#classic-doom-maps-mods | DOOM | Page 34

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:11 PM

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decorate

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why

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:11 PM

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just needed to make sure it was being loaded

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oh wait

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I think I know

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:12 PM

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wat

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also there's problem with jetpack

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air acceleration is low

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so i cant really walk while flying

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:13 PM

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that's because you put 1 in the last property

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:13 PM

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it adds to speed

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not overrides

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:13 PM

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set/add: If 0, sets the thing's vertical speed to 0 and only then applies the force. If 1, adds the speed resulting from the special's force to the thing's current vertical speed.

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meaning it'll start from 0

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:13 PM

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adds

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if 0, sets speed to 0

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:13 PM

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and whatever thrust value you have might be very small

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:13 PM

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30

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also i mean horizontally walking

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i can't horizontally walk while on air

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it walks really slow

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:14 PM

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no air control?

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 3:14 PM

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doom has poor air control in the first place

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:15 PM

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As for the other thing, your new player pawn doesn't need to replace anything, so remove the replaces bit, you need to add it to the MAPINFO lump as such

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{
   PlayerClasses = "MyPlayer"
}```

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:15 PM

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what

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only that

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:16 PM

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wait

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GameInfo
{
PlayerClasses = "MyPlayer"
}

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I don't know why Discord is eating part of my messages, even though it's still fully there when I go to edit it

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but yes, you need that block in MAPINFO

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"MyPlayer" would be the name of the player class actor

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:16 PM

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and

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thats all?

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whyat about the item stuff

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:17 PM

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what item stuff?

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:17 PM

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the item replacement

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what you sent me only replaces class nig

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{
  Player.DisplayName "Searine"
  Player.StartItem "PistolEdit"
  Player.StartItem "Jetpack"
  Player.StartItem "Fist"
  Player.StartItem "Clip", 150
  
  
  Player.WeaponSlot 1, Fist, Chainsaw
  Player.WeaponSlot 2, PistolEdit, Jetpack
  Player.WeaponSlot 3, Shotgun, SuperShotgun
  Player.WeaponSlot 4, Chaingun
  Player.WeaponSlot 5, RocketLauncher
  Player.WeaponSlot 6, PlasmaRifle
  Player.WeaponSlot 7, BFG9000
}```

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:17 PM

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you still need that

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that's separate

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:17 PM

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do i have to change

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:17 PM

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you still need a new actor to actually use

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:17 PM

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MyPlayer to PloomPlayer

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?

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:17 PM

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yes

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/Creating_new_player_classes

Creating new player classes

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:18 PM

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it is vork

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woo

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@torn timber i has problem

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https://streamable.com/6yj5

Streamable

2016-11-18_16-19-45.mp4

Check out this video on Streamable using your phone, tablet or desktop.

▶ Play video

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on Raise it shows it weirdly

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but on altfire it shows normal

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without A_RAISE

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wat do

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:21 PM

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see what's happening here is what I talked about, it's trying to play the animation while raising

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:22 PM

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but

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the code i have is

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    TNT1 AAAAAAAAA 0 A_Raise
    JETP A 1
    JETT ABCDA 5
    JETP A 1 
    Loop```

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:22 PM

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yeah, that's the issue

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it's looping

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:22 PM

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do i show it after Loop

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type*

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:23 PM

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try having this:

    TNT1 A 0 A_Raise
    Loop

Ready:
    JETP A 1 // This is just a quick animation that plays before the weapon is actually ready
    JETT ABCDA 5
    JETP A 1 //This then drops down into the real ready state
ReadyLoop:
    //The actual ready state here```

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keywords like "Loop" are for the flow of logic for your code

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:24 PM

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so i just change Goto Ready from Fire

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:24 PM

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once it hits Loop, it just goes back to the start of the state

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:24 PM

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to Goto ReadyLoop

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:24 PM

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it doesn't continue past loop

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and yes

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:26 PM

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now it just keeps looping Ready

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:26 PM

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what does your code look like now

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including select, ready, and readyloop

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all three of those states

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:26 PM

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    JETP A 1
    JETT ABCDA 5
    JETP A 1 
  Deselect:
    JETP A 1 A_Lower
    Loop
  Select:
    TNT1 AAAAAAAAA 0 A_Raise
    JETP A 1
    JETT ABCDA 5
    JETP A 1 
    Loop
  Fire:
    JETP A 4
    JETP B 3 ThrustThingZ(0,30,0,1)
    JETP A 2 A_ReFire
    Goto ReadyLoop```

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hold on

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i forgot ReadyLoop

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:27 PM

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that's because you didn't have a readyloop

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yeah

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:27 PM

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    JETP A 1 A_WeaponReady
    Loop```

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it's on the top

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:27 PM

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there you go

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no

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:27 PM

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IT WAS ALREADY THERE

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:27 PM

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that's has to be under the ready state

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:27 PM

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ok

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:27 PM

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if you don't include a keyword at the end of a state,

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it drops through

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to the next state

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:27 PM

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same thing nig

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you know what

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wahtever

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he'll raise it with normal anim

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:28 PM

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if you don't specificly put a Goto phrase at the end of a state, it just passes to the next available line below

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yours is passing through to Deselect

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:29 PM

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it's better to just grab it up

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it'll flip the jetpack on AltFire

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only

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:33 PM

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whatever works for what you need

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also you could possibly use this for when you switch the jetpack on and then revert it when you turn it off

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/SetAirControl

SetAirControl

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 3:35 PM

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that's a weirdly specific default for an engine that doesn't support floats

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:36 PM

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So like:


TNT1 A 0 SetAirControl(0.25) Would be better air control```

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fixed point

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 3:36 PM

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they imply the same thing, just different memory allocation

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:37 PM

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yep

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I think 0.00390625 shifted would be 5 as an integer? Did I do that right?

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 3:40 PM

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let me check

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 3:40 PM

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That default has a very specific meaning, it's basically just enough to make jumping up to a ledge possible

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:40 PM

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yes, that's what the wiki says

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 3:40 PM

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Without making maps breakable because of increased control

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 3:41 PM

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operator is >> 8 right?

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:41 PM

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16

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 3:41 PM

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16?

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 3:41 PM

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<< 16 right?

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:41 PM

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/Fixed_point_number

Fixed point number

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 3:41 PM

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I thought it dealth with 255

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:41 PM

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yes, 16

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 3:42 PM

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1.0 in fixed point is 65536

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 3:43 PM

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well fuck, flash don't know how to handle << or >> because both outputs give me 0

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:43 PM

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http://www.miniwebtool.com/bitwise-calculator/bit-shift/

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?

formal breach Nov 18, 2016, 4:14 PM

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https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1689133

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Some more textures from your's truly

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fuck it went to the wrong post

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Just go to the user named Sgt Ender or some shit

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 4:17 PM

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it looks nice

formal breach Nov 18, 2016, 4:27 PM

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I'm sure someone's done the flats before

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But not the COMPTILE edits yet

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Especially not the tech variants

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 4:29 PM

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i broke something

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formal breach Nov 18, 2016, 4:30 PM

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Huh?

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 4:31 PM

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two gun anims at once

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    JETP A 4
    TNT1 A 0 SetAirControl(0.25)
    JETP B 3 ThrustThingZ(0,30,0,1)
    JETP B 0 A_PlaySound ("weapons/rocklf", CHAN_WEAPON)
    TNT1 A 0 SetAirControl(0.00390625)
    JETP A 1 A_ReFire``` @torn timber would this be correkt

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WEE

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WOO

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 4:32 PM

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The COMPTILE edits have been done before, but not in the same colors as yours @formal breach

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(CC4-TEX.wad)

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 4:33 PM

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not good

formal breach Nov 18, 2016, 4:33 PM

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damn it

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 4:33 PM

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setaircontrol is ACS

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 4:33 PM

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you can run acs on decorate tho

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 4:33 PM

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yes, if you launch an ACS script you can

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you can't just put an ACS function in DECORATE though

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 4:34 PM

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unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 4:34 PM

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it doesn't work that way

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 4:34 PM

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ok

formal breach Nov 18, 2016, 4:35 PM

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Well fuck you CC4, I got the purple version! HA

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 4:36 PM

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ThrustThingZ works in DECORATE because it is an ACS and DECORATE function

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SetAirControl is ACS only

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also just keep in mind when using SetAirControl, you immediately make your mod multiplayer incompatible

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 4:37 PM

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Some ACS functions can't be used in DECORATE, that's probably one of them

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many will still work

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 4:38 PM

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*most ACS functions

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 4:38 PM

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As for the fire state,

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 4:39 PM

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in fact, technically speaking, no ACS functions work in DECORATE. DECORATE is an entirely different bit of the source code

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so if any functions seem to work with both, it means they have been explicitly coded with the same function name

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for convenience

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 4:40 PM

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minus the setaircontrol stuff, should work fine, just make sure you have Goto ReadyLoop on the end of that

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 4:40 PM

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concerning air control @haughty flower - it's pretty easy to use ACS in DECORATE, do you know how to do that?

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i can quickly run you through if you don't

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 4:42 PM

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I'm sure they know how to use ACS_Execute/ACS_ExecuteAlways in DECORATE

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if they really need to run a script

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they went over the compiling stuff and setting up ACS earlier

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 4:43 PM

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ah

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didn't scroll up

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:09 PM

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who the fuck cares about multiplayer anyways

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 8:10 PM

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multiplayer is super fun, dude

hazy lantern Nov 18, 2016, 8:10 PM

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^

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:10 PM

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no because i have no friends

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so i can't play multiplayer

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 8:10 PM

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having your mod be mp compatible is a huge plus if it's doable

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:10 PM

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who wants to play a mod about nerfguns and jetpacks in multiplayer

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that's not cool

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@torn timber i actually have no fucking idea how to ACS

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ACC doesn't compile for shit

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 8:12 PM

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did you ever set up your compiler?

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download ACC

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:12 PM

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i did

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it spews out mr. error

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lemme show

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 8:12 PM

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then did you set the file path to the ACC in Slade?

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 8:13 PM

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don't use ACC, use GDCC-ACC instead

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:13 PM

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what the fuc is dat

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 8:14 PM

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https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=32078

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it's an alternative ACS compiler

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better than the original one

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:14 PM

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d o n ' t a n s w e r t h a t

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r t h e o r i c a l

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q u e s t i o n

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 8:15 PM

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that wasn't a rhetorical question, but sure

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:15 PM

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ok

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 8:15 PM

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your scripts will pretty much be the same with both, but yes, GDCC is newer, works better in some situations

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:15 PM

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mmmmmmmmmmmmmMMMMM 7z

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that's more compressed than a waffle in a wafflemaker

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and that's goode A+

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Gutawer

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which one do I open?

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gdcc-acc?

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 8:18 PM

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yea

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:18 PM

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ok

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wait this is in C++?

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i saw .h files

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 8:19 PM

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.h files are C and C++

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:19 PM

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god damn you microhard.ogg

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ima try script "Jetpack ON" (void) { ThrustThingZ (0, 8, 0, 1); }

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@unreal oyster so i compiled a script that said "daddy", deleted it, and tried to compile a diff. one

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do i gotta manually remove the temp acs

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sorry for ping btw

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 8:23 PM

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stop. fucking. pinging. me. please. for. god's. sake.

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:25 PM

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not working

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@torn timber do u kno why? :u

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 8:27 PM

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nothing of the sort happens for me, although it did until recently

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update SLADE

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:28 PM

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manually?

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 8:29 PM

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nah, just shout at your computer and it should update slade for you

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make sure to say please

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:31 PM

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ok

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it shouted back at me

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is this normal

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 8:31 PM

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yeah, that means it's doing it

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:31 PM

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ok

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there's only a beta release from february

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and i tihnk i have it

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nvm

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it just ate the bars

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=== Error log: ===
ERROR: could not open 'C:\Program Files (x86)\SLADE\temp\MEMEPILE.acs' for reading```

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help me gutawer

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 8:40 PM

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with what? i mean if the problem you are having is that there aren't any slashes in the exe location - why not try adding the slashes in

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i mean, just a thought

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:40 PM

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i added the slashes

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but it can't open for reading

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 8:40 PM

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ur, i dunno

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reopen slade?

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:40 PM

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did

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 8:41 PM

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can i see the full error log, instead of just that bit?

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:42 PM

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it only says that

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that's the error log

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 8:43 PM

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uh, screenshot the entire acc location window for me?

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:44 PM

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unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 8:46 PM

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ur, that's not really anymore helpful

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i'm not really sure

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screenshot the wad layout maybe?

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:46 PM

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pk3

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but in a wad way

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yeah

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 8:50 PM

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uh, that's clearly a wad format though

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pk3s dont work with markers

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 8:50 PM

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dont tell me what pk3s work with

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cause it does

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 8:55 PM

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lol, no it doesn't

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i tried making a pk3 with some TX_START and TX_END markers

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it doesn't fucking work dude

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i don't know why it would work for you, but even if it does:

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it's a garbage idea

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because the entire point of a pk3 is to make things better organized

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 9:03 PM

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no

unreal oyster Nov 18, 2016, 9:05 PM

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what do you mean "no"

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 9:05 PM

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https://streamable.com/qxbj

Streamable

2016-11-18_21-54-30.mp4

Check out this video on Streamable using your phone, tablet or desktop.

▶ Play video

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here's how my mod's going

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 1:48 AM

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Looks like a nerf gun

formal breach Nov 19, 2016, 2:21 AM

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it IS a nerf gun you heck

prisma saddle Nov 19, 2016, 2:22 AM

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It's a Nerf elite Strongarm,

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I know far too much about Nerf blasters...

formal breach Nov 19, 2016, 2:23 AM

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I have that one actually

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Really nice

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I love Nerf guns way too much actually

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I'm 16 wtf

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lmao

prisma saddle Nov 19, 2016, 2:24 AM

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I modified one of my blasters to lock up less.

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 9:15 AM

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i made a hard version of map01

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more enemies, different map layout, multiplayer-only entities are now for singleplayer, more weapons, a baron of hell

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and there are no secrets

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they're now open

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unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 9:18 AM

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the top-down view isn't very helpful honestly

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 9:18 AM

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oh

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i'll send

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gameplay vid then

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Gutawer u der?

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 9:22 AM

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yes

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 9:22 AM

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https://streamable.com/4c7k

Streamable

2016-11-19_10-20-52.mp4

Check out this video on Streamable using your phone, tablet or desktop.

▶ Play video

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 9:23 AM

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could you send the wad? i wanna give it a spin

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 9:24 AM

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ok

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i'm thinking of making map02, too

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📎 wademeer.wad

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 9:28 AM

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uh, can you actually get to the outside area?

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 9:28 AM

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you can't get to the water area yet, dunno why

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 9:28 AM

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other than that, it was slightly harder than the original so you did your job i guess

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 9:28 AM

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probably something has impassable flag

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also one of the sides of the floor lights has a door-activating linedef

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that's my mistake

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 9:30 AM

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but yeah other than that, it wasn't really that hard

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but it was harder than the original, i guess

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marginally

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@haughty flower you know people have already done the "harder doom" thing before though?

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http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/brutalized-doom-and-doom-ii

Mod DB

Maps of Chaos: The Full Package (1.27) addon - Brutal Doom mod f...

Name changed to Maps of Chaos January 10th, 2015. Update to RC 1.25 on January 18th: Modifications to MAP20 and MAP21. "Full Package" includes the original and hardcore versions as well. If you thought MoC Hardcore was tough, you haven't seen anything...

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maps of chaos

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does exactly that

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http://i.imgur.com/spuITjT.png

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map01 in maps of chaos for example

prisma saddle Nov 19, 2016, 9:59 AM

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I feel like making a map, but I have no idea what textures to use...

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 10:06 AM

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all

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Gutawer who the fuck cares bout that

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that's extended doom, not HARDER doom

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also the layout is literally the same with a few additions

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 10:20 AM

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yes, the one you made is literally the same with a few additions

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at least maps of chaos adds more

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and btw, maps of chaos is way harder

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so it's not true that it's just extended doom

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if you want it to be even harder than normal, maps of chaos overkill is included in the same package

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which is far harder

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 10:46 AM

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not gonna lie, that's kinda creepy :/

prisma saddle Nov 19, 2016, 10:47 AM

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Still kinda creepy,

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It's probably not the best idea either.

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Maybe pick a different loaction as reference,

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 10:53 AM

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adding doom-like places makes it even creepier imo because it seems like you are trying to satan your school up

prisma saddle Nov 19, 2016, 10:53 AM

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Okay,

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Needs more Fireblu

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 10:58 AM

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that texture looks weird

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but i'll try that out

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mmm. hot

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prisma saddle Nov 19, 2016, 10:59 AM

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10/10 best texturing,

royal wave Nov 19, 2016, 12:56 PM

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I remember when I was a angsty teenager too

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 12:59 PM

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@haughty flower you should use this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YxaaGgTQYM

YouTube

EvanescenceVEVO

Evanescence - Bring Me To Life

▶ Play video

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 12:59 PM

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oh no

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not the edge

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 12:59 PM

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edgy song goes well with edgy map idea

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

royal wave Nov 19, 2016, 12:59 PM

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Nothing's edgier than a doom map based on your school

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It's worked for every other mapper out there who's done that idea

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 1:00 PM

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frightened zombieman

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im gonn make brutal doom 2 guise

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xddddx

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 2:08 PM

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No this

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lemme just

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Is

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Honestly

elder ridgeBOT Nov 19, 2016, 2:08 PM

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Miloteza is a memer and a DOOM (93') mapper who likes using the default map textures. He also has no idea about DECORATE and he can't make ACS work. But he can make meh-quality sprites only to insult himself after making them. He also needs help every 5 minutes.

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 2:08 PM

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there

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Do you people not understand when two people are having a giggle

hazy lantern Nov 19, 2016, 2:08 PM

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Thanks for the idea, @unreal oyster 😄

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 2:08 PM

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I'M NOT HAVING A GIGGLE

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 2:08 PM

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heh lol

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a spammy giggle

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with lots of all caps

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 2:08 PM

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ERIC YOU ARE FUCKING molesting ME

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I bloody well am having a giggle mate

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Listen

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i am not

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It was for your own good

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hazy lantern Nov 19, 2016, 2:09 PM

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Does that demon

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DAB? O.o

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 2:09 PM

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yes

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i did that

hazy lantern Nov 19, 2016, 2:09 PM

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Oh my

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😂

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 2:09 PM

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arm layer

📎 unknown.png

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YOU WOYKD KNOW IF YOU DUDNT PURGE OUR MESSAGES GHOSTFACE

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nvm that's the layer that removes original arms

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📎 unknown.png

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AS THE ABSWER LIED ABOVE

hazy lantern Nov 19, 2016, 2:09 PM

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@haughty flower I saw all messages, don't worry 😄

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 2:09 PM

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pffft

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Whatever whatever

hazy lantern Nov 19, 2016, 2:10 PM

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Who is Eric?

elder ridgeBOT Nov 19, 2016, 2:10 PM

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Eric is the coolest Australian lad ever, being 1/8 German. He loves his qt anime waifu Leo.
Has one favorite Emoji. Ask him which one.

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 2:10 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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here's arm layer, GH05TF4C3

hazy lantern Nov 19, 2016, 2:10 PM

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nice

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 2:10 PM

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took me 5 mins

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also i'm making him attack with his dabs

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he faces you and shoots the dab

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you gotta exterminate the dab

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 POSDA0.png

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that's his attack sprite, here's IDLE/See sprite

📎 POSDB0.png

royal wave Nov 19, 2016, 2:20 PM

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At least it's the only original idea you've had

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 2:22 PM

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Come onnnnn

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Give the wee lad a break

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Stop shitting on his stuff he's still new innit he?

royal wave Nov 19, 2016, 2:23 PM

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We've tried to encourage him to make something his own for awhile now

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 2:24 PM

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Well maybe he wants to keep doing what he's doing till he's good enough to move on

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Ya dingus

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He's very gut boi

royal wave Nov 19, 2016, 2:25 PM

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Sure

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yo quick question. I want to increase a vanilla actors animation frames but keep the behavior vanilla. Last time i tried this i ended up with an actor that moved and attacked way too fast, how do I set up the decorate behavior?

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 2:36 PM

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so are you saying you want to add more animation frames, so as to make it smoother?

royal wave Nov 19, 2016, 2:36 PM

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Not smoother per say

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I have an lost soul sprite sheet i made that replaces the fire with a static effect

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I wanted to make the static believable, so i had to quintuple the frames

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 2:37 PM

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ah well unfortunately there isn't any easy way to do this, you just have to replace the entire states definition, making sure all the sprite animations still land in the same place

royal wave Nov 19, 2016, 2:37 PM

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Yes

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I'm aware how to replace states

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my issue is when i have the frames in

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the lost soul attacks like a fucking madman

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 2:39 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 2:41 PM

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with attack frames, you need to keep A_SkullAttack on only one frame essentially

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so while with something like A_Chase you could do

AAAA ABCDE 2 A_Chase()

instead of

AAAA A 10 A_Chase()

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it doesn't work that way with attacking

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 2:42 PM

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📎 unknown.png

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 2:43 PM

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so instead of SKUL D 4 Bright A_SkullAttack you would need

SKUL D 1 Bright A_SkullAttack
SKUL EFG 3 Bright

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or something of the sort

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 2:43 PM

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and the last frame

📎 unknown.png

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rip meme

royal wave Nov 19, 2016, 2:43 PM

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I think i tried that, but it caused it to stop mid animation and constantly fly at the player

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 2:44 PM

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well i'm not exactly sure then

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check out smooth doom's code?

royal wave Nov 19, 2016, 2:44 PM

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I have looked at it, I'm not sure I understand it a whole lot

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I'll take a look at it again, i just don't get what witchcraft he's pulling, haha

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 2:46 PM

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hmm well actually after looking at smooth doom's code it might be that they don't use multiple attack frames to get around that issue

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 2:47 PM

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it's dead boi+

📎 unknown.png

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 2:48 PM

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http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=51925 real original idea there

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 2:50 PM

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what

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there is

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a dat boi actor alraedy

royal wave Nov 19, 2016, 2:50 PM

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Wish i was that creative

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 2:51 PM

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whatever

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my wad is about dead memes

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 3:27 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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the butt of chat revival

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 3:29 PM

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the butt of irrelevant content

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 5:02 PM

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📎 unknown.png

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 5:47 PM

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anyone a good spriter?

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Gutawer?

unreal oyster Nov 19, 2016, 5:50 PM

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no.

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and even if i was, i wouldn't be interested in making dead meme sprites or sprites for 2edgy4me mods

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so you would have to rule me out

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 5:51 PM

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no, it's not for that

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it's for if someone can turn this into a doomguy hands sprite

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📎 unknown.png

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ignore the long ass arms

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it's just in case

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 7:12 PM

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hi

haughty flower Nov 19, 2016, 10:33 PM

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https://streamable.com/ysvu

Streamable

2016-11-19_22-39-52.mp4

Check out this video on Streamable using your phone, tablet or desktop.

▶ Play video

haughty flower Nov 21, 2016, 4:06 AM

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anyone here wanting to play a co-op snapmap. Trying to round up 2 more players.

dawn saffron Nov 21, 2016, 4:08 AM

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is it long?

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i've got about 20 mins

formal breach Nov 21, 2016, 9:29 PM

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https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1689854

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Rate these

tawny lion Nov 22, 2016, 11:36 AM

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@Miloteza#1375 WHEN IS THE WAD GOIWNG TOAU BE REALSED?

hazy lantern Nov 22, 2016, 11:36 AM

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Who is Arhum?

elder ridgeBOT Nov 22, 2016, 11:36 AM

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Arhum is a creature from Earth that likes to express his thoughts in a very direct, simple and enthusiastic way.

tawny lion Nov 22, 2016, 11:36 AM

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yep

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correct

royal wave Nov 23, 2016, 1:48 AM

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📎 IMG_2559.PNG

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Concept design. What do y'all think?

torn timber Nov 23, 2016, 1:54 AM

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Did you use dynamic lighting with some transparent textures to make like a hologram projection room?

royal wave Nov 23, 2016, 1:54 AM

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They're supposed to be glowing crystals, but yeah

torn timber Nov 23, 2016, 1:55 AM

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hard to convey crystal shapes in Doom,

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but still, don't think I've seen anyone do something like that yet myself

royal wave Nov 23, 2016, 1:55 AM

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Awesome

formal breach Nov 23, 2016, 2:02 AM

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That looks amazing

royal wave Nov 23, 2016, 2:06 AM

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Danke

haughty flower Nov 23, 2016, 2:37 AM

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me likey

royal wave Nov 23, 2016, 2:38 AM

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❤

royal wave Nov 23, 2016, 5:26 PM

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My goal for the first have is an office industrial complex

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Lots of rooms, lots of barracks looking spaces, etc.

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Then the latter half will be more underground like

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Mineshafts and chasms and pits

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I've made a glowing water texture that I want to use. Make the chasms all connected that you can swim in

unreal oyster Nov 23, 2016, 5:30 PM

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well you said "But yeah. i need to keep it more square in these parts" and tbh i'd disagree - try going off at angles rather than keeping things square

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also, i know it would make very little sense in an industrial complex but it's still very possible to have height variation

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it doesn't need to make sense, that's the key

royal wave Nov 23, 2016, 5:31 PM

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Well no. But I want it to

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But square doesn't mean it can't be complex

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I think I can take inspiration from No Rest For the Living with their indoor areas

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I guess what I mean by square, I mean I want to use simple shapes if that makes more sense

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Sorry, I'm terrible at conveying my thoughts verbally

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Later today I'll try streaming me working on the map

formal breach Nov 23, 2016, 6:47 PM

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Why am I so bad at mapping

plush sapphire Nov 23, 2016, 6:58 PM

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Because you haven't done it enough.

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Same reason I'm so bad at it lol.

formal breach Nov 23, 2016, 7:27 PM

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I might just make another train map

royal wave Nov 23, 2016, 7:37 PM

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Ooh I have an idea for a train map :3

plush sapphire Nov 23, 2016, 7:38 PM

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Are they each going 100km/h toward each other on different tracks with a switch at the half-way point set to an automated 2-hour interval and one train is leaving Chicago, the other Detroit?

royal wave Nov 23, 2016, 7:38 PM

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No

plush sapphire Nov 23, 2016, 7:38 PM

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Oh good.

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Your map might be good then.

formal breach Nov 23, 2016, 7:39 PM

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This train map will take place in the city most likely

royal wave Nov 23, 2016, 7:39 PM

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Woah cool

plush sapphire Nov 23, 2016, 7:39 PM

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Awesome

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Is this classic or 2016?

royal wave Nov 23, 2016, 7:41 PM

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I think my train map would be very non-euclidean

formal breach Nov 23, 2016, 7:43 PM

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Actually it'll be in a desert with buildings passing by

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I plan on trying to use 3D models for the buildings

plush sapphire Nov 23, 2016, 7:43 PM

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So classic then. 👍

prisma saddle Nov 23, 2016, 7:46 PM

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BSPs would probably be better.

formal breach Nov 23, 2016, 7:47 PM

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I dunno how to do BSPs even

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3D models are gonna be easier to throw in honestly

royal wave Nov 23, 2016, 9:40 PM

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Setting up a stream session for making my map

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Nvm I remember how much I can never get twitch to work

unreal oyster Nov 23, 2016, 9:45 PM

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uh, what's the issue?

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i could potentially help

formal breach Nov 23, 2016, 9:45 PM

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Skulltag mapping is so much easier

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You have more textures

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More ideas to work with

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More enemies

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More props

unreal oyster Nov 23, 2016, 9:46 PM

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and no playerbase

formal breach Nov 23, 2016, 9:46 PM

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You could always work with Zandronum as a port

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Skulltag is supported by Zandro luckily

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Sadly getting Skulltag working well with Zandro mapping is a shitfest

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Well, until I realized using skulltag_content is easier to do

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Why is Skulltag so abandoned nowadays

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Like not even the source port

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The content files used for Zandro

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I wanna make a mappack that uses Skulltag stuff

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Of course though it'll be for Zandronum

royal wave Nov 23, 2016, 9:58 PM

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don't worry about it, no longer in the mood

plush sapphire Nov 23, 2016, 9:59 PM

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Well if/when you are, I'd be happy to try to help you out. It's mostly what I do is help folks out with broadcasting.

royal wave Nov 23, 2016, 10:02 PM

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and gzdoom builder crashed five minutes in and I had just did a huge ammount of work, now I've lost motivation to pick it back up for tonight

plush sapphire Nov 23, 2016, 10:03 PM

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That's rough...

formal breach Nov 23, 2016, 10:52 PM

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brb making a skulltag map for zandro

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if i can though actually

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ill try and optimize a skulltag invasion map for d4d

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well probably not but

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ill do the skulltag map thingy

royal wave Nov 24, 2016, 5:09 PM

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Okay gonna try streaming again but on a different site maybe

plush sapphire Nov 24, 2016, 5:11 PM

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Alrighty. If ya need any help just ask.

royal wave Nov 24, 2016, 5:19 PM

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Change of plans. Can't stream

haughty flower Nov 24, 2016, 5:25 PM

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You know I've been streaming doom lately right?

royal wave Nov 24, 2016, 5:28 PM

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Okay

royal wave Nov 24, 2016, 8:27 PM

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📎 IMG_2582.PNG

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📎 IMG_2581.PNG

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📎 IMG_2580.PNG

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I make pretty map

hazy lantern Nov 24, 2016, 8:39 PM

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@elder ridge Is @royal wave map pretty?

elder ridgeBOT Nov 24, 2016, 8:39 PM

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What do you look like??

royal wave Nov 24, 2016, 8:39 PM

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wut

unreal oyster Nov 24, 2016, 8:40 PM

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looks nice. reminds me of ice cap zone from Sonic 3

royal wave Nov 24, 2016, 8:40 PM

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I was going for a cold look, thanks!

tardy hawk Nov 24, 2016, 8:40 PM

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The textures look very similar to it

prisma saddle Nov 24, 2016, 8:43 PM

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I'd recommend adding some colour variation :P

royal wave Nov 24, 2016, 8:44 PM

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It's gonna have it. Part of the surprise is getting the player used to the drab :p

formal breach Nov 24, 2016, 10:39 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/prryZjH.png
http://i.imgur.com/9bg5Bje.png

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crap

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There

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Some old Skulltag map I made

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Last decent map I made

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I wanna tweak it though because I really like it.

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I might Skulltagify some other maps I made

haughty flower Nov 25, 2016, 5:46 PM

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kewl

formal breach Nov 25, 2016, 8:01 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/QOqYMTo.png
http://i.imgur.com/nnkw0IW.png
http://i.imgur.com/LpZdQ6n.png

plush sapphire Nov 25, 2016, 10:36 PM

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Question: In Doom 2016 Snapmap when utlizing the NextMap logic... upon entering the next map do players carry over their previous weapons/ammo?

royal wave Nov 25, 2016, 10:41 PM

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That's something to test, isn't it?

plush sapphire Nov 25, 2016, 10:44 PM

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I suppose there are ways... Haven't published maps yet so idk lol.

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Was hoping someone knew off-hand.

hazy lantern Nov 26, 2016, 12:05 AM

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@plush sapphire That will come in a future update. Currently no data will be transferred between levels.

plush sapphire Nov 26, 2016, 12:17 AM

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Thank you! That is very helpful to know as I continue making my 4-player campaign here. @hazy lantern

weak lodge Nov 27, 2016, 8:18 PM

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so i'm working on a dm map

unreal oyster Nov 27, 2016, 8:22 PM

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@weak lodge check #announcements 😉 we'll be doing classic doom deathmatch events so once your map is done we could trial it as a server

weak lodge Nov 27, 2016, 8:23 PM

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nice

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i'll fetch a image of it

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https://gyazo.com/1d589f743c0628ee550ebf6eaaeb6692

Gyazo

weak lodge Nov 27, 2016, 9:16 PM

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https://gyazo.com/52d582f0941bee8f55af105985ee4c2b

Gyazo

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working on the map

royal wave Nov 27, 2016, 9:19 PM

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I could work on a few deathmatch maps for the server

frank basin Nov 27, 2016, 9:19 PM

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I have made one DM map, it's not pretty, but if anyone is interested, I'll post it.

unreal oyster Nov 27, 2016, 9:21 PM

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we can try it out next saturday as part of the event @frank basin

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if you want that

frank basin Nov 27, 2016, 9:21 PM

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ok, give me a sec

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📎 lon_dm.wad

unreal oyster Nov 27, 2016, 9:24 PM

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alright, i put it in the servers pwads folder, ready to go 😃

frank basin Nov 27, 2016, 9:25 PM

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cool

weak lodge Nov 27, 2016, 9:42 PM

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https://gyazo.com/1939eda8b864d0842edfdb7e47bbd4a1

Gyazo

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dm map is pretty much done

royal wave Nov 27, 2016, 9:42 PM

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Coolio

weak lodge Nov 27, 2016, 9:43 PM

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have to add the exit and the rest of the weapons but we're gravy

weak lodge Nov 27, 2016, 10:48 PM

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map's done

📎 katatonia.wad

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did a quick test of it and i feel like it'd be better played in duel but oh well

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 6:27 PM

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what should i make

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 6:59 PM

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Well, haven't seen anyone make a Rube Goldberg Machine in Doom yet

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:02 PM

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@torn timber that would be impossiballs

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:02 PM

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I doubt that

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:03 PM

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it absolutely wouldn't be impossible

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:03 PM

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just a matter of how long someone would be willing to make it

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:03 PM

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in fact it'd be rather easy

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:03 PM

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shut up is no

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:03 PM

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just boring to make

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:03 PM

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i want to make a map with a fuckton of enemies

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like

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you have a pistol

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and 96326934 barons of hell

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:04 PM

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I'd consider it a mapping challenge just for screwing around with various functions of things to see if you could get them to interact in unorthodox ways

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:04 PM

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i cant even make a button open a door

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how am i supposed to do that

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:04 PM

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Then it's probably not something for you until you learn how to do it

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:04 PM

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then you should learn the basics of doom mapping

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:05 PM

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i'l learn the basics of your femenine parent

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or for short, your mother

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 7:05 PM

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Scathing

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:05 PM

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:V

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 7:05 PM

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Got any more insults from hot topic?

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:05 PM

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real insulting there dude

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also completely unwarranted

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:05 PM

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oh no

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here's my map

#

📎 unknown.png

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 7:07 PM

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it's a map alright

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:07 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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i didn't ask for criticism, don't make me more sad than i am right now

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btw

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 7:07 PM

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well you're getting it anyways

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It's a map alright

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:07 PM

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ok thank you

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:07 PM

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real edgy nazi symbol there mate (and yes i know it's technically the wrong way round but it really doesn't matter)

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:07 PM

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it's meant to be looked at from a different angle

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 7:08 PM

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No gut, don't insult his creative visions, Clearly we don't posses a high enough caliber of game theory and design to understand this "masterpiece"

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:08 PM

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i never said that

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holy fuck

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i also never called it a masterpiece

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i know it's shit

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happy?

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 7:09 PM

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I'm never happy 😃

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:11 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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There, how to make a switch operate a door

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:12 PM

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im trying to make a door get activated when you grab the chainsaw/ walk on the swastika

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but no idea of how to

#

i tried with the tags

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but idk where to put W1 thing

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:12 PM

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on some linedefs roughly the size of the weapon

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:13 PM

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📎 unknown.png

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 7:13 PM

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you can assign an action to items when picked up the same way you can assign actions to lines when used

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:13 PM

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only in UDMF

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:13 PM

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And then there's how to do it by walking over a linedef

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:13 PM

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they said "W1" so I assumed doom/boom format

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:14 PM

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you either need the walk trigger special for opening a door, a switch trigger special

#

tag the sector you want to be the door or ceiling raise or whatever

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:15 PM

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yes, we both know how this works

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:15 PM

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then link that

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:15 PM

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oh sorry

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:15 PM

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I know you know

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:15 PM

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your name is pretty close to miloteza's, got confused 😛

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:15 PM

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but Miloteza doesn't

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:15 PM

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minesae

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:15 PM

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i thought it was milo speaking heh

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:15 PM

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what setttings did you give the linedef

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and what settings did you give the door

#

📎 unknown.png

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:18 PM

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You just use Action: 2 - W1 Door Open Stay

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or if you want a fast one,

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:19 PM

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on both linedef and door

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?

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:19 PM

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Action: 109 - W1 Door Open Stay (fast)

#

you only put the action on the linedef that's being activated

#

you tag both

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with the same number

#

you obviously don't want to activate the door you're trying to activate by walking over the edge of the door 😛

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:20 PM

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can tall teach me?

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:21 PM

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What do you need to learn about?

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:21 PM

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about making a doom map

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:22 PM

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I'm assuming you have a Doom or Doom2 IWAD already

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:22 PM

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yea

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:22 PM

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Best bet is to get GZDoom Builder

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:23 PM

#

^

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gzdoom builder is goode

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:24 PM

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https://devbuilds.drdteam.org/doombuilder2-gzdb/

Rachael Alexanderson, soulpriestess@drdteam.org

SVN Builds

#

I guess the latest update was a couple of days ago

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:24 PM

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ok

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:25 PM

#

When you have that up, go to:
Tools > Game Configurations
and look for whatever engine and format you're interested in making a map for

#

and then add your IWAD as a resource

#

Then you should be set

#

If you don't know which one to work with, we'd need to know more about what engine you're playing Doom on currently

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:27 PM

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gzdoom, dosbox, zdoom

#

or

#

zandronum uh

#

gldoom

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idk

#

@haughty flower which one u running

#

zandronum

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:29 PM

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Then you would add it to either of these:
Zandronum: Doom 2 (Doom Format)
Zandronum: Doom 2 (UDMF)

#

Doom Format is going to be like the vanilla functionality, UDMF would be the more updated one

#

some also use the Hexen format, but it's a bit dated now compared to UDMF

#

I'm sure Gutawer has more info on the setup

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:30 PM

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Doom: Doom 2 (Doom Format) - ensures 100% compatibility with original doom
Boom: Doom 2 (Doom Format) - compatibility with original doom lost, but you gain extra features usable in the boom sourceport
X: Doom 2 (Hexen Format) - don't use this one
X: Doom 2 (UDMF Format) - use this one for full features, but please note that your maps will be less played by the doom community by using it (replace X with the port you want - Zandronum is okay, but for Singleplayer maps i'd recommend using GZDoom)

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:31 PM

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i use original doom format

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other formats are faggot shit

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:31 PM

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GZDoom will have more features to work with

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:31 PM

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unfortunately a lot of the doom community uses a source port called PrBoom+ which does not support ZDoom features or UDMF, so your map will get less plays by people using PrBoom+ if you do choose UDMF

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doom format is a pain to do literally anything

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:32 PM

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not rly

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doom format is ez

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better than UDMF

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:32 PM

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most stuff in UDMF is completely modular allowing for so many possible things

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:32 PM

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Chubzdoomer has some decent tutorials, though they're on Doom Builder 2, you should still be able to follow along or at least see how the stuff works in general. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCE835098C82D8F24

YouTube

Chubzdoomer

Doom Builder 2 Tutorials

▶ Play video

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:32 PM

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im so confused so what do i have to do to make my doom map or a doom game with different maps

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:32 PM

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also you get no ACS in Doom Format

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:32 PM

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@haughty flower just choose normal Doom: Doom 2 (Doom Format)

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:33 PM

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Doom Builder is esentially your tool for making maps in WAD files

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:33 PM

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xd

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:33 PM

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so you make your map

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and then just load it in

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should work fine

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:34 PM

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if you use zandronum as your main port you might as well use UDMF so you can actually use zandronum features

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:34 PM

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if you're not planning to do anything fancy, you can just load them up in Doom Explorer/Doom Seeker or just drag your file onto the Zandronum.exe

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:34 PM

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Boom Format is acceptable but fuck Doom Format

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:34 PM

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using Doom Format is just going to make it more confusing to get into right away

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:34 PM

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nobody uses the original exe/chocolate doom so you are hurting yourself for no reason

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:35 PM

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doom format

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now

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:35 PM

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^ This guy doesn't know what he's doing either

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:36 PM

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i do know

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@haughty flower select doom format

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is best

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im trying

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:36 PM

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Please don't

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:36 PM

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no

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people use

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doom format needed

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:36 PM

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If you're trying to make something modern, just go ahead and use UDMF

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:36 PM

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who the hell even uses doom format anymore

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:37 PM

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but if you want it to be playable on old doom

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i do

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shove a finger up your anus

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pls

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doom format forever

elder ridgeBOT Nov 28, 2016, 7:37 PM

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:ok_hand: Miloteza#1375 has been warned.

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:37 PM

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wew

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lad

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@haughty flower if you want good mod, use doom format

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if you want bad mod

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use boom or UDMF

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:38 PM

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Not sure who's deleting messages there 😛

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:38 PM

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@haughty flower You're on 2 warnings now, so I'd watch out

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just a warning

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:38 PM

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yeah and when do i get banned

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5603265 warnings?

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:38 PM

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3 is ban territory

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:38 PM

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no

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ok kratos

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if you want your mod ot be compatible

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:38 PM

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So don't be a brat if you want to stick around

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:39 PM

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i wouldn't ban you right away, probably a mute first

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:39 PM

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@haughty flower if you want your mod to be played with original dewm

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use doom format

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if you want 5 year olds to play your mod with zdoom or some shit, use UDMF

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:39 PM

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nobody uses the original doom exe anymore so why is that relevant?

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:39 PM

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i do

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:39 PM

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you aren't the majority though

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:39 PM

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nobody

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majority

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😂

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:39 PM

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you don't limit yourself to pander to a minority

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you ever heard of "hyperbole"?

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:39 PM

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This channel is supposed to be here to help people map and mod, so why don't we start being a little more helpful?

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:39 PM

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might wanna look that up

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:39 PM

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ok so what the real format i should use

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Doom

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or Boom

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:40 PM

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UDMF

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:40 PM

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im confused of what i should use

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:40 PM

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it depends on what map you wanna make

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:40 PM

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use Boom

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exactly

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:40 PM

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do not listen to Miloteza on this one

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:40 PM

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i'm gay

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:40 PM

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@haughty flower what sort of map are you planning to make?

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:40 PM

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if its some simple shit, just use doom format

hazy lantern Nov 28, 2016, 7:40 PM

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@haughty flower May I use the purge command again?

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:40 PM

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i honestly i dont know yet i just wanna see of hwat i can do in doom builder but i dont know how to use it

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@hazy lantern no pls

hazy lantern Nov 28, 2016, 7:40 PM

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okay

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:40 PM

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the purge command has scarred me hard

prisma saddle Nov 28, 2016, 7:41 PM

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I just use UDMF for all my crap.

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:41 PM

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@haughty flower i'd recommend UDMF format then, it involves much less hacky workarounds for things

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:41 PM

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@haughty flower use doom this time, and then use boom next time

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:41 PM

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making the general process easier

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:41 PM

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and then the third time you use it, use UDMF

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and then stick with the one you like the most

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~~probably doom~~

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:41 PM

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@haughty flower you wanna turn down the condescending tone a bit?

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:41 PM

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no idea what that is

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:42 PM

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you are speaking very bossily basically

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coming off as really rude to me

prisma saddle Nov 28, 2016, 7:42 PM

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I agree with that Goots.

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:42 PM

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Gutawer, it might be better if you just PM Kratos the details

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:43 PM

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no

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u

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 7:43 PM

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Wait guys, let me get my popcorn first!

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🍿

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Okay continue

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:43 PM

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give me some ples

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 7:43 PM

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no

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You're being an ass

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only good boys get popcorn

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:44 PM

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GH05TF4C3 he doesnt want to share

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🍔 well i got a burger

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xd

prisma saddle Nov 28, 2016, 7:44 PM

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May I have some Kevan?

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:44 PM

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passes ZeHatsu a burger

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here's an alternative

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 7:44 PM

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gives some 🍿 to @prisma saddle

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He asked for popcorn

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:45 PM

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no

prisma saddle Nov 28, 2016, 7:45 PM

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Thank you Kevan.

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:45 PM

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passes ZeHatsu a bottle of cheese grains to add to thee popcorn

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have this

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or whatever its called

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but the cheese toppings to add to the popcorn

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:45 PM

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ffs

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:45 PM

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my map is best map 2016

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royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 7:46 PM

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it's a map alright

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:46 PM

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no it's not

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it's a pap

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or a mam

prisma saddle Nov 28, 2016, 7:46 PM

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10/10 best hallway.

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:46 PM

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what hallway

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which

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why

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who

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when

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 7:47 PM

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it's your "masterpiece"

prisma saddle Nov 28, 2016, 7:47 PM

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The swastika is a nice touch.

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:48 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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it was just a vertex test

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the swastika

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 7:48 PM

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Clearly none of us have the same comprehension levels to appreciate this work of art

prisma saddle Nov 28, 2016, 7:48 PM

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Oh.

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 7:48 PM

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🍿

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:49 PM

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stop being a dick kevan

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 7:50 PM

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I'm not being a dick

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I'm coming to terms that I lack the mental comprehension to enjoy that map

prisma saddle Nov 28, 2016, 7:50 PM

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I hope I haven't been bothering you all.

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 7:50 PM

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You're fine

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Have some popcorn

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:50 PM

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and me?

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:51 PM

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@prisma saddle you are probably the politest person in the entire server, don't worry about that 😛

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:51 PM

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kevan

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do i get popcorn

plush sapphire Nov 28, 2016, 7:51 PM

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Breast map evar 6/9

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:51 PM

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go away you memer clarinetist

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die

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leave

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now

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rethink life

plush sapphire Nov 28, 2016, 7:51 PM

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Pffft

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:51 PM

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pls

fair wing Nov 28, 2016, 7:52 PM

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[funny ow the edge meme]

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:52 PM

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ew

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not that

elder ridgeBOT Nov 28, 2016, 7:52 PM

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:ok_hand: Miloteza#1375 has been warned.

plush sapphire Nov 28, 2016, 7:52 PM

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That's ban territory now, right?

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 7:52 PM

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you called me a dick

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you don't get popcorn

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:52 PM

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wow

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:53 PM

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it is, yes. but i wouldn't do it instantly

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:53 PM

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i called you a dick because you were being ironic

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:53 PM

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3 warnings just means i can if i want to

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:53 PM

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about the "we doatn have mental comprehesnion blah blah vlah"

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holy shit

plush sapphire Nov 28, 2016, 7:53 PM

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I'm not pushing or anything. It'd just be nice to see actual maps and map talk going up my screen while I work on maps.

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 7:53 PM

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^

plush sapphire Nov 28, 2016, 7:53 PM

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Instead of whatever this is...

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:53 PM

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actual map

📎 unknown.png

plush sapphire Nov 28, 2016, 7:53 PM

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Yeah, great. 👍

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:54 PM

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thank

fair wing Nov 28, 2016, 7:54 PM

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we already saw that

plush sapphire Nov 28, 2016, 7:54 PM

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📎 FailFish.png

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:54 PM

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thats not a map

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or is it

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 7:54 PM

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it would be a stretch to call your screenshots "maps" either

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but here we are

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 7:54 PM

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thanks dude

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wait

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i was gonna try something out but

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oh nvm

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im gonna make a giant face in doom

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as a map

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@plush sapphire

📎 unknown.png

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bootiful?

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i have doom builder opne but so confused

plush sapphire Nov 28, 2016, 8:07 PM

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Needs a hand with a ring on one finger.

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:07 PM

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open*

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 8:07 PM

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yup it's a map

plush sapphire Nov 28, 2016, 8:08 PM

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Maybe a door or two... maybe not. Maybe just 9001 Cyberdemons.

dawn saffron Nov 28, 2016, 8:08 PM

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http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/816/782/cce.jpg

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 8:08 PM

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do you see "Tools" at the top?

dawn saffron Nov 28, 2016, 8:08 PM

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https://gyazo.com/47c06d4791cd83fb8016fcda579b96c4

Gyazo

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yeah

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simple tools

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 8:09 PM

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oh pfft

dawn saffron Nov 28, 2016, 8:09 PM

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😛

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 8:10 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

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@haughty flower Then just add your Doom2.wad

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 8:11 PM

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Doesn't GZDoombuilder remeber the assets per map you make now?

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:11 PM

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i got doom builder 2 thing

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 8:11 PM

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It has for a while Kevan

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only do it with the GZDoom setting if you're going to use GZDoom

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 8:13 PM

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well, you should also add Zandronum.pk3/ZDoom.pk3/GZDoom.pk3 but make sure to set those to not be used when running the engine

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 8:13 PM

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Then
File > New Map

Script Type: ZDoom ACS
Level name: MAP01```
Click OK, then you're ready to start

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 8:15 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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should look like this when you go to create a map

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 8:15 PM

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Yeah, for those other files, you can just check off the box that says "Exlude this resource from testing parameters" when adding it as a resource.

frank basin Nov 28, 2016, 8:15 PM

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Are you really supposed to use the gzdoom.pk3? I've never used it

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 8:16 PM

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I suppose it might have some actors in it

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 8:16 PM

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yes, if you want sound environment mode to work properly

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 8:16 PM

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that are already hardcoded

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 8:16 PM

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📎 unknown.png

frank basin Nov 28, 2016, 8:16 PM

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hmm

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 8:16 PM

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else you don't get this list

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you get an empty one

frank basin Nov 28, 2016, 8:16 PM

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good to know

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:17 PM

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except he didn't spawn guns

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pistol vs 100 barons of hell

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but i have everything vs a lot of demons

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 8:17 PM

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is that supposed to be pimples

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:18 PM

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wat

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no

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 8:18 PM

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looks like he had a serious blemish breakout to me

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:19 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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time to

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 8:19 PM

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eric harris' wads at least didn't put a teleporter texture on a non-square sector

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 8:19 PM

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Jesus make him wash his face it's getting worse

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:19 PM

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where is that teleporter texture

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 8:19 PM

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📎 unknown.png

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:19 PM

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that's an eye

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if you look closely

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it's meant to be a face

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 8:19 PM

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with a teleporter texture

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:19 PM

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because its the first white texture i foudn

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and only one, i think

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 8:20 PM

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SHAWN2

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 8:20 PM

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look under silver

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:20 PM

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ever heard "the hair is lava"

📎 unknown.png

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me neither

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cant find shawn nor silver

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but i found this

📎 unknown.png

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so iguess thats better

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 8:21 PM

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also, i dunno if this is just me but i really wouldn't be bringing up one of the columbine killers when you're on 3 warnings, i won't punish you for it but i'd avoid edgy subjects really

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 8:21 PM

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that many line defs is gonna make the node builder chug if you don't break that thing up into smaller sectors

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:21 PM

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dont worry i am expert

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 8:21 PM

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Edgy in general

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:21 PM

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mathematician

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also its just a joke wad

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so who cares

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 8:21 PM

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idk why people treat the entirety of the internet like it's 4chan

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 8:22 PM

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nah, linedef count doesn't really aff- oh, wait. he's mapping in doom format. nevermind.

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 8:22 PM

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yup

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 8:22 PM

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in UDMF however, no restrictions like a linedef limit, happy days!

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 8:22 PM

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Not talking about limit

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talking about the node builder

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 8:22 PM

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well UDMF uses a plain text coordinate system so it doesn't really even build nodes anyway

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unless we're talking about GLNODES which are different anyway

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 8:23 PM

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Well that's ebcause it lets Zdoom do that for it

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 8:23 PM

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yea

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:23 PM

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im going to place barrels everywhere

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ez kill

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 8:23 PM

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but you'd have to have a real bad pc for that to really matter in 2016

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 8:23 PM

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no need to worry about nodes when the only engines that support you are the ones that do it for you

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Or be dumb like me :3

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I made a huge ass maze and thought it was a good idea to make it one sector

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I forget why, there was a reason

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made GZDB chug and GZDoom wouldn't launch the map xD

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:24 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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barrel

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also im playing on gzdoom

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 8:25 PM

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also, kinda skipped by this but:

[8:21 PM] Miloteza: so who cares```
basically the same logic used to come to "IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO" being a valid excuse for being a cunt

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just saying

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something being a joke doesn't mean it's not edgy or offensive

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 8:26 PM

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Gut don't reason with him

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:26 PM

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but

unreal oyster Nov 28, 2016, 8:26 PM

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eh, i shouldn't

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 8:26 PM

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All we can hope for is he starts behaving

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:26 PM

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but-

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 8:26 PM

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good luck with that

plush sapphire Nov 28, 2016, 8:26 PM

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o7

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:27 PM

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oh

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so bored

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aaaaaa

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:c

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ok

hazy lantern Nov 28, 2016, 8:28 PM

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@haughty flower Ever experienced a "softban"?

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:30 PM

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no please thanks

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dont

hazy lantern Nov 28, 2016, 8:30 PM

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Good.

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:51 PM

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hey guys

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my mouse finally owrks

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cause my old one was broken

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idk what to map tho

royal wave Nov 28, 2016, 8:52 PM

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you could map a doom map

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or a source engine map

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 8:59 PM

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source maps are meh

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as in, my skills to do so

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i always have leaks

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this is so confusing

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wat

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 9:03 PM

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@haughty flower What are you confused about?

haughty flower Nov 28, 2016, 9:04 PM

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how to do this

torn timber Nov 28, 2016, 9:04 PM

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Have you read all the stuff above we've been sending you?