time to hit
#siege
static sentinel
rllyl?
astral dagger
ye ofc
reset is prob caused by the acc hitting plat and then deranking to silver and below @static sentinel
static sentinel
kekw
I also started silver hit plat and went down to silver
so I dont think its that
astral dagger
1.4 seasonal in plat then suddenly s4 XD
astral dagger
ye but you didnt start out
in like plat 3 / g1
at start of season
BUT IF I CANT BE COPPER AND PLAT THE SAME SEASON I CHOSE THE COPPER
so time to hit the hard derank
worn wagon
he was ironic
@astral dagger smart people in sparky discord, hoooray
astral dagger
😎
worn wagon
But i also went from plat to silver with Jan
@static sentinel not much of a change
worn wagon
Imo there are around 3-4 ranks: 0-2000; 2000-3700; 3700-4700 and 4700++
astral dagger
i mean u cant compare a bronze which is like 2200 or smth to a 3400
or 3500
1st
loss
accomplished
9 more to go
vivid jolt
Pfftt... I see 3 ranks. Casual-Gold 1, Plat-Diamond, Top Champ-Comp.
astral dagger
top champ and comp ?
dont think you can put in
comp
into the ranking systems
diff is to big
vivid jolt
Of course it's too big. I'm ranking mindsets rather than skillsets.
The stupidity difference of a Casual to a Gold 1 is null.
The "must win" mentality between Top Champ and comp is relatable.
My point really was how dumb ranks are in this game, frankly. Was making fun of the ranks more than anything.
They're negligible and it irritates me. There is so little difference between casual players and the walking troglodytes in P3.
(no offense)
static sentinel
Im plat 3 so I must be good
worn wagon
They're negligible and it irritates me. There is so little difference between casual players and the walking troglodytes in P3.
@vivid jolt There's a huge difference in one thing: ego
vivid jolt
Truth. 
vivid jolt
Trippy
night radish
Cute
@granite ivy yo so i just went ahead and moved my ads down to 42 just to try it and it felt so natural
60 something cm 1x and 110 cm acog lolol
Only thing that took real adjustment was first shot recoil
granite ivy
Ye, training and developing mouse control makes changing sens so much easier
Rn I’m on 50cm 1x and we chillin
Played siege again after an 8 day break and my aim felt super crisp, even tho I trained on 31.5cm it was super natural
toxic sundial
@vivid jolt
vivid jolt
Pins.
vivid jolt
I developed a 4-shell sprint-able shotgun hole rotate (w/ laser)
[on left side compared to crouch/standing sledge rotate holes]
. 1
2 3
4
It's really hard but could be pretty useful in a pinch if you can master it.
Works best 4-5m away.
Thought maybe someone might find it interesting. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
dawn coyote
thanks for making me feel less shitty about my potato aim
inland lark
whats with the continuous maintenance these two days
are they changing smth significant?
vivid jolt
No idea.
inland lark
fuze update?
worn wagon
They are not changing anything significant I believe
Maybe some bugs
Or something they implemented wrong
Could also just be something back end related with no player felt changes
astral dagger
fuze gets 1 more charge
still useless op tho
maybe if they made him a 2 speed he would be ok but meh they need rework him
noble belfry
I wonder if they'll ever play around with the cluster charges are set, or if they allow it on reinforced walls
worn wagon
Just make them make less noise and deploy faster
Going through reinforcements is meh cuz the charges themselves get so much utility
And being safe while deploying them as well as having smokes and ak12+pmm is insane
noble belfry
Yeah I wouldn't think it going through reinforces would be the answer, just curious if they ever considered it
He needs work though I wonder how much better less noise and deploying faster would make it
astral dagger
enjoy
night radish
Cyn master when
vivid jolt
worn wagon
He needs work though I wonder how much better less noise and deploying faster would make it
@noble belfry Well, in siege, where the maximum number or projectiles denied is 11, having 12 grenades each of which can kill a person and destroy multiple gadgets is insane. I'd say on some site he would be very OP if he was quieter and fastwr
vivid jolt
Fuze won't ever be a worthwhile pick on non-soft [ceiling] sites until his charges can go through reinforced walls. That's just simply how it is. There's no point otherwise and the only opportunity is just extremely limited. They'd need to reduce the blast radius, and explosive pucks if so. Serious balancing overhaul required.
worn wagon
I'd say the perfect thing would be a candella throw mechanic with either reduced damage to operators or a significant delay before it blows up
vivid jolt
Interesting alternative, though it removes his vulnerability.
worn wagon
Going through reinforcements is too much. He will just clear small sites from utility completely
vivid jolt
Which is why he'd need his blast radius reduced heavily so he can't clear a whole room's utility, but rather just push a wall/corner hold out of position.
It's a very difficult gadget to balance properly. It frankly needs a full rework.
Then you have his weapon on top of however useful his gadget would be.
Which is another balancing issue.
worn wagon
Give him M12 as primary. Make his secondary gadget claymore/breaches. Remove damage to operators. Gadget does through walls and delpoys fast. Ez counter to utility meta.
noble belfry
honestly kinda like the idea of candella esc
worn wagon
I mean having AK12, Pmm and Smokes is already really strong, thats why gadget has to be not too good
night radish
Imagine discord update unmuting all discord servers youve muted lol dafuq
night radish
Lmao i hate the cluster fuck of servers
astral dagger
@static sentinel go break ctzn aimtastic score
granite ivy
Ctzn doing static smh
Come back with that gm tracking
And we’ll see
I’d agree if it wasn’t the only thing holding me back from m2
Heck, I can’t even get d2
Still need one more diamond clicking 
Bruh kovaaks is legit the most fun game for me rn
I actually rather do kovaaks than play siege or any game
It’s wild
Nanana cyn gotta get gm
This channel doesn’t have enough gms
Plus, that way you can flex on everyone who thinks you suck
astral dagger
I feel hella sleepy for some reason
@static sentinel cuz legit all you do is eat sleep and play
mild turtle
lvl 444 :D :D
astral dagger
future pro league prodigy
dusk tinsel
pro league player in the making
velvet fern
Copper charm > High rank charms.
astral dagger
^
lime eagle
granite ivy
@solemn sage watcha doin here? 👀
dawn wind
i wanna get into siege but my irl homies all only play it like once every month
just kinda boring
im game at some point yeah
granite ivy
Never would’ve thought lol
astral dagger
imagine climbing up and not down
astral dagger
imagien not having 2 alts in copper
Couldn’t be haerls
@granite ivy if they wanna force reset my plat acc
i just put it to copper
astral dagger
why the fuck would i contact support
granite ivy
The fact that one can be stuck in gold with a 1.8 kd kinda sucks
Because they reset your plat account?
Unless I misunderstood sth
astral dagger
Well why would i care
about plat acc
trolled down to gold 2 by time of reset anyways
granite ivy
That’s fair
astral dagger
cringe tho
that ubi resets smurfs
cant troll in a game in which you have atleast 1 closet in the lobby every game xd
granite ivy
Ik, yesterday I played against a guy that would prefire perfectly around corners and try to hipfire from above
Dude was clearly wallhacking but somehow thought no one could tell
Playing pulse on def too lmao
astral dagger
idk
its like that
majority of games
2 seasons ago i never called cheats
like insanely rarely
and only on the ppl that would be so blatant to spin in your spawn
but last 2 seasons i just cant tell anymore
granite ivy
I just want an anti cheat like vanguard, idrc if it’s full of chinese spyware tbh
The worst thing is that whenever someone’s cheating in my team it’s not even fucking noticeable so then I get hit with -200 mmr
And not a single blatant cheater thay I could recall in my team
astral dagger
ye
like 2
oh its funny
bit like playing god
its jsut dumb fun for a few games
when you blatant cheat
granite ivy
Probably because they get a sense of power that they never had
astral dagger
like spinning in cs etc
granite ivy
Like, oh look at me I can kill everyone xd
astral dagger
but like closet cheating is the biggest cunt move ever
all fucking
idiots
that do that
granite ivy
:banhammer: ^
Jk
Never cheated, but it’d be interesting to do it once
Like, wallhacking at most
Just to see how ez it is
Because my theory is that any gold and above should be practically unkillable if walling
astral dagger
top 10 gunfights
me choosing to not shoot cuz i realize i have to lose the round XD
i dont even know at this point
wat
eu
jk
ye i expect more from smorky grandmuster
granite ivy
tbf, siege depends so little on mouse control that you can be ascended still struggle on plat
astral dagger
idk we can play
its coinflip
but we can xd
uh
hearls.
dw i cant give you smurfs name for next 30 days xd
mild turtle
CRACKBH_XD is his smurfs name
astral dagger
nice
what rank is that ?
oh well
nice
still have like a lvl 15 acc with 100% wr XD
nah unranked is shit
for lvls
cuz you cant dodge aids lobbies
nice
mild turtle
only person that plays tcsg on goyo
astral dagger
subhuman
astral dagger
@static sentinel hehe XD
astral dagger
🧕
mild turtle
cyns mum XD XD
astral dagger
XD
mild turtle
astral dagger
mild turtle
mild turtle
what do i get when i server boost this server?
lime wyvern
role
harsh sierra
nah im na
but we can work stuff out
dosent matter what region or rank or anything just dm me for the link
mild turtle
cant see the haters
mild turtle
just had some guy in our ranked game trying to convince us about his theory that jews are ruling all the banks and are gonna take over the world and ruin our life XD
astral dagger
mild turtle
conspiracy theorists now picking up new member in low elo ranked game in siege i guess
astral dagger
both gameplay and voice other do be equaly disturbing in that clip
mild turtle
cyn do be looking muslim tho :D :D
astral dagger
:D :D
mild turtle
:D :D
lime wyvern
sarry
coarse valeBOT
GG @lime wyvern, you just advanced to level 18 !
mild turtle
cyn
since you are gone we are on winning strike
told you not losing a single game tonight @static sentinel
astral dagger
8 game winning streak
mild turtle
why be hardstuck plat when you could get good and hit dia
astral dagger
XD
mild turtle
u2
astral dagger
XD
mild turtle
grinding your acc from low copper to gold in 1 sitting feels like playing through siege
astral dagger
mood
granite ivy
Guess who’s d2 now 
inland lark
Who?
inland lark
Idk who?
granite ivy
;-;
vivid jolt
Can officially confirm: Zofia Compensator is the way.
(w/ vert)
Skylights are the worst map design feature.
night radish
Stop uploading mp4s lol i cant watch them on my phone
noble belfry
clean target switch
lime wyvern
toast u literally have health off
astral dagger
my friend hacks og gamer tags and look what he got recently https://twitter.com/kkyooo_/status/1288549781527318531?s=20
worn wagon
don't think toast will be happy with that as a moderator @astral dagger
astral dagger
i mean i didn't say it
lime wyvern
not too late to delete 😉
worn wagon
don't think he will be happy with that either
astral dagger
i mean mini posted a tweet of a guy saying it so what's diffrent?
astral dagger
uh oh
vivid jolt
I do play without HUD.
Except compass and nade indicators.
Everything else I take off.
astral dagger
went from plat to copper V and now going up to plat again
account has seen it all XD
XD
vivid jolt
Good MMR system. 👍🏼
astral dagger
@vivid jolt right? I can legit play through 90% of the ranked ladder twice in just a few hours
mild turtle
30 games and youve seen it all
vivid jolt
Everyone should start at Bronze V and at most place Silver V if you win all 10 placements.
Don’t care. Should be a barebones grind.
mild turtle
maybe not S5
maybe high silver or low gold at max
but you get less points per game instead of around 90 just 40 or smth
would balance out all the ppl having luck and getting carried that end up in plat but are utter garbage
vivid jolt
You should only change 15-20 elo per game. It should be a death grind to get the highest rank in the game. Only the people who have the most amount of time and dedication to consistently win matches should be able to achieve it, and naturally that will only be the best / pro players.
The inexperienced and those who don’t put in the time should be forced to the lower ranks where they are fit.
Ubi sincerely needs to drop their Microsoft TrueSkill elo system. It doesn’t work.
astral dagger
?
mild turtle
coarse valeBOT
GG @mild turtle, you just advanced to level 5 !
astral dagger
Early season games are all that matter
So losing even 1 of 10 games is very frustrating for me
If ranked was normal where as long as you win more than you lose you are okay I would actually play ranked
Atm I win my placements and place diamond in like 12 games and never touch ranked again because it has a shit elo system that promotes that type of behaviour
And if I ever do play ranked its on a smurf not because I enjoy playing lower ranks (even though plat 3s are pretty much better than pro league players) but because I can only enjoy ranked when I literally give less than a fuck what happens to my elo so elo is "removed" from ranked
Ranked would be more fun if there was no elo compared to its current state
Which only promotes search baiting, placing and never playing or smurfing
Atm the elo system makes you feel like a loser unless you play with people you know 100% you won't lose a single game with
Since you are punished for grinding games vai massive elo gain losses
And losing more elo than you gain through winning
So there really isn't a point to play ranked unless you A. Truly don't care less about elo or rank
B. Want to get diamond or whatever rank early season and then play on a smurf for the rest of the season.
To make ranked worthwhile they need to make the gaps between ranks far greater, make the max placeable far lower and keep elo gain/loss consistent so grinders can get as much elo as they want and people who start of a season badly have a chance to recover
Then again this is coming from someone who actually cares about their rank so it might be different for other people
Atm ranked is a pass time for people who don't want to play casual, I feel like in other games the ranked system is a much more legitimate show of skill
mortal notch
@astral dagger ah yes, spectator desync means the game is terrible
astral dagger
nah just interesting that they cant even get that to work
the game is terrible for a lot different reasons
mild turtle
the game is terrible in its current state
no color blind mode after 5 years
basically says it all how much they care :D :D
astral dagger
both (especially) on the technical side and on the gameplay side
mild turtle
questionable balancing changes, questionable new ops, no client side skins
broken uniforms in the game, you dont know what you are shooting at
game is horrible as a comp game :D :D
just sound as an example shows how little works
raw fox
is toast talkin about a apex style mmr system for siege? with an elo buy-in?
worn wagon
imo
Everyone should start at Bronze V and at most place Silver V if you win all 10 placements.
@vivid jolt that is a really bad system
I think you should achieve top rank in 50-70 games max
this should be possible
the amount of grind in apex is just pointless
the main issue isn't elo
it isn't even maps
it is how people play it
raw fox
i dont think an apex style mmr system would work as well in r6 mostly bc dictates how players play in ranked
some people would grind with fragging ops and get their frag and not be penalized by it and it would punish support players
bc they cant get their frags
raw fox
the method of elo distribution should remain ambiguous except for rounds won/lost
kills and KOST should remain hidden
if they were to implement it
valorant's mmr style of distribution would be ideal
worn wagon
I mean
raw fox
because it initially places it on individual performance first before weighing in more on teamwork in higher elo
IMO
its still has flaws tho
worn wagon
How many games does it take a predator(or whatever top rank is) to achieve dia 2 @raw fox ?
raw fox
probably 200 ish or 7 days of talented grinding
mostly due to the rng nature of loot/circles/players
worn wagon
imo 200 games is way too much for siege
worn wagon
cuz ranked will never matter in comp enviroment, you only play it to play the game
I'd dm 90% of the time I play ranked instead
raw fox
a faceit system works the best for 5v5 tac shooters
worn wagon
BTR10s was good when it started
raw fox
i miss the game i played 3 years ago
this isnt it anymore
im so glad i left when apex was poppin
apex does not give me depression like this gmae
worn wagon
did you play comp in siege(if yes which region)?
raw fox
nope
fleeting interest after burnt horizon
apex came out after invite and thats where i put my energy into learning a new game
astral dagger
lol
i was tracking the window and got stuck on the bed next to me btw
incase you wonder why my xhair was in a shitty spot haha
Yeah i love this game but it's a pile of shit for a 10/10 ign, tier 1 esport, AAA title from a multi billion dollar studio that is 5 years old
I'd be very happy if at least they had basic things that even non competitive games have
thats what i've been saying as well bro
games ran by terrible people with no clue what they're doing
Like color blind mode, no years persistent game breaking bugs, functioning audio for example, no pay 2 win cosmetics etc
Practice mode or even community modding support
If they opened a workshop for modders half of the work would be done for them
Cosmetics really are a cancer for these AAA studios
All they see is money from the cosmetics and as long as they make money they don't particularly care I guess
I just think If youre an esports title and major esports events (which is where you showcase your game BTW) there is constant rehosts from sound and visual bugs or players using banned (by the hosts not ubisoft) skins its a bad look
At least have the minimum standards which is as bug free as possible and competitive integrity
In soccer the ball doesn't disappear every 10 minutes, the opposing team cant wear your uniforms and you don't go deaf randomly at any time until the game is over
the amounts of things that disable your sound in this game
are fucking stupid
Audio is a #1 priority
I legitimately get better sound propagation in rust or sea of thieves
Or even call of duty
the propagation itself
is kinda fine for me
but the times you have 0 sound
are so fucking cacerous
For me it's absolutely shit and I have top notch audio equipment
Regardless I really expect more from a multi billion dollar AAA studio
we all do
I played modern warfare coming from a studio of comparable calibre and I get no bugs, no game breaking bs and monthly patches
From a run and gunner shooter for 13 yos on xbox
monthly patches of 200 gb
but ye
I bet you r6 makes much more money than cod or apex or anything through cosmetics alone
ye siege is in the
top 5 of most earning yearly
iirc
They say they are struggling to push these patches and fixes out as well as balancing changes but I don't see it fast enough for a studio so big
wdym
not fast enough
an issue emerges
they announce the fix
it comes 1 or 2 seasons later
atleast
XD
its not just slow, its a total joke
Sound has been broken for 5 years, barricades were broken for 4 years, seasonal uniforms are still a problem
imagine not having 5 year old bugs that still reappear
Operators are busted for half a year to a year at a time
lets see how many seasons ak12 nerf will take
@astral dagger speaking of shitty siege
or maybe we could messure that time period in twitch f2 nerfs that come in the meantime
I'm sorry but fortnite fixes this stuff in weeks
black and white is coolk
AHAHAH
i had that
aswell
I was watching pl and literally 2 rehosts in 1 game
First the stream had constant mute jammer noise
And then kanto has no noise
sounds about right
its so
fucking
pathetic
On the biggest stage where you show how great your game can be and it's constantly falling apart I don't get it
Where or who are the changes going through to be so slow in progress
they arent worked on in the first place
Surely such a big studio can outsource help if they are struggling with simple changes
i doubt theres any instance keeping ready changes back
they just dont work on shit
in time
Either they are scared to make change because they keep getting backlash or they genuinely don't care because they meet their economic requirements through cosmetics
"cuz they keep getting backlash"
then just
do it
right
Like they said they would add map bans to ranked 2 season ago
like its their job
and ofc not everyone likes every change
but being afraid to comunicate with the community cuz of backlash
is such a failure
No because they always make these changes with little or no explanation and when the changes come you know thats how it will be for the next 6 months
At least they were quick with ying balancing
shit like
buck nade removal
NO ONE
gets it
till today
it makes no sense
But they get too much praise for changing a number value
I get it
I don't like it though since I was a buck main
well ye
no one likes it
He can do vertical from below and much quicker than sledge
So he needed a nerf to make sledge different in a way I guess
well sledge was diff before
since buck cant destroy utility
All they need to do is explain their changes, come out with changes quicker for a studio of their size and actually consult people who play the game for a living instead of consulting their balancing director who probably has been playing kapkan in silver for the past 2 years
yes
ahhaha btw
kapkan in low elo
actually has like 100% presence
i see that shit every game on my alt
I see them trying to revive all these unused operators by padding them with grenades or whatever and its stupid
Work on what you already have
Instead of worrying about why diamonds won't play this new shitty operator I worked so hard on
I see them trying to revive all these unused operators by padding them with grenades or whatever and its stupid
was about to say that ye
I'm very happy they are changing to 1 op a season
they give nades to every op
well the op releases are also mostly really questionable
i dont see why we needed a melusi
i dont see why we needed ace whos entire idea is to make smth like hardbreaching more simple
i still think oryx is beyond useless
Underused ops, slightly more powerful guns, which operator has c4 or impacts, which operator is 3 speed instead of 2 or 1. These things aren't breaking the game or hurting people's experience but this is where I see 80% of the dev teams focus
ah yes the speed thing
idk just make all ops same speed
Busted operator gadgets and skins, busted sound, game breaking bugs and exploits should be their focus
shit is beyond irrelevant
aim is crispy today holy
i barely play a game
where i dont see a shitty skin
that makes me not see what i killed
or not see the enemy at all
how prominent the issue is, is actually rediculous
yet we dont get a single word from the devs
I've been playing this game for 6500 hours and I still don't know who I killed
even tho everyone saw how praised the proleague skin changes are
I literally run default uniform on all my ops to spare people the confusion because it's bs
ye i run default cuz i couldnt care less
you prob also run same seasonal gunskin on all weapons for 6000 hours 
Yeah
Idk I have played 10 games* of ranked this season because all my friends keep bitching about crazy bugs
games*
?
Yeah I'm tired
well its not bitching
the amount of crazy bugs
is stupid
my aim is on today wtf
I've only got 1800 hours in csgo but I can't remember ever getting a bug in that game
watched one of the latest pengu vids the other day, he called smth buggy and his chat didnt even get what he ment "i play this game professionally i probaply see bugs where you guys dont even know smth is wrong"
its actually funny
because a lot of ppl prob dont know the bugs
I agree with what pengu said, it's not a problem of bugs or issues that are here and now, it's just that they have always been here or reappear ever season for years and years
ye
And I feel like we make no progress on the polish of the game and take steps back with balancing and operator decisions for the most part
They seriously need and operation health
the sheer amount of qol changes the game needs
not even touching balancing or anything op related
is dumb
5 years
of development
They are making changes but I feel like on the wrong things
@fervent moon watch them clips boi
idk since last few seasons
i rly havent felt any changes to the better
For example making entire new maps, skins and game mechanics for a 5 day event, changing unneeded bs like nade utility, operator speed, slight damage changes etc. While the qol side of the game suffers
ah yes the map thing
instead of reacting to the feedback to a new map immediately and change it
they leave it in for 1 year
then delete it from the pool
to rework it
I remember when valve released the "canal" map in csgo they made changes to it every week to improve it
And only after months of change they removed it from ranked pool
I remember when valve released the "canal" map in csgo they made changes to it every week to improve it
ye thats what i mean
In r6 they just leave it in a shit state or remove it from the game for years
leave it in, react to the feedback and change stuff around till it plays good
talking about Kanal
that map is not going anywhere
0 competitive potential imo
plays fine in ranked
but anything else its just useless lmao
I'm pretty sure custom animations, entire new maps and mechanics as well as all new skins and art for something that no one cares about after the first few days takes more time than implementing ranked map ban, practice range or color blind mode
well event release is an imediate profit
it comes out and they cash in a ton
qol changes not so much
no one goes "oh color blind mode although i can see just fine, lets buy some skins"
Yes clearly they are making their profits but everyone who actually cares about their game as a game not a social event is getting screwed
hence we dont get qol changes
they shouldve been implemented at launch years ago
has been just fine since then, so they leave it
p sure having a better game will fuel sales long term
When pengu did the savesiege thing they did all this PR apologies stuff and sending their social media assassin bikinibohdi but I don't buy it
but its a long process and they would never have noticable increase in profit by every little qol change they make
Actions speak louder than words
theres not perspective
yeah i dont buy it either
same when they did like 3 big blog posts on cheaters
still got closets every 2nd game
siege becomes unplayable at like 1am or later
I understand other people's cheaters issues but I've seen like 3 cheaters in all my time of siege
on eu
its disgusting
I'm just very lucky I guess
early morning hours eu
is the worst experience ever
by far
we need a turkish / russian server and a middle eastern one
Yah I was plat 1 on EU last season and I didn't get cheaters
I'm just lucky
there isnt a reason that you are allowed to play on consistent 130ms ping
just get that shit of the sever
same with region swapping
Idrc about region swapping if people are high ping on my server it's just easy peaks
It's good all ranks are connected I guess
well yes
still shouldnt be a thing in the first place
no one needs region swapping
steel pumice
velvet fern
God damnit Lmao
velvet fern
That was intense
astral dagger
most definitely
vivid jolt
I think you should achieve top rank in 50-70 games max
@worn wagon AHA--No. That's even worse than it is now and we already have the worst MMR system of any Esport. Other competitive Esports are far better with harder. It takes 200+ wins in a row without losses to reach max rank in CS. It takes 36 wins to go up a division in League and there are 9 Leagues (324wins in a row). Siege takes 17. 17 for Diamond.
Rank should not reset every season, but instead you should get increased elo gain/loss to rebalance your rank. It should take hundreds and hundreds of games to reach the max rank so only the best players can achieve that-- because, y'know, that's what the best rank is for... the best most dedicated players?
worn wagon
You don't understand
In mobas ranked means smth
the issues with FPS ranked seems unsolvable
even CS etc
rank's meaningless
vivid jolt
That's just entirely so far missing the point.
worn wagon
it will never be even close to comp
vivid jolt
"It's suboptimal so let's just make it as shitty as we can"
worn wagon
mmr doesn't make it bad lol
vivid jolt
Yes, in a team-based comp game where coordinated operator synergy is the focal point, having unequally skilled teammates and enemies does make it bad.
astral dagger
@vivid jolt thats not how league works exactly tho
you can hit challenger with less
vivid jolt
I wouldn't know, but spare me the details. The point is it doesn't take 17 matches.
astral dagger
well ye
XD
nah but in league you can skip promos etc
skip divisions
all that stuff
but btw
league mmr and rank also rly arent the same
astral dagger
like if you are smurfing in low elo in leauge and are still in like gold, you mmr can be plat or dia
so you get in those lobbies
no exo rank could mean smth
with a good system
ofc its meaningless if the thing is beyond flawed
worn wagon
ok, what are you issues with rank?
worn wagon
more certain issues
astral dagger
half the ppl in plats are legit bots
you can skip through the ladder in 17 games
besides champion
rank means absolutely nothing
it doesnt represent skill
cuz its inaccurate
just due ot how ranks are spaced
how you gain mmr
etc
how stacks are handeled
it infaltes elo a lot
exactly
when i turn of my brain every season
and play like a retard
worn wagon
My issues are:
- R6:S ranked and R6:S are 2 different games, as different as overwatch and cs go
- See #1
- See #2
- See #3
- See #4
- See #5
- See #6
- See #7
- Fivestacks
- Maps
- Rollback
my honest oppinion
astral dagger
^^
worn wagon
also similar to meepeys etc
astral dagger
theres no comp game
vivid jolt
Oh God, where do you begin?
-No Solo/Party queue playlists or matchmaking
-Placement elo starts you in Silver 1 halfway through the ranks
-You can place Platinum 3 (the 4th highest rank in the game) after 10 matches
-A level 50 with a 0.4k/d who got carried in 10 placements can play with me as a level 295 1.4 in P3/2.
-The Elo decay over games played is a horrendous system that degrades improvement of skill over time and forces you to get hardstuck
-Gaining/losing 105 elo per match is ridiculous at the start of a season
-There's no elo decay for static Champ accounts
-Rank resets down to 3500 at most every 3 months making progression in rank irrelevant.
-60% of the playerbase is placed in Gold 1-3 (pop% may have changed)
-Different ruleset than competitive
-No seasonal rewards, but ehh not important
-MMR rollback system sucks with cheaters (tons of issues there)
-No individual elo shift depending on your performance; I can go 0-10 and lose just as much as my teammate who went 18-8 and planted defuser 5 times.
astral dagger
in which rank means less than in siege
@vivid jolt ye toast we did that list before
just didnt want to search up
worn wagon
Well for me all your points aren't even 5% as important as my #1
and the latest one is just a yoke in siege
worn wagon
nothing's worth than 90% of the "competitive" gamemode playing a different game than the actual competitive playerbase
worn wagon
and in siege individual elso is bs
astral dagger
^
vivid jolt
"Ranked is a different game than comp so it's not important"
Well no fucking diddly shit. Why do I have to spell this out? I don't understand why so many people cannot fathom that if you make max rank a severe grind that only the best and most dedicated players can achieve, then that means only the best and most dedicated players will achieve it (excluding cheats). Meaning the best and most dedicated players will be playing against each other. Meaning it will be more competitive and better gameplay. Because, holy shit guess what, competitive players like to play more competitively against competitive players. Will it be played like 10mans? No. Will be much better than pickleman2453 winning 16 games and shitting on Beaulo because he's sitting in a corner? Yes.
Insane how that works out.
Like how the hell do I have to explain this?
worn wagon
"Ranked is a different game than comp so it's not important"
Well no fucking diddly shit. Why do I have to spell this out? I don't understand why so many people cannot fathom that if you make max rank a severe grind that only the best and most dedicated players can achieve, then that means only the best and most dedicated players will achieve it (excluding cheats). Meaning the best and most dedicated players will be playing against each other. Meaning it will be more competitive and better gameplay. Because, holy shit guess what, competitive players like to play more competitively against competitive players. Will it be played like 10mans? No. Will be much better than pickleman2453 winning 16 games and shitting on Beaulo because he's sitting in a corner? Yes.
Insane how that works out.
@vivid jolt yeah instead of 0.0001% similarity it'll be 1% similarity. Not worth it IMO
vivid jolt
Cool.
vivid jolt
Nah it's just I've had this conversation so many times and every time they respond "no it's just not worth it" but then will complain about how bad Ranked is every single time Siege is brought up.
Like make up your mind.
astral dagger
idk @vivid jolt ppl dont seem to realize what impact a good ranking system has
worn wagon
my 2 cents are above, support by some ppl both high in siege and fps games in general.. maybe not to that extreme, but same logic
astral dagger
shots been on today holy even in tarkov and pubg i've been hitting all my shots
if only i can do this all my days
mental snow
yall bitch about the state of siege and how unfun it is and when someone gives a suggestion you just say no its fine the way it is
inland lark
Yo this may sound dumb but i dont use my utilities( stun, smokes etc)often in real matches and perhaps thats why i die so much. I rely too much on my primary
Anything i can fix this?
long python
why do people use 4:3, especially some pro's when it looks like actual ass
astral dagger
cuz no one gives a fuck about looks ?
If u care about looks then siege isnt the game for u
astral dagger
just won a game of pubg with pistol only xD
was trying for ages to find someone to snipe with a pistol xD
granite ivy
why do people use 4:3, especially some pro's when it looks like actual ass
@long python because it makes targets wider
I mean that’s really there is to it
Plus, hFOV is absurdly low for a game like this on 16:9 unless you run extremely low FOV which ends up looking even more like ass
vivid jolt
3:2 masterrace.
vivid jolt
Also 
vivid jolt
A short story.
mental snow
be better
vivid jolt
Just backpacked randoms for 9 rounds only to be mugged match point 5v1.
No, that's what was the trigger. Capitao'd the last guy off so we could plant. Whole team ran into it.
warped birch
I was just doing my daily rounds, then I came across Toast's rampage.
I wasn't disappointed.
10/10 would come here again. 👍
astral dagger
@vivid jolt I am diamond in 11 games
I am the top rank (except champ) in 11 games that fuckin retarded
And I'm nowhere near the best player
vivid jolt
@warped birch Par for the course, here. Don't ever stick with the same game for 5 years. It'll make you crack.
@astral dagger Thank you for utilizing a full 3 braincells to recognize how ridiculous that is. Many people seem to think that's normal for competitive games for some reason.
vivid jolt
By the way, if anybody cares to know the barricade destruction per caliber, they are:
To destroy any barricade size
DMR cal - 7 shots
Heavy pistol cal - 14 shots
Pistol/SMG cal - 17 shots
AR cal - 20 shots
Won't revolutionize your game, but maybe might find it interesting.
vivid jolt
Explain.
https://streamable.com/9umgl5
lime wyvern
Toxic toast back at it again
inland lark
?
vivid jolt
It definitely cleared the window frame.
vivid jolt
The servers are horrendous lately.
inland lark
Wanted to play some games w my friend but i keep getting errors
Veri sad
night radish
Why does an SMG open barricades better than an AR
Why the fuck does it take an entire magazine
vivid jolt
A pistol opens barricades with less bullets than an AR. That is an odd concept.
It seems I just cannot get away from it.
...Solo queuing makes me question why I even attempt.
astral dagger
IM GOING OT AGAINST GOLDS IN A SCRIM
vivid jolt
Golds are the hardest opponents in the game. Only natural.
astral dagger
yeah bro these r golds yeah golds just do that
astral dagger
yeah im mad
noble belfry
wait 4-5 as well, damn gold tactics
night radish
Lmao
dawn coyote
as a gold, i can confirm golds are all aim no brain
inland lark
veryu
astral dagger
any eu wanna play got 3
astral dagger
@noble belfry yeah man we went 2-5 and won 7-5
they kept doing dumb shit like amaru rushing up site hatches
at least i didnt lose otherwise i would kms
noble belfry
Sounds rough
astral dagger
dont you love dying to this shit literally every time
vivid jolt
Casuals and recoil control. Ahah.
Those are the people that devs want to consider when discussing balancing.
granite ivy
I remember a twitter thread were someone was complaining to pengu about the f2’s recoil saying that only “pros” could control it and that was wrong
astral dagger
guys
i found the secret of shaiiko
he talked to get flanked
damn bro so to be a diamond you just have to put the crosshair on the enemy
vivid jolt
Literally the very first line and it's already bullshit.
After reading that article, I've never wanted to argue with a virtual piece of paper more.
Except this.
astral dagger
best part is where they say
that if you do 20 kills and lose
you dont deserve a win
and if you do 0 and win
you deserve it
granite ivy
Tbf, on paper the system assumes that you can do poorly but still help your team
granite ivy
Ik
astral dagger
XD
idk man
comments are smth else
"Hard to design"
its legit an if
its interesting how many ppl complain about smurfs tho
maybe if the mmr system wouldnt allow you to legit go from rank to rank like you want cuz it takes 17 games to play through the entire ladder
it wouldnt be such an issue
Idk why all these concepts of "hard to develop/implement/change/design/fix"
They are a multi billion dollar AAA publisher of a teir 1 esport title
They shouldn't be struggling with rollouts of basic stuff
night radish
^^^
astral dagger
People make it sound like they are an indie dev studio
split girder
Indie dev studio make better games (less bugs)
mental snow
Because they tend to care more about the product itself rather than how much money they can make from said product
vivid jolt
The real truth of the matter is Ubisoft is a very investment-lazy studio who is also suffering from tech debt. They made this game on the cheapest engine they could considering Siege itself was only produced to rebound an already failed project ("R6 Patriots"), and all of the ways they developed Siege to function are sloppy work-arounds and messy uncoordinated code. Obviously the more you add to interact with all that, the more that goes wrong. Only now after the years are they realizing they're suffering from that tech debt. It's why over time they reworked destruction physics, caliber destruction, matchmaking, lighting 7x, patch deployment, explosive propagation, and now sound. They have to rework all those systems from the ground up individually since they built it hastily on their shitty Anvil Next engine instead of being able to just tweak and "fix" it all like on normal engines. So it's not necessarily a problem of being "AAA enough" of a studio. It's about "how the hell do we untie all these knots and make sure they stay untied?"
The worst part is when the execs decide what's a financially suitable investment to fix or not...
vivid jolt
A wild casual spotted in the midst of discussing balancing with another of his kind. A true specimen.
lime wyvern
vivid jolt
Factual.
astral dagger
indeed
vivid jolt
Doesn't matter what the map is, Thatcher is banned in Plat because they saw NiP do it.
astral dagger
XD
rapid nebula
since the invitational thatcher has been banned every single ranked game i've played
runic rapids
So apparently its a myth that 83 ADS is 1:1 with hip fire because of the FOV change, what is the proper ADS to get 1:1 1x ADS with hip fire sens?
vivid jolt
What FOV change?
runic rapids
when you ads
vivid jolt
It's still 84.
runic rapids
ok, ty
astral dagger
ppl smh
granite ivy
It's still 84.
@vivid jolt YAY TOAST SAYS 84, NOW Y’ALL CAN STOP BOTHERING ME FOR BEING ANAL ABOUT 84 VS 83
long python
seriously tho why would u use 4:3 when there's 3:2
astral dagger
@vivid jolt thatcher is banned in plat because plats cant bandit or kaid trick for shit
astral dagger
worn wagon
@static sentinel can I have a link(is 100 ads on .0166667 1:1)?
night radish
Plats cant bandit trick? Since when lol
I just like banning thatcher cuz it makes the game more fun
astral dagger
yes plats cant bandit trick
also im so done with 1shs
actually being shat on by the worst players all morning
inland lark
i used to play bandit when i started out r6, but upon knowing that i had to bandit trick i barely played him ever again
🙂
vivid jolt
Not true maaan I'm an absolute DEITY at Bandit tricking. Deadass I'm the best Bandit tricker I know. I love it when Ace is banned over Thatcher.
So sad that Ace makes Bandit entirely obsolete. Went from essential on sites to one of the worst ops in the game now.
inland lark
pl4t only
astral dagger
inland lark
i mean he already said "not true maaan"
must be plat 3 i think?
since its considered gold still..
astral dagger
actually being shat on by the worst players all morning
@astral dagger good feature
doesnt allow for a lot of rng in gunfights at all :D
@vivid jolt
n1
inland lark
n1
vivid jolt
astral dagger
best game ever*
solid rampart
@astral dagger gpw experience pt2?
astral dagger
yeet it
inland lark
so that i can get my large mousepad
astral dagger
i just aim better with g203
solid rampart
i wish it was slightly bigger
its the lightest mouse ive ever used though
it feels amazing
noble belfry
What mouse did you use before?
solid rampart
I like
mild turtle
the german screaming that im slowly losing it makes it even better
XD
no its other acc
other one is flyingraccoon69
this one is 39
astral dagger
imagine dieing
mild turtle
this one is the skull one renamed
astral dagger
on this
angle
to a fucking prefire xd
@static sentinel https://streamable.com/5253co
lesion not happy XD
he just gets wide swinged at with confidence
xd
long python
scoring on gang
astral dagger
just got called a retard and dumb cos i asked for per optic sens in tarkov chat but they know way more than me about aim wanna know why? cos they use the g502 and use the dpi switch button to change sens cos thats just great and all
bet
@static sentinel https://streamable.com/mhk3sp
guy in our lobby has aimlock btw
night radish
yikes
lime wyvern
what if hes just joking
lime wyvern
ah
astral dagger
mmm csjoe
inland lark
should i add in crouching for the movement guide? @mental snow
astral dagger
astral dagger
playing 2v5 thunt be like
cav has to be the most
low elo operator there is
only ppl in gold or below think that shit is good
astral dagger
lime wyvern
only ppl in gold or below think that shit is good
@astral dagger cav is good in low elo. People just solo push and have bad aim.
mental snow
if thats how you play in game then go for it @inland lark
there's a lot more to movement in siege than just what i put in the guide, its just designed to help you purely with the mechanical aspect of it and how to practice practical replication in thunt
astral dagger
I think movement is something that can only be learned through practice
Thunt won't give you good movement imo
Getting your ass handed to you in ranked or scrim many times over will give you the sense to know the best positioning or movement in each scenario
The only thing that you can practice is face checking I guess
mental snow
No
You can definitely practice the mechanical aspect of movement
But like i said
Movement in siege is more nuanced than just knowing how to Q/E and strafe
astral dagger
Ye you can practice the mechanical side
which was vladrs intend with the doc from the beginning iirc
Getting your ass handed to you in ranked or scrim many times over will give you the sense to know the best positioning or movement in each scenario
this is smth different
By movement you mean quickpeeking and strafing etc?
he means what mentioned in the doc
theres clips for reference
just look at those
astral dagger
ive been playing 5:3 blackbars lately
dawn coyote
plat guy on our team bot fragged
raven stump
dawn coyote
idk why he deserve plat though
vivid jolt
He's right.
I've said it for ages. Golds are the hardest enemies to play against.
No contest.
fallen raptor
yo, i have a question, anyone care to answer?
vivid jolt
...You have to ask the question first.
fallen raptor
Would doing a game-specific routine once a day everyday for a week, then last day of each week i do a fundamental routine once be efficient?? (Sorry for asking too many questions, I don't wanna develop bad habits, ive started today)
That game specific routine is siege's routine btw
Asked in another channel but no response lol
vivid jolt
Sure. Practice is practice. If it's a fundamental routine that still relates to your gameplay in any way, then it's still useful. You're the only one who can determine what is the most efficient practice for what your needs are, but any 'general' routine will still be useful practice.
Also never apologize for asking questions. That's what this server is for.
Nobody learns without asking questions.