#arenafps

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glad sundial
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just like quakelive

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so the level decreases

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no

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competition is what pushes gameplay

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without it, the advances are very minimal

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you think that

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but if a 1 million tournament

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would come for shootmania

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for december 2022

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none of the current players

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would place top10

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yes lets see, throw in $1m

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lol

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i say this because this happens with quake a lot

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the top players stop playing

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so the sub top players will rise up

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and become the new top players

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and after 5 years

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they think they're the best and that game is so advanced

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then a top player comes back

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after 4-5 years

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and 2 weeks later

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he is destroying them

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i think you'll start to understand what i mean if u ask yourself more questions like this one

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:D

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it always changes

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but those changes arent always an evolution

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and it's very minimal changes

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compared to the changes that will appear

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soon as some competition comes

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the changes that shootmania had in 7 years

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would have been achieved in 5 months

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if there were $100k tournaments

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every 2 months

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it's true

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look at fortnite

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and how it constantly changes

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if ur a pro in fortnite and quit the game for 5 months

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ur done for

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can never get top100 again

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because of the speed of competitive evolution

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without that competitive factor, the evolution is very dismissable

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everyone still improves but its very minimal in the grand scheme of things

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and the realizations and changes everyone made would be achieved really fast by more talented players if the game had competition

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u gotta realize that the new players

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wouldnt only play among themselves

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they would play vs the current top players

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so they would absorb everything

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very quickly

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and then improve from there

glad sundial
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you think 1000 hours is too little to get up to speed with current meta in a dead game for players that were previously very good?

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i think 200 hours would be enough

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for previous pros to get there

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i said previous pros a lot of times lol

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someone new wouldnt even care about the game to begin with most likely

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regardless of the prize pool

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yea in that occasion i said new players not sure why, i meant the returning players

celest ridge
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Halo ce is an arena fps

glad sundial
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think halo is the one game that i never understood at all why anyone would consider it to be arena fps

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slow ass movement

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and normal weapons like cs and shit

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literally has nothing going for it that could be considered arena fps

celest ridge
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You play for map control

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Weapon spawns

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2v2

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Same start

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Power ups

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Spawn trapping

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Only thing it's missing is movement

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It's an arena fps

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Feel like halo 2 and further is not really arena fps

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But halo ce is 100% an arena fps

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Health pickups also and armor

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All on timers even

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It's all about map control just like duel

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Just 2v2

glad sundial
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so it's tdm

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tdm doesn't make it arena fps

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its call of duty tdm on low gravity

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the weapon spawns is a plus but given u can only have 1/2 at a time, meh

viral venture
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i dont like halo so its not an arena fps

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simple as that

versed wyvern
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genre

celest ridge
broken stone
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this is what the AI thinks afps is--- so basically if your gun is larger than your torso and you fire it while airborne

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and must have a rocket launcher

prime moon
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Sounds like shootmania

glad sundial
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doesnt call of duty have a rocket launcher too

timid jolt
coarse ledge
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sub genders?

coarse ledge
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its fine

haughty rover
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basically, ins definition of afps is "quake clones"

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not trying to sound dismissive, but that makes it infinitely easier to understand

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and regarding the $1million causing change, it already had lol

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it evolved into everything other than afps

haughty rover
glad sundial
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my personal subjective definition of afps is any game which u have plenty of versatile weapons which u can hold and switch to within the same fight

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i think that that weapon selection "dance" is what makes afps afps

versed wyvern
broken stone
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Afps is a lot more like folk music

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It shares large influence but made in a hundred tiny villages with local variations

broken stone
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should post on r/afps and bring popcorn

glad sundial
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everyone is entitled to their opinion

keen iron
rich plume
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ShootMania is a bad example. I'm pretty sure more arena FPS pros could walk into the ShootMania scene and dominate it within weeks. It's a simple game

worn oak
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pickups and the environments are pretty variable between some AFPS games or even modes within them but this part is fairly unified

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I mean you can go with more broad definitions but this one is fairly well defined and captures most AFPSes

fierce slate
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I feel like all the really good defraggers could go very far but not really the fellas who mainly play duel and shi

fierce slate
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Wait just so I'm not mistaken

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Shoot mania is the race centered game right?

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Yeah

glad sundial
fierce slate
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Is what I meant

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I think I am delusional

glad sundial
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Wonder how that would play like

worn oak
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rocket league + warsow = most game of all time

glad sundial
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Definitely one of the games of all time

vital viper
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does diabotical casual q ever fill

broken stone
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which queue

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use warmup button

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everybody just uses pickups or custom games in the list, or warmupp

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fridays 630pm est there is casual instagib lobby up

haughty rover
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is potassium gun an afps

ashen heart
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certainly looks like one

undone snow
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The defenition of afps is very strict. Some don't even consider quake champions a true afps 🤷‍♂️

quartz flame
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What IS a true AFPS?

lament vortex
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Quake 3 and quake live. Maybe quake world if you’re feeling generous

haughty rover
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that's just quake 3

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they are practically the same game

glad sundial
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Only quake 1 is afps

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For trve pvrists

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Other quakes have a rail

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Dumbed down noob tube

open nacelle
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paradoxically, due to the lack of contention around their status, this means that quake 3/live should no longer be considered afps games

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conversely, halo infinite is an afps, but only after feb 2022

coarse ledge
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aren't u a railbot too?

slender meadow
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whats not wrong with rail

glad sundial
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I am yes

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Its my best weapon

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But it also kinda ruins the game

halcyon hemlock
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next afps should use 60dmg rail

slender meadow
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its worse in dbt tbh

fierce slate
haughty rover
coarse ledge
fierce slate
lament vortex
haughty rover
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what are arena shooters

haughty rover
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move fast, jump around, many body shots required to kill

glad sundial
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Apex is an arena shooter

haughty rover
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held back by a loot system

celest ridge
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no way you say apex is but not halo ce

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LOL

prime moon
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i think he joking

glad sundial
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Ofc im joking

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Lol

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Was a direct reply to the msg before

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He said fast movement, jumps and lots of body shots makes an afps

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So apex must be one

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I need a translator

prime moon
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Afps is any game with dying community but instead of trying to grow it they gatekeep it

wraith sundial
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personally i wouldnt take that if i were you , thats just me tho

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bro it a meme

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i was telling it to the guy you called boring

versed wyvern
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chat needs a wipe and reset

glad sundial
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If his definition was fine then apex legends is an afps too

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Do you agree

glad sundial
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Yes, action quake 2

glad sundial
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Check the kamicajin on youtube

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Its an aq2 video on one of my channels