#FPS issues whenever i play with controller

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molten bluff
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my fps stutters a lot and goes a lot lower whenever i connect my controller to my PC with bluetooth and play with it

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note: I have a custom installation of windows 10 called KernelOS which removes most 'useless' features to make it run better and faster

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My PC specs if needed:
I9 11900K
32GB 3600mhz ram
RTX 3070TI from GIGABYTE

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i would not only like to fix the FPS stuttering issues but also get my game to reach better frames if that's possible, because i have a 240hz monitor and get 130fps max playing with controller

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(this issue is not only on world tour maps, but also on campaign tracks)

jolly nova
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trackmania doesn't really like wireless input devices and kind of breaks because of it, only real workaround is to either connect the controller via wire or disconnect it completely

molten bluff
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okay and im guessing there is no way to fix this if im not able to connect my controller to pc with wire

ashen zealot
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and for PS4 PS5 and switch pro controllers you need to use DS4windows as well, just as a side info

molten bluff
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well that sucks, because id need to buy a new controller

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the part where you put the wire in is broken

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is there any other way so i can play wireless but not suffer from fps drops like with some kind of program

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I have a normal xbox controller

ashen zealot
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not sure if smth like DS4windows works for xbox controllers

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@icy ravine can you use it to just emulate a pad and have the game not see the hardware directly?

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or is that not a thing with any wireless connection in first place?

molten bluff
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i couldnt get DS4windows to detect my xbox controller, idk if thats my issue because i have no clue how it works or it just cant use xbox

ashen zealot
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yeah i don't know if it supports that in first place, that's why i asked chris

wooden tundra
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i want my pc to run better

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i have an i5 11400
gpu intel(hd) 730 12 gb

ashen zealot
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kernelOS won't help you at all, what you need is a dedicated graphics solution

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with that intel hd730, the most you can do is try and play Trackmania2 or TMUF

wooden tundra
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so my pc doesnt work with different parts

ashen zealot
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cuz it's probably a small office machine without expansion, yes

wooden tundra
ashen zealot
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Well, you're out of luck but you can't play tm2020 with that ever at all

wooden tundra
ashen zealot
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no intel graphics support

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?intel

noble peakBOT
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Trackmania (2020) doesn't officially support Intel graphics for various reasons. If you played the game without issues before and have run into problems now, it's likely that you previously just got lucky.
It's recommended to either upgrade to a dedicated GPU (from Nvidia or AMD), or try out the older TrackMania games that support Intel graphics.

If you're using an Intel Arc GPU and you aren't afraid of tinkering with it a little, there's been reports of getting the game to run reasonably well with the help of DXVK. This workaround has also been confirmed to work for some Iris Xe GPUs - so while it's not a guaranteed fix, it might be worth a try.
See here for a helpful guide.

wooden tundra
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i play

ashen zealot
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Next update and you might not

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It's luck based

wooden tundra
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just only on 24 fps max in the new campain

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i get 100+ on old compaigns

ashen zealot
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Best advice is: don't buy access for TM2020 if you are on intel graphics

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you might literally sink your money into nowhere, unable to play with the next update

wooden tundra
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i have everything on the lowest setting, 800x600 resolution, 3frames gpu/cpu sync, no vsync, nothing open on pc, no apps open on startup, high performince, and i even have tweaker plugin on open planet

ashen zealot
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That is irrelevant to what i said

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what i'm talking about is a compatibility issue

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...like the game won't even launch anymore at all

wooden tundra
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i bought standard already

ashen zealot
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Yeah, use it as much as you can

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but don't buy again until you have a better pc

wooden tundra
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cuz i wanted to play the old seasons i played in past

wooden tundra
ashen zealot
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That sounds good!

wooden tundra
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i bought standard $10 about a week or two ago

ashen zealot
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rip

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XD

wooden tundra
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wdym man

molten bluff
wooden tundra
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thats 6 months WITH the good pc

molten bluff
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just keep win 10 till your new pc :)

ashen zealot
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just hope the game won't break for you

wooden tundra
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is there a way to disable particles

ashen zealot
wooden tundra
molten bluff
ashen zealot
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intel hd730 is an hd730... KernelOS won't fix that

molten bluff
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it just removes bloatware from windows

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and optimizes most tasks

ashen zealot
wooden tundra
ashen zealot
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tweaker render distance limiting is already the hardest performance gain you can get

molten bluff
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you can turn off dirt smoke with skidmarks manager but thats all i know of

ashen zealot
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that won't remove it, it just makes it invisible

wooden tundra
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i have microsoft defender disabled where i cannot turn it on unless i favtory reset because it was taking my ram

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why would it even work like that of all things

ashen zealot
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maybe it's a machine not even meant for personal use at all

wooden tundra
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got a question, are you able to use custom texture files

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outside your downloaded maps

ashen zealot
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yeah by using the modwork folder which the skidmarks "mod" and plugin also abuses

wooden tundra
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for $500 my mom 100% got scammed on the price

ashen zealot
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yes that's a scam

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a hard one

wooden tundra
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you can get x2 performance from a pc the same price

ashen zealot
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at least

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i mean in terms of gaming, probably 5x, due to the lack of a graphics card in yours

wooden tundra
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yeah

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another question

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why does windows take up half my ram on idle

ashen zealot
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it doesn't really

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it caches a lot of data

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if a program actually needs the space

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windows will offer it to it

wooden tundra
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ah

ashen zealot
wooden tundra
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i have 12 gb ram and windows takes 6-7 on idle

ashen zealot
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you can use RAMMap tho to manually clear out the ram caching

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yes that's normal

wooden tundra
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another another question

molten bluff
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you can also check in your task manager startup tab to see what's starting up evgery time you start your pc

wooden tundra
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i used to be able to use the map maker thing but now my game crashes anytime i try loading it

wooden tundra
ashen zealot
molten bluff
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if it starts like 20 apps on startup without him knowing then it kinda does

ashen zealot
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RAMMap is taking up a bunch of space, regardless of programs

wooden tundra
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it is if you have adobe, discord, steam and rockstar

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adobe tanks my pc's ram

ashen zealot
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and always have a tree in the map

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try that at least

wooden tundra
ashen zealot
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yes

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an empty map has no trees in it

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that crashes on a ton of intel graphics

wooden tundra
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ok then... why does the game crash when i load any of the 30 training maps

ashen zealot
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cuz they have no trees

wooden tundra
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they dont?

ashen zealot
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no

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most don't

wooden tundra
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ok

ashen zealot
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all of those issues you experience there are due to you using intel graphics

wooden tundra
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so i have played the map "cyclones"

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and it worked fine

ashen zealot
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lots of different factors are involved

molten bluff
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i love how my support thread just turned into this YEP

ashen zealot
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yeah i mean... urgh

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but your problem is mostly answered anyways right

molten bluff
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yeah

ashen zealot
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i mean you know the issue

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just a matter of how you solve it

wooden tundra
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so you said it has to have a tree

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1 why

molten bluff
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if there's no application to fix it im just gonna buy a wired controller

ashen zealot
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ye

wooden tundra
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2 if ive loaded a map with tree why problem still exist

ashen zealot
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intel graphics drivers are janky and buggy af

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it's unreliable

wooden tundra
ashen zealot
molten bluff
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my fps is extremely low because i use a wireless controller

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thats my issue

wooden tundra
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does it just happen randomly or when connecting disconnecting

molten bluff
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in any run

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i have some clips all the way in the beginning

ashen zealot
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wireless controllers in general cause issues in all trackmanias on PC

wooden tundra
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i cant even get the control stick to work proporly in tmnf

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it just tried using wasd but mapped to the stick

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so no slight steering

ashen zealot
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if you want to discuss anything else, make a thread of your own or discuss it in the respective channels

molten bluff
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also its not just when im playing with controller

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even when i just have it connected my fps is mud

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but its fine im gonna order a new controller soon