#insane lag on screen

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dim scarab
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One video is recorded with my phone. you can clearly see that I´m playing with low fps and extreme lag spikes.
then you watch the other one (screen capture) and it´s completely fine.
well, I had LESS THAN a SINGLE F****** FRAME PER SECOND the ENTIRE TIME
my pc runs everything else at a stable 60fps and I can make it run most other games I have installed at 240fps or MORE
this means that buying a new gpu will most likely not solve this.

maiden narwhal
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Documents\Trackmania\Replays\

dim scarab
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okay...

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I´ll try it.

dim scarab
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that didn´t help much, if at all

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pc be like:
whoooosh
"clear for takeoff"

maiden narwhal
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Tried playing at a lower graphics preset?

dim scarab
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I´m basically at the lowest possible settings

abstract cargo
dim scarab
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nope. keyboard with cable.

abstract cargo
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can you open up the history profiler via Ctrl-F7

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and as soon as you see a spike in the graph press "paused" on the left

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and then you can mouseover the spiked frames and take a screenshot of what you see then please and send that here

dim scarab
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k, I´ll do that.

abstract cargo
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looks like this, except for with a frame selected that has high latency then ofc

dim scarab
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there are literally no spikes.

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I still get lag spikes with as much as 3 seconds per frame

abstract cargo
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so you're saying you see them but the game doesn't pick any up

dim scarab
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yep.

abstract cargo
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and it's tm2020 specific like you said

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do you per chance use gsync or anything like that?

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could you share your ingame settings?

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full screenshots of them

dim scarab
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the game says it´s running at set fps.
there are no spikes or anything, but I´m playing at 1-30fps.
tm2020

abstract cargo
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@upper wagon have you heard of something like this yet?

upper wagon
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switch your hdmi/displayport cable

dim scarab
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hmm...

dim scarab
abstract cargo
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Gsync/freesync is what i meant with that

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a topic on which chris92 is vastly more experienced at so i won't say much on that further

dim scarab
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idk...

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never heard of that

dim scarab
upper wagon
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basically

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replace the cable entirely

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gsync/freesync no clue, that shouldn't cause those lags to appear on your screen

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it just seems like a faulty connection between gpu and monitor tbh

abstract cargo
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the issue that i see is that they don't experience this issue in other games?

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from what it sounded like

upper wagon
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the weird thing is

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the game recording he showed in the initial post is fine

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but the screen is showing something totally choppy

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I would either try switching hdmi/display ports on the gpu or on the monitor

abstract cargo
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yeah i did see that

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could there possibly be some software that holds frames hostage when a specific application is run tho

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what if the monitor is receiving frames constantly but receiving still frames but the recording can still grab the game itself independent of that

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idk this is messed up

upper wagon
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no the way OBS and other softwares usually record is grabbing the frames straight off the GPU

abstract cargo
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but only in exclusive fullscreen it gets instantly sent out after the game is finished rendering right

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otherwise it goes in the GPU through some more processing of putting the image together with all other software

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OS etc

upper wagon
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yea but windowed fullscreen shouldnt have this issue either

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windows compositor usually doesnt fuck with image that much

abstract cargo
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usually it doesn't yes

dim scarab
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hardware:
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6core 3.6GHz
Radeon RX 570 Series with 8.2GB 1.75GHz VRAM

dim scarab
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if I had even just stable 30fps, I would be 10-20% faster on all maps.

upper wagon
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have you switched out hdmi/displayport cables as requested?

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or tried a different monitor?

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something's definitely off here

dim scarab
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yeah... something´s off. literally everything else runs perfectly at the monitors framerate with no screen tearing.
then I open trackmania. everything else runs fine.
I click on it, start a map and I´m playing at 10-20fps with lag spikes up to 2spf
I alt tab out and everything else runs fine.
it has to be a game optimization or compatibility issue.

dim scarab
upper wagon
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yea idk man

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something about your system doesn't like Trackmania it seems

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maybe try a clean gpu driver install

dim scarab
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hmm...

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depending on background tasks, map and where I am in the map, I can get an average of up to 240 fps.
according to the game.
but I´m still playing at 10-20 with lag spikes

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according to the game I can get more than 300fps in the editor

upper wagon
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yea it's something with your system as mentioned

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maybe try a clean Windows install

dim scarab
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alright, I´ll see what I can do and if it helps.
we´re about to visit grandparents/uncle and he´s kinda a tech guy.

twilit moss
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@upper wagon hi, just started searching for a thread to issue the same complaint, but my system is Windows 10 on a gaming laptop, sometimes the game boots up and works normally at 165 locked FPS, sometimes it only works 165 in the menu's, but ingame (or in editor) its the same freezing mess

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Been happening for a week or so

upper wagon
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try moving your documents\trackmania\replays folder somewhere else

twilit moss
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basically, the system doesn't react on the game - fans aren't spinning, changing power modes (battery save / balanced) doesn't do anything, like the system isn't even trying

twilit moss
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nah, didn't help, FPS is locked at 20/21

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last time i've fixed it with a system reboot, if it fixes the game, i'll try to put the system in the sleep mode and wake it up and launch again, cus I have suspicions its connected to the sleep mode

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Also, in the menu, this time it looked more like 50/60 fps instead of 165

ripe ruin
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Check GPU temperature when you have freezes

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I remember I had to manually increase fan speed to avoid freezes

twilit moss
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Wait, I've never tried launching other games when this bug happens - turns out TMNF works the same, FPS never gets higher than 30-40 there

ripe ruin
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Also check if the right GPU is selected

upper wagon
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sleep mode is bad

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never use it

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just do full reboot/shutdown instead

twilit moss
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Rebooting helped, but sleep mode didn't break anything as well.
It might be some bios bug of my laptop, because before sleep I'm watching stuff on it while unplugged from power, and it often reaches low-battery state before i either close the lid or it shuts down by itself.
So, probably unrelated

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Also, restoring Autosaves folder didn't break anything for me, so system seems not affected by it

upper wagon
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if you're unplugged

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then it's normal that your game is lagging

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because default behavior is that it goes to energy saving mode

twilit moss
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What i mean is "unplugged" mode gets stuck with GPU even when the full power is back

upper wagon
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hmm weird

dim scarab
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restarting and reconnecting everything seemed to help. cleaning the cooling parts also helped a bit.
we swapped to a gtx 1070 and it runs way better.
like... WAY better.

upper wagon
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idk

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the 1070 is on par with it tho

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so if it runs better, that's good