#classic-doom-maps-mods | DOOM | Page 33

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 9:36 PM

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all you need to do is circle strafe + shoot

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 9:37 PM

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I'll put in a few chaingunners more just for you ❤

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 9:37 PM

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hitscanners can help i guess

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i do think the red lighting doesn't really do anything good for the map, colored lighting is good when used tastefully but it's distracting when over the entire map

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 9:39 PM

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then you'd probably not enjoy my current project, haha

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 9:40 PM

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and the room layouts were a bit too open, making it more into a circlestrafe fest than anything else, also quite overly symmetrical which is kinda boring

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put some cover in, experiment with height variation to put the player in tricky situations, y'know

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everything was kinda on the same vertical axis, which i'd advise against

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especially in a map made for gzdoom, forcing the player to aim up and down is really useful game design wise

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 9:42 PM

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my maps are kinda flat now that you mention it

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 9:43 PM

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honestly - if you want good advise, i'd recommend submitting a map to a stream like http://twitch.tv/JimmyBTSX or http://twitch.tv/St_Alfonzo

Twitch

JimmyBTSX - Twitch

On hiatus until November. :<

Twitch

St_Alfonzo - Twitch

[Newstuff] Ultimatum - Riding on the Backs of Giants

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both of them are good mappers

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and can give quite good critical advise,

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i've had alfonzo play through a few of my maps and it helps a lot

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although i don't think either has streamed for a while, which is a shame

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i believe Jimmy is doing uni stuff

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not sure 'bout alfonzo

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and also - @royal wave - do yourself a favour and submit it to Doomworld and ZDoom Forums instead of /r/doom, honestly

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 9:46 PM

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I did

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dead in water there too

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rip :^)

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 9:47 PM

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at zdoom or doomworld?

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 9:47 PM

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zdoom

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 9:47 PM

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gimme the forum link?

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 9:47 PM

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if I can find it

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 9:48 PM

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http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=49560&p=913221#p913221 here?

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 9:48 PM

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yup

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 9:50 PM

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but yeah - your detailing style is definitely quite good, but i think you are focusing more on detail than gameplay, in a way

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work on varying map design and using weird shapes rather than prettying everything up

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eg here - the pews, while they fit the scene, just get in the way of a running player and make the architecture all bumpy and annoying to navigate

📎 QKA1wR5LPSsdKc6yU81QWWBI_t13ahScy_8u11PY_uY.png

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also, a lot of the rooms were like this, just big, long and not particularly interesting due to a symmetrical layout and lack of obstacles or interesting shapes

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also, i feel the copy, paste and retexture of E3M8 is a bit lazy but lots of mappers do it so i won't shout at you for that

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also - about the custom archviles - i don't know exactly what it was, but they seemed to go into their pain chance on every single shot, making them far easier to fight than they should normally be

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don't know quite what that was about

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but you may wanna look into it

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and if that's intentional - i have to ask, why?

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i'm not saying it's a bad choice, just a slightly strange one, lol

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 9:58 PM

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I wanted to make the demons look like they were working at a forge

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hence why the looping animations

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and yeah, i did put too much focus into detail

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Originally I had them super weak and move really slow

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 9:58 PM

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yeah i know what you did with the archviles, i'm just wondering why the line PainChance 9999 is in there

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it kinda breaks the archviles balance, as it only takes one shot to stop them attacking

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 9:59 PM

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did I do that? Huh. I forgot then

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Maybe I'll revisit it. i'm not happy with how I handled the last room leading to the end

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Mind if I ask you to take another look at something I've been experimenting with?

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:03 PM

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sure, i could

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also - i'd recommend you join the Joy of Mapping discord chat, you can find it in the dw forum link here https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/90376-the-joy-of-mapping-ii-beta-released/

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lots of more experienced mappers in there

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:05 PM

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Thanks!

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:06 PM

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and if you can be bothered with IRC, the #zdoom and #doomtwid channels on OFTC are quite good as well although i don't really like IRC myself

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:07 PM

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i don't like irc either

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dropbox is being dumb, give me a sec

prisma saddle Oct 31, 2016, 10:08 PM

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Haven't used IRC

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:09 PM

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it does it's job, it's just old and flawed by today's standards

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because of the way it works, it doesn't keep messages unless you were connected when that message was sent

prisma saddle Oct 31, 2016, 10:10 PM

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But then again, I'm very new to this community.

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:10 PM

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and most IRC clients just suck because they are mostly quite old

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:10 PM

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Oh one project I can say that I'm really happy with the end product was when I remade Sky May Be in decorate

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There's maybe a handful of things I should touch up, but more or less it's identical

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:10 PM

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but wai

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:11 PM

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It doesn't play nice in the zdoom engine

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so i made it

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:11 PM

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the sky may be doesn't play nice in any engine, lol

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:11 PM

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It plays nice in vanilla

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:11 PM

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i mean, define "playing nice" 😛

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if you mean it works, then sure lol

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:12 PM

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Well, for example, vanilla requires the .bat file to operate

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:12 PM

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yeah dude i know i'm just joking around

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:12 PM

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someone ported that to dehacked, but it refused to work on Doom 2 PWADS

prisma saddle Oct 31, 2016, 10:12 PM

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The only map I've completed is "Of Cogs and Rooks"

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:12 PM

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So I converted it into decorate and I'm happy

prisma saddle Oct 31, 2016, 10:12 PM

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And that was ass.

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:13 PM

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The creator even approved. He gave me the final version of the map that wasn't included in the official release

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:13 PM

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i know, i'm just saying i don't think the sky may be "plays nicely" in any engine, lol. it's entirely designed to play horribly

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just a lil joke

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:14 PM

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Well i made it play nice so in the off chance someone wants to use it for some sort of personal project, there you go

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I even managed to preserve the crash when you open the door you're not supposed to open

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:15 PM

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does the original crash method not work in zdoom?

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:15 PM

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anyways, here's my current project. Far from done and probably going to go through it's fifth map revision after what you've pointed out https://www.dropbox.com/s/6kw21snc1mlhxcx/defrag.pk3?dl=0

Dropbox

defrag.pk3

Shared with Dropbox

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:15 PM

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i wouldn't be surprised

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:15 PM

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The original requires it to be ran on vanilla DOS

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as it boots you back into it with a final message "I told you so"

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For my version it freezes the player, turns the screen black, prints the message, and then gives a gun with an infinite loop crash

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before I had it just flat out kill the player, but I changed it since it wouldn't of made the player force restart the game

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:19 PM

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uhh - with that map, is it supposed to be ridiculously (like unplayably) dark or am i missing something?

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which light mode should i be using?

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@royal wave

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:20 PM

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it's supposed to be dark

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:20 PM

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but like, this dark?

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royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:20 PM

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you do find glowsticks and a flashlight

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have you killed the demon?

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:21 PM

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no, i haven't killed anything yet, i can barely navigate with this light

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:21 PM

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That's odd

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:21 PM

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however if i change my light mode to "Software"

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it's fine

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:21 PM

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there's supposed to be lights from the ceiling

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:21 PM

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is that the light mode you use to test?

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:21 PM

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let me check

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Where is that setting

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:22 PM

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the lights from the ceiling are there, they just don't extend far enough

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display > opengl > preferences > sector light mode

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:23 PM

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I have it on bright, jeesus

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:23 PM

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even bright isn't bright enough

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:23 PM

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Oh durr

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I have my dynamic lights cranked to max >-<

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Put them to full and you'll see what I'm seeing

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:24 PM

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urr, where is the dynlight strength setting?

prisma saddle Oct 31, 2016, 10:24 PM

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I have the weirdest settings

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:25 PM

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Display > OpenGL > Dynamic light

prisma saddle Oct 31, 2016, 10:25 PM

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@unreal oyster didn't they remove that in the latest builds?

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:25 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/Z1b4Lm3.png

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not there

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they have likely removed it

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to make mapping with dynlights more uniform

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which makes a lot of sense to me

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it's probably a good idea to do all your testing with the default settings

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:26 PM

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Yeah

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Wasn't aware my stuff was brighter than normal

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AND IF MY SCREENSHOT WOULD UPLOAD

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:28 PM

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you uploading it through discord?

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:29 PM

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Yes

prisma saddle Oct 31, 2016, 10:29 PM

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I really like the pallete tone map.

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:29 PM

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Internet is being dumb today

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:29 PM

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oh, k

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also - back to the sky may be for a sec - how is the crash done from a technical standpoint?

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i didn't realise mappers in the 1990s could provide a crash message

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nevermind how they force the engine to crash in the first place

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:30 PM

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the bar is full why isn't it sending >.>

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:31 PM

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i mean getting zdoom to crash is ezpz

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:31 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D25Xn0C_OQ

YouTube

tapewolf

DOOM - Sky May Be / The Blessed Engine

▶ Play video

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Ten seconds in

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:32 PM

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yea i know how it works, but how did the mapper actually do that? in the dos exe

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:32 PM

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Idk

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It runs off of a .bat file

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So it's probably in there

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:33 PM

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oh, it's probably done through exe hacking then

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don't know if DeHacked possesses that power but idk

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:33 PM

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I don't think it was dehacked to begin with

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:33 PM

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oh, ok

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:33 PM

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I know someone mad a dehacked for zdoom afterwards

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But that didn't function with other mods. Could only be played on its own

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:34 PM

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yeah, that's DeH for ya

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:35 PM

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So then cue me. I make decorate version. People were happy

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It was such a surprise I even got the "Why you trying to make this shit, you're jealous of brutal doom" in the thread 😄

prisma saddle Oct 31, 2016, 10:37 PM

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That's the Brutal Doom fan base for you.

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:38 PM

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"I have a question that I want answered though. Why is everyone making shit nowadays? Is it because you think you can't be equal to Sarge? Or do you just like to troll and upload your stupid shit?
Be creative like Wild Weasel with his "Accessories to Murder" for example."

unreal oyster Oct 31, 2016, 10:38 PM

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sounds like a troll to me honestly

royal wave Oct 31, 2016, 10:38 PM

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Banned, so you're probably right

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http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45757

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if you're interested

frank basin Nov 1, 2016, 2:49 AM

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I think I messed up my GZDoom builder

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things aren't showing up in the same way they used to
When I hover over and select things, it doesn't change things visually
really annoying in visual mode

frank basin Nov 1, 2016, 3:15 AM

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I have completed a first draft of my DM map

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if anyone wants to critique it

📎 lon_dm.wad

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i haven't done any texturing or balancing

tawny lion Nov 2, 2016, 12:59 PM

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cool

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right on it

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i'll try to break it aswell

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lol

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it's a good DM map

frank basin Nov 2, 2016, 1:19 PM

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Oh, I didn't see that anyone had responded here, @tawny lion I updated it slightly yesterday

📎 lon_dm.wad

tawny lion Nov 2, 2016, 1:19 PM

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the map was fine

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i just didn't like the dead ends

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that's it

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i'll look into the updated one later

frank basin Nov 2, 2016, 1:21 PM

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ok

analog oriole Nov 4, 2016, 2:07 AM

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got VR? Check this one out https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwE6dxM0O2PsLWxwNVpOYkFXdDA/view

Google Docs

doom_001_equirec.png

formal breach Nov 4, 2016, 5:18 PM

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Someone needs to extract the skyboxes from Doom 2016 to use for classic Doom mapping

royal wave Nov 4, 2016, 5:29 PM

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someone did already

unreal oyster Nov 4, 2016, 5:35 PM

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@royal wave where?

royal wave Nov 4, 2016, 5:35 PM

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it was on r/doom

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nvm they were screenshots

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/59et44/doom_2016_skybox_screenshots/

Doom 2016 skybox screenshots • /r/Doom

169 points and 19 comments so far on reddit

unreal oyster Nov 4, 2016, 5:37 PM

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yeah, pretty sure the actual skyboxes would be impossible to backport

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taking screenshots then using the screenshots is an okay method i guess though

dawn saffron Nov 4, 2016, 5:50 PM

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i have more or less finished my 3-map campaign in snapmap, it's bound in a neat way, so you can just jump into the first map: 73RNUNFP

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it will take you into lobbies of the second and the third map respectively

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the third map doesn't work with vulkan api for some reason, so i'm sorry to cut out you vulkan users like that

unreal oyster Nov 4, 2016, 6:00 PM

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sounds like a bug in the engine, doesn't it?

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@dawn saffron any idea why that happens?

dawn saffron Nov 4, 2016, 6:02 PM

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nope

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yeah, it does sound like it

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the game just crashes when it tries to load my map

unreal oyster Nov 4, 2016, 6:03 PM

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@torpid jetty is there anywhere you can report bugs in doom 2016?

torpid jetty Nov 4, 2016, 6:47 PM

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Yup! https://beta-community.bethesda.net/category/11/doom-2016

Bethesda.net Community Beta

DOOM (2016)

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Just head to the support section and pick your platform. We've just opened these new Bethesda forums last week, but it's a great place to leave bug reports, feedback, etc.

royal wave Nov 4, 2016, 6:48 PM

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Woah legit bethesda people

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this discord server is awesome

torpid jetty Nov 4, 2016, 6:49 PM

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It's pretty great!

royal wave Nov 4, 2016, 6:49 PM

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Trying hard not to fan boy over this, haha

torpid jetty Nov 4, 2016, 6:49 PM

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😃

royal wave Nov 4, 2016, 6:50 PM

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More game companies need to do this

unreal oyster Nov 4, 2016, 6:52 PM

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@dawn saffron you might wanna report that vulkan thing there then

torpid jetty Nov 4, 2016, 6:58 PM

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Will send to the team to take a look

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what's the ID for that third map?

dawn saffron Nov 4, 2016, 6:59 PM

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yep, i can't right now

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it's called "heavy sorrows" v0.13

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i'm gonna write a report to the forums in about an hour

tawny lion Nov 4, 2016, 7:00 PM

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sounds like a name for david cage game

formal breach Nov 4, 2016, 7:22 PM

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I need to practice mapping

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For classic Doom that is

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I don't even own the new game yet

dawn saffron Nov 4, 2016, 7:45 PM

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alreight booting doom to check the id of the map

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8DM5BZLG

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alright, i'm off to post to the forums

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@torpid jetty https://beta-community.bethesda.net/topic/3471/my-snapmap-doesn-t-work-on-vulkan-api

Bethesda.net Community Beta

My Snapmap doesn't work on Vulkan API

So at this point I have made three maps in sort of the same manner, but the third one seems to crash for people who use Vulkan instead of OpenGL. It crashes while loading, so player don't see the tiniest part of the map. I will be glad to provide further ...

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sorry if this is redundant, but i hope it will help make the game better 😃

torpid jetty Nov 4, 2016, 8:01 PM

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Thank you!

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Sending to our team now to take a look

dawn saffron Nov 4, 2016, 8:02 PM

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thank you!

royal wave Nov 4, 2016, 8:04 PM

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you the man!

torpid jetty Nov 4, 2016, 8:11 PM

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No problem. Our QA team is going to be reviewing it shortly.

royal wave Nov 4, 2016, 8:12 PM

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hey @dawn saffron have you tried it under different renderers? just curious

unreal oyster Nov 4, 2016, 8:12 PM

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that, uh, that was the entire point

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it only works in OpenGL

royal wave Nov 4, 2016, 8:13 PM

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That's what I was asking

dawn saffron Nov 4, 2016, 8:13 PM

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and doesn't work in vulkan

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works in opengl

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doesn't in vulkan

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if it shows opengl in the upper right corner, it loads

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if it shows vulkan there, it doesn't

unreal oyster Nov 4, 2016, 8:13 PM

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has that been tested by multiple people?

dawn saffron Nov 4, 2016, 8:13 PM

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yes

royal wave Nov 4, 2016, 8:14 PM

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alright. Just my expiriences it's usually something on the players end

unreal oyster Nov 4, 2016, 8:14 PM

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k

dawn saffron Nov 4, 2016, 8:14 PM

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3 people

royal wave Nov 4, 2016, 8:14 PM

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Have you tried turning it off and back on? /s

dawn saffron Nov 4, 2016, 10:13 PM

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anyone here looking for games?

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snapmap?

hazy lantern Nov 4, 2016, 10:59 PM

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I just looked at a SnapMap

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And it blew my head off

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id Software just published new campaign-style reference SnapMaps

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They have spawn logic in it I don't really get.

royal wave Nov 4, 2016, 11:02 PM

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what if the game started normal

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but then they had the idea of snap map

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and the whole game is a heavily modded snapmap

dawn saffron Nov 6, 2016, 4:54 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/snapmap/comments/5bgna5/heavy_thoughts_heavy_dreams_and_heavy_sorrows_are/?st=iv6vpgkb&sh=336208a1

Heavy Thoughts, Heavy Dreams and Heavy Sorrows are ready to pres...

1 points and 1 comments so far on reddit

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 7:21 PM

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hi

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 7:25 PM

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hello

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 7:39 PM

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https://streamable.com/obdo

Streamable

2016-11-14_20-38-40.mp4

Check out this video on Streamable using your phone, tablet or desktop.

▶ Play video

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i did this

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unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 7:54 PM

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WHYYYY

dawn saffron Nov 14, 2016, 7:55 PM

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that's what imagine the interation with a toddler sounds like

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brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 7:56 PM

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lol

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it's also a shitty way to do html

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if you need to do multiple line breaks, just fucking use CSS

dawn saffron Nov 14, 2016, 7:56 PM

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i imagine lol

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 7:56 PM

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achieve the same thing in like 3 lines of css

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 7:56 PM

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no

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 7:56 PM

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one if you compressed it

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 7:56 PM

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i like spamming

royal wave Nov 14, 2016, 7:56 PM

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Implying they could of had that option

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 7:56 PM

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i mean

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i'm using bootstrap with pieces of code from w3schools

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do you expect

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my website to be good

royal wave Nov 14, 2016, 7:57 PM

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If there's a better way and they didn't use that way, most likely they didn't know how or didn't know they could

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 7:57 PM

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also here's my doom shite

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http://pegasky.com/purpz/my-cancerous-doom-stuff/

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too lazy to find other stuff

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i have a mod with an invisible shotgun and a fingergun

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but im too lazy to put that

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 7:57 PM

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<div style="line-height:500%"></div> adds in 5 lines

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super easy

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 7:57 PM

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BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 7:58 PM

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and doesn't require   spamming

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 7:58 PM

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BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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ok there

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i've replaced my brazilians

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into divisions

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do i gotta put a or some shit

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inside

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 7:59 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/QSPq9lc.jpg mate holy shit set a max size on yer images

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it's going off my screen

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 7:59 PM

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no

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too lazy to do width and stuff

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what was the resoution uh

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640x320?

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:00 PM

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1366x768

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really common laptop res

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:00 PM

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meh

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tme to make ant images

royal wave Nov 14, 2016, 8:00 PM

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1600x900 is more common than that

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:01 PM

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it's again literally a line or 2 of css to set max width

royal wave Nov 14, 2016, 8:01 PM

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Are you on an intel atom or something?

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:01 PM

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look

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GUTAWER

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last time i used a CSS i got traumatized

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:01 PM

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eh, i like css 😛

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:01 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/242927373102743552/247484517428887552/unknown.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/242927373102743552/247484627998998528/unknown.png

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:02 PM

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it's got ridiculous amounts of flaws, but that's because it's built on html

steel onyx Nov 14, 2016, 8:02 PM

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I kinda wanna make maps

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:02 PM

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an inherently flawed system

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:02 PM

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gutawer look at the image

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i did that

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okay

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:02 PM

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if we could get rid of html and replace it i'd be happy

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:02 PM

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i got into some subwedit and changed the css

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:02 PM

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a e s t h e t i c

steel onyx Nov 14, 2016, 8:02 PM

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I've tried making a map before. It didn't turn out great.

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:02 PM

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also this is a tiling doomguy

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with a weird palette

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yes

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@unreal oyster are you rpoduf of me

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wait

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thats not how it works

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img-width?

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image-width?

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how was it

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help

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:04 PM

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@royal wave http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_display.asp

Well organized and easy to understand Web building tutorials with lots of examples of how to use HTML, CSS, JavaScript, SQL, PHP, and XML.

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:04 PM

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ew w3schools

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wait why ew im fucking using w3schools

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:04 PM

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i don't know how you say "1600x900 is more common than that" when 1366x768 is the most popular res currently

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for PCs

royal wave Nov 14, 2016, 8:04 PM

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Why would you settle for a weird fucking size man

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:05 PM

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gutawer

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why isnt my css working

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hep

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i m dying

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:05 PM

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i'm not sure lol

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:05 PM

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oh

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i gotta put px

royal wave Nov 14, 2016, 8:05 PM

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1600x900 at least works with the 16:9 ratio

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:05 PM

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tbh absolute width isn't good anyway

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:06 PM

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mmmm

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give it alittle STREETRCH

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:06 PM

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max-width and max-height are far more flexible

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:06 PM

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i was about to make non-game screenshots a diff. class

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:06 PM

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like max-width:50vw;max-height:auto

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:06 PM

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http://pegasky.com/purpz/my-cancerous-doom-stuff/

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how's this looking

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:06 PM

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which will make images always 1/2 of the browser width & scale height automatically

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much nicer 😃

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:07 PM

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i used img { max-width: 640px; max-height: 320px; }

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:07 PM

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yeah, i guess that works

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:07 PM

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also

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:07 PM

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i generally set max-height to auto so i don't have to fuck around with it

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:08 PM

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i once made a doom map the size of the whole grid

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this big

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and 8192 ceiling height

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:08 PM

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i mean all it does is completely fucks the game logic

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:08 PM

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nope

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it actually worked

royal wave Nov 14, 2016, 8:08 PM

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What did that accomplish

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:08 PM

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big as fuck floor

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the ceilign worked

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but you could go through walls (they were on the edge of the map)

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:09 PM

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at the very edge, the AI will fuck itself up because the numbers are too large to do precise calculation

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:09 PM

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f l o a t s

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and when you go over the max XYZ limit it just turns to -32(whatever limit there is)

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and then starts counting down

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so it basically teleports you to the other edge

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even doom logic is better than hl2 logic

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in hl2 you can fly to where u want

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VBrGKJwXC4

YouTube

lambdawg

The Half-Life 2 Farlands (EPILEPSY WARNING)

▶ Play video

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and so this happens

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video uploaded by yours truly

royal wave Nov 14, 2016, 8:10 PM

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What happens

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:10 PM

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uh. doom engines don't use floats for physics, mate

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:10 PM

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oh ok

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:10 PM

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they use fixed point numbers

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:10 PM

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oh

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t h a t e x p l a i n s

royal wave Nov 14, 2016, 8:11 PM

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Floats can muck up any physics engine if you don't do it right

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:11 PM

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it's a really old concept that cannot be gotten rid off because it would break so many wads

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:11 PM

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dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot

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unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:11 PM

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probably including doom.wad

royal wave Nov 14, 2016, 8:11 PM

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Line rider gets really funky when you approach the float limit

steel onyx Nov 14, 2016, 8:12 PM

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Nobody says a thing about me

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😥

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:12 PM

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huh?

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i didn't see you say anything lol

steel onyx Nov 14, 2016, 8:12 PM

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I've tried making maps before, they don't turn out well

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That's what I said

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:12 PM

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time to test AI

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unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:12 PM

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oh, okay

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what do you mean "they don't turn out well"?

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:13 PM

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circle is a 32x32 block on a corner, to make sure the game doesn't center the map

steel onyx Nov 14, 2016, 8:13 PM

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Uh

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:13 PM

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and arrow is the box where i'll spawn

steel onyx Nov 14, 2016, 8:13 PM

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Maps I make are not good

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:13 PM

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oh, ok

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:13 PM

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hey

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you lied

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Ai is normal

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xd

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:14 PM

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hm, maybe i'm thinking of floats actually. in fact i probably am

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woops

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floats lose precision at their limits, fixed points don't

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floats are still better for most things but fixed point doesn't have that accuracy issue

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:15 PM

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yeah it is floats

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floats keep losing their precision the farther it goes

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ex. player position, it clips in far spaces

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hdFG2GcNuA

YouTube

UncommentatedPannen

Floats

▶ Play video

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this video explains

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player and enemy shit that happens

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with floats

unreal oyster Nov 14, 2016, 8:16 PM

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long double is pretty much too big for any of that to matter though

haughty flower Nov 14, 2016, 8:16 PM

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look at vid tho

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my website is good

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owo whats this

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haughty flower Nov 15, 2016, 7:18 PM

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http://pegasky.com/purpz/doomdump.php

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wasn't there a

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version of the doom weapons

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but zoomed out

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from farther away

haughty flower Nov 16, 2016, 3:12 PM

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pantacas

royal wave Nov 16, 2016, 3:13 PM

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Thoughts on that video @frank basin ?

frank basin Nov 16, 2016, 3:14 PM

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Sorry I'm on my phone

royal wave Nov 16, 2016, 3:14 PM

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Oh okay

frank basin Nov 16, 2016, 3:14 PM

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Low battery

royal wave Nov 16, 2016, 3:14 PM

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Kk

frank basin Nov 16, 2016, 4:21 PM

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@royal wave That is way to scary *_*

royal wave Nov 16, 2016, 4:22 PM

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:3

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perfect

haughty flower Nov 16, 2016, 5:25 PM

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ayy

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anyone there

frank basin Nov 16, 2016, 5:26 PM

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no

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no one

formal breach Nov 16, 2016, 9:49 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/7bUiqIH.jpg

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Here are the stalls

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They're bigger than you think

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http://i.imgur.com/KQvlRgR.jpg

prisma saddle Nov 16, 2016, 9:50 PM

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Are you av mouse in this map?

formal breach Nov 16, 2016, 9:50 PM

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Kinda I guess

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If that's a metaphor

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http://i.imgur.com/yDJYDHh.png

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Here's an example on how big the stalls are

prisma saddle Nov 16, 2016, 9:51 PM

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Is there a reason for this large scale or...

formal breach Nov 16, 2016, 9:52 PM

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It's basically supposed to be a big map

prisma saddle Nov 16, 2016, 9:54 PM

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Okay.

formal breach Nov 16, 2016, 9:55 PM

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The whole idea of it is you're shrunk down and you wanna escape Taco Bell

prisma saddle Nov 16, 2016, 9:55 PM

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Oh.

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That's a unique idea.

formal breach Nov 16, 2016, 10:56 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/NROrH9P.png

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Added some "rooms" in the backs of the toilets

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Or like the water holding thing

royal wave Nov 16, 2016, 11:01 PM

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It's called a tank

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make it one that can be swam in

formal breach Nov 16, 2016, 11:02 PM

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I might, but that'd be hard probably

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Two 3D floors on top of each other?

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Wait

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I did that before actually

unreal oyster Nov 16, 2016, 11:04 PM

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That's easy

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Just use multiple sector tags and it becomes even easier

torn timber Nov 16, 2016, 11:26 PM

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20151013_043201.png

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very easy to stack 3D floors

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📎 Screenshot_Doom_20151013_043130.png

open edge Nov 16, 2016, 11:50 PM

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Working on a self made doom launcher. I'm uploading my latest work on github atm. But here's a screen grab of what it looks like. Let me know if you want to help contribute 😃

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http://puu.sh/skGXF/dd01a37ad7.jpg

prisma saddle Nov 16, 2016, 11:51 PM

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I wish the game actually had that built-in.

open edge Nov 16, 2016, 11:51 PM

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yeah, it does lack it which is why I deceded to make one lol

open edge Nov 17, 2016, 12:09 AM

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https://github.com/JustTrev/DOOM-2016-Launcher

GitHub

JustTrev/DOOM-2016-Launcher

DOOM-2016-Launcher - Fan made launcher for DOOM. With Controller support.

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I also didn't know where to share this so I decided why not here lol

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 12:47 AM

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NICE!

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That will be something I would have used instead of making extra shortcuts with command line switches.

open edge Nov 17, 2016, 1:34 AM

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lol, glad it can be of service!

formal breach Nov 17, 2016, 1:45 AM

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http://i.imgur.com/yRe22oO.png

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I figured out about patch scaling

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I knew about flat scaling

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But not about patch scaling yet

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 1:49 AM

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Patch scaling?

formal breach Nov 17, 2016, 1:51 AM

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Go to the texture editing options in GZDB

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http://i.imgur.com/TbRzgtY.png

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Or this

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And there should be a texture scaling thing

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 1:53 AM

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Oh that

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I was gonna tell you to do that, but I assumed you knew it already

trim falcon Nov 17, 2016, 1:59 AM

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oh nice

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I nver knew this exist

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last time I use my imagination

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 4:43 PM

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i'm not proud of myself

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but then i di dthis

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📎 unknown.png

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 5:50 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

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@unreal oyster ACTOR ScriptedNigger native replaces ScriptedMarine

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would this be good

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 6:07 PM

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why are you fucking pinging me

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 6:07 PM

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because i ask

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is that correct

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would that be good

hazy lantern Nov 17, 2016, 6:10 PM

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@haughty flower Hey there. What's up?

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 6:10 PM

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ayy

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gas prices

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 6:10 PM

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well, apart from the garbage actor name, i don't see what the problem would be

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not sure why you'd need the native keyword though

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 6:11 PM

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grabbed it off https://zdoom.org/wiki/Classes:ScriptedMarine

Classes:ScriptedMarine

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Expected '{' but got 'replaces' instead.

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oh no

hazy lantern Nov 17, 2016, 6:12 PM

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Hey @haughty flower if someone asks you to not ping him/her please remember that next time.

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 6:12 PM

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Invalid state parameter a_marinelook

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ok

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OH NO

hazy lantern Nov 17, 2016, 6:13 PM

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Thanks.

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 6:14 PM

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Script error, "cuntassy.pk3:DECORATE" line 31:
action functions can only be imported by internal class and actor definitions!

hazy lantern Nov 17, 2016, 6:14 PM

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Are you sure that's the correct filename?...

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 6:15 PM

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you wanna try reading the error first?

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it pretty clearly says that you can't use action functions unless your actor is an internal class

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this is why we have inheritance, and don't try to reinvent the wheel

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 6:16 PM

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📎 staticsoul.gif

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concept enemy I'm trying to use

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theme of it is data corrupted enemies

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 6:16 PM

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WTF

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my enemies are digged down into the floor now

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sprites

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 6:17 PM

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change the offsets then

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 6:17 PM

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how did i do it

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offset (0,60)?

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 6:17 PM

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no, change the sprite offsets

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 6:17 PM

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ah ye

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is there a way to mass-change offsets

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nvm found

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wow this is hot

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i need some pain sounds

formal breach Nov 17, 2016, 6:34 PM

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record yourself taking a shit and use that

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No one will be able to tell :))

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 6:35 PM

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no

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go back to your toilet simulator

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 6:36 PM

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I like that idea

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 6:36 PM

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i want it to get released so i can play it

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and then steal assets

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 6:36 PM

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eat like a lot of dry foods

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 6:36 PM

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ass ets

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kill me

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at this moment sprite knew

📎 unknown.png

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he's a fucking faggot

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and he has no arms

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so he died

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hazy lantern Nov 17, 2016, 6:37 PM

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@haughty flower Can you please shitpost in #172869448863055872 ?

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 6:37 PM

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im showing off my sprites

hazy lantern Nov 17, 2016, 6:37 PM

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That's okay

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 6:37 PM

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with extra text

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not really shitpost

hazy lantern Nov 17, 2016, 6:38 PM

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Then => ~~faggot~~

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Okay?

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 6:38 PM

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What he's saying is use less cussing

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 6:38 PM

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ok

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he's a cigarrete

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a

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bunch of sticks

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a

hazy lantern Nov 17, 2016, 6:38 PM

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Good

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 6:38 PM

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homosexual male

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ok good

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found his arm

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this was supposed to be his punch animation

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but it no vork

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so whatever

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 6:40 PM

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switch hands

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draw him punching with the hand that's farther away so it stands out better

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 6:45 PM

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@royal wave its unused sprite

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he doesn't have a sprite for punching

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in the wad itself

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 6:45 PM

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make one then

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 6:45 PM

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nah

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too lazy

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 6:45 PM

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not hard to open it up in paint

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 6:45 PM

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already did too much sprite work

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ima do pistol and maybe a map

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 6:46 PM

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shrug whatever

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 7:16 PM

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haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 7:45 PM

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📎 PISGE0.png

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hey @steel onyx are you proud of me

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https://streamable.com/k0a7

Streamable

2016-11-17_20-52-13.mp4

Check out this video on Streamable using your phone, tablet or desktop.

▶ Play video

steel onyx Nov 17, 2016, 7:52 PM

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Stop @ ing me

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 7:52 PM

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ok

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sgt are you proud of me

formal breach Nov 17, 2016, 7:53 PM

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I should ask Railgunner or Jimmy to do some HUD graphics for nerf guns

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Railgunner might be able to do it

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 7:53 PM

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hud graphics?

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as in

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what i did

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right

formal breach Nov 17, 2016, 7:53 PM

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Yeah

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 7:53 PM

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i just painted over my real life nerfgun

formal breach Nov 17, 2016, 7:53 PM

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Like in Doom's style

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 7:53 PM

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with a doom palette

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@formal breach and then i just animated the hand and shit

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📎 unknown.png

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 7:55 PM

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Hey man you should really chill with the pinging people. That's the second person to tell you to stop

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 7:55 PM

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since when are you a mod

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wtf

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you had a blue rank

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idk which

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:07 PM

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blue was mod until a few minutes ago

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also @haughty flower you really need to get a better camera if you are going to do any weapon scanning work

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:09 PM

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i used a PS2 eyetoy because i'm poor

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he's feeling death

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royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:10 PM

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Pretty sure that's not your photo

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:10 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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wut

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?

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:11 PM

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Pretty sure that's not your nerf gun

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http://halo.bungie.net/images/News/Inline12/mailsack/02102012/urkiverse.JPG

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:11 PM

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that isn't the image

formal breach Nov 17, 2016, 8:11 PM

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ohfuck

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:11 PM

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Hey @unreal oyster

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check it out

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:11 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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nothing like the image yu showed

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and my gun ain't yellow

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:11 PM

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nah, clearly not even close to the same image

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:11 PM

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and i'm holding it with both hands, not 1

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:12 PM

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i can tell from the shitty MS-paint draw-over that it's a newer gen nerf

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:12 PM

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it's a strongarm

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:12 PM

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I tried

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:12 PM

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📎 IMG_20161117_201057430.jpg

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:12 PM

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also i used photoshop pencil tool

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:12 PM

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Like that

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:12 PM

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what

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it's strongarm

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i've also got a nerf gun from the 90s

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:12 PM

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no i know, just showing that color scheme

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:12 PM

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that one where the bottom loader pumps air

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and there is a circle on the barrel with like 6 holes

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:13 PM

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showing that color scheme with non-potato quality, lol

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still a grainy-ass photo though

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:13 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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the ones i used for sprite

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i have no idea of how i exported the palette cause i made this sprite around starts of 2016

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:13 PM

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wait, you used the photoshop pencil tool for that?

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err, wow

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:13 PM

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ye

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:14 PM

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if that was ms-paint i could excuse the quality but c'mon

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:14 PM

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dont judg

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m9

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ill load my nerf

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unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:14 PM

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that art style clash 😂

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:14 PM

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?

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wut

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:15 PM

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an artstyle clash is when you have two very different artstyles in the same place

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:15 PM

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but they no different

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:c

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100% the same

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ok don't judge me i can't fuckin gdraw

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sh

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:15 PM

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I should make a pixelfier engine

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I could totally do it too

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:16 PM

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a "pixelfier engine"?

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:16 PM

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owo what this

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dicksel

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royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:16 PM

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Yeah. you stick in an image and it will average out the pixels in a radisu, except much sharper

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:16 PM

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that's called photoshop sharpen effect

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:17 PM

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That's not what I mean by sharper

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:17 PM

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how about

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you first palette-convert it

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to doom palette

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and then sharpen the pixels

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OH MY GOD

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:17 PM

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Or you just not worry about making it a pallete image

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:17 PM

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you guys know MMHS

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the hand sheet

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:18 PM

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ZDoom does allow you to use textures and sprites not bound to a pallete

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:18 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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what is this

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deformed

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shit

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:18 PM

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Grenade hand

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:18 PM

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oh god

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:18 PM

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you're supposed to detach the fingers and move accordingly to the size of the object

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:18 PM

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this hand makes me want to do a jetpack mod

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royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:18 PM

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make it then

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:18 PM

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why

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i don't believe it'll be cool

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it'll be

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EXPOSINO XD

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XPOISNON

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EXPLOSINION

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:19 PM

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there's a command that pushes actors

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without hurting them

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:19 PM

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🤔 💭

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:19 PM

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@haughty flower you can pixelize using the photoshop pixel tool but it won't produce an actually usable sprite

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:20 PM

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it'll be a blurry mess

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:20 PM

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i used paint.net

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:20 PM

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mostly because it uses a trilinear algorithm instead of a square radius average method

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using a sqyare radius average will produce a non-blurry image

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:24 PM

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unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:25 PM

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ok, now compare that sprite to the detonator sprite from A Boy and His Barrel http://i.imgur.com/kgkQsPU.png

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see what i mean with artstyle clash

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:26 PM

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no

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:26 PM

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the one i posted fits far better with doomguy's hand

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:26 PM

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my art is bootiful

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:26 PM

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your one has no shading, and is generally quite boring

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:26 PM

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you're boring

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:26 PM

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i know you are but what am i

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i can do the 5 year old insulting too mate

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:26 PM

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this shape isn't

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uh

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normal

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:26 PM

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no, that's just retarded

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:26 PM

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I JUST NOTICED

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IT LOOKS LIKE A FUCKING DICK

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ERASE

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ERASE

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royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:27 PM

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still phallic

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:30 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/NBPGa6k.png

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:30 PM

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adding some shading

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unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:30 PM

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THE BEST GUN SPRITE EVER MADE BABEE

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pillowblaster's weapons aint got shit on this

formal breach Nov 17, 2016, 8:33 PM

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ikr

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:33 PM

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tbh the easiest way to create a "doom" like looking sprite is really to not use a pixellation filter, but just compress the image entirely

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http://i.imgur.com/GQhjCWW.png

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:34 PM

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unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:34 PM

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like that

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pretty goddamn easy

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would obviously need tons of touchup though

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because that gun i posted would be shit looking in most situations

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:36 PM

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gutawer am i improving

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@unreal oyster

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is this better

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:37 PM

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looks pretty flat and also STOP PINGING ME PLEASE

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:37 PM

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pong

prisma saddle Nov 17, 2016, 8:37 PM

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I'd recommend adding some dither.

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:37 PM

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what dat

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what's dither

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:37 PM

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Hey in case you haven't noticed

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Gut's a mod too

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:37 PM

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yes ik

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:37 PM

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I'd listen to him

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:37 PM

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what's dither, ZeHatsu?

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PS sorry for being spanish

prisma saddle Nov 17, 2016, 8:38 PM

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It's a pattern that is used to prevent colour banding.

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:38 PM

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🤔

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no fuckin idea

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google is my friend

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but firefox isn't

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so it just crashed

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oh using those

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:39 PM

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Chrome4life

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:39 PM

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dot dot dot patterns

hazy lantern Nov 17, 2016, 8:39 PM

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!google Miloteza

elder ridgeBOT Nov 17, 2016, 8:39 PM

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:fire: I didn't get any results.

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:40 PM

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!google google

elder ridgeBOT Nov 17, 2016, 8:40 PM

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:fire: I didn't get any results.

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:40 PM

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Your search bot is broken

hazy lantern Nov 17, 2016, 8:40 PM

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@royal wave If that happens, the API Limit has been reached 😦

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:40 PM

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Api limit?

hazy lantern Nov 17, 2016, 8:40 PM

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Jep

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There is a daily limit the Bot can query Google.

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:40 PM

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unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:40 PM

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yeah, you can only use the google API so much

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:40 PM

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.>

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:41 PM

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for fairly obvious reasons

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:41 PM

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That's dumb though

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:41 PM

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it's to prevent some cunt pinging the api at 1 million times a second

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:41 PM

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But that doesn't stop them

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Because that cunt can still ping it

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And then the limit is hit

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Then no one can use it

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:42 PM

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oh, it's a limit per key i think

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not an overall limit

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and since API access costs money, you can't just get multiple keys easily

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and get around it

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:43 PM

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that dithering is hot

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:43 PM

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Still phallic, but much better

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:44 PM

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that's

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prisma saddle Nov 17, 2016, 8:44 PM

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Dither improves everything.

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:44 PM

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way better

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also

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with hand

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unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:45 PM

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it doesn't really look phallic to me, more like a banana

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:45 PM

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Bananas are phallic too

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:45 PM

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not if they are curved enough lol

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:45 PM

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Kek

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Ever had a banana show?

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You get a guy to eat a banana really slow and maintain constant eye contact

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First person to laugh loses

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:46 PM

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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=banana show

Urban Dictionary

banana show

A signature trademark in the Japanese territory of Okinawa. A very disgusting and decrepit old lady inserts several freshly peeled bananas into her...

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urban dictionary seems to think otherwise

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:46 PM

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Pff

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:47 PM

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8|

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:47 PM

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I like mine better

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:48 PM

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ez effect

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way better

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@prisma saddle right?

unreal oyster Nov 17, 2016, 8:51 PM

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still looks pretty flat, but it is better yea

prisma saddle Nov 17, 2016, 8:52 PM

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Yeah, it's a tad better.

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I'd recommend laying the darker tones down first.

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:55 PM

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re a l ist icc

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shove it up that hand

royal wave Nov 17, 2016, 8:58 PM

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FIRMLY GRASP IT

haughty flower Nov 17, 2016, 8:58 PM

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goode

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A+

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:21 PM

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hello, billy ma- miloteza here okay

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i'm gonna

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show my mod stuff

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ok wait a second

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technical problems

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okay so

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JETP B 0 ThrustThing (what's the angle for UP, 500, bNoLimit);

hazy lantern Nov 18, 2016, 2:30 PM

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@royal wave he had technical promlems 😄

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:30 PM

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would that be correct kevan

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:30 PM

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hang on

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:30 PM

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ok

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:31 PM

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/ThrustThingZ

ThrustThingZ

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There you go

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forgot the normal one doesn't do upward movement

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also that's an ACS code, it's not gonna run in decorate

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:32 PM

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as i said

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no idea of how to ACS

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:32 PM

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I'm getting that for you

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:32 PM

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also

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when ACS says "compiled" does it mean it's converted into unreadable stuff

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or is it possible to see

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:33 PM

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you can still see it

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are you editing in slade?

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:33 PM

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yep

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slade is hot like a blade

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:33 PM

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okay

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make a new text entry

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name it something related to the jetpack code

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:34 PM

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jetpeek

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:34 PM

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sure

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in the code place this:

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:34 PM

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wait

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it makes a marker

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not text

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where's New TEXT Entry

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:34 PM

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click "view as text

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:35 PM

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ok

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:35 PM

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now in the code place this:

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 2:35 PM

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ACS still works in DECORATE

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:35 PM

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just hang on

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:35 PM

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ThrustThingZ (0, 6, 0, 0)

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?

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:36 PM

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{
   ThrustThingZ (0, force, up/down, 1);
}```

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:36 PM

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ok ill edit this

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what force should I do

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7

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:36 PM

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whatever you want

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:36 PM

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ok

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 2:36 PM

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When you compile a script, your script file remains the same and a new compiled file will be generated

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:36 PM

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script "Jetpack ON" (void)
{
ThrustThingZ (0, 8, 0, 1);
}

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:37 PM

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good

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:37 PM

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but

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:37 PM

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now save the .pk3

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:37 PM

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compiled files are readable¿

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:37 PM

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yes it will stay readable

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:37 PM

#

ij

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ok

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 2:37 PM

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You can put ThrustThingZ on a line in DECORATE just fine if needed

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:37 PM

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now make a new text entry, but name it "LOADACS"

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that actually works?

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:37 PM

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ther

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:37 PM

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shrug

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:37 PM

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oh you can

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well i'll do this ACS stuff

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to learn

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:38 PM

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fair enough

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:38 PM

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what do i put in LOADACS

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 2:38 PM

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yes, I do it all the time

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the only thing that ever goes in LOADACS is the names of your compiled script files

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:38 PM

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so

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JETPEEK

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and dats all

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?

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:39 PM

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brb

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ask someone here, they can help

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:39 PM

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WHATS THIS

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what is an acc

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 2:39 PM

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you need your compiler file

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:39 PM

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wheres dat

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 2:40 PM

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/ACC

ACC

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download there

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right at the top

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you then need to go to your SLADE settings and put in the file path for ACC

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:41 PM

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wee

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Line 3 in file "C:\Program Files (x86)\SLADE\temp\JETPEEK.acs" ...
C:\Program Files (x86)\SLADE\temp\JETPEEK.acs:3: Function thrustthingz is used but not defined.

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woo

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:41 PM

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just go with setting it in decorate if it's giving you trouble

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:41 PM

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ok

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 2:42 PM

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Example of ACS in DECORATE from one of my mods:

        TNT1 A 0 A_ChangeFlag("NoPain",1)
        GO99 A 2 A_FaceTarget
        GO99 A 10 A_FaceTarget
        GO99 B 1 ThrustThingZ(0,28,0,0)
        TNT1 A 0 ThrustThing(angle*256/360,20,0,0)
        Goto MidLeap```

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:42 PM

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is dis good

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royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:42 PM

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but I do recommend learning ACS as it can be more expressive and flexible

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:42 PM

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will do

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also

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what is Goto Ready

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does it just

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:42 PM

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so ZDoom reads line sone by one, right?

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 2:42 PM

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it goes to the "Ready" state

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:43 PM

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yeah but like

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what does Ready do

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it just says WeaponReady

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:43 PM

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Oh ready?

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:43 PM

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what does it exactly do

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:43 PM

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that's when the weapon is raised and idle

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:43 PM

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o

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JETP A 3 A_Raise
Loop

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why is there a loop here

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does it stop looping when it gets 100% raised

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:43 PM

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yup

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:43 PM

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?

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o

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 2:43 PM

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wait, this was for a monster right?

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:44 PM

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moves onto the next state

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:44 PM

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no this is for wepon

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:44 PM

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if there wasn't something to tell it to stop, it'd keep going

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:44 PM

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mmmmmmm

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ok im gonna do the anims for the throw-up-and-catch thing

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 2:46 PM

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The Select state can even be 0 tics long, this would simple have the weapon appear instantly on your screen when you switch to it. The duration of frames during the Select state simply determines how long it takes to rise up from the bottom of your screen.

    TNT1 A 0 A_Raise
    Loop```

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Keep in mind though, in most cases, having a 0 tic loop may cause an error to occur, as a loop can only cycle 16 times within one tic before it is considered infinitely looping by the game and stopped.

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:48 PM

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i want to do a throw-up-and-catch for raise

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JETP A 1
JETT ABCDA 5
JETP A 1

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 2:49 PM

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Having the weapon raised instantly has some benefits, such as if you want an animation to be fully visible on the screen and not just already playing while rising up from the bottom of the screen.

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:49 PM

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but like

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how do i put this into RAISE

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JETP A 1
JETT ABCDA 5
JETP A 1

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just after A_Raise?

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or after Loop

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Script error, "cuntassy.pk3:DECORATE" line 227:
Sprite names must be exactly 4 characters

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here's line 227

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JETP B 3 ThrustThingZ(0, 8, 0, 1);

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@torn timber what is happening

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:53 PM

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remove the semicolon at the end

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:53 PM

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did

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hold on

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lemme try

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ok thank

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@torn timber @royal wave
but like
how do i put this into RAISE

JETT ABCDA 5
JETP A 1```
just after A_Raise?
or after Loop

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 2:57 PM

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You can try something like this to see if it shows up properly for you?

    JETP A 1 A_Raise
    JETT ABCDA 5 A_Raise
    JETP A 1 A_Raise
    Wait```

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I'm not sure what your animation looks like, so I don't know if that's the best solution for you

royal wave Nov 18, 2016, 2:59 PM

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you typically want to only use one line for raising your gun

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:59 PM

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he throws it up

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and then grabs it in the middle of the air

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i want him to raise up with JETP A

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 2:59 PM

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an alternative is to put something like

    TNT1 AAAAAAAAA 0 A_Raise
    "visible sprite here"
    Loop```
as the Select state

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 2:59 PM

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and then throw it up

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 2:59 PM

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err wait

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there, it depends on how you want your animation behaving

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:03 PM

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ok

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how do i make like

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how do i make the player spawn with different items

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rather than a pistol

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do i have to define a new player in DECORATE

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@torn timber

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:04 PM

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/Actor_properties#Player.StartItem

Actor properties

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it would go on a new player pawn actor

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/Classes:DoomPlayer

Classes:DoomPlayer

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:04 PM

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yeah i dont want the player to have pistol

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so i'll just do

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replaces?

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:05 PM

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https://zdoom.org/wiki/Actor_properties#Player.WeaponSlot

Actor properties

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Discord, stop eating my messages?

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:05 PM

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ACTOR DoomPlayertest : PlayerPawn replaces DoomPlayer

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woudlnt thate

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:05 PM

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hope it doesnt' look like I'm double posting

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no

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:05 PM

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3bad

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:05 PM

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ACTOR DoomPlayerTest: DoomPlayer replaces DoomPlayer

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:05 PM

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ok

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and i just have to

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remove all the things i dont need

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and only have the lines and functions i have to edit

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:06 PM

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you just need to have what you're overriding there

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:06 PM

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ok

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:06 PM

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so Player.StartItem "Pistol" and Player.WeaponSlot 2, Pistol

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the rest should remain the same from inheritence

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:07 PM

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ACTOR PloomPlayer : DoomPlayer replaces DoomPlayer
{
Player.DisplayName "Searine"
Player.StartItem "PistolEdit"
Player.StartItem "Jetpack"
Player.StartItem "Fist"
Player.StartItem "Clip", 150
}

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would this be gud

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ima ad the weaponslot now

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i'ma add*

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:07 PM

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you also need the weapon slot, yeah

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:08 PM

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  Player.DisplayName "Searine"
  Player.StartItem "PistolEdit"
  Player.StartItem "Jetpack"
  Player.StartItem "Fist"
  Player.StartItem "Clip", 150
  
  
  Player.WeaponSlot 1, Fist, Chainsaw
  Player.WeaponSlot 2, PistolEdit, Jetpack
  Player.WeaponSlot 3, Shotgun, SuperShotgun
  Player.WeaponSlot 4, Chaingun
  Player.WeaponSlot 5, RocketLauncher
  Player.WeaponSlot 6, PlasmaRifle
  Player.WeaponSlot 7, BFG9000
}```

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testing time

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i still have normal pistol

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angery

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:09 PM

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does it actually load this new player pawn actor?

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:10 PM

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idk

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also can't i like

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just do

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replaces Pistol

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:10 PM

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if you look in player setup, you may be able to see the name of the player class there

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:10 PM

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on PistolEdit

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:10 PM

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actually, did you ever replaces pistol

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yeah

haughty flower Nov 18, 2016, 3:10 PM

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on PistolEdit i tried that, but it still spawned default pistol

torn timber Nov 18, 2016, 3:11 PM

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the displayname I thought should change the name of the "Class" there

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did you put that code into the DECORATE lump or it's own separate one?