health

[hollow spade]

Pepega

[torpid walrus]

That’s still pretty above average tbh

I think average is like 40-50

From what I remember

[tender flint]

@hollow spade I tested my audio reaction time, result is 120ms. My visual reaction time is 155ms.

[hollow spade]

I got 11 on visual memory

Pepega

@tender flint ok, do u have a dedicated sound card? Or what on board audio are u using

[tender flint]

@hollow spade Creative Sound Blaster Z

[hollow spade]

Ahhh

Do u think that’s why my audio RT is a lot worse?

Maybe on-board audio Realtek has latency

Or my brain sucks at processing sounds

[tender flint]

http://cognitivefun.net/test/16 test on this website, there was an another website but that was bad

[hollow spade]

I can’t

That website requires flash doesn’t it

What’s ur average on the other website

[tender flint]

https://playback.fm/audio-reaction-time on this website is 200 ms

[hollow spade]

Use ur space bar

[tender flint]

same

[hollow spade]

200ms?!

Jesus

So that website just sucks

[oak orbit]

VRT

[hollow spade]

No audio

[oak orbit]

Wtf

[hollow spade]

What’s urs Kosei

On that website

[hollow spade]

@tender flint ok on that website i get like 90ms

[oak orbit]

Idk

Cant be bothered to care about something so miniscule

[hollow spade]

wtf my M1 Click vs my keyboard delay click, my keyboard is like WAYY better

😠 gr i want it other way around ree

[torpid walrus]

What is the consensus on caffeine here out of curiosity

I’m 16 and have never had caffeine

For no particular reason just never wanted to

[reef elbow]

consensus in terms of what?

its just a stimulant drug

[limpid finch]

there's benefits of using caffeine and then there's also the opposite

doesn't really matter if you've never touched it i'm assuming

[reef elbow]

its easy to end up being dependant on it

[limpid finch]

yea

especially if you've never had it

a really small dose will prob feel like crack

[oak orbit]

Ahh

Caffeine was good when it actually felt like it was doing something

If you're taking it cause you are tired..

That should be worked around with a proper diet and good sleep

[limpid finch]

and moderation

is always a thin

g

[tulip perch]

Get some discipline and stick to one cup a day.
It also helps you build a routine in the morning, which straight up is a good habit to wake up at a set time.

I find that drinking a cup in the morning doesn't make me want to drink more. Since the effect of it simply blends into me waking up normally.
Instead of drinking it late in the evening to stay awake.

Which you shouldn't do, that's where the "addiction" starts

[hollow spade]

U can do small amount of caffeine one day and see what happens

[violet arch]

GG @hollow spade, you just advanced to level 11 !

[idle cairn]

HOW TO STOP SHAKY HAND/ARM

[violet swan]

when you're tracking specifically or just overall?

[idle cairn]

tracking usually

like I swear to god everytime I dont shake I get pb

its insane

[hollow spade]

Connor sameeeee

[loud plover]

Relax, loosen your grip, do not tense too hard while holding the mouse

[hollow spade]

I can’t do that tho without having to focus my attention on all that

[loud plover]

If that's what you need to do, then better start now than any other time

You don't need to play a difficult scenario, try midrange/close long strafes invincible. Just focus on having a solid grip, but one that's not actively tensed up on the mouse. Try to be somewhere in the middle, this could also be a reason why you're fingers cramp up, @hollow spade

Focus on smoothness

If you want to see just how different it is to have a looser grip on your mouse, bind your fire key to something on the keyboard like spacebar instead of LMB, and just watch yourself

[hollow spade]

@loud plover yea that binding fire key to a diff key is OP as fuck

[loud plover]

Hahahaha yess

[hollow spade]

I aim 10x better no cap

Why do people even use M1?

[rose gale]

I dont feel lile my excersise is doing anything

And im not doing it wrong I have looked at videos and have made sure I'm doing them right

And its been 3 months and i havent felt anything different

[loud plover]

Elaborate on your regiment

[tulip perch]

what excercise and not doing anything in what regard

[gritty crest]

@loud plover question thou how do you relax a claw grip

@hollow spade osu players knew

[loud plover]

@gritty crest Just like any other grip, mate

You hold the mouse more lightly, same form, just not pressing down on it full force with every finger

Your fingers can still be curled, it's your wrist that's gonna be relaxed

Also, there is literally a variation of claw called relaxed claw, where your fingers aren't as super curled up, and there's a bit of palm contact. Ones I've seen were the pinky and thumb knuckles making contact with the mouse

[hollow spade]

I’m so confused now why people even use Mouse buttons

😂

[idle cairn]

Mechanic heavy games

Dont have time/is a pain to hold down a key the entire time

[hollow spade]

Yea but in kovaaks tracking

[tulip perch]

Because in other games you use your mouse to shoot. So you should also do it in your training.

Unless you only want highscores disregarding improving your actual abilities then it's ofc a good choice

[gritty crest]

@hollow spade bhping

[plain solstice]

omg

i need help with my arm

when im tracking for like 2mins

i think my arm is going to fall off

[nimble cipher]

Probably too low sens

[violet swan]

like where the forearm

[dapper solar]

hi kasper

[violet swan]

hi snickers 🙂

[dapper solar]

🙂

[violet swan]

Its rice and chicken time bois

[chrome kiln]

Where is that document for stretching your hand and everything?

[oak orbit]

pinned

[chrome kiln]

I started to get elbow/wrist pain yesterday so I let it rest over night and it seems fine now

so I am scared and hopefully stretching will help this out

[hollow spade]

Is there any health advice I can get to reduce Fatique in the arm/hand/wrist

And shaking

[loud plover]

Travis I believe I recommended this to you earlier. Forgive me if it was someone else, but best thing is to first make sure you're not gripping your mouse too tightly and applying too much stress on your hands and wrist. Have a comfortable, firm grip, but where you don't have to actively tense anything.

Make sure you're giving yourself breaks to stretch in between sessions, preferably not making any continuous seated session with a mouse in your hand over an hour.

Next, rest.

@chrome kiln This may help you as well. Resting and giving any joint that is the subject of abnormal pain is highly, highly recommended. So good on you for that. If the pain resurfaces, rest for a bit longer than a day. Rest rest rest, it's very important. Sleep adequately, it's more important than you think in both the long AND short term. Recover by stretching again, there are useful stretching methods pinned in this channel, try them out.

Think of yourself as a professional gymnast. Imagine how much wrist flexibility these people have. Any good, consistent gymnast, will have joints of steel, because of how disciplined they are at taking care of them. In the long term, this has fantastic implementations on your health, and I highly advise treating yourself as such gymnasts, because the stretches are there, it's a matter of who does them with the most diligence that matters

[worthy cloud]

Also dont just think about relaxing your hand and wrist

I used to tense my shoulder a lot while playing

[violet swan]

shoulder area is my biggest problem right now,

[zinc socket]

my shoulder is on fire after like an hour or two but it doesnt feel like its gonna cause an injury it just feels like ive worked out

[violet arch]

GG @zinc socket, you just advanced to level 1 !

[loud plover]

That's a good point

[oak orbit]

Yea, I think I use to tense my shoulder the most out of everything

It's difficult to stop tensing while aiming especially in Kovaaks since it's easy to just keep playing

I had to take time to actively think about not tensing my hand/arm while playing and even now I'll notice myself tensing but it became easier to stop

If your hand/arm is in pain, along with stretching, I recommend playing a scene for maybe 5 mins and take like a 1 min break

No point in over playing, the game will still be there

[hollow spade]

I guess I can’t play kovaaks as much anymore if that’s the cause of the arm pain :/

[hollow spade]

Is sleep very important for aiming / reaction time as a whole?

If so then I have work to do

[oak orbit]

Sleep overall is very important

So yeah

[hollow spade]

Dam I get like 5 hours of sleep

[loud plover]

Absolutely vital

It is one of the most important things for your health

Also, Travis, if you rest and prioritise recovery, and start stretching and taking care of how you hold your mouse, you won't have to worry about not being able to play once you come back to kovaaks

[oak orbit]

We should have a list of shoulder stretches pinned as well to go along with Kastors guide

[loud plover]

There is one YouTube video that I've used for a while.

Keep in mind the shoulder is more of a "release" rather than a stretch, so using things like a ball or a foam roller to manually roll the entirety of your scapular area is a great idea

[violet swan]

If anyone notices numbness in their pinkie/ringfinger area try these stretches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJYubK6ZOxw

[worthy cloud]

PVC core foam roller helps a lot for my back

[uncut arrow]

what should i do to help my eyes rest

they really hurt rn

[violet swan]

@uncut arrow sleep ?

lol

[uncut arrow]

I drank too much coffee so i cant do it at least in next 2 hours

[violet arch]

GG @uncut arrow, you just advanced to level 3 !

[zealous void]

sleep

[long wadi]

just sleep

[tender flint]

Lutein and Zeaxanthin personal experiences: Much better vision, eye fatigue reduced much, my eyes are much more responsive to fast movements, I can spot little details easier. I use Marigold extract powder with 20% Lutein and 2% Zeaxanthin in it. Dosage: I use 50mg. I know vrt doesn't really matter but it's great to see my vrt got better, I didn't use blueberries on this test.

[violet swan]

Some people here rly need to think before they ask smth

[strong mason]

@tender flint any published studies to support this? Give me some reading

[hollow spade]

Did anyone try INDEZONE

[tender flint]

@strong mason I only wrote down my personal experiences but maybe this helps: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6164534/

[strong mason]

Great thank you

[torpid walrus]

Interesting

Always thought about taking them cuz I have horrible eyesight

-6 in contacts lol

And apparently most of family has macular degeneration

[hollow spade]

U should prob try em then if they pose no great risk to u.

[torpid walrus]

What risk would they cause

[hollow spade]

Do research

I don’t see harm in trying them to see if they help you

I mean rn my Quality of life is at a all time low because I can’t focus on anything so I’m willing to do anything , everything so far hasn’t helped....

[worthy cloud]

my eyes have been feeling worse lately

I should look into this

[hollow spade]

@worthy cloud

[worthy cloud]

[uncut arrow]

is that ok that my reaction time is inconsistent?

like i have 170-190

and even 200 sometimes

[arctic moat]

I think we should stop posting VRT in health-channel as it's not really related

If we're talking about ways to boost it then it is, but only healthy / natural ways that are backed up by science

Not per se personal experience

@uncut arrow That's normal, it depends on proper sleep, exercise and nutrition

[uncut arrow]

ah ok

is there any nutrition guide or i should seek for it via the internet

cuz i m eating some garbage usually

[arctic moat]

We don't have an actual nutrition guide as there's plenty of them available on the internet we do however have some resources that link to food that's good for the brain

Check pins and then all the way in the bottom 'Related resources': Health & Nutrition

[uncut arrow]

ok thanks <3

[uncut arrow]

should i avoid drinking soda ?

like coke and schweppers

or it s not that bad to drink it once a week for example

[oak rapids]

Not bad once a week if you don’t consume much sugar besides that

Generally the recommendation is 50g? ish? For a day

Take this with a grain of salt

[uncut arrow]

i m also addicted to coke so i cant live without it

but besides coke i am not consuming that much sugar

and can i consume honey instead

[oak rapids]

Also it shouldn’t make a difference if you drink 200g a day go 4 days without or drink the 50g every day

I personally don’t know about that

[jolly kiln]

a can of coke is something like 40g of sugar. Recommendation varies by country but in the UK it's 30g.
https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/how-does-sugar-in-our-diet-affect-our-health/

[novel whale]

bro that will cause you diabetes lmao

[oak orbit]

Shouldn't be drinking coke at all, especially that much

Drinking 1 every now and then is fine but in general that's awful to drink

[uncut arrow]

ah

idk

i m like

loosing my mind

and buying 2l can

and drinking it in 20 mins

and then like

sh1t

why

[jolly kiln]

Cut all refined sugar from your diet for a month and you won't want to go back. You've probably got so used to a high sugar diet that you don't even notice it anymore.

[violet arch]

GG @jolly kiln, you just advanced to level 2 !

[uncut arrow]

seems like u r right because i havent drunk coke for a week now and i dont really want it atm but still some devil inside me wants that delicious drink

[oak rapids]

That’s really true. Personally didn’t get really any sugar for a long time and now I rarely even get the feeling to buy something sweet

Sparkling water is imo a good replacement btw

[hollow spade]

water makes ur brain process faster right , on google it says that as first answer

[torpid walrus]

I used to also consume high amts of sugar

But after like a week of not doing so

I literally stopped completely lol

I still have shitty reaction time tho lol

My verbal memory is rediculously high though for some reason :p

[hollow spade]

@torpid walrus how high

[torpid walrus]

like 80mg lol

soda and shit

[hollow spade]

No no

What is ur verbal memory scor

Score

[torpid walrus]

Average like 120ish lol

[hollow spade]

On what test

[torpid walrus]

Verbs memory

[violet arch]

GG @torpid walrus, you just advanced to level 3 !

[hollow spade]

hm i got 62

[torpid walrus]

idk y im good at it lol

[violet swan]

anyone here ever done keta ?

[long wadi]

@ hamster

[bold crane]

Keta or keto?

Anyone know any good alternatives to Coffee for caffeine that doesn’t have a billion grams of sugar?

[hollow spade]

The 1 day I don’t take my prescribed Adderall I can focus more, what the fuck.

[novel whale]

Did keto

Lost 15 kg

Felt good

And never did it again not healthy long term

[warm loom]

@jolly kiln wait a can of coke is seriously 40g of sugar?

that's wild

a pint of ben and jerrys is like 50g

so what you're saying is eating a pint of ben and jerrys is a better use of my time

[jolly kiln]

@warm loom 39 grams, https://www.coca-colacompany.com/faqs/how-much-sugar-is-in-coca-cola

it's insane.

[edgy vortex]

I hate this meme.

[warm loom]

i just find that insane. its almost the same amount of sugar that is in a whole pint of ice cream

in something you can drink in a few minutes

[calm sleet]

Bro this channel is actually just sparky kids talking about amphet I’m a prophet

I got pinged in here and then someone deleted it :/

[jolly wraith]

if u need amphet u suck

@past yarrow u suck

[hollow spade]

Adderall makes me worse why do people take this shit

[calm sleet]

Because u all don’t wanna do ur homework and tap ur leg in class and ur like

Bro I think I have adhd

[limpid finch]

i have anxiety leg

[calm sleet]

U get the pass cuz ur cute

[torpid walrus]

ADHD is like asthma

90% of people that have it are self proclaimed lol

And OCD

[long wadi]

i have asthma diagnosed by doctor

[calm sleet]

I think ocd is a lot more misunderstood sadly

Ye I have asthma too, shame I don’t get a meth script for it

[torpid walrus]

Lotta fat ppl think they have asthma

[calm sleet]

They just fat bro don’t care

[chrome kiln]

they are fat because they don't work out, because they don't run or workout their lungs/heart is bad

which is why they think they have asthma

[long wadi]

l https://gyazo.com/391629abaec47d3722ab97efd4f14d7b

rlyl healthy gamer

[grand sundial]

I think its more genetic than anything

ive been working out and lost weight, eating healthy and my reaction speed it still high

[torpid walrus]

Weird theory

But like

What if as you learn bot reading in games your VRT decreases

Like as you play fast strafe scenarios

Where bot reading is important

Your brain

Learns to be faster at reacting

[hollow spade]

good sleep+drink alot of water+eat healthy+exercise=good brain=good vrt

[chrome kiln]

or just do coke

faster improvements

[jade mortar]

Not sure how amphets actually impact aim but my Overwatch playstyle in scrims completely changed as shotcalling and communication in general was hard to balance with high doses, making me just invest more in mechanics. Now I make sure my doses are minimal or that by scrims there's minimal effect. Guess I could see how much my KovaaK's performance changes if I don't take it but I don't really care. Didn't get put on it for KovaaK's so I won't guilt myself off it for KovaaK's.

[violet arch]

GG @jade mortar, you just advanced to level 9 !

[jade mortar]

Anyway not really what I care about just wanna keep my wrist healthy because I've been doing KovaaK's a month and plan on doing it a lot longer, what do I do for my wrist? I play on average about 4 hours a day and I used to take breaks but there's been less of those.

I do the stretches PDF from announcements and it helps, do I just need a brace? Pain isn't very bad now so I'd like to nip it in the bud before I have to cut hours and days

I don't usually do the mobility routine though my bones don't feel super comfortable popping with some of them

Also idk anything about wrist braces if there's somethings I should look out for? Just wear it when I sleep? I'm kinda retarded

[uncut arrow]

Are u taking amphetamine?

It s illegal in my country lol

[jade mortar]

@uncut arrow Yeah I am on adderall it's prescribed in US for ADHD but I hear we prescribe it a lot compared to other countries, but I don't really know anything

[arctic moat]

If you are having wrist issues right now and you did proper stretches maybe get Physiotherapy

You may have already got permanent injury and not know about it and only making it worse

[jade mortar]

[cursive hemlock]

@torpid walrus It improves your vrt a bit

[upper copper]

Anyone here fasted before?

[loud plover]

Yes

[upper copper]

any tips / advice? @loud plover

[novel whale]

there's nothing really much? just start it and don't eat calories and drink water

if you want to do IF, the usual 16/8

drink coffee for energy

[loud plover]

Fasting intermittently, whether that be 16 hours a day without food, 8 hours with, or just one/two days a week with no food, really depends on you. Some people use the 8 hour window as an excuse to eat whatever they want, justifying it for themselves by saying "Hey, I haven't eaten for 16 hours, I'll be fine". Some people, on the flipside, use this newfound change to more consciously monitor what they eat.

Also depends on what you're fasting for. But my advice would be to take it slow, don't jump into something like this without somewhat of a goal in mind. If you do decide on it, say to lose fat, then you should know that cutting out processed foods, mainly sugars, substituting them with healthier alternatives, sleeping well, and making sure you're distributing your nutritionally sound meals evenly throughout the day, will do the trick for you. However, if you'd still like to do it, then you will notice some tiredness at first, and then it might make you feel more energetic

Try different variations to see what you prefer. For instance, the 16/8 (16 hour fasted, 8 eating), 5:2 (5 days eating, 2 days fasted [the two days don't need to be consecutive]), every other day, etc... There's really a lot, so before you do it, just figure out why

The method I used was 16/8 every single day. While eating relatively healthy, I lost fat, became more energetic, and started to appreciate my meals more without overindulging

[upper copper]

Ah okay, thank you

<3 @loud plover @novel whale

[loud plover]

Absolutely 😄 If there are any of the more specific details you need help with, please ask

[nimble cipher]

intermittent fasting

seems

weird for sports

or just fasting in general

[loud plover]

It's a double-edged blade for sure, seems to yield varying results for many

Some say it helps burn fat, others claim it also might raise the potential for muscle burning

Some believe it gives them more energy, and others the opposite

[nimble cipher]

i watched a vid on how pros get ready for a game

they said that most players are surprised how much they have to eat

[loud plover]

Well that's a different story, I'd say

If I were a pro, I also don't think I would intermittently fast

You seen them pro strongmen?

[nimble cipher]

yea

[loud plover]

Brian Shaw eats around 12,000 calories daily

[nimble cipher]

jesus

[loud plover]

Crazy

[nimble cipher]

that almost seems like a burden

[loud plover]

It IS

[nimble cipher]

to have to eat that much

[loud plover]

In his eating videos he constantly reminds the viewer that, for him, eating is in fact the most difficult part of being a strongman

[nimble cipher]

expensive too

[loud plover]

You're absolutely right

[novel whale]

depends on what profession

if it's something that burns a lot of calories then obviously IF won't work

[trail lantern]

Forearm pain after aiming?

why is this and how to fix this

[trail lantern]

If anyone knows help pls ^^

[worthy cloud]

I spend too much time watching strongman content

I love it

I kinda want to compete one day

I bet I'd be good at log but everything else would be hard

[nimble cipher]

Idk if I'd wanna be that

Strong

Too much for me

[violet swan]

Anyone got any tips to improve not raging

[oak rapids]

Enjoy the grind

[loud plover]

@trail lantern Do you find yourself putting tension when holding your mouse? So you hold it a little too tight?

How is your arm position?

Relative to the desk

Do you stretch your forearms? Do you play for a couple hours on end consecutively?

[worthy cloud]

I just tried monitoring my heartrate during a match of cs

peaked at 144bpm

[dense rose]

nervous boi

[worthy cloud]

it was average in the 80s though

wonder what'd look like for a match that actually mattered for something

[trail lantern]

@loud plover i stretch alot or try to because of this and i might be holding my mouse a little tight

could it be that my mouse is too small?

arm position and desk should be fine, i got a new adjustable table yesterday

[worthy cloud]

mouse too small can cause cramps

[trail lantern]

okay

i got a model o-

[worthy cloud]

try to remember to keep your grip from squeezing too hard while you play

and if it starts to hurt worse try taking a day off

[trail lantern]

yeah but i feel really uncomfortable and cant really aim well

[worthy cloud]

hm

[trail lantern]

if i hold it too light

[worthy cloud]

maybe need a bigger mouse then

[trail lantern]

could be

[worthy cloud]

personally I can't comfortably hold the model o-

but I have wide hands

[trail lantern]

pains i know i get with this model o- is pain on thumb and pinky

sometimes

[worthy cloud]

could be too narrow then

[loud plover]

@trail lantern Kevin makes some good points. Your mouse and mouse grip seem to be what we can localise the issue too, seeing as you're stretching and have an adjustable table (great choice btw). Could you describe the way you grip your mouse? Sometimes squeezing too tight with fingers is bad, yet you don't need to let go of the mouse to get rid of that pain. A firm, but relaxed grip is what we're looking for

I made a switch from full, extreme claw, to relaxed claw/fingertip hybrid, and I went from instant cramps to almost none at all

But if your hands feel way too large for the mouse, then don't try to put yourself at constant discomfort, find something good that's universally agreed upon, and that suits YOU, not anybody else

@worthy cloud likewise hahaha. Dude it's addictive. I'm a big fan of the world's strongest man series with Shaw, Hall, Oberst, and Best

[trail lantern]

@loud plover I think i have a claw grip

but

it is not an extreme claw

something like that

[loud plover]

Gonna need some more reviews, because I am also not sure what that is

Ultimately, if changing your grip to something more comfortable isn't an option, maybe it truly is the mouse

[trail lantern]

I dont feel comfy with any other grip

aiming

only with "claw"

Before i bought this mouse i chekced that my hand would fit this

i guess it didint

[jolly kiln]

You could try to adjust the amount of pressure you're using first. also add in micro breaks. i.e. every few minutes take a 30-45 second break, especially if you're doing lots of tracking.

[trail lantern]

@jolly kiln Ill try to find as comfy amount of pressure as i can

also i try to do a lil stretch every time i can

[jolly kiln]

@trail lantern personally I've been trying to focus on only putting pressure on with my index finger and then relaxing the rest of my hand. When I'm doing tracking scenarios I usually take a 10-15 second break after each challenge run. holding down m1 all the time is sort of un-natural when you compare it to what you'd usually do in game. For most people in a game like quake they're only really holding m1 for around 45 seconds per 10 minute game.

[trail lantern]

okay

Ill have to try to remove pressure from my pinky to somewhere else

that might help

[arctic moat]

@violet swan #resources mindset and attitude section will help you

to avoid raging

[arctic moat]

@mortal marsh please post in appropriate channel (deleted your post)

[frank dragon]

Does keeping your hand in a static position unhealthy?

Find that my finger joints and wrist aches after a 20 minute targetswitch session

Like a lot a lot

[tulip perch]

Generally keeping your hand still is not hurtful.
You sleep laying still after all.
It is the tention you are using while aiming for so long, that hurts your joints.
I wouldn't practice for 20 minutes straight with no breaks anyways. Fatigue and the mentioned strain on joints and tendons negatively impact your performance.

[frank dragon]

I dont feel it after I take my hand off the mouse

Then it feels like hell

And I cant move my joints

[hollow spade]

how 2 not be procastinator ??

[coarse vault]

@trail lantern u need a rat, not a mouse

I have the same issue, the bigger divina feels fine

[trail lantern]

but i love small mice 😂

[loud plover]

'A rat' hahaha

[worthy cloud]

using the smallest mouse you comfortably can is a good idea I think

[trail lantern]

i might just steal my brothers model o

but he doesnt have ascended cable so idk

im in love with my ascended cable 😄

[nimble cipher]

I don't get why I don't feel chest excercises later

Like

I just did 4 sets of pec fly

4 sets of bench press

4 sets of elaveted bench press

And I don't feel it like an hour later

[violet swan]

Maybe the next day you will feel it not sure though

[violet arch]

GG @violet swan, you just advanced to level 9 !

[oak orbit]

Yeah, you're not going to be sore right after

It will take a day or two

[solar marten]

its possible youll wake up tomorrow and it will be really sore

yea

[summer sigil]

First day you don't feel anything when you do it

Second day it gets bad

Third day is the real pain

[hollow spade]

Is being very skinny arm/wrist/hand meta? Or having some muscle so the mouse is easier to move yet you have a heavier arm

[nimble cipher]

Idk why you'd wanna be a stick

But it doesn't really matter

[hollow spade]

Well currently my arm is a stick

my reflexs / vrt is so much better after exercise

[violet arch]

GG @hollow spade, you just advanced to level 14 !

[loud plover]

@nimble cipher Very normal

Mind-muscle connection to many people suffers in the pectoralis muscles

It's hard enough to feel your chest contracting during a workout, let alone the soreness that follows

Keep at it, go slow, lower the weight, feel it burn, and thus establish this mind-muscle connection. It'll make every set and rep you perform afterwards feel like it's doing something, especially around the last few reps

But you will feel sore eventually, just trust the process

[violet swan]

Also building muscle helps prevent injury

So you can train longer/more consistently

[opaque hearth]

stop elevated bench press btw

it stresses more deltoides than chest

[worthy cloud]

If you mean incline bench

It does use pecs primarily

If you have proper form

Front delts come in when you lose tightness in your upper back

Or you flare elbows too much

[gritty crest]

what do you guys think of grounding mats

do you think they actually help

[loud plover]

Two, poorly conducted studies, support it. There don't seem to be any immediate harms. One interviewee swears by them to have improved his stress levels and REM sleep

[hollow spade]

is L-Theanine with adderall a good idea

[loud plover]

@hollow spade Depends on what you're taking them for

[hollow spade]

the adderall for adhd, ltheanine for anixety

[arctic moat]

Can you stop mentioning adderall all the time

I get it's prescribed, but it's not necessary to mention it so often

[trail lantern]

Sharp pain on left side of wrist after like 15 min of non stop aiming?

[arctic moat]

Prolly good idea to stop

Playing

[oblique breach]

I mean if you have a question about your prescription wouldnt it just be better to check with your doctor?

[arctic moat]

Yeah exactly

[hollow spade]

@arctic moat sorry i wont again, just thought it was important infomation as some meds together cause bad results in some cases.

[arctic moat]

L-theanine is naturally in green tea

In cases with prescribed drugs, I would suggest asking your doctor

Safest way of collecting correct information

@hollow spade

[hollow spade]

[dusk jay]

Do you guys eat foods that help cognition?

[violet swan]

is there anything i can do to better my vrt besides not eating industrial/home sugar

[dusk jay]

Vrt= visual reaction time?

[violet swan]

yeah

@violet swan

[dusk jay]

What im doing is eating blueberries wich have flavonoids wich are proven to help with reaction time. Also foods high in nitrates(if thats how its spelled) help with blood flow to the brain

Broccoli

And spinach

[violet swan]

ty

[dusk jay]

Have shit ton of nitrates

Also green tea helps reaction time if you didnt get enough sleep

But if you slept well it won't (if i remember correctly)

Also cardio will improve overall cognition

[violet swan]

ok ty alot

[dusk jay]

Waiy how its called fitnes.?

Or some shit like that

[violet arch]

GG @dusk jay, you just advanced to level 1 !

[dusk jay]

Aerobic exercise

Yeah , that one

There was some study i read about it

Improves cognitive function

[violet swan]

ty

[dusk jay]

Rhubarb

That one find it and eat plenty

Has the highest amount of nitrates

= better blood flow to the brain

[violet swan]

ty alot u know a lot lmao

[dusk jay]

And i also eat each morning beetroot

[violet swan]

take it with a grain of salt tho @violet swan

[dusk jay]

That one is healthy as fuck

Its all from studies

Done

[violet swan]

ik

@violet swan how do you mean that

☑️ Try to get advice only from people with the health role
▫️ Others may give good advice (but take it with a grain of salt)
▫️ Check if people have the health role by clicking on their name
▫️ If someone gives bad advice / trolls make sure to report it to moderators (so we can get it sorted: e.g. channel ban / mute etc.)
@arctic moat

and even then

no one in here is a trusted source

as we are all just random people on the internet

[dusk jay]

https://youtu.be/T41XDGqpc_E

[violet swan]

oh

[dusk jay]

Btw im quoting this video

[violet swan]

ty @violet swan

i mean you obvsly cant rly hurt yourself by eating some foods nothing dangerous about trying out a diet someone recommends

but

im just saying in general, you shouldnt be to trusting

ok ty

but hes providing good information

the blueberry stuff is true to my knowledge

and sport and being fit

is also helpful with vrt

[dusk jay]

Broccoli too

Look at faker the lol god eating broccoli on stage

Leage of legends guy

[grave temple]

Is this a place for mental health as well

[violet swan]

i mean if its actually helpful with bloodflow

its still questionable if it will help with vrt

@grave temple place for everything

[dusk jay]

Thats mostly with cognition in general

[grave temple]

Ok

Yeah blueberries are pretty good

[dusk jay]

But you want the whole package as an gamer

[violet swan]

brokoli is nice tho

in a lot of body building diets too

healthy in general

[grave temple]

Doritos and gfuel takes 100ms off ur vrt

[violet swan]

i eat that aswell

[dusk jay]

I been trying to find rhubarb for weeks and cant find cus its winter time (

That is the best shit ever in terms of blood flow

Also stay away from sugar

[novel whale]

Too much work chocolate will do the trick

[dusk jay]

Fuck that

[novel whale]

[dusk jay]

Fuck anything that has sugat

[novel whale]

U can have no sugar lol

[dusk jay]

Well fruits and natural occurring sugars yes

But not the shit they are putting in man made foods

Thats poison

I find that bananas are a nice sweet meal if you have cravings for sweets

[violet arch]

GG @dusk jay, you just advanced to level 2 !

[dusk jay]

And they have flavonoids too

Ive never seen chocolate with no added sugar

[novel whale]

Cba with any diets

[dusk jay]

I would buy if id seen

[novel whale]

I just eat whatever

[violet swan]

chocolate without sugar

doesnt work

[novel whale]

Too much planning and work

Basically in the kitchen 24/7

[dusk jay]

Lol noe

Thats not how its like for me

Im in the kitchen like 30 mins max a day

[violet swan]

excuses

[dusk jay]

I eat to live so i dont cook my food in fancy ways and extra delicious with complicated recipies

I straight up have 2 boiled beetroots when i wake up

[violet swan]

shit doesnt need to look fancy

you just need to eat it

[dusk jay]

Not the tastiest

[novel whale]

Wdym chocolate w/o sugar doesn't work

[dusk jay]

But if its a bit cold from the fridge its eatable

[violet swan]

@dusk jay when i go for protein intake i dont have an issue with eating a can of tuna

idc

doesnt taste or look great

but it works

[dusk jay]

I used to add some babanas and 2 raw egs(from my own chikens) and some milk and mix it all up and drink it

[arctic moat]

@violet swan I mean there is a clear difference between people who have absolutely no clue what they're talking about and people who've researched

[violet swan]

ik

im not criticising anyone

but i would always ask for a source myself

[dusk jay]

Never cheap out on food guys alway eat plenty and eat the healthy food, dont eat junk or sweets or some other unhealthy food. It will change your life, if you eat good food and always have plenty, do sport and sleep enough + have a nice challenging goal in your life to wich you can work every day you are gonna have a good quality of life

If youre young you basicly get a free pass to eat shit for a while

After 25 if you keep up the habbit you will slowly decline

[violet swan]

nah imma join the 27 club

anyways

[novel whale]

< bunch of processed foods everyday

I was no carbs and sugar for 4 days

[dusk jay]

How old r u?

[violet swan]

no carbs

is so stupid

like why

[novel whale]

Xant stop the craving and went for like 106 amt of sugar

[dusk jay]

How old ?

[novel whale]

20

[dusk jay]

Enjoy it a few more years

You will pay for it tho, cause and effect

In case you guys didnt notice everything works in cause and effect

[novel whale]

Nah i go to my doc every year nothing troublesome

[dusk jay]

Yeah dude cus youre 20

Lmao

And you can keep eating like this amd be 35

And doctor will say youre fine

[novel whale]

Good

[dusk jay]

But like you are not gonna be at the same level with someone who has been taking care of himself

[novel whale]

Same level of what

[dusk jay]

Aiming skill since this is what we are here

[novel whale]

Ye i guess

[violet swan]

in other words

git gud

[dusk jay]

Dont you like sport dude?

At 20 you should be blasting with energy

[novel whale]

I did for most od my life

[violet arch]

GG @novel whale, you just advanced to level 12 !

[novel whale]

I played basketball

[dusk jay]

When i was 20 i used to go to the gym 5 days a week

Apend 1h30 mins each time

Phew i was blasting with energy

It just feels great to have a challange and go work at it and get results

[violet arch]

GG @dusk jay, you just advanced to level 3 !

[dusk jay]

Sport is awesome

[novel whale]

Never played sports again after my head injury

Hell nah

[dusk jay]

You dont jave to play

Just challange yourself to see how much you can improve at running

Or pushups

Or see how much strong you can become

[violet swan]

body definition

get the girls

[novel whale]

Ye sure when i'm 40+ (when life starts)

[dusk jay]

Oof

[gritty crest]

it is true that taping your mouth increasing performance

nasal breathing

[novel whale]

U can just close ur mouth???

Breathing in general increases performance

[red tartan]

what are some ways to work on diet?

[violet arch]

GG @red tartan, you just advanced to level 1 !

[red tartan]

i struggle to eat due to my meds and was curious if anyone has any experience with a similar situation

[loud plover]

This is something I cannot say I have much experience with. However, if your appetite is being suppressed by certain medication, first identify what these meds are for, then ask the doctor who prescribed them to you for their recommendation on mechanisms that can offset this suppression

Is your main concern increasing the amount of calories you eat in a day? So you feel like you're eating too little? Or is it WHAT you eat that's the problem? I just assumed the former judging by your wording

[red tartan]

mainly just, how much I guess?
idk, he wants me to gain a few pounds by april and i've lost a few since then
he recommended like ice cream smoothies and stuff if I'm not hungry for lunch to at least have something and i've bought some more "fat" snacks I like like pistachios, nuts, hummus, etc

avocado idk

just in general like any other tips with that sort of thing, ik it's a very specificthingy or whatever and i am working on it but figured no harm in asking and seeing if anyone has any personal like advice yknow

[crude agate]

I'm the same way. I go the whole day without eating until 7pm sometimes. Overall I prefer drinking instead of eating, so smoothies are nice. You could try Soylent too.

[junior geyser]

How much youre eating is also dependent on how active u are so if u have some time in between work/the aim grind/whatever working out running/walking or even just stretching are good options

[dusk jay]

http://medind.nic.in/jaw/t14/i2/jawt14i2p119.pdf

In the present study, we found that VRT was less after
practice for both simple and choice VRT tasks which
means that reaction time decreases after practice. This
is in parallel with previous studies concluding that a
practice decreases reaction time.[10,11]
Several possible mechanisms have been described
for this. People can acquire new motor skills and
improve them with practice.[12] Learning of motor
skill practice influenced on information processing.[10]
With repetition of motion, person’s conscious effort
is decreased and the motion becomes more and more
automatic.[13] Motor circuits of basal ganglia play a key
role in the automatic execution of motor tasks.[14]
It was concluded in other study that mental practice
influences the learning of cognitive activities.[15]

[stoic breach]

After 25 if you keep up the habbit you will slowly decline
@dusk jay amen to that. Having to put in a lot more effort to maintain what was free before 25

Been working on sleep quality this week and its having a huge effect on every other aspect of life. Don't underestimate good sleep or sacrifice it to game a bit more.

[worthy cloud]

it can be

[dusk jay]

with coffe its like what goes up has to come down

better to put in the effort and slowly build the mental abilities you desire

wait.. if ur talking caffeine pills i dont know , if u mean coffee i know that coffee has a comedown

i myself just do the work and there seem to appear mental abilities that become stronger over time, i occasionaly drink coffee if i slept bad and i still wanna work on my skill.

for those meditating , try out visualisation meditation instead of the breathing technique, google it out

but not the nonsense with visualise urself on a beach and that stupid shit

vajrayana i think deals with visualisation practice

for gaming you dont want to still the mind basicly

you want your mind to be activated and work at the highest level it can work

just try it out for like 3 months

deity visualisation is also anoather name for it

https://books.google.ro/books?id=e1ZxmnsIEIQC&lpg=PP1&dq="the+dalai+lama+at+m.i.t."+"imagery+and+visualization"&pg=PA67&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q="the dalai lama at m.i.t." "imagery and visualization"&f=false

[oak orbit]

Ye, caffeine can help performance but it's not guaranteed and obviously not needed

[oak rapids]

I personally drink coffee every morning and after I get home haven’t had any problems with that

[craggy shuttle]

Honestly caffeine makes my aim a little shaky and anxious

[arctic moat]

Then don't take it

[marble kayak]

Lower your caffeine dose, or drink less coffee until the shake isn’t apparent

[loud plover]

Remember that holding a mouse and moving it are not physiologically impossible or challenging for a normal human. You don't need supplementation to game.

More importantly, I'd say, is the degree of focus and organic discipline you show to not only train hard, but smart as well

[tulip perch]

Coffein is an additive. You don't need it to be healthy.
Try taking Omega 3 and stuff like that instead which is actually good for ya brainz

Tried drinking coffee every day for a month or so.
Bad sleep and no measurable gain in performance

Green tea instead was much better I think. Need to test for longer though.

[novel whale]

well for improved retention caffeine is taken after a mental task and not before and that's just your anecdote

in moderation caffeine is still healthy

[loud plover]

Emphasis on moderation

[novel whale]

uhh twice a week or something? or on important occasions

i mean why would people sleep on its proven long term mental benefits

and taking the recommended dosage i mean people who usually get harmful effects are those who exceed their dosage

dunno why even do that

[arctic moat]

yeah if you just take it every now and then it's fine

[frank dragon]

I have forearm pain

Anyways to relive it?

[violet swan]

do stretches ig

[worthy cloud]

Depends on what kind of pain

Stretch, rest, ice, heat, massage

All might help

[worthy cloud]

Depends on what kind of pain and if you're pushing with a safe wrist angle or not

Itd be best to ask a doctor though if you're able

[jovial violet]

ok so i have been getting wrist pain recently, started doing stretches etc a couple weeks ago and my pain in general have been getting lower. But now my issue is my wrist placement when playing.

my wrist always ends up bending to the right cause thats my "deafult" position, i've played like this my entire life but now that it hurts i cant 100% focus when my wrist is like this

no matter how much i try to change my wrist i always end up in the same placement after a couple minutes

anything i can do to fix my default wrist placement that isnt just focusing on how i place my wrist

cant focus on games if thats all i think about

:/

even if i try to switch my arm placement i end up like this

[arctic moat]

Damn you taught yourself a very bad habit and you have to consciously work on fixing it

I actually recommend visiting a physiotherapist or any other specialist that can help you with providing exercises to fix this particular case

Because you've been attempting to fix already + do exercises, so this seems like a very good reason to visit a physiotherapist

Unless @reef elbow knows some things you can do

[jovial violet]

ok i recorded and analyzed my arm/wrist movement while playing ow and i think i may have found (one of) the reason(s)

whenever i flick to the right i use my wrist, and whenever i flick to the left i use my arm

i dont know when or how

this happened

/started happening

still need to work on where i have my default position

definitely not 100% that

[reef elbow]

@jovial violet I'd tell you to go see a physiotherapist yeah. Could be getting used to that position caused some muscles on one side to be tighter and weaker on the other, but it's hard for me to tell from here, tell you what to do and see how you evolve

[jovial violet]

alright thank you

[jovial violet]

i'll try fixing it myself for about a week, and if it doesnt get better/it gets worse i'll go see a physiotherapist

[tulip perch]

Wrap your hand in so much tape that it becomes stiff

[violet arch]

GG @tulip perch, you just advanced to level 9 !

[tulip perch]

And force yourself to have a straight wrist

[hollow spade]

@jovial violet how is it so far, fixing it I mean

[jovial violet]

just focusing on wrist massages/exercises to straighten it

currently

[zenith hare]

helth

[jovial violet]

honestly already feeling a lot better

just focusing on how i move my wrist while playing

cant focus on scenarios so wont get any good scores but

when this becomes a habit im sure it will get a lot better

[arctic moat]

nice lowqei

[violet swan]

How long of a break should I take for my carpal tunnel symptoms to go away?

[pearl bobcat]

Alright so I got a lack of depth perception in my eyes, meaning whatever i'm not immediately focusing on or staring at ends up getting kinda blurred out at the corners of my vision, does anybody have advice for this?

For example, whenever I play Apex and i'm ADS, I either have to focus on the target or my crosshair, with one getting blurred out as i focus on the other

[hollow spade]

@pearl bobcat doesn’t everybody have this ?

The outside of what I look at is blurred in my perifial vision

[loud plover]

@pearl bobcat Try not to tunnel vision too often. When you're free roaming or not engaged in a fight, even when you're aim training, try to look around the screen without actually moving your mouse. Just keep moving forward, but try to pay attention to, and point out, things within your surroundings. Enhance your awareness

@violet swan I don't think this is something any of us can reliably tell you. If you have any form of pain or syndrome of this kind, please consult a doctor first and ask them. If it's too embarrassing to ask them about video games, you could broaden the question a bit by asking "For how long should I stop performing the wrist-heavy activities that I normally do?"

It's a bit different from person to person. However, I did experience a period of wrist pain. Was doing calisthenics as well as aim training, and calisthenics is very wrist-heavy. But my wrist pain only came after my aim training became intensive, so I dialled it down a notch, took everything a little easier on my wrist, and gave it a couple days break. I returned back when the pain was gone, but I did consult a doctor first, who, in addition to what I just mentioned, advised me to also perform some wrist and hand stretches, because there was a bit of inflammation due to overworking

[violet swan]

Thanks I’ll probably be fine within a week I’m just doing stretches daily and taking a break from games

[loud plover]

Hope so, have a speedy recovery. Be safe!

[arctic moat]

^

[hollow spade]

is it true not drinking alot of water / and or dehydration(or levels of it like mild-dehydration) make your worse in every way imaginable?

[rare swallow]

what do u think

[hollow spade]

i think it does

ive been like not drinking the recommended amount of water my entire life, id say like less then 1 500ml bottle a day of water

[worthy cloud]

Your brain needs hydration to function

[rare swallow]

If you drink a lot of water

Everything is better

Just drink it’s really not hard

[loud plover]

Water is necessary for blood structure and pressure maintenance, organ function, electrolyte balance, digestion, muscle, brain activity, heart activity

There's a reason you can only survive days without it

Being hydrated might not feel like it's making a difference at first, but it does

[arctic moat]

Drink enough water it's easy to neglect when you're keeping yourself busy

Should be a no brainer

And what everyone else said above

[tulip perch]

If you game: put a waterbottle on your table.
I used to have them and I would drink every five seconds.
Now that I stopped buying bottled water I keep forgetting it aswell.
So every pause I take I drink like half a liter, but only because I remembered.

As for the focus thing.
I think you are focusing too much on the respective thing.
I am sure that you can watch a painting in its entirety and make out details (shapes and color) without loosing sight of your surroundings. Right?
I would assume that you can do the same on a screen.
Watch one shape (your crosshair) and it's surrounding screen-space simultaneously.
No need for hyper focusing on one.
Because, like you said, you loose awareness of the other.
Generally when I game I watch my crosshair. But loosely. My eyes are fixed there, but my vision is drifting around the screen. And if you see a target, try to think of it as a shape on your screen, and your crosshair as a dot. Now just move the dot near the shape. And it gets easier as you go

[hollow spade]

I think I’ve been dehydrated sense the age of like 9

Time to drink 3 litres a day

[loud plover]

Eddie Hall, is that you?

[worthy cloud]

Need more cranberry juice

[loud plover]

• A late Brian Shaw

[tulip perch]

Just imagine what society would look like if people like Eddie and Travis were properly hydrated

On a serious note:

To whoever asked me about a month ago about my Lutein and Zeaxanthin (&DHA) experience:
Wasn't taking it for a few weeks and I did notice a slight decline in visual clarity and a bit of mental processing speed.
Now I got me some new stuff, with a bit more DHA, and I can definitely recomend it.
So far I have gotten -20ms VRT, accuracy and reactivity also improved. Straight after 2 days of taking the pillies.

I think it's important to not just take any Omega-3. A science article said that DHA is the most useful omega-3 fat for the brain.

No personal comparison since I've only been taking DHA though.

[worthy cloud]

[violet swan]

A doctor a day keeps the apple away

[tulip perch]

Those are nice

I accidentally bought the wrong berry mix and those shitty raspberries are sour to hell and back

I get shivers for 10 seconds when eating one. Takes me 20 minutes to finish a bowl

[arctic moat]

@unborn bison No shit posting even in text

[cursive hemlock]

Is it good to eat before playing ? I feel like im unfocused without eating anything after breakfast

[arctic moat]

Of course it is why wouldn't it be

Depends what you eat of course but if it's healthy nutrious food

What would be wrong with that

[craggy shuttle]

Has anyone tried this stuff? Works really well especially for people who don’t like caffeine

[slow kelp]

I don’t know If anyone mentioned it already, but if you want to get into weight training you should check out „Starting Strenght“ by Mark Rippetoe. One of my favourite books

[urban grotto]

the hardest part getting into weight training for me is actually doing it

[slow kelp]

@arctic moat for some people it can be not helpful. Especially shortly after eating your digestive system utilizes a lot of blood. Which can lead to less blood in the brain and also spiking insulin can lead to worse concentration

@urban grotto having a structured plan and someone to go with helps. Also try to make it as convenient as possible. Pick a gym near to your home or a place you visit often anyways (work or school)

[arctic moat]

@slow kelp I feel like that's overthinking it, like you have to eat regardless throughout the day and to then skip meals so you can concentrate better it just doesn't make any sense.

@craggy shuttle You can get the ingredients from that product from natural foods, up to you how you want to consume it, don't think anyone knows if it's actually good (internet does though know usually)

[slow kelp]

@arctic moat that is correct. It is just the answer to ”why wouldn't it be”. And skipping meals isn't the way to do it for sure. But if you feel a difference in concentration. You could eat and then do chores instead of eating and then doing the hardest study work you need to do that day. I definitely feel a difference when studying

[arctic moat]

That depends how much you eat and what you eat

Also I think that's something you can't say for sure without citing studies

To prove one or the other

But for the majority of people I think you can assume it's actually beneficial to eat a healthy snack before any activity

[slow kelp]

That's true. Although I would stay away from foods with a lot of sugar or wheat and put a high emphasis on healthy

[candid vessel]

What should we avoid too much wheat ?

[arctic moat]

?

[long wadi]

?

[loud plover]

What should we avoid too much wheat ?
@candid vessel
Wheat?

[candid vessel]

ooopsy

let me try again

Why should we avoid too much wheat ?

That's true. Although I would stay away from foods with a lot of sugar or wheat and put a high emphasis on healthy
@slow kelp

[violet arch]

GG @candid vessel, you just advanced to level 1 !

[slow kelp]

I should probably correct that to „highly processed carbs“

Can cause relatively fast increase and decrease of blood sugar levels

Which can lead to concentration problems 🙂

[nimble cipher]

Why am I quite skinny but still got some belly fat?

I had the same with fat around pecs but those are turning into muscle

Should the same happen with stomach

[rare swallow]

u are healthy

[arctic moat]

Because most likely you aren't in caloric deficit and that's just where fat collects

[loud plover]

Or you are but it still hasn't gotten there yet, considering your fat around your pecs has reduced, or at least that's what I'm assuming

[tulip perch]

The belly is the first place fat collects.
Because of that it is also the last place you loose fat.
Everybody has tummy fat, that's how it is. Unless u go down to >10% body fat you'll always have some stuff there

I am perfect BMI for my age.
But when I curl into a ball and squeeze my belly, I can still find some fat.

Shocker

[novel whale]

just biologically normal

men in the belly area, women in the thigh area

but that is caused by lack of activity

just exercise and hit your overall body composition not just a certain area

like just doing ab exercises won't do anything

[worthy cloud]

spot fat reduction is a myth

you also can't out-work a bad diet

[edgy totem]

Anyone had experience with mewing?

[loud plover]

BMI isn't a very reliable method of measuring your "healthiness"

Anyone had experience with mewing?
@edgy totem A bit

[arctic moat]

True Sari

[real musk]

I mean you can kind of out-work a semi-bad diet

Muscle burns more calories than fat

So if you are relatively fit you can cheat a lot more than someone who is not and get away with it

But that doesn't mean you're advised to eat like shit lol

[loud plover]

Also depends on how bad the diet is

But there is some truth to that

[ebon thicket]

I barely drink any water at all, never had any problems

Maybe I should start drinking alot of water and see if anything changes

[real musk]

Think of it this way @ebon thicket Just because you don't notice any negative effects of drinking barely any water doesn't mean;
a) That the negative effects aren't occurring
b) If it is true and you feel fine now, it could be even better when you are properly hydrated.

That being said, it doesn't mean you are not hydrated if you drink other liquids and over hydration is also an issue (I drink too much water)

[eternal finch]

I take some stuff, so I thought I share my experience and how it relates with gaming. Been taking Lutein and Zeaxanthin for the past 5 days, and see no difference for now in VRT or visual clarity. I have been taking Omega DHA for several months along with Gaba, Htp5 and Vitamin D3, and I can clearly see the difference in terms of mental acuity and in higher stress situations I can think more clearly and don't panic as I usually did, and of course many other improvements on daily life, much less fatigued, less stressed, more motivated, etc. I have also started taking Propranolol as per the doctor's prescription due to anxiety and high blood pressure and that as also made me much more relaxed, but this is something that should always be consulted with a doctor, even more than when starting on supplements. Finally, several times I felt a metallic, dry taste in my tongue and drowsiness during the day. Figured out that its dehydration. I drank some water from time to time but clearly I needed much more. Its a feeling that a lot of people might have but dismiss dehydration. So drink a lot of water even if you think you already do.

[worthy cloud]

[arctic moat]

Agreed with what Jitter said

Also

[pliant aurora]

Yeah @ sephiroth I also figured out I was dehydrated for months. Never even thought about it.

[urban spruce]

ok so i have a problem that I never had before. My skin on my fingers just died because of playing I guess lmao. I bought some cream of whatever, but do u have any other idea what can I do? It's just painfull after some time to hold my mouse, so it's annoying. I never had it before tbf

[cedar plover]

skin on parts where you hold mouse or rub mousepad?

[urban spruce]

yaya where I'm holdin my mouse

sooo top of the fingers most likely :V

[slow kelp]

Does any of you guys have a home gym? If yes which is your favourite manufacturer?Might start to build one soon and currently I think I'll get everything from rogue✌️🏼

[violet arch]

GG @slow kelp, you just advanced to level 16 !

[slow kelp]

@urban spruce what do you mean by died? The skin peels of or is it sore or is it underneath the nail where the nail ”meets”the flesh <- horrible London I know

[urban spruce]

ya the skin peels of, starting to be painfull af, later its hard etc. annoying af

[oak orbit]

Are you gripping your mouse too hard

Don't get why it's peeling from playing

[urban spruce]

noo, normal as always. never had this issue

i guess will just have to make 2/3 days off. idk maybe my skin was super dry or something. :v

[slow kelp]

Is there inflammation?

[urban spruce]

noo i dont think o

so

[slow kelp]

then probably taking a few days of would be a good option. You could also try grip tape and or a glove buy I am not sure of that helps a loy

[urban spruce]

hmm glove, intresting

will try that lmao

[oak orbit]

Might still feel pain through the glove just from putting pressure on it

[slow kelp]

I can recommend fucidine if it gets worse (anti-inflammatory cream) but I think you need a prescription for that

[oak orbit]

But ye, I would take a few days for the skin to come back

[slow kelp]

The best would be for sure taking a break for a few days. But I can understand that you want to grind so maybe a different grip or different mouse could already help a lot

[urban spruce]

i wil lgrind with left hand, fuck it

but for real, will try different grip. thats a good idea! thanlks !

[oak orbit]

What finger is it?

[slow kelp]

Does any of you guys have a home gym? If yes which is your favourite manufacturer?Might start to build one soon and currently I think I'll get everything from rogue✌️🏼
@slow kelp it got lost in the finger problem ⚠️

[oak orbit]

i do not, no room in house unfortunately

[real musk]

I mean I go to the gym 5 days a week but I am unfamiliar with gym brands

[worthy cloud]

Rogue seems good

Potentially overpriced

But you dont want to go too cheap for a bar or rack

[slow kelp]

Yeah that’s what I thought. They are a bit pricey but they offer lifetime warranty, I heared a lot of good things about it + they look sick as fuck

[nimble cipher]

My dad is getting a bowflex home gym next week

Looks nice

[slow kelp]

yeah they do but I really like squat, benchpress dead and prefer barbell + a bit of db. Don’t really like training with machines

[nimble cipher]

Yea that's fair

Don't really have the space for all that

So we're gon a have that plus a bench

[slow kelp]

That sounds nice. But I think a powerrack isn’t that much bigger than the homegym thingy from bowflex

Shit is expensive but I think it’s worth to have your own stuff. Way cleaner and often people in gyms are so disgusting so that's also a plus

[real musk]

I mean

You can get away (mostly) with just barbell rack and dumbells

But I like the variety of machines from going to a gym

[slow kelp]

Absolutely understandable. I also had a time when I loved the diversity (went 6-7 days in this time) but I only use power rack and some db’s bodyweight anyways even if I am at the gym.

@real musk what’s you favourite machine?

[real musk]

I mean

I don't really have a favourite

I follow a plan currently

If you ever heard of Athlean-X

[slow kelp]

Sure

Really like his videos

Did you buy one of his plans?

[real musk]

I am on my second plan of his

I started with AX-1

And it gave me great results

But it is mega hypertrophy focused

[slow kelp]

Always wanted to buy it but never did.

[real musk]

And I wanted some more strength training as well

[slow kelp]

Did you have problems with overtraining? That’s what I heared from a friend of mine

[real musk]

So after that I now bought life time access to his BEAXST program

Which has 3 stages

Base

Beaxst

and

Total Beaxst

So essentially I can get 9 months out of this program

3 months on base

3 months on beaxst

3 months on total beaxst

I am on base rn

Anyways, no I have no trouble with overtraining.

[slow kelp]

That’s nice! Can would. Our recommend the hypertrophy one?

[real musk]

2 of the 5 days are active recovery days, and I sometimes sprinkle in muscles that I feel get neglected in the program

Like calves

I would recommend his programs, they've done me very well so far. I can post progress pictures if you want

Of me at 200 pounds really overweight vs me now at 150 with like 15% body fat

What level of a weight lifter would you call your self?

And what are your goals?

[nimble cipher]

For calves I do them on rests sometimes

[slow kelp]

Would love that . Need to add some mass again. Was in a really good shape then I got I’ll had a lot at work an Uni and now I look like shit.
(Was following sb911 before that (which I can really recommend))

[nimble cipher]

In-between reps of other stuff

Jitter would you recommend that to get very fit for soccer?

Or would it be too much

[slow kelp]

I train since I am 16 (now I am 22).
First 2 years wasted. Then I was in the best form ever. Then I was at my strongest stage at 20 and now I am getting back into form

[real musk]

@slow kelp so your goals are hypertrophy currently? Are you an experienced lifter or intermediate or what

@nimble cipher I am not sure about soccer, I never played it competitively and I know people think soccer players shouldn't have too much mass so they can be nimble

So I am unsure how to answer your question

[nimble cipher]

This is world's fastest soccer player

So idk

Some say to do it some dont

[slow kelp]

I mostly trained for hypertrophy but with getting stronger 🙂 I would say washed up experienced. But I have a lot of knowledge in food and training I would say

What are your current pbs in sdb jitter?

[real musk]

pbs = personal bests

what is sdb

oh

squat

deadlift

benchpress

yeah?

[slow kelp]

Yes

[real musk]

I am new to weightlifting, within the last 9 months

I haven't done any 1RMs

I can deadlift more than my bodyweight for 12 reps

[slow kelp]

You need to do that! It’s really fun

[real musk]

I can squat more than my bodyweight for 12

My benchpress is my weakest comparatively '

I benchpress 85 for 12

It's getting a lot better though in the past 2 months now on my new plan

I play high level hockey so my legs were insane before I started lifitng

[slow kelp]

Kg or lbs

[real musk]

which is why my squats and partially deadlift are so good

pounds

[nimble cipher]

As a goalkeeper in soccer I feel like my legs are my strongest by far

And my calfs are low-key ripped

[real musk]

all my legs are super strong

[slow kelp]

My calves are shit and the never grow:(

[worthy cloud]

I played high level hockey too

Now my squat is weaker than it should be due to hockey injuries

[nimble cipher]

Gonna go no Garbage food for a while

Ab szn

I'll come back tomorrow to tell you that I have probably failed

[real musk]

You don't have to fully cut out garbage foods at the start

Even cutting out 25% of the bad food is a win until you adjust and can cut out more

Even in a healthy diet, some cheat meals are ok and necessary to some to stay consistent.

[violet swan]

literally cutting out a lot isnt hard

like 0

idk how much crap you need to eat a day to not be able to cut it out

and replace it with stuff thats just as accessable

[real musk]

Hurls do you know anything about cravings

[violet swan]

yes

i cut out the garbage myself

[real musk]

So you are aware that the more sugar that someone consumes the more their body actually wants it?

[violet swan]

its a drug

[real musk]

Meaning someone who drinks numerous soft drinks every day and or other sugars is going to have a very difficult time going cold turkey

And that's just for sugars a lone

[violet swan]

idk i was able to just not eat sweets and sugary stuff by replacing it

well i hate softdrinks

only drink water

[real musk]

It is unrealistic and not recommended to immediately cut out all the bad food in your diet as you are setting yourself up to fail

And discouraging yourself to continue to try

[violet swan]

well i throw in like a cheat day sometimes

[real musk]

Yeah, like I mentioned above cheat days are important and sometimes necessary depending on the person and diet

[violet swan]

but atm im just eating so much food to gain mass that i don't have appetite anyways

[real musk]

But this guy is not at the point where he should even be thinking of cheat meals or days

As every day for him is probably sub par and thus would be considered a cheat day for most on a healthy diet

[violet swan]

well idk it depends where you start from

for me it wasn't hard to leave out

but I'm prob used to smth different from the beginning

my pov on what is a lot of unhealthy food is probably diffrent

[vague thistle]

dunno if this pertains to this section of this discord, but I think it does.

I've recently noticed that my aim is a lot worse in real scenarios. In the 4 games I've been playing recently, being Overwatch, R6, Apex, and Osu, my aim has felt like turbo shit. In Kovaak's, my scores are better than they've ever been, but in actual games, I've felt too stressed to properly hit shots, which makes me miss more than I should, which stresses me out even more. I used to consistently pump out 10 kill games in Apex, 57% Primary fire acc on Zarya in Overwatch, and consistent 1v3 clutches in R6, but I feel like I'm too stressed to properly do that anymore. Is there any possible way for me to make it so stress doesn't effect me as much in game? The only time recently when I've felt like this hasn't affected me has been when I've consumed stupid amount of illicit stimulants. Once was after consuming 106MG methylphenidate (trade name Ritalin. I ate 2 20mg/9 hour patches, which both have 53mg), and the other was after consuming 90MG amphetamine (Adderall, prescribed 45mg daily, took 2 of my doses at once). I'm honestly at the point where I'm unsure whether its physical dependence on hardcore stimulants, or stress that's making me play like shit. Any feedback would be appreciated, and I'm kindly requesting that you lads don't rip me apart for my poor choices regarding substances. Am currently 4 weeks clean from everything besides my prescriptions for my actual disorders

[real musk]

I could give a few tips that may help or may do absolutely nothing

[violet arch]

GG @real musk, you just advanced to level 11 !

[vague thistle]

literally anything helps at this point, am very lost :(

[real musk]

1. You're putting pressure on yourself to perform since you are doing better in Kovaaks.
2. You need to breathe more. Often in high intensity situations we have a tendency to actually hold our breath which causes our heart rate to increase and we stimulate or brain with less oxygen causing sub par results

That can also make your hands jittery

and other things

[vague thistle]

Both are applicable imo

[real musk]

There are others that could be at play too

[vague thistle]

The second one actually does make a ton of sense, considering that both of the named substances drastically increase the amount of blood, and therefore oxygen in the brain

[real musk]

Like maybe you're playing too much kovaaks meaning that the ratio of kovaaks to real game is off, so maybe your aim is improving but because you are neglecting playing your real games then you are not used to aiming in them or the mechanics that make a player good

That could also be applicable

[vague thistle]

I've been putting ~1 hour of Kovaak's a day, as well as 5 hours of actual games, so I'm not sure that that idea is applicable

[real musk]

Ok then it's probably not that

[vague thistle]

I'm almost certain its something to do with overthinking affecting my physiology and mental state while playing

Bc I'm diagnosed with anxiety, and there's a chance it could be triggered when I play or something

[real musk]

You could also be putting too much expectation on yourself to emulate the playstyles and abilities of better players that you might idolize causing you to fall short due to your lack of ability

[vague thistle]

The problem is, I'm in the top percentile for the game I play most

[violet arch]

GG @vague thistle, you just advanced to level 1 !

[vague thistle]

And it's also the game I'm playing worst in

Previously, I was consistently top 500 in Overwatch, but now I'm having trouble maintaining GM, even though the meta has shifted towards characters I'm more comfortable playing

[real musk]

Yeah out of the things I've said it's most likely the breathing thing then

Doesn't mean it's that

But it could be

[vague thistle]

Are there any breathing exercises that you think I should try? I know a couple, but I'm wondering if there are any that you think would help in particular

[real musk]

I am not aware of breathing exercises in particular

[arctic moat]

https://www.google.com/search?q=breathing+exercises&oq=breathing+exercises&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l7.5431j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[rapid tiger]

i finally got to work on fixing my posture. i slouched majorly and had my arm extended out from my body to the side, so now sitting straight up with my elbows locked towards my body is really uncomfortable. gets pretty tired in my shoulder after 10 or so minutes and i have to take a break and reset. Has anyone else gone through something similar, or am i doing something wrong to cause that fatigue?

[worthy cloud]

Finding a more comfortable seat and desk height can help

[real musk]

Fixing posture will be painful/sore for a bit

But after you fix it, it will become second nature and there will be no more soreness and you will be glad you did it

Unfortunately there are no ways to cheat good posture besides getting like a back pillow to force yourself but even those can be ineffective if you aren't actively maintaining it

[rapid tiger]

Its possible i'm not sitting high enough in proportion to my desk. i'll fiddle around with it. i'll try a back pillow as well

i decided to sit on a pillow to prop myself up and the discomfort went away for the most part

time will tell but i think this will help. thank you

[slow kelp]

@worthy cloud vouch. Getting an height adjustable desk also works wonders