#siege

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snow marsh
astral dagger
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yeah bro he thinks we dont know about tile frenzy

granite ivy
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Toast is half baked anyway pepeLaff

vivid jolt
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Half Baked do be the best flavor.

inland lark
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@astral dagger i run 6 6 66
Which is 12 66 400dpi :))

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Mini why no copper v as pp

raw fox
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toons agrees that fl aim is a thing to a degree

woven forge
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is this a stackable buff?

raw fox
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Nope

woven forge
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shit

raw fox
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Gonna get this off the chat rq hang on

woven forge
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:)

desert moth
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@granite ivy that staplez kid is actually p2 his main is staplez.

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has a neg kd tho imagine pepeLaff

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" a entry fragger "

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smooth brain to the max

dawn coyote
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normies like watching twitchy aim over smooth aim

coarse valeBOT
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GG @dawn coyote, you just advanced to level 13 !

dawn coyote
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a reason why people praise thaqil for his "aimbot aim"

desert moth
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are u just saying that because u have smooth aim

dawn coyote
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my aim is not smooth tbh

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but i find that smooth aim aimers are better than twitchy aimers

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smooth aimers tend to be more advanced in aiming skill than twitchy aimers

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they have better crosshair placement, consistency, accuracy, etc

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and are more satisfying to watch imo

astral dagger
normal bloom
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moffitt has some ugly ass tracking even though its great

opal fjord
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what fov measurement and fov should I use for 5:4 85fov in game

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and sometimes 4:3 84fov

desert moth
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look in pinned messages for this chat @opal fjord

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idk how tf it works cus im slow but u might be able to figure it out

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or u could just not play stretched pepeLaff

opal fjord
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hmm i think im dumb as well lol

opal fjord
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also say you dont play a 1 to 1 sens ratio is it better to practice your hip fire sens or ads sens while in kovaaks

inland lark
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Ads sens

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Thats what you shoot, hit/miss in

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I cant figure the fov thingy out but for me i just put vertical 1:1 90 fov

night radish
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1x is 10% lower than hipfire

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So if you play 90 fov youd put 81 as your ads fov

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Acog is like 65% or some shit

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So it comes out to like 35 fov or something crazy

astral dagger
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im better at a scenario than fuhsz and fishoguy, im happy

night radish
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Which one

astral dagger
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cilyuri reflex

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highscore is 1300 but now i can barely do 400

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first time i've done it i got 400

long python
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still on this 60hz monitor PepeHands

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the eye can't see past 30 fps anyway

astral dagger
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60*

long python
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24* movies are the golden standard

astral dagger
granite ivy
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That has more to do with retention rather than anything else

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They don’t identify what they saw in that time, but due to retention and training (knowing how other planes, etc look) they can have a rough idea

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Even then higher framerate and refresh rate are always better so w/e lol

long python
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what if it depends on the individual? the same way eyesight does

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obviously there's a baseline though

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or lower boundary

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but then again, eyes don't see in frames

coarse valeBOT
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GG @long python, you just advanced to level 13 !

astral dagger
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@wanton fable if i would try to count that i bet you had around 15 360's

wanton fable
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Ahahaha I'm addicted

raw fox
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@wanton fable y u got a champ badge in the thumbnail when you're a plat 2 this season

astral dagger
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Champ=views

wanton fable
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its all about the views brother

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who cares about the rank

granite ivy
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tell that to the gold that used champion badges and got shit on

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so

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it's only fair

astral dagger
wanton fable
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gn

velvet fern
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Sad.

opal fjord
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toast what vertical fov should i use for 84 fov 4:3

vivid jolt
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Narrow Strafe v2

Insanely practical tracking scenario for head-tracking in 1v1 gunfights. Go play it.

opal fjord
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in kovaaks

vivid jolt
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68 vFOV.

opal fjord
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ok thank you

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what rank are you toast

astral dagger
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!rank @vivid jolt

worn wagon
coarse valeBOT
opal fjord
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i mean like ingame rank

astral dagger
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his main acc is hardstuck plat pplaugh

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although he still claims that hes solo q dia

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but i have never seen his smurfs so i cant validate pepeThink

opal fjord
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oh fair im plat1

vivid jolt
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what rank are you toast
@opal fjord No idea. Haven't actually grinded rank in years so I just float around Plat for fun.

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I just solo queue or play with Gold IRLs.

astral dagger
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same

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so relatable

vivid jolt
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Frankly would love to stop doing that nowadays, but have no teammates to play with.

opal fjord
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yh tbh im floating around a proper team to stick with

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i have a guy in the group im with now who i enjoy playing with because he actually is good in mechanics and game sense

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its just consistency which is stopping me from diamond i think

astral dagger
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aight

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friendship ended with ftip

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i claw now

opal fjord
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lol

worn wagon
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@vivid jolt time for some comp?

astral dagger
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toast is old

vivid jolt
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......I'd like to.

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But I severely do not want to waste my time on some non-team against null-competition.

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Which I understand is asking for a lot.

mental snow
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youre wasting even more time by not playing at all

worn wagon
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this sums up what I've tried to tell him when I met him

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^

mental snow
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should try out for literally any team and find out where you belong in terms of skill level whether thats t4 or lower/upper t3 and see where you stack up against the best players at that level

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even if youre the "best" player on your team u can still learn a lot from your teammates regardless of level

worn wagon
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esp. if they have more experience than you do

astral dagger
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@vivid jolt scenario is nice

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my close tracking is still dogshit tho

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the crouches are nice

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dont like the jumps up tho

vivid jolt
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Right?

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The way I rationalize the jumps is I see the standing bot as a crouch level, and crouch bot as prone level so the jumping would be standing.

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Just assuming you're at a de-elevated position.

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Such a translatable scenario.

astral dagger
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ye

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ig its not the jumps itself

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but if the bot

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spams em

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like at start of the run

vivid jolt
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Ye I gave the bot a lot of room to vary the movements so it wouldn't be a predictable pattern, so sometime he spams it.

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The scenario is definitely more for practice than scoring.

astral dagger
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eh

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the side strafes

worn wagon
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toast is just gonna ignore me and @mental snow xd

astral dagger
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are extremely easy to read

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so if it doesnt spam

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its ez for scoring

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since crouching is free points

vivid jolt
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Nah, not ignore. I kys 'ed.
I can't argue against that.

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You're right.

astral dagger
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ahaha

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well i was on 110source

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maybe that didnt help either

mental snow
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i need to stop getting these urges to change my shit man

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like even though i havent played 16:10 in so long i just wanna play 16:10 and go back to the gsr

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for no reason at all

worn wagon
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Vladr, what are good aimbeast scens btw?

vivid jolt
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I don't know why you do. I don't see you going into consistent slumps.

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Most people change because they feel they're doing worse and need a change.

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ᵘⁿˡᵉˢˢ ʸᵒᵘʳᵉ ᵐᵉ ᵃⁿᵈ ʰᵃᵛᵉ ᵃⁿ ᵒᵇˢᵉˢˢᶦᵒⁿ ʷᶦᵗʰ ᵗʳʸᶦⁿᵍ ᵃᵇˢᵒˡᵘᵗᵉˡʸ ᵉᵛᵉʳʸᵗʰᶦⁿᵍ

mental snow
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perfectionism, just that little thought in the back of the dome that is always thinking "well maybe THIS could be better"

vivid jolt
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Mh.

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Relatable.

mental snow
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@worn wagon NFNT'S Clay Pigeon shooting hard, 1 target reaction - small fast, pipe 1w2ts flick, 1 wall 5 targets pasu mini, shinyys flick time hard are the scenarios i would say i play the most

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and i get just random urges like i will look at an old clip and be like "oh yeah i was on the GSR here, i liked the way that feels might go back"

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as baseless as it may seem

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just a chronic changer P:

worn wagon
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tyvm @mental snow

worn wagon
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what cm/360 do you play btw?

mental snow
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rn? 40 hip 77 1x

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ive been changing my stuff a lot lately doe

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prolly gonna change it soon

night radish
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77 1x?! Fuckin a

prisma latch
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That’s too far

vivid jolt
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Go off, my minions.

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Shame the low sens abuser.

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Degrade him.

mental snow
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Haters

mild turtle
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5cm/360 is where its at

astral dagger
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bet

worn wagon
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isn't Vladr the best player in this chat?

astral dagger
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fishoguy is also in here

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depends if you rate apac pl or na t3 higher ig

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XD

night radish
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Vladr better be fucking T2 or ima kms lol

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His youtube videos are the best

worn wagon
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vladr was t3 cuz he was underage tho

night radish
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He isnt fucking 18?!

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Jesus christ

worn wagon
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He is 18 for a couple month iirc

granite ivy
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isn't Vladr the best player in this chat?
@worn wagon imagine not thinking I'm the best player in this channel smh my head

worn wagon
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ok sry I don't you too much

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what do you play?

astral dagger
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ye papi

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is nasty

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he plays latam p1 hardstuck pplaugh

granite ivy
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ok sry I don't you too much
@worn wagon lol it was a joke

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vladr is probably the best if you consider people active people in here

astral dagger
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ye

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mini gud too

worn wagon
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i mean idk even T2 in latam

mental snow
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i just turned 18 not too long ago

worn wagon
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^^

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wanna move to EU to play national leagues xd?

astral dagger
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why would you if na has canadian pl pplaugh

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best kind of national league

worn wagon
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if not for the fact that NA has a LAN bo3 league EU is a better league

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cuz there a more teams to scrim

mental snow
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eu's depth compared to na is absurd

worn wagon
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so u wanna move to EU to play nationals?

mental snow
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and theres not really a fair comparison to NA's T2 to EU's t3/t2 tbh

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until dreamhacks and the such return we cant make a fair comparison on the skill level

worn wagon
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t3 rarely attends DHs

mental snow
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T3 attends dreamhacks that are within the region

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which isnt too big of a problem

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like dreamhack valencia and montreal for example

worn wagon
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2-3 teams max only w/ orgs

mental snow
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ye and most are byoc

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turning 18 isnt as fun as i was hoping it would be, in a span of 3 months 2 of my teammates left for professional opportunities in this region and another '-'

worn wagon
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I mean just having CL is legit crazy

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not only it means you just have quals and that's it to play

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but also every ex pro will compete for the spot

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no room to develop

mental snow
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a big part of the reason below the top 5 teams in na sucks is cause of egos, most people achieve their goal (whether thats making cl, finishing top cl, or making pl) then get an ego and stagnate

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NA egos are astounding

worn wagon
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don't think that's specific to NA

mental snow
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yes, but atleast in eu there is a lot more depth to back it up

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like bds got last place or second last pl and top 4 at invite lol

vivid jolt
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Bro no way FaZe just beat Liquid.

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Liquid of all teams looked like LATAM's #1 recently.

astral dagger
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only if bds had briD at invite

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maybe they wouldve made it even further

mental snow
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FaZe looked so ass too, i dont know how liquid lost

astral dagger
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never was a big fan of rxwd's performance

mental snow
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was anybody ?

astral dagger
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i hope not

vivid jolt
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rxwd

performance

astral dagger
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guy trolled

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straight up

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at invite

mental snow
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that guy was always ass, i called that he was gone when i watched BDS play cl quals

astral dagger
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took them

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a bit

mental snow
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surprised it took so long, he must have given shaiiko goated head or sum

astral dagger
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ye

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moral boost

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for the boys

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he did his duty

vivid jolt
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I'd give Shaiiko goated head if I could get his mechanical consistency.

mental snow
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the 80cm lifestyle

vivid jolt
astral dagger
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nip

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all the way

vivid jolt
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No question.

worn wagon
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#fazeup

mental snow
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on 1X sights which is theoretically more viable fire rate or damage?

astral dagger
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s

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t

vivid jolt
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As much as I'd like FaZe to win for once.

astral dagger
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f

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u

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:D

vivid jolt
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Why would a weapon's lethality change with an optic reticle?

astral dagger
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on 1X sights which is theoretically more viable fire rate or damage?
fire rate

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easier to missplace shots with lower magnification

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so heavy hitters are a bit worse

vivid jolt
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Unless it's like UMP level fire rate where missing 1 shot means instant-death, fire rate is [near] irrelevant to a weapon's lethality unless you suck.

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There's my hot take of the day.

astral dagger
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well yes

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but due to

vivid jolt
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Also I'm assuming you're deciding between the mini Commando and the Roni.

astral dagger
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target size and higher margain of error with acog sens

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you could argue it

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ofc its irrelevant most likely

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but theoretically

vivid jolt
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Fair.

mental snow
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ye which is why i said theoretically and not in practice

astral dagger
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^^

worn wagon
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firerate all the way in this game

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if you disagree you're wrong

vivid jolt
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This man just said the P90 (970) was better than the K1A (720)

astral dagger
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Scorpion> 416

vivid jolt
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If you right click the server icon on the sidebar, a red "Leave Server" button should show up.

astral dagger
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I was siding with u@vivid jolt

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Scorpion has higher fire rate then 416 so I was giving an example where fire rate isnt better

vivid jolt
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I just looked up the stats for the P90 after thinking about it because I couldn't remember what they were, and oh my fuck that gun is abhorrent.

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Gun is so bad it brings shame to its real life counterpart.

lime wyvern
astral dagger
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hes hilarious

long python
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?

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anyway

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55% on an alpha pack

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i be living da dream

lime wyvern
worn wagon
astral dagger
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what

worn wagon
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teammate: main stairs clear now

astral dagger
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@granite ivy
all after 3-4 tries

1wall5targets_pasu reload: 80
sparky popcorn: 150
ww6t reload: 123
1w6t reload v2: 101
bounce 180 sparky: 55

air no ufo no skybots: 840
ground plaza sparky v3: 850
popcorn goated tracking invincible: 530
thin gauntlet v2: 824
pasu track invincible v2: 5200

patts nr: 6400
bounce 180 tracking: 61
kints nr: 16300
devts goated nr: 470
voxtargetswitch: 98

granite ivy
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Aight, let me check the benches to see where those scorers fall brb

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s-progresssheet

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Aw fuck what was the command

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s-progress

bronze spruceBOT
granite ivy
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There we go

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Ok, so that’s actually pretty good for someone starting @astral dagger

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If you have the time (~2hs/day) I’d say do the fundamental routine for the rank (alternating scens and all of that) and then I can help you with some extra scenarios to work on different aspects everyday as an extra

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What did you struggle with most in each category/scenario?

astral dagger
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probably tracking

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i suck at thin gauntlet

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also not very good at b180t

granite ivy
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Yeah, if you struggle with tgv2, pgti and b180 it’s probably a matter of smoothness

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What sens did you do all of this on?

astral dagger
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34cm

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my siege sens rn is 6-6-29 @ 800dpi

granite ivy
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Ah then it makes sense, I personally think training tracking on high sens is better since we all generally lack smoothness but it of course makes those scens more difficult

woven forge
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wtf!!!

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29 ads

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bRO

granite ivy
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For smoothness, sdk’s smoothness routine is really good if you wanna give it a go. I can link that but it’s kinda long (2hs I think) otherwise you can just make a shorter routine with some key scenarios

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But yeah, smoothness is going to be super difficult

astral dagger
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i have as much time as it needs

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since i want to get better aim

granite ivy
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I admire that

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Lemme find his doc

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His routines are very very good

astral dagger
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i think my ingame mechanics and knowledge are at a level which i dont need to practice them anymore so i want to just do kovaaks

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no more thunt for now

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maybe 15 minutes before a game

granite ivy
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It’s a really good set of routines, but personally I’d say just stick to the smoothness and reactivity ones

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For everything else, I prefer zeeq’s

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Basically, if you’re really dedicated you can do an sdk and then a zeeq

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For example, one day smoothness and then tracking, one day reactivity and then static, then smoothness and clicking

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Just mixing them up

astral dagger
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where do i find the routines?

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oh nvm you linked them both :P

granite ivy
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Yeah lol

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Basically the biggest thing IMO is to always try to analyse your weaknesses and then try to compliment that. So just see which scenarios are harder and try to think about what kind of mouse movement is the one required there, that way you can know what you need to work on and it’s easier to actively focus on that

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Because just doing the routines helps, but you really want to maximize improvement by always trying to see where you’re lacking rather than just auto piloting

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Oh, and also there are some scenarios on zeeq’s routines that are really insane so replacing them is alright. I can’t open the files now since I’m on my phone but Imma try to remember which ones and what to replace them with

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Ok, so on the tracking one:

Ufo hard small -> Ufo hard
Smoothbot (sth else that I don’t remember) -> smoothbot invincible goated
LDDH -> LDDH Goated

On the clicking routine the worst one is pasu reload small. Pasu reload goated or the regular version is better. Also instead of small pat ts just play the small no reload version.

Static is alright but I’d just replace 1w6ts reload for the v2 and ww6t for the reload version

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Anyway, that should be enough to start working. But again, if these are a bit too hard it’s ok to do sth else

normal bloom
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any news on spoits kovaaks routine?

woven forge
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aimkey lul

fair shadow
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If my ads sens is slower than my hip fire should I calculate my ads and use that in kovaaks or use my hipfire sens?

inland lark
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Ads

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@granite ivy how do i use the progession sheet, where can i find a guide for it

lime wyvern
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If my ads sens is slower than my hip fire should I calculate my ads and use that in kovaaks or use my hipfire sens?
@fair shadow in my experience it is not worth it, as you're limited to one sens and you aren't playing kovaak to improve your siege aim directly.

astral dagger
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@astral dagger practicing while being conscious of your issues is most important

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then you ll actually improve rly hard

astral dagger
inland lark
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lel

granite ivy
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@granite ivy how do i use the progession sheet, where can i find a guide for it
@inland lark mb I feel asleep

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You basically just type in your scores and it does everything else for you

inland lark
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okay

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np man

astral dagger
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decided to play again after not playing for ages

inland lark
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mm

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the playground for contuur

granite ivy
astral dagger
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this person is lvl 530

night radish
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What am i looking at

timid mist
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xdd

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what a gun fight

night radish
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Oh it’s working now

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Hahaha wow howd he win it

velvet fern
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He was teasing you.

woven forge
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wait

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that is a controller

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surely

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no way

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holy shit HAHAHAHAHAH WTFFFFFF

astral dagger
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@velvet fern no hes really that bad

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a meme in the anz community

woven forge
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wait that's anz?

astral dagger
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australia

woven forge
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who

astral dagger
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???

woven forge
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^?

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who is that in anz

astral dagger
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fikalox

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hes some lvl 540 dude who has played 100 ranked games in total

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and is a casual sweat

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what the fuck

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hes pretty famous

woven forge
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wait mini

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are you anz

astral dagger
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wdym he is a casual sweat

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yes

woven forge
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wtfd

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are you doing

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awake

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it's 6am here

astral dagger
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being a gamer

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epic gamer moment

woven forge
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ive never met fikalox

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shame

astral dagger
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me at 4am

woven forge
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what do i need to do to match into his game

astral dagger
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what soft supports are there on def

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6am*

woven forge
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the heck is a soft support

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@granite ivy help

astral dagger
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@woven forge are u new to siege

woven forge
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i guess

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you could say that

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i havent played it much :D

astral dagger
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basically a support that isnt hard support

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like not thermite

woven forge
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huh

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you said def tho

astral dagger
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defense

woven forge
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thermite is attacker no?

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im confused

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terminology hard

astral dagger
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uhhh

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it doesnt matter what classifies as a soft support on defence

woven forge
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me small brain just lock ela

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:/

astral dagger
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there is only plant denial, viable ops and meme shit

restive void
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if i play 16:10 90 fov in r6 what fov do i need to use in kovaaks? the pinned comment confused me a bit

woven forge
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idk what a soft support is on def

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never heard it

astral dagger
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neither

woven forge
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i only know flex/entry/breach on atk

astral dagger
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you probably mean flex/support

woven forge
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ive never heard of a soft support

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especially with def

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so im fkn confused

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thx papi

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luv u

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(i dont see roles in def other than anchor/roam, since most sites are strat based no?)

astral dagger
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so plant deniable arent viable?

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and wdym by thx papi, papi didnt write anything

woven forge
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im thanking siege god

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?

astral dagger
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i see

woven forge
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he has awoken

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and come to

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explain

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:D

astral dagger
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no

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you have plant denial ops

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viable ops

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and meme shit

granite ivy
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the heck is a soft support
@woven forge the way I see it’s referring to a support that isn’t as essential as the main breacher. So it can play a bit more aggressive than the hard support and is supposed to take fights before him.

I like to rank them like: entries > flexs > supports and depending on the ops you’ll have an entry that will go first (say ash or zofia vs an iq or sledge). And the same can apply for flexs and supports. A hibana is more of soft support if your main breacher is mav or thermite

woven forge
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wait

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no

astral dagger
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ok but im gonna try out tmr for a team as soft supp and idk what to paly

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since every op on defence can do every roll to certain effectiveness

woven forge
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papi what is a soft support on def

granite ivy
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The roles aren’t that cut and defined tho

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It just depends on the ops and the overall plan

astral dagger
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he is talking about defence

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@granite ivy

woven forge
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i get attacking

granite ivy
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Ohhh

woven forge
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cos ive played flex for a team

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for a while

granite ivy
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Mb lol

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Defense is harder to categorize I guess

astral dagger
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wait ur new to the game but u played for a team?

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i told you what is the case

woven forge
#

i fill their 5th slot while they look for an official 5th

#

cos i dont siege

#

they're just a bunch of plat1/dia's scrimming teams

granite ivy
#

Since you can’t really set an order based on who drones the most and who enters first based on utility’s importance

astral dagger
#

you only have hard support which is plant denail on defence

granite ivy
#

Who takes the first fight and all that in def depends on where the attack is coming from. But support roles might be those that want to stay as far back and avoid fights unless necessary due to having plant denial utility

astral dagger
#

every other op is relative to the strat

granite ivy
#

Yep

woven forge
#

all i can think of is maybe

#

valk

astral dagger
#

you can have entry playing on kaid for example

woven forge
#

when someone says

#

soft support

astral dagger
#

nope

woven forge
#

def

granite ivy
#

Nah, valk is generally a strong roamer

woven forge
#

ye

#

for sure

granite ivy
#

I wouldn’t say she’s support neither soft or hard

astral dagger
#

info ops are usually not used by the ops themselves

woven forge
#

struth

astral dagger
#

if you are valk your cams will be watched by someone else

woven forge
#

pulse would be then

granite ivy
#

But I don’t think that classification works so easily in def

astral dagger
#

unless you are the one on site or anchoring

woven forge
#

soft support

granite ivy
#

Exactly, generally your hard anchor

woven forge
#

for def

#

minidin

#

what rank are you

astral dagger
#

diamond

woven forge
#

u might get some roaming rooks

#

in ur game

#

;)

#

by roaming rook

#

i mean me

#

and im roaming

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on rook

granite ivy
#

Probably ops like echo/maestro. Wouldn’t say smoke and mute since those have much more potential to be aggro

woven forge
#

on outback

#

:)

#

oh true

astral dagger
#

i was champ but the account i had it on sold

#

😭

woven forge
#

ye im not good enough for dia

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also dont play

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xD

#

not sure about mute

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feel like he kinda drops his util and leaves

#

but like thinking about how a pulse supports a team

#

can defs see them being supportive def

granite ivy
#

Yeah but my point is how “support” an op is on def is mostly about how they play after their utility is set

woven forge
#

fsfs

astral dagger
#

any role can do anything on defence since pretty much all utility is place and forget

woven forge
#

just never heard the classifcation

#

thx clarify papi

#

ur the best

granite ivy
#

Mute and smoke have a ton of potential to win fights so sometimes leaving a smoke on cameras is kinda wasteful

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Np seul 🙂

astral dagger
#

the operators that have active utility, like smoke, echo, kaid, bandit etc will be the ones played by supprot

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since they need to be alive to have their gadget be active

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not so much for kaid and bandit/mute since if thatcher is banned vertical or utility has to be used even if they die

woven forge
#

yeah

#

but tbh

#

at my level

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vs papi and mini

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idk if too much matters

granite ivy
#

But mini, aggro smokes are super common and effective l

woven forge
#

in terms of roles

astral dagger
#

besides that literally every other op on defence is place and forget so just pick the op for the strat or the most meta bullshit op and do whatever you wany

woven forge
#

((melusi))

astral dagger
#

since if you die your gadget is as effective as if you were a pl player

woven forge
#

(((jager)))

granite ivy
#

God melusi is fucking dumb

#

3 barbeds and c4

#

Wtaf

astral dagger
#

she also has the highest win and pick delta average

#

meaning she is always picked and always wins

granite ivy
#

Who would’ve thought that?

#

:surprised_pikachu:

woven forge
#

yea

#

look

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that op

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i ban it

#

:)

granite ivy
#

Can’t imagine what she’ll be in pl

#

Absolute aids

woven forge
#

really need to reduce the radius more

#

or 2 instead of 3

#

idk

#

again, im a shitter so no informed opinion like u guys

granite ivy
#

2 instead of 3 I’d say would be better than less radius

#

But

#

Either way, it’s silly

#

That they even made her

woven forge
#

she has a good gun too

#

tbh

granite ivy
#

Instead of balancing current ops

astral dagger
#

they need to make it so her cams can be killed with a full mag

granite ivy
#

Yeah, I don’t like the t5 but it’s a good gun actually

astral dagger
#

or make it so that DMRs and Kali sniper can kill them

granite ivy
#

I was thinking about dmrs

woven forge
#

i think the latter mini

granite ivy
#

But no one wants dmrs

woven forge
#

would be good

#

kali would see more

#

play

astral dagger
#

kali should be buffed since her guns are shit

woven forge
#

give her smg an acog

#

xd

astral dagger
#

make it so she has 2 emp knockoffs but make it so her sniper kills all indestructibles

#

shields, evil eyes, melusis etc

#

would make the game interesting

woven forge
#

oh true

#

that would be actually pretty cool

#

tbh she already has to play a guessing game w/ mute/band/kaid

#

that would be interesting fs

#

i think melusi placement would see more planning

#

nowadays it can be placed literally like anywhere

#

and get good value

astral dagger
#

thats the problem with indestructible gadgets

#

placement doesnt matter since they get value anywhere

#

unless youre a retard

woven forge
#

hard agree

#

and im a retard

#

so i ban melusi

#

:D

#

and hope they dont maestro

#

:D

astral dagger
#

retards arent masters on sparky

#

uhhh

woven forge
#

im not a siege player

#

im definitely bad

#

at siege

astral dagger
#

@cyn will be master soon

woven forge
#

compared

#

to mini

#

and papi

astral dagger
#

ok mini mb

#

ur right

granite ivy
#

2 bans are really not enough with so many aids defenders

woven forge
#

^^^

astral dagger
#

ur bad bc u dont play it

woven forge
#

mini probs better aim than me too

#

smh

astral dagger
#

so it doesnt mean ur a rtard

woven forge
#

nah siege high level actual puts ur ego down

#

legit

#

shits on it

#

bc u cant play w/o good game sense

astral dagger
#

i have better INGAME aim

woven forge
#

and ive learnt that

astral dagger
#

but outside i cant even get platinum scores in kovaak

woven forge
#

ye

#

i gm+ ow

#

started silver sparky bench :/

#

bc my aim style isnt good for scores :/

#

so i had to start from scratch

#

aim doesnt feel like it comes into play that much in siege

granite ivy
#

but outside i cant even get platinum scores in kovaak
@astral dagger yet mini, yet

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My mouse control was garbage 3 months ago

#

Barely gold/plat

#

In benchmarks

astral dagger
#

im swapping out my hein

#

i worn it out i think

woven forge
#

just wash it

astral dagger
#

gonna try a coolermaster mp510

#

yeah i have

woven forge
#

no

#

ew

#

ew

#

ew

#

ew

#

tbf idc i use a hien mid and get hate for it

#

if it works it works :D

astral dagger
#

why hate?

woven forge
#

soFt bEtTER

#

if i use a soft pad i start to press into the pad to force smoothness

#

dont like it

astral dagger
#

why not like mp510?

#

guys

#

im scared

woven forge
#

i dont like coolermaster,,,

#

i heard it wears easily

astral dagger
#

i feel like i cant move anything downer than the middle of my back

woven forge
#
  • hybrid pad is no go for me
#

cos i cant wash :/

granite ivy
#

i worn it out i think
@astral dagger most people say theirs last for 2-3 years

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  • hybrid pad is no go for me
    @woven forge wat
#

I have an amp500

#

And washing it is super east

#

Easy

woven forge
#

o

granite ivy
#

Just water and a bit of soap, and they dry super quickly

woven forge
#

maybe i will try again

astral dagger
#

mine feels kinda slow

woven forge
#

i just heard that washing hybrid is weirdchamp

#

mini just lube it

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:)

granite ivy
astral dagger
#

honestly i play without a mousepad just fine

woven forge
#

hah

#

look at this dude

astral dagger
#

on my bumpy wooden desk

woven forge
#

bet he plays for a team or smth

#

gear doesnt matter

astral dagger
#

perhaps

woven forge
#

cant be me

#

omegalul

astral dagger
#

should me hien feel slow?

#

if i push my mouse it barely glides half way across

#

kinds just stops

#

should i go for a fundamental click timing routine or siege specific routine

woven forge
#

mini might be ur mouse feet tbh

astral dagger
#

@granite ivy does this look normal?

granite ivy
#

I dunno, I don’t have a hien sadly 😦

astral dagger
#

wrong person lel

#

@woven forge

granite ivy
#

But fron what I gather it’s supposed to be speedy

astral dagger
#

mini

#

make a vid with the other cam of ur phone

#

face reveal pls

woven forge
#

oh

#

are you on the glorious skates

astral dagger
#

yes

woven forge
#

mine slides

#

ill get my model o

#

sec

astral dagger
#

if i try to hit it hard enough my mouse can slide 50 cm

coarse valeBOT
#

GG @astral dagger, you just advanced to level 16 !

astral dagger
#

with 1 finger

#

xd

woven forge
#

okay it does seem a bit slow

#

my skates are unworn

#

tho

#

if i use worn skates

#

it's about the same

astral dagger
#

im not pushing it im just tapping it with the momentum of my hand

#

ah

woven forge
#

oh

astral dagger
#

also how tf do i dry mine

woven forge
#

okay i test again

#

sec

astral dagger
#

but ur mouse is lighter

#

water gets trapped in the foam

woven forge
#

aight

astral dagger
#

how do you wash a cloth mousepad

woven forge
#

ur hien is fine

#

just wash it

astral dagger
#

kk

woven forge
#

ur feet are just worn

#

imo

astral dagger
#

how do you wash a cloth mousepad

#

with warm water and soap

#

or dishwashing liquid

#

imma go for the first one tmr

#

i use a soft paintbrush for my hien

#

should i go for a fundamental click timing routine or siege specific routine

#

@woven forge what do you use on your hien?

#

like mouse/skates

woven forge
#

currently running hyperglides

#

i feel like tiger arc series 1/2 will be ur best bet

granite ivy
#

@astral dagger

#

Rjn is a bit of meme but this vid is great

astral dagger
#

ok

#

can u look above

#

@granite ivy

granite ivy
#

You mean the dishsoap?

#

I never tried

astral dagger
#

ok bought some arc 2 :)

#

no man

#

the question i asked

granite ivy
#

Which question? I’m dumb

#

Lol

woven forge
#

arc 2 good for hien

#

fs

#

good stopping

astral dagger
#

should i go for a fundamental click timing routine or siege specific routine

#

siege specific routine is thunt

#

do click timing

#

and t hunt

woven forge
#

that

#

and vladr movement

#

:D

astral dagger
granite ivy
#

should i go for a fundamental click timing routine or siege specific routine
@Snowxdmous.LFG#9019 i like fundamental routines but the siege ones are probably better if you want quick improvement. Fundamentals and general mouse control is slower but more universal and better IMO

#

Up to you really

astral dagger
#

i think i prefer the fast ones so i can work on my gamesense and decision making

#

They are the same length lol

#

did u read what papi said

#

O

woven forge
#

i assume navin thought u meant fast as in shorter routines

#

but you were talking about quicker improvement for siege specifically

#

so you can work on your other aspects

astral dagger
#

yes

#

papi got me into thinking about playing comp today

#

I didnt read what papi said

granite ivy
#

Not about the length navin, what I mean is that the siege routine focus solely on scenarios that translate more directly to siege

#

Rather than doing general mouse control training which isn’t as efficient but has a higher ceiling IMO

astral dagger
#

The length part wasnt to u

#

That wasn't what I meant

#

i assume navin thought u meant fast as in shorter routines
@woven forge

#

That's what I was talking about

woven forge
#

yeeeee

granite ivy
#

Gotcha

astral dagger
#

they need to get rid of that fucking boost in archives

granite ivy
#

You mean pengu in border?

#

I love that angle ;-;

woven forge
#

papi cheeser

carmine pier
#

is dechanic control in stock anywhere

#

or is it just

long python
#

school starts tomorrow for me

#

rip aim

vivid jolt
mental snow
#

this is why i dont solo queue

granite ivy
#

3/3 wrong

#

Impressive

#

At least he placed his jammers tho

inland lark
#

I ussd to run this set up lol but with c4

#

Now i use mp5k and smg, i just dont feel like using the shotgun

#

But again i have black ice for the shotgun so idk

granite ivy
#

Shotty is so good

#

I hate having the mp5k since I can’t choose between both lol

dawn coyote
#

abfs meso big good for r6?

granite ivy
#

wym?

astral dagger
#

@vivid jolt is that vid good?

vivid jolt
#

Some decent bits of knowledge in there.

#

Nothing too revolutionary but worth a watch.

#

Interesting at the least.

woven forge
#

bb on coast lmaaooooo yikes

#

really had to do it match point too

astral dagger
granite ivy
#

What scen is that?

#

Toast rank 55 is kinda sus ngl

#

Oh also that’s probably because it’s his secondary account

#

Scores are saved locally

#

Also wait, couldn’t you then make false saves and fake scores? weird

astral dagger
#

idk

#

thin gauntlet v2

#

or pat target

#

one of them

granite ivy
#

Uhm

#

Scores don’t work like that on those scens lol

#

Could be vox?

astral dagger
#

ah yea

#

mb

vivid jolt
#

voxTS.

vivid jolt
#

Those imposters suck.

lime wyvern
#

nice

#

after a prefire too

#

that would have been my last game

lime wyvern
night radish
#

Lmao

#

Sparky bronze?!

astral dagger
#

guys

#

which weapon is better on kaid?

vivid jolt
#

TCSG if you can aim.

#

No question.

#

Difficult weapon though.

astral dagger
#

acog or not

#

@vivid jolt

#

and what grip

mild turtle
#

Personal preference some people play angled and holo

#

I prefer vertical and acog

inland lark
#

try the vertical recoil first

#

then decide

astral dagger
#

Lmao how is he not banned

#

Derek_chauvn

lime wyvern
#

Lmao how is he not banned
@astral dagger it could be his name

astral dagger
#

Yeah but they banned my irl friend who changed his name to George floyd

lime wyvern
#

you sure he didn't get banned for racism or something

worn wagon
#

@astral dagger TCSG is good, but situational and hard to use. Aug is just a better version of the ump, but it is an automatic gun and in siege it matters

astral dagger
#

@worn wagon i feel like the aug is worse than the ump

worn wagon
#

In which way?

#

Same attachments, 70 more firerate

#

2 less damage and a couple more bullets

astral dagger
#

Idk another friend also got banned for spamming "get kneeled on" after every game

inland lark
#

i got banned for typing "fgt" once xD

lime wyvern
#

lmaoo

astral dagger
#

Lmao

coarse valeBOT
#

GG @astral dagger, you just advanced to level 12 !

night radish
#

Where was that c4?!?!

astral dagger
#

imagine having a social life

astral dagger
#

whats this

solid rampart
#

attachment skins

astral dagger
#

yeah but people knew about this already

granite ivy
#

They’ve been available since the beginning of the season lol

carmine pier
#

dumping that on wammys mp day one

astral dagger
#

wtf alibi has jackal shotgun now tf??

velvet fern
#

Since when did Alibi have Jackal's Shotgun?

#

Lmao

astral dagger
#

lol

#

we cute

velvet fern
#

We cute.

astral dagger
#

nvm think it's just this gamemode

velvet fern
#

Everyone has it, most likely.

vivid jolt
#

Feels.

velvet fern
#

Bad.

coarse valeBOT
#

GG @velvet fern, you just advanced to level 11 !

inland lark
astral dagger
#

how do i stop double calling

granite ivy
#

ez, start to triple and quadruple call like me

astral dagger
inland lark
#

Whats double calling?

granite ivy
#

I'm assuming mini refers to when you for some reason give a callout than once and saturate comms like a dingus

#

happens a lot to me lol

#

I just have a very hard time shutting up

inland lark
#

CEO bro CEO CEO CEo

#

smth like that>

#

?

astral dagger
#

any siege players who also play kovaaks add me on steam 2 compare scores

#

friend code 298079925

inland lark
#

already added you

astral dagger
#

scariest kapkan alive

#

fml

woven forge
#

good morning to everyone other than Elementz

astral dagger
#

LOL

dawn coyote
#

@astral dagger i sent you a friend request, my ign is timing

woven forge
#

minidin i sent u a friend request too

#

my name is ElementzOCE

#

im reformed no more girls the only thing i bang is walls on oryx trust me

astral dagger
#

kinda true

vivid jolt
vivid jolt
#

Seems they want to create a Ubisoft universe.

#

Looks as if they're integrating Siege with Watch Dogs and Splinter Cell.

astral dagger
#

they should add sam fisher to rainbow six

woven forge
#

bandit elite str8 outta far cry tbh

astral dagger
#

new charm

astral dagger
#

bro im so done with these shit teams who dont want to play new ops in scrim

#

they come out in weeks

astral dagger
#

yesterday i played my first scrim

#

and there was a gold 1 that said he only plays alibi and jager or bandit

#

and on attack he played twitch

#

he top fragged but he wasnt accepted in the team

astral dagger
#

yeah swinging and killing bad players is the opposite of a show of skill

woven forge
#

:(

worn wagon
#

well @astral dagger someone might have quals with old ruleset

astral dagger
#

now i finally understand people on twitter crying about mfs swinging everything in scrims

patent hatch
#

people really out here thinking a rank mindset will get you into a comp team lmfao

astral dagger
#

dude im in a little 'comp ' team and we just had 2nd day of scrims

#

we have team and and b

#

im in b

#

and a guy in a litteraly proned on 90% of the shots

patent hatch
#

good shit mang

#

yeah fuck those people lmfao

astral dagger
#

can anyone watch me do some scenarios and point out my problems

inland lark
astral dagger
#

Yeah ^^

#

ok but what scenario

#

s

inland lark
#

any scenarios

#

maybe not tile frenzy

#

but maybe try something from r6 routine, benchmarks etc..

astral dagger
#

I'd try some benchmarks

#

Especially 1w6ts reload

inland lark
#

yeah sure.

#

wide wall scens are great too

astral dagger
#

Do vox and pat aswell

astral dagger
#

and what should i record with

astral dagger
#

Obs or shadow play

#

G force expierence

velvet fern
#

Shadow Play.

astral dagger
#

shadow play is easier and less taxing

#

k i posted

granite ivy
#

@astral dagger on 1w6ts you wanna focus on being smooth and making straight lines from bot to bot, it's alright if you're slow at first but you have to focus on acc and then build speed. Also always focus on which bot you'll go next, good pathing helps with keeping momentum

#

oh, and the benchmark is "1w6ts reload v2", you should play that instead of the regular reload version

astral dagger
#

ok but when i do kovaks

#

i focus like really hard

#

and sometimes i look at a target and i flick next to it even tho my crosshair is on it already

granite ivy
#

I don't think I'm understanding you

#

you say that sometimes even when you're above the target and could just shoot you flick away?

#

but anyway, just focus on making each line as smooth as possible

#

you want to be efficient and make as least moves as you can

#

try to not flick and simply go from 1 target to the other

#

btw, I'm already free so lmk if you wanna do the kovaaks stream

astral dagger
#

yes thats what im saying

#

@granite ivy yeah i have to finish this match

granite ivy
#

sure sure

astral dagger
#

Ur overthinking

#

That only happens when ur thinking about it too much

#

And I cant help u much cause I'm literally silver static

astral dagger
#

these titles are getting out of hand!

astral dagger
#

nah beau is the only guy who makes these titles funny and not cringe

#

everyone else is cringe af

#

"how a champion with the best aim destroys champ ranked"

#

those are annoying af

vivid jolt
noble belfry
#

Sini doing you dirty like that

astral dagger
#

also im literally shaking

#

sam fisher is in rainbow 6

vivid jolt
#

Mini degraded back to console. Incredible.

astral dagger
#

Controller actually so much fun

night radish
#

its sooooooooooooo slow

snow marsh
#

every time I open siege I lose elo from rollback

#

was plat 1 start of szn now about to b p3

#

just cuz of rollback

#

all I fee is pain

astral dagger
#

psycho

#

controller is the most fun i have had in this game in a long time

cyan coral
#

this isnt like aim related but, smacking people who do glitches is so satisfying lmao

vivid jolt
#

Casuals.

cyan coral
#

idk why ppl glitch in casual lmao

granite ivy
#

Idk why people play casual tbh

#

Even ranked is aids

#

On other news, kafe kitchen defense with rotations on bakery, red and freezer is apparently to hard for latam t2-3 teams to handle

#

100% success rate

#

On scrims

vivid jolt
#

Rotations on... freezer?

granite ivy
#

Yes

#

You open up the left panel from the inside

#

Play with a shield by the vip double door and reinforce garage

#

Makes the freezer hatch drop unviable