🍐 Jonk Stuff

[tall patio]

achuchasino

[small vigil]

ya la próxima w

[tall patio]

GG

[tall patio]

learning rust - day 1 (ignore the spanish, i wanna add some comments that i can understand easily)

[tall patio]

rust, why.

like, i understand the String::with_capacity

but not the normal_string.chars().nth.....

oh fuck you

nah i already did it

challenge done

[tall patio]

usefull info

i hate this

20 / 100, im not doing the 100 challenges

[tall patio]

i have one question, why you can use flxsubstate as an flxstate

[tall patio]

yepe

[tall patio]

im really bored

[tall patio]

task manager done

[tall patio]

basic game

[tall patio]

making a quick calculator in rust

[tall patio]

ohyes

AFTER 2 MONTHS NEW PB

YAAY

wait

no

it was just 1 month

[small vigil]

Bebos mira

@tall patio que
Opians

También hice shakes

uuuu te voy a robar el hilo

[tall patio]

1. que shake mas clean
2. la barra de vida tambien es muy clean

[small vigil]

y eso que quería usar leros

Lerps

Pero se me iba mucho sldks

[tall patio]

para el shake o la barra

[small vigil]

Y si, es muy clean porque va a 60 FPS el procesado

[small vigil]

Ambos

Pero me enfrente el problema con los flotantes y pixel perfects

[tall patio]

para el shake podria quedar bien, para la barra no creo, le quita el estilo undertale

[small vigil]

Y entonces tendría que hacerlo muy fijado

de que

si es 0.1 usar directamente 0

Para evitar esos decimales

[tall patio]

ohno

eso si esta feo

[small vigil]

Y usar pixel perfects render no es buena idea

Porque queda feo

Ya que cosas como el jugador / NPCs si se pretende que sea imperfecto

en temas de posición

Aunque estoy usando haxe, puedo perfectamente meter una Lib extra

[tall patio]

asi esta bien tonces

mientras no rompas el juego completo

[small vigil]

No sé al usar Haxe siempre y cuando una Lib sea puro código nativo en haxe y que no use cosas externas (EJ. Librerías de utilidades matemáticas) podría implementarlas

Iré a revisar a HaxeLib si hay algo que resuelva mi problema de textels vs pixel texture

@tall patio PENSANDO DE UNA MANERA

TEÓRICAMENTE PUEDO USAR HSCRIPT

o rulescript

ya que están escritas en haxe

[tall patio]

mientras reflaxe no explote si

[small vigil]

Puedo usarlas

[small vigil]

no explota

[tall patio]

gozu

[small vigil]

osea quizá RuleScript de problemas

Pero Hscript no

Preguntaré por si las dudas

[tall patio]

si usas rulescript de la misma manera que lo harias con hscript no creo

si usas las clases

ahi si creo que podria haber unos cuantos problemas

[small vigil]

Depende, que tanto usa RuleScript?

[tall patio]

macros

macros

y mas macros

rust is slowly becoming on one of my favorites languages

same speed as cpp

less headaches

[small vigil]

Las macros no sirven

[tall patio]

ohno

[small vigil]

Osea uso una

Pero es de que

lee archivos

Y los pone en Asstes y los pone en strings

Para tener algo similar a Godot

Pero es macro no de run time

[tall patio]

osea, como, lee archivos y vuelves sus rutas a strings?

[small vigil]

sino de que

la hace una vez

[small vigil]

Aja

Luego evolucionará a poder buscar carpetas

Pero luego

™

[tall patio]

tm

[small vigil]

Aunque teóricamente se podría

for (f in Reflect.fields(Assets))
if (f.startsWith("shit/")
trace(f)

[tall patio]

puede que si funcione, rulescript por lo que tengo entendido modifica las clases que van a ser scripteadas para que se ejecuten sus funciones a la version del script

[small vigil]

pero claro es lento

[tall patio]

reflect.fields es lentisimo como la chucha

pero aveces no hay otras alternativas 😔

[small vigil]

Pero las modifica antes de compilarlas?

[small vigil]

Pues bueno hay filter

array.filter(f -> f.startsWith("shit/"))

[tall patio]

si, podria decirse

[small vigil]

Entonces podría funcionar

La cosa es Godot

Godot no es tan flexible con sus clases

[tall patio]

godot dios, fue divertido el dia que lo use

[tall patio]

tru

[small vigil]

Osea

Es bueno con sus clases

Pero no permite hacerlas tan dinámicas

de que, si cambias algo durante el runtime

Tienes que recompilar el bytecode

o darle a reiniciar el juego

Es la misma

[tall patio]

ah chucha

aunque la macro de rulescript por lo que lei del codigo crea el interp en la clase misma al modificarla, por lo que lee el codigo cada que creas la clase, haciendo que en teoria deberia ser dinamico para todas las clases

porque lo unico que cambia de la clase original es el uso de el interp para hacerle override

[small vigil]

osea puede llegar a funcionar

La cosa es que funcionaria limitado

Y a este punto es mejor usar Reflaxe como scripting

Piénsalo

Mete haxe y lo básico junto Reflaxe

Hazlo un ejecutable

Y solo haz tipo comsndo

compile_hx()

y te lea scripts

Y te los convierta a gdscript

Y ahí directamente los entiende godot

Hay alternativas más sencillas de scripting

Una de ellas es Lua

[tall patio]

si lo mejor seria usar lua o hscript puro

[small vigil]

El tema con hscript puro

Es que

Pensandolo de manera coherente

Es mejor hacer un fork de GDSCRIPT de Reflaxe

Y poder hacer un ejecutable CLI

Y que venga como utilidad en el gosot

Y de que

./convert_haxe_to_gdscript path/to/src/

[tall patio]

hscript deberia funcionar si lo vuelves a gdscript o no, osea, no cambia nada en la logica, es un interprete promedio que facilmente podrias hacer hasta en cobol

[small vigil]

No estoy diciendo que no

Pero estarías haciendo tercera capa

Sería

Hscript -> Haxe -> GDScript

Haciendo posiblemente algo más lento

[tall patio]

a eso si

[small vigil]

que simplemente Haxe -> GDscript

Por eso usar Reflaxe sería una opción válida

Ó

Usar el Lua nativo de la comunidad de godot

Ó hacer Haxr

Haxe*

No sé cómo funcione el language server de godot

[tall patio]

usa lua

son bindings de luajit para godot

velocidad casi instantanea

[small vigil]

Mhm

Quisiera usar binding de haxe

pero

No sé si existe jit de hace

[tall patio]

so.. rust is not the ideal environment to develop games

i guess its time

to learn deep c

and c++

...

[tall patio]

4 months ago i created this chat to post my progress in sdl2 using haxe, 4 months, eh, i really learned a lot in 4 months, i want to learn how can i make physics systems on my own, using opengl, to learn c++ along the way

[tall patio]

wait a minute

hold on

hold on

[tall patio]

yepe

[tall patio]

inheritance in cpp is so painful

yeppers

im not developing games in this

1. opengl using haxe
2. sdl using CPP
3. opengl using cpp
4. sdl using haxe
5. Any other engine

thats my list of the most painful ways to make a game

so im not using sdl in cpp

i will only use cpp for opengl and other stuff

[tall patio]

another interpreter yaaay

its python time

the best to do a language like this is using a parser like jeremy did in loreline

no more hscript type parsers 😔

[tall patio]

93.47%

9 MISSES

OMG

[small vigil]

@tall patio conoces latino?

[tall patio]

q

no

[small vigil]

Es un lenguaje de programación bien raro en español

MDC, y yo intentamos hacer un nuevo interprete, no quisimos

[tall patio]

por lo que veo es lua en español

[small vigil]

masomenos

[tall patio]

sep

es un lua en español

por lo que veo es una vm stack based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow5XgHDkPOQ&list=RDow5XgHDkPOQ&start_radio=1 this is music

absolute peak

[tall patio]

can someone pls explain to me WHY MY ZIGZAGOON HAS A ULTRA BALL

[violet sleet]

it's waiting for you to turn your back

[tall patio]

D:

[tall patio]

WOBBUFFET IS THE FUCKING GOAT

[small vigil]

que

[tall patio]

HE JUST KILLED A ENTIRE POKEMON GYM

ALONE

[tall patio]

help, i dont know what to doooo

[tall patio]

idk what im doing

[tall patio]

what structure should i give to this

its fine i guess?

[topaz ledge]

I'd recommend having a base Component class/interface

[tall patio]

oh, i hadnt thought in that about bc im sleepy

and this is working yaaay

thanks for the recomendation!

im using lime signals

omg

it can move now

i love lime opengl context fr

i like the engine structure, its more understandable and easier to work with than the original pear version that i made using hxglad and hxsdl, although its still a bit far from what i managed to do with that pear version, but the progress i made tonight isnt bad.

wow 2 months

the fact that both versions are so different says a lot about how ive changed my programming style in these 2 months

[tall patio]

ill be working in textures until i fall sleep

[topaz ledge]

Lol go to bed

[tall patio]

im in my bed

[topaz ledge]

Then how are you programming

[tall patio]

laptop

[topaz ledge]

Oh

You should let your brain rest

And remove all stimulations before sleeping

[tall patio]

yeah youre right

byebye

[topaz ledge]

💤

[tall patio]

buenos dias gentita linda

[topaz ledge]

How long did you sleep

[tall patio]

6 hours

[topaz ledge]

That's little

[tall patio]

yep

[tall patio]

i hate textures

fuck it, im working on the input manager

[tall patio]

i have input and mouse working

[tall patio]

OMFG

800K POINTS

1000 NOTES

5 MISSES

94% ACCURACY

2 months of diference wow

[tall patio]

i still dont know why this wasnt working in this morning

[tall patio]

SpriteComponent yaay

[dreamy sphinx]

how do i render a png in lime

[tall patio]

what context are you using

[dreamy sphinx]

webgl/opengl stuff

[agile steppe]

Jonk Stuff (Pear - A OpenGL Lime engine)

[tall patio]

load an image using Image, create your basic shader to load textures, create your buffer, create an opengl texture, add the image data to the texture (do this only once, you dont want an overflow in ram), create your basic vertex buffer, draw everything, done

this is how i do it, the code in the red circle is the drawing logic

[magic vault]

There is a sample which demos it I think

[ashen urchin]

BORINGNGGGGGGG

[dreamy sphinx]

[ashen urchin]

Bindless textures are better

[tall patio]

yep

[tall patio]

👍

[magic vault]

lime create

Simple image

[dreamy sphinx]

lime create fart

/j

[tall patio]

im making pear so that it is as compatible as possible with all possible targets and computers

[ashen urchin]

Try your best though it's rather scarce so I'd recommend watching this video on that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTfdBSjitd8

[dreamy sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-gerson-ralsei-chapter-4-spoilers-gif-18371071203369076594

[ashen urchin]

And fall back if your opengl driver version does not support the bindless texture extension

[dreamy sphinx]

me with openfl

[tall patio]

openfl god

[tall patio]

i dont like fallbacks, they are a lot, a lot of work, something i wont do for a small project that uses opengl like this one

[ashen urchin]

Whatever

[tall patio]

also, i dont think youre going to use that many textures in a single scene in a 2d game that are displayed on the screen, if you do youre crazy

[ashen urchin]

It's worth the 7x rendering speed improvement though

Also

Sparrow atlas characters

[tall patio]

i dont know, ive never had that amout of lag or such a long loading time using sparrow atlas

[magic vault]

yeah

the lag when funkin view start I've never really seen anywhere 😅

[tall patio]

yeah

[ashen urchin]

Because it's preloading every buffer and program

And it's important for fast load times

[magic vault]

the irony that it slows the first load time

I suspect the bottleneck is currently where it converts the textures to premultiplied alpha

[ashen urchin]

Cuz openfl/flixel uses premultiplied alpha

[magic vault]

that is mega fast, as it loading a texture

so something else is going on I think

[tall patio]

i dont know, if flixel and openfl use that and you say that it preloads all the buffers and programs then something is happening, i dont think loading buffers and programs are that expensive, and if so you should optimize it urgently because that doesnt happen by creating a normal opengl program, it would be a problem with peote view or something wrong in the game code

[magic vault]

yeah it's not an issue in other apps

[magic vault]

apparently funkin is going through each pixel of each texture on load

if I understand correctly

[tall patio]

ralsei html5 is real yaay

[dreamy sphinx]

oh i think i should make my own 2d framework in openfl

i wonder how drawquads works

[tall patio]

i recommend it, using openfl is not as complex as using opengl and it is very fun, plus in the process you learn techniques that could be useful to you in a future project

[ashen urchin]

But idk what's making the first load of a buffer and program slow as fuck

That's initially why I made this buffer and program shit in the first place

Cuz if you have so many it's gonna eventually take a tenth of even a second to load all of it

Cuz each one is roughly 20ms

20ms for each buffer and program load

[magic vault]

actuall nevermind, filling this chat with unrelated crap

[tall patio]

are you referring to the loading of the first shader? i dont know why its so slow either. its something i noticed when i was doing the first version of pear. itss always like that, even in the most basic opengl project

[tall patio]

it is better than being inactive :v

[tall patio]

why the game is not well positioned

with what pear currently have, you should be able to make a basic game. ill be posting progress on github

[magic vault]

fun fact, the first little game engine I put together with peote view was named pear

it was terrible

[tall patio]

xd

https://github.com/WebosSan/Pear---more-fruity-than-ever

i really feel comfortable with how the project is looking, and im surprised that i did half of it while i was sleepy at 12 at night. i relook look at the code later. maybe i did something wrong at that time

[dreamy sphinx]

how did you get the motivation to do this lol

sometimes i just feel like doing something else

[tall patio]

i was sleepy

and i was bored

[dreamy sphinx]

me sleepy = me not doin anything

[tall patio]

this is where it all began

i would have continued coding if aaxe hadnt appeared and told me to go to sleep

[dreamy sphinx]

can i make a pull request that deletes export and adds a gitignore :3

[tall patio]

no problem

i still dont know why my git keeps ignoring gitignore

xd

[dreamy sphinx]

oh 💣

maybe merging the pr i have could solve this?

[tall patio]

tbh i dont know how to use git and github, this year was the first time i used it

[dreamy sphinx]

pr is up now

[tall patio]

yipiee

[dreamy sphinx]

:3

[tall patio]

thanks!

[dreamy sphinx]

np

[tall patio]

and now, whats next, what should i do?

[dreamy sphinx]

animations

[tall patio]

how should i implement animations? i mean, i already have the base, my renderer allows me to draw only some parts of the texture, what is the structure that i should use?

everything in pear is based on components, like gears, how should i implement the sparrow atlas, spritesheets, etc, etc

AnimationComponent -> Texture -> Frame Width, height (for spritesheets)
-> loadAtlas -> Sparrow Atlas, etc, etc
-> addAnimation
-> addAnimationByIndices
-> playAnimation

thats fine i guess

oh and addAnimationByPrefix ofc

[tall patio]

omg i have a functional system

[dreamy sphinx]

show

[tall patio]

the base is already done, now i just need to create the frames based on the sparrow atlas and its ready, oh and addByPrefix

hold on hold on

[tall patio]

this is weird

its was working

IM A FUCKING IDIOT

ok, it works now

i just need to apply the rotations to the animation in base of the current frame

and its done

[tall patio]

boyfriend from fnf is real

[small vigil]

obs is a liar

[tall patio]

wha?

[tall patio]

oh

im really happy with how is this going

like, you can really make a game using this

and you shouldnt have any problems

https://github.com/WebosSan/Pear---more-fruity-than-ever/tree/main new commit

you can now use animations

[tall patio]

omg i fell sleep

so what now

eerhm

sounds i guess

oh no

this will be hard

i hate html5

[solar ether]

Imo web audio is a much nicer api

[tall patio]

yeah, but i dont like developing 2 systems at the same time

[solar ether]

Fair

[tall patio]

xd

tbh its my first time working with web audio api so xd

LOL

the sound is broken

and html5 isnt working

....

ill be reading the lime api

im a fucking idiot

done

it should be working

how much time wasted

why do i always have to complicate things for myself? xd

you can now change between 2 display types

letterbox and default

letterbox: keep aspect ratio

default: default

so...

what now

[tall patio]

should i publish pear as a haxelib?

[small vigil]

Yeah but make it first stable

[tall patio]

k

when I finish this i will try to make an emulator in haxe using lime, i will try

[small vigil]

me está robando la idea

...

[tall patio]

q

[small vigil]

Dije hace tiempo que quería hacer emular

[tall patio]

a

[tall patio]

https://lib.haxe.org/p/pearengine/

lol

[tall patio]

oh my god, now its time for me to learn how to handle register-based bytecode

its necessary to make my atari 2600 emulator 😔

you know what? im not going to make an assembly code interpreter, id rather do nothing.

im not that persistent with my projects

[agile steppe]

🍐 Jonk Stuff (Pear - A OpenGL Lime engine)

[tall patio]

im making doodle jump in pear engine

the aqua box is the collider

:3

[tall patio]

master ball

[tall patio]

im never doing a brick furnace again

[tall patio]

guy i have basic gameplay

[tall patio]

I CANT BELIEVE I JUST SPENT 2 HOURS GETTING EXP FOR MY MAGIKARP

finally

[tall patio]

you can now use entities as scenes

[tall patio]

im testing some things

idk if it will work

rip pc

maybe

idk

im rendering 10000 rectangles

[tall patio]

it works?

maybe? idk

OK YEAH IT WORKS

FROM 30% CPU USAGE TO 10%

WOW

[tall patio]

did i just spent 2 hours reading "how to optimize draw call" posts in reddit?

[tall patio]

ah shit

here we go again

[tall patio]

i have a question, how many rectangles i should be able to renderer before flushing the renderer

100?

1000?

[tall patio]

i hate wegbl

webgl

rect batch

FINALLY

done

omfg

you know what?

im moving to webgl2

it will be a headache, but at least ill be able to use "modern" opengl features

[tall patio]

from 20% of cpu usage with webgl is now 15% with opengles3

and it works in html5

yaaay

https://github.com/WebosSan/Pear---more-fruity-than-ever

yaaay

• Removed Renderer
• Added ExperimentalRenderer
• Removed SpriteBatch
• Added a REAL RectBatch
• Using OpenGL and WebGL2

[tall patio]

i wanna do something

very interesting

:·

[tall patio]

now i am forced to learn how to manage registers

[tall patio]

oh, it wasnt that hard

[tall patio]

i hate parsers

[tall patio]

i cant believe im still using hxluascript compiler at this point

💀

[tall patio]

yipi

[tall patio]

oh no

i need to make a system that reuses registers smartly

aaah

well, i have one but it only works when you are using constants

it cant handle locals

uuugh

[small vigil]

@tall patio al final aprendí algo de AST para mí propio sistema de diálogos sldns

[tall patio]

increible!! vas a hacer un interprete o solo vas a compilar el ast a otro formato

como hace srd

[small vigil]

no sé tengo un sistema raro

debería funcionar con enums

[tall patio]

los enums en haxe son tu mejor apuesta para hacer ast

cuando me mude de typescript a haxe en cuanto a lenguajes intente usar objetos

nunca mas lo hago en mi vida

[tall patio]

i dont know what i just did

but its working

im not using strings for variables

like

IM NOT STORING VARIABLES AT ALL

LOOL

nah this shit is fast asf

register vs stack

but the compiler is so confusing

fr

i need to place comments

im not using stack based vms

in MY LIFE AGAIN

the last challenge will be making a chip 8 emulator but now i need to learn the basics of registers

and learn some optimizations when using registers

like

now im using 256 registers

but chip 8 only can use 16

and with my system im using 6 registers doing this

let aea = 2
let bea = aea * 2
bea
let cea = 2 + aea * bea
cea
return cea

[tall patio]

i dont have any idea on how i can recicle the registers

tbh

and to make scopes

[tall patio]

i cant use reflaxe gscript 😔

[small vigil]

Por?

[tall patio]

vscode explota

[small vigil]

Po???

[tall patio]

exceso de clases

[small vigil]

Pero si son pocas 😭

Osea juntando lime, OpenFL y Flixel juntos son casi lo mismo

Y contigo ha funcionado, cierto?

[small vigil]

¿?

[tall patio]

ademas que reflaxe usa pura macros

[small vigil]

Pos que PC tienes para que se te muera

[tall patio]

una laptop de hace 12 años

[small vigil]

A gracias w

Dime procesador pe

[small vigil]

eh no sé, la cpu no está mala

Por qué te va mal?

[tall patio]

creo que es porque nunca use un proyecto con 1731 clases y que se basara completamente en las macros

[tall patio]

im tired of making parsers

im just modifying hscript

[tall patio]

nvm

[tall patio]

im doing some leecode problems

aaand

i dont know how to code

😔

[tall patio]

i realized that the more time passes, coding is becoming boring for me, that, i don't know why, makes me sad

[tall patio]

im sleepy

this will be my last project and then i will take a long break

this time is real

[tall patio]

this is probably the most serious interpreter that ive ever made

hmm

[tall patio]

strings

[tall patio]

its time to make the compiler

[agile steppe]

🍐 Jonk Stuff

[tall patio]

omfg this is so boring

[lone marlin]

What does the language look like

[tall patio]

its just hscript

but with a register based vm

thats all

[lone marlin]

I see

[tall patio]

the error logs are killing a lot of performance

😭

[tall patio]

you know what?

im done

[tall patio]

i cant replicate this 💔

including the error logs

is worthy to stay the the ⭐ pretty ⭐ logs?

[small vigil]

No

buuut it's an extra

[tall patio]

ifuckinghatethecompilationtime

theinterpreterisfastasfuck

thefuckinglogsarekillingeverything

AAAH

[tall patio]

struct User {
    private let _name = ""
    private let _password = ""
    private let _status = "offline"

    func constructor(name, password) {
        if password.length < 8 {
            throw "Password must have at least 8 characters"
        }

        self._name = name
        self._password = password
    }

    func login() {
        self._status = "online"
        print(self._name + " has logged in.")
    }

    func logout() {
        self._status = "offline"
        print(self._name + " has logged out.")
    }

    func isOnline() {
        return self._status == "online"
    }

    func info() {
        print("User: " + self._name + " | Status: " + self._status)
    }
}

let user = User("JonkIsKindaCool", "SuperSecret123")

user.login()
user.info()

user.setName("Webos")
user.info()

user.logout()

[tall patio]

i need some opinions

this is fine?

and fuck hscript x

im making my own shit

[tall patio]

string interpolation is done

[tall patio]

if statements are working

while loops are working

how can i implement custom iterators

hmmm

[dreamy sphinx]

where do i learn this :keoiki

[tall patio]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_2VhOvlMk4UHGqYCLWc6GO8FaPl8fQTh

the guy voice is relaxing

and he explains everything in a way that anyone can understand it

[tall patio]

im just using structs

like

struct Counter{
  private let max = null;
  private let current = 0;

  func constructor(max){
    self.max = max;
  }

  func next(){
    //Iterator end == null
    if (current <= max) return null;
    current += 1;
    return current
  }
}

[tall patio]

for loop done

its time to work on... structs

D:

like, the final test is this shit

its my first time working with that kinds of objects sooo

luck to me?

parser is working yaay

[tall patio]

oh

i think its working

oh wait no nvm

idk why but if i make a function in a struct and call it the program just goes to an infinite loop

ill fix it tomorrow

[tall patio]

i hate string interpolation :3

[tall patio]

it works

yaaay

[tall patio]

adding bytecode

[tall patio]

did i just created the most slower bytecode interpreter?

LOL

this is so fucking funny

[tall patio]

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im too lazy to make a registervm

its a lot of work for a project that im making for fun

😭

the most fastest thing would be making a stack based vm

but the amount of pop and push that i do make the program to go even slower than a normal interpreter

you know why not

im making the stack based

again...

with a direct threaded vm

well, kinda

idk if that is possible in haxe

ill be using maps?

idk

no, maybe arrays

my instructions are just ints

so i can just do

instructionHandlerinstruction

[tall patio]

nvm

that idea is slow

[ashen urchin]

No it isn't

The stack interpreter is literally doing better right now

[tall patio]

no, this is

when im not using the idea of the maps

and a register vm makes it even faster

thats why i dont like stack based

but im too lazy to make a register vm

[ashen urchin]

But at least the stack interpreter is faster though

You could use that

[tall patio]

yeah

but in the for loops is kinda slow

[ashen urchin]

It's okay cuz the total result is literally 10ms faster

[tall patio]

0.010ms*

[ashen urchin]

Oh

Well

[tall patio]

xd

[ashen urchin]

Yeah, I gotta say, average it out for more accurate results

Unless you're on a cpu with varying frequency like mine that is base 1.7ghz and turbo boost 3.5ghz

So yeah

[tall patio]

i was going to do it but the test script is a bit heavy and i dont want to wait 3 minutes for 10,000 results to be made and take an average.

[ashen urchin]

I've just had the best fucking day in my life as of right now

[ashen urchin]

So do 1000 results

That's what

[tall patio]

the result is the same as making one

[tall patio]

and this is the final boss

its working on the normal interpreter

ast walker interpreter

[tall patio]

i just discovered i can use private inside a function

[tall patio]

wtf im seeing

[tall patio]

what a shitty day omfg

[tall patio]

https://tenor.com/view/cachorro-carabajal-perrito-gritando-carabajal-perrito-carabajal-gif-17378946896690127089

a good lunch can make every day better

😋

[tall patio]

its baaack

[ashen urchin]

Cool

Run it again

[tall patio]

what

omfg this was the worst day

of the year

[ashen urchin]

Why is it

[tall patio]

a lot of bad news

working on some language features would relieve my stress, maybe while loops. i think i forgot to make objects

[tall patio]

i guess its working

its not the fastest implementation

but it works

i guess im implementing creation of classes instances from haxe

you know, for using it in modding

[ashen urchin]

That's literally faster than what you have

[tall patio]

?

are you talking about the function calls or the creation of objects

haxe classes are working yaay

[ashen urchin]

Idk what you showed on that screenshot

[tall patio]

print function

well, function calss

calls

[ashen urchin]

Oh

Well

Regular haxe traces slow down the stuff like a lot

Prints will always slow anything down

It's natural

[tall patio]

i know that

[ashen urchin]

It's the command prompt

[tall patio]

sending things to the terminal output is really slow

functions calls with parents works perfectly

[ashen urchin]

The new stack implementation is slower as opposed to this

[tall patio]

?

[ashen urchin]

Old version was From 0.19ms to 0.03ms and new version from 0.42ms to 0.15ms

[tall patio]

what old version

[ashen urchin]

Here

[tall patio]

oh

[ashen urchin]

That's literally what I showed you

[tall patio]

its because im using type.createinstance

the example with the function to haxe classes

reflect and type are kinda slow

buti its the only choice that i have for now

[ashen urchin]

So what did the old version use

[tall patio]

its just a function call

[ashen urchin]

What function call

[tall patio]

print

[ashen urchin]

Oh

What does the print function code look like from said old version

[tall patio]

bro i didnt change the print function

im just adding features

im not changing anything

[ashen urchin]

Ok

[tall patio]

it works in js yaaay

i dont wanna redo the struct system

🥺

but i wanna see the stack time

1ms for the structs

wow

thats slow

im highlighting this

yipie

snippets are functionals

[tall patio]

i have a cellphone

yaaay

[small vigil]

rreally???

add me at whatsapp

wasap

[tall patio]

pasa num p

[tall patio]

idk what im trying to do

im testing some ways to make blocks

[tall patio]

wtf it works

holymoly

holy shit its really working

i just did

the easiest way to make blocks

another thing that i will always do ✅

[small vigil]

!

[tall patio]

kicosa

[small vigil]

Shhhshh

[tall patio]

que es "Shhhshh"

[small vigil]

no sé

undefined diría los js papus

[tall patio]

borre nodejs hace una semana y mi vida es mas feliz

🔥

[small vigil]

Instala bun y vuelves a la felicidad

[tall patio]

deno*

[small vigil]

deno tiene su prop intérprete

Bun

[tall patio]

deno*

[small vigil]

También pero

no se de deno

Lo usé una vez

[tall patio]

yo cuando al fin puedo hacer juegos en opengl usando javascript

vida buena

por eso odio los stack interpreters....

su tiempo de ejecucion es muy variado

vrg

lopuseenespañolporinstinto

nvm

i hate the stack interpreters

😔

they execution time is so random

specially if you are doing big loops

oh shit i was doing functions

fr this is easy

things to do:

• If Statements
• Assigment operations
• Structs....

and with that the stack interpreter is done

[tall patio]

igotbored

ill be saying goodbye to haxe for a while

ill be retaking cpp

bye

[tall patio]

i like c++

[tall patio]

quick lexer

quick flappy bird

[idk how to use cmake 💔 ]

[tall patio]

i hate cpp logs

omg i have a basic parser

im learning how to use cmake

[tall patio]

i think i understant how cmake works

[tall patio]

another day without using haxe 💔

cmake error

💔

bro wth 💔

why the build directory in cmakecache is different than the current directory where te project is

[tall patio]

bro wtf 💔

why i cant use sdl-image

[dreamy sphinx]

💔 🥀

[tall patio]

bro what

😔

[dreamy sphinx]

oh

what is so bad about sdl image

[tall patio]

idk, unreadable cmake error

im just using stb_image and uploading everything to the texture

😄

:D

yay finally

[tall patio]

gooood is good

gooooooooood is great

[tall patio]

trying 3d in lime

[tall patio]

ah shit, here we go again

[small vigil]

recomendaria cambiar lo snombres de las carpetas

[tall patio]

no tengo ideas 😔

and i forgot how messy is setting up opengl

anyway

i wanna test with bits manipulation

[tall patio]

day one using peote view: i think i know how can i make spritesheets animations

hold on

[ashen urchin]

Awesome

Sparrow atlas? If so, I'd steal

Because I want a sparrow atlas that's a whole buffer and program like I did intentionally for ordering

[tall patio]

what

(sorry, today its my first time using peoteview)

[ashen urchin]

What do youu mean "spritesheets animations"?

Do you mean sparrow atlas? Cuz I have an example of it right here

[tall patio]

this is a spritesheet animation bro.

its just a image

with a bunch of frames

[ashen urchin]

Oh

Thought you'd be able to do sparrow atlas

[tall patio]

its the same logic

except that with a sparrow atlas you have to read the file and archive the frames

[tall patio]

really nice experience tbh

i learned a lot about peote view this two hours

and i made my first optimization

lets goo

semmi approvement really made me happy xd

[ashen urchin]

Awesome

What'd you code in peote-view?

[small vigil]

ohhh

how it looks can niz see it?

(Image, not code)

can i

[tall patio]

wha-

srry i was sleeping

[tall patio]

a simple system that automatically set a element to a buffer-program

based on the texture

so all the elements that are using the same texture exists inside one buffer-program

as it should be

[tall patio]

idk how i could flip elements in peoteview

like

fliiping the texture coords that will be used in the buffer

that could be a solution

now the problem is how

how i can do it respecting peote view architecture

[small vigil]

usa la lógica de scala -1

[tall patio]

no aplica en opengl

sadad

[tall patio]

i dont in what format the elements send the data to the buffer

but if it works how i think

i think i can apply flipX

i have flipX

[small vigil]

Que hiciste

Pa hacerlo

[tall patio]

opengl necesita que le especifiques las coordenadas a motrar de la textura

solo voltee las coordenadas

[tall patio]

1 hour and 20 minutes playing mc

lol

[tall patio]

i have my first farm

[tall patio]

learning how to use nme

[tall patio]

nvm

[tall patio]

i wanted to use python as a scripting engine in haxe

but hxpy sucks (sorry vortex)

so im making a vm

lol

oh no

its says ident

and not indent

lol

[ashen urchin]

sigh

[tall patio]

hmmm

i think yields will be one of the last things that i will be making

[tall patio]

only 6 expressions

and the parser is done

xd

then i just need to make the compiler

and then a vm using frames chunks and that stuff

the most annoying part is almost done

[tall patio]

d o n e

making instructions...

yaaay

...

[tall patio]

XD

[tall patio]

icantsleep

[tall patio]

while loops yaay

and theyre faster than the hsscript ones?

wow

[tall patio]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/ephemeral-attachments/1312162719993958481/1435374693111824484/petpet.gif?ex=690bbc5a&is=690a6ada&hm=fccc3d01f6a80709e4e02185926010aeb775cfc930dbf3f0a5e48f9d59435034&

[small vigil]

@tall patio jonk

ya sé que hacer en el game engine

haré fork a flixel

[tall patio]

q game engine

[small vigil]

El que queria hacer

[tall patio]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[dreamy sphinx]

try messing with math stuff like (60 * (60 * (60 * (60 * (60) * (60)))))

[tall patio]

si aprendes lo basico de opengl puedes hacer uno funcional en menos de cinco horas

[tall patio]

wha

[dreamy sphinx]

idk

test this math stuff

[tall patio]

in the vm?

[dreamy sphinx]

✅

[tall patio]

okok

ill do it later

i have school rn

[dreamy sphinx]

oh ok

[tall patio]

stop pls

😭

[small vigil]

Quería usar flixel

Y rehacer muchos backends

[dreamy sphinx]

alright what gif is better

[tall patio]

og catowl

[dreamy sphinx]

wait i have a good one

[small vigil]

Y ya que eso lo que haría sería modificar el flujo de trabajo

[tall patio]

ohno

[dreamy sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/owl-cat-owlcat-pan-camera-gif-9072263397626883009

[small vigil]

por qué ohno

qué hay de malo sobs

[tall patio]

haxeflixel momento

mucho codiog

[tall patio]

good.

aunque optimizar haxeflixel si seria un golazo

cambiando todo en el camino

[small vigil]

i mean

primero modificaré lo esencial

Audio y Dibujado

Y meter todo como godot para temas de posiciones

porque genuinamente es muy intuitivos

[small vigil]

ponle que tenemos algo así como un nodo padre

class NodeTest extends FlxNode

Y eso tendría automáticamente posiciones de X, Y

entonces

Si rienes un FlxSprite

Tomaría las posiciones del padre

Y sus posiciones locales

de que

global_position = parent.position + this.position

Eso haría que se borre FlxSpriteGroup

Y FlxTypedSpriteGroup

Y

Hacer un batch de draws

osea no hacer millones de draws

solo las necesarias

Que opinas?

@tall patio

ah y meter motor de físicas modular

de FlxPhisics

FlxG.phisycs = new FlxPhisics

y ahí se saque todo el tema de cosas necesarias

osea que Flxsprite solo se encarga de cosas de dibujado

[tall patio]

lo de los batchs es buena idea

[small vigil]

no solo es buena idea es algo que no sé por qué no está

[tall patio]

y los nodos padre tmb

[tall patio]

es complicado

cada shader de opengl tiene un maximo de texturas usables

[small vigil]

Poeees sí pero es algo a favor de hacer atractiva la optimizacion

[small vigil]

y eso que quita del batch

[tall patio]

batch es ahorrar drawcalls

usando un solo buffer y programa

programa es igual a shader

y buffer donde se almacenan los datos

well, bye guys, im going to school

[small vigil]

baiiii

[tall patio]

helo

[small vigil]

Helo

so what do you think

[tall patio]

esta bien

nomas que tendrias que dejar de usar openfl o usar openfl de manera avanzada

porque

bueno, flixel tiene mucha dependencia a openfl

y la manera en la que dibuja cosas

es... peculiar

por decirlo de alguna manera

[small vigil]

Cómo que dejar de usarlo

o usarlo avanzado

gulp

[tall patio]

el renderizado en flixel es usando framebuffers

algo asi

copia los pixeles de los objetos a una camara

y creo que eso es mas caro que un drawcall comun

no c como optimizar esas cosas en openfl

por eso el dejar de usarlo

aunque de seguro hay maneras de hacer las cosas mejor

no uso openfl de manera avanzada hace como tres año

años

[small vigil]

pero

Mehh

Nda que leer la guía y doc ayude

[tall patio]

ea

[sweet ore]

[tall patio]

ayayay

👀

papa lendo que hara en este chat mas muerto

meVoid

[tall patio]

omg

what a shitty night

i woke up with a fever, the flu, and im hoarse, my hands are shaking, wtf

[tall patio]

ah

i woke up with the idea