Ok thanks
#siege
brittle mural
frank compass
microshot is ok, 1w2t reload is good, targetacquisition kinda ass, reflex flick kinda ass, pat target can be a good alternative to clsi (maybe)
astral dagger
If you want good aim get some quality sleep, eat healthy and play thunt 2 hours every morning with zof pistol hs only on house 🙃
brittle mural
Im already dia on r6
astral dagger
Yeah
frank compass
I also dont think kovaaks is overly useful for siege
astral dagger
Nuts
frank compass
thunt good for movement practice, angle clearing, and acceptable for aim
playing the actual game is going to be
most beneficial for siege
astral dagger
Well do them more? Kovaaks pretty much did nothing notable for my Ingame aim, thunt gives me much better results
frank compass
in all honesty
for siege specifically thunt is a better use of time than kovaak
like xhair placement and positioning are far more important than any sort of mouse control you gain
from playing kovaaks
and kovaaks isnt going to give you insane in game aim
brittle mural
As I said i have 4k hours on r6 I dont Need xhair placement i already have it
coarse valeBOT
GG @brittle mural, you just advanced to level 4 !
astral dagger
If I was to suggest kovaaks for siege I would only suggest 1w5t pasu tracking small and 1w6t te small
Since that's what I played a lot
frank compass
Drago what rank were you
when you started
and where are you now
because the benefit of kovaaks is relative
astral dagger
@brittle mural if you're already experienced in rainbow six and play at a diamond level I would suggest maybe trying to get into some decent level of comp? What will make you better than you are right now is knowing the game better than you already do
frank compass
yea Im in the same camp as Mini
astral dagger
You should know siege is only 20% gunfights
brittle mural
I usually play with spoit and his AIM Is godly
silver mulch
My precision on HS went up a lot
astral dagger
I disagree
brittle mural
He use macro tho
astral dagger
Spoit is just the best at this game 🙂
silver mulch
I think spoits aim is pretty good
brittle mural
Cuz he use macro xd
silver mulch
At least from his videos
frank compass
His mouse control really isnt that impressive
well ofc videos and montages make a player look very good
silver mulch
I mean
frank compass
that's the point
spoit just has good movement, pretty good decision making, and solid positioning
silver mulch
You can't really tell if people have good mouse control from r6
frank compass
I mean you can have a pretty general idea
astral dagger
I have watches some of his streams, he's definitely a top mechanically skilled player
brittle mural
I was with him in a game and he was with smg 12 , with no compensator he managed to have 0 recoil so he Is using macro
silver mulch
lmao
astral dagger
Also the better at comp you get the shitter you will look in montages
brittle mural
Talking about the vigil s
frank compass
smg12 doesnt even have barrel attachments
silver mulch
yea exactly
astral dagger
Exhibit A: beaulo
frank compass
and is extremely rng sprays
some days you can be a god with it
others youre trash
astral dagger
Beaulo montages kind of suck these days :(
frank compass
beaulo montages look worse because of 4:3
stretch res makes flicks look so much less impressive
and also not ape'ing 24/7
i do not miss old beaulo terrorizing me in ranked
🙂
quick lean days were not fun to experience
as a new player on pc when playing beaulo
astral dagger
@vivid jolt thunt world record on new house when?
astral dagger
Let's gooooo
normal bloom
thunt tinnitus nitros are big aids
astral dagger
thunt flashbangs are the fucking worst
vivid jolt
You have no idea how many positions on the leaderboard of fastest THunts I now have... But none are the 1st.
I'm so upset.
vivid jolt
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHmyfuckinghelliamSOOVERnitrocells
astral dagger
That's a world record
vivid jolt
The only word record I have today is most deaths to nitro cells in a single 3-hour span.
SIKE, THAT'S A WORLD RECORD FASTEST SOLO THUNT. LET'S GOOO. 43:28s
Though I massive choked at least 3 secs. Unsatisfied.
noble belfry
damn, wait does siege have a speedrun.com?
Oh damn it does
You just broke a 7month record, time to update your bio to offical r6 speedrunner
vivid jolt
The 2-Time. 
🏆🏆
noble belfry
Are you going to sumbit it to make it offical?
eager arrow
i have the worlds fastest
vivid jolt
No. I'll wait until I one day make a video out of it. That way nobody will try to beat it in the meantime. I now have beaten like 15 out of the top 20 times on the board, though.
eager arrow
i have beaten all 20 \
vivid jolt
This challenge means absolutely nothing. It's just the perseverance to say that I'm going to beat it, and endure it enough to follow through.
inland lark
microshot is ok, 1w2t reload is good, targetacquisition kinda ass, reflex flick kinda ass, pat target can be a good alternative to clsi (maybe)
@frank compass i mean can replace targetacq with vladr's
i thought vladr's one is better
vivid jolt
Vladr Acquisition is actually my favorite TA scenario.
inland lark
its like 2 in 1..though thats not the main point
vivid jolt
I strongly dislike the other TA scenarios. I haven't played VA much but it's quite decent.
Actually I'll add that to the recommended scens.
inland lark
i still occasionally play that scen
night radish
So for VA, do you shoot moving one then flick to stationary one or opposite
vivid jolt
If you let the static one decay, you lose points IIRC. The pasu bot is permanent until shot and respawned.
astral dagger
Hit them with the left right goodnight
inland lark
opposite@night radish
@vivid jolt but every time i tried to shoot the static target instantly after it decayed i lose another point for not hitting anything lol
inland lark
what is it?
astral dagger
dude at this moment i know so many people with g203
vivid jolt
If anyone was interested in what it looked like (Excuse the 6:30am aim; was fried after 4hr straight):
https://streamable.com/ygmube
astral dagger
I could get a house world record with my eyes closed
astral dagger
is the new season live
vivid jolt
Try it, Mini. It's really not as straightforward as you'd like it to be. :/ (or don't because it's pointless)
The season should be live soon. Maintenance is at:
XB1: 8 AM EDT / 12:00 UTC
PS4: 9 AM EDT / 12:00 UTC
PC: 10 AM EDT / 14:00 UTC
vivid jolt
I disagree with this.
https://twitter.com/Mello_R6/status/1272847446067027968?s=20
astral dagger
they didnt change the rank maps?
noble belfry
Why would you introduce a top cap
snow marsh
tf
noble belfry
what benefit does that have?
astral dagger
top cap?
vivid jolt
Ubisoft and well-structured matchmaking don't coexist within the same realm.
Saw this comment on twitter and initially thought it was dumb, but the more I thought about it the more I think the overall concept has some interesting potential. Thoughts?
"One suggestion - Can we please make Snipers and DMRs be able to destroy ANY bulletproof piece of equipment after x amount of shots.
Maybe 5-10 shots for Glaz and Kali. And 20 for DMRs.
Gives these ops and weapon category a real tangible"
I don't think spamming 30 rounds of a DMR into a Maestro cam is necessarily great gameplay but considering that normally dealing with all of them is already not great gameplay, and Boobisoft is unlikely to provide an optimal counter that also gives good gameplay, I think the concept has some possibility.
I don't know, I never really considered Snipers countering bulletproof cams. May alleviate some of the annoying defender gadgets meta if tuned right? Glaz and Kali could actually be viable. Broadly speaking, of course.
granite ivy
what benefit does that have?
@noble belfry it makes you play 100 games before getting into champ, so it should stop people from getting champ in 30 games and then stop playing. It's kinda pointless but I don't think it's going to be an issue for "proper" champs
astral dagger
would be decent on twitch
astral dagger
So statistically you could beat a champ 5 stack 99 times and top frag but not be champ
👍
I don't think I like the new system
I usually play less than 100 ranked games a season and when I got my champ I did it in 30 games
granite ivy
well, if you're beating 99 champ stacks in a row I don't think you'll be too bothered by it
astral dagger
Without abusing the elo sys as well
granite ivy
yeah, but that's exactly what they want to stop
they want people in champ to play a substantial amount
or to have played, at least
astral dagger
If they want to make champ a grind increase the gaps between ranks
granite ivy
I don't see it as making it a grind, it's more about not being something that can be achieved in the first week
astral dagger
Make it so the max placeable rank is plat 3 and have it be 1000 elo in between every rank above plat
And reduce elo decay a ton
granite ivy
sure, but then those who grind and end up winning/losing 15mmr are fucked
astral dagger
That's why no one other than ranked stars can be fucked with ranked because by the time you have played those 100 games and are still managing in 4900~elo you are losing 3x the amount of elo you gain
coarse valeBOT
GG @astral dagger, you just advanced to level 25 !
granite ivy
ubi sees the current gaps as ok, they just want to stop people from getting champ in a week when the season is going to be +3 months long. i don't think it's a big issue, but it's a good way to solve it
astral dagger
Why should champ be the only rank that requires any grind
Diamond might as well be gold and champ in this current season is just people who abuse the system or place early season
Since its impossible when you are losing 3x the elo you gain after 100 games
granite ivy
look, I see where you're coming but I can kinda see how getting max rank in 30 games can be seen as a fluke and ubi want to stop that
astral dagger
Pretty much every champ I know has below 100 games by a fair margin unless they are a pro 5 stack of some sort
Their whole elo system is a fluke lol
granite ivy
diamond and plat can be made a grind too, but it's pointless since they aren't as desirable as champ
Pretty much every champ I know has below 100 games by a fair margin unless they are a pro 5 stack of some sort
@astral dagger maybe that's what they want, I wouldn't be oppossed tbh. diamond would be the highest for regular people and it'd be fine with a few tweaks ig
maybe the gap between p1 and diamond should be increased in that case tho
but that would inevitably make the gap between diamond and champ too small
astral dagger
You shouldnt be able to achieve diamond in like 12 games which is achieved legitimately very easily. Champ should be remade to the highest elo players past 4400 elo instead of being a separate rank
If you win all 10 placements you should be placed high gold and the elo difference between ranks should be increased a ton or the elo gain loss should stay stagnant and be much lower
Instead of having 15 games of 100+/-elo gain enabling you to get to the highest possible elo though cheating the system and then having shit elo gain and loss for the rest of the season
You should gain and lose like 25 elo all throughout the season
granite ivy
You shouldnt be able to achieve diamond in like 12 games which is achieved legitimately very easily. Champ should be remade to the highest elo players past 4400 elo instead of being a separate rank
probably, the mmr multiplier should start lower and have a higher minimum so that ranking up at any point throughout the season is possible
If you win all 10 placements you should be placed high gold and the elo difference between ranks should be increased a ton or the elo gain loss should stay stagnant and be much lower
I'm not so sure about that, if you combine a lower starting multiplier with this it'd make gold/low plat even more of a clusterfuck than it is now
You should gain and lose like 25 elo all throughout the season
making it constant wouldn't work too well since it would make the process too slow for high rank players and it wouldn't be enjoyable either for the golds against them
astral dagger
If I'm the first person past 4401 elo in the entire game as season starts I should be number 1 ranked champion, but as soon as 300 people or whoever many champs they want pass 4402 and I am no longer in same elo as the 300 people above my elo of 4401 I should become diamond since I'm no longer a top 300 elo player above 4400
Atm everyone below gold 1 is absolute dogshit at this game I'm sorry
So 90% of the ranks are not being used
Since everyone below mid gold is the same level of shit
High gold and plat/diamond are the only ranks being utilised as a "measure of skill"
granite ivy
If I'm the first person past 4401 elo in the entire game as season starts I should be number 1 ranked champion, but as soon as 300 people or whoever many champs they want pass 4402 and I am no longer in same elo as the 300 people above my elo of 4401 I should become diamond since I'm no longer a top 300 elo player above 4400
you can just have a top 100 and call it champ, whether you put a hard cutoff for a rank or limit the quantity in the end you can achieve the same result. I would be in favour of this tbh
astral dagger
And about the ranking "being too slow" csgo players can win 15 games without a rank up so I think they will manage :p
granite ivy
Yes, but CS has no resets (soft or hard) so once you get to global you won't have to go through the ranks arbitrarily
astral dagger
R6 also has a soft reset
So if you were diamond or champ you wouldn't have to grind as much
But it should be a grind
Locking away ranks from people who haven't played 100 matches is a shitty fix to a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place imo
Which is that people abuse or play the elo system to achieve high ranks with no effort
But even playing the system legitimately it's still wayyywayyy to easy to achieve high ranks
I could literally play ranked with a controller and no sound and achieve plat 3 and that's supposed to be a high level rank
A high level rank should be gold 2 or 1 and plat/diamond for actual good players
granite ivy
Locking away ranks from people who haven't played 100 matches is a shitty fix to a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place imo
i agree, which is why I think that the mmr multiplier should follow a different curve that doesn't make the early games so crucial
vivid jolt
Everyone should start at bottom fucking bronze, man. The highest rank in the game should only be achievable by those who spent more time grinding than anyone else in the game and are better than anyone else in the game.
astral dagger
Maybe I'm bias but I feel like plat 2 and up are the only ranks which indicate skill level, if you showed gameplay from a plat 3 or a gold 4 I couldn't tell you their ranks apart, same goes for a silver 1 or a copper 5
granite ivy
I could literally play ranked with a controller and no sound and achieve plat 3 and that's supposed to be a high level rank
well, the thing is that a fairly small portion of the player base is in p3 and that means that they "should" be better than the vast majority below them. it's not a ranking system issue as much as it's an issue of FPSs not being able to reward anything other than a win
vivid jolt
the thing is that a fairly small portion of the player base is in p3
Wrong. I believe over a 3rd of the player base was in P3 a couple seasons ago.
50-60% of all players are in Gold.
vivid jolt
Some tracker website released some stats a while ago I remember.
granite ivy
well, the thing is that a fairly small portion of the player base is in p3 and that means that they "should" be better than the vast majority below them. it's not a ranking system issue as much as it's an issue of FPSs not being able to reward anything other than a win
take a game like rocket league, 1v1 is the perfect example of game mode that purely rewards skill and the ranking system works exactly like siege does. meanwhile, in an FPS where you need to trust 4 apes and have a fuckton of variables it just doesn't work
Some tracker website released some stats a while ago I remember.
those stats only include people who looked themselves up
the actual rank distribution is in the game now anyway
astral dagger
The problem isn't bad teammates, the problem is that the ranked ladder is extremely easy
And 80% of champs abuse the elo system
granite ivy
it's not bad teammates, it's randomness and unpredictability
astral dagger
Achieving diamond is easy legitimately, achieving champ is very hard legitimately
It should be an even distribution of grind
granite ivy
the ranked ladder should be extremely easy in rocket league 1v1 as well since the mmr system is identical, but given how there's no randomness at all in a game that's purely physics based and where players have 100% control of what they're doing and see everything their opponent does, it ends up being an extremely good skill rating
astral dagger
Because currently pretty much everyone abuses early season elo gain, late night or early morning ranked, q sniping shit stacks, using unranked or scraping the 1000 elo difference or playing placements with low elo accounts
All effective ways of bullshitting your way into ranks that would otherwise require grind
granite ivy
Achieving diamond is easy legitimately, achieving champ is very hard legitimately
if it were the numbers would show it, the fact that it's easy for a small subset of the playerbase doesn't make it easy overall
astral dagger
Making them meaningless
granite ivy
you can't pay a lot of attention to ranks in an FPS like siege since they'll always be based on wins only and that doesn't correlate with actual individual skill too well
frank compass
I can tell the diff between copper and gold players
There isnt a large one
But it is noticeable
Copper to silver is a large skill gap
Silver to gold is a decent skill gap
Gold to low plat is not
Plat 3 to mid plat 2 is huge
astral dagger
Toast is just the personification of elitest mid plat ranked player 
frank compass
Mid plat 2 to plat 1/diamond is huge
astral dagger
I disagree
frank compass
Eternal plat 3s are my favorite players
astral dagger
Its very case by case after plat 2 since the elo system is rolling the dice early season
frank compass
I mean like consistently mini
Players who are consistently hitting those ranks
Not so much seasonally
astral dagger
Players who consistently hit ranks all do one thing which is win placements and never play ranked unless they get
frank compass
If im speaking comprehendible english
frank compass
Not really
Since Ive been on PC, Ive won between 4 and 9 placements every season
And been plat 1+ every season since white noise excluding voids edge
Placements matter a lot less now with the elo buffer
astral dagger
I'd say the difference between p1 and dia is that p1 players don't care who they play with
frank compass
Yea
100%
But the individual skill isnt very diff, if at all
The diff btwn dia and champ is mostly stack, hours, and luck as well
astral dagger
Usually early season I sit around plat 3 because I play with my friends a lot but when I go for diamond or champ I only play with good players and you can win like 15 games a day
frank compass
Yea Ive just been playing with whatever friends want to play since Op Health
astral dagger
What separates diamond and champ is abusing elo system 90% of the time
frank compass
Well
“Luck”
Who you play
When you play
Two massive factors for na and eu champs
Idk abt oce
astral dagger
Usually there is only like 2 good stacks on in high elo so you just have everyone on friends list and see when they are in a game to avoid them for ez elo
That's how there are so many champs I've never seen in my life in my region
frank compass
Na is different
Almost everyone good plays at the same time
And almost all decent players play eus unless theres like a hacker stack, then we swap
astral dagger
And I play a lot in diamond elo since I have 2 accounts both there and one with 200 games still diamond this season yet I see people in casual on a daily basis who are somehow champ that I've never seen
Which ruins the respect for the people who get these ranks legit
frank compass
Yea Ive seen lots of na dia who are casual mains
Because they just abuse the elo system and then play casual 24/7
I never understood that
astral dagger
Well once you get the rank you want no point even playing ranked
frank compass
I mean there is plenty of point
Better map pool, better ruleset, etc
Compared to casual
astral dagger
Since if you aren't winning every single game you are always losing, because you lose more elo than you gain, it isn't fun, there are shit uncompetitive maps and people try to sweat but have no idea how to play the game at even the highest elo
frank compass
I mean casual isnt fun
astral dagger
Eternal plat 3s are my favorite players
@frank compass ye only reason i played ranked seriously for atleast 1 season was to be atleast mid p2
astral dagger
ye
i mean why should i aim for anything higher
if shit isnt fun
aljo
especially since i only solo q
no chance that i try to do that to myself
I enjoy casual since I can do what I want and at least have a chill time. My experience in ranked is coaching "diamond" ranked people on how to drone and not
Die 20s into the round
nah what im gonna do on my smurfs now
is hard troll
ppls placements
with a mate
its the most fun
you can have in this game
ppl are fuming
astral dagger
I'll be honest the only few times I have fun in ranked is while smurfing since I can play without any care and still win
astral dagger
ahahaha ye we beat the turks and the germans
frank compass
Same mini
astral dagger
and if not we troll our team
frank compass
But id rather play ranked than casual
astral dagger
ye same mini
frank compass
Casual isnt fun
astral dagger
true
Actually when I play with pro players it's actually quite fun, since everyone is chill yet people actually know what they are doing
frank compass
Yea but ur oce mini
astral dagger
So you don't have to get mad at idiots who are supposed to be good not knowing what they are doing
frank compass
It’s an entirely diff experience
astral dagger
Which gives time for having fun
frank compass
Like ive met pros/other friends maybe a total of 5 times in casual
Over my 4ish years
Soon to be 4 years*
astral dagger
Oh I'm talking about ranked
frank compass
Ohoh
I mean yea playing with pros is
Peak ranked
I miss playing with Retro
:/
astral dagger
playing agains actually good ppl is fun ye
frank compass
Those were the good days
astral dagger
experienced that few times when you hit like p2 and all the pros havent gotten to dia yet / play with plats in their stacks
its fun
Certified carrier of fishoguy for at least 2 ranked games btw
frank compass
Lol
astral dagger
mini goat
I mean i only enjoy comp in this game at this point I cbf playing anything else
btw is there any way to get this bitch of my main menu screen ?
And comp is kinda shit rn
What makes me enjoy this game is teamwork not having to have conflict with people ingame for not knowing what game they are playing or feeling cheated through poor game design
frank compass
Comp meta is unhealthy
Final nail in the coffin for me
This is worse than chimera meta
astral dagger
I'm enjoying valorant for this reason since everyone is at the same skill level since its a new game
So it's enjoyable
Peak ranked
@frank compass that was always playing spoit and nova at 8am cuz his stack was like 1 out of total 10 active at that time back when he still rly grinded ranked
When I play with and/or against pros it's really depends on if it's shit map
If its a shit map it's 50/50 on who wins
If its a good map whoever runs defaults better wins
dude the only season i got matched with known players regularly was when fucking herford was in
and i swear
it was that shit map
every time
It's really saying something that I can 4-0 fnatic stack with my plat irls because we got defence on chalet
If it was a real map it would have been a loss every day of the week
Ranked is what it is though and probably won't change for the better
It's already been 5 years
true
Pain.
Ranked is what it is though and probably won't change for the better
@astral dagger dw its still in beta
timid mist
guys i have a question
would u guys say its worth it to train with a higher sens in kovaaks
frank compass
depends
mental snow
i understand toasts perspective - in ranked, especially around plat 3/2 people love flying out of windows with no care in the world - and its hard to punish them adequately or atleast trade them out without a 5 stack, even then in ranked thats sometimes too much to ask for
coarse valeBOT
GG @mental snow, you just advanced to level 13 !
mental snow
but in competitive play you know what runouts to watch for depending on what sort of execute/take youre working on
so a runout in competitive play is way riskier than ranked
and its almost always a 1 for 1 - which you almost never want in competitive play - but on maps like consulate that generally trend attacker sided, you need to runout to bring balance and try and pull a win out of your ass or deny crucial windows
frank compass
it's only ever rlly worth if you pick a good op and trade for no needed utility
mental snow
yep
frank compass
like a valk or jager trading a zofia/hb
or smokes
or something similar
maybe you get lucky and trade someone who still has a drone in their pocket and their other drone isnt well positioned
static sentinel
paid 20 bucks
frank compass
but that's something you dont actually know
that's just something that MIGHT happen
mental snow
even then, defensively on a site like CEO, id take just about any guaranteed 1 for 1 trade TBH with how strong each window is in correlation with another bc its a lot easier to win a 3v3 than a 5v5 on that site due to window positioning and people need to cover plant/actually plant
frank compass
mhmmmmm
mental snow
that site has like a 40% winrate at high competitive play - if not even lower - because you NEED to runout to get the picks needed and any good team is going to be prepared for the runouts you need to do
frank compass
Coastline you barely see runouts anymore since penthouse is an offsite
Club you only rarely see strip runout
Consul you see runouts kinda common
most maps dont facilitate runouts
mental snow
consulate and kafe are prolly the two most runout heavy maps
mental snow
not really
frank compass
not even that common anymore
mental snow
i disagree
kafe for sure has more runouts competitively on average than the other maps
frank compass
White stairs window/cocktail windows
White Door
jumping out train balc isnt that common anymore
mental snow
bar/cocktail for example window play is a huge factor so to counter that you run out bakery/small bake/ hit white door etc
nobody jumps out train balc
frank compass
idk why I blanked on bakery
yea
youre right vladr
I completely blanked on bakery door runout
mental snow
you either run out bakery, small bake window, hit white door, impact out garage, fly out dining windows, jump out white window and kill guys cocktail or side piano/white hall windows
or u run out 1f dining early round to kill them while theyre rapelling up
theres no cover for attackers on rappel, and it takes 30-40s to even get to the roof to set up your execute
hence it being runout heavy on the top floor site
otherwise its not really worth it
same concept as garage/ceo on consulate
you dont need the same window presence on attack on the lower level bombsites that you do on the upper ones, so you dont need to runout to deny those windows on defence
night radish
Vlad howd you get so gud
night radish
Love it
static sentinel
people good
mental snow
you learn more in 10 hours of scrims than 100 hours of ranked ¯_(ツ)_/¯
night radish
Im just bad probably
mental snow
if you play competitively you know what both sides need to do to win, so you learn stuff like that pretty quickly
night radish
I find i have a lot a lot a lottttt of work to do
I think my understanding of the game isnt as good as i think it is
mental snow
it doesn't matter your level of play, you can always improve/learn the game more
night radish
Couldnt agree more
mental snow
especially for a game with as much depth as siege
mental snow
t3, but my teammates were either on cl teams or on t3 teams that were objectively better than some pl teams in na, and we scrim mostly pl/cl teams
compared to eu na is super doo doo below the top5 PL teams
frank compass
yea you actually
improve so much
playing against good players
and so much by playing scrims
that is why
I have fallen off
hard
🙂
mental snow
its a lot easier to learn from your mistakes when you are actually being punished for them
frank compass
if you arent being punished for your mistakes
you become a worse player
same applies to a team
you legit get worse the more dumb shit you get away with
mental snow
yep bc it just creates bad habits, which is why most pros dont play ranked and when they do they treat it like competitive play and play super disciplined
it takes 10 minutes to break a habit that took an hour to build
frank compass
it takes 10 minutes to break a good habit that you spent months refining
it takes years to break a bad habit that you got after an hour
imo
slightly exaggerated
but the point remains
night radish
Im fucked
Lolol
Pretty sure all my habits are bad
I think the biggest learning curve for me is knowing when to be aggressive and when to be passive
When to take a gun fight and when to not
mental snow
yall siege ever want you to not play so bad it uninstalls itself
frank compass
yea
happened like a season or two ago
it's happened with a couple of my friends and some pros too iirc
astral dagger
any eu wanna get a stack got 3 rn
coarse valeBOT
GG @astral dagger, you just advanced to level 23 !
astral dagger
we need 1 more
frank compass
@raw fox i was wrong btw ig old house isnt playable at all
i couldve sworn they said it would be
timid mist
but the got rid of it
timid mist
for some reason
ashen bear
anyone know any good courses for r6?
frank compass
pins
ashen bear
what
frank compass
look at pins
ashen bear
oh right thx
vivid jolt
I've played 4x as much THunt as I have ranked the last couple months. Gotta break out the alt for a bit.
normal bloom
gotta get those thunt hours up on the alt too 
worn wagon
Actually had fun in placements lol
Ranked is fun for now
Though my stack just ditched me for their sleep. Weak.
vivid jolt
Fakes.
worn wagon
How frustrated r u with melusi btw?
And how many games have you played?
Cuz I am not too fine with her
static sentinel
Huh, weird
Im pretty sure that they were gonna allow us to play old House in custom and Thunt
snow marsh
looks like I’m grinding border thunt
vivid jolt
Unless I'm blind it's not an option.
There's only one House in the matchmaking options.
static sentinel
Sucks
static sentinel
frank compass
honestly
melusi isnt even that bad
because they super nerfed radius
shes still aids
but echo is worse rn because of indestructible drones
frank compass
astral dagger
how does one crosshair placement
Noticed that a majority of my gunfights are lost due to poor crosshair placement
Also should I use a lower sens for siege?
Currently running like 33 cm or something
lime wyvern
personal preference imo
lime wyvern
I was gonna say something but I didn't want to sound like a dick lol
@vivid jolt how do I submit benchmarks?
vivid jolt
s-upgrade
bronze spruceBOT
static sentinel
33 inches seems good enough
astral dagger
Meant cm 
But i see a majority of players playing tactical shooters using sensitivities like 40-60cm
I've been feeling 100% after quitting comp and siege
This game makes me a bitter person
just competitive games in general?
😞
Yeah
Yeah I played comp for 3 years I quit a month ago
I stopped playing OW because i would get crazy tilted whenever I played with friends
And have barely been playing any comp games
I don't know what to play without comp
I used to always be a casual 5 stack type of person
I've been playing Minecraft dungeons with my buddy
I feel like i just can't enjoy games unless if they are competitive now
I felt that way too
But I'm really excited for vampire the masquerade 2 and cyberpunk 2099
idk
I feel burned out
I don't have anything to play
but I play ranked in r6 because I want to get better
but I don't know if I really want to get better
I mean I've been there done that, I can't really get any better at this game so all there is for me is playing ranked aimlessly or trying to go pro
exactly
And I think neither of those things are worth while or good for my health
Yeah I've been wondering for the past 3 years if I really want to be a gamer
And if I should invest into other hobbies
Esports is definitely a legit career, but to play so much to be successful in Esports you have to sacrifice so much
Right
I have another strong passion and thats a passion for cars, but currently I don't have the tools to turn it into a tangible thing
For me it was my friends, my own free time, my education and my family relationships that had to go so I could be one of the best in my region and even then I didn't have what it took or I wasn't lucky enough to go into pro league
And I can't really enjoy this game as anything other than a competition sport
I have another passion, but I don't know if I should abandon gaming for it
A majority of my friends play games and I feel like if I didn't play as much then my relationship with them would waver
Cars don't take up nearly as much time and effort as gaming does ahaha
Cars do take up a lot of money
It's more of an accessory to life to express yourself
The biggest issue with cars is that I'm not even old enough to drive yet
Most i can do is look at them on youtube and play racing games
If I'm constantly getting burnt out on just playing games in general should I just quit?
I get burned out like every 3-4 months
granite ivy
@astral dagger been there, I’m studying mechanical engineering for this very reason. It might take a while, but it should help with being able to get into the car industry eventually.
But in any case, you can pull a Bosco and get an engineering degree while being a pro.
#BOSGOAT
astral dagger
Yo really?
granite ivy
Also, keep in mind esports ends up being a job. So there’s nothing stopping you from hating it at times
neon magnet
i always say if youre not going pro just play games to have fun and play whatever game you genuinely have fun playing
granite ivy
Yeah, I know how that feels. Sometimes you just don’t know what to prioritize, or even when you know you just want to do something else
Don’t beat yourself too much, and keep in mind there’s nothing wrong with making mistakes and taking a bit longer to figure out what you want in life
astral dagger
Bit offtopic...
@neon magnet im not so sure why I still play r6 ranked, i dont have fun playing it and just force myself for some reason.
neon magnet
play a new game
astral dagger
I just find it hard to enjoy games now unless if they arent competitive
neon magnet
i was the same with fortnite i was just forciung myself to grind in hopes i could win money in events
wasnt realistic lol now i just have fun improving my aim in kovaaks and playing whatever is fun
gonna try amazons new mmorpg when that comes out
astral dagger
I can just never invest in a game
Its always put in 200 hours quit or come back
Ill just try some new games
neon magnet
literally all you need to do is just try them lol
mental snow
you will not go pro if you dont know if you want to go pro when you are likely silver/gold
if you want to go pro you have to want it more than anything and put thousands of hours into it
astral dagger
Going pro is more about being friends with the right people and luck than it is skill
At least in my region
vivid jolt
You've uncovered the secret to success in life.
frank compass
going pro is a mixture of
wanting it more
and knowing the correct people
you have to be consistent, impress, and befriend people who can help you achieve your goals
and you have to personally be prepared for the mental toll it will take on you
both inside and outside the game
vivid jolt
If you have an alt-account I actually strongly recommend you try solo queueing anytime of the season. Obviously don't worry whatsoever about winning, because it's unlikely. But it forces you into situations where you have to rely on only yourself as an individual. Looking back through the years, it's CLEARLY apparent that the seasons I felt I was most mechanically consistent were the seasons that I solo queued the most- no question.
Of course, that's unfortunately not going to make you a better teammate.
inland lark
@astral dagger i still play house in thunt
I kinda enjoy soloqing while aiming for plat last season
But i dont feel like ive become a player better
:(
astral dagger
i only have 1 acc
astral dagger
but should i do it now?
astral dagger
some one claiming this is his main acc in my game lul
doesnt add up with his smurf 1.1 kd tho
vivid jolt
Look on the bright side. He could be BikiniBodhi.
astral dagger
fucking
he is ironic
retard
right?
no
hes a
degenerate
who does casual content
doesnt actually understand the game
and is deep in ubi's butt
vivid jolt
astral dagger
ik who he is
fucking love fabian
@vivid jolt
pengu retweet makes it even better
XD
Twitter
ahahahahahaha
cba
mortal notch
vivid jolt
You can't change datacenters / regions anymore?
astral dagger
When the boys ask me to play ranked
I don't have the heart to tell them I hate this game and don't want to play it anymore
vivid jolt
So don't.
You're not going to appreciate it by continuing playing and disliking it more.
astral dagger
I mean I would like to like it, but the devs are making quick work of any enjoyment I get out of it
Time to watch season 2 Pro league finals
Well, I don't hate this game
It's like how you hate exercise because it's painful
But deep down you love it
Because you know you will get results
Or you enjoy the process for what it is
vivid jolt
Ah, that. Relatably understandable.
astral dagger
idk with exercising i enjoy both the process and the results a lot
with siege the process makes want to kms and after you get the results you question if it was worth the time and you acknowledge that it will just get worse the higher you go
ye but deep down i like the core gameplay
If I want to improve siege mechanics should I do more thunt or kovaaks?
frank compass
with siege the process makes want to kms and after you get the results you question if it was worth the time and you acknowledge that it will just get worse the higher you go
@astral dagger
Also mini i was also bullied into playing half my placements last night
So I feel you
astral dagger
I just noticed haha
vivid jolt
@astral dagger Ranked/Comp will provide the most useful mechanics. Kovaak's is helpful but doesn't have the same aim specifics that Siege does. THunt is helpful but bots don't move like humans do.
Find a balance of all of them. Always play 2x as much as you train, minimum.
astral dagger
Ok
frank compass
Kvks is a good warmup for siege
Like 30 minutes
Anything more is kinda unnecessary
astral dagger
Something I need to do is when I'm playing T hunt or just siege in general I need to be mindful of improving
frank compass
Like 30 mins of kvks per hour of thunt
But spend thunts actively focusing on movement and angles
Or just movement if you dont play comp maps
astral dagger
movement and angles?
What is the definition of good movement
I have no idea what good movement is...
astral dagger
bruh momento
frank compass
Ill try to link you a message
astral dagger
I'll just google it
frank compass
When i get out of bed
astral dagger
Thanks
astral dagger
lol
Thanks again aljo
haerls
uranked?
nah im not
You win those
touching that game mode
I normally play unranked when I don't have the confidence for ranked
i have never played casual or unranked
if i wasnt forced to
You win those
@astral dagger my initial plan of trolling through my placements
literally didnt workout
cuz of enemies being bots
vivid jolt
What is that USERNAME Hurls
astral dagger
it triggers the shit out of ppl
like yesterday i didnt die once in back to back matches
ppl just call cheats
frank compass
Mhmmm
@vivid jolt to answer your question, the name is from randomly generating secure passwords
astral dagger
how haerls made his username:
@frank compass i was acutally thinking about using the name both as username and passpword
just to see if anyone tries lmao
astral dagger
btw
placement matchmaking is actually so dumb
i only play diamonds lmao
although my smurf was like gold
still 7 - 2 so far
haerls wanna play placements together
i played 1
doing my last rn
lets see if i get my free plat
tryhard dia 5 stack
cba trying against that in solo q 10th placement on my smurf with like 4 random golds
frank compass
Ngl copper charm looks so much better than all the other charms this season
astral dagger
The gold charm looks like a bronze charm
The charms this season are really bad except for plat and up
frank compass
Yea
astral dagger
true
i feel like
i either played shit gold or low plats
or 5 stacks with atleast a few diamonds in placements
Ubi should do something like OW where if your in a 5 stack youll get matched with another 5 stack or 6 stack. If you have a 2 stack they might match you up with a 3 stack or 2 stack.
A matchmaking system like that would do wonders
yes
its so obvious isnt it :D
They are reworking the sound in the game which is pretty nice
Also how is melusi played at high ranks?
She seems pretty powerful right now
it isnt played
its banned
Makes sense
:)
Is she really that strong?
disgusting operator
perfectly designed for the meta
with cancer guns
3 speed
Yeah
The fact that she has 3 of her gadgets and insane fragging capability is dumb
no
the idea
of the gadget
is dumb
:D
Pls have a mode with only base operators ubisoft 😞
Yeah it is
@astral dagger i watched old pro league stuff
it was
so nice
my team just left melusi open
when we are attack first villa
i guess im not playing this one
frank compass
Nah shes
Not that bad
When teams arent running a bunch of other utility alongside her
And they arent covering it w jager and wamai
astral dagger
10/10 on the disgusting shit scale
frank compass
Because you cant kill his drones
Melusi is just better barb
The issue will become
Once ppl start comboing her
W other ops
By herself tho, she isnt THAT bad
astral dagger
Pulse 👁️
I have no idea how to play echo
Goyo, melusi, maestro, mute and mozzie meta
@astral dagger it's very easy
Put the 2 cameras in the 2 sites
I just don't know when to get off my cams
It should be easy but my brain just doesn't seem to work
frank compass
Mini
astral dagger
Also I got the echo elite skin for free
frank compass
Mozzie/mute meta might die down a bit
astral dagger
and ends up on the streets
how does shit like this
make it into
the game
Ubisoft is trying to make their own meta like Blizzard in OW
I don't know why they would make this meta though
frank compass
Like they dont die
astral dagger
i didint read patch notes
frank compass
Like theyre bugged
astral dagger
lol
frank compass
I zofia impacted one
And it survived
I mag dumped one with g8
And it survived
Like
They dont die
Some friends were complaining abt them from scrims too
Shits just bad
night radish
His drones dont fucking die....
granite ivy
Maybe I’ve been lucky or something because all the Echo drones I shot yesterday got destroyed without issues. But wtf is this kind of bug lmao
astral dagger
dude the moment when you drop red hatch on kafe when they defend 3rd floor and wonder where you instantly die from
then realize some silver on the enemy team opened the top red wall
astral dagger
That was a thing I used to do
Good thing you taught me how stupid leaving top red unreinforced is though
i mean
most of the time it is
granite ivy
Ranking up my smurf has been an interesting experience to say the least. I’ve seen people do such weird shit, but the worst was top floor consulate.
2 rounds in a row defending it and my team literally only reinforced all the cubby walls. Literally the only walls I was telling them NOT to reinforce since I was going to play smoke in yellow. People are actually stupid
granite ivy
Just afk and do something else lol
No point in even trying since rollback will take your points away
astral dagger
At least ubisoft is addressing these issues and hears the community
vivid jolt
Noooo everyone petitioning for old House to come back to THunt.
LEAVE MY RECORD ALONE.
I must remain immortalized ᶦⁿ ᵗʰᵉ ᵈᵃʳᵏᵉˢᵗ ᶜᵒʳⁿᵉʳ ᵒᶠ ˢᶦᵉᵍᵉ ᵗʰᵃᵗ ⁿᵒᵇᵒᵈʸ ᶜᵃʳᵉˢ ᵃᵇᵒᵘᵗ
astral dagger
what fov and aspect ratio do u guys play
vivid jolt
3:2 90 recently.
astral dagger
also played 3:2
since its just like nicer 16:10 imo
i change between that and 4:3
night radish
Well now i wanna try 3:2
astral dagger
4:3 , 3:2, 16:10 are the only non native resolutions rly worth playing
astral dagger
and what fov for 3:2
btw do u guys play raw input off or on
i put it on bc spoit plays on
granite ivy
you should probably try to learn what raw input means first, it's not inherently better or worse to have it on
night radish
I play 80 fov too cuz blind
astral dagger
just found a way to counter clash and monty
I play 4:3 60 FOV
Oh yeah can'tyou jump through them
When you break the barricade
ye not really
or when you vault through
it's buggy
steel pumice
not anymore
astral dagger
but we found this to work 9/10
damn
just prone and knife clash?
ye or monty
is this Test or live?
live
pog
steel pumice
We were trying the jump through thing and it didnt work
steel pumice
Yea same
astral dagger
s-benchmarks
bronze spruceBOT
astral dagger
it only works if you barricade doors tho
steel pumice
velvet fern
You need to try in in Quick match. Might not work.
solid rampart
idk why but my mouse has felt super off the past few days
night radish
Wtf
Echo drones invincible and shields that dont shield through barricades
Just another new season of siege
Lets see how long it takes
astral dagger
erm ok?
frank compass
2 weeks maybe
astral dagger
astral dagger
doing my placements right now and I've bottom fragged on every match
Probably going to get carboard 5 this season
static sentinel
kekw
night radish
Bruh @astral dagger i mightve turned my game off after that
astral dagger
i did
hate this game
What did I just see
@astral dagger I probably would've uninstalled after seeing that
tepid cosmos
nutty bro 💯💯
frank compass
smg11 recoil this patch
made me sad
cause it starts horizontal earlier than it did last patch
granite ivy
I can't really feel the difference so I guess it's a rather small change
granite ivy
not me, got silver 1 on my smurf and it's fucking awful
astral dagger
Guess which dumbass went from 1.1 kd plat 3 to .6kd gold 1...
astral dagger
Well yeah still way better then .6
astral dagger
imagine alt tabbing back in and see this running at you
lime wyvern
pretty sure thats just a killcam glitch
astral dagger
idk
ye
Ubisoft is omega wack
I was doing my placements and got matched with Plats for some reason
Probably going to be ranked like silver 1 this season if I'm lucky
lime wyvern
I was doing my placements and got matched with Plats for some reason
generally if you're doing placements in the first 2 weeks its likely to match you against dia, champs, and content creators
lime wyvern
its ok