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vivid jolt
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Considered putting an Overlord OP in it.

astral dagger
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it only rly gets good with shippuden

frank compass
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And im not gonna watch the show

astral dagger
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but you have to watch

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the first part

frank compass
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Cause too long

vivid jolt
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Also Shroud isn't wrong. The optimal way to play CoD is to dropshot and body shot everyone you see.

astral dagger
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@vivid jolt ye 1st one is nuts

frank compass
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@vivid jolt do you have Re:Re: in the playlist?

fallow kindle
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I just got to episode 220

astral dagger
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are the full metal ones in ?

vivid jolt
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Though if you're playing it like I am then it's great in theory.

fallow kindle
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I really liked part one

astral dagger
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@frank compass never could watch re, as i said the emotional stuff just doesnt catch me

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so many ppl hyped it

frank compass
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Not rezero

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Re re is erased op

astral dagger
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ah

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ok

fallow kindle
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wait am I gonna get banned for talking about an anime in this channel

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hope now

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not

astral dagger
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no

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toast

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has cerified anime banger playlist

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its fine here

fallow kindle
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that is waht I like to hear

astral dagger
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and toast is only mod that ever touches siege

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this is good opening tho

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you prob havent heard it

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cuz it is filler op

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and you didnt watch naruto

frank compass
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No ive heard blue bird

astral dagger
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ah ok

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its like

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only good one

frank compass
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Its ok

astral dagger
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imo

fallow kindle
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no yeah this is my favorite intro

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of the entire series

astral dagger
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ye

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its only rly good one

frank compass
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Domestic gf op

fallow kindle
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I think I am actually watching the episodes with this intro right now

frank compass
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🔥

astral dagger
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idk i skipped most fillers

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cuz shits boring

fallow kindle
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its not filer

astral dagger
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and show is alrfy

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like

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800 episodes

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lmao

fallow kindle
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this is in the main episodes too

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otherwise I wouldnt know it

astral dagger
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first code geass op is good to aljo

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but i prob only like it cuz i watched the show like 3 times

vivid jolt
astral dagger
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:(

frank compass
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Colors is good

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Yes

astral dagger
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@vivid jolt but have you seen the wierd shit in that channel ?!

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dont force us to go in there

vivid jolt
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So go make it unweird.

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Siege talk only here.

frank compass
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LOL

astral dagger
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lmao

frank compass
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Think about how good sieg would be if everyone was 2/2

astral dagger
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truuuueeee

fallow kindle
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yo is the csgo channel dead? I asked a question and no one has even told me to fuck off yet

frank compass
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Yes

fallow kindle
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not nearly as active as this one

frank compass
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It is

astral dagger
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it is

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siege is only

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active

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game channel

frank compass
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Valorant too

astral dagger
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cuz its new

frank compass
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Yes

fallow kindle
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unfortunate

astral dagger
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i mean

raw fox
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package got delayed till tuesday fuck looters

astral dagger
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this channel also isnt only siege

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it has some offtopic stuff, hour long discussions

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and fl talk

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although toast only wants the last 2 points in here

raw fox
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primarily the correlation that fls increase aiming ability

astral dagger
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truuuueeeee

raw fox
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considering that im the only one who is both gm and owns fls, i'd say it works

astral dagger
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buck must know

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he did the studies

frank compass
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ok but buck

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did you do a control?

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have you done some post gm testing?

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did you do adequate pre gm testing?

raw fox
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yep

astral dagger
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i think regularly

tepid cosmos
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this channel is like a sub community seems like

raw fox
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+400 score delta on pattarget before and after fls

astral dagger
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ye

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its good sub community

raw fox
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7400-7800

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avgs

astral dagger
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cuz not a lot of dumb questions

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for the most part

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and we are allowed to discuss stuff

raw fox
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except about fls

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thats dumb shit

astral dagger
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xd

frank compass
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@tepid cosmos indeed

astral dagger
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and we are allowed to discuss stuff
@astral dagger without the channel being put on slowmode

frank compass
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when people do have questions they are typically answered quickly

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then we resume discussions

astral dagger
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ye

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and we all are also better at balancing

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then the devs

frank compass
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well

astral dagger
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that is a fact

frank compass
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not cyn

astral dagger
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wamai

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is bad

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XD

frank compass
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cyn thinks wamai is bad

astral dagger
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AHAHAHA

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love it

static sentinel
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<3

astral dagger
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What are zebra ???

frank compass
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???

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zebra are what ??

astral dagger
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XD

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he also is t200 te

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Omfg naruto

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while losing every 1v1 in siege

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I have seen every ep

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xd

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And yes blue bird is amazing opening

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Sasuke

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Masses

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Madara*

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My 2 fav

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Sasuke as an adult is op af

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contuur we arent supposed to talk about that stuff in here :(

frank compass
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Toast is about to do a sini style ( ccp censorship ) crackdown of #siege ( the best channel )

astral dagger
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Mangekyou sharingan rinnegan with tomo the mans op af he can teleport use Amaterasu and inferno style full susanno

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connor

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you a bit

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of

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a nerd

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?

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Nah just love naruto

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Only anime’s I have seen is sword art online naruto and bleach

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Naruto was the best show ever man

frank compass
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ew

astral dagger
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I haven’t been watching boruto lately but might catch up on it

frank compass
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Naruto, SAO, and Bleach

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ew

astral dagger
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I liked them

static sentinel
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@astral dagger ppW

astral dagger
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I didn’t really like Tokyo goul or attack on Titan

static sentinel
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Still top 200 tho

astral dagger
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after watching sao i just want to rewatch naruto and bleach my eyes

raw fox
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hentai > anime

astral dagger
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

raw fox
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no more getting cucked

static sentinel
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When you have 195

frank compass
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Buck

static sentinel
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What a loser

astral dagger
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Oh I watched Dororo as well that is good

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Oh I watched Dororo as well that is good

frank compass
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what are some good hentai recommendations??

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Im sure you have many

astral dagger
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0_0

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Ok I’m out

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kanjo x kanjo

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is p good

raw fox
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vanilla shit with plot is king

frank compass
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Dororo ED 2 IS SO GOOD

astral dagger
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over flow

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also

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good

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thats like 2 good recommendations

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for entry lvl

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hentai

raw fox
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ugly bastard is nope

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even tho im one

astral dagger
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XD

static sentinel
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I watch loli

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Hentai

frank compass
static sentinel
raw fox
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sir this is a wendys

astral dagger
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LMAO

static sentinel
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Oh yea, a number 9 please.

raw fox
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medium or large

astral dagger
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large and throbbing pls

static sentinel
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Large, but make sure that the fries are extra or I will call the manager

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For the loli hentai, the younger the better

astral dagger
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ok cyn

raw fox
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oh shit they're throwing brricks at the windows

astral dagger
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stop it

static sentinel
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._.

raw fox
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SIR THIS A WENDYS

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hes got a molly

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fuck]

astral dagger
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man i hate

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quarantine

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i miss

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drugs

raw fox
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social distancing but everyday

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voluntarily

static sentinel
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Just get an ADHD diagnosis and get stimulants

frank compass
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well we learned the secret to cyn's TE scores

astral dagger
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amphe abusers

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not the first one

static sentinel
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

frank compass
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@shroud

astral dagger
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tony

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ofc

static sentinel
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Its not even funny

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I cant play without medication anymore

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I lose concentration constantly

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I have an actual problem tho

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My mind drifts off in a 1v1

raw fox
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it is what it is

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album by thundercat

static sentinel
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I hereby crown myself the #1 1wall6targets TE aimer in #siege

astral dagger
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cyn prob is also the gold player with the highest te score zPepega

static sentinel
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Cant even see you on here

normal bloom
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doesnt waste his time playing a bad scen

static sentinel
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ITS A GOOD SCEN OK?!

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MOM SAID IT WAS

fallow kindle
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why is it bad

astral dagger
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doesnt waste his time playing a bad scen
@normal bloom exactly

vivid jolt
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Inferior compared to Wide Wall which does its strengths better than it (large angle click timing).

static sentinel
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^^

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I agree with Toast

normal bloom
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also targets unpractically big

static sentinel
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While TE is more flashy

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Wide Wall is more benefical

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And Toast still holds the lead over the Siege players on Wide

normal bloom
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still useful bug not efficient

static sentinel
raw fox
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still better at track

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and ts

static sentinel
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I suck at tracking

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Even hurls- well ok, Im not that bad, but most players are better than me at tracking

astral dagger
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I keep watching old siege vids and it’s making me depressed

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Why can’t they just make the game good again

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Stop with these bullshit ops

normal bloom
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were the old cs games better than go?

raw fox
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power creep

astral dagger
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I literally played tts and I can’t fuxking move

raw fox
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and lack of vision

astral dagger
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I just wanna be able to shoot people but I can’t

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Cos I can’t even move now

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and lack of vision
@raw fox ye i dont even think they have one

vivid jolt
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8 bans total. Don't care.
Needs to happen.

astral dagger
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besides making money they dont seem to have any vision for the game

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or atleast no one can make sense of this mess

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8 bans total. Don't care.
Needs to happen.
@vivid jolt je just kill comp

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with 4 attack bans

vivid jolt
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Good.

astral dagger
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I really feel like downloading the old siege patch and just playing that

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Chimera or whatever it is

vivid jolt
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Nobody needs 4 hard breachers on the table.

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Comp will be fine.

astral dagger
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Like you can Download old patch of siege and play online

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idk even 6 would be

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eh

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maybe 6 would be possible at some point

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in the far future

vivid jolt
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Comp was perfectly fine with one hardbreacher and people in the chat are currently simping about how good it was right above me.

astral dagger
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ye

vivid jolt
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We can have 4 bans and get rid of 3 of them and be just fine.

astral dagger
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just

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thermite

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it was

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so nice

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hibana still was decent addition

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Next season I will ban that new bitch op on def everytime

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but idk

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at this point

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I don’t wanna fucking play with her

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She is annoying

frank compass
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i think an interesting thing to try

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is you unban like 8 ops

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per team

astral dagger
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Shit and boring af

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hmmmmm

frank compass
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instead of banning

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itd be kinda interesting

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at least to see tested

astral dagger
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Ye

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I agree

frank compass
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like 8 atk and 8 defenders per team

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to unban

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so youd have 16 per side available

astral dagger
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well but one mistake in the draft would way insanely heavy over the course of a match

vivid jolt
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Hell nah. Imagine having Melusi, or a future Lion on the table and your strat is to ban the cancer BS op, and your enemy team is so trashy that they protect it.

astral dagger
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could make the game even less of an shooter

frank compass
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maybe

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I see many flaws with unban

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rather than ban

astral dagger
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could litetally become unplayable if you fuck up a draft

frank compass
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but Its still something to see tried

astral dagger
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or enrmy has strats you dont know

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But that’s the point of a tts

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They should try these things

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cuz you cant get a counter

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to a strat you dont know

frank compass
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i think going up to 2 bans/team rather than 1 would be better

astral dagger
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Imagine they do a playlist for vanilla siege

frank compass
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at the very least

astral dagger
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with limited picks

frank compass
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since we now have a 4th hb

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2 bans per side

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is what i meant

astral dagger
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Just vanilla ops with ash jäger bandit acog that would be a fun playlist

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make it 6 bans

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like 3 per team

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I would play that over any other game mode

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bandit acog

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fun playlist

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mhm

frank compass
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no it is to a point where 8 bans total

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would be fine

vivid jolt
astral dagger
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idk bans are rly rly heavy

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ofc theres cancer ops

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Only problem is the down time

frank compass
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im speaking more so to comp

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than ranked

astral dagger
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but 8 bans with how many ops?

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especially in comp

frank compass
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so 4 atk, 4 def

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instead of 2/2

normal bloom
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all i want rn is dm

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game is a lost cause

astral dagger
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i mean look at league, game has 140 characters and 10 bans

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works just fine

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That’s a completely different game tho

vivid jolt
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8 bans is 14% of the whole character list.

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14%.
That's nothing. If you can't make a strat with 86% of the characters in this game, you're a shit player.

astral dagger
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ye

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still

frank compass
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I mean

astral dagger
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maybe

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but it be a huge

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game

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changer

frank compass
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consider the ops that are actually good

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and played

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then consider the bans

astral dagger
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ye

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its like

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20%

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atleast

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and that

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is a fucking

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lot

frank compass
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closer to 20% - 25% yea

vivid jolt
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56 ops.

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8 bans.

frank compass
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Hey toast

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you dont read

astral dagger
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I’m just worried if they plan to bring out 100ops and we got cancer ops like Melusi already then I’m shitting the future

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half of the ops especially on attack aren't even played

frank compass
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Tachanka, Kapkan, Frost, Cav, Warden are 5 def
Glaz, Fuze, Blitz, BB, Finka, Nokk are 6 atk

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off the top of my head

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that arent often or ever played

astral dagger
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idk 8 bans is to much

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imo

eager arrow
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warden and glaz are some of the best ops better so sum repec

frank compass
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no it

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it's a good amount

astral dagger
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I agree

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The 20second meta will actually start to fade with more bans

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ofc

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if you can just disable everything

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Less utility to destroy and shit

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question is

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if it is

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a good change

frank compass
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bans were a good change at the beginning so yes

astral dagger
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if the cancer is there and you just make it unaccessible

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Well tts should be used but they are dumb

frank compass
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I think itd be a good change

eager arrow
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idk if u shoot them in the head every op is fair 🙂

astral dagger
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not bb

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:)

frank compass
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no one plays bb

astral dagger
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still

frank compass
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in comp

eager arrow
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cause he fucking suck s

astral dagger
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consulate

vivid jolt
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I don't get how so many people will complain everyday about how "the game was better year 1 / 2 when there was less BS" but then be so against the idea of doubling the bans to make it so there is less.

frank compass
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yes nip

astral dagger
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2 years

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ago

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xd

eager arrow
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and u can still shoot him in head

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2 years

astral dagger
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ofc he sucks

eager arrow
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LOL

astral dagger
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Xd

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I would love to ban more people

frank compass
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@vivid jolt so we're agreeing that 8 bans is the next step forward for comp?

astral dagger
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@vivid jolt i never say the game was better 2 years ago

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Get rid of way more utility

vivid jolt
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In general, Hurls. Not you.

frank compass
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Ive been saying up it to 3/3 for the past year in which atks ban an extra def, and def bans an extra atk for comp

astral dagger
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luckily i havent played this shit for so long

vivid jolt
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@frank compass There are a myriad of steps that could be taken first.

frank compass
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i think with a 4th hb it's time for 4/4

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such as?

astral dagger
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I want old ads times back

eager arrow
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

astral dagger
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That was a stupid change

eager arrow
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this guy is on to somthing

frank compass
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such an inconsequential change

astral dagger
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But it’s dumb to have such low ads times

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such a useless change and showed how out of touch they are

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Nothing was wrong with old ads time

eager arrow
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and they just lied about the change

astral dagger
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New ads makes me wanna play 1 cm 1 to1 acog so I can stay scoped in 24/7 Cos the moment I unscope it takes 32weeks to ads again

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so

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useless

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just love playing attack

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clear utility till 20 seconds

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then you arent allowed to walk

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What was wrong with old ads

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and you cant even scope in

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👍

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Why they have to change

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I think the new meta is to prone across the map with laser and just hip fire

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Cos we can’t move anymore anyway

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We can’t ads

eager arrow
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yall know when diablo 4 comes outs ?

astral dagger
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idk

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just play poe

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Cooking simulator 2020 is more competitive then siege

eager arrow
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poe more liek dog shit

astral dagger
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lol

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wdym

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Like I can cook a burger and not get bullshitted

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poe is bad

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???

eager arrow
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imo

astral dagger
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And I don’t have to clear utility before I can put the burger in the pan to cook it

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atleast it isnt run by an out of touch garbage company like Activision Blizzard

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but decent devs that respect their community

eager arrow
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i meam blizzard is more in touch with there games than steam and ulay

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🙂

astral dagger
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still

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not

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good

eager arrow
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better

astral dagger
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just cuz some companies manage to be even more retarded it doesnt make blizzard less shit

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i never understood the logic behind saying that smth is even more shit, like ok but does that make it any good lmao

eager arrow
astral dagger
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I just run angled on everything I can

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Since there is no recoil in this game

static sentinel
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What's up Siegers, best way to improve other than play a fuckton? Should I learn the ins and outs of strats through YT videos?

astral dagger
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gonna finally buy kovaaks

vivid jolt
astral dagger
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been using a free version for ages

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and i never really played it much but since siege is gay and i still wanna get good aim

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i thought fuck it

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how did you get the holo for koovaks

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i used your pinned imagine but the other day i saw you play with the holo housing as well

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@vivid jolt

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s-benchmarks

bronze spruceBOT
vivid jolt
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You don't want the Holo housing reticle.

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Just use the reticle.

astral dagger
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I suggest watching toast of wars thunt world record video if you really want to improve @static sentinel

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I was copper 4 and when I watched it I was instantly pro league

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Other than that meaty marley videos are really good for learning strategies and positioning

static sentinel
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LES GOO-

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This video always gets me

astral dagger
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teehee

vivid jolt
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It's becoming spam now.

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Chill with it.

astral dagger
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@vivid jolt i play 4:3 80fov on siege what should i use for koovaks? vertical 1:1 with 80 fov and what res 1280x960? but i want more quality so is it 1440x1080

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is that right or?

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I feel like it doesn't really matter since you arent trying to emulate siege you are just trying to improve your baseline mouse control

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i guess but i want it to transition to siege

vivid jolt
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True, but if you do want to match it, then check the pins.

astral dagger
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ok

vivid jolt
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Resolutions should be kept native.

astral dagger
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so 4:3 80 fov would be 96hfov?

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also what do you mean

vivid jolt
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Default.

astral dagger
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ye but i play 4:3 on siege

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and wanna play 4:3 koovaks how come native?

vivid jolt
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Because resolution does not affect your FOV.

astral dagger
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so just use 16:9 and change fov to match my siege fov with 4:3?

static sentinel
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I keep playing Ascended Tracking v3 and Jumbo Tile Frenzy yet my aim doesn't get better

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How can I improve?

vivid jolt
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4:3 @80 FOV = 64 vFOV on 16:9 in Kovaak's.

normal bloom
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4:3 and 16:9 vfov is the same

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effects hfov

astral dagger
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ah ty sir

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well sirs

normal bloom
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also you should use 72 1:1 fov

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its holo fov

astral dagger
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am so confused hahaha

normal bloom
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1:1 option in vaaks

astral dagger
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ye i know that but what fov should i use

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if im training holo

normal bloom
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80 fov is your hip 72 is 1x ads

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72

astral dagger
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ah ok ty

normal bloom
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in vaaks

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also may aswell play stretched

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1440x1080 is 4:3

astral dagger
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toast told me not to

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this is why i'm confused af

normal bloom
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i mean

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whats the point of playing siege settings but not playing the same res

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you either try emulate siege or you dont

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doesnt make sense to go half way

astral dagger
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ye that's what i wanted to do

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so i should play 1440x1080 for 4:3 and 72 fov?

normal bloom
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ye

astral dagger
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that's what i use to play a while ago

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on free kovaaks

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ok ty

normal bloom
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np

astral dagger
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and only train holo i guess as @frank compass said about focal scaling

normal bloom
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idk i dont play acog

astral dagger
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1440x1080 messes up my kovaak

normal bloom
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ah rip

astral dagger
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like if i put my mouse on something it clicks next to it

normal bloom
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yeah happened to me on 5:4

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does it work in borderless?

astral dagger
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1280x960 it is then

normal bloom
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does 1400x1050 or 1360x1020 work if you type them in custom? @astral dagger

astral dagger
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nope

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@normal bloom

normal bloom
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frick

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you kovaak

bronze spruceBOT
astral dagger
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s-benchmarks

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bro how tf do i search for a scenario?

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@vivid jolt ?

normal bloom
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idk if you can if youre playing stretched

astral dagger
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gonna go for plat in benchmarks

vivid jolt
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No, read the pins again.

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Don't use your normal FOV in Kovaak's.

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4:3 @80 vFOV in Siege [96 hFOV] = 64 vFOV on 16:9 [96 hFOV] in Kovaak's, because changing your FOV is the only way to replicate an aspect ratio in Kovaak's. THEN you subtract your in game FOV on top of that to get the value you use for Kovaak's in order to replicate your horizontal field of view from Siege.

astral dagger
vivid jolt
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Hoof, that 16:9.

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Lookin freaky.

astral dagger
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yeah i only play native

vivid jolt
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Never fullscreened your clips before. Never noticed.

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Anything above 16:10 hurts to look at now. weird

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...Actually anything below 3:2 hurts to look at too.

astral dagger
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after playing kovaaks on 50cm i can now say it is not good for kovaaks haha

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kinda made me wanna go back to 40cm

vivid jolt
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I play on 47cm in Kovaak's alright.

astral dagger
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toast check dm sir

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!mousepad

coarse valeBOT
lime wyvern
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yeah 55cm isn't good for kovaaks but I think the fov is a bigger setback

astral dagger
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What do I put for mouse sensitivity horizontal and vertical?

frank compass
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uh

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for kovaaks?

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what exactly are u asking

astral dagger
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just use hip, and lock horizontal and vertical

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might try 42cm for a bit

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6-6-66-800dpi

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60-60-66-800dpi with the 0.002multiplier looks cool so may 6's

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i play 6 6 60 rn

eager arrow
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just shoot head 🙂

coarse valeBOT
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GG @eager arrow, you just advanced to level 7 !

eager arrow
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POGGERS

astral dagger
vivid jolt
normal bloom
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how would i ‘just shoot head’?

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too advanced of a concept

astral dagger
inland lark
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Yes lets go 6666 gang

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Play ela scorpion with suppressor

astral dagger
inland lark
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oh damn

astral dagger
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clash glitch back

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this game

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is just

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no fucking words

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fun game

inland lark
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is the 6666 sens working out?

astral dagger
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42cm ganng

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the devils work

static sentinel
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@astral dagger Make a best Cyn quotes compilation

astral dagger
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@static sentinel join voice so we can get some more

static sentinel
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im playing

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xd

astral dagger
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ye

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me too

static sentinel
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What was zebra

astral dagger
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i heard today some dumb fcks calling the side of white van zebra

coarse valeBOT
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GG @astral dagger, you just advanced to level 9 !

astral dagger
astral dagger
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time to try moffit grip on siege

noble belfry
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You might want to try it with toggle ads

astral dagger
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all the pistol shots were so close too @astral dagger

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hm that doesnt sound bad fuhsz

noble belfry
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Pretty sure thats what he used in OW when he used that grip

astral dagger
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@astral dagger ikr i said that

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@noble belfry sens is difficult tho

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@astral dagger the one jiggle in split i swear his head was right in the center

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You might want to try it with toggle ads
@noble belfry ye hold is quite shit

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ikr haha

noble belfry
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I thought it would be I imagine its hard to hold and keep the stability of the two fingers on LMB

astral dagger
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42cm pog

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recoil control

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is also

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meh

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@noble belfry come 🖖 with me

noble belfry
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I used to use it actually

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when I first started fps I saw moffitt and thought it was unironically the way

astral dagger
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hm

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maybe it is

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my middle finger falls off all the time tho

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tf is moffit

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a legend

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among men

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@noble belfry the thing is, even if it helps with reactivity its still better to play siege on low sens

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i feel like the grip harmonises more with high sens

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what do u guys play when u get tired of this shit

formal stag
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ow cs val fn

noble belfry
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Yeah it does

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Like dude was using sub 20cm with that sens though saying that

astral dagger
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ye

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im currently only whiffing cuz of toggle ads tho

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thats only issue

noble belfry
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Boo I guess that will take the most to get used to really

astral dagger
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fcking fortnite 😞

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shit like that just happens constantly

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lol

noble belfry
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Yeah I imagine if I tried I'd be constantly jumping in an out

astral dagger
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but

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somehow

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i kinda

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like it

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?

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is siege on ts better than normal rn

noble belfry
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I mean I don't think its bad

astral dagger
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@noble belfry nice thing about toggle is stuff like 0 delay back into ads after punching barb

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and it feels nicer

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when swinging

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in ads

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for me it is

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answer my question

noble belfry
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True

astral dagger
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this season has been horrible

noble belfry
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Plus in theory you should be able to aim better as there is less tension in your hand holding the RMB

astral dagger
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ye

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i went to

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33cm ads

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rn

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i can wrist only that

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few runs in

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im starting to believe

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that this is nice

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1.6kd

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fuck ye

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Like dude was using sub 20cm with that sens though saying that
@noble belfry he was on gsr tho

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untill the next day when you wiff hard

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40-50cm ads is pog

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btw i think it has to be palm fuhsz, since his ring finger is literally at the very left of and fully stretched

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like palm has to touch cuz otherwise you wont reach that far

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@noble belfry i think me being left handed doesnt make it look better ?

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lmao

astral dagger
noble belfry
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It makes it look even more weird to be honest

astral dagger
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yes

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btw just to make sure i do it right, moffit has 2 fingers on his left click ?

noble belfry
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Yeah

astral dagger
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/ on his m1 keybind

noble belfry
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Yeah

astral dagger
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ye i have keys reversed so 2 fingers on the right button when im left handed

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should be right

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?

noble belfry
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Yeah that should be perfectly right

astral dagger
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@astral dagger are u playing siege now

mortal notch
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why yall *raising senses now

astral dagger
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bc low sense is big dick

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true

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u say that haerls but u cant answer ...

frank compass
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@mortal notch wdym?

astral dagger
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the frame he ded

mortal notch
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33 and 42 cm

astral dagger
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@vivid jolt angerykirby

vivid jolt
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I'd be heat.

astral dagger
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@mortal notch i see we both feelin it

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these ppl wonder why they are gold

finite breach
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Yo

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Quick question

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I have everything in fine order under Kovaaks, but to go through my routine, should I be tracking my scores if I train under two different FOV/Sens settings?

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I have one for all 1x sights
and one for ACOG

astral dagger
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I don't suggest tracking scores

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You are here for improvement, you will see improvement in game results not aim trainer scores

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And I also suggest only training hip fire sens, one thing that helped for me is doing thunt with all different ads for 2 hours a day

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For example my hipfire is 33cm so I change 35 ads, 60ads and 83 ads all in a week and practice thunt with all

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And I only practice my hipfire in kovaaks

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I'm not a very good "baseline" (aim trainer) aimer but doing this got me to where I can compete with pro players in a fragging role and be consistent with aim by in my mind practicing with wrist and arm by changing ads

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I also don't suggest changing kovaaks sens off of hipfire, other people say differently but I feel as if aim trainers are only there for mouse control not in game emulation

frank compass
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hipfire for tracking scens, 1x for clicking, mean for targetswitching

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imo

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but it kinda depends on your style of aim in siege

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like I only ever train what would be my hipfire sens

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because I constantly change my ADS/use focal length scaling for ADS

vivid jolt
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Just- nah I fully do not understand why you would ever practice your hipfire sensitivity for aiming. Hipfire sensitivity is strictly for moving around the map, not hitting shots. You don't track your enemy while hipfiring and shooting at him. That's just worthless in practical terms.

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And before you say that Shaiiko lines up his shots in hip before ADSing and adjusting, No. Even then. You shouldn't replicate the insanely difficult strategies of Shaiiko nor is it efficient to try to aim at the head without ADSing. If that were the case, why even have a different ADS sens?

frank compass
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yes u need to train the same sensitivity you play in order for it to be efficient practice

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youre absolutely right toast!

astral dagger
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I don't agree, i switch sens every other day but I always aim better after practice in kovaaks even if its practice with a completely different sens

vivid jolt
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Training with a different faster sensitivity is a known practice method. Practicing always with your hip and not a random fast sens is not a known practice method.

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If you want variable sensitivity training, make the sens variable. Randomize it. Don't just make it whatever your hip is.

frank compass
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Toast dont YOU practice with your hip sens 🤔

astral dagger
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Why not?

vivid jolt
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For the reasons stated above, it's not useful for translating practical aim.
And it's not useful for variable sens training because it's not near as effective as using a much faster, randomized sensitivity compared to just using your same hip sens constantly.

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It's the worst of both worlds.

frank compass
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prove it?

vivid jolt
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?

frank compass
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in what way is it the worst of both worlds

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?

astral dagger
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Imo 70% of aim training "skills" have no translation to practical aim but rather make you more consistent in your execution of practical aim, aim trainers are only there for mouse control especially for siege

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So as long as your sens is relatively close in aim trainers as it is in game you will see positive results

vivid jolt
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Sure.

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But is that the most effective way to train?

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For the reasons stated above, it's not useful optimal for translating practical aim.
And it's not useful for variable sens training because it's not near as effective as using a much faster, randomized sensitivity compared to just using your same hip sens constantly.

astral dagger
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idk i agree with mini and aljo here

vivid jolt
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How.

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What.

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Even.

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Read.

frank compass
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Discussing efficiency (on
this specifically) when it is a new area and you have no legitimate research to back up either approach isn't fair.

vivid jolt
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If you want to practice practical translatable aim: Use your ADS sens (duh).
If you just want to practice muscle groups (mouse control) then use variable sensitivities, not just the same hip sens.

frank compass
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Toast what do you have to actually prove this is a more efficient method than training (for example) what my recommendation is?

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Like Im not saying mine is the most efficient because I cant prove it

vivid jolt
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Switching from 5cm to 25cm to 45cm to 13cm activates and focuses far more muscle groups than just switching between 40cm ADS and 33cm hipfire.

astral dagger
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🧐

vivid jolt
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I don't have to prove basic anatomy.

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Different muscle groups will be utilized for different length of motion (lower/higher sensitivity)

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If you only use your same hip sens, only that same muscle group will be used over and over.

frank compass
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and Id agree that is the best way to train. But if you're training for game specific

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then using your sensitivities from the game wouldnt be a waste of your time

astral dagger
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ye

vivid jolt
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......You don't play aim trainers for game specific aim.

astral dagger
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I practice only my hipfire in kovaaks because that's what stays consistent about my settings, I don't chance off 33cm hip but I always change ads

frank compass
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if you only play one game then yes you do.........

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????????????

vivid jolt
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Dude.

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Hell nah.

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There's no way you're in this server and haven't gotten that.

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You cannot just only play aim trainers and go into a game and have good aim.

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That ain't how that works.

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Straight up.

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No.

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s-mousecontrol

bronze spruceBOT
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People don't play Aim Trainers for literal aim. They play it for mouse control. Mouse control is what you are able to develop your specific aim on (based on what game you play).

It's like weight training for martial arts. Being super strong doesn't mean you're going to win in a fight. But training weights and becoming strong allows you to train more powerful techniques, agility, etc. and will make your kicks/punches more focused and quicker. This allows you to be a better fighter overall. A stronger arm doesn't mean a better punch, but raises the ceiling for how efficient the punch can be. This is the same for mouse control and aim.

Mouse control is the base foundation for all your aim. Practical aim comes almost entirely from the game that you're proficient at for a multitude of reasons.

frank compass
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wow it's almost like im speaking from the perspective of the new people in the server who planned to only improve their aim in one game rather than just improve their mouse control.

astral dagger
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f you want to practice practical translatable aim: Use your ADS sens (duh).
If you just want to practice muscle groups (mouse control) then use variable sensitivities, not just the same hip sens.
Different muscle groups will be utilized for different length of motion (lower/higher sensitivity)(edited)
If you only use your same hip sens, only that same muscle group will be used over and over.
like i agree with all of this, but i barely aim with my low ads sens , and im definitely not gonna do all my aim prac on a sens i ever only use for micro corrections

frank compass
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???????????

astral dagger
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its jus

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wasted

frank compass
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I literally PREACH CONSTANTLY about how in game aim isnt the same as kovaaks aim

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every day

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about how there are significantly more variables that are typically more important than just raw mouse control

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but please go off

astral dagger
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Depends on what game

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If you are great at kovaaks I'm sure you would be great at overwatch

frank compass
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well mini in general different games require varying levels of mouse control to be good at.

astral dagger
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Or even quake if you get past the simple bhop and weapon switching

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but ye kovaaks isnt for game specific aim it isnt the same

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but its still not worth for me to use my scuffed 70cm+ ads for all my scens

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by that logic i could only prac micro corrections lmao

vivid jolt
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I don't have to argue this. This is basic logic.

If you want translatable practical control, then practice your ADS sens.
If you just want general mouse control from faster sensitivities, then do not only train the exact same high sens. Train dozens of different ones.
These are the only most optimal methods.

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I'm done here.

frank compass
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well youre wrong

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🙂

vivid jolt
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I'm not.

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:)

frank compass
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you absolutely are.

astral dagger
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How do you actually call smth most efficient

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with only a theory

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and no practical study

frank compass
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and it is entirely dependent to scenario.

astral dagger
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to proof it

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the idea is so vague

frank compass
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In game you only move 45-90 degrees with your ads EVER

astral dagger
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it even ignores dif scens etc

frank compass
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unless you are a player who stays ADS'd 90% of a round

astral dagger
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I can only ever suggest thunt as a surefire way to consistency

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And kovaaks as a light accessory

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And if you are playing kovaaks as an accessory to practical aim I would stick to hipfire for continuity

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Just my opinion though

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And also about "shaiiko centres targets", I think that being able to centre targets on hipfire is a good skill to develop, being out of ads most of the time is a legit tactic since you can gather more information

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So idk why you wouldn't want to try an replicate such a skill

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He is still human like everyone else and this is a skill given though practice not gods gift

frank compass
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i also only practice hipfire

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because like mini

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I change my ads alot

night radish
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Just match your 1x with hip and you train both at the same time....

frank compass
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yea

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so pull a toast

finite breach
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How do I match my hip to my 1x in kovaaks?

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Or is this a dumb question

frank compass
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he meant in game

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like you play 83/4 ads in game

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to get 1:1

finite breach
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83/4?

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Sorry about the q's btw

frank compass
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83.33 ads in siege is 1:1 for 1x sights

noble belfry
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@astral dagger Late to the party but that was a real nice shot

astral dagger
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LMAO

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it was

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real nice

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rng

noble belfry
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Like you just shit on him

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Who needs to stay ads

astral dagger
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truuueeeee

astral dagger
#

I'm looking at the pinned messages for FoV with different aspect ratios. I'm confused. Which FOV measurement do I use in KovaaK's?

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Trying to convert 84 FOV at 16:10 to KovaaK's.

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at 1920x1080

frank compass
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go to the calculator linked

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choose 16:10 for aspect ratio

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and set vertical fov to 84

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then use the horizontal fov it outputs

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if you want to use hipfire fov

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multiply it by 0.9 if you want to use holo fov

astral dagger
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I've done the calculation, but what FoV measurement?

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Without changing the resolution.

frank compass
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wdym?

astral dagger
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This

frank compass
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16:9 horizontal

astral dagger
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thanks.

astral dagger
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actually, would I have to change my KovaaK's resolution to 1680x1050?

mortal notch
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i mean

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i didnt realise that was called "shaiiko aiming"

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but i preaim hipfire

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and then ads onto people

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which is why i mostly use angled if its available

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wouldnt really call it a super advanced technique

static sentinel
mortal notch
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but i still train my ads sens

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because i can afford to be slightly off with my hipfire because ill make microadjustments with ads anyway

mortal notch
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jesus

coarse valeBOT
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GG @mortal notch, you just advanced to level 6 !

mortal notch
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i jumped to 42.6cm in kovaak for variable aim training

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for the first time and got 2k+ score above my top on ascended tracking first try

normal bloom
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@vivid jolt do you vaak with the sens randomiser?

vivid jolt
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No I have my own method.

frank compass
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"is it ka-nai-ph or nai-ph ?"

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  • cyn
static sentinel
astral dagger
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this is like even worse then recoil headshots with smg

astral dagger
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@vivid jolt found out a way to fix shitty stair cases

normal bloom
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i cant use holo

static sentinel
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@astral dagger @frank compass Ground Plaza starts with a 99 prefix

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??

frank compass
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yes

astral dagger
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s-pleaseread

bronze spruceBOT
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Read the top of the benchmark document next time. Air and Ground plaza end after you kill all the bots (8-10 bots). Also ignore the 99 prefix and only look at the last 3 digits for your score.

astral dagger
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@static sentinel :)

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reading

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is so

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op

static sentinel
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No you retard

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You told me that ground plaza doesn't start with 99

astral dagger
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we told you air doesnt start with 99 prefix

static sentinel
astral dagger
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@frank compass cyn ape

static sentinel
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Brain.exe stop work

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5 am Cyn quotes

astral dagger
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ye bed time for me

astral dagger
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first ever game of valorant, was pretty fun

astral dagger
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they reworked that map?

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tf

warm girder
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this is siege sir

astral dagger
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are you sure?

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!mouse

coarse valeBOT
astral dagger
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!mousepad

coarse valeBOT
astral dagger
#

what scenarios on kovaaaakks should I play for rb6?

gritty ibex
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Sparky Siege Community's Preferred Scenarios for Siege: [WIP]

  • Wide Wall 6 targets
  • 1wall6targets small
  • 1wall5targets_pasu reload
  • 1wall5targets_pasu track
  • Close Long Strafes Invincible
  • Thin Aiming Long Invincible
  • Reflex Flick - Fair
  • VoxTargetSwitch
  • PatTargetSwitch
  • Microshot Speed
  • Microshot Flick
  • 1wall2targets reload
  • DevTargetSwitch Goated
  • TargetAcquisitionFlick
  • Pressure Aiming - 10 Targets
  • 1wall6flick
inland lark
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Pins

gritty ibex
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If I play 16:10 at 90 FOV in siege would I play 1:1VH in kovaaks? Or perhaps 16:9?

astral dagger
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theres

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smzh for that in pins

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too

gritty ibex
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lemme check it out

astral dagger
#

playing on 16:9

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when you have been using anything but that

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for so long

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is so wierd

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been trying tracking recently

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close to plat role

static sentinel
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nice! :d

frank compass
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what's plat on thin gauntlet?

static sentinel
#

860

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@astral dagger ape

astral dagger
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@static sentinel monkey 🙈

static sentinel
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🦍

astral dagger
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@astral dagger ye you the definition of smooth

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xd

static sentinel
astral dagger
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already got 2 scores for plat

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might grind for the rest

static sentinel
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You know how much hurls has?

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0

astral dagger
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hurls been in this server for years and still no roles

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i have played like 4 benchmark scens tho pplaugh

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😛

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nah few months

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never aim prac'd tho

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you been in this discord at least a year

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no

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4 months

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really?

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ye

static sentinel
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hurls plays games that dont really require aim tho

astral dagger
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yes

static sentinel
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and hes not really that bad them

astral dagger
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more like 8

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i play league and siege the fuck do i need aim prac dor

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i play siege and csgo

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still gonna grind that vac

static sentinel
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Yeah I play CS and Siege only as well

astral dagger
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more like 8
@astral dagger its not even 4 mate

static sentinel
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Aim training is for later when I finally find a good game to play

astral dagger
#

xd

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and hes not really that bad them
@static sentinel with no fucking motivation to get better cuz siege is hella boring

static sentinel
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

astral dagger
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Aim training is for later when I finally find a good game to play
@static sentinel wont happen pplaugh

static sentinel
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:(

astral dagger
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at this point

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im signing up for random closed alpha and beta games

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maybe i find smth good at a point

static sentinel
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gonna start escape from tarkov

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as soon as I sell my PS4

astral dagger
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escape from tarkov

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just inst

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that good

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cuz you literally just play for the loot

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since combat and the actual game play

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just arent rewarding

static sentinel
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well ive got a buddy with me so i think itll be fun

astral dagger
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and then you have loot that only helps you in that boring as part

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i play that shit with 5 ppl

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still

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not fun

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i mean everything is fun with mates

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that's closer to 8 than 4sir

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hmmm

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discord kinda troll

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erm

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ye

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then

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joindat

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is fucked

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idk

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mhhmmm

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downloading skate 3 that shit is dope af

#

true

solid rampart
#

time for my kovaaks aka depression sim

astral dagger
#

i mean