Ludum Dare 56 Collab | Haxe | Page 4

ruby grove Oct 5, 2024, 6:47 PM

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canned?

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 6:47 PM

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I cant organize and do everything

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especially when Im organizing no one lol

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people are more inclined to criticize than actually do anything

crisp jackal Oct 5, 2024, 6:47 PM

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From what I understand, what needs to be done:

provide a pool of dialogs for each tribe
design puzzles -> probably the easiest to delegate, somehow similar to the minigame idea we had before, good reference here would be undertale-battle-style puzzles/minigames maybe?

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 6:48 PM

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From a front end, we need to build out the dialog ux and the tilemap

ruby grove Oct 5, 2024, 6:48 PM

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is the player like supposed to ever control the game or what?

weak fern Oct 5, 2024, 6:48 PM

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METALPIPE

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What did i miss

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 6:48 PM

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I generate perlin noise to create a random overworld map data

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2048x2048 tiles

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16x16

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we can scale it down if its too big

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sword built most of the camera

ruby grove Oct 5, 2024, 6:50 PM

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pure ruin I generate perlin noise to create a random overworld map data

ok one question, what is the player supposed to do? why isnt there player movement

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 6:50 PM

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Kayla is finishing the tilesets now she should be done in an hour or 2

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we have about 30 tiny creature sprites

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 6:51 PM

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ruby grove ok one question, what is the player supposed to do? why isnt there player moveme...

because you passively control an evolving tribe of tiny creatures with a growing population

ruby grove Oct 5, 2024, 6:51 PM

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oh-

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 6:51 PM

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i say people

ruby grove Oct 5, 2024, 6:51 PM

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uhhhh

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 6:51 PM

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tiny creatures™

ruby grove Oct 5, 2024, 6:53 PM

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so, is it fine if i help with the hud code and stuff

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 6:53 PM

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https://github.com/haxecollab/ludum-dare-56/issues/28

GitHub

HUD Development Need > Assigned Role: UI Designer · Issue #28 · hax...

HUD Development Overview Assigned Role: UI Designer Tasks: Design a HUD to show player progress, active quests, hints, and interactions. Detailed Breakdown: 1. Player Progress Display Resource Indi...

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have at it

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just ask any questions for clarification

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like sword did when he built the camera

ruby grove Oct 5, 2024, 6:55 PM

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okeh

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 6:55 PM

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These are generic rough plans

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that I created before the game jam

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with some tweaks for the idea

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the tribes health/energy can be a bar or a counter

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or however

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the quest panel is just for objectives that pop up and decisions waiting to be made by you

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they can queue

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hints are visual cues to help the player along(if any)

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some things are more important than others

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so if we dont finish it all its ok

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like player hints

ruby grove Oct 5, 2024, 7:00 PM

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oh i already have a concept for the health-bar in mind

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:00 PM

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@weak fern please i swear to god please skip roblox for today

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We need workers for the jam while i eep

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:01 PM

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Ok Anyway!

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Every minute I spend chatting is a minute I'm not doing what I'm supposed to, and its keeping me from sleep.

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I'm sorry I cant be more detailed and play organizer at this stage.

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please dont fault me for it.

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:03 PM

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Question

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Are the sprites animated or static?

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:03 PM

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static

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they just glide around facing the camera

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:04 PM

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Ah

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Okay

ruby grove Oct 5, 2024, 7:04 PM

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here it is (aint pixelated because concepts are concepts)

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may be bad

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:04 PM

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some things might get animated if we have time

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I think as soon as shes done working on the tileset she is going to try and work on the tilemap

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and start coding some frontend stuff

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:05 PM

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Also idea

ruby grove Oct 5, 2024, 7:05 PM

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ruby grove here it is (aint pixelated because concepts are concepts)

with outline https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1282493664068767825/1292200733927669801/image.png?ex=6702df36&is=67018db6&hm=9456a5bda0032820c72cc411085d2e052ffa72d8a1cb828c4ff54fbb408cb005&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

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which one do you guys prefer?

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:06 PM

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I was thinking we could do the game but without any sort of lore

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:06 PM

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what is the object of the game?

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:06 PM

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Dialogues, npcs or whatnot

ruby grove Oct 5, 2024, 7:06 PM

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ruby grove with outline https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1282493664068767825/...

is concept 1 or 2 better?

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:07 PM

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Might be too generic but we could have a set of maps that are randomly generated

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The overworld and mayhaps few bosses

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:07 PM

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what is the gameplay mechanic?

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right now the gameplay mechanic is the lore

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:08 PM

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ah

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:08 PM

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do you know what a MUD is?

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:08 PM

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No not really

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:08 PM

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its a text based game genre

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from a time when computers sucked

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and we couldnt really do much graphics

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the game works without any graphics at all

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just text and prompts and numbers and stuff

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this was the mashup

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from the start of the jam discussion

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I came up with this stuff based on that discussion

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:10 PM

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Huh really?

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You want to make a cli-game now?

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:10 PM

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no

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thats what it is

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we plug it into the front end

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:11 PM

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what ...

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:11 PM

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Ive explained about 5 times already

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think about a multiplayer game

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the logic doesnt happen with a GUI

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:12 PM

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well yeah

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:12 PM

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your client is just a thin client

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a front end

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all the logic on the server doesnt have graphical representation

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but it can still proceed without graphics

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thats what Ive been working on, the game backend

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:12 PM

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Oh

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:12 PM

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we just need to plug it into front end components

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that dont exist yet

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but the actual game backend is mostly complete

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ive wasted 3 hours talking about this and getting nothing done

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:14 PM

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not sure why this idea for a jam entry but i digress

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:14 PM

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what idea

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thats how games work

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well, at least in most development patterns

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:14 PM

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what

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:14 PM

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you isolate the logic from the UI

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:15 PM

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???

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Well thats... how it works

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:16 PM

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the actual game Idea creatively speaking was formed from the 4 hour discussion we had after the jam started.

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:16 PM

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enough talking, commit your stuff once its done

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:16 PM

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everyone had some very vague input

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:16 PM

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And ill directly understand from code

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:16 PM

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and no concrete ideas about mechanics or anything

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:17 PM

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Wait

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... you were basically working on backend

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:18 PM

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nobody wanted to participate in the planning stage

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this was the attitutde of everyone present

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at the start of the jam

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so dont fault me because people dont like the idea or the concept or anything like that

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I still have no heard of an alternative, except for @cold estuary 's which I just saw

ruby grove Oct 5, 2024, 7:19 PM

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which one

lavish carbon Oct 5, 2024, 7:20 PM

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Right

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:22 PM

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rife with negativity from the start

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this was 2 hours into the discussion

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so anyone that has some criticism about the direction of things needs to recalibrate

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because I think I have done really good despite it all

teal ravine Oct 5, 2024, 7:25 PM

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i was saying it was too late to win ld entirely, there are some fucking intense devs

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wasn't a knock against you or anyone specifically, i wouldn't be able to win myself lol

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:26 PM

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I wouldnt think we'd win

teal ravine Oct 5, 2024, 7:27 PM

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i have been avoiding sending any ideas bcs my goal was to just go with the flow and flesh stuff out near the end

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:27 PM

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I guess that was everyones idea too

teal ravine Oct 5, 2024, 7:27 PM

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i tried to counteract that by doing work prejam

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:27 PM

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I'm not faulting anyone, I am just defending my decisions

teal ravine Oct 5, 2024, 7:27 PM

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but i wasn't able to get all of what I wanted to get done bcs of you being out (not your fault ofc, don't blame you)

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 7:28 PM

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Im still commited to having a finished entry

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I gave everyone ample space to be part of the creative process, it just didnt materialize

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back to it

twilit hare Oct 5, 2024, 7:56 PM

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Graphics are almost complete

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I can work on the tilemap. We just need to do some of the other ui elements

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And then we can spend tomorrow refining the content and playtesting

tender carbon Oct 5, 2024, 8:06 PM

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twilit hare And then we can spend tomorrow refining the content and playtesting

Wait you are working on the game jam too?

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That's actually super cool: husband and wife working on a game jam together

crisp jackal Oct 5, 2024, 8:21 PM

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So... for the background music, should I make something quite peaceful that does blend nicely in the game?

teal ravine Oct 5, 2024, 8:22 PM

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yeah that works, i think it will be to our favor to have something to base visuals on

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i think for the "tiny creatures" aspect you kinda want it to feel "cutesy"

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interpret that as you wish

weak fern Oct 5, 2024, 8:33 PM

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lavish carbon <@985961886459777084> please i swear to god please skip roblox for today

I dont have a daily roblox ritual geez

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And i cant contribute much

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Busy for a few hours
No idea what to do

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 8:45 PM

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crisp jackal So... for the background music, should I make something quite peaceful that does...

aye

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would be great

crisp jackal Oct 5, 2024, 8:49 PM

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Sounds good, let’s see what i’ll come up with

pure ruin Oct 5, 2024, 9:04 PM

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Gonna take a quick 15 minute break to go stroll the bebe around the neighborhood and get some fresh air

twilit hare Oct 5, 2024, 9:34 PM

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Yea 🫢

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teal ravine Oct 5, 2024, 9:36 PM

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i should get a haxe shirt

twilit hare Oct 5, 2024, 9:36 PM

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👋

cold estuary Oct 5, 2024, 10:31 PM

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so how's things going

weak fern Oct 5, 2024, 10:35 PM

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No idea

teal ravine Oct 5, 2024, 10:59 PM

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waiting for chris to upload his progress

twilit hare Oct 5, 2024, 11:10 PM

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He fell asleep with his laptop sitting in the living room 🫢

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I'll wake him up in a few minutes. He's been working non stop

torpid rover Oct 5, 2024, 11:11 PM

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dang

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 12:06 AM

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I is awake

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 12:06 AM

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hi awake

weak fern Oct 6, 2024, 12:07 AM

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pure ruin I is awake

check again

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conciousness.remove();

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:39 AM

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perhaps i'll try to expand on what chris is working on if this the kind of concept and organization we gotta work on

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 3:42 AM

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weak fern 1. Busy for a few hours 2. No idea what to do

The entire todo file:

weak fern Oct 6, 2024, 3:42 AM

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lavish carbon The entire todo file:

idk whats taken and whats not

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 3:43 AM

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Like i think rn we only did tilemap stuff and camera

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HELL YES CHRIS DID PROGRESS

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Ngl though i feel like he was alone for the entire night

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... assets macro

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Im so confused

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@pure ruin weren't u done with the procedural generation data stuff?

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 3:51 AM

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Yeah Im putting everything together in the game now

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 3:51 AM

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... oh

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 3:51 AM

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go to bed lol

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 3:52 AM

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Was anyone available during my sleep?

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Or are you just solo

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:04 AM

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there is no longer a specific win condition just multiple endings based on how you play the game

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(some can be considered win and loss theoretically based on the players viewpoint I guess)

weak fern Oct 6, 2024, 4:05 AM

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i dont think i have anything left to contribute so i'll be silent until assigned a specific task (i have no idea who does what

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:06 AM

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Ok well you should be able to play the game here with limited ui soonish

weak fern Oct 6, 2024, 4:07 AM

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i'll take the role of "a playtester/ghost"

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:08 AM

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I'll be interested in anyones idea to hurry up and translate it to use our pretty graphics in the shortest amount of time

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we can make some concessions to how the game is expressed visually to cut time, if we need to

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we still have 42 hours

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plus an extra hour to submit it

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and we're allowed bug fixes after submitting

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 4:09 AM

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pure ruin we can make some concessions to how the game is expressed visually to cut time, ...

i can discuss visuals, but i won't be able to draw them

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:10 AM

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i mean, how to translate the game into how it should look

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with the graphics we have

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you'll see

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right now the game is all text

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and placeholders

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and text boxes and crap

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 4:11 AM

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perhaps we can take some inspiration from the ace attorney DS versions? well, the simple 'rounded box with color and text' inside it is what i'm referring to

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:13 AM

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I need to have this task completely done within the next hour or two and then everyone will have a better idea on how they can help get it to the finish

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will need all my flixel experts ❤️

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 4:14 AM

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regarding the inspiration thing, this is what my reference is:
https://youtu.be/7okb1lPD9MY?list=PLhq7N9JLM_oOpZxPPWOuvPCQt01MPuOV5&t=652

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it's simple enough, even a programmer can make these

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:15 AM

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OBJECTION!

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 4:17 AM

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pure ruin we still have 42 hours

Are you sure?

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The 7th is included entirely as well?

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:17 AM

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https://ldjam.com/

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 4:17 AM

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like rn its the 6th for me

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:17 AM

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lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 4:18 AM

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Compo?

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:18 AM

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compo is a harder part of the jam

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and you can only solo

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 4:18 AM

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Oh

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So we still have time

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:18 AM

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theres plenty of time

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 4:18 AM

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Alright good to know

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:18 AM

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basically 2 days left

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 4:18 AM

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We just need not to waste it

torpid rover Oct 6, 2024, 4:21 AM

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pure ruin

whats the diff of the compo and jam ending other than the time?

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is the jam time like the day you can submit?

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:21 AM

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the compo is harder

torpid rover Oct 6, 2024, 4:21 AM

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yikes

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:21 AM

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you are only allowed to solo

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and the guidlines are stricter

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about what kind of art you can use etc

torpid rover Oct 6, 2024, 4:21 AM

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so the compo is just a harder jam?

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:21 AM

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you have to make everything

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its a seperate category of the same jam

torpid rover Oct 6, 2024, 4:22 AM

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dang compos sound tough

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 4:23 AM

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torpid rover dang compos sound tough

it's why it's called the "Hard Mode"

torpid rover Oct 6, 2024, 4:23 AM

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north sage it's why it's called the "Hard Mode"

ngl i didnt check the LD website so i didnt know it was called a hard mode

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:25 AM

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almost done converting all the data and adding some new stuff

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everything used to be hardcoded

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now its all json

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which makes my head ache less

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 4:26 AM

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Guh?

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i suppose you used to hardcode while developing

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:26 AM

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yea

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I was just making shit up as I went along

torpid rover Oct 6, 2024, 4:27 AM

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woa

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:28 AM

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question flixel peeps

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can I display openfl content below flixel?

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I know you can put it on top

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nevermind probably not

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the background is opaque

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in the graphics api

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well no I guess not necessarily

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blobthinkingeyes I'll think about it later

torpid rover Oct 6, 2024, 4:31 AM

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maybe try spawning openfl stuff first then flixel stuff perhaps?

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i think flxgame is just a glorified openfl sprite if im not mistaken

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:32 AM

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yeah but I think it draws a opaque background color

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over the entire sprite

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no?

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 4:32 AM

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pure ruin can I display openfl content below flixel?

Most likely by adding content before the FlxGame object yes

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In the main entry point

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:33 AM

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ok thats good to know

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 4:33 AM

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Same thing for content on top

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For fps overlays and whatnot

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FlxGame is just an openfl Sprite with childs really

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:33 AM

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my temporary stuff will still be seen if we start doing the hud then

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 4:33 AM

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Wait

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The hud is made with openfl?

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:33 AM

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no

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everything is gonna be made in flixel

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just some temporary stuff with text

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that I did with openfl

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 4:34 AM

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Fair

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:34 AM

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you'll see, its hard to explain but it will become clear

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sega

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 4:34 AM

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Sega

torpid rover Oct 6, 2024, 4:35 AM

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pure ruin <:sega:1040240110521827338>

im gonna say a stretch here but

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https://tenor.com/view/sega-gif-17985768

Tenor

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SEGA intro

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:36 AM

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sonic

torpid rover Oct 6, 2024, 4:36 AM

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pure ruin <:sonic:1216208783580069929>

sonic_dead

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:36 AM

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dreamcast

torpid rover Oct 6, 2024, 4:37 AM

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Sonic~1

weak fern Oct 6, 2024, 4:37 AM

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pure ruin can I display openfl content below flixel?

i mean

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somewhat?

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you can put it under the cursor

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FlxG.addChildBelowMouse

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 4:38 AM

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Eh

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:40 AM

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another question

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 4:41 AM

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hi

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:41 AM

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nevermind, I'll surprise ya

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 4:42 AM

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okay

weak fern Oct 6, 2024, 4:42 AM

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pure ruin another question

what is the question

weak fern Oct 6, 2024, 4:42 AM

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pure ruin nevermind, I'll surprise ya

okay

twilit hare Oct 6, 2024, 5:01 AM

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Uhh

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 5:04 AM

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Waiting for chris to commit said backend

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smh if he commits it i can plug it to frontend,.,.

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By the way have you guys thought of a newer (or modified) idea for the game

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I was going to suggest but then i fell asleep mbbbbb

twilit hare Oct 6, 2024, 5:28 AM

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Hud

twilit hare Oct 6, 2024, 5:32 AM

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twilit hare

twilit hare Oct 6, 2024, 5:34 AM

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twilit hare

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pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 5:45 AM

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oh thats what you meant

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I see, yeah let me do that

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you keep forgetting the turtle tribe

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 5:46 AM

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Mb it looked tasty

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 5:48 AM

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the hud shouldnt be difficult

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the text only version is harder because we dont have a world map

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 5:48 AM

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Are you done with backend yet

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I thought you had a lot but so far theres just an asset macro and few json files

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Along with the state manager

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I thought you said the game backend is mostly done

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If it is, would be cool to commit so we can plug it into frontend

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 5:50 AM

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I am refactoring and carrying everything over to the main branch

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Im making it extensible to the ui/ux

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the backend is just pure haxe project with cli and neko

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so I had a lot of things to do to make it accessible to the flixel repo

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just going to confuse you more right this minute and I dont have time to answer a million questions

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 5:57 AM

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huh

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 5:57 AM

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lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 5:57 AM

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i mean...

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that's a class we could just add into the project directly?

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 5:57 AM

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no

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 5:58 AM

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unless it requires dependencies we don't have

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 5:58 AM

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nothing works with the new data structure

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 5:58 AM

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ah

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 5:58 AM

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well some of it does now im almost done

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just tired

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and you also need to see it working to understand how it can be translated

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otherwise you're just gonna ask me a million questions

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 6:00 AM

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guh

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 6:05 AM

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?

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 6:06 AM

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i wasnt aware of the flixel branch

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 6:07 AM

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I need..

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better music to wake me up

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 7:31 AM

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@pure ruin any progress?

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 7:40 AM

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no just doing some hulahoops

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https://tenor.com/view/baby-lol-gif-26591576

Tenor

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 7:46 AM

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dam

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 7:49 AM

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joke..obv

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 7:51 AM

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o

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 7:51 AM

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Also as this is Ludum Dare 56th, it's also the day FNF is four years old

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 7:52 AM

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wow time flies

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 7:52 AM

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fear

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 7:54 AM

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?

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 7:55 AM

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i kinda don't like having an util folder

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i just have a unified Tools class

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but whenever i see such folder i already know it's going to be bloated with thousands of util classes for many different things

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 7:58 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/milastauffer-whatever-eyeroll-gif-10044193424512832782

Tenor

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 8:00 AM

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lavish carbon i just have a unified Tools class

this ends up in real code bloat

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 8:01 AM

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my tools class isn't huge

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at all

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even though i have a pretty small codebase

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~100 modules?

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 8:02 AM

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utilities are supposed to be specialized

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for codebase navigation and clarity

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 8:03 AM

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pure ruin utilities are supposed to be specialized

i agree, here's a reference, would like areas for improvement here though

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 8:05 AM

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hell no

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why do you guys need utilities

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smh just write good code and all dat would be gone

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 8:05 AM

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lavish carbon smh just write good code and all dat would be gone

what if you had to write the same code

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you should do the DRY practice

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 8:06 AM

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depends? i have a single utility class but i don't have repeating code patterns either

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in my codebase

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 8:07 AM

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lavish carbon depends? i have a single utility class but i don't have repeating code patterns ...

another thing is that you're clearly separating the concern of your utilities

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it makes the whole codebase easier to navigate

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even for you

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you can't just say "good code" as a way to NOT use utilities

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 8:12 AM

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mmm depends on the context actually

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to be fair yeah i have a small codebase

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might not be the same for something like vslice

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 8:12 AM

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yo

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 8:12 AM

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hi

tender carbon Oct 6, 2024, 8:15 AM

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north sage you should do the DRY practice

Don't repeat your (mother)

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Nah but I agree a utils package is fine

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 8:50 AM

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@pure ruin is there any tasks that doesn't require any kind of backend

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i don't want to leave you alone

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or maybe we could liveshare if you don't mind

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 8:52 AM

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hold up

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isnt the thing over soon?

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 8:52 AM

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we have less than 2 days

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 8:53 AM

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uhhh

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kinda confused

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 8:54 AM

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ruby grove kinda confused

he answered your question

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is that enough?

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 9:03 AM

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yeah we probably need settings and load screens and a better landing screen

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and the hud

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 9:03 AM

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i can start writing the preferences backend

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landing screen?

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 9:04 AM

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title screen, in other words

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 9:04 AM

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you meant loading screen?

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oh

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 9:04 AM

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title screen

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 9:04 AM

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or the first screen you start with

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 9:04 AM

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sure ill get to it in a bit

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 9:04 AM

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leave some for me in the future

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 9:04 AM

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new game, load, settings

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 9:05 AM

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north sage leave some for me in the future

bro we have less than 2 days

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its now or never

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 9:05 AM

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lavish carbon bro we have less than 2 days

but how can i do anything if you want to do them :P

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that's what i meant

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 9:05 AM

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I mentioned this task yesterday and someone was like no we dont need those so no one did it

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like uhh ok

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I forget who it was

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 9:05 AM

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north sage but how can i do anything if you want to do them :P

ohhh mb

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sure you can choose what you want

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mmm actually

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do the title screen

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i suck at ui design

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 9:06 AM

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sure

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 9:06 AM

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ill do preferences

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 9:09 AM

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hmm

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perhaps a recoloring would do.. i'll come back to this later

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 9:10 AM

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does anyone have git-bash installed

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 9:10 AM

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yes, why?

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@pure ruin suggestion, if we're going for the haxeui look for the ui, i wouldn't recommend it as we have a pixel art style

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please don't say anything irrelevant here

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i literally see your mess in #haxe

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 9:14 AM

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oh

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ok

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deleted the msg

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 9:18 AM

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north sage <@267852611070197761> suggestion, if we're going for the haxeui look for the ui,...

oh comment out the text_only define in the project xml

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this is a debug view

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 9:19 AM

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figured it out

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 9:27 AM

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oh, feathersui isn't in the hxpkg file

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eh, if its temporary it shoulddnt cause much troubles

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.

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im

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 9:28 AM

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just comment it out in the xml

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 9:29 AM

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looks like hl is strict with openfl object

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 9:29 AM

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feathers I mean

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 9:29 AM

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maybe i can cast it

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huh

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dce?

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 9:29 AM

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interesting

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 9:29 AM

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yeah no dce still thinks the ui should be compiled

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 9:29 AM

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what is f64

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 9:29 AM

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float 64

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let me just do an unsafe cast

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 9:30 AM

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oh

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 9:30 AM

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._.

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 9:30 AM

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wait nvm

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 9:30 AM

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try

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Std.string()

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 9:30 AM

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it thinks openfl object is a float

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yeah

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fixed

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game gone?

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 9:32 AM

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you can change it

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 9:32 AM

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eh

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sure

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 9:36 AM

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using terminus ttf bold and then scaling it up to get the pixelated font

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 10:00 AM

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pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 10:03 AM

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ah bebe is awake

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I probably need to feed her. Be back soon

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 10:05 AM

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twilit hare

this is accurate if anyone wants to stub it and rough out something here.

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the entire game can be played with the text only mode by interacting with npcs who have an interaction event.

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when your npcs reveal one of the other clans, the other clans npcs start to show up as well. You'll get interactions with them too(just click on the npc with an event notification to start dialogue)

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decisions affect how your tribe progresses

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puzzles still exist to some degree but its beeen kind of slimmed down

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for example

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Example Situational Puzzles:

```Famine Crisis:
    choice a: Send out gatherers to forage in the wild.
        Outcome: This action may yield modest food resources if successful, but it carries a risk that some gatherers might not re turn. This builds resilience and the clan’s selfsufficiency but delays immediate relief
    Choice B: Steal from the neighboring [Leaf Clan].
        Outcome: You gain a quick boost to food reserves, but the Leaf Clan’s trust decreases, making future diplomacy harder. There’s a chance they find out and retaliate
    Choice C: Request aid from the [Water Clan].
        Outcome: If you have a good relationship, they provide assistance willingly, but you owe them a favor. A "favor debt" with the Water Clan may impact future interactions, binding your actions```

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 10:12 AM

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i wonder if that's still possible within the time we have left

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 10:13 AM

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this is one of the ones in the system

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theres several

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its the entire game

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without it there is no game lol

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note there is no food

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theres a generic resources stat

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 10:14 AM

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working on a macro-based setting system

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 10:14 AM

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theres a few stats

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Population
Morale
Resources
Illness
Gloom

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 10:16 AM

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lavish carbon working on a macro-based setting system

whats a macro again-

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 10:16 AM

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ruby grove whats a macro again-

you can look it up

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 10:16 AM

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your choices and time effect them

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sometimes you get items

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you're basically just looking for npcs to interact with the entire game

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from your clan and others

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when members of your clan wander around the map(automated/prng) they will expose new tribe npcs

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when you win enough favor from a tribe you'll get their relic and their population and metrics become part of yours as a whole

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the object of the game is to eliminate the gloom by uniting all tribes but its not easy

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you dont have to do that though

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you could eliminate the other tribes

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or die off yourself 😂

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it all depends on your decisions

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some tasks will reward you with items that you can use in future dialogue interactions

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theres not a whole lot of items

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if morale and resources are high, your population will grow(more npcs will spawn for more interactions)

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illness morale and gloom will reduce your population and result in the death of your pop

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the game is over when gloom is 0 or your pop is 0

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ah and there are 3 time settings

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once again the entire game can be played with text_only

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anyway, i'll be back in a little bit

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gotta feed bebe

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 10:28 AM

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https://github.com/haxecollab/ludum-dare-56/pull/31

GitHub

Implement preferences system by Sword352 · Pull Request #31 · haxec...

NOTE: can use @:ignore meta in any fields of Preferences to avoid it from being considered as a variable to save/load

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 10:34 AM

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cool

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 10:35 AM

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windows ci failed

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.

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why is openfl object treated as a float

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@pure ruin

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 10:44 AM

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lavish carbon <@267852611070197761>

just wrap it in a string

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 10:48 AM

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soo

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what ideas should i like use for the hud

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health-bar maybe

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idrk what i should do with it

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 11:05 AM

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twilit hare

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 11:05 AM

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north sage

@ruby grove

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 11:34 AM

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ah, unfortunately i can't continue, can't seem to make progress :c

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 11:34 AM

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Huh

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Whats ur progress on the loading screen so far

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Title screen

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 11:35 AM

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lavish carbon Whats ur progress on the loading screen so far

literally the title

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 11:35 AM

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?

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 11:35 AM

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and that's it

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"title"

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 11:35 AM

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Oh

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you dont have any ideas?

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 11:35 AM

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i might be complaining again but that and

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i don't know how haxeui works

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 11:36 AM

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grah its not complicated

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whatever ill try to come up with something myself

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Send me the font and the progress you did

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 11:37 AM

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📎 TextObject.hx 📎 MainMenuState.hx 📎 TerminusTTF-Bold.ttf

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i think i'll probably have to step down as a programmer for this, this sort of thing stresses me out a lot

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 11:44 AM

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Why?

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 11:47 AM

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lavish carbon Why?

i just said it

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 11:57 AM

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why does it stresses you out

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 11:58 AM

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lavish carbon why does it stresses you out

there just is

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i won't explain any further

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 12:10 PM

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?

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 12:29 PM

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lavish carbon https://github.com/haxecollab/ludum-dare-56/pull/31

ok, this also fixes openfl Object being treated as a float so it should fix actions

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 12:44 PM

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@north sage are you sure you sent the right font?

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it.. doesn't really look pixelated

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even without antialiasing

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 12:46 PM

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lavish carbon <@371253974319235073> are you sure you sent the right font?

yes

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you just have the incorrect size and scale

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the size is meant to be small, and it's to be scaled up

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 12:46 PM

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ah right so you scale it to twice it's size

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 12:47 PM

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this is a trick used in OneShot, which uses the same font

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 12:53 PM

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oh i got it working

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neat

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though it's quite hacky... so will have to find a similar font

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 12:54 PM

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what does hacky mean ..?

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 12:55 PM

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the way i did the thing isn't ideal

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 12:55 PM

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ehh

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what is the big issue with that

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it's just one small font thing

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 12:55 PM

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ruby grove what is the big issue with that

keyword: "non-ideal"

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 12:55 PM

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ruby grove it's just one small font thing

yes, but inconsistency

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it's one "small font" thing but a thing nonetheless

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what difference is there?

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 12:56 PM

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just keep it like that

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no one will notice

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 12:56 PM

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ruby grove no one will notice

that doesn't matter

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the whole point is that it's a non-ideal hack

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something that matters to us, and not anyone who's playing

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:00 PM

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should be good in term of licensing stuff?

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 1:01 PM

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north sage that doesn't matter

then why change it

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:01 PM

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nvm its cc licensed

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ok they used cc 0

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:01 PM

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ruby grove then why change it

it's a hacky solution, is it hard to understand?

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:01 PM

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aka we can use it

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entirely

zenith flume Oct 6, 2024, 1:01 PM

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north sage it's a hacky solution, is it hard to understand?

Does that matter in a game jam

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 1:01 PM

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north sage it's a hacky solution, is it hard to understand?

just keep it like that

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is it so hard for you to understand????

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:02 PM

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zenith flume Does that matter in a game jam

sword pointed it out

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:02 PM

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zenith flume Does that matter in a game jam

it ruins the ui itself sooooo

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 1:02 PM

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get over it

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:02 PM

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i'd rather find a font than do something not ideal and ruins the layout

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:03 PM

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ruby grove get over it

i'm not the one doing anything anymore, ask sword why he wants to find an "ideal" solution for our hacky way

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:03 PM

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since haxeui handles the positioning

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:05 PM

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zenith flume Does that matter in a game jam

all things considered, not much really

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:05 PM

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text might be too huge

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i'm not entirely sure myself

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don't mind the buttons, i'll replace them

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:05 PM

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the only concern you'd have with hacky solutions is with having to discuss with other people with how your solution works

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:06 PM

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lavish carbon text might be too huge

yeah, split it off to a new line

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idk if i really like the name, it kinda repeats itself

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:06 PM

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line break?

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:06 PM

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maybe just do Tiny Realms

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:06 PM

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fair enough

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:07 PM

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teal ravine maybe just do Tiny Realms

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:07 PM

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ye much better

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:08 PM

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to be honest i don't think we can go much wilder with the titlescreen yet

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since we don't have an idea on how gameplay frontend will look yet

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tho we should rlly start working on frontend if we got the backend done

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:09 PM

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teal ravine ye much better

by the way could you merge my pr as i don't think chris is online yet

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:10 PM

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ye

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:10 PM

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the guy is sleeping most likely, he hasn't slept for a while

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:10 PM

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yeah for sure

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windows ci is failing still for some reason

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 1:10 PM

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what are the plans for the hud

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:10 PM

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i think there was a sketch above

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:11 PM

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ruby grove what are the plans for the hud

i thought you got my forward?

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if you've updated discord that is

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 1:11 PM

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i didn't update my discord in a while

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:11 PM

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lavish carbon windows ci is failing still for some reason

apparently there is an implicit casting from Strings to JS that doesn't work on C++?

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:12 PM

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i fixed said cast

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I think?

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:12 PM

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ruby grove i didn't update my discord in a while

please do anyway

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lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:12 PM

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hold on

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:12 PM

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ah this is the "text only" version

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:13 PM

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why is feathersui required now

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:13 PM

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chris is debugging with a text-only version of the game

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so he's using feathersui for it

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dude istg im so used to neutral pronouns

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:14 PM

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looking into the windows ci thing now

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:15 PM

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string float conversation errors originally came for hl due to DataUtil.getObjectByID returning an openfl Object

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for some reason, it's treated as a float

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Std.string fixed it, but windows was complaining for a while now

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mmmmmm

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:16 PM

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maybe do a type check on the output?

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(DataUtil.getObjectByID(this._id, AssetManager.getData(CLANS).clans) : OpenFLObject).name + " NPCs";

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:17 PM

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Std.string(DataUtil.getObjectByID(this._id, AssetManager.getData(CLANS).clans).name + " NPCs")
i realized it's seeking for name

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which yeah it thinks the openfl object is a float

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let me reproduce that

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:17 PM

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lavish carbon which yeah it thinks the openfl object is a float

right, i think this is a common issue with HL

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HL doesn't exactly turn floats into strings when it's being appended with a string

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:18 PM

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this is c++

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 1:18 PM

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why use hl when neko exists ¯_(ツ)_/¯

zenith flume Oct 6, 2024, 1:18 PM

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ruby grove why use hl when neko exists ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

neko is deprecated

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:18 PM

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teal ravine this is c++

not sure what's happening there, maybe it's the same issue but happens differently?

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:19 PM

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waiting for it to compile on my system

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:19 PM

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ruby grove why use hl when neko exists ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

let's put aside sarcastic comments please

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 1:22 PM

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uh

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this isn't sarcasm

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:23 PM

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there

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most likely issue with openfl object's nature

zenith flume Oct 6, 2024, 1:23 PM

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what's line 290

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in the c++ file

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:23 PM

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we can just use casts

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:23 PM

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HXDLIN( 37) Float floatB = HX_(" NPCs",b2,23,9e,a0);

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:23 PM

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😭

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:24 PM

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Error: ./src/game/debug/ui/NPCList.cpp: In member function ‘void game::debug::ui::NPCList_obj::setup()’:
/home/logo/.haxe/hxcpp/4,3,2/include/hxcpp.h:179:30: error: cannot convert ‘String’ to ‘Float’ {aka ‘double’} in initialization
  179 | #define HX_(s,h0,h1,h2,h3) ::String( const_cast<char *>(( HX_HEX_QUOTE(h0) HX_HEX_QUOTE(h1) HX_HEX_QUOTE(h2) HX_HEX_QUOTE(h3) "\x00\x00\x10\x80" s )) + 8 , sizeof(s)/sizeof(char)-1)
      |                              ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      |                              |
      |                              String
./src/game/debug/ui/NPCList.cpp:290:48: note: in expansion of macro ‘HX_’
  290 | HXDLIN(  37)                    Float floatB = HX_(" NPCs",b2,23,9e,a0);

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here is a better error

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:24 PM

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var name:String = '${DataUtil.getObjectByID(this._id, AssetManager.getData(CLANS).clans).name}' + " NPCs";

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:24 PM

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thing is, AssetManager.getData also returns an openfl object

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so we have to cast pretty much everything?

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give me a sec

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how funky

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openfl TextEngine is now corrupted

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i'll just rebuild the project

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the first error is gone tho

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var clanData:Dynamic = AssetManager.getData(CLANS);
var object:Dynamic = DataUtil.getObjectByID(this._id, clanData.clans);
var name:String = Std.string(object.name + " NPCs");

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looks like openfl Object is the issue

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though it might also be nice to just use an anonymous structure instead of referencing the data as dynamic

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yeah, fixed

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eh ill use dynamic for now

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pushed

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ci should be good now but lets wait

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what

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:37 PM

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it does that, idk why

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:37 PM

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what the hell

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:37 PM

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a quick restart fixes it

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:37 PM

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segmentation fault in haxe

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:38 PM

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maybe i should try compiling to a different target than interp

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but it isn't really a big deal

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:39 PM

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that's

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that's even worse if its interp

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but i disgress

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:41 PM

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it might be an issue with http

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 1:43 PM

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lavish carbon windows ci is failing still for some reason

probably some latest version of haxe

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:44 PM

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oh hi chris

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we should start working on gameplay frontend my man

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we have nothing but backend

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:44 PM

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i don't like the -nologo argument of this command

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:44 PM

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and a title screen

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:45 PM

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perhaps i can serve as some 'gameplay & balance designer' in a way? i don't draw though, i only write my ideas in text :p

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:45 PM

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oh, windows build worked. good job

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:45 PM

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yes

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anyways can pr be merged

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:45 PM

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merging now

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 1:45 PM

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it's good to know though I'll have to look at it next week

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:45 PM

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hell yes

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:45 PM

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pure ruin it's good to know though I'll have to look at it next week

we have one day 😭

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 1:46 PM

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no no the Object issue

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:46 PM

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ah right mb

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:46 PM

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lavish carbon we have one day 😭

speaking of next week, if we can't release this in time, we could always salvage it as a free game, always to be improved

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:46 PM

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.

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:47 PM

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at least by then we'd probably have a game that continously improves

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 1:47 PM

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someone is working on the tilemap now

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:47 PM

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hell yes

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:48 PM

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i'm guessing the someone is your wife? lol

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 1:48 PM

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and we still have 34 hours

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35*

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:48 PM

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it's... not much time

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oh, and school waits me tomorrow

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rn its almost 4pm for me

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:48 PM

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lavish carbon it's... not much time

well most of us aren't good at time management it seems

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:49 PM

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anyways i tweaked the title screen

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:49 PM

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hmm, yes that's good

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and can we replace the background?

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:49 PM

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we cant really inovate much on it because we have less than 40 hours and we don't even have a gameplay frontend to base the menu on

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:49 PM

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not exactly ideal if our game's antagonist is "the gloom"

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:49 PM

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yes we can replace it

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:50 PM

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maybe you can get away with some hue shifting and brightness

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and leave that as a placeholder

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:50 PM

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background is easy to swap out

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it was a placeholder to begin with

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:51 PM

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oh yeah credits is affected by the font now

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:51 PM

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i suppose it fits

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:51 PM

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i would make usernames a bit bigger

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 1:51 PM

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agreed

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:52 PM

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is there a bold version of the font?

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 1:52 PM

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what does tbd mean exactly

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:52 PM

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to be discussed

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:52 PM

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yes theres a bold version

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:52 PM

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or to be determined

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:53 PM

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lavish carbon yes theres a bold version

yeah, put that in there

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:53 PM

#

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sure

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 1:54 PM

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lavish carbon

is that font free to use without a license

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:55 PM

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yeah

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cc0 licensed

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public domain

#

#

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:58 PM

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reduce role size and increase github username size on the left

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increase both role and display name on right

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:58 PM

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sure

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 1:59 PM

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i can do it if you need lol

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 1:59 PM

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nah

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not sure if that's good enough

north sage Oct 6, 2024, 2:04 PM

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lavish carbon not sure if that's good enough

well the issue is small text being used to display large content

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 2:05 PM

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?

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no not really

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@teal ravine any thoughts

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thought adding a small fade would be cool

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also made the background slightly darker

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i think that's good enough for now

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what

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??

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github is high

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im going to start working on gameplay fronte

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while chris works on backen

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@teal ravine https://github.com/haxecollab/ludum-dare-56/pull/32

GitHub

Titlescreen tweaks by Sword352 · Pull Request #32 · haxecollab/ludu...

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sigh im not sure what to really do

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 2:35 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/night-sleep-gif-27085775

Tenor

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 2:35 PM

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he woke up

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 2:36 PM

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@lavish carbon reviewing

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 2:36 PM

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let it be known

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 2:36 PM

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merged

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 2:37 PM

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flixel hates me

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 2:39 PM

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huh

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why

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like what are ya doin

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 2:40 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/relax-seinfeld-calm-george-calm-down-gif-24100165

Tenor

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https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-stiller-serenitynow-gif-10104416

Tenor

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 2:40 PM

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???

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 2:41 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/serenity-pimento-gif-5381522

Tenor

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 2:41 PM

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no seriously

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 2:41 PM

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Seriously

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 2:41 PM

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m

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 2:42 PM

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why does it go straight to the feathersui debug hud

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 2:42 PM

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comment out the text_only define

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in the project xml

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 2:44 PM

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is there anything frontend related

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that can be done without any kind of backend

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 2:44 PM

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it slipped by in my last commit

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 2:47 PM

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gah

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this todo list is unreadable

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do you have any tasks to give me

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i really want to do something frontend related

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@pure ruin is everything ready for hud?

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or do i still need to wait for backend to be done

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or any kind of logics that is missing in the repo

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fear

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 2:50 PM

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stop

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 2:51 PM

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?

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no we really need to start working on something

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im scared

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mmmm

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so your wife is doing tilemap

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 2:51 PM

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no

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 2:52 PM

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?

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i got told she is

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 2:52 PM

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no you didnt

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 2:52 PM

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guh

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 2:53 PM

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chris said "someone" is working on the tilemap

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and i guessed (incorrectly) that it was his wife

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 2:53 PM

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based it on this too

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 2:53 PM

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ah

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 2:55 PM

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shes working on the hud, the tilemap was a bit complicated

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someone else is working on the tilemap

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 2:55 PM

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oh

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oh glad to know we're not alone

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i feel much better now

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ah

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 2:57 PM

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your wife and whoever is doing tilemap should be added to contributors.xml

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no one should be unaccounted for

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 2:57 PM

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and should also just show up in this thread or something

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mmm might work on this

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 3:00 PM

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the todo is stale

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 3:00 PM

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oh?

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what should i work on then

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 3:04 PM

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dunno

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 3:05 PM

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the only open task is.. hud

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i don't want to just do nothing

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we gain time if we work more

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 3:06 PM

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theres no open tasks

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that Im aware of

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 3:06 PM

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any things that aren't taken by anyone yet?

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other than tilemap/hud

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 3:07 PM

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thats basically all thats left

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 3:07 PM

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. what

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only.. tilemap and hud?

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what about the game?

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like idk fighting against mobs and such

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 3:08 PM

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you have not been paying attention at all

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ok, I dont have time for this conversation anymore 🙂

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 3:08 PM

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i

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sure

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well if theres no more tasks i

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ok just ping me whenever needed

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 3:09 PM

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will do

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 3:09 PM

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mind if i just

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reorganize a tiny bit the source code

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it's a bit messy

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 3:10 PM

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yes, dont touch anything you're not responsible for

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you'll create merge issues

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 3:10 PM

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sure

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wait

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what does this implies

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 3:10 PM

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he doesn't want you to reorganize

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 3:11 PM

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o

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okay

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the urge to move the contributors macro to the macros folder though...

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 3:11 PM

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lol

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that was made before the macros folder was a thing

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 3:11 PM

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yeah completely fair

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 3:13 PM

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if you need to refactor anything you've worked on already it should be fine. Just dont play too much with anything else unless its to fix something or add something new

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if you start moving things around it's gonna be a headache

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 3:14 PM

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relatable tbh

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 3:14 PM

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we can clean up the codebase after the jam

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 3:14 PM

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true

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yeah ok im not touching anything

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 3:14 PM

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tbf moving contributors macro shouldn't affect anything

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 3:14 PM

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you can do it

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rn i just opened arrow vortex

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locking in

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:43 PM

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ehhhh memory leak

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its not bad I'll fix it after the jam ends

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 4:47 PM

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Huh

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@pure ruin what did you just say

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Memory leak? Where

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:51 PM

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clearing the state for new game

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its ok

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I think I fixed it but we'l see

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 4:52 PM

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Ah

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Well the gc still needs to clear things up

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:55 PM

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a leak an object gc cant clean

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its ok, this is not my finest code moment

crisp jackal Oct 6, 2024, 4:57 PM

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And here goes a music

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 4:59 PM

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crisp jackal And here goes a music

37 mb moment

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 4:59 PM

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raw audio is very large

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thats normal

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thank you @crisp jackal

crisp jackal Oct 6, 2024, 5:00 PM

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I may possibly send a new version later with a few tweaks in the mix but apart from that the song is finished so far

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 5:01 PM

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its good and it sets the pace well

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dig it

crisp jackal Oct 6, 2024, 5:03 PM

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Let me know if you need the audio converted in other formats

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 5:05 PM

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pure ruin a leak an object gc cant clean

you didnt get gc to clear it in any ways?

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guh

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Wait mmmm

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There might be a leak from my code too

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PlayState.self is a static that never gets nulled out

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override function destroy() {
    super.destroy();
    self = null;
}

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Fix to put in playstate class

crisp jackal Oct 6, 2024, 5:08 PM

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Well, that was quick, here we go with 37mb more with a small correction in the mix

teal ravine Oct 6, 2024, 5:26 PM

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oo

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thanks so much

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 5:36 PM

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neat track

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 5:56 PM

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@pure ruin any progress if you dont mind?

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What did you get so far

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 6:01 PM

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I got uh

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Chick fil a

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https://tenor.com/view/chick-fil-a-deluxe-sandwich-chicken-sandwich-fast-food-gif-13446087060889607349

Tenor

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oh you mean code

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 6:05 PM

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pure ruin Chick fil a

oh tasty

vivid ivyBOT Oct 6, 2024, 6:06 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1282493664068767825/1292548234795028653/image.png?ex=670422d9&is=6702d159&hm=f78038cbbff6005f3d8f5aa106332197cad5c414931dc6fcb22f0e5f8c50bbcf&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 6:14 PM

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ruby grove oh tasty

joke

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because they're closed on Sunday

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sadness

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I would just kill for some of their lemonade right now

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I could use a sugar pick-me-up

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liquid gold

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 6:18 PM

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oh .____.

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 6:19 PM

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wife was showing me a bunch of wip posts over the last couple hours from the feed

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 6:21 PM

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we're cooked

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 6:21 PM

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People focus so heavily on the front end

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that they havent even started working on the game itself

ruby grove Oct 6, 2024, 6:22 PM

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front end or back end, what is better

pure ruin Oct 6, 2024, 6:22 PM

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I'm feeling pretty good about where we are at

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 6:48 PM

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pure ruin oh you mean code

No the project 😭

lavish carbon Oct 6, 2024, 6:49 PM

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ruby grove front end or back end, what is better

We need both

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Tldr:
Frontend = what the user sees
Backend = what's powering it

torpid rover Oct 6, 2024, 11:16 PM

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lavish carbon Tldr: Frontend = what the user sees Backend = what's powering it

y not a middleend, the glue keeping the front and back stuck together

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 2:38 AM

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center-end

weak fern Oct 7, 2024, 2:48 AM

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end

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 3:08 AM

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man its gonna be close

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im excited for sleep

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no one still made a load screen and added the buttons :3

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New Game, Load game

torpid rover Oct 7, 2024, 3:17 AM

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random thought what if loading game loaded data from a text file or somethin

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idk jus a thought

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 3:18 AM

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yeah it does

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the StateManager handles it

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we just dont have the ui for it

lavish carbon Oct 7, 2024, 3:45 AM

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pure ruin no one still made a load screen and added the buttons :3

You could have told me bruh

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 3:47 AM

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I did earlier

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well i mentioned it

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 3:49 AM

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pure ruin new game, load, settings

here

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its all good

lavish carbon Oct 7, 2024, 3:50 AM

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o

lavish carbon Oct 7, 2024, 4:34 AM

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Do you guys have anything to show tho

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@pure ruin

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Or any progress indication?

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Is the tilemap done?

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Hows the hud going?

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 4:34 AM

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everyone working on stuff went to bed

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cept me

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https://tenor.com/view/omori-kel-omori-cooked-gif-4215442768970673276

Tenor

lavish carbon Oct 7, 2024, 4:35 AM

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Whats the current progress of the project either way

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We have less than 18 hours which is

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Not bad at all

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Just say hows stuff doin

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Is there anything done

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 4:36 AM

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I hope I survive 18 more hours

lavish carbon Oct 7, 2024, 4:36 AM

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.

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they.. did nothing?

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 4:36 AM

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no its just late here

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in the usa

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its 1 am

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on the east coast

lavish carbon Oct 7, 2024, 4:36 AM

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But then why dont you say anything about the current progress

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i dont care if they sleep, they can rest and you should to 😭

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Im talking about what's done in the project rn

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Is the tilemap completed

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 4:37 AM

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no

lavish carbon Oct 7, 2024, 4:37 AM

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Eventually is the hud as well

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ah

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Well was there any progress on these

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 4:37 AM

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I didnt get to see anything on the tilemap yet

lavish carbon Oct 7, 2024, 4:37 AM

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o

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 4:38 AM

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the hud is good

lavish carbon Oct 7, 2024, 4:38 AM

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Hell yes

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has it been commited to the repo yet

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 4:38 AM

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not yet

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when do you go to school?

lavish carbon Oct 7, 2024, 4:39 AM

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In few hours

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Though this morning i have one hour

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Meaning i have 3 hours free after that hour before i go back to school during the afternoon

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So i could work on said load screen

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Bruh you made a custom event 😭

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game.eventDispatcher.addEventListener(GameEvent.POPULATION_CHANGE, _onPopulationChange);

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Cool i suppose

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Didnt know you could do that though lol

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 4:43 AM

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lavish carbon Oct 7, 2024, 4:43 AM

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.

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Why did you make a sound backend

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 4:43 AM

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I didnt

lavish carbon Oct 7, 2024, 4:44 AM

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source/sound ?

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welll something sound related then

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 4:44 AM

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its one of my libraries

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quicker than trying to remember how to do everything with flixel

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at this point im done trying to fight with flixel

lavish carbon Oct 7, 2024, 4:45 AM

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Ah. Well at least you didnt spend an ungodly amount of time for something that might have been uneeded i guess

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I was so scared that you lost time just on that lol

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 4:45 AM

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no i did that to save me time

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vs looking at the flixel documentation

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this source

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is a frankenstein

lavish carbon Oct 7, 2024, 4:46 AM

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Ever heard of FlxG.sound.play ?

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 4:46 AM

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yeah but

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I dont have to think about anything because I know my lib

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its been years since I did anything with flixel

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I forget things

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anyway

lavish carbon Oct 7, 2024, 4:48 AM

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you imported haxe.macro.Expr in npc list

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How funky

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 4:48 AM

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probably accidental autocomplete somewhere

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im a zombie

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im pretty sure those metrics are not even current

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github lags a bit

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because I actually have twice that number of commits

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How much game time

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should equal 1 day

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5 minutes, 10 minutes?

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3 minutes?

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hmm

torpid rover Oct 7, 2024, 5:03 AM

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maybe 10 mins since minecraft

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 5:14 AM

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thanks

lavish carbon Oct 7, 2024, 5:44 AM

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@pure ruin sooo, we need a load-save screen and a preferences menu?

pure ruin Oct 7, 2024, 5:52 AM

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we need a load screen from the main menu

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