scammed
#siege
inland lark
did you export @ 60fps?
and if possible export @ 1440p so that you lose lesser quality
thats the only two things i know abt exporting videos lol
astral dagger
nvm it was exported at 25fps
idk why i set it to 60
too late now i deleted source material
frank compass
Gotta do the 24fps w motion blur for that cinematic experience
astral dagger
@astral dagger if i recall right he just has to message them and gets the import taxes or whatever refunded ?
noble belfry
Yeah
Apparently if you bring it up with amazon telling them that you've been told you have to pay customs they tell the seller to refund you the amount for the customs
coarse valeBOT
GG @noble belfry, you just advanced to level 21 !
noble belfry
Like in a support chat, at least thats what Contuur did don't know if he actually got the money back
astral dagger
you get it back
yep
its also written there
asfaik
The people who sell the artisan pads on amazon state it on the page that they refund any imports
^
idk
just read it lma o
Read customs charges
ppl just need to read
stuff
mortal notch
i cant read
coarse valeBOT
GG @mortal notch, you just advanced to level 3 !
mortal notch
i guess ill see if the seller i bought from will do the same
astral dagger
if i see this in my ranked games
im legit
uninstalling
Tbh with this
they have to add
client side skin option
noble belfry
I mean at least they are high effort for once
but I have no idea why we are going into the realms of fortnite skins
The doki though
vivid jolt
That elite animation is a miss.
noble belfry
I like the outfit though
inland lark
? xDD
astral dagger
vivid jolt
That's excellent.
dawn coyote
looks like some guy accidentally clicked on their dpi button
nvm that is just shit aim + high sens
surreal cosmos
lmao
astral dagger
@frank compass someone on the test server told me it had no recoil
you didnt need to move your mouse
to control it
astral dagger
i hate skins
vivid jolt
I hate happiness, also.
astral dagger
@astral dagger what's your twitter @? also fuck you using twitter for use tweetdeck it's way better
you can add more sections as well it's way better than normal twitter
stiff mirage
Wait so you should have different ADS and hipfire sens?
Isn't that bad for getting used to it?
stiff mirage
Its pretty confusing, how do I calculate the ads sens cm/360
astral dagger
@stiff mirage https://jscalc.io/calc/lJgwOPudGEBnjD66
vivid jolt
I'd definitely recommend having a faster hip sens than ADS sens. No reason to limit yourself.
iron topaz
yeah I believe so
astral dagger
static sentinel
The Siege scope sensitivity and FOV calculator by Cynfadote.
Hmm
Not only did they steal my calc
They also misspelt my name
🤔
vivid jolt
™️
astral dagger
tm
more like tsm
am i right
cos beauloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fanboyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
when does beaulo play guyssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
team beauloooooo middddddd
ayyyyyyyyyyyyoooooooooooooooo
beaujoman
with the hyperlsides not hyperglides
@astral dagger XD
hypersliiiiiiides
XD
😛
@astral dagger you playin ?
ya 2mins dunno if the girl want's to play ranked or just chill in cas with me
i'll lyk soon
sure
vivid jolt
They really ruined the L85 a while ago, man. Who asked for more horizontal recoil? Who really wanted that...
astral dagger
its still
a laser
wdym
i wish they would actually add more recoil
so there would be a little bit of a skill gap
to guns
1taped 3 people with ela pistol eheh
i told you it had more horizontal but you denied it @astral dagger
see contuur was right
grrrrr
velvet fern
Ace is Fun
astral dagger
wasnt that mp5 @astral dagger
btw ak12 hipfire is p good
nah l85 ages ago and you was like nah it doesnt have any
mp5 as well tho that was more recent
well it still doesnt have any
erm
it pulls top left?
but its so ez to compensate for
thats what i mean
nah you said it had non
imagine toast ripping you in grand theft auto
@velvet fern damn babe you threw a bean bag at that man
that's some disrespect
didn't have to do him like that
velvet fern
Had to get him off the phone. We were kind of in the middle of the game. Ya Know?
normal bloom
why does the bearing defy physics
should give it massive vertical recoil but controllable horizontal
granite ivy
the l85 has a ton of horizontal recoil lol
that's why I cant stand it, only use sledge for the smg and frags
you wanna know what gun is actually a laser? the c8
I dont get why they add horizontal recoil to guns that arent strong or arent available for strong ops
you have awful horizontal recoil on the m762 and type 89 for instance, which kinda make sense given the ops
but the l85? wth ubi
frank compass
l85 has no recoil
the m762 doesnt either
the type also doesnt have recoil until youre about 10 bullets into the spray
are you high ?
granite ivy
umm, they have a ton of horizontal recoil
which sucks, since it can be random and throw you off if youre holding a pixel
frank compass
youre actually wrong
granite ivy
yeah, but most guns havent been changed
granite ivy
its not reliable for the skorpion and f2, but everything else has stayed the same
granite ivy
lol no
granite ivy
p1 in latam, so like na champ
granite ivy
wth dude, are you seriously going to tell me that you don't see the horizontal recoil on the l85 and m762?
frank compass
Im telling you that those guns are lasers yes
granite ivy
sure, they have no vertical recoil
coarse valeBOT
GG @granite ivy, you just advanced to level 2 !
granite ivy
if thats your definition of laser youd be right
i mean, just go into thunt and compare the horizontal spread of the l85 vs say the c8
frank compass
No papi I mean they have minimal horizontal recoil
and they have low vertical
or very easily controllable vertical
granite ivy
i dont think were actually playing the same game tbqh
frank compass
I dont think youve ever climbed out of gold
if you think the l85 and m762 has recoil
granite ivy
i mean, thats an unnecesary level of aggression but it doesn't change the fact that those guns have random horizontal recoil much higher than most meta attacker guns
do i need to somehow prove it to you?
frank compass
you are basing these claims off a resource that is 2 years old
and based on Grim Sky patterns
when if youve ever actually played siege, you know that almost every gun in the game has a different recoil pattern every patch
granite ivy
nah, im basing them on my own experience which is backed by the data i posted
granite ivy
and there have been 0 announcements of general recoil changes in patch notes,
frank compass
no shit
???
have you actually played the game tho?
have you tried using the smg 11 last patch and compared it to this one?
have you tried using the type 89 last patch and then compared it to this one
they are completely different patterns
granite ivy
they aren't patterns, and they haven't changed since grim sky
frank compass
youre incorrect
granite ivy
can we get a tie break here cyn?
because I seriously don't get what he's on right now
frank compass
if you want someone to tie break it should be Vladr, hurls, or mini since theyre not dogshit at the game
lmao
actually i have no idea what rank you are cyn
but im assuming youre around toast's
granite ivy
that's a lot of hate lol
frank compass
👍
granite ivy
tbf, by this point im expecting you to be champ or high diamond at least
would be a let down otherwise
4-3 here, so youll get your evidence in a minute
granite ivy
based on the nonsense you've been spouting it might as well be true, y'know?
granite ivy
lol, everyone knows latam > eu > na in terms of ranked sweatyness
frank compass
LOL
Youre actually so wrong
it's insane
why do you think every NA player region swaps to EU to get their champ?
granite ivy
lmao wat?
frank compass
did you not know that?
granite ivy
anyway, based on my own experience, na is so much easier than latam
frank compass
literally half of the NA T3 scene region swaps EU to get champ because EU is fucking freelo
granite ivy
even with 120 ping
frank compass
Thats because on NA you ping
????
and you probably play WUS
which is one of the least competitive servers in the game
lmao
frank compass
Ping always gives advantage to the one peeking
granite ivy
lol
coarse valeBOT
GG @granite ivy, you just advanced to level 3 !
frank compass
that is a fact of how the netcode works
Ping is advantageous to the individual who is peeking
low vs high and high vs low
also if youre LATAM and have played NA you probably playedWUS, which is full of the shitty NA players who arent good enough to play EUS, KingGeorge, and WJA/LATAM players
it's a dogshit server
stiff mirage
Wait so how do I setup my Kovaak's settings? I gotta put in my ADS sens somehow right? But its different on different scopes so idk
coarse valeBOT
GG @stiff mirage, you just advanced to level 4 !
frank compass
@stiff mirage when playing kovaaks, if you want to do it simplified, just use your holo (1x) sensitivity
if you need help finding your holo sensitivity @static sentinel can probably help
frank compass
ah yes dev blogs are infamously always correct
thank you, I have been mistaken
please forgive my negligence
granite ivy
so, you'd rather trust your gut instead of what the actual devs tell you?
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
i think im sensing a pattern here
frank compass
Id rather trust my thousands of hours in the game
rather than what the devs "say" is correct
yes
frank compass
sorry cyn forgive me :<
granite ivy
huh, it must be hard to be that ignorant
stiff mirage
Do I gotta use the website to find the sens?
static sentinel
no more calculator for you
static sentinel
:(
stiff mirage
This?
frank compass
@stiff mirage The math they give you on there is unoptimal, its really only good for getting FOVs of different scopes
use Cyn's calculator in pins
to get your cm/360 for holo, and then you can use #commands to convert that to either a siege or source sensitivity to use in kovaaks
static sentinel
frank compass
unless Cyn has a method that removes that redundant step
static sentinel
Dont think so
frank compass
Actually you can use this spreadsheet
itll give you a source sensitivity to convert to
I always forget I have that
frank compass
does it?
static sentinel
frank compass
oh it does
static sentinel
Scope Sensitivity
static sentinel
^
frank compass
last time I looked at your calc I was trying to find a way to include multiplier rather than just xfactor
and my small brain couldnt make the math work
🙂
frank compass
yea I always normalize sens by converting to source
static sentinel
So MouseMult * Sens/0.02 = NormalisedSens
frank compass
but I couldnt do that on your calc because I didnt understand the jscalc coding
ah
see that wouldve been
much simpler
static sentinel
Wait people can see my source code?
frank compass
yes
frank compass
you just make a copy of the calc and you can edit @static sentinel
@stiff mirage yes
static sentinel
Oh no, someone had to see that ._.
stiff mirage
Oh cool
frank compass
had to see what?
stiff mirage
And which FOV measurement?
static sentinel
My coding, I got neater the past year but I dont remember it being that bad
frank compass
@stiff mirage veritcal 1:1
@static sentinel oh lmaooo
My coding skills are quite terrible so like I couldnt figure out how to work it out
frank compass
@formal stag 60-75 is what I recommend for ads slider
Toast would recommend you 83
err
static sentinel
frank compass
Toast would recommend you Xfactor=1 and 100 in game
static sentinel
They finally fixed it
Now I dont have to copy and remake the calculator
Everytime I want to edit it
lime wyvern
Toast doesn't recommend 1.0Xfactor
frank compass
nice!
formal stag
ty
frank compass
@lime wyvern does he not?
lime wyvern
nope
frank compass
ah
i thought i saw him do it before
regardless
60-75 is generally a good ads slider value
but it depends
how much you play from hip and how much you play from ads
and also your roles
static sentinel
'use strict';
//define .1 mrad
var dotmrad = 0.00572958;
//SET THE INPUTS
var Sens = inputs.Sensitivity;
var ADS = inputs.ADS;
var XFactor = inputs.XFactor;
var FOV = inputs.FOV;
var DPI = inputs.DPI;
var Inch = inputs.Inch;
function revCalculator(SensAC)
{
if(!Inch)
{
return (360/((SensAC * dotmrad) * DPI)) * 2.54 + " cm";
}
else if(Inch)
{
return (360/((SensAC * dotmrad) * DPI)) + " inches";
}
}
//FOR ACOG SCOPES
var ACOGADS;
if((ADS * XFactor * 0.35) > 1)
{
ACOGADS = 1 * Sens;
}
else if((ADS * XFactor * 0.35) < 0)
{
ACOGADS = 0;
}
else
{
ACOGADS = (ADS * XFactor * 0.35) * Sens;
}
//----------------------------------------
//FOR 1x SCOPES
var x1ADS;
if((ADS * XFactor * 0.6) > 1)
{
x1ADS = 1 * Sens;
}
else if((ADS * XFactor * 0.6) < 0)
{
x1ADS = 0;
}
else
{
x1ADS = (ADS * XFactor * 0.6) * Sens;
}
//----------------------------------------
//FOR GLAZ
var GlazADS;
if((ADS * XFactor * 0.3) > 1)
{
GlazADS = 1 * Sens;
}
else if((ADS * XFactor * 0.3) < 0)
{
GlazADS = 0;
}
else
{
GlazADS = (ADS * XFactor * 0.3) * Sens;
}
//----------------------------------------
return {
'Scope Sensitivity': [{
ACOG: ACOGADS,
'Holo/Red Dot/Iron Sights': x1ADS,
Glaz: GlazADS
}],
'FOV Values': [{
ACOG: FOV * 0.35,
'Holo/Red Dot/Iron Sights': FOV * 0.9,
Glaz: FOV * 0.3
}],
'rev/360': [{
Hipfire: revCalculator(Sens),
ACOG: revCalculator(ACOGADS),
'Holo/Red Dot/Iron Sights': revCalculator(x1ADS),
Glaz: revCalculator(GlazADS)
}]
};
Holy shit
Thats long asf
frank compass
i mean sens in siege isnt that important because the game is more reliant on xhair placement and positioning than mouse control, but there are theoretically "optimal" sensitivity ranges depending on your primary role and also your resolution/ratio
static sentinel
^^^^
frank compass
also I will say (because I see it a lot in here) if you are obsessing over your aim as a reason why you arent improving and you are consistently under 3800 elo, it is likely not your aim that is the issue
but rather your decision making, game sense, and xhair placement
static sentinel
I dont like how Siege feels claustrophobic
static sentinel
No, CS feels like a fresh breath of air after Siege
frank compass
I dont like how CS feels extremely restrictive
in terms of aim and movement
I dont think it feels more or less claustrophobic than siege tho
static sentinel
After Valorant and its shitty walking shooting mechanic
I get why CS is restricting movement
frank compass
I mean my fav fps title is Titanfall 2
so like im very big on movement
out of the traditional games I prefer quake to CS style
granite ivy
@frank compass let's actually have a civilized conversation now, shall we?
see how both the l85 and m762 have significantly higher horizontal recoil when compared to the c8
granite ivy
take a look at the l85 where i control for the vertical recoil and see how far off to the left it goes
that's the kind of recoil that messes up an angle for sure
granite ivy
lol it's not
frank compass
lol it is
granite ivy
im not gonna set up a handcam
frank compass
you dont have to
granite ivy
so im just gonna link some clips where there's no "drift"
frank compass
it is going to be near impossible for you to pull straight vertically down ever without any sort of mouse drift
mouse drift is a very common, unavoidable thing
frank compass
When I am talking about recoil patterns I am talking about the thing you did in the first 10 seconds of each video where you sprayed them at a wall and did no amount of interference
also if anything your C8 video showed that the C8 had more horizontal variance than the m762
in the parts where you actually controlled recoil
granite ivy
i don't think it did, in any case the c8 clearly needs less controlling vertically and that's consistent with the recoil diamonds in game
now, im actually curious to see if I have mouse drift so I'll upload a clip and would appreciate if you'd watch it
frank compass
I think all guns should have patterns similar to the C8
because the C8 is a very easy gun to control, but many new players/bad players find it difficult
which indicates that is is a good example for high skill recoil
when compared to many other guns in the game that are very low recoil and really dont require any effort and or practice to use
granite ivy
i agree with that, but i wouldn't mind more or less defined patterns like the l85 and type-89 have
since, dont hate me for this, both have very high horizontal recoil but it just goes one way
frank compass
I dont like the change they did to the Type in Void Edge
Shifting Tides recoil was better
Void Edge change made the horizontal kick in much earlier which meant muzzle was no longer the BiS (personally) attachment
mental snow
l8 has random horizontal after the first few bullets otherwise its a laser
frank compass
it isnt a lot of horizontal tho
mental snow
compared to other guns it is but its still not a lot
most of the ars are lasers
or very controllable vertical recoil
frank compass
idk why they keep changing the f2
exactly
like they nerfed damage, ammo, recoil, recoil, recoil
granite ivy
i don't mind the f2 nerfs but nerfing both the f2 and her utility so much is just dumb
mental snow
also
ping gives the advantage to whoever is swinging
considering youre from latam i assume ur swinging first lol
granite ivy
she's usable, kinda like buck but why the hell would you use her since you can barely get any work done with the drone
mental snow
scus has mexican sweat stacks occasionally otherwise its just solo queuers
granite ivy
lol, latam does teach you to be aggressive
mental snow
im talking if you exclude the cheaters
frank compass
well I agree
I was just adding in
the fact EUS has probably a 1 to 10 ratio of hackers to legit players
granite ivy
the one thing i've learned from brazilians is that it doesn't matter how much you wanna strat in ranked if nesk is gonna rush you
mental snow
weu theres pro stacks but they dont bring the same energy as NA pro stacks
still good players though
frank compass
CUS is probably 1 to 8 of closests to legit players
frank compass
NA T3 stacks actually full execute
shitty random no name stacks on EUS full execute
granite ivy
it's silly how you get constantly matched with PL and CL teams in latam because they barely tryhard in ranked and are in low diamond
mental snow
every pro stack ive played on latam they just play it like its ranked which is fine, because its ranked, but they dont bring the same energy as na pro stacks
latam pro stacks just rush with lion every round and fly out and swing
frank compass
Most of the LATAM pros Ive seen in the past 4 months have been playing the LATAM Ten Mans
granite ivy
they play a ton of r6tms, which is why they barely try in ranked
but they still have insane gunskill
sooooo
mental snow
yea so it defeats your argument that latam ranked is sweatier lol
frank compass
^
granite ivy
it's sweatier for the regular players
mental snow
individually the players might be better but NA eus ranked stacks coordinate very well
static sentinel
Is 4:3 viable in ranked
frank compass
yes
granite ivy
yup
static sentinel
Cause people be speed demoning
granite ivy
4:3 gang
static sentinel
Kinda like Pengu said
granite ivy
yeah, a swinging ash main isn't fun on 4.3
static sentinel
I play 16:9, should I hope over to 16:10?
granite ivy
fwiw, I cant play 16:9 1x
frank compass
ratio is kinda irrelevant
granite ivy
i just feel unsafe
frank compass
I dont play 90 fov
granite ivy
16:10 is passable tho
frank compass
ive played every res for minimum 3 months
I think 16:9/10 fit flex players best
16:10 / 3:2 works well for supports and 4:3 / 16:10 work very well for entries/roamers
imo
frank compass
3:2 is a good res
static sentinel
Yo @mental snow I checked you out, u r insane 👍
frank compass
Vladr very good player, prob some of the best movement out of the T3 NA players
imo
granite ivy
got it
granite ivy
vladr kinda nutty ngl
coarse valeBOT
GG @granite ivy, you just advanced to level 4 !
granite ivy
@frank compass is there noticeable drift?
because i've never actually noticed my recoil being affected by that
frank compass
Its hard to tell from that angle
granite ivy
here's the ingame video to show that i was actually looking at the screen lmao
ah gotcha
static sentinel
BREATHING
frank compass
you correct left
but how much you pull left relative to recoil is hard to tell
mouse drift isnt going to affect you in game very much
if at all
but when you aim train and when you just spray at a wall it will be semi noticeable
because those are events where it is semi-isolated
granite ivy
i actually do move to the left a bit, i didn't catch that at first
wonder if that's just a c8 thing, due to me adapting to the recoil or a general thing
frank compass
the problem with doing full sprays on a wall is they also arent representative of real game
because how often are you full 30 bullet spraying?
granite ivy
ofc, just feel like it's better to do the full spray for the hell of it
frank compass
well yes for sheer testing purposes it is
but for using it for comparison to in game it lacks
because most sprays in really any game Tac FPS games like CS/Val/Siege are 8-12 bullets
granite ivy
agreed, but you sometimes have those sprays in cs where you just need the whole mag
anyway, while we're at it, imma just flex some of that c8 recoil control
frank compass
@static sentinel i actually have no idea how the ubi engine rescales for diff ratios on the same monitor resolution
like that does baffle me
granite ivy
im fairly sure it just forces the actual 16:10 res
worn wagon
It is just how much horizontal fov you get for a certain amount of verical FOV
frank compass
@worn wagon that actually might be correct
worn wagon
So for 4:3 you get less horizontal FOV for the same amount of vertical FOV than 16:9
It is correct
frank compass
that would make
static sentinel
Hey Exo
frank compass
a lot of sense
static sentinel
frank compass
no 74 is 106 horizontal
worn wagon
That is in 1x ADS
worn wagon
Hey @static sentinel
static sentinel
worn wagon
How do you guys feel that 9/10 slots for CL are from nationals?
worn wagon
Open Quals
static sentinel
frank compass
mmmm
how many national events are there?
I mean i think it is smart to promote national play in EU
worn wagon
Next CL EU:
Penta
Defusekids
9 teams winners of Nationals(or runners up if the winner in in CL/PL)
1 open qual
I mean it is cool, but not fair to mixed nationality teams
frank compass
Well
worn wagon
And some scenes are weaker then others
frank compass
statistically national teams perform better than mixed counterparts
Forze, Empire, BDS, etc
or at least they are more likely to be sustainable teams long term
worn wagon
G2 is mixed though. Empire has an Estonian. Also here it is 3/5 anyways and most teams are 3/5 not 5/5
But this change gives my team pretty solid chances of CL
worn wagon
Or 2/5 with an org from the region
frank compass
ok yea
worn wagon
Yes it is 3/5
worn wagon
But than Russian Major League or French League are really tough
frank compass
Yes that is true
but I think the hope is you encourage more comp in weaker regions
worn wagon
And some other winners might be much weaker that 3-4th team in Russian or French league
worn wagon
Ye, I think I already know who will go to CL from German Nationals
Yes benelux, Nordic, UK, Russia, France, Italy, Spain and 2 others
frank compass
ah Nordic and Italy I forget about
UK is pretty competitive
last I checked
but with Secret gone maybe not as much
worn wagon
Not too competitive
Enclave isn't too good and 5th place was a mix who kinda trolled
Nordic is just weird
mental snow
thanks for the support guys 😊
static sentinel
<3
astral dagger
so, you'd rather trust your gut instead of what the actual devs tell you?
@granite ivy i would , especially since f.e. all the pictures in the menus for gun patterns are wrong
3:2, damn thats the first time Im hearing of that
@static sentinel used to play it too, its a good res
inland lark
5:4 looks nice when i play 1x
astral dagger
if you want someone to tie break it should be Vladr, hurls, or mini since theyre not dogshit at the game
@frank compass i feel honored
Playing pc building sim and look at the mousepad options XD
inland lark
Any microsoft ones
astral dagger
@frank compass btw i cringed when he called sledge a weak operator
or thatcher
ayyyyyy furs s
granite ivy
@astral dagger I wouldn’t say they are wrong, it’s just that most people don’t know how to interpret them.
They are supposed to show you the recoil any given shot could have. So you can’t actually determine a recoil pattern based on them, but they are a good indication of the overall recoil yoi can expect
astral dagger
i know how to interpret them :)
i know how recoil diamonds work
they still are in no way accurate
" they are a good indication of the overall recoil yoi can expect"
this is all they do
at best
granite ivy
I mean, if you compare the chart to the actual recoil you get per shot in game they seem accurate enough to me
astral dagger
blocked for "unallowed words"
ubi even fucks my name choiches now
smh
i think skeet is in the filter
for some reason
static sentinel
KEKW
astral dagger
iron topaz
I don't understand, I get removed elo at least once a day but I play in a 5 stack 90% of the time
what is removing my elo?
frank compass
are you alluding to the idea that jolly has the same level of aim as someone that would have the eclipse rank in this discord? @astral dagger
because the answer (if that was the question) is no. Jolly's aim would probably fall into master/gm for clicking/targetswitching and I have no idea in terms of tracking, it's very hard to say.
That being said his sensitivity is actually incredibly suboptimal and I very much discourage anyone from emulating it.
astral dagger
Ty for quick answer.
frank compass
the closest you can see to eclipse rank level mouse control is yu
voxel for targetswitching
maybe scuezy for clicking
daan for tracking
would all be good
but it's hard to say cause tmk there hasnt ever been a person of eclipse status
astral dagger
@frank compass jollys aim would be platinum
astral dagger
if hes gm/master i should be gm master level ahah
frank compass
mmmmm
depends
Id need to see him do a static target scen
then I could actually tell
ive seen you do a static target scen tho
astral dagger
actually watch the video, the kills he gets that arent lucky or wallbang headshots are pretty meh
frank compass
Ive seen plenty of jolly videos in the past
I dont need to watch another
ik what his aim looks like
it's very flashy
astral dagger
Where would Beaulo's aim be estimated at?
frank compass
gm mightve been too high of praise
but I do think he could get to master clicking at the very least
@astral dagger it is incredibly hard to say due to the fact that in game aim does not directly correlate to kovaaks (and vice versa)
because in game aim includes movement, positioning, and xhair placement as well as mouse control
while aim trainers only attempt to train mouse control (for the most part)
based on the fact vladr and cryo (intravec? idr what his name change is) are both master in here, I would assume jolly and beaulo could prob hit around master
astral dagger
every insane aimer or pro in siege is probably platinum level if they dont specifically grind kovaaks
frank compass
I mean
did you grind kovaaks for that 170 1w6t te score?
also Im speaking purely about ts and clicking
and ignoring tracking
astral dagger
yeah i grinded for 170
frank compass
oh
so like
not much higher than me
you just progressed much better LMAO
yea then itd be incredibly hard to accurate say
astral dagger
i have 80 hours in kovak
That's pretty impressiv though. 140 on first day.
Long time ago I had dogshit aim and gamesense, now it's just my gamesense that is still dogshit.
but I'm still above average mechanically even among better players even though i cant even get plat rank on this server
Well I probably have a mental disability that prevents my gamesense from further developing. I'm struggling in low gold/high silver.
frank compass
vod review yourself
astral dagger
Done that everyday
frank compass
or post clutches here
astral dagger
With others
frank compass
and I can give feedback
i say clutches specifically (won or lost) because tehyre the best
for looking at decision making
since it is isolated in a similar sense to the way kovaaks isolates mouse control
astral dagger
A failed clutch
game sense comes from making decisions in the same scenario over and over again
eventually you will know the best decision to make
even if it doesnt win you the round
frank compass
youre leaning too much
astral dagger
I apologize for the keyboard noise.
frank compass
also your xhair placement is super low
other than that, that was an abysmally bad situation
astral dagger
outside of mechanical skill you dont win that
frank compass
^^^
frank compass
^
astral dagger
Well thanks.
Does it get too obnoxious if I post a couple failed clutch clips every day?
post plant is almost impossible to clutch anything above a 1v2-3~
nope
Sounds good then. I appreciate the helps
also, your best bet when the enemy goes for a plant is to force a gunfight
instead of you playing passive and letting them plant putting you in 1v4 you can force a gunfight while the planter is planting becuase its 1v3
For a long time I've always wondered if I'm the only silver ranked player here.
also forces the planter off becuase once the plant goes down you lose
If I am the only one, that would be difficult to find friends to play with.
yeah most people here are plat level i would say
failed clutch by me
inland lark
Which region are you from
astral dagger
anz
astral dagger
what is removing my elo?
@iron topaz you beating closets
@frank compass hes no where close to gm
my first day was like 140
@astral dagger i had 148 iirc
yeah most people here are plat level i would say
ye plat or higher
depends on if they stack or not
If I am the only one, that would be difficult to find friends to play with.
@astral dagger region ?
pallid bough
nice to see you here aljo :D
mortal notch
@astral dagger @astral dagger "we will not cover customs charges. That is a customers responsibility" 🤓
Guess I'll go to Amazon support next
lime wyvern
I love the exhale of disappointment
astral dagger
who did you buy it from?
and ye if you go to amazon they should refund you as that's how amazon works you should pay imports
@mortal notch
mortal notch
I got it off Amazon.jp because of faster shipping
Was a week faster even though it got delayed by 8 days
astral dagger
I love the exhale of disappointment
@lime wyvern its just disappointing to see ppl play the game like that
ok don't ask about the first kill the game wouldn't let me shoot for a year but ye XD https://streamable.com/j6ypkf
:))
night radish
Looks like i missed a fascinating argument
What level would Muzi be at? Thats the real question
He is nuts aimer
Or spoit
astral dagger
spoit
has insane movement and crosshair placement
muzi is the better raw aimer out of the two
obvsly muzis movement etc is nuts too
spoit has the best mechanical skill ive seen in this game
beaulo used to have the best imo but he isnt so crazy anymore these days
inland lark
Will beaulo lean make him great again?
tepid cosmos
He’s prob more used to comp now instead of playing for content
inland lark
hmm ye
tepid cosmos
If he quit comp to create content he could easily relearn how to play like a monkey
inland lark
haha
plucky spoke
Is it me or is the acog sens way too high
vivid jolt
Supr tweets are always entertaining.
astral dagger
@astral dagger whats up
coarse valeBOT
GG @astral dagger, you just advanced to level 7 !
turbid spruce
Hey I just got siege on pc a couple days ago any tips im a lvl 208 on console buh is there anything pc wise I should know like different key mappings?
vivid jolt
Pins.
Keybinds are usually kept default. There aren't any mandatory setting-changes that come to mind except for turning off Bloom.
stiff mirage
Do you mostly stay in ADS for the majority of the time or just ADS when you're about to shoot, by like quickscoping or sth
?
night radish
Thats your playstyle dependent
But rounding a corner or coming up on a common angle, ads
astral dagger
People who play high ads don't really walk around un-ads
if you play smth like below 50 ads id say your rely on scoping in more
yes
astral dagger
I've had a feeling to mess around with my sens again recently
i wanna go higher and lower so prob gonna try out a load of different ads sens from 50ads to 75ish with 6-800dpi
is it just me who gets these phases of just wanting to play lower and higher sens?
like i wake up and wanna play 50-60cm then next day i wanna play 40cm i can't decide on 1 haha
why does everyone play 84fov with 4:3?
astral dagger
should i change sens tho or?
should i just play around with different sens for a while or?
frank compass
@pallid bough 
astral dagger
nah just wanna play around see what i like more kinda bored of 44cm
astral dagger
im ok yahaa
frank compass
y it's a good experience
frank compass
basic
vivid jolt
Siege friendos!
I have a request.
I'm trying to compile a playlist of the best videos of Siege aim. So if you have any great examples of aim in Siege, send me the link. I don't care about how good or consistent the player is, I don't care how good of a fragger they are, I don't care what rank it's in, I just want to see examples of extraordinary mouse movement in Siege.
So far this is what I have:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3NAvpbWCsMmZcyTECg6sG4FX9s69ffCC
raw fox
https://twitter.com/SuzakuR6/status/1074045515656916992?s=20 2018 r6 was somethin else.
we miss chapstick
frank compass
I miss Chapstick
so much
:<
He still plays sometimes with that group tho
it's just a shame he went dark :/
stiff mirage
Are there any good videos for learning siege or do I gotta read the pinned guide?
frank compass
I mean there are a lot of older videos
some of them are still semi applicable
but the pinned guide is what we would recommend
frank compass
yes and yes
tepid cosmos
https://youtu.be/cKdCXE6JZjU @vivid jolt one of my personal favourites. Incredible aimer
static sentinel
@vivid jolt There is always me 
frank compass
raw fox
is that n9ted?
mental snow
Honestly, just link spoits youtube instead of putting individual videos toast
coarse valeBOT
GG @mental snow, you just advanced to level 12 !
frank compass
lmao
vivid jolt
Added Cyn.
static sentinel
I am honored
mental snow
@astral dagger u lean too much and you wasted so much time doing nothing, when ur at a man disadvantage you have to create an opening otherwise theyre just gonna hold crossfires that guarantee you get out-traded even if you get one or two
your goal when clutching is to A prevent them from being able to plant B killing them all C getting lucky post plant in a 1vX
1v2 post plant is winnable
static sentinel
B killing them all
mental snow
1v3 post plant is almost impossible without huge throws from the attack, regardless of HP
static sentinel
Isnt that the purpose of the whole game?
mental snow
yes, but when the bomb is planted it swaps atk/defence roles - the defenders now have to become the agressors and retake into positions usually without intel
the attackers have better guns - when bomb is down and they are on defence its very difficult to win
time is also on attackers side when bomb is down
vivid jolt
1v2 is almost impossible without a huge throw from attack.
mental snow
which is why the emphasis in competitive play is objective centric rather than just drone in and kill 5 people every round
yes, but its the most winnable of post plant 1vXs in theory
vivid jolt
Clutches are only hard if the enemy team coordinates their lives together. You can win a 1v10 if you get everyone into a 1v1 gunfight. The issue is when they attack simultaneously.
mental snow
yes, which is why i said you usually want to make your play BEFORE they plant the bomb- then they can just take a cozy position and force you to swing into their crossfires
vivid jolt
Oh, I'm not arguing against you. I'm agreeing. I was just elaborating a perspective of why it should be hard.
mental snow
yee
its also good to bump up the agression right when you hear the plant tick as well - the 1v2 becomes a 1v1 temporarily etc
intel is pretty much everything in siege tbh
vivid jolt
Facts. The amount of times I see a teammate in a 1v2-3 and he's still crouching around when he hears defuser going down.. is too much.
frank compass
I mean the clip he posted started as a 1v4 with 90 seconds left for attack to execute on consulate garage
im not sure about how the rest of the site set up looked
vivid jolt
That's when you should make a kill happen now. Underrated advice.
frank compass
but he wasnt going to win that
unless they threw massively
but he did also not play it optimally
static sentinel
Is playing NA on EU winnable?
frank compass
huh
vivid jolt
If you peek everything, yes. You can't play defense.
static sentinel
I live on the edge of EU, so Im technically closer than other countries/EU players
static sentinel
Liverpool
static sentinel
Then I should get aorund 60 
static sentinel
I get 30 to London cause theres a shittonna cities between Liverpool and London
Thats great, I used to play with 150 ping, near unplayable
frank compass
what server
were you connecting to??
lmao
idk why youd want to play NA as EU tho
EU is easier
static sentinel
I wasnt exactly in EU before
A bipolar country, which cant decide if it is EU or Asia
static sentinel
I know, I am trying to not mention the name of the country lmao
frank compass
o
static sentinel
Kebab
frank compass
the first thing I thought of was HK but that def isnt right lmao
static sentinel
frank compass
my friend from Ireland who has the worst internet to ever exist got like 90 ping to EUS
so you should be fine to play EUS
frank compass
uh
vivid jolt
Considering buying a Wokka mural for my room.
frank compass
NA Central is in like Utah
and NA East is in VA
so that's def bullshit
there is no way you get better ping to CUS than EUS
@vivid jolt group buy!?!?!?
mental snow
i used to get 35-45 ping on CUS, now i get upwards of 60 its actual pain
mental snow
yea thats an L
frank compass
Toast
vivid jolt
Bruh.
frank compass
are you actually
vivid jolt
Bro.
frank compass
?????
vivid jolt
Maaan.
frank compass
are you trolling?
frank compass
NEU, WEU
static sentinel
vivid jolt
So it WAS you who ruined Szyma's clip.
https://youtu.be/iZb5f8hNWbE?t=32
frank compass
NEU is liverpool or london I think?
LOL
wait
which clip did I ruin?
I dont even remember that game
TTS for Y4S3, holy shit that is old
@vivid jolt how do you even remember this clip?
like what???
also I can tell you we lost that Kafe game 1-4 and then the next game we played we got Clubhouse on BR servers (if you remember that TTS/Ember Rise bug where it would randomly server swap you)
and the only reason I know that is because Phantom Sight was the only season I recorded TTS games for
vivid jolt
It's in the playlist I was talking about earlier.
He hit a few impressive shots in that video.
frank compass
Toast did you actually think I was german?
vivid jolt
Yes.
frank compass
what gave you that impression?
frank compass
I carried him on NA
vivid jolt
@astral dagger
frank compass
for 9 hours
vivid jolt
Talk that shit, Queen.
static sentinel
Are Blues bad for gaming
frank compass
not necessarily
static sentinel
Ive been using them for a while and they feel heavy and clunky
Finally got a Huntsman TE
frank compass
Necrox used Blues back in the day
Id say that Blues are better than silvers/speeds
frank compass
just because people misclick a lot with silvers/speeds
I mean I pref Browns
personally
cause good to type and game on
vivid jolt
@frank compass Strafe w/ MX Silents.
Going to be doing a custom board as soon as it's in stock.
vivid jolt
CTRL High Profile but gonna lube some Healios switches and stick 'em in.
frank compass
also I was really assuming youd either have a k95 or youd have some decked custom
oooh that sounds nice
vivid jolt
Also gotta get some different caps.
frank compass
Im not a fan of the trench that the STRAFE and High Profile have
makes cleaning harder
but most kbs have the trench
so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
frank compass
I think itd be better to save the money and just get the normal variant
but preference at the end of the day
frank compass
my friend jelly has like a $600 custom iirc
actually stupid how expensive
they can get
vivid jolt
Honestly is.
But considering how often I use it, it'd be stupid to not get the best I can get.
I use my keyboard more than my bed.
frank compass
the benefit to hotswappable boards is you can worry less if you get switches you dont really like
the downside is
you can spend hundreds of dollars on switches alone
static sentinel
@vivid jolt Thats the exact same argument I told my mom trying to convince her to buy me a new keeb
vivid jolt
If your parents weren't raised with it, it's not important.
mental snow
God, is it bad i preferred my old beat up GSR than my new fresh out the box one O_O
frank compass
no
static sentinel
My parents are wiser than that
They understand they I have fun playing PC
And are willing to support and buy me PC related shit
mental snow
Bored. time to change sens
static sentinel
lol
frank compass
i feel that
astral dagger
Talk that shit, Queen.
@vivid jolt cant
grinding the superior shooter rn
terraria is so insane
frank compass
lol
vivid jolt
46cm, superior cm.
vivid jolt
Imagine having a decimal in your 360/cm. Disgusting.
night radish
Toast pin your playlist thing
vivid jolt
Dude I literally haven't played NA Siege in like 3 weeks how am I losing elo..
mental snow
EVerybody is cheater