still use ms paint lol

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it loads faster

tawny lion Jan 11, 2017, 6:06 PM

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^

unreal oyster Jan 11, 2017, 6:06 PM

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so if i need to make a quick crude diagram it works

tawny lion Jan 11, 2017, 6:06 PM

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GIMP has slow loading too

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yep

plush sapphire Jan 11, 2017, 6:07 PM

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It's a work in progress, but this is all MSPaint lol

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tawny lion Jan 11, 2017, 6:07 PM

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What the fuuuck

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denying Photoshop and Gimp

haughty flower Jan 11, 2017, 6:08 PM

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actually mspaint is best for pixel art

unreal oyster Jan 11, 2017, 6:08 PM

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well, all MS paint + the assets from various retro games which were likely not made in paint 😛

plush sapphire Jan 11, 2017, 6:08 PM

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They were altered in it.

tawny lion Jan 11, 2017, 6:08 PM

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R O A S T E D

plush sapphire Jan 11, 2017, 6:08 PM

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Or replicated from scratch

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Depends on which piece.

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This is like 60 hours of pixel editing.

unreal oyster Jan 11, 2017, 6:09 PM

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@haughty flower nothing is best for pixel art

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it's just whatever the user prefers

haughty flower Jan 11, 2017, 6:09 PM

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that is to be expected

plush sapphire Jan 11, 2017, 6:09 PM

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And now that I found Medibang... I'll probably use it for my pixel work when I pick that project back up.

tawny lion Jan 11, 2017, 6:10 PM

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Any GIMP plugin suggestions?

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for quick editing and shit

unreal oyster Jan 11, 2017, 6:10 PM

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my friends all use Aseprite for pixel art

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i don't think any of them would use paint, lol

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but it's down to the user

plush sapphire Jan 11, 2017, 6:10 PM

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Exactly. I just go with what I can figure out lol.

unreal oyster Jan 11, 2017, 6:10 PM

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when it comes down to it, a good artist can do good work in any tool

plush sapphire Jan 11, 2017, 6:10 PM

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And somehow Photoshop just eludes me even though Medibang is incredibly similar...

tawny lion Jan 11, 2017, 6:11 PM

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GIMP too

plush sapphire Jan 11, 2017, 6:11 PM

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Like I can use, but I fail to perform simple tasks with it.

unreal oyster Jan 11, 2017, 7:24 PM

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http://mantis.zdoom.org/view_all_bug_page.php?project_id=0

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zdoom bug/feature suggestion tracker is now here

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forums won't be used anymore for this

novel isle Jan 11, 2017, 7:53 PM

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fun, e-mails sent from there get their links garbled up x.x

unreal oyster Jan 11, 2017, 7:58 PM

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yeaaa

novel isle Jan 11, 2017, 7:59 PM

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the "&" in the mail links becomes "&" and borks the link even if you try to copy and paste from the mail, so you have to manually change it back

unreal oyster Jan 11, 2017, 8:00 PM

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yea i know

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yahoo mail processed the link fine for me

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but i've seen others have that issue

unreal oyster Jan 11, 2017, 10:41 PM

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wait @hoary tulip you're HazeBandicoot?

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i never knew lol

hoary tulip Jan 11, 2017, 10:41 PM

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Lmao

unreal oyster Jan 11, 2017, 10:42 PM

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i wonder how many people i recognise on zdoom forums who have different usernames here lol

haughty flower Jan 11, 2017, 10:42 PM

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._.

royal wave Jan 11, 2017, 10:43 PM

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Not me :D

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Because you knew me as kevans here and not kevans there

wooden portal Jan 11, 2017, 10:51 PM

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I have the same name but I also rarely post

trim falcon Jan 12, 2017, 12:18 AM

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my name have no color

haughty flower Jan 12, 2017, 12:24 AM

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same here

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and the only forum account i have is zandronum

pallid yoke Jan 12, 2017, 1:22 AM

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How do I change the visual appearance of GZDoom builder?

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Someone mentioned a dark theme

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how do I do that?

trim falcon Jan 12, 2017, 1:24 AM

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sorry I do not know

pallid yoke Jan 12, 2017, 7:04 AM

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https://steemit.com/gaming/@thecastle/i-dont-think-this-is-just-another-doom-level-in-fact-i-believe-its-a-lot-more-than-that

Steemit

I dont think this is just another Doom level for me. — Steemit

So its official, I have added a secret level in my Doom 2 level. Which I think is an interesting statement by itself. by thecastle

trim falcon Jan 12, 2017, 7:16 AM

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what do you mean ?

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self-plagiarism ?

proper shuttle Jan 12, 2017, 4:36 PM

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that's a surprisingly large level

warped rampart Jan 12, 2017, 5:53 PM

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I don't know whether it was a good idea to max out the bevel size or not.

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shadow bone Jan 12, 2017, 5:55 PM

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Imma say probably not.

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I personally don't care for it.

warped rampart Jan 12, 2017, 6:02 PM

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That... actually doesn't look too bad, imo

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haughty flower Jan 12, 2017, 6:04 PM

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~~minecraft~~

unreal oyster Jan 12, 2017, 6:04 PM

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was about to say that

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looks a bit unprofessional tbh

haughty flower Jan 12, 2017, 6:05 PM

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looks cool tho

unreal oyster Jan 12, 2017, 6:05 PM

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@warped rampart mind giving me the source image?

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i'd like to give it a go

warped rampart Jan 12, 2017, 6:05 PM

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@unreal oyster Here you go.

📎 classicmodern3.png

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I think the max-bevel version would do good for a trailer, but that's just me.

unreal oyster Jan 12, 2017, 6:23 PM

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this looks shit but i'm posting it here anyway lol

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maybe a bit of texture work would make it look acceptable, but to do that i'd have to work with photoshop's 3d view

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when i'm much more used to blender

shadow bone Jan 12, 2017, 6:41 PM

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I like that, it's a nice mix of old and new

plush sapphire Jan 12, 2017, 6:44 PM

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I still prefer this one lol. I didn't make it transparent obviously, but it could easily be done.

📎 Fixed.jpg

proper shuttle Jan 12, 2017, 7:22 PM

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what you guys doing with the logo

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is thiis a reddit wad

warped rampart Jan 12, 2017, 7:23 PM

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It's a logo for a Doom WAD I'm working on. It ports the new DOOM's levels into the classic games.

proper shuttle Jan 12, 2017, 7:23 PM

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hm

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i see

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awesome.

warped rampart Jan 12, 2017, 7:28 PM

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ALSO @unreal oyster That looks really good so far. Just some colors need to be added but, again, I love how it looks so far.

unreal oyster Jan 12, 2017, 7:29 PM

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oh. i thought it looked kinda meh, i wasn't really planning to work more on it lol

warped rampart Jan 12, 2017, 7:30 PM

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Think you can post a PNG of it?

unreal oyster Jan 12, 2017, 7:35 PM

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https://0x0.st/fxZ.psd

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have the psd

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i suppose

warped rampart Jan 12, 2017, 7:41 PM

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Alright, thanks.

vocal crypt Jan 12, 2017, 9:36 PM

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I think the orange is too orange

vocal crypt Jan 12, 2017, 10:56 PM

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I've had an idea for a Doom wad, tho I doubt it'd be popular, controversy wise

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Basically Counter Strike doom style

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so

warped rampart Jan 12, 2017, 10:57 PM

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It'd have to be run in Zandronum for multiplayer, so do you mean, like, a map pack?

vocal crypt Jan 12, 2017, 10:57 PM

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I guess

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tho it'd contain guns from Realm667

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then again, the original CS had fan created maps

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so

vocal crypt Jan 12, 2017, 11:49 PM

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what's your guys opinion?

warped rampart Jan 13, 2017, 12:05 AM

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Sounds possible (and fun, might I add).

vocal crypt Jan 13, 2017, 12:26 AM

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I just don't know how "CS" it should be

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just maps with doom weapons and speed

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or just maps with "realistic" guns and "realistic" speed

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 3:32 AM

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controversy?

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uhh

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how would it have controversy?

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its just a mod

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unless you have a history of being a huge asshole to people

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and being unreasonable

vocal crypt Jan 13, 2017, 3:34 AM

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I don't know, maybe it's gonna be what Doom isn't

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in this case, Counter-Strike like

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 3:38 AM

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i dunno

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there are lots of mods that change how doom plays

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but none of its players rave about how it is the right way to play doom

vocal crypt Jan 13, 2017, 3:39 AM

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Brutal Doom got slack for making it "COD-like"

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 3:40 AM

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no

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 3:40 AM

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COD-like? nah

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 3:40 AM

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it got flak for the folks saying it its the right way to play doom today and because the modder told a person to go kill itself

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 3:40 AM

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both those things are abundantly incorrect

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 3:40 AM

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oh, is that so?

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do tell me.

unreal oyster Jan 13, 2017, 3:41 AM

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not incorrect lol, he did literally send someone instructions on how to kill themselves

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not exactly the same as telling someone to kill themselves

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but at that point

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 3:41 AM

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it is very close to it

unreal oyster Jan 13, 2017, 3:41 AM

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it's just implicit vs explicit

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 3:41 AM

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said person was suicidal by the way

vocal crypt Jan 13, 2017, 3:42 AM

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Either way, it's multiplayer only probably (It is CS-like)

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 3:42 AM

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its simplistic enough to work on a sp standpoint

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 3:48 AM

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i've never played brutal doom deathmatch

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i should try it

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 3:49 AM

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it is horribly violent

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possibly very buggy

vocal crypt Jan 13, 2017, 3:50 AM

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potato pcs=down the trash

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just like the over detailed DM maps

warped rampart Jan 13, 2017, 4:31 AM

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Brutal Doom 4 Weapons is buggy with Doom I.

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Any weapon that can be dual-wielded has the normal sprite, and it looks weird when dual-wielding those weapons.

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You've got a hand sprouting from your chest holding a gun and a left hand holding the same gun.

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:25 AM

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20170112_235710.png

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 6:26 AM

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it was going to be buggy

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:27 AM

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you think?

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 6:32 AM

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rushed as it was

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@haughty flower looks cool

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reminds me of quake

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:33 AM

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ever played doom 2016 online?

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it does certainly has a quake 3 vibe to it

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:34 AM

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That's how I described it when I played the Alpha

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:34 AM

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same here

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:34 AM

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You miss the old announcer voice? because I do

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:34 AM

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i mean it seill has it in some shapr of form?

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the beta vega was nice too

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the one we have put too much enthesis

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:35 AM

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they should have kept that separate

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it felt like hell tech

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:35 AM

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like how in zandronum and dota 2 you can change the announcer

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:35 AM

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my main issue with Doom multiplayer is there's no skill

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well, yes, there's "skill"

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:35 AM

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its not how quake works

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the closest thing we have to quake right now is overwatch

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easy to pick up and play but hard to master

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:36 AM

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but I'm going to draw a comparison to TF2. There's a learning curve and many different styles of gameplay past "point and shoot"

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:36 AM

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Overwatch is fun.

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:36 AM

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haven't played it yet

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waiting for some hype to die down and see where it goes in the long run

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:37 AM

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Much much better than TF2

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:37 AM

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debatable

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:37 AM

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the reason why i wont play it isnt how the pc fanbase plays it

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its the ps4 side of it

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:37 AM

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but I'm worried it's going to go down the road of TF2

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:37 AM

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and i am now public enemy number one to them

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:37 AM

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There's only so long you can keep the game running off of skins and maps

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Mark my words. They will add some for of training, higher tiered cosmetics, and alternative weapons

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and at that point the argument will no longer be which game is better, but which developer you support more

trim falcon Jan 13, 2017, 6:38 AM

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MOOOO!

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what happens ?

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:39 AM

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it's not TF2 with a fresh coat of paint. It's a class based game with a TF2 coat of paint

trim falcon Jan 13, 2017, 6:39 AM

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in TF2

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no one playing seriously

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:39 AM

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You're not getting what I'm saying

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I'm not talking about the players

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:39 AM

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i mean blizzars is good in its own right mainly for rts and dungeon crawlers and epic was a totally different beast to me but the main 3 for me are id, apogee, and valve

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:39 AM

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Not talking about the gameplay

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I'm talking about where the devs will take it

trim falcon Jan 13, 2017, 6:40 AM

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I don't like blizzard

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they make me an addict

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:40 AM

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No game out there is a game that people "take completely seriously no fun allowed"

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TF2 has as very dedicated comp scene

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:40 AM

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what you missed @trim falcon is Nintendo just blew up the entire gaming community

trim falcon Jan 13, 2017, 6:40 AM

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you mean switch ?

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:40 AM

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yup

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:40 AM

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not me

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:40 AM

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whys that

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:41 AM

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Well one, I'm primarily PC

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:41 AM

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same here

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:41 AM

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Two, console games have very few titles I enjoy

trim falcon Jan 13, 2017, 6:41 AM

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can I play doom on switch

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:41 AM

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same for me

trim falcon Jan 13, 2017, 6:41 AM

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and I heard rockstar don't like nintendo

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:41 AM

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@trim falcon that wasnt announced

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:41 AM

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That doesn't mean I'm above buying a console, I have in the past and probably will again

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:41 AM

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and no rockstar does

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its mainly rockstar north

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:41 AM

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Which brings me to point Three: It doesn't have any games i want

trim falcon Jan 13, 2017, 6:41 AM

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so gta will be on switch ?

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:42 AM

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the creators of lemmings and grand theft auto

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@trim falcon No.

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:42 AM

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Switch is a glorified Nvidia shield

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:42 AM

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thats where you have it wrong

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:42 AM

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It runs on tegra hardware

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:42 AM

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so?

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:42 AM

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how am I wrong

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 6:43 AM

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Blizzard is incapable of balancing their games

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:43 AM

#

^

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 6:43 AM

#

switch has good software

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:43 AM

#

i said the same thing with phantasy star online

trim falcon Jan 13, 2017, 6:43 AM

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hearthstone e sport is a joke

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RNG FTW

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 6:43 AM

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unlike the shield

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:43 AM

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everything is grindy hard but the drop rate sucks

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:44 AM

#

Hearthstone being a bad balancing act isn't a result of poor game design, it's actually something fundamental in the roots of turn based games

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 6:44 AM

#

but anyways i am looking up to that doom 2016 demake

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:44 AM

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRHdIScOMWQ

YouTube

Extra Credits

Extra Credits - First Move Advantage - How to Balance Turn-Based...

▶ Play video

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this isn't really a fault of blizzard

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it's just stupidly hard to fix

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 6:45 AM

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is it

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:45 AM

#

yes

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watch the video

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 6:46 AM

#

they made HS

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:46 AM

#

omg

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Holy fuck what did I just say

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It's not blizzard, it's a fundamental thing with turn based games

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 6:47 AM

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also this was a EC video during their league bender

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i know where it is headed

trim falcon Jan 13, 2017, 6:49 AM

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Play atlas reactor

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game is silmutaneous turn based

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which mean you and your opponent both moving in the same time

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most important

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NO RNG

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 6:51 AM

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make your turns simultaneously

trim falcon Jan 13, 2017, 6:51 AM

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you move the same time as your opponent

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 6:51 AM

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heroes of might and magic did it fine

plush sapphire Jan 13, 2017, 6:51 AM

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Sounds like fancy rock paper scissors.

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 6:51 AM

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we solved it an decade ago

trim falcon Jan 13, 2017, 6:52 AM

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yes something like rock paper scissor

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you got attack, evade and special move

plush sapphire Jan 13, 2017, 6:52 AM

#

Also, what's this all got to do with mapping or modding?

trim falcon Jan 13, 2017, 6:52 AM

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each move have cool down

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so you need to predict your opponent movement

proper shuttle Jan 13, 2017, 6:53 AM

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no idea

royal wave Jan 13, 2017, 6:54 AM

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What are you, a mod?

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Oh wait that's my job... fuck

#

Move it along people to... fuck

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#general

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that'll work

trim falcon Jan 13, 2017, 6:54 AM

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emm kay

vocal crypt Jan 13, 2017, 9:36 PM

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anyway to create a new class?

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 9:36 PM

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a new class, as in?

vocal crypt Jan 13, 2017, 9:36 PM

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The class you'd select if you click/press enter on new game that's before the skill select

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Some ZDoom feature IIRC

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 9:37 PM

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found it

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/Classes:DoomPlayer you could make it replace the normal doomplayer

Classes:DoomPlayer

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or you have to edit mapinfo i think

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or gameinfo, can't remember

#

AAAH VEGA PLEASE

vocal crypt Jan 13, 2017, 9:38 PM

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Vega doesn't like spam eh?

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 9:38 PM

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/Creating_new_player_classes like i said

Creating new player classes

vocal crypt Jan 13, 2017, 9:41 PM

#

Welp, time to hit SLADE

#

punches Slade with beserk pack

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 9:41 PM

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yep, that's something you'd need

#

o

vocal crypt Jan 13, 2017, 9:42 PM

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does a MAPINFO start with map <maplump> <nice name> {properties} first?

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well now I'm getting this gameinfo definitions not supported with old MAPINFO syntax

vocal crypt Jan 13, 2017, 10:16 PM

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still needing help with such

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 10:23 PM

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uh no

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it doesn't

#

you literally just code whatever you need

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no need to start with anything @vocal crypt

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{
   PlayerClasses = "MyPlayer"
}``` that's the only thing you'll need for playerclasses

vocal crypt Jan 13, 2017, 10:25 PM

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well apparently using that makes GZdoom say no such property, but starts the game anyway

#

(Yes, I've updated GZDoom)

vocal crypt Jan 13, 2017, 11:14 PM

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well I managed to load the wad with said mapinfo without crashing

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but the class menu ain't appearin

haughty flower Jan 13, 2017, 11:24 PM

#

Oh

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 2:15 AM

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Still needing help on class making in GZDoom

hoary tulip Jan 14, 2017, 2:17 AM

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GameInfo
{
PlayerClasses = "Your", "Player", "Classes"
}

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that goes into MapInfo

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 2:18 AM

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I think I tried that, but they weren't selectable

hoary tulip Jan 14, 2017, 2:20 AM

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you did something wrong

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 2:28 AM

#

{
   PlayerClasses = "MyPlayer", "DoomPlayer"
}``` what I got so far

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and I got a fatal error in GZDoom ```Unexpected '...' in definition of 'MyPlayer'

hoary tulip Jan 14, 2017, 2:31 AM

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look closely towards my code

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in specific

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the very first line

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 2:31 AM

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Jesus christ am I dumbass.

hoary tulip Jan 14, 2017, 2:31 AM

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but your problem isn't mapinfo

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it's badly written decorate

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why do you have "..." in the MyPlayer decorate?

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 2:32 AM

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...copied it from the Zdoom wiki

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which at this point I have a 50/50 relationship with

hoary tulip Jan 14, 2017, 2:33 AM

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applying a bit of common sense, i suppose the ... was meant to quickly end an example

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not meant for people to just copy it

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 2:34 AM

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well I guess something affected my thinking

#

maybe my sickness

#

or my tiredness

#

but anyway, I got the classes working

#

Now I need to fix the name.

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 2:56 AM

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Any way to add "new" sprites to a class?

#

or make certain sprites to a specific class?

pallid yoke Jan 14, 2017, 3:27 AM

#

Anyone know of a way to toggle off torches in ACS script?

#

short red fire sticks

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:28 AM

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seems to be inactive here

pallid yoke Jan 14, 2017, 3:28 AM

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Its kind of off and on

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:30 AM

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I think you can force actors to go into a state

#

You'll need to make a specific off state for the actor in question

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Then in acs tell it to go there

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:31 AM

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what about my "deal" Kevan

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:31 AM

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Deal?

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:31 AM

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or rathr

#

*rather

#

my "problem"

#

the last question I had

#

Mod wise

#

er

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:31 AM

#

Yes

#

You need to make an actor

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:32 AM

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for the class?

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:32 AM

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And have it inherent and replace the actor

#

Yes

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:32 AM

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I have done that

#

I meant the sprite question

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:32 AM

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When I say actor, I mean class in the sense of doom

#

Yes. So you know how you can override states when you inherent and or replace?

#

Do the same thing there

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:33 AM

#

Um what.

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:33 AM

#

Okay so you know what I mean by inherent and replace an actor, right?

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:33 AM

#

inherent is basically a form of "copy" right?

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:34 AM

#

Right

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:34 AM

#

replacing an actor is basically what it says on the tin, right?

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:34 AM

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Right

#

So when you want to tweak a default actor, you inherit and replace

#

For example

#

{

}```

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:35 AM

#

What about the sprites though.

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:36 AM

#

I'm getting to that

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:36 AM

#

sorry

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:36 AM

#

You need to understand a few things is all

#

So what you'll get there is that every imp in the game will be replaces with MyDoomImp

#

But because it inherits from the doomimp actor, it will behave exactly the same as a regular imp

#

So when you want to change a state, on in your case add sprites, you need to override the state

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:38 AM

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so override Spawn: PLAY A -1 Loop?

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:38 AM

#

Yeah exactly!

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:38 AM

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Except the sprites I want to override A have GSOL in the name

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:38 AM

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Doesn't matter. You use the names of the sprites you want to use

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So if your sprites are named "poop", it will play the sprites labeled "poop" as you've presented them

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:39 AM

#

Except the see thing says See: PLAY ABCD 4 Loop

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:39 AM

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Okay

#

The first four letters are the sprites name

#

The next letters are the frames

#

A, B, C, D are all individual frames

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:40 AM

#

so it would go like PLAY GSOLAGSOLBGSOLCGSOLD 4?

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Or is that too long?

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:40 AM

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No

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:40 AM

#

Oh

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:40 AM

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PLAY is the sprite name

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:41 AM

#

Oh

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:41 AM

#

PLAYA

#

PLAYB

#

PLAYC

#

PLAYD

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:41 AM

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Oh I think I get it.

#

Well the GSOL sprites apparently make the doomguy crouch

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:42 AM

#

Right

#

So it would look something like this

#

GSOL ABCD 2

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:42 AM

#

What's the number?

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:43 AM

#

Number of ticks the frame lasts

#

So frame A lasts 2 tics, Frame B, C, D, and every other frame you list after that

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:45 AM

#

except it seems it's the wrong GSOL sprites

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:45 AM

#

Then see how another mod implements them

#

That's usually best

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:46 AM

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Because in the class selection it's doomguy crouching and dissapearing for like one frame

#

in game chase cam it's invisible

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:46 AM

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Then you might not have them in your wad

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:46 AM

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I have the sprites in said wad

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unless you mean IWAD

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:46 AM

#

Are they aligned correctly

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:47 AM

#

aligned correctly?

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:47 AM

#

Do you have Slade installed?

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:47 AM

#

yes

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That's what I am using

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:47 AM

#

Okay navigate to the sprites

#

And click on them individually

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Or well at least one of them

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:48 AM

#

what about the align part

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:48 AM

#

I'm getting to that

#

Can you show me a screenshot of what slade is showing you?

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:49 AM

#

Might be too big for this chat but oh well

📎 Screenshot_118.png

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:49 AM

#

Okay yup exactly as I expected

#

Look at the bottom and click where it says "auto"

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:50 AM

#

it has a drop down, no?

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:50 AM

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Yes

#

Click on "actor"

#

Now see how your sprite is to the bottom right?

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:50 AM

#

Actor?

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:50 AM

#

The drop down

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:50 AM

#

I don't see it in said drop down

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:51 AM

#

What is listed

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:51 AM

#

Auto, Graphic, Sprite, HUD

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:51 AM

#

Sprite

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:51 AM

#

It's in the center

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:51 AM

#

Okay see that cross?

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:51 AM

#

the black lines

#

?

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:51 AM

#

Yes

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:51 AM

#

yeah

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:51 AM

#

That's the sprites center coordinates

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:52 AM

#

which is on the dude's feet.

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:52 AM

#

It is?

#

Try setting them all to sprite.

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:53 AM

#

yeah, it seems all of them have the cetner coordinates on the dudes feet

#

somethin like this

📎 Screenshot_119.png

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:54 AM

#

Can you show your code

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:54 AM

#

the decorate part?

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:55 AM

#

Yes

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:55 AM

#

  {
  Spawn:
    GSOL A -1
    Loop
  See:
    GSOL ABCD 2 
    Loop
  Missile:
    GSOL E 12
    Goto Spawn
  Melee:
    GSOL F 6 BRIGHT
    Goto Missile
  Pain:
    GSOL G 4 
    GSOL G 4 A_Pain
    Goto Spawn
  Death:
    GSOL H 0 A_PlayerSkinCheck("AltSkinDeath")
  Death1:
    GSOL H 10
    GSOL I 10 A_PlayerScream
    GSOL J 10 A_NoBlocking
    GSOL KLM 10
    GSOL N -1
    Stop
  XDeath:
    GSOL O 0 A_PlayerSkinCheck("AltSkinXDeath")
  XDeath1:
    GSOL O 5
    GSOL P 5 A_XScream
    GSOL Q 5 A_NoBlocking
    GSOL RSTUV 5
    GSOL W -1
    Stop
  AltSkinDeath:
    GSOL H 6
    GSOL I 6 A_PlayerScream
    GSOL JK 6
    GSOL L 6 A_NoBlocking
    GSOL MNO 6
    GSOL P -1
    Stop
  AltSkinXDeath:
    GSOL Q 5 A_PlayerScream
    GSOL R 0 A_NoBlocking
    GSOL R 5 A_SkullPop
    GSOL STUVWX 5
    GSOL Y -1
    Stop
  }
}```

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:56 AM

#

And you say the player is invisible during only crouching?

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 3:56 AM

#

He's crouching on the class selection part

#

if you put chase in console command he's invisible

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 3:57 AM

#

Well he doesn't have a chase state

#

Player classes don't have a chase state as they are not controlled by AI

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 4:00 AM

#

so....

#

Also, how does say DoomPlayer have sprites when in Chasecam then

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 4:03 AM

#

Oh that's what you meant

#

Sorry, not sure what's going on here

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 4:04 AM

#

ah crap.

#

you were typing something Kamme?

plush sapphire Jan 14, 2017, 4:15 AM

#

Not intentionally

royal wave Jan 14, 2017, 7:50 AM

#

This was evil and genious at the same time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf1qjn9GjuI#t=4m58s

YouTube

Korendian199

[Doom 2] Sunlust Beta R3 - Map 29 "Go Fuck Yourself" UV-Max

▶ Play video

haughty flower Jan 14, 2017, 9:34 AM

#

guys, how do i edit an texture in slade, like, draw it in a texture lump?

#

nevermind, second question, how would i use an texture from an texture thing?

#

oh, it's listed

#

okay, my questions are automatically answered

#

i just made my texture here, with the name of "BULL" which acts like a bullet. The console says "Bad Numeric Constant: Loop" why so?

📎 unknown.png

#

i fixed that, but the bullets are now invisible

#

i just read the offsets are wrong and the sprite is below the ground

#

so how do i fix that?

#

i just need to know how i could insert a sprite without it messing up

gentle wadi Jan 14, 2017, 1:09 PM

#

@royal wave The moving cover against the enemies in the center?

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 6:52 PM

#

I'm wanting to have sprites for certain classes

haughty flower Jan 14, 2017, 7:35 PM

#

how does zandronum's CustomMissile work

#

it's not like ZDoom's, there's less statements

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 8:47 PM

#

https://puu.sh/tmhKS/48d8e27706.jpg

#

Procedurally generated laser trees in a nutshell.

#

I'm making a darwinia mod.

#

@haughty flower okay what's your issue?

haughty flower Jan 14, 2017, 8:48 PM

#

basically, i want to know what zandronum's version of A_CustomMissile is

#

because it's not like ZDoom's

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 8:48 PM

#

Oh. That I can't help you.

#

I don't do zandronum.

haughty flower Jan 14, 2017, 8:48 PM

#

rip

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 8:49 PM

#

Not until they catch up to gzdoom.

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 8:55 PM

#

What about sprites for a certain class then

#

(Using GZDoom over here)

haughty flower Jan 14, 2017, 8:56 PM

#

you could change them inside decorate

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 8:56 PM

#

I've tried that

#

it makes the said class show doomguy's sprite crouching on the select class screen

#

and if you type chase in console, the sprite is invisible.

haughty flower Jan 14, 2017, 9:00 PM

#

i'm not experienced with sprites myself

#

so i can't help you with that much

#

i just gave you the basic stuff xd

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 10:25 PM

#

@drowsy forum just wondering, how much easier would it be to implement disabling the players weapons in ZScript than in DECORATE?

#

would there even be any difference?

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 10:36 PM

#

Hummm...

#

Good question.

#

ZScript you have a lot more power over. The only problem is, it depends on if you're trying to cross mods, @unreal oyster

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 10:38 PM

#

i'm doing this for Jimmy's mod A Boy and His Barrel which i help with, which is far beyond being compatible with anything, lol

#

nothing is off limits

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 10:40 PM

#

Easiest thing you could do then is similar to how we did it in D4D: Have all weapons inherit from a base class and include an int value in the base class that'll carry down to the subclasses via inheritance. Unless you're trying to do this all from ACS.

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 10:40 PM

#

ACS is preferred but i'm not averse to DECORATE/ZScript if it's really necessary

#

is there an ACS solution?

#

because that would be nice but if there isn't oh well

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 10:47 PM

#

I hope you dont use acs.

#

Now anyway... I was merely checking incase if you had acs scripts for maps or anything set up.

#

So yes. Could set up something of a system via inheritance.

Class BAHBBaseWeapon : Weapon { int WeapFlags; }

Then in further classes that inherit from here, they simply do:

A_WeaponReady(invoker.WeapFlags);

Which can be changed by:

invoker.WeapFlags = WRF_NOFIRE;

etc.

#

This does not carry over though, but to alleviate that you can simply do:

A_WeaponReady(CountInv("NoFire") ? WRF_NOFIRE : 0);

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 10:58 PM

#

so with this method, i would need to rewrite every weapon to include these changes, correct?

#

i guess that's going to be unavoidable

#

if that's the case

#

@drowsy forum

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 10:59 PM

#

Well the easiest way is to do that countinv part if you want it to affect all weapons during a specific moment.

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 10:59 PM

#

yeah, that's exactly what i want

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 10:59 PM

#

Or if you dont want players cheating...

#

Have the int on the player instead.

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 10:59 PM

#

if players are going to cheat, they are going to cheat 😛

#

they can expect things to break

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:02 PM

#

int WF = 0;
if (plr && plr.NoWeaponFire) wf = WRF_NOFIRE;
A_WeaponReady(WF);```

Assuming NoWeaponFire will be either equal to WRF_NOFIRE or 0.

#

I dont care if people do cheat myself, but it annoys me to no end when they come bitching about things being broken.

That's the exact reason why we originally put in the barbie song in AEoD.

I was going to replace it with the my little pony theme for a fresh start but...

#

In the end we scrapped it.

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 11:03 PM

#

i haven't really done any advanced ZScript myself, so i don't really know where all this goes

#

i'd appreciate if you could give a larger example

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:05 PM

#

ASSUMING BAHBPlayer is the name of your player class... Change it to whatever it needs to be.

#

Had to edit the above code. Put that in all your weapons, in the ready state.

Then in the player, add bool NoWeaponFire;

#

Not in the Default code block, not in the states, just out in the global open space after the first opening bracket.

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 11:08 PM

#

okay

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:11 PM

#

what about reaplcing player class sprites

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:11 PM

#

Or if you want to go the easy route, just stick with the token if you truly don't care about the cheating biz.

Anyway... If you want to do it the learning way though, stick with me here.

Whenever you need to change it, depending on where you do it:

(oops hold on)

@vocal crypt it's no different from Decorate.

#

if (plr) plr.NoWeaponFire = true;```

#

That is, if you call it from anywhere but the player actor itself.

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:13 PM

#

Carrots?

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:13 PM

#

< >

#

Those are carrots.

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:13 PM

#

oh

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:13 PM

#

Carets. Karets. WHATEVER.

#

Not the vegetable!

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:13 PM

#

karets are the gold

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:13 PM

#

Yeah.

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 11:13 PM

#

pretty sure karats are the gold

#

http://www.gingersoftware.com/english-online/spelling-book/confusing-words/carat-caret-karat-carrot

#1 Grammar and Spell checker

Improve your English using wisdom of crowds

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:14 PM

#

plr is player right?

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 11:14 PM

#

plr is defined to be equal to BAHBPlayer(self)

#

so plr.whatever = BAHBPlayer(self).whatever

#

makes for easier coding

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:15 PM

#

do I put it in decorate?

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 11:15 PM

#

this is all ZScript stuff

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:15 PM

#

Now @unreal oyster if you perform the change on the actor itself, you don't need to do that let plr stuff. You can just do NoWeaponFire = true; right off the bat.

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:15 PM

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ZScript?

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:15 PM

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Don't pay attention to us.

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We're just toying with some really in-depth crap. I don't have time to really explain a lot of it in detail though.

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:17 PM

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I'm trying to solve this sprite problem

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this class only has the doomguy crouching when in the class select screen

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type chase in console and it's invisible

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:17 PM

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Never dealt with that before but if I were to guess, you need +NOSKIN flag.

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:17 PM

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in decorate?

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:18 PM

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yeah.

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:18 PM

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Now where to put it then

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:18 PM

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outside of the states declaration.

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{
     +NOSKIN```

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:19 PM

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still doomguy crouching

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:19 PM

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Isn't that what you wanted?

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Instead of being invisible?

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:19 PM

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Hold on, I was going by the class selection part

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still invisible

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the chase in console part

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:21 PM

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Eh not sure what to tell you. Never did get that deep with players. I usually just don't specify it at all.

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If you didnt specify it, report it as a bug.

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:22 PM

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What I'm trying to do is replace the usual sprites with the Sprite guy I ripped from Skulltag skins

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usual sprite being doomguy

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:23 PM

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Dunno what to tell you about that.

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Never dealt with it.

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Oooh! @unreal oyster fun fact: Graf's going to dropkick SBARINFO down the toilet one day down the road and implement a much better system straight into ZScript. 😄

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 11:24 PM

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ah, awesome

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:24 PM

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And hudmessages. And menus.

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 11:25 PM

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i have seen stuff about that, like menus

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:25 PM

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Maybe shoot it down

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 11:25 PM

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yeah

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non-ACS menus is just going to be straight up brilliant

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and hudmessages

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:25 PM

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Fuck yeah it is.

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I can finally redo my holo menu I had in D4D v1.

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:25 PM

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well my cat's infront of my bloody keyboard

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technically not even my cat

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:26 PM

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And now back to enjoying a bit more D4D...

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:28 PM

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any wads that are basic, but use classes?

proper shuttle Jan 14, 2017, 11:30 PM

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@drowsy forum what are your thoughts on the d4d modmod D4DHF

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:30 PM

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Well, I'm already starting to incorporate a few of their stuffs.

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If you pay attention to the D4D thread you'll see.

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 11:34 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/nGwCrUR.png

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excuse me

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:35 PM

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Your TITLE has been corrupted, and will be restored

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Press the Playstation button to begin use

latent phoenix Jan 14, 2017, 11:38 PM

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Hey.

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I got a 3D Model gzdoom mod working, somewhat

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the weapons and pickups still are invis

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anyone know gzdoom enough to take a crack at it?

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 11:40 PM

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you got a fallback sprite for the models?

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when using models, you need a sprite to fall back on

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idk if that's the issue though

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post your MODELDEF?

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:42 PM

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is there any sprite in regular doom that uses the name GSOL?

latent phoenix Jan 14, 2017, 11:44 PM

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uh, modle def

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You mean the whole .def file?

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 11:45 PM

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;zdoomwiki_search MODELDEF

edgy grottoBOT Jan 14, 2017, 11:45 PM

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/MODELDEF

MODELDEF

MODELDEF is the lump which defines models used in hardware-accelerated ports.

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 11:45 PM

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this

latent phoenix Jan 14, 2017, 11:45 PM

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yeah.

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 11:45 PM

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sure, post the entire thing in a code block

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:45 PM

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Is there any actor/sprite that uses the name GSOL?

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I think there might be some name conflict

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But that's just guesswork

drowsy forum Jan 14, 2017, 11:46 PM

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Did it crash when you tried to open the READ THIS! thing?

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If so, you should report that on the mantis tracker.

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 11:46 PM

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nope, just pressed esc and it crashed

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:46 PM

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that's the titlemap in the background?

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 11:46 PM

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nope

latent phoenix Jan 14, 2017, 11:48 PM

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http://pastebin.com/m3eDA2bW

Pastebin

Model BFG9000 { Path "Models/Weapons/Pickup/BFG9000" Model 0 "BF...

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 11:48 PM

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okay, you using pk3 or wad?

latent phoenix Jan 14, 2017, 11:49 PM

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pk3.

unreal oyster Jan 14, 2017, 11:49 PM

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okay then

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urr

latent phoenix Jan 14, 2017, 11:50 PM

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Everything works fine, gibs are working

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but revenants are giants :c

vocal crypt Jan 14, 2017, 11:55 PM

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jesus christ.

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renaming GSOL sprites to COTE for nothign

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:01 AM

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@drowsy forum very awesome.

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:02 AM

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Yup. ALso I just updated the D4D.pk3 and D4DResources. Features a few new goodies including the lance pistol from D4DHF.

Also ledge grabbing is undergoing an overhaul. Right now it just kinda... teleports you up ledges.

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I intend on slowing it down and making it overtime instead of just wallhumping with the forward key because that annoys me to no end. No offense, @neat oxide . 😛

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:03 AM

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well fuck

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R_InstallSprite: Sprite COTE frame A is missing rotations

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...except it has like 5 graphics for each letter

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:04 AM

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heh

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:04 AM

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COTE A 1-5

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COTE B 1-5

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etc

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:04 AM

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add extra firing modes to D4D, the ones missing from release doom

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as it used to have three firing modes

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four maybe

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:05 AM

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like Russian Overkill with quadtrupant fire modes

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:05 AM

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that'd be cool actually

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having lots of firing modes

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:05 AM

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RO has like four

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:05 AM

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yes

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i do however get bulletstorm flashes whenever i think of RO and doom's missing modes

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:06 AM

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Bullet storm flashes?

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:07 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjNEKnifT5M

YouTube

IGN

Bulletstorm Trailer

▶ Play video

hoary tulip Jan 15, 2017, 12:07 AM

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Is there any compilation of stuff that wasn't kept for the release version of doom'16?

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:07 AM

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the horror part of Doom 3

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/jk

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:08 AM

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the archvile.

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that's missing

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:08 AM

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spider mastermind?

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:08 AM

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@proper shuttle there's going to be something else planned.

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:08 AM

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huh

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:09 AM

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It'll make needing more than 2 fire modes impossible, but it'll ultimately put your button pressing skills to the test. I won't go into details right now since I still have much to plan.

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:09 AM

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hah

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is it kill with skill

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because that was awesome

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:09 AM

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shrugs.

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You might get a hint if you check out the source code of D4D.

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Might. 😉

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:10 AM

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oh i will

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ha

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:11 AM

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Seems I'm screwed with that seperate sprites for seperate classes thing

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:13 AM

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Oh and @proper shuttle try not to spoil it for everyone else if you do find out. 😛

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:15 AM

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@drowsy forum i tried doing what you said with all that disabling player fire stuff, but i think i'm gonna give up now, i just can't get anything working unfortunately

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thanks for helping though 😃

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:15 AM

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Rely on inventory in that case.

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@unreal oyster do this: A_WeaponReady(CountInv("NoFire") ? WRF_NOFIRE : 0);

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That's the easiest way to handle it.

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:16 AM

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oh k

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what actor do i need to give "NoFire" to?

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:16 AM

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The player.

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A simple A_SetInventory("NoFire", 1 or 0); will suffice.

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:17 AM

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uh, i'll likely be using ACS to control the firing

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:17 AM

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Then Give/TakeInventory from ACS.

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:17 AM

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ah right

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any way to set the number in ACS rather than just giving and taking?

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:18 AM

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heh

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:18 AM

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nope. Cuz fuck acs lawlz.

Mainly, ACS is not going to see any further development much like DECORATE is not.

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:19 AM

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Seems everything is dying

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:20 AM

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ZScript will deprecate it all. Hell, ZScript will allow for DYNAMIC SLOPE ADJUSTMENTS.

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Like Duke Nukem.

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And Shadow Warrior.

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Wiggle waggle waves anyone?

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:20 AM

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so ZScripts is basically what Duke Nukem and Shadow Warrior used kinda?

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:20 AM

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this is good.

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:20 AM

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Because it seems GZDoom Builder and Slade haven't upgraded to that format

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:21 AM

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its a new format anyways

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@drowsy forum OH SHIT YEAH

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SLOPES BOOYAH

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:21 AM

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no nrssr.

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 12:21 AM

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I thought we could already do dynamic slope adjust

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:21 AM

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TIME TO LIVE FAST AND DIE HARD

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:22 AM

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If we did, I sure didn't know about it. Also ZZYZX is doing a maintenance port of GZDB https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=54957

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:22 AM

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yeah, i saw that

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why is GZDB being discontinued?

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:22 AM

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wait what

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:23 AM

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Cuz people pissed too hard on maxed.

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:23 AM

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jesus.

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 12:23 AM

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Huh?

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What happened

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:23 AM

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Seems doom modding scene is fucking dying

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:23 AM

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Such assumptions are dangerous to make NRSSR. You'll have a heart attack.

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:23 AM

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not really, it's actually thriving tbh with zscript pulling ahead so fast

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 12:24 AM

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What's going on, what happened with gzdb?

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:24 AM

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^

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:24 AM

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Everyone made like walter's wife, jumped on the menstrual cycle and RAN HIS ASS OVER when he changed the texture browser.

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well, most did.

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:24 AM

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what change?

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 12:24 AM

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What's wrong with it

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:24 AM

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If it happened, it was either subtle or I dealt wtih it

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:24 AM

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https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=32392&start=5595#p968587

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:24 AM

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a very dangerous assumption to say that the community is dying

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:25 AM

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Start here or go back a page or two.

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:25 AM

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372 then?

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:26 AM

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is it converging with slade?

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:26 AM

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https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=32392&start=5580#p968536

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:26 AM

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Isn't that the same layout as the "old"?

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:26 AM

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same purpose

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:26 AM

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I need some side-by-side comparison of layouts

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:26 AM

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I wasn't part of it since I'm not a mapper.

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But graf certainly has a few words to say and so does eruanna.

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:27 AM

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the major change is that now, used textures are very hard to distinguish from non-used

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which is a massive change for theming a map properly

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:28 AM

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so what are we gonna use for mapping then

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since the xDoom Builder line is dying

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 12:28 AM

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I already linked it above to zzyzx's post....

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:28 AM

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GZDB-Bugfix

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like major linked

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:28 AM

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dying?

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its a strong word

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:29 AM

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Doom Builder 2 hasn't been updated in weeks

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:29 AM

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???

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:29 AM

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not weeks

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but like years IIRC

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:29 AM

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that doesn't mean doom is dead

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:29 AM

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I know

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I meant the mapping part

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:29 AM

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it will have forks though

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:30 AM

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Unless there's a GZDoom Builder 2 coming out by some other person

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:30 AM

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there is though?

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https://github.com/jewalky/GZDoom-Builder-Bugfix

GitHub

jewalky/GZDoom-Builder-Bugfix

GZDoom-Builder-Bugfix - Comprehensive map editor for Doom, Heretic, Hexen and Strife based games mainly geared towards GZDoom source port. Based on Doom Builder 2 by CodeImp (http://www.doombuilder...

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because you didn't click on cooke's links

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:30 AM

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he only posted zdoom forum links

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:30 AM

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i do wonder if there's any fully 3d oriented editor

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no sectors

#

one of the links led to the gzdoom builder fork thread

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 12:31 AM

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So pretty much change happened

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:31 AM

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change happened and people didn't like it

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thus the nature of open source

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:31 AM

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pretty much, you download everything from the new bugfix repo instead now

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 12:31 AM

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The dude made the texture browser look like hammer's texture browser

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:31 AM

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since GZDB is dead i suppose

#

📎 unknown.png

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this is what bugfix's texture browser is like now

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:31 AM

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nice.

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:32 AM

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note the neat divide between "Used" and "Unused"

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that's what GZDB normal removed

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:32 AM

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yes it is good.

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but why

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:32 AM

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kevan said to make it more like hammer

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whether that's the actual case, idk

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:32 AM

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like Source Hammer?

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or some other program like Hammer

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:32 AM

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but it's what it was like

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:33 AM

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*named

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 12:33 AM

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Source hammer

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I use that on occasion

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There's no used section

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Idk why he removed it

#

DB's texture browser was already decent enough

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Hammer gets away with it because there's an eye dropper tool, so there's no need to have it remember if you have or have not used a texture

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That eye dropper tool then goes hand in hand with the paint tool

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GZDB doesn't have a paint tool in it's 3D view, hence the need to remember what textures have been used because there's no way to move around the map and paint surfaces

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:36 AM

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yes

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the new texture browser had a way to distinguish, but it was ridiculously subtle

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from black text to blue

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no divider, or anything like that

#

then people got pissed at MaxED and he said "I think I'll better go and make Duke Builder or something. See ya."

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so that's why GZDB-Bugfix exists

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 12:37 AM

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How do you run the damn thing

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:37 AM

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~~also having the project on github is a major improvement~~ i was wrong here, it was already on github lol

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 12:38 AM

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Poor guy

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:38 AM

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http://www.mediafire.com/file/bp94dm8o3ee2qxg/GZDoom_Builder_Bugfix-r2802.7z

MediaFire

GZDoom_Builder_Bugfix-r2802.7z

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 12:38 AM

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Fell to his own ego

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:38 AM

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you don't download it from github if you want to easily run it

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@vocal crypt

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 12:38 AM

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This must be his first community project

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:38 AM

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use that link

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:39 AM

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can i compile it for linux or mac?

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:40 AM

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C#

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sorry :/

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:40 AM

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mono exists

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it compiles C#

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:41 AM

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oh yeah you can give that a try

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:41 AM

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i do think it has a special requirement for mono support

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or was that XNA to mono

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 12:43 AM

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idk

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the project is designed for VS2015

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also - http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/gzdbbf/

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GZDB-Bugfix will be on drdteam soon

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so that will make the updater work

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in fact GZDB is now completely gone from DRDteam

proper shuttle Jan 15, 2017, 12:49 AM

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huh

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 12:52 AM

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Thinking if there's any words of wisdom ai can drop

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maxED thinks the community owes him something more than a thank you

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That duke builder was a hollow threat

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He wanted to see how many people who clamber to him and apologize for what they said

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 1:01 AM

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@drowsy forum that inventory stuff now works fine the first time i give the NoFire item to the player but every subsequent time it fails, any idea why?

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Class NoFire : Inventory {
}

Class BarrelPistol : Pistol replaces Pistol {
    States
    {
    Ready:
        PISG A 1 A_WeaponReady(CountInv("NoFire") ? WRF_NOFIRE : 0);
        Loop;
    }
}

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that's the ZScript i have right now

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 1:02 AM

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the CountInv thing fails?

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Do a printinv and see if the item's in your inventory when it fails.

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 1:03 AM

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tried that, item is given 100% of the time as expected

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 1:04 AM

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Oh. It's because the weapon is going to the internal states which don't have this check.

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You need to replace all the select, deselect, ready, fire and altfire states.

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Then you need to use return ResolveState(<name>) in place of the Goto <state> since you're inheriting from Pistol.

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Or just do A_Jump(256,<state>) in return. But yeah, cut off the inheritance from Pistol and go from Weapon, and this won't be an issue.

wooden portal Jan 15, 2017, 1:05 AM

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Shame that I won't be able to make use of ZScript for a long time.

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 1:06 AM

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why not?

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 1:06 AM

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Zandronumist.

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 1:06 AM

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ah

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 1:06 AM

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shrugs. "That's life."

wooden portal Jan 15, 2017, 1:06 AM

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My mod is meant for Zan 3.0 at minimum

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 1:06 AM

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Called it.

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 1:06 AM

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I never heard of ZScript

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And I used GZDoom

wooden portal Jan 15, 2017, 1:07 AM

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I only recently made it cross compatible with GZDoom

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 1:09 AM

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I was thinking of making my mod a multiplayer one, but I'm thinking of just using seperate episodes for the seperate classes

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because Zandronum uses a outdated as fuck Zdoom source code

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so

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 1:10 AM

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@drowsy forum inheriting from DoomWeapon fixed it, thank you

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 1:10 AM

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Singleplayer only

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 1:10 AM

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it's a bit more text-heavy but whatever

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 1:11 AM

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Never roll with inheriting from game based items if you can avoid it. Go with source code based instead, i.e. Weapon and such.

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 1:11 AM

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yeah, fair enough

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i just naively thought that inheriting from the pistol would mean i only had to replace 1 state, lol

wooden portal Jan 15, 2017, 1:12 AM

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I know how that goes

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 1:12 AM

#

but off topic, does anyone know any simple mods taht uses classes?

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Trying to troubleshoot this sprite problem

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 1:19 AM

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ah, jeez

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turned out jimmy already redefined the fist

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right then

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 1:21 AM

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I'm surprised that I'm the only one to call out maxED for that bullshit he just pulled

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 1:21 AM

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Egos

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not good for you.

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 1:22 AM

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it really is an ego thing for him

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I know because I used to be like that

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 1:22 AM

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but then you took a arrow in the knee, or a shotgun blast to the face?

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 1:23 AM

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More like I shot myself in the knee

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 1:23 AM

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isn't it the foot?

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 1:23 AM

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you're about a foot off from where the knee and foot is located

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 1:23 AM

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no no

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the expression

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shooting yourself in the foot

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 1:24 AM

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I was mixing the two up

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 1:25 AM

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you wouldn't know the sprite class thing would you

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problem

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 1:27 AM

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the what problem

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 1:27 AM

#

urr so @drowsy forum i've redefined every weapon like this: class BarrelShotgun : DoomWeapon replaces Shotgun { Default { Weapon.SelectionOrder 1300; Weapon.AmmoUse 1; Weapon.AmmoGive 8; Weapon.AmmoType "Shell"; Inventory.PickupMessage "$GOTSHOTGUN"; Obituary "$OB_MPSHOTGUN"; Tag "$TAG_SHOTGUN"; } States { Ready: SHTG A 1 A_WeaponReady(CountInv("NoFire") ? WRF_NOFIRE : 0); Loop; Deselect: SHTG A 1 A_Lower; Loop; Select: SHTG A 1 A_Raise; Loop; Fire: SHTG A 3; SHTG A 7 A_FireShotgun; SHTG BC 5; SHTG D 4; SHTG CB 5; SHTG A 3; SHTG A 7 A_ReFire; Goto Ready; Flash: SHTF A 4 Bright A_Light1; SHTF B 3 Bright A_Light2; Goto LightDone; Spawn: SHOT A -1; Stop; } } now but when i do give all i can't switch to them or anything

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i feel i'm missing something really obvious

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but idk

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 1:27 AM

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What I'm trying to do is make a certain class have certain sprites like in some wads

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 1:27 AM

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Yeah.

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Inherit from WEAPON.

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 1:27 AM

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for example, Russian Overkill

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 1:27 AM

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NOT DOOMWEAPON.

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 1:27 AM

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ah, k

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 1:28 AM

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Oh and set up the weapon slots in the player.

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 1:28 AM

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The problem is the class uses doomguy sprites crouching when you're on the class selection screen

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and when ingame, typing chase in console, the sprite is invisible

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talking to @royal wave

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 1:28 AM

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I wouldn't know

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 1:38 AM

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~~and now since this solution uses zscript i'm going to have to translate all of Jimmy's code for ABAHB over to zscript since it will piss me off~~

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oh boy i'm excited

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https://devbuilds.drdteam.org/doombuilder2-gzdb/ now hosts the gzdb-bugfix builds

Rachael Alexanderson, soulpriestess@drdteam.org

SVN Builds

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so that's cool

royal wave Jan 15, 2017, 1:41 AM

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woo

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His loss

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 1:44 AM

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his being MaxSD or something?

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I forgot his username

drowsy forum Jan 15, 2017, 1:46 AM

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ya

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 1:46 AM

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what does the bug-fix have

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builds

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 1:48 AM

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It's going to just continue on with GZDB Dev I think

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Pick up where MaxED left off

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 1:49 AM

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ah

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wonder if they'll address that texture thing

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 1:49 AM

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The texture browser? Yeah

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Already been addressed

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 1:49 AM

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the new "seperation" of used and unused textures was black and blue text?

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you know

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the one before MaxED had his ego broken or something

unreal oyster Jan 15, 2017, 1:50 AM

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Yea, GZDB-Bugfix adds the old separation back

vocal crypt Jan 15, 2017, 1:50 AM

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ok