HaxeNXCompiler: Create homebrew with Haxe for the Nintendo Switch!

[blissful otter]

me cagaste

[analog oasis]

Estoy hablando de VS Camellia v2.75 xD

[blissful otter]

me cagaste de verdad 😭

[analog oasis]

Uh, era la segunda, ok xD

Uh.. Pero el juego me va a cargar la sección de BF creo xD

Y no tengo soporte para las vocales (solo un archivo de música a la vez)... Tendré que unir ambos archivos hasta que agregue algún soporte para estas cosas de fnf

Uh.. Dejaré decidir a Moonchart qué formato de chart es ese xD

No tengo idea

Psych tal vez?

[analog oasis]

Ok, wtf

A lo mejor alguna nota.. No, no tengo idea que mierda paso allí xD

[blissful otter]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

talvez se combinaron las notas de camellia

no c

[analog oasis]

Pa mi que creo que se salio del número del lane esperado y el juego no le va bien eso xD

[blissful otter]

tmb

[analog oasis]

Uhhh...

[lavish roost]

718%

wue verga

te inventó código

[analog oasis]

Me inventó el Mario Kart 9 xD

[analog oasis]

Apuesto que si lo dejaba más rato me iba a, o llenar la SD o la RAM si realmente estaba escribiendo datos xD

[blissful otter]

momento homebew

👀

[analog oasis]

OffBeat was originally a Wii U game called OffBeatU.
Here is the last recorded progress I made on the game before I couldn't continue due to instability and issues of Leafy Engine

You can also see how the same idea was different on the Wii U compared to what I've been showing on the Nintendo Switch
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1366529844791345192/1412972801614282913/2025-09-03_21-26-44.mp4?ex=68ba3cf7&is=68b8eb77&hm=f381e25f61f187718718fedc7475441404b51249f01e1b37df783a4425e931a9&

[blissful otter]

siempre las transiciones entre escenas son clean

[analog oasis]

Como asi?

[blissful otter]

no c, tu sabras

[analog oasis]

Si te estoy diciendo "como asi?" es porque no entendí que quisiste decir xD

El tema de transiciones aun no lo he implementado en el engine de la Switch porque me rompía todo, realmente solo estoy usando con el alpha de la cámara principal

Y en la Wii U.. Eso era mucho pedir para el engine ese xD, realmente seguir con la Wii U desafortunadamente no era muy viable

[blissful otter]

😔

[analog oasis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/947002154151985165/1436175464191492187/2025-11-06_22-04-39.mp4?ex=690ea621&is=690d54a1&hm=6c9907bed97190e60bfa452ffeefa5640eef383d66033f5601054ab66d973561&

[analog oasis]

...

EB_LeafeonConfused

[blissful otter]

sustains moment

[analog oasis]

Random thing:
This project wasn't supposed to exist, or at least not yet. Before I got the Switch, or before I modified it, my idea was not to touch the homebrew part, but well, it was inevitable, especially since I'd known for a long time that I could use hxcpp on the console https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1224557848059580466.gif?quality=lossless&name=Eevee_Chipi&size=96

[analog oasis]

Damn, this is difficult to implement, especially with the batching thing involved, which makes everything a bit more difficult in general xD...

[rough lichen]

haces batching manual???

[analog oasis]

Como así?

Ps que tenga entendido no como tal, creo los 4 batch, uno por lane y ya luego agrego cada nota a un batch según lane qué le corresponda
Ya luego en general actualizo su posición en Y y ya

[rough lichen]

ehh

no entiendo

[analog oasis]

Tons cual es tu pregunta? Pq yo tampoco la entendí y respondí lo que pude xD

[rough lichen]

pq no lo haces automaticos

tipo

tipo

draw items y con un stack de ellos

[analog oasis]

Mmm
Es que literalmente tengo un array con 4 batches, esos los añado al state qué se actualicen solos en update y render

Al momento de generar las notas, si la nota es del lane 4, irá al batch 4, si es del lane 1, ira sl batch 1

Luego de allí actualizo la posición de todas las notas de cada batch y ya

Así es la lógica que llevo

Hay un array de solo los batchs qué contienen las notas separadas por lane, y les paso los datos de la nota actual que esta en otro array qué es del chart como tal cargado, mayormente la posición y el valor del hue-shift

Si no es la mejor forma, pos bueno puedo ver que hacer pero eso me había solucionado el problema inicial de tener muchísimos objetos y llamadas de OpenGL

[rough lichen]

osea puedes hacer lo que hace flixel

que es que tiene un stack de draw calls

y reutilizar/fusionar los que tengan el mismo grafico y shader

[rough lichen]

osea, batching automatico

[analog oasis]

Bueh, podría, pero lo que tengo por los momentos sirve bien
Igualmente mi lío esta nomas con la holds, que no figuro como hacerle mayormente con el tema del.. Eh, que se corte mientras la mantienes en el receptor, es donde ando perdido, porque el resto bueno supongo que puedo estirar la el cuerpo de la hold en función a la longitud qué debe tener y eso y poner la punta al final de ello, así al menos ando pensando, lo único que no es la parte del corte xd

[analog oasis]

Nah, I give up on holds for now. There's no way I can implement them without breaking the entire gameplay.
I'm going to focus on other things I know I can do xD. It bugs me because without holds, I can't move forward with other things either

[analog oasis]

This time there's no OffBeat, no Switch, not even Haxe, just a fox.

[whole turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-cat-meme-among-us-gif-22540753

[blissful otter]

oh no hes crying

CatSob

[analog oasis]

Nah

[blissful otter]

nono

hes crying

.

[whole turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/nermal-garfield-garfield-meme-nermal-dead-john-gif-18241118886265094705

[analog oasis]

Finally.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1342888057103323169/1437616167966605453/VID_20251110_213214.mp4?ex=69148ca4&is=69133b24&hm=c710236f831985f71bbb216cfc12bba555bc66b8023d6e2a0a269c1d1ea4a8f8&

[analog oasis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1342888057103323169/1437815231677075486/desconocido.jpeg?ex=69149d48&is=69134bc8&hm=e48a27d70ce3dfc291d36b0a2e5011404ef5d81206312e6e487b5794c4814b5e&

[analog oasis]

Random fact:
There is a port of StepMania 5 for the Nintendo Switch:
https://github.com/retronx-team/stepmania-nx
But it no longer works (probably due to changes in the Switch firmware and homebrew?).

Although my game OffBeat is nowhere near what a StepMania build could offer, I think it would be a good alternative for playing SM charts (and others charts from other VSRG games) on the console since that port doesn't work

[blissful otter]

wha

[chilly patrol]

Will you add modcharts

[analog oasis]

I'd love to, but I have to research how these things work, especially the issue of altering the hold note, but first I have to get the hold note working properly.

[analog oasis]

The new version of HaxeNXCompiler will have significant changes and will finally no longer be based on HxCompileU..

[blissful otter]

peak

but why this

why source.Main instead of Main

🤔

[analog oasis]

I'm used to putting package source;, but if it were just package;, then it would be Main and that's it.

[blissful otter]

ohokok

[analog oasis]

A new version of the Switch system was released a few days ago, and there are already beta versions of Atmosphere, which is the custom system used for this.

However, Nintendo changed many things internally and... Also something related to memory management, I don't think I want to try this new version until all the homebrew I use is updated to those changes.
I'm also a little worried about how the hxcpp I use will handle these changes, since it's already a little broken and doesn't free up all the memory when exiting, and with these changes, I don't know if things will get worse or not.

So for now, I'll only test this project with version 20.4.0 of HorizonOS and Atmosphere 1.9.4 along with Haxe 4.3.6. I'm sure Haxe 5 should work, but I haven't tested it.

[blissful otter]

wha

[analog oasis]

Another reference to the Switch engine
(I haven't posted more about it because I'm figuring out how to optimize the renderer xd)

[lavish roost]

DID YA NEED HLEP

IM GOOD AT OPTIMIZING

-# and breaking a lot of things

[analog oasis]

I'll keep you in mind, but I've already found the level I like and that I've been able to reach (I'll see if that level is enough for my game or not xd)

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1088650687736451193.png?size=160

[whole turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-explosion-gif-9852730973294141771

[analog oasis]

I would like to be able to make a chart for this song as a test in the OffBeat game
But I don't know how to make charts, especially not in the style of Dave And Bambi
https://youtu.be/HKL7-adBPrw

But in general, I've always wanted to do something with A-Saph's songs (like a modchart) ever since I was with Slushi Engine heh

[analog oasis]

@blissful otter te conoces alguna lib de Haxe de GLM? solo encuentro algunas incompletas o viejas, idk queria hacer el cambio a GLM pero no me doy claro como hacer los bindings y honestamente tampoco le tengo ganas xd

[blissful otter]

hay ports

pero para el uso con opengl ya hecho

no

eso tienes que hacerlo a mano

https://github.com/hamaluik/haxe-glm

https://github.com/wighawag/kit/tree/master

[analog oasis]

Wa

Bueh ni modo, si lo hago, lo haré público xD
Tanto tiempo y no hay algo así público

Aun que, tantas libs que he estado haciendo y si bien son para la Switch, no deberían diferenciar en nada de sus, versiones normales
Así que tengo un buen port de SDL2, o de OpenGL 4.3 ES y así xd

Igualmente no las haré públicas hasta no sacar el engine

Da igual, gracias de todos modos xd

[analog oasis]

I don't have anything to post here so.. I'll leave a leafeon and that's it

[analog oasis]

Bad news
Unless I missed something, the latest hxcpp (commit 767fe94) doesn't even start on the Switch.

It's a good thing I didn't update the hxcpp fork of this project directly,
So, I'm not going to update hxcpp, and we'll stick with the version from two months ago

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1134923925076332544.png?quality=lossless&name=Neko_shrug&size=96

[blissful otter]

use reflaxecp-

[analog oasis]

For the DS, it's good

[blissful otter]

holy

[analog oasis]

But I won't do it for the Switch, unless I want to mess around with something like modules for Atmosphere and don't want the weight of hxcpp, but something more straightforward

[analog oasis]

Just a stupid test heh

[analog oasis]

I have finally finished everything necessary to release version 3.0.0 of HaxeNXCompiler. This new version took me a long time to complete, between the documentation and, above all, having to redo the entire tool.
https://github.com/Slushi-Github/HaxeNXCompiler

[analog oasis]

I want to hug this little fox
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179072500018192444/1445221410858336349/fox_foxy_foxsoftiktok_fyp_foryoupage_7579043987013586207.mp4?ex=692f8ed3&is=692e3d53&hm=5ed2a4d19bea64d7d6bb942b629f06ab7ed54f531837e51c23bd24ab7a86404d&

[analog oasis]

I hate how difficult it is to generate text in an optimized way

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1140813277195145267.png?size=160

[lavish roost]

😟

[blissful otter]

ask to roxy

[analog oasis]

Anything to avoid regenerating an entire texture just to change one character

[analog oasis]

Roxy?

[blissful otter]

fnf chat

[analog oasis]

Does he/she know how to generate text efficiently?

Right now I'm looking at something with stb_truetype, to see if it works well or if it blows up the engine, heh

[blissful otter]

yeah

ademas, podrias simplemente guardar tus caracteres en un spritesheet

y dibujar cada letra con batching

no creas una nueva textura, solo cambias la posicion de que letra quieres dibujar

[analog oasis]

Se, eso ando buscando xd

yay, errors :3

[blissful otter]

estas intentando usar ttf?

[analog oasis]

El formato de archivo dices?

[blissful otter]

cualquier archivo de fonts

[analog oasis]

Bueno, se
Pero el problema viene de otro lado xd

[blissful otter]

no creo que sea posible cambiar solo una letra intentando usar esos archivos

[analog oasis]

No entiendo muy bien la existencia de STB_TRUETYPE_IMPLEMENTATION y así

[blissful otter]

a menos que generes el spritesheet desde antes pero seria algo un tanto engorrozo y medio complejo de hacer

[analog oasis]

Nah, seguiré con lo que tengo
El error es que estaba definiendo mal ese STB_TRUETYPE_IMPLEMENTATION y me causa problemas con el linker

[rough lichen]

creo que para un engine conviene hacer un motor de texto

[blissful otter]

diomio

[blissful otter]

nokia aaaah font

[analog oasis]

Yeah xD

[analog oasis]

a

[blissful otter]

yo cuando vertices

[analog oasis]

Bueh pero felizmente ya hice el cambio a GLM en vez de hacer las rotaciones en el shader

Me costo una mierda usar la liberia, no por lógica de como se usa, si no por el puto hxcpp

[blissful otter]

estas usando operaciones solo en dos d? o usaste operaciones para tres d

[analog oasis]

No tengo ni puta idea a serte sincero

[blissful otter]

a

[rough lichen]

ese fov hermano

[rough lichen]

yo cuando matrix.rotate(angle * pi / 180)

o
x = x0 * cos - y0 * sin
y = x0 * sin + y0 *cos

[blissful otter]

para dos d es mas facil crear tus propias clases que hacer bindings de glm xd

[rough lichen]

si we

[analog oasis]

Afortunadamente en este proyecto no puedo poner algo como lo que puse de borrar System32 en Slushi Engine XDD

Fuera joda me gusta que haya conseguido otro proyecto con el que salir de ese engine de fnf, quedo con un mal ojo que no me estaba gustando pero que tampoco había mucho que hacerle ya

[analog oasis]

lime

[blissful otter]

queeslime

[analog oasis]

Lime

[blissful otter]

comprendo, es cal

[analog oasis]

Nah realmente fue un error cuándo estaba buscando algo y ni en cuenta xD
No ando haciendo nada con Lime para la Switch, y.. En general tampoco con el engine, ando cansado y hostinado del proyecto

[blissful otter]

no problema, el descanso es lo mas importante al final

[analog oasis]

It took me weeks, but I finally finished the text object with... Real 3D perspective.

[rough lichen]

shader or real 3d

👀

[analog oasis]

Real, In fact, the text is using a different mode of projection compared to the sprite.

It definitely helped me switch to GLM, even though the bindings are rubbish and I often resort to using C++ code directly

[blissful otter]

ortho vs perspective

peak

[analog oasis]

both sprites are 3D, but the text has the function for that overwritten because by default it doesn't work well with several separate sprites, the text gets... quite distorted.

I still need to improve the function that handles that.
But at least I'm no longer forced to use what the shader has

[analog oasis]

Ha, how stupid of me. Ever since I started working on the engine project, the audio engine always had a problem obtaining the audio duration. The version of SDL_Mixer I use doesn't have this function natively, so I used a separate library, and today I switched to stb_vorbis.
It turns out that the problem was always that even though I was using .ogg files, they weren't explicitly "OGG Vorbis" files. SDL_Mixer didn't mind and worked fine, but at least stb_vorbis didn't like that... Months without understanding why, and it was all because I was using a different type of the same file.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/991944141472813196.gif?quality=lossless&name=Vappy_flop&size=96

[analog oasis]

I have to be honest.
I don't want to talk about my problems in a public space, but...
Um... The Nintendo Switch game/framework engine project created with Haxe has been in a strange state for a while now. I stopped liking the project a while ago, and now I don't even understand the most important part of the engine, which is the renderer. I haven't achieved the performance I really want, but I also feel limited if I want more things, like shaders.
And above all, what's destroying me is the issue of shaders, because they're an important part of the OffBeat game. I can't leave them out.

The engine is in working order, but it's still nowhere near ready to actually make a game... Like the one I've been looking for for at least a year with the Wii U.

So... That's why I haven't shown much and I'm having doubts about whether to cancel the project and release it to the public in its current state (or maybe not even that, I'm not sure I want to make such garbage public), but that also means putting an end to HaxeNXCompiler (not definitively, but... Well, I don't have anything else to do on the console with Haxe if it wasn't the engine). I'm just not cut out for this kind of thing. It's not that I need a break from these kinds of projects, it's just that OpenGL is too complex for me, and I'm only destroying myself mentally and physically by maintaining a project that I'm growing to hate more and more, I'm the only idiot who's been working on this project (between the engine, the compiler, the OffBeat game, and partially the hxcpp fork) for three months straight, and it's exhausting.

[icy sandal]

Hey now

why you beating yourself up over reaching a bump in the road

there's absolutely nothing wrong with abondoning it, dropping it, or doing something else

if your skillset aint enough for now, nothing wrong with that

you've identified that you have a knowledge gap, stepping back and doing something else is actually the correct thing to do at minimum

there's many times where banging your head against the wall can be the right thing to do

and there's also a lot of times where it aint

you gotta figure out the threshold

and it isn't something static

The mind works like the body, if you're trying to lift something too heavy for you, its not going to move anywhere no matter how hard you try

if you're trying to tackle a problem that's too difficult/with missing context it isn't that its too hard to learn at all, it means you just haven't learnt what you need to learn to make where you are easier - it'll come with time

a lot of us in the server has been here :D

its not uncommon for programmers to have many unfinished projects x)

mix it up, do something you wanna do

[analog oasis]

That's how I am, it's part of my personal problems

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017295487742775306.png?quality=lossless&name=LeafLoaf&size=96

I kept going because I genuinely don't have any other projects to focus on, and I used it to escape my problems.
If I quit this, I'm basically giving up programming and Haxe until I find something new to focus on, and I don't have any other hobbies

But... Yes, I'm not getting anywhere because I'm basically not learning anything.
I learned about Switch modding, its SDK is beautiful and very easy to understand, but I didn't understand anything about OpenGL

I suppose I should leave it...
I'll think about whether to make it public, or at least make the Haxe/C++ bindings public, as they could be useful for someone else's projects

[icy sandal]

Well, if the whole point was to run on a game console

why not explore making some simple game you like

[analog oasis]

It's a good idea.
But I had no other games in mind other than a rhythm game, a VSRG

[analog oasis]

(Or not so much, because they depend on libraries that Haxe library itself does not provide. In other words, it's not like those cases of, for example, thats LuaJIT libraries, which come ready to work on various platforms right out of the box. It's just the Haxe code with the @:native)

[blissful otter]

aveces es necesario saber cuando parar caun

[analog oasis]

Y eso no es algo que yo haya aprendido mucho
No he dejado el proyecto porque quería sacarlo adelante, me caga qué entonces llevo un año y 3 proyectos consecutivos que no han logrado lo que quería

Supongo que al menos iré sacando poco a poco las librerías como la de OpenGL aun que sigan enfocadas a la Switch, ya podrá haber alguien que le sirva como base y agregue las liberias nativas como tal supongo

[blissful otter]

uno aveces tiene una mala racha, es algo que aprendi con los años

[blissful otter]

glm 👀

[analog oasis]

Nah, esa no creo, apenas y es funcional y realmente hay mucho código de C++ directo por errores de compilación, esa a sido una liberia que no entiendo como hacerle bindings xd

[analog oasis]

Desafortunadamente yo no me tomo bien fracasar en algo
Porque acá siquiera puedo decir que aprendí algo, si no fuera solo lo de libnx (el SDK de la Switch), pero no puedo realmente llevarme nada a comparación de como fue con Leafy Engine y SDL2

Tons medianamente perdí el tiempo
Por lo menos este no llego a ser un proyecto tan popular del cual varios esperaran algo supongo

Pero hacer un motor de juegos y más para una consola siendo el único que lo hace, es medio terminar pegandose un tiro, para mi OpenGL es más de lo que soy capaz de entender

El engine de la Switch a lo mejor si te deje hacer un juego sencillo, dale que con batching y eso todo debería estar bien, te compro incluso un fnf

Y mi idea fue esa, pasar de OffBeat y ver fnf, pero, nah

Estoy cansado de esto..

[blissful otter]

tomatelo chill y descansa

[analog oasis]

Long sigh

[analog oasis]

Well, in the class responsible for the Switch's touchscreen, I left a function to obtain an approximation of the pressure exerted on a touch... I don't know how useful it is or what use I would give it, but hey, it's not bad that it's there xD

[blissful otter]

lets make paint professional edition in the nintendo switch 😱

colors ds nintendo switch port

[analog oasis]

I have no idea how to do that kind of thing and... There is this (although I don't think it's really a drawing program)
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/colors-live-switch

[blissful otter]

peak

(i still dont know why the official version of colors for the ds doenst detect the touch pressure)

[analog oasis]

Este video lo explica todo (y es de donde quise yo ponerle eso al engine xd)
https://youtu.be/MWpgdLxilVY

[blissful otter]

asumare, guinxu seguia subiendo videos?

waos

[analog oasis]

Pos, si xd?

[blissful otter]

[analog oasis]

Another "reference" to the engine name

[analog oasis]

waa..

[blissful otter]

i hate making documentation

[analog oasis]

Yes... But anyway, I've finished it now.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1342888057103323169/1451599758064881806/image.png?ex=6946c31f&is=6945719f&hm=911d6ab1ed57c69350e1d20e296c0d2a418c87833a9851580fecde60482db42e&

And I've also finished a website for the project

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179072500018192444/1386491127242297384/925852250730004520.gif

[analog oasis]

Well. 24/12/2025

[blissful otter]

what the-

[analog oasis]

Mm?

[blissful otter]

im just dumb sorry

xd

[analog oasis]

I have everything ready for the launch of the engine
Now I just have to wait for the date when I want to make it public xd

[blissful otter]

merry krima

[rough lichen]

nx compiler will be a gift from santa

[analog oasis]

Yep, although well, the gift would be more like a... Framework engine, heh

And maybe a second gift, but I can't guarantee anything about that, and my priority is the engine itself (although continuing with OffBeat allows me to keep testing)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1366529844791345192/1451799874852098129/OffBeat_20251220_005102_00.mp4?ex=69477d7f&is=69462bff&hm=005d36295335c5b93dabcc84040b3f77a0c01521fc40a8a0df1c5e082c341621&

[whole turtle]

it will be fun to port fnf base game to this for me

[analog oasis]

That will be my job

[blissful otter]

a is an ''expert'' making fnf engines tbh

[analog oasis]

Also in recreating them? Because it's that... It wouldn't be porting, it would be recreation

[blissful otter]

yeah

[analog oasis]

Mm, well

There are still some things missing that make FNF work, and... Also OffBeat, like clipping for hold notes.

[blissful otter]

if the framework is in an early stage, it would basically involve doing an fnf in opengl, pptimizing it would be easy, and grouping the notes, strums, and holds into a spritesheet would reduce the number of draw calls when batching, hmm, thats possible

if you want perfect performance, it would be better to create an internal framework specialized in what you want to do

[whole turtle]

really ?

[blissful otter]

ofc

[whole turtle]

tyty

[analog oasis]

That's what OffBeat did. It had its own batching system when it didn't yet exist in the engine itself.
But it was very complex to maintain, and I want to redo it now to see if the engine's batching can handle it

[blissful otter]

hmmmm, if the notes are in the same ''z layer'' batching is easy, your framework should do it automatically

[blissful otter]

you make me believe that building fnf engines from scratch is as easy as drinking water

[whole turtle]

no it really isnt

the first time i tried it out i just copied legacy :soggycat:

it wasnt really fnf engine,

the very first one i did sucked

[analog oasis]

The engine's batching system works by grouping one or more sprites if they have the same texture, camera, shader, and shader values. If not, it will create another batch

[blissful otter]

its rare to do something well on the first try

[analog oasis]

Absolutely yes

[blissful otter]

hmmm

for basic things its good

thats how it should be done now that i think about it

[analog oasis]

I think it would work well for a FNF

[blissful otter]

yeah

i think thats the way how flixel does

optimizing draw calls in opengl is a headache

[analog oasis]

(if there is a shader, there is a more obvious draw call)

[analog oasis]

Yes.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/991944141472813196.gif?quality=lossless&name=Vappy_flop&size=96

[whole turtle]

the bunni pancake treatment

[analog oasis]

It's not for nothing that I wrote that long text a few days ago; I really wasn't having a good time in that regard..

But anyway, let's see if I can make a more organized and functional PlayState today, even if it's without hold notes

Another fox

[blissful otter]

i hate hold notes

[blissful otter]

b o r e d f o x

[whole turtle]

me too

[blissful otter]

creating holds in parts is hard because you dont know how many parts you need to create, creating holds by stretching the sprite is hard because you dont know how many pixels you need to stretch

i h a t e h o l d s

and code the holds gameplay is boring

and making them work in the chart editor

......

[analog oasis]

We need a library dedicated solely to creating hold notes for this type of game https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1233506342786826240.gif?quality=lossless&name=ShinxWag&size=96

[rough lichen]

shader values??

thats... weird

by example flixel saves color transform data and changes the shader data everytime smthing is drawn

so you can use a single shader in multiple textures, even when it haves different values

ur graphic system its like flixel or it has materials and stuff btw?

[analog oasis]

I'm only talking about post-processing shaders.
I use FBO for that, so... I didn't see how there could be several objects that had a shader with different values, so if one value is changed, it will go to another batch.

[analog oasis]

Although I'm having some minor issues with the z-order, it works perfectly. I even think it uses slightly less GPU usage than the previous batching system that OffBeat had

[blissful otter]

fr

[analog oasis]

I take back what I said, maybe with... 2 more playfields I'll reach the GPU limit (because of those shaders in the notes).
And I'm not going to overclock it from the engine, even though I've already seen something related to that in libnx

Well, from the renderer side, I don't have much of a solution. I've reached my limit there, and I can't optimize that
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1032643226055741450.png?quality=lossless&name=EspeonWhy&size=96

[rough lichen]

ohh alr

[rough lichen]

every note has its owj shader????

its own values??

[analog oasis]

Yes, but there are only four notes with four different values, so there are four more batches.
In other words, there is the upward direction note, which is green because of the shader, and that generates one batch, but if there is another upward direction note that is also green, it is added to that same batch

[rough lichen]

u can optimize them into 1 single batch tho

if u manage to swap values of a single shader while rendering

[analog oasis]

I don't understand

[rough lichen]

puedes hacer que sean un solo batch si logras hacer lo que dije

que es que 1 shader pueda ser un solo batch, incluso si sus valores son diferentes

incluso puedes juntar las strums en el mismo batch si usas sprite sheet

[blissful otter]

en opengl tienes programs [shaders] y buffers, el objetivo del batching es unificar varios objetos en un solo buffer y program, como resultado tienes solo una draw call

si tienes todas tus notas y holds en un spritesheet el batching es posible

[analog oasis]

Si fuese así lo hubiese hecho pero no encontré nada hacer del estilo, odio los ejemplos de OpenGL qué no van con lo que necesito o ni los entiendo

No le vi sentido a tener valores diferentes del shader y que afecten a un solo objeto en específico

[rough lichen]

que es lo mas optimo

[blissful otter]

que quieres hacer especificamente

[analog oasis]

Literalmente lo que dije, poder tener varios objetos que puedan tener un shader pero que este mismo tenga diferentes valores

Técnicamente se que se puede con instancias desde el vertex shader y eso

Porque ya lo hago con el shader que usa el batch para renderizarse

[blissful otter]

que valores, colores? rotacion?

[analog oasis]

Pero para shaders de post-procesado, no quiera esa cosa pq siento que complica todo, tons para eso use uniforms, pero a ese coste

[lavish roost]

que andan hablando chicos

[blissful otter]

opengl

[lavish roost]

quiero hablar con ustedes ola

como estan

[lavish roost]

Mejor no

[rough lichen]

es posible, solo tienes que hayar la manera de como, realmente no he tocado a fondo la api de OpenGL directamente

[analog oasis]

Lo que sea que tenga el shader, en este caso el valor del hueshift del shader

[lavish roost]

Mentira cual es el pedo

[rough lichen]

al final usaste vertex shader para eso????

[blissful otter]

que es hueshift [no soy mucho del apartado grafico]

[rough lichen]

el hue es el color

basicamente

[blissful otter]

osea, cambiar el color?

[analog oasis]

El vertex shader esta mayormente para ajustar las proyecciones y eso, y de recibir los datos de las instancia del objeto que quiero renderizar y pasarlo al fragment shader

Funciona bien para el batch porque es interno y ya

[lavish roost]

Ponle que un numerico wue define el posicionamiento de colores de -180 a 180

creo que ssi de simple

[rough lichen]

es un angulo que define en RGB

estan varios formatos de color, el hue forma larte del HSL

hue, saturacion y luz

[blissful otter]

hmm, okok, para ese tipo de casos yo simplemente mandaba el valor al buffer

[analog oasis]

Pero no quiero esa misma lógica que si bien si me dejaría tener valores diferentes por objeto dentro del mismo batch, complica todo cuando se supone que quiero agregar un shader de post-procesado, que no tenga que modificar el batch ni el engine en si, quiero uniforms qué son fáciles de usar

[blissful otter]

y el shader se encargaba de lo demas

asi me ahorraba la necesidad de usar uniforms

[lavish roost]

Es simple de entender y hacerlo realmemte

[blissful otter]

koko

[analog oasis]

Psych podía tener valores del RGBShsder individuales por nota, y que recordará eran simples uniforms tons no se

[lavish roost]

Eso me recuerda
Saliendome del tema

Hacer un shader de cambio de paletas de colores fue estúpidamente fácil

[blissful otter]

seeh

[blissful otter]

bueno

a la hora de manejar en pcs

ese tipo de cosas las puedes ignorar

pero al modificar otros sistemas

tienes que ser muy cuidadoso

[simplemente manda el valor que quieres con los datos de los vertices]

[lavish roost]

No se que tan eficiente sea el mio pero el mio necesitas
Linea A -> paleta original
Linea B -> Paleta Cambio

Primero lee la imagen o el array de colores (generalmente es mejor la imagen por comodidad) y se process primero, después cuando se lee la información del color se remplaza

[lavish roost]

También hice un shader de 3D

[rough lichen]

flixel genera batchs basados en grafico y shader, pero puedes usar 1 shader para infinitos sprites

[lavish roost]

Ironico porque no lo necesito

[lavish roost]

Godot tiene 3D en sí po

[analog oasis]

El tema es que bueno, ya vi que el OpenGL en la Switch es, el de PC, no es OpenGL ES, es el OpenGL normal
Tons debería estar cerca de, como debería funcionar en una PC

[lavish roost]

De la coss mas complicada que hice fue este fondo

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1372771213851754646/1449609119416713369/2025-12-13_21-39-42.mp4?ex=694816f2&is=6946c572&hm=7d9510a7bcd5edab6399b50f2adbd21aa6eb31a59787a28fb3287d57abc654cd&

[blissful otter]

el software es parecido, el hardware es diferente

[lavish roost]

El shader del roaring knight solo duplica el grafico 10 veces, lo separa en 20 y cuando llega a 80 hace un fade hssta 125 que reinicia su posición

[lavish roost]

Cual es la idea de OpenGL es y opengl

[analog oasis]

No.. Es similar a lo que estoy haciendo yo?
Solo que bueno, el mio se basa en cámara también pero aja

[lavish roost]

no se yo aprendi a usar vulkan perdón

[analog oasis]

Que sepa OpenGL ES esta hecho para dispositivos móviles y asi, es lo que tendría un teléfono, una Raspberry pi pico

[blissful otter]

OPENGL ES, hmm, es como un opengl ligero

[analog oasis]

Pero la Switch por lo que se, tiene Vulkan (no se que versión), OpenGL ES 3.2 Y OpenGL 4.3 (máximo 4.5)

[lavish roost]

Y por qué no usa OpenGL ES switch

Burno al menos el target de godot en switch si lo hsce wtf

no entendí na

Switch no uss Opengl ES??

Y si no

[analog oasis]

Tiene soporte

Pero yo no lo estoy usando hasta donde entiendo

[lavish roost]

con razón es un suicidio jugar en switch

[lavish roost]

Ahhh

Osea ya

weird

[analog oasis]

Estoy usando OpenGL normal xd

[lavish roost]

bueno no sería mejor intentar cambiar a opengl es?

o hay algo que te impide

[analog oasis]

Así viene de DevKitPro, vi que es OpenGL 4.3, no ES

[lavish roost]

tenganme paciencia soy tonta

[lavish roost]

what

[analog oasis]

Que solo tengo la librerías para OpenGL, no OpenGL ES

Tons así se quedó, a usar OpenGL, total si la Switch lo soporta

[rough lichen]

en camara tambien pero como es obvio no lo dije; pero tu estas tomando en cuenta los valores de shader tmb

[lavish roost]

Entonces es limitación de la librería madre (LibNX - DevKitPro) o?

Porque si lo es no hay mucho que hacer

Bueno va

[analog oasis]

De quien haya querido preferir qué OpenGL usar supongo xd, no de las dependencias

[lavish roost]

Esta la de ser el héroe y hacer todo de nuevo incluyendo el funcionamiento

[lavish roost]

Sigo sin entender de quién es la culpa

[analog oasis]

Bueno, si, porque no estoy haciendo lo mismo que hago internamente

[lavish roost]

Pero viendo que ya andas frustrado con esto, no creo que sea lo ideal

[analog oasis]

Es que no veo de quien seria la culpa
Supongo que los que portearon eso prefirieron el OpenGL normal, tal vez y es más completo que el ES

[blissful otter]

no hay ningun culpable, la switch deberia ser lo suficientemente potente como para que no se note la diferencia entre opengl es y opengl si lo usas de manera adecuada

[blissful otter]

opengl y opengles no tienen tanta diferencia de api, solo en el como esta construido

[lavish roost]

Pero es que tiene arquitectura de celular

No es un supuesto

es que

Es un suicidio en la batería usar una versión máximo rendimiento

[lavish roost]

Si yo de por si, en mi fangame sacrifico usando OpenGL pensando en compatibilidad

Y godot me la pone fácil

[blissful otter]

repito, no habria diferencia si lo usas de manera adecuada

[lavish roost]

es que no sé

[analog oasis]

Pero el chip es de Nvidia, la Switch es básicamente, es en teoría una Nvidia Shield

[lavish roost]

lo siento yapeao sinnsaber

[analog oasis]

Que usan también ARM

[lavish roost]

hello a

how are you

[whole turtle]

i wish i could understand spanish to figure out what you are all saying

[lavish roost]

we sre discussing about opengl

[blissful otter]

we are diving into deep rendering

[lavish roost]

Es que la cosa es que inclusive de placa Marilo y placa Erista hay diferencias de rendimiento no justificables

[lavish roost]

Switch normal 2017 mehh
2019 mejorcita
Lite mehhh
Oled va mejor en todos los casos

Yo tengo los 4 modelos

y en los 4 se nota la diferencia

[blissful otter]

suputamadre 😱

[analog oasis]

Pq en las placas de las Mariko usaron otro modo de diseñar el chip, y lo hacía más eficiente

Porque en la Lite sería meh si se supone que es también Mariko? Ni idea

Y de la Oled, tampoco tengo idea

[lavish roost]

Es también mariko

Desde 2019 es mariko

Y ambas funcionan diferente

Y repito e insisto

No tiene sentido

[analog oasis]

Pero a esa según que tenia otra versión más de la placa que permitia algo más de potencia

A mi solo me importa por la pantalla

[lavish roost]

por eso digo, por qué no usar OpenGL ES de base, sabiendo las limitaciones variables

[analog oasis]

Pero ando feliz con la V2

[lavish roost]

No realmente

[blissful otter]

como pasamos de hablar de manejo de datos en buffers a la arquitectura de la ds

x d

[lavish roost]

Tiene cambios y permitir más de 4gb de ram, pensada para 8 gb de ram y más overclock

Pero inssito

[blissful otter]

switch

[lavish roost]

No debería haber diferencia

[blissful otter]

tmr soy bien baboso

[analog oasis]

Ni idea
Ten en cuenta que a las finales en el desarrollo de juegos normales son usando la API propia de Nintendo que esta hecha para trabajar directo hacia la GPU

[lavish roost]

en teoría todas tienen las mismas especificaciones, solo lss mariko deberíann ir mejor

Y la oled

Pues tiene oled

[analog oasis]

Nintendo es raro, fin

[lavish roost]

Has visto unity en switch?

Y es oficial

Lo usan de manera oficial

Caídas de fps horribles

[analog oasis]

Realmente no, o no se

[lavish roost]

Links awakening no fue disfrutable a mi porque tenía que jugarlo con pausas

Porque primero

El shader horrible ese

Las caidas de frames

Lo tosco que se comportaban los menús en las primeras versiones

[analog oasis]

Que cagada que exista un mod para la Switch Lite para ponerle OLED pero no para la V2

Joda la Switch OLED es la más costosa de ponerle modchip https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/991944141472813196.gif?quality=lossless&name=Vappy_flop&size=96

[lavish roost]

Porque los data miners cuando descubrieron lss nuevas placas sd dieron cuenta de ambos modelos

Una version supuestamente pro (oled)
Y una versión barata (lite)

Entonces asumo que ambas placas son compatibles entre sí de alguna manera

[analog oasis]

O hay más interés en la Lite, ni idea
Yo estuve cerca de tener una Lite

Pero afortunadamente encontré la V2 al mismo precio que de una Lite xd

[lavish roost]

No, es que ambas se hicieron a la par

Probablemente sea limitación de software/ chipset

[analog oasis]

Pero no que la OLED salio bastante después de la Lite?

Que recuerde la OLED salio por allá del 2021, la Lite en 2019, siendo igual en 2019 la V2

[lavish roost]

Pero se filtsron ambas a la par po

Y la oled se retrasó porque ponerle más ram no le salia del todo bien

[analog oasis]

Bueh, si te das cuenta nos fuimos del tema

Acá no importa la versión de la Switch porque son básicamente la misma porquería bajo lo que estoy haciendo XDD

[lavish roost]

Conclusiones

Puto nintendo

[analog oasis]

Se

Yo más tarde veré que hago con el juego y ahora las putas hold notes

Y.. Quitaré ese otro playfield para dejar descansar un poco la GPU

[lavish roost]

Y si renderizo las notas por shader

[analog oasis]

Trate de hacer esa lógica que dijo Theo o algo similar y solo me quedo las ganas de tirar la laptop contra la pared y volverla polvo y que me va a dar un derrame

Tons se queda como lo hice de por shader y valores y listo, aun que haya mejores maneras yo simplemente no se implementarlas en lo absoluto XD

[analog oasis]

Modcharts?? Or, well, one modchart xd

I need to implement HScript if I'm going to put modcharts in, I can't keep recompiling for changes like that... The problem is that the file still has to be on the Switch... I have to see if there's a background FTP module for the console

[blissful otter]

use nxscript :v

[analog oasis]

I'm not sure how to use nxscript, and... I prefer to play it safe and use HScript Iris

[blissful otter]

ok😔

[rough lichen]

not stable enough

i tried to use it for one of my projects and got precedence bugs

thought u could use hscript rewrite, but no oop

or lite

[blissful otter]

how you could handle modcharts with oop?

use lua

[rough lichen]

could be an option too

but he would need to compile the c side of the library for switch

[blissful otter]

oh

use rulescript

[rough lichen]

another good option

[rough lichen]

whiich is not that hard, i did it several times for hxlua

but for windows

[blissful otter]

hmmmm

what scripting options are in haxe

[rough lichen]

also with lua you got a jit compiler

faster runtime

[rough lichen]

lua and hscript +variationd

[blissful otter]

the jit is compatible with switch instructions?

[blissful otter]

sad 😔

[rough lichen]

got its own vm so yea

[blissful otter]

use hxpy

peak

[rough lichen]

the sdk does all of the work

[rough lichen]

unstable too

iirc

[blissful otter]

everything is unstable 😭

make your own version of hscript

https://tenor.com/view/gato-gif-8519052141498810062

[rough lichen]

im making a scripting lang

but im still figuring out how to properly do it

so it can work well with oop natively

it wouldnt be reflection based, it will have its own std library, and for use it u will have to expose your api by yourself

so its faster

[blissful otter]

fr

i have a lang with own std and everything

[blissful otter]

wdym

like? with native haxe classes?

[rough lichen]

no no

i mean im still figuring out how to structure the oop support

[blissful otter]

hmmm

i struggled with that too

that is my structure

[rough lichen]

oh

im still thinking on how to structure mines tho

[blissful otter]

you already have instances done? like, some basic classes made in haxe like a String class or Math

thats the first thing i did

[rough lichen]

i had

[blissful otter]

what happened

[rough lichen]

rn im rewriting everything

[blissful otter]

oh

[rough lichen]

im in the Parser stage rn

[blissful otter]

https://github.com/JonkIsKindaCool/Jang/tree/main

this might help if you get lost, although id recommend doing it thinking about how you want the language to work, this is a basic example of a language with its own logic

[analog oasis]

There's already a compiled library of Lua 5.1 for the Switch, but I don't feel like doing the bindings, and I think it not uses JIT, The Switch normally not.. Like that

[analog oasis]

(shader by @green crest, heh)

[blissful otter]

nice

[lavish roost]

And instead of opening issues:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254571495167098941/1313681768574091275/copy_84877E2E-E21A-463A-AA2D-A728D047E8FE.gif

[blissful otter]

guer is mai rejister bi em

[rough lichen]

i needed scriptings asap so i switched to lua

srry 🙏

but iirc it was some ops being on the right rather that the left side

[lavish roost]

Ohh sorry

Yeha messed up by adding ().sqrt(2)

[rough lichen]

i mean semanticly wrong

i dont remember the operation i did but i remember it was doing it right handled when it should be left handled

[lavish roost]

yeah

i know

like

member == null and member.exists
should be

if member is null, everything is false so why eval the rest

[analog oasis]

How frustrating it is to try to make a modchart with only code and, on top of that, having a modchart system that is too basic and unstable, plus the unstable FTP connection between the console and the PC, and the console itself crashing easily.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1038504080722645072.png?quality=lossless&name=EB_SylveonDespair&size=96

[rough lichen]

bro a modcharting system is literally

basic linear algebra

note position vector -> modifier transformation phase -> output vector

tweens and everything else its a plus

[analog oasis]

The main problem is how I make the modchart itself. I know what I have is basic, but it's enough for what I need.
What I can't stand is having to do that in code and having to restart the game for every change

[rough lichen]

well i mean scripting in console platfotms makes no sense

[blissful otter]

what is algebra

[blissful otter]

true

[rough lichen]

linear algebra, simplified its just vectors and matrix transformations

it has a lot of things behind but

its basicly that

[analog oasis]

And... Also, I haven't made a modchart in about a year. The last one I made was for C18H27NO3 in Slushi Engine, using the modchart editor from modcharting tools... I almost never use scripts to make modcharts with that tool

[rough lichen]

u can make ur own

as i said its not hard yk

[blissful otter]

oh

nice

[analog oasis]

Do you think I know how to do that? Honestly, no

[analog oasis]

I even thought about using MT's own editor, since the exported file is JSON and I can easily interpret it in OffBeat, but even so, it's more work than I really want to do

I'm better off looking for something else to do in the engine that... might be more stable and leaving OffBeat aside.
The question is, what do I do? Do I make a trailer in the engine itself? Idk

[rough lichen]

tbh u should do ur own

learn bro

emulating mt its harder than making your own

[rough lichen]

notePos = vec3(x,y,z)

func modify(vec):
if drunk != 0.:
vec.x += .... * drunk;

newPos = modify(notePos)

note.setPosition(newPos)

thats it.

obviouslr mt like modular modifiers got its way to work but tbh its inneficient and hard to maintain

[blissful otter]

nice pseudocode

[rough lichen]

im pretty sure if FunkinModchart got inlined that kind of code would be the output

fm its the same shit but a bit modular so u can sort modifier precedence

[analog oasis]

I'm just referring to the editor to make modchart easier and more convenient.
That's the problem I have, and the lack of time itself doesn't help.
I just want to have something to put on YouTube.

[rough lichen]

ive made other ones, 4 example a python engine were making for Lettuce floor v2 and other for my own engine in Heaps for 17Undertoaderos

it uses that

a transform function

so its fast as fuck

[rough lichen]

ngl i never liked editors

[analog oasis]

Because basically, I have everything else ready to launch the project to the public

[rough lichen]

u have more flexibility writting modcharts

with code

[analog oasis]

For me personally, it's been the opposite hwh

[rough lichen]

https://streamable.com/xohsna
this is python, the modcharting module doesnt exceed the 600 lines of code

exec....Mods its just a if sequence

if (mod != 0) pos.... * mod

[analog oasis]

Bueh igualmente el problema del sistema de modcharts qué tengo es que lo he estado haciendo medio a lo speed run, no con calma alguna

Y básicamente prefiero es descatarlo junto a OffBeat para lo que quería

Y centrarme en algo que pueda hacer con calma y que sirva

Total OffBeat no lo pienso lanzar aún, pero quiero tener algo para anunciar en YT xD, no hacer como Leafy Engine qué solo lo anuncie en este server

[analog oasis]

tomorrow.

[blissful otter]

gihuv

[analog oasis]

mm

[blissful otter]

doitnow

[analog oasis]

[showcase]
https://youtu.be/e2W7iYMqzCg
https://github.com/Slushi-Github/Vupx-Engine

[candid hamlet]

It's nice and all technically speaking, but you should be careful: Nintendo lawyers are no joke

[analog oasis]

I have made it clear that it is for homebrew purposes, since basically everything is made with things found in the homebrew community for the console

That's not something I like to think about; I just prefer to enjoy doing the project and achieving what I want

[candid hamlet]

That's up to you 👍 . These are definitely gray areas and it can be a slipery slope, but I understand it can be fun to do

[analog oasis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179072500018192444/1386491127242297384/925852250730004520.gif?ex=69468b3c&is=694539bc&hm=cf9f5f6e75d3970d3eca0296b9f7e5559e0b2c617e6327c79686fa6939a4fe15&

[candid hamlet]

I guess Nintendo won't bother you as long as you don't try to make money out of any of this, but better be cautious about what you are doing and sharing online about it

[analog oasis]

I've known that I can't make money from it since I made the Leafy Engine project public, the engine for the Wii U.
But anyway, what matters to me first and foremost is enjoying myself and gaining some knowledge through these projects

Let's just see what happens in the future heh https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1224557848059580466.gif?quality=lossless&name=Eevee_Chipi&size=96

[analog oasis]

With this, I can officially say that I fulfilled the whim I had that initially made me want to get a Wii U.
Although, well, Leafy Engine wasn't even close to handling what I show in that video
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1235672310770565150.gif?quality=lossless&name=LeafBop&size=96

[blissful otter]

switch 1 - wiiu 0

[analog oasis]

Merry Christmas heh

[blissful otter]

merry christmas too

[analog oasis]

https://youtu.be/JPEaIVaPkKo

[analog oasis]

When I continue with Vupx Engine, I will most likely make another post specifically for that project heh

[analog oasis]

Sockets and HTTP/HTTPS requests are finally working on the Nintendo Switch target!

[blissful otter]

meVoid

🔥

[blissful otter]

para eso era

[analog oasis]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1225185557425164378.png?size=160

[analog oasis]

Realmente no, era algo que tenia pendiente desde el inicio del proyecto, pero lo fui dejando de lado hasta hoy
Lo de esa librería fue una joda qué vino hace unas semanas pero no la hice porque no tenía soporte para esas cosas por culpa del mismo hxcpp
Hasta hoy que... Recordé esa joda y, la verdad no tenía mejor forma de probar como iba xD

[blissful otter]

trollcrab

[analog oasis]

Obviamente si los cambios están allí es pq funcionó a la perfección

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1222371409095954552.png?size=160

[blissful otter]

[heavy siren]

[analog oasis]

That stupid line of socketExit(); prevents Atmosphere from crashing completely, instead triggering Nintendo's crash handler.

Progress perhaps for... Vupx Engine, but I still can't figure out why the program crashes when exiting

[blissful otter]

how are you closing the gmae

[analog oasis]

Closing everything and running the GC about 5 times, that's in Vupx Engine.
But the crash occurs in projects as simple as a hello world where nothing from the Switch is initialized, just, well, the Haxe stuff itself

NAH ESO NO TIENE SENTIDO, SIQUIERA LO HE IMPLEMENTADO-

Esas direcciones de memoria las ando sacando a lo medio random o a ciegas, no entiendo bien los logs de crasheos de la Switch

[blissful otter]

intenta usando exitConsole en finalizeEngine?
no veo que lo uses, y segun devkitswitchpro dice que esa funcion limpia todo lo inservible

puede que ahi este el problema

[analog oasis]

Exitconsole es para cuando uso la consola de texto, esa no la puedo usar si he iniciado OpenGL..
Sin eso si, crashea el programa pero.. Pues no estoy usandolo
Igual, probaré

Es que de hecho si lo uso pero si tratas de iniciar el engine en el modo Applet, cosa que yo al final vuelvo a cerrar pero pos, igual crashea

[blissful otter]

damn

incluso crashea al notener nada en pantalla?

[analog oasis]

Se, incluso si es un simple proyecto que hace un trace("hello world");

El peo esta en Hxcpp, donde? Ni puta idea

Si me paso a un hxcpp más nuevo, el programa crashea inmediatamente, acá por lo menos es al salir

[blissful otter]

daamn

[analog oasis]

E igualmente portear lo que ya hice en mi fork a una versión más nueva de hxcpp es.. Ahm, me da pereza xD

[blissful otter]

holy

[analog oasis]

Lo peor es que sucedío.. Poco después del inicio del proyecto

Y estoy seguro que el GC tiene algo que ver en esto

Pero y yo cuando he querido tocar Immix xD?

He tocado mayormente la parte de std

Osea donde esta Sys, Socket, File, esas cosas
Pero no más, aparte de si alguna liberia aparte de las que se encarga de los sockets

Pero Immix que es el GC de hxcpp.. Jamás lo he tocado
Hay algo de Linux de alli que no le gusta a la Switch

[blissful otter]

el gc de hxcpp apesta

[analog oasis]

Actualizar Atmosphere no soluciona el problema
No se si actualizar HorizonOS porque no quiero y después no puedo hacer downgrade

[analog oasis]

(y digo Linux porque la mayoría del target se aguanta sobre el soporte de ARM64 de Linux de hxcpp xd)

[blissful otter]

weno, sera vivir con crashes

[analog oasis]

Se

Igualmente la Switch se reinicia rápido y eso

Pero es que es normal que un programa homebrew te deje regresar al menú de homebrew xd

O usarlo desde el modo Applet

Que estoy seguro que mi engine es lo suficientemente bueno para aguantar sobre 300 MB de RAM y en si poca cantidad de recursos

Pero un crash y se lleva todo.. Sin ese modo, pues sale el crash handler de Nintendo

De allí a que yo lo haya bloqueado en el engine
Se puede hacer bypass pero, nah

Tons, si, me rindo, que se queden los crasheos y ya, que se jodan

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/990612026051153960.png?quality=lossless&name=Vappy_smirk&size=96

[blissful otter]

[analog oasis]

Aun queda pendiente el peo con Lime

Este comentario me emputo XDD, si fuese fácil obvio me encantaría usar HaxeFlixel en vez de haber hecho un engine propio

[blissful otter]

kill that guy

[analog oasis]

Another attempt...

[analog oasis]

...

Okay. I'll take that as progress.

no OpenGL, no CURL, no EFSW, but I was able to get something

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/889683373218463807.png?quality=lossless&name=LeafCute&size=96

@rough lichen @blissful otter @lavish roost

[lavish roost]

omg

how

[analog oasis]

I torture myself and change several things, tricking the code just so it compiles
I have no idea if it works, especially without OpenGL

[lavish roost]

worried

im going to try the engine

where is the download

where to down load

!!

[analog oasis]

I really don't know if it works, but I'm happy to have created this.

[lavish roost]

WHERE TO DOWNLOAD

[analog oasis]

which engine?

[lavish roost]

id ont know

whatever is more stable

to do sometghing

like

under tale

or basic rpg movement

[analog oasis]

The only engine you can still use on the Switch with Haxe is Vupx Engine
https://slushi-github.github.io/Vupx-Engine

[lavish roost]

it was so peak

sobs

[analog oasis]

I don't think that Lime will work yet, and I'm not going to do anything with other libraries until I get the OpenGL part to compile.

[lavish roost]

hmm

@blissful otter wanna colaborate to slushi to make work lime on hb-switch?

i have a switch

well i have the 4 models of switch, old, 1.1, lite and oled

pacman :v

[analog oasis]

The problem with OpenGL and much of Lime is their foolishness in wanting to use cffi for everything, something that my hxcpp doesn't have fully implemented for the Switch, and normally the Switch doesn't like things like FFI either

[lavish roost]

it is fuckling funny since i already have arch linxu and im installing libnx devkit on windows

[analog oasis]

XDD

[lavish roost]

hmm

what about to make static methods instead of dynamic ones

@analog oasis para usar el newrepo lo hago desde el msys o con terminal normal?

ag

pregunta estupida

[analog oasis]

That's what I have in mind,
although I'm surprised that Lime doesn't already do it when there are things like “static_link.

[analog oasis]

donde prefieras XD, de eso se encarga haxelib

[lavish roost]

worried

[blissful otter]

hmmm yeah why not

[analog oasis]

con HaxeNXCompiler probablemente si mejor una terminal normal

[lavish roost]

!!

[lavish roost]

wenorp

no hay version en espanol 0/1o0

[analog oasis]

bueno perate a que pueda subir los putos cambios XD

[blissful otter]

okok

[lavish roost]

worried

[analog oasis]

nah alli no quise hacer eso XD

[lavish roost]

is there a way to know if im in applet mode

?

[analog oasis]

import switchlib.services.Applet;

 public static function isRunningAsApplet():Bool {
        return Applet.appletGetAppletType() != AppletType.AppletType_Application && Applet.appletGetAppletType() != AppletType.AppletType_SystemApplication;
    }

But Vupx Engine already does that for you; it simply won't let you start in that mode

[lavish roost]

does vupux latest version alreadyu out?

fuction

worried

ahhh

[analog oasis]

:3

[blissful otter]

MorganXD

[lavish roost]

worried

what im doing wrong

ahh

forgot to put vupx

so silly

what

wth

[analog oasis]

ahm, ya eso yo no lo pongo ni lo pone el compilador XD, como es tu xml?

[lavish roost]

el que genero

[analog oasis]

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<project>
    <!-- ========================================== -->
    <!-- HAXE CONFIGURATION (Required)              -->
    <!-- ========================================== -->

    <!-- Source directory -->
    <source path="source" />

    <!-- Main class entry point -->
    <haxemain name="source.Main" />

    <!-- Error reporting style: pretty, indent, or classic -->
    <haxeerrorreportingstyle type="pretty" />

    <!-- C++ output directory -->
    <cppoutput path="output" />

    <!-- Haxe debug mode -->
    <haxedebug value="false"/>

    <!-- ========================================== -->
    <!-- NINTENDO SWITCH CONFIGURATION (Required)   -->
    <!-- ========================================== -->

    <!-- Project name and console IP for deployment -->
    <switchproject name="ProjectExample" consoleip="0.0.0.0"/>

    <!-- Application metadata for Nintendo Switch -->
    <switchmeta apptitle="Vupx Engine project example" appversion="1.0.0" appauthor="Slushi" />

    <!-- ========================================== -->
    <!-- BUILD CONFIGURATION                        -->
    <!-- ========================================== -->

    <!-- Number of parallel jobs for make (1-16) -->
    <makefilejobs value="2" />

    <!-- Send to Switch after successful compilation -->
    <sendaftercompile value="false"/>

    <!-- Delete temporary files after compilation -->
    <deletetemporalfiles value="true"/>

    <!-- ========================================== -->
    <!-- HAXE LIBRARIES                             -->
    <!-- ========================================== -->

    <haxelib name="vupxengine"/>
</project>

definitivamente no entendiste el punto de que es un xml de ejemplo

[lavish roost]

worried

[blissful otter]

SCfloppaXD

[lavish roost]

everyone hates me

[blissful otter]

archmomento

[analog oasis]

windows no? debes cambiar en las variables de entorno las rutas de devkitpro y asi

[lavish roost]

worried

como asi

que muevo

[analog oasis]

por defecto por alguna razon te ponen las de Linux

[blissful otter]

ohno

[analog oasis]

las rutas, busca donde instalaste DevKitPro y cambialas alli

[lavish roost]

asumo que es esto

[analog oasis]

sip

[lavish roost]

por qué ponen las d e Linux

[analog oasis]

ni idea

[lavish roost]

perra madre

[analog oasis]

te siguen faltando cosas XD

[lavish roost]

PERO ME INSTALE LO QUE DECIA

[analog oasis]

ya hazlo en Linux, es mas facil

[lavish roost]

pero

pinchemadre contfigo

[blissful otter]

💔

[analog oasis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1134924655065563157.png?quality=lossless&name=Neko_stupid&size=96

[lavish roost]

pinchemadre

igual no ando siguiendo la guia

ando haciendo pura intuicion

😟

mas al ratop le intento

por que no hay algo mas como el exe de windows

[analog oasis]

listo
me tuve que sacar de encima los estupidos submodulos del repositorio, me estaban causando dolores de cabeza
https://github.com/Slushi-Github/lime-nx

bueno, esto es un logro XD, pero me falta cambiar que muchas librerias que estan alli, usen directamente solo los headers de devkitpro y no su propia build que lo hace lime

[blissful otter]

SCfloppaSURPRISED

[whole turtle]

made a pr https://github.com/Slushi-Github/lime-nx/pull/1

[blissful otter]

hello

[analog oasis]

Mm, that change isn't necessary, or rather, it's not a problem if the links continue to send to the OpenFL links.
For now, it's still almost the same Lime.

What I'm wondering is whether it's worth basing my fork on a Lime from September 2025, or whether I should try a more recent one.

I honestly don't know. Except for some recent changes regarding externs, my hxcpp fork is still multiplatform without any problems, but Lime... I don't know, I don't know if it's bad to stick with an old version, I don't know what's new in Lime that my version doesn't have.
Anyway, updating all of Lime and getting that library agian is kind of... screwing myself over, so better not

[blissful otter]

idk if recent versions of openfl uses the most recent limes features

[analog oasis]

Well, it seems it was as easy as removing a block from OpenGLBindings.cpp that was like dlopen(“libGL.so.1”, RTLD_NOW | RTLD_GLOBAL); when compiling to Switch, and that was it, no errors.

[blissful otter]

zip

[analog oasis]

I wonder what... I do now?
As far as I understand, OpenFL also had changes for the Switch, but, well, I don't know, I have no idea how Lime's SDKs work for consoles XD

I have to modify HaxeNXCompiler to include a new library that doesn't come from DevKitPro... and... I'm afraid to try something with this thing

Well, no way, let's move on to the next step...

[rough lichen]

i think lime handles most of the backend stuff

[analog oasis]

Anyway, I need to... Set aside HaxeNXCompiler, since it's not designed in the slightest to work with the Lime structure, only normal Haxe projects.
I'm going to try to compile an OpenFL hello world project, and if I succeed, then I'll do the manual linking process to get the executable for the Switch.
Logically, I should let Lime do the HaxeNXCompiler process, the linking process, but it doesn't matter for now

[blissful otter]

✅

[analog oasis]

Well, after some changes in SwitchPlatform, I was able to run a lime test switch, and it's quite random for me to see that it does something and doesn't say that I'm missing the "lime-switch" library

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1290069227059023902.png?size=160

[blissful otter]

wait wha

[analog oasis]

Well, finally, there it is, libApplicationMain.a, the almost final file.

I'm still not ready to claim victory, though. Everything could fall apart during the linking process, and I have no idea about the files, i.e., whether OpenFL will find that font it wants and all that. I don't know anything yet, but having that libApplicationMain.a there is pretty good heh

And finally,
I have no idea how I made so much progress today compared to previous times. Today I did it to try, but I wasn't expecting anything. I expected to get to the same point as always, but this time, even if it fails in the linking process, it's just interesting, and I don't even have the same level of fatigue that I had several times with Vupx Engine

[analog oasis]

wa..

What the hell does that mean? I gave him his fucking liblime.a. In theory, it's the same shit as lime.ndll no..?

Could it be that Lime still wants to load the stupid .ndll?

Yes, that's what it wants, but... a static compilation should prevent this, it seems I'm misunderstanding something

[blissful otter]

skulld

[lavish roost]

Ask on lime ..1

[analog oasis]

I have no choice...
This is what I'm facing:
It turns out that Lime generates a small main.cpp
that seems to load what previously gave me those errors, but, uh, the library itself doesn't have... those functions, so it can't find them?

/opt/devkitpro/devkitA64/lib/gcc/aarch64-none-elf/15.2.0/../../../../aarch64-none-elf/bin/ld: Main.o: in function `main':
/home/slushi/Proyectos/LimeSwitch/bin/switch/obj/Main.cpp:25:(.text.startup.main+0xc): undefined reference to `zlib_register_prims'
/opt/devkitpro/devkitA64/lib/gcc/aarch64-none-elf/15.2.0/../../../../aarch64-none-elf/bin/ld: /home/slushi/Proyectos/LimeSwitch/bin/switch/obj/Main.cpp:26:(.text.startup.main+0x10): undefined reference to `lime_cairo_register_prims'
/opt/devkitpro/devkitA64/lib/gcc/aarch64-none-elf/15.2.0/../../../../aarch64-none-elf/bin/ld: /home/slushi/Proyectos/LimeSwitch/bin/switch/obj/Main.cpp:27:(.text.startup.main+0x14): undefined reference to `lime_openal_register_prims'
/opt/devkitpro/devkitA64/lib/gcc/aarch64-none-elf/15.2.0/../../../../aarch64-none-elf/bin/ld: /home/slushi/Proyectos/LimeSwitch/bin/switch/obj/Main.cpp:29:(.text.startup.main+0x18): undefined reference to `lime_register_prims'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

[blissful otter]

damn, cairo in the nintendo switch

[analog oasis]

Well, I asked the question on the OpenFL server, so let's wait and see what comes of it..

[blissful otter]

nice

[analog oasis]

At least when the program crashes, it doesn't cause Atmosphere to crash as well; it just brings up Nintendo's crash handler

[blissful otter]

🙏

[analog oasis]

Well, I was officially able to launch Lime on the Nintendo Switch, although It tried to use Cairo to launch the window and it crashed XDD

This is the first time these Atmosphere logs have provided me with truly useful information

Random thing, as far as I know, it seems that the same dependencies Lime uses to compile Switch are the same as those used by Vupx Engine xD. Of course, Lime uses more things, but in terms of libraries, if you have what you need to compile Vupx Engine, you will automatically have what you need for Lime

[blissful otter]

theres cairo for the switch?

Flushed_Moyai

[analog oasis]

Idk

From what I can see, Lime will use Cairo when it does not have access to hardware acceleration, but why would it not have it? The terminal does not print anything about something like that

[blissful otter]

cairo is something diferent

its like opengl - vulkan

but for two d

[analog oasis]

Mmmmmmmmmm

MMMMMMM

It is trying to load this...

Okay, I'll definitely leave it there for today, I'm already starting to burn out mentally https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1036754016283140209.png?quality=lossless&name=EB_LeafeonScared&size=96

[blissful otter]

invasion

[analog oasis]

I think the only issue I have is with OpenAL Soft, which doesn't compile if it's a static link, and... Well, for now it's disabled

[blissful otter]

theres an document that talks about openal in the switch

https://riunet.upv.es/server/api/core/bitstreams/9c30bd8e-3d01-4489-87d1-8f85706767f9/content

it talks about openal in the devkitswitchpro

[analog oasis]

Waa y en español? Que raro pero interesante xD, bueno lo tendré en cuenta

El tema que vi es que falla al inializar OpenAL, pero cuando lo probé fue.. No se, creo que fue sin el soft, por lo que tal vez eso haya causado los crasheos

[blissful otter]

tararoesoah

[analog oasis]

Todo eso es de prueba y error y seguirá siendo así antes de tener algo primero, funcional xd

Recompilar Lime
Recompilar el proyecto
Hacer proceso de link
Pasarlo a la consola, ver que crashea
Ver el archivo de log y pasarlo por addr2line, averiguar

Y así repetir el ciclo

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1227066436552233055.png?size=160

[blissful otter]

el dolor que los desarrolladores de otros sistemas viven a diario

son los reales ''no tengo boca y debo gritar''

[analog oasis]

Bueno, esto pasa cuando básicamente estas experimentando xD
Supongo que la vía fácil es acceder al Nintendo Developer Portal y pedir el Lime y eso

Pero, nah nah, no quiero el puto Nintendo NDA
(nunca me van a dejar entrar a ese programa después de este proyecto https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/991944141472813196.gif?quality=lossless&name=Vappy_flop&size=96 )

[blissful otter]

decadencia o ascendencia

[analog oasis]

Idk, depende de lo que quiera en el futuro xd

[analog oasis]

Okay... OpenFL insists on using Cairo, the error comes from BitmapData... Although, well, the crash is on Lime's side, so how do I deal with OpenGL? In which case does OpenFL or Lime use it? Because all the code leads me to something in Cairo, the Haxe code and the hxcpp C++ compilation code.

But, literally, there's supposed to be no code related to compiling Cairo in the Lime library when compiling to Switch.
I have no idea if Cairo works on a Switch, probably yes, but maybe it's under confidential issues...

[blissful otter]

why openfl would be using cairo?

oh, the graphics function

class*

that has sense

[analog oasis]

I think some part of Lime is reporting that it use software... Therefore, it will use Cairo

Or, my other worse suspicion is that I see a lot of #if lime_cffi that are related to OpenGL... And... Obviously, it didn't compile with that.

[blissful otter]

damn

[analog oasis]

If I can't force OpenGL, I'm in a bit of a strange situation, because I don't know anything about Cairo. The functions I see don't reach Cairo libraries or anything, just Lime functions that mention things about Cairo (plus, in theory, liblime.a doesn't have anything from Cairo, so it's not like I can do that... Should I let it compile Cairo?)

Later I'll try to see what happens if I compile Cairo under that target. I'm sure something will go wrong because it's not ready for Switch or anything like that.
But basically, it crashes when trying to create the graphics

[blissful otter]

no se si cairo funcione en la switch

porque cairo usa backends dependiendo del sistema como win32 x11 etc

y supongo que ademas de el software, openfl usara cairo para todo lo referente a graficos vectoriales

que sepa, graphics funciona en base a graficos vectoriales

o quizas estoy mal

pero no se si la switch y su sistema operativo tenga uno de los backends que cairo usa

[analog oasis]

Yo creo que directamente no

Pq, bueno, no es un sistema normal.. Tons no se

No tengo errores específicos

Solo se que el programa esta tratando de acceder a puntos de la memoria inválidos

Al rato como dije probaré en dejar que compile Cairo, solo a ver que resulta si en primer lugar deja compilar la librería, pq dudo que encuentre lo que necesita

Openal no compila porque se queda buscando cosas de Linux como PulseAudio, o si no tira a CFFI cosa que en la Switch no funciona

Tons.. Idk, estoy perdido xD, no creo que acá los de Lime puedan ya ayudarme

[blissful otter]

el dolor que ocultan los desarrolladores de otros sistemas

😔

ahora imagina desarrollar homebrew para la ps3

[analog oasis]

Te digo algo? Por culpa de una PS3 es que ando con todos estos proyectos xD

Yo había conseguido una PS3 a la que me intereso ponerle homebrew pero la consola estaba dañada y luego se terminó de dañar completamente

[blissful otter]

suele pasar (me paso)

[analog oasis]

Mi 3DS esta rota y no es muy.. Buena idea usarla

De allí me agarre la Wii U cuando la conseguí y de última la Switch

Pero si no hubiese sido por la PS3 dudo que estuviera con estos proyectos

[blissful otter]

yo hacia homebrew de la wii

no me gusto

[analog oasis]

Hay uno que estaba haciendo fnf para la wii xd

Con Love2D creo

[analog oasis]

Allí pregunte, no pierdo nada en intentarlo supongo..
Pero si Lime sigue forzado a querer usar Cairo, no tengo chance xD

Oh no.

Necesito Cairo si o si?? No me jodas-

[whole turtle]

[analog oasis]

For a reason, the first thing I did when I started modifying Lime months ago was to prevent Cairo from compiling. It was obvious that it wasn't going to compile, or at least not easily, under this stupid target.

Well, a version of the library with the Cairo compilation.

[blissful otter]

love2d para la wii???

calvinSorprendido

[whole turtle]

[analog oasis]

se XD

[blissful otter]

love2d es clave

[blissful otter]

damn, usar cairo para las imagenes es duro

no era tan dificil usar stb_image / sdl_image

[analog oasis]

se, pero bueno, alguna razon debia haber cuando se creo OpenFL o algo asi xd

[blissful otter]

decadencia

[analog oasis]

OHHHHHHHHHHHH

VAMOSSSS JAJAJAJAJ

[blissful otter]

ASCENDENCIA

[analog oasis]

@rough lichen @lavish roost
Se logró, OpenFL y Lime en Nintendo Switch

[blissful otter]

la fokin ascendencia

ahora compila flix-

[lavish roost]

Ahora flixel

[blissful otter]

lo dijo ella yo no

[analog oasis]

Calma, primero debería dejar de hacer manual los procesos de copiar la librería y assets y todo

[blissful otter]

@ninjamuffin te toca w :v

[analog oasis]

Debo hacer una pequeña versión de HaxeNXCompiler dentro de Lime

[blissful otter]

dayum

wait

si love2d hay en la wii

fnf en la wii es real

este dia estuvo lleno de noticias ascendentes

[analog oasis]

No puede ser que logre en 3 días lo que no logre hace meses ._.xD

Ah pero claro... No hay audio, no hay OpenAL

Queda esa cosa pendiente creo

[blissful otter]

openfl en la switch w

pura ascendencia

ignora openal

[analog oasis]

Y todo bajo cosas de homebrew

[blissful otter]

https://tenor.com/view/peak-its-so-peak-praying-hands-praying-black-guy-gif-9969548697603007069

[analog oasis]

Y a ciegas de como debia ser en esa cosa de lime-switch y lime-console

Claro que sigo sin saber si esta corriendo sobre únicamente Cairo o parcialmente OpenGL, no se comprobar eso

Pero saben que haré primero? Irme a descansar porque de la emoción me dará algo xD, mejor lo dejo hasta acá por ahora o por hoy

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nice

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is this lime finally not shitting itself?

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openfl i think

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both

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which means lime didnt shit itself :3

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https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

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when is flixel switch port comin

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Even so, I think HaxeFlixel will have to wait. I don't know why, but I feel like it will cause me problems.
But I certainly don't know how to use pure OpenFL either. I'll have to look at the other examples in the OpenFL samples library

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At the rate I'm going, I'll probably start testing HaxeFlixel within this week.

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Until I run this demo, I won't declare this project completely finished.
https://haxeflixel.com/demos/Mode/

And why Mode? Because of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWDq7XIy24o

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damn i remember that video

im still wondering, what is using openfl for rendering in the wiiu

me and another guy were seaching how to compile lime to the wiiu like 3 years ago

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Here it was explained, I think.
https://www.fortressofdoors.com/openfl-for-home-game-consoles

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uh, so I'm not the first one to try that

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i remember that post too

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yep

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Even though I never managed to get hxcpp working, looking at everything it seems that I had no chance of getting Lime to work on a Wii U, due to the nature of the console.

Another point in favor of the Switch over the Wii U in my Haxe projects on consoles xd

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the people who managed to run lime on the wii u are engineers with years or decades of experience, thats why i gave up trying to compile it

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Maybe if I could get hxcpp to work on Wii U, but is it worth it? I can't see any significant benefits apart from greater stability and not having to reimplement everything that Haxe has, but I still wouldn't have OpenGL, so I'd have to stick with SDL2.

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nintendo should make free the wiiu sdk :v

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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

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It's impossible for Nintendo to do something like that XD.
But remember that for hxcpp on the Wii U, they used something other than just Nintendo's SDK.

Nintendo's logic is:
homebrew = piracy

Even if you only make your own creations and stuff, to them it's piracy.

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wfEngine? ive never found the project, i think its private

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there is no legal basis btw

trollcrab

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Uh, esta pantalla nunca me salio con homebrew mio

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que raro

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Algo de más lógica hay de Switch en Lime o algo asi porque nunca lo vi Con Vupx Engine

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parece que lime tiene algo de conexion con switch en su codigo

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Probablemente algo en relación a los controles o algo así

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que raro

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do i need linux to compile this

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para compilar a la switch usando lime (de manera oficial) necesitas el sdk, no tendria sentido que dejen algo de ese codigo desparramado en los servicios del input

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Osea conozco la pantalla esa, me pide que conecte mando, pero con Vupx Engine pues, no salia eso, le valía verga a la Switch si había un solo joycon o los dos

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Se, en teoría ni deberían poder

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shhh

somos ciegos

aca nunca paso nada

no preguntes solo gozalo :v

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Hmm, I'm not sure.
I don't think so, because I see that everything is compiled with DevKitPro stuff that is also available for Windows, and the libraries are basically the same as those in Vupx Engine.
But I think it would be better to do it on Linux, but as I said, I dont know

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Exacto XD

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algun dia me dare una vuelta por el codigo de lime de nuevo para ver que fue

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El de mi fork por el momento es medio un desastre

Pero bueno fue de prueba y error prueba y error prueba y error

Ahora necesito ordenar todo y documentar un poco mis cambios ... De los que recuerdo

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nice

voy a preguntarle a papi gpt si podria ser algo con sdl:v

razonable

ahora me siento sucio por usar ia

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There it is
https://github.com/Slushi-Github/lime-nx/releases/tag/FirstRealBuild

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Nah SDL no controla eso por defecto, menos en mi caso que ni siquiera inicio eso, yo no uso SDL para los controles en mis proyectos

Uso el SDK directo xd

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increible

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damn, que yo sepa los inputs de lime usan los inputs de sdl

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Se, allí si

Tons... No se realmente que hace que eso haya aparecido

Pero hey, mejor xD

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una carta anonima a las oficinas de nintendo japon con un texto diciendo fuck you y un usb con el video :v

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Debería aparecer por defecto en juegos y eso y, ya básicamente ya esta implementado, yo ni se como se hace para aparecer eso

Aunque eso si que el SDL usado en Lime es el de para la Switch directo de DevKitPro, no el de Lime propio

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respuesta corta: un mago lo hizo

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Mañana me llega un correo de Cese y desista-

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un abogado te toca la puerta

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Nah no estoy haciendo nada en contra de Nintendo ni usando nada de ellos xD

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"porque al ejecutar homebrew se llama una funcion del sistema de la switch?"
"no se, lime lo hace automaticamente"

hechale la culpa a lime :v

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A menos que los de libnx la hayan cagado como hicieron los de libogc

Pero mientras no, todo perfecto todo bonito

A disfrutar xD
Bueno aun no hasta que perfeccione el tema de compilación

Necesito automatizar eso

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yo y los que usamos codigo con derechos de autor

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Eh, yo admito que use bastante IA en esto de Lime
Pero mayormente como de tipo automatización o algo así, para obtener los códigos de los crasheos de los logs de Atmosphere y modificar el Build.xml de Lime

De resto no es como la IA tampoco pudiera ayudarme tanto xD

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no se, no creo que sea algo malo en usar ia como ayuda al modificar un proyecto hecho por profesionales - estudiados en programacion

yo solo la uso para automatizar procesos repetitivos

y buscar informacion que no encuentro

pero igual siento feo

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Prefiero mejor hacer más vibe-coding antes que ver o generar un video de estos con IA

Pero bueh, opiniones y puntos de vista distintos xd