#siege

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snow marsh
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ima just wait till it can ship again because i need to replace this gsr

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its like $30 right?, (the hein)

ocean jewel
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Is Ireland a country

coarse valeBOT
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GG @ocean jewel, you just advanced to level 6 !

frank compass
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the hien pricing is dependent on size

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mine was ~$55 with shipping

snow marsh
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im planning on getting xl

frank compass
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yea so like $55

snow marsh
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mmm ok, by the time theyre available i should be able to get it

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i assume you got yours through amazon? @frank compass

frank compass
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no

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I bought mine from artisan

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its like a $45 pad + shipping from JP to US

astral dagger
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if they ever added acogs back to guns

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do you think they will nerf it

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the gun

astral dagger
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yo guys what contrast do you play on for monitor settings

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i was looking at hyperglides today and couldn't see them cos my contrast was high i turn it down to 40% now i can see them

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can't see these when i go past 40%

inland lark
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60%

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Im using a g2460pf aoc monitor

normal bloom
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whats your gamma on contuur?

astral dagger
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@inland lark i got same monitor haha

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@normal bloom gamma 3

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using brightness 90 contrast 40 gamma 3 shadow control 50 all red 100 blue 100 green 100

normal bloom
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ah

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idk

inland lark
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That shit is bright af man

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Mine is brightness 50 contrast 60 shadow control 40 gamma 1, rgb cool preset

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@astral dagger

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Can u see your targets clearly in siege?

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Oh my brightness ingame is 75

astral dagger
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Ye I think I will try yours out tho

inland lark
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Idk man

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If i put rgb on 100 on villa i could barely see anyth

astral dagger
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What’s your rgb settings?

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Ah cool preset nvm

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Didn’t see that

inland lark
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Yep

astral dagger
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@noble belfry I'm struggling with scores

vivid jolt
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Play scen. Scen good. Good use. Need more plays.

astral dagger
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@astral dagger why u post ash acog

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i got really exited when i load up tts :(

vivid jolt
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You can't fall for that bait, man. There's no way this would be the first place you hear about something like that.

inland lark
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The thing ash mains cant live without

vivid jolt
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Being useful?

astral dagger
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i log into my tts account

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lvl 30 no skins

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i think its bugged

astral dagger
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wtf

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was that

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LMAO

snow marsh
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you just made me feel bad about the amount of times I got rolled by that shotgun today @astral dagger

astral dagger
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also i dont have attachment skins

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didnt give them to me

frank compass
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why did tehy change that shotgun

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i genuinely dont understand

astral dagger
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yo this shotgun fucking sucks

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literally the worst gun ive ever used in this game

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terrible gun

normal bloom
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attachment skins?

snow marsh
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Yea, there are skins you can put in attachments in new szn

astral dagger
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why do ubi keep making up words for their names

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i liked it when all the ops were named after things

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besides montagne

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Montagne is also named after a thing

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just in French

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cuz hes French

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finally ordered a decent cpu

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@astral dagger intel cpus have l;owe latency time than ryzen

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better for gaming

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@astral dagger I have a am4 mobo also ryzen is best price performance and the latency time doesn’t matter only thing that makes a good impact on gaming is ghz cores don’t help and the latency isn’t an issue

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If I was building a pc without limits to cost I would go Intel 9700k or the new 10900k but for best price ryzen is great 2600is one of the best budget cpus atm 6cores 12threads and good clocks for 120ish rn can’t beat it you can throw a 2070 or 1080ti in with a 2600 and hardly bottleneck it’s great

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But the latency thing is so minimal it doesn’t matter

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But ye in terms of gaming performance Intel is on top but for better price to performance and better rendering and streaming capabilities ryzen is on top they have more cores more treads and will destroy high end Intel cpus at rendering steaming etc

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talking gamingn strictly

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not streaming or editing

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if youre gonna stream and edit then go aheadd by all means

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Like I said tho I have a am4 mobo I can’t buy Intel without buying new mobo

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2600 is a great cpu for 110 best Cpu at that price point by far

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Pengu called out king George hahaha

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Called him a Ubisoft ass lick because he is hahahahaha

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He is right in what he said haha

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Was spot on

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He lost his charm for talking shit yet king George is doing streams on Ubisoft twitch to promote new season the little ass licking shit cunt

lime wyvern
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is 84 matched for holo?

normal bloom
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ads?

lime wyvern
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yeaheahhaha

normal bloom
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ye

astral dagger
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everything above 83

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thats when holo caps

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when you go higher it only influences acog

lime wyvern
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yeah I was just making sure

inland lark
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I feel nervous when i play with relaxed wrist

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So difficult lol

astral dagger
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👁️ 👁️

lime wyvern
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worm

sly temple
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wish real life spec ops people did that

noble belfry
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I feel like this game just keeps getting better

vivid jolt
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Why in the world is the ONLY MMR change they make that ranks are shared across all regions?

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That is THE LAST change that needed to happen to MMR.

inland lark
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I guess they are lazy?

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:))

night radish
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Really? Idt its bad tbh

vivid jolt
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Players who complain that Ela got nerfed because they’re too trash to play anything else.

sly temple
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why did they make mmr shared across all regions

inland lark
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Theyre lazy lolol

night radish
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So diamonds cant switch regions and massacre silvers

inland lark
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Ahh...

vivid jolt
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Diamond will still massacre silvers. There's still unranked placement matches every season, and there's still smurf accounts. But now if you get owned by cheaters, smurfs, bad teammates, or bad slumps you're now capped with that as your highest rank without having a chance to try again in other regions. Also it means Champion (Top 500) has spots taken up my cheaters from across the globe, not just your region.

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Just stupid to the actual changes that need to be done (and can be done so easily).

inland lark
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Ubi just need to deal w the cheaters
Everything will be much better...

vivid jolt
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"Missing Teammate
Would you like to cancel the match (Won't affect MMR)?"

inland lark
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Hey thats nice

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What about half way thru dc

vivid jolt
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So basically now we can have someone take the L when a match starts if you know an enemy is a cheater, leave, cancel the match and only have one person lose the elo and sit 15mins.

inland lark
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What if its a disconnection halfway through the match?
And somehow that guy doesnt come back

inland lark
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@astral dagger have u tried my settings?

astral dagger
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you cant cancel midway

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i think

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ashhhhhhhhhhhhh

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UBI

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NICE MATCHMAKING MDR

night radish
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Its alright, doesnt beat last night, one of my teammates dc’s, tries to rejoin match, gets placed in a different ranked game lmao

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Gets abandon penalty in the middle of his other ranked game as well

astral dagger
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just wanting to state

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how much better i am

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than this guy

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:)

frank compass
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@vivid jolt but toast they made it so you have to play 100 games to get champion!

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never before has ubi let cheaters stay unbanned for months at a time that theyve surpassed 100 games!!!

static sentinel
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Ok what the fuck

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This is absolute bullshit

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Literally Big Brother Ubisoft is making me hate their games even more

astral dagger
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I hope ubisoft bans me

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I crave the sweet release of death

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For my account

frank compass
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man good thing I dont have a second account!

astral dagger
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Today acez got an ace with ace

frank compass
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au acez or eu aceez?

vivid jolt
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Nobody is getting banned for smurfing, let's be real.

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They have actual live footage of spinbotters, you think they give enough of a singular fuck to hunt down your Gold alt?

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I'll be out of plat before that ever happens. And judging by my past 26 charms, that ain't happening anytime soon.

inland lark
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xD

frank compass
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xD

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Toast cmon they gotta let the cheaters plague the game for months so they can gather enough data!

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they dont need to gather data on people's alts

vivid jolt
static sentinel
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But my Gold alt!

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Is Siege even worth it in 2020?

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I mean the amount of people leaving

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The cheaters, getting back tracked constantly

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The boring meta

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It just isnt the Siege I was grinding out last summer

timid mist
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guys am i the only one who cant control the buck recoil perfect

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?

frank compass
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yes

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@static sentinel it really isnt

static sentinel
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That is actually sad

frank compass
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Siege has been getting less and less enjoyable for quite some time

static sentinel
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I remember having mad fun

frank compass
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Phantom Sight was the last time I truly enjoyed the game

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yea same

static sentinel
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Playing till 6 am sometimes

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It was just a blast

frank compass
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idk I went on a rant awhile ago out of frustration saying how I never truly enjoyed the game, but looking back, the game really did have its ups

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like there were genuinely good stretches of time where the game was quite enjoyable to play with brief amount of bullshit that ruined the experience

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the new defender and proximity gadget just seem so fucking aids to deal with

surreal cosmos
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yes so true

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do u think melusi is OP

frank compass
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yes

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she's place and forget utility

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and she gets 3 of them

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and they're essentially overpowered barb wire

surreal cosmos
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me too

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3 of them - SLOWS u down and is bulletproof

vivid jolt
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Buck has too much recoil.

surreal cosmos
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i think she should get nerf

vivid jolt
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There's no need.

frank compass
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no

surreal cosmos
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lmao

frank compass
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Buck's recoil is fine

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it's how every gun should be

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tbh

vivid jolt
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There's no reason it needs to be that high.

surreal cosmos
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its fine for me..?

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im using holo tho

frank compass
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it isnt high lmao

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I use acog/flash

surreal cosmos
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yeah pubg recoils are so much higher imo

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r6 is one of the easier games

frank compass
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pubg recoil was stupid

vivid jolt
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By comparison it's the second highest in the game excluding SMG secondaries.

surreal cosmos
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i mean...

frank compass
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apex recoil is harder than siege LMAO

surreal cosmos
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

vivid jolt
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Good.

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Recoil is dumb. Less aim, more pattern memorization and RNG opportunity.

frank compass
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fucking titanfall recoil is harder than siege

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I mean yes and no

surreal cosmos
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Should melusi get nerf?

frank compass
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tactical shooters should have recoil

vivid jolt
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Yes, Melusi needs to be deleted.

surreal cosmos
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i was thinking either less gadget

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or it affects ur team too

frank compass
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I agree with toast

surreal cosmos
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because its so OP

frank compass
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fuck melusi

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dogshit operator

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the proximity alarms also need to be deleted

surreal cosmos
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3 of them!!! free intel!!! waste 3 utility!!! slows u down ez gunfight!!!!

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too op

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im confused

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she should have 2 and not make any sound or affects ur own team

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just imagine. jager wamai goyo maestro melusi or something

frank compass
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@vivid jolt Tactical shooters that have 200ms ttk should have recoil so people cant just laser you cross map. Buck's recoil is fine and more ops should share similar skilled recoils

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most games shouldnt have recoil, I agree

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CS/Val/Siege should

surreal cosmos
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COD ;0

frank compass
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and siege should have more recoil

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on most guns*

surreal cosmos
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imo true

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when smg12 had no recoil... my favorite gun in the game back then ;)

coarse valeBOT
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GG @surreal cosmos, you just advanced to level 9 !

frank compass
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smg12 has never had a good recoil pattern balance wise

vivid jolt
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Horizontal recoil should never be in any game ever period no exception.

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RNG recoil drift is stupid.

frank compass
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Yes

night radish
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Apex recoil is not harder than siege lmaooo

vivid jolt
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Especially in a game with 1 shot headshots.

frank compass
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Apex recoil is worse than siege

night radish
frank compass
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r99 literally has a harder pattern than 9/10 guns in siege

night radish
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Maybe im just bad lol

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But idt the r99 has any recoil lol

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Gun is a laser

frank compass
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havoc recoil is literally harder than most guns in siege, and the Havoc doesnt fucking move

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the r99 literally moves like Z

night radish
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Well

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I havent played in awhile

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Did it just change

frank compass
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Horizontal recoil is

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fucking dumb

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i dont think the r9 has changed in forever

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i just started playing apex again the end of last season

night radish
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Yeah then idk what youre talkin about lol

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I miss shots on apex chz muzzle flash and im bad

frank compass
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@vivid jolt horizontal recoil is shit, but buck barely has horizontal

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more guns need higher vertical and less rng horizontal

night radish
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And projectiles are fuckingggg stupid

frank compass
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if your reasoning is horizontal recoil = bad and therefore high recoil = bad in siege

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then I agree

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guns like the current F2 have dogshit recoil patterns

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but recoil is needed in low ttk games

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imo

night radish
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Themite has the worst recoil with prolonged holding of m1 than any other gun

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It uncontrollably bounces left and right

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Hibana’s gun’s four shot randomly kicks up and left every single time

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How the fuck

vivid jolt
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I think the vertical recoil is Siege is fine where it is now with the exclusion of some guns needing some obvious tweaks for it.

frank compass
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thermites is fine now, hibanas was better last patch but isnt really an issue (flash on both)

vivid jolt
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Recoil removes the aiming from the focus of the gunfight the higher it gets.

frank compass
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thermites actually used to be dogshit

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recoil is subconscious toast

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are you focusing on ur recoil control mid gunfight?

vivid jolt
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And if there's one thing Siege needs more of it's aiming.

frank compass
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i mean recoil wont affect that toast

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that's based on positioning, ttk, and gadgets

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and positioning is based on meta, maps, etc

vivid jolt
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Adding more recoil will make that even harder than it already is.

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No point.

frank compass
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the point is to widen the non existent skill gap

vivid jolt
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They can start with deleting a handful of ops and reworking the Matchmaking system first before they start considering tinkering with every weapon's mechanics to fix the skill gap.

night radish
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Does COD have gun skill gap

frank compass
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I agree Toast

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no it doesnt

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cod has no recoil and low ttk

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you can beam kids cross map in that game

night radish
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What fps have gun skill gaps

frank compass
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depends on what you consider a skill gap

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but afps games

noble belfry
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probably cs but it depends on if you mean gun specific or gun based skill gap

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but I'm an idiot so

night radish
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Cs/val is just knowing recoil patterns and the nuances of the game tho i thought

frank compass
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CS yes

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afps and BRs (brs to a lesser extent)

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because you need to learn several different types/classes of guns in order to play well at a high level

night radish
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Arena fps i always forget about

noble belfry
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one of the best genres traditionally at least

frank compass
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I mean

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2 traditional genres

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CS style and afps

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Errr

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I guess you could also say Boots on teh ground is traditional

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I wouldnt go as far to say tf2 is traditional tho

noble belfry
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I don't even really think boots on the ground is traditional, in comparison to the other two

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but I guess it is in comparison to the new wave of BR and hero shooters

frank compass
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I would agree

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thats why i didnt initially list it

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but technically CoD has been around for around the same amount of time

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or very close to

noble belfry
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first cod was 2003-4ish right? still abit newer then CS but I guess you are right

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Some people in this discord weren't even alive when cod released ppHands

frank compass
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end of 2003

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Doom/AFPS (Quake)
Half Life/CS

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old school FPS games

noble belfry
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Doom was the shit

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plays on anything

frank compass
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i need new color settings on my benq

noble belfry
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I need a new game to no life

frank compass
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Apex 🙂

noble belfry
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I played like pre season and I haven't touched it since

frank compass
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yes I did the same

noble belfry
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it was really fun back then but queing into idiots got me bummed

frank compass
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but apex gun play is

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quite goated

noble belfry
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Yeah its super nice

frank compass
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but Im biased since

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Titanfall is my favorite FPS

noble belfry
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and I love the movement too, wish it was a little more titantfall but

frank compass
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Apex actually has certain things titanfall doesnt

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but

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less air strafing

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and no wall running

noble belfry
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Less overall pace as well

frank compass
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well thats more due to meta

noble belfry
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but a BR wouldn't work with titanfalls speed

frank compass
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and style of game

noble belfry
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Yeah

frank compass
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I have like

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the perfect game envisioned in my head

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with Titanfall movement

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actually

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it's basically tf2

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with split bomb maps

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shit would be so fun

noble belfry
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Yeah

frank compass
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would prob play like old halo but with actually good movement

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🙂

noble belfry
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Yeah

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damn miss halo too

frank compass
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i do until I remember how shit the movement was

noble belfry
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If I played it again I'd probably think the same

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but at the time I had no issues

frank compass
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anyone else?

glad arch
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hi guys

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is the deluxe edition worth

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its $10

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or should i just get the standard

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$8

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wanted to ask here cuz idk shit abt this game

frank compass
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what is the difference?

noble belfry
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I mean all the operators can be farmed with ingame currency

frank compass
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can you paste the marketting promo for both?

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I mean it's $2 so depending on the diff it's prob worth it

noble belfry
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but I would get the deluxe just to get the y1 ops (I think thats the difference right?)

glad arch
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all 16 operators from year 1 and 2

noble belfry
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Oh shit and y2?

frank compass
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then get deluxe

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yea

noble belfry
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then yeah get the deluxe

frank compass
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most y1 and y2 ops are still meta or quite good

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so def worth

glad arch
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ok

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thx guys 🙂

noble belfry
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honestly I don't think I even have all y1 and y2 ops

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These classic matches are pretty good though aljo I've only been watching the penta one though

frank compass
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Buck, Valk, Cap, Echo, Hibana, Jackal, Mira, Lesion, Ying, Zofia, Vigil

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are all easy to pick up ops (more or less) and very good

noble belfry
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vigil is y3

frank compass
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no

noble belfry
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Oh sh.. thats where you was going

frank compass
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Vigil is Y2

noble belfry
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Shouldn't doki also be in that list?

frank compass
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dokks guns make her

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harder to pick up

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for ranked

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in low elo

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imo

astral dagger
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her gadget too

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not a lot of ppl

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can use the intel

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efficiently

frank compass
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Frost isnt good, BB is literally only for garbage players, Ela is really hit or miss due to recoil and lack of good range, Cav is dogshit, Dokk is good but easy to utilize poorly by new players and her guns are objectively worse most

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yea exactly hurlss

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i think its funny how Shas is playing instead of Joonas

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🙂

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although it makes me really sad

glad arch
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anything you guys would recommend working on first?

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or should i just start playing and learn that way

frank compass
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you can try thunt to get used to movement

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the game is mostly positioning and xhair placement tho

noble belfry
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read the guide in the pins if you'd like

frank compass
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so its really just play to improve

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^^^

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guide in pins would be good to check out

glad arch
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ok ok thx guys

astral dagger
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check ze heuristics

frank compass
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would heuristics be die, der, or das @astral dagger

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very important question!

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🙂

noble belfry
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f-german

frank compass
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wait fuhsz where are you from?

astral dagger
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Heuristik, die

frank compass
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damn hurls gave teh real answer

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I now have 2 people I can use for german homework next year PoggersScroll

noble belfry
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English originally but have lived in the netherlands for a few years now

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including some time right on the german border, that stuff is difficult

astral dagger
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damn hurls gave teh real answer
@frank compass well its just feeling

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just the article that sounds right

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i dont need to remeber grammar rules with languages i speak

noble belfry
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Damn ence kinda pog

astral dagger
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its just feeling

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even in english

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no idea how to explain that shit

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but i do it right

frank compass
astral dagger
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thats the adjective

noble belfry
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I think thats the feeling with most people with languages they know

astral dagger
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i said the noun

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aljo

frank compass
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ok

noble belfry
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its just when your learning it or reading it its trash

night radish
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Are yall still workin on that doc

astral dagger
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not atm

frank compass
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no

astral dagger
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since i stopped with siege

frank compass
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not personally

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I did the parts I felt comfortable doing

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but the other parts I could do I wouldnt be able to write coherently

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and I think they arent worth doing

astral dagger
frank compass
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indeed

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google translate do be kinda shit

astral dagger
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always used it for french

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lmao

vivid jolt
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I haven't checked our tips doc in a while because I didn't wanna just end up writing it all for myself. How many topics are still missing?

frank compass
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Peeking, Entry Fraggining, Support, Hard and Soft Breach, Grenades, Impact Tricking, Stances, Clutching (why is this a topic???), Spawn peeking (why is this a topic???), secondary gadgets,

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and drones is incomplete I think

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peeking should be something we cover, neither should the other two things I marked with ???

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secondary gadgets, entry frag/supprt, breaching, and grenades/impact tricking are all pretty advanced topics (or can be very advanced topic if covered in depth)

vivid jolt
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👌🏼

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EXDS's drone guide is still there. Free explanation to use for the drone section.

frank compass
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yea I saw it when i was just checking

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Im just very lazy

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despite being the one who asked for the guide to be made

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I honestly was thinking itd look something like the OW or Apex ones

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super fucking simple and easy to understand

coarse valeBOT
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GG @frank compass, you just advanced to level 41 !

frank compass
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instead it's that

noble belfry
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to be honest I appreciate the detail

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Just goes to show the siege community is high IQ

frank compass
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I do too, but I think it's intimidating

noble belfry
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which doesn't explain why most of us still play the game

frank compass
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I dont play the game anymore

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neither does hurls

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we are the highest of IQ individuals in here

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ez

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🙂

noble belfry
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I do thunt and thats it

frank compass
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I stopped even bothering to log on for thunts

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i played 3 ranked games the other day to get my friend his diamond

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then logged

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my first game on in amonth was literally vs Flynn, loading, and zilchy lul

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they brought monty 2/3 attack rounds 🙂

noble belfry
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jeeze

sly temple
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spawn peeking is dumb and should be removed

frank compass
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^

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at least in terms of the guide

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i agree

astral dagger
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I now have 2 people I can use for german homework next year :PoggersScroll:
@frank compass I have A's in german so ye

frank compass
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damn really?

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impressive

astral dagger
#

sarcastic ?

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lol

frank compass
#

is german like literature?

astral dagger
#

Someone wanna tell me why tech yes city did a Mousepad review on artisan pads with rocket jump ninja and said the shidenkia has the most control

night radish
#

Yeah i thought that was laughable too

#

Review was contradictory to hoya’s godlike sheet

#

BT and badseedtech also say contradictory things to hoya’s sheet

#

Is EXD’s drone guide thatgood

frank compass
#

because RJN and Tech City made a mistake

#

I think they corrected it

#

but I might be wrong

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I know all the comments were calling them idiots lmao

night radish
#

Why do people like the g sr se so much

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The initial static sucks

frank compass
#

because the less mouse control you have, the better control pads are

astral dagger
#

zero is perfect mousepad

#

low static friction

#

fast but not to fast

#

and good stopping power

#

can't go wrong

night radish
#

My mouse control became infinitely better w hien mid

#

Why am i weird aljo

#

Why

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I was way more jittery and shaky w inked gaming pad and stuff like that

#

That pad is great btw just too slow for me now

frank compass
#

Idk but im excited to get my hien mid

astral dagger
#

is german like literature?
@frank compass with my form of education

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yes

frank compass
#

Ah

astral dagger
#

we have like

#

dif type of schools in germany

surreal cosmos
#

s-mousepad

woven tundraBOT
astral dagger
#

@frank compass why mid and not soft?

#

tbh

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getting A's in german

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is so easy

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i literally do 0

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but on the other hand i have a lot of interest in language

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i used to read a ton

frank compass
#

i have a soft @astral dagger

noble belfry
#

hes just after more

frank compass
#

Remorce sent me his mid

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because I traded him something for it

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since he uses his Zero Soft or xsoft and didnt like his hien

noble belfry
#

what did you trade 👀

surreal cosmos
#

trying to get new mousepad - why is dechanic control FASTER than dechanic speed

noble belfry
#

tends to happen

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I think companies just use a different weave that the suspect will be slower and call it control, but it ends up being faster

frank compass
#

bad naming convention @surreal cosmos

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thats all

surreal cosmos
#

well if speed is slower ill get dechanic speed

frank compass
#

@noble belfry I traded something that may or may not have been a Ubisoft account that was >level 30

surreal cosmos
#

damn i loved my mp510... but gpw LOD issues

frank compass
#

just buy a GSR

#

if you want a control pad

#

or an InkedGaming pad

astral dagger
#

@frank compass ah that's fair

#

lmk how the mid is \

noble belfry
#

ahh

surreal cosmos
#

no gsr on amazon, lmao. i was thinking x ray aqua control +

astral dagger
#

@surreal cosmos ye u was gonna get that if i idnt get my zero

surreal cosmos
#

alright, thanks gunna grab that!

surreal cosmos
#

Woah - xraypad shipping is 50$

noble belfry
#

not worth it then imo

surreal cosmos
#

yep

noble belfry
#

You'd be better serviced getting a G-SR-SE or inked if you have to pay that much

surreal cosmos
#

exactly.

#

glorius xl heavy?

noble belfry
#

I wouldn't

#

Its very muddy apparently

worn wagon
#

I dont play the game anymore
I don't either. I just watch VODs.

surreal cosmos
#

lmao. my mousepad search is going no where.

glad arch
#

Sparky pad

surreal cosmos
#

sigh Dechanic Speed then.

noble belfry
#

Why not just get a hyperx Fury-s?

#

s-mousepad

woven tundraBOT
hollow yarrow
#

Anyone recommend any click timing scenarios for siege I normally play for like a hour a day and I switched to a new routine 3 - 4 weeks ago I don’t feel like I improved idk if it’s my posture because I do tend to play in a different posture everytime

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I just need 6 routines that I can play for 10 minutes, I used sparks guide and some scenarios to replace cuz I’m mainly looking to get better with flicking

noble belfry
#

Pasu small reload I think is pretty good, same as floating heads timing 400%/wide wall 10 extra small for precision

night radish
#

@astral dagger the mid is hot fire

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I love if

#

It

hollow yarrow
#

@noble belfry I did 1wall6targets te, pokeball frenzy auto te wide, pat target switch 90 easy, 1wall 2targets, reflex flick - easy, 1w2tws

noble belfry
#

@hollow yarrow If you check the pins and use the calc you can get your siege sens for each scope by the way and then input that value straight into the kovaaks scale

hollow yarrow
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I have it set to reflex and holo then I input my sens into the jscalc calculator

noble belfry
#

I think 1w6te is pretty useless, pokeball is good, never done that patts I tend to prefer small but I guess it depends on your own skill level

hollow yarrow
#

I was talking to one of the staff memebers and they said 1wall 6targets is a good scenario and plus it was on sparkys guide soo idk?

#

@noble belfry are you able to show me the sens thing on a discord call?

#

I can screen share what im looking at

noble belfry
#

6 targets is good but I find te isn't very, but as I said it does depend on your skill level a bit if you struggle hitting small/extra small targets then I understand it could be more beneficial

hollow yarrow
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I also do both btw sorry forgot to include

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@noble belfry just added you

timid mist
#

could u guys give some more suggestions for good r6 scenarios

#

pls :>

astral dagger
#

pins ?

sly temple
#

THESE FRICKS NEVER CHECK PINS!

#

gonna get the glizzy on em

vivid jolt
#

Always down to edit the pins as well.

#

If you all agree on another scenario to add...

frank compass
#

you should put suggested sens to use with each scen

#

like hipfire/mean for vox and ads for dev, ads for clicking, and maybe add some smoothness tracking for hipfire training

#

just a suggestion

vivid jolt
#

I only recommend one sensitivity for kovaak's, and that's your 1x ADS.

frank compass
#

why tho

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hipfire for tracking, mean for ts, and 1x ads for clicking is much better

#

you also run 1:1 so like

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your opinion is skewed

#

also not everyone aims solely with their ads, there are essentially 2 aim styles in siege

vivid jolt
#

You don't need to be accurate while hipfiring, that's what your ADS sens is for- adjusting accurately. Your ACOG not only is a pain to use in Kovaak's but irrelevant because in game it replicates the 1x visuomotor sensitivity based on the FOV decrease.

frank compass
#

idk thats just my input

vivid jolt
#

So 1x is the only thing worth practicing for a specific game.

frank compass
#

I disagree

vivid jolt
#

You don't track while hipfiring. You track while shooting.

coarse valeBOT
#

GG @vivid jolt, you just advanced to level 51 !

vivid jolt
#

@coarse vale Eat dirt.

frank compass
#

its still good for training overall smoothness tho

#

which is something most siege players heavily lack

vivid jolt
#

Most Siege players need to learn to get good at aiming straight first.

frank compass
#

I mean yes and no

#

most high level siege players will have at least diamond clicking on static dots

#

except me

#

because I suck at static dots

#

but I also am a player who primarily aims with hip rather than scoped sensitivity

sly temple
#

i dont think there is any point in practicing acog sens

vivid jolt
#

Target Acquisition and precision "aim" are entirely separate entities.

frank compass
#

Im not saying they are the same?

#

I agree @sly temple

vivid jolt
#

who primarily aims with hip rather than scoped

frank compass
#

Yes

#

?

vivid jolt
#

You target acquire when in hip. You don't even have a reticle when un-ADS'ed.

frank compass
#

You have your hipfire xhair

vivid jolt
#

You "precision aim" (for lack of a better term) when ADS'ed.

frank compass
#

Toast

#

I think you

#

Are attributing that your aim style

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Is the only aim style

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And thats why you dont understand

sly temple
#

dis man aims at heads with his MF hipfire crosshair

vivid jolt
#

No, I'm attributing the fact that nobody perfectly "aims" while in hipfire otherwise we wouldn't have slower ADS sensitivities. If people were so good at lining up headshots while hipfiring, people would just scope in for one shot, hit the head, and move on.

#

But that's not how that works.

frank compass
#

Hey toast just curious

vivid jolt
#

The real skill of fine aiming is done ADS'ed. Which is where all the practice comes into play.

frank compass
#

why do quake pros use zoom sens on rail depending on range?

#

are you telling me that they arent using fine aiming when they arent zooming?

#

or how about why do most apex players hip fire rather than ads with smg/ar depending on range of engagement ?

#

just because ads is your precision aiming doesnt mean it is the only sens worth training

vivid jolt
#

Your logic doesn't add when there are two separate aiming styled games with different sensitivity ranges, angle differences, and otherworldly time to kills.

frank compass
#

and the fact that you run 1:1 instead of visumotor further devalues the argument

vivid jolt
#

I get your point in the comparison but it doesn't correlate to Siege.

frank compass
#

it does tho lmao

#

why would you use 1:1 if the point of ads is for precision ?

#

your opinion on what sensitivities are worth training is biased based on the fact you use 1:1

vivid jolt
#

Again, irrelevant. Because I can be precise on 46cm and it doesn't hinder my movement.

frank compass
#

I can be precise on 30

#

lmao

vivid jolt
#

That's cool but I didn't ask.

frank compass
#

but thats the entire point of this discussion?

#

your ads isnt the only sens worth training for siege

vivid jolt
#

The point was that your hip and ADS are two separate sensitivities and only one of which are you aiming for the head pixel by pixel. So you should train that one, since the other is not used for accurate shooting, thus does not need accuracy training and is a waste of time in comparison to practice it in kovaaks.

#

Not how fast your sens was.

frank compass
#

most target switching is not about accuracy

#

and adding tracking scenarios would be beneficial for most siege players and you dont require precision for them either

#

???????

vivid jolt
#

All aiming ever is exclusively about accuracy?

#

Period.

frank compass
#

if that is the case then why can someone have a lower acc% and a higher score on clicking scens with an acc multiplier?

#

Your argument is fundamentally flawed

vivid jolt
#

Because it counts how many targets were killed to score it. Why the hell are you bringing how Kovaak scenarios do scoring in a conversation about practical application. There are always no matter what only 5 targets on the map every single round.

#

It doesn't matter how many headshots you hit in a round or how fast you do it. It matters only IF you HIT the HEAD accurately.

frank compass
#

because the argument that accuracy is the only important factor of aiming is wrong

#

???

vivid jolt
#

No.

#

And that's not a debate.

#

I'm out here.

frank compass
#

because if any part of your argument contains the phrase that "siege players need to learn in the first place." neglecting any form of smoothness/tracking and only focusing on static targets and slow targetswitch, they will eventually hit a wall and cease to improve in any way

mental snow
#

i agree with toast

vivid jolt
#

Never said neglect anything. Always said practice every style. Accuracy is the goal of every aim style.

mental snow
#

only thing you should be training practically in kovaaks for siege is you 1x ads sens

#

everything else will give you diminishing returns

#

if anything other than a slight benefit if at all

frank compass
#

I still believe it is worth training mean and hip for siege.

#

I would only use ads for clicking, but if you are also going to do target switching and any amount of tracking (which I think is beneficial)

#

it is worth training the other sensitivities as well

mental snow
#

imo if u want to improve your hip aim its more beneficial to just do it in thunt, since better crosshair placement is more important when aiming from the hip than your actual hip aim

#

tracking with hip is also irrelevant

#

even clearing angles and going around corners should be done while ads'd so why not train tracking/target switching with your 1x?

#

the level of precision you need from your hip is just not nearly as demanding as your ads, which is why most pros play around 30-40 hip and 40-70+ ads

frank compass
#

I think how you clear corners is heavily dependent on the gun you are using

#

but clearly my opinion seems to be minority on this and I dont really feel like debating it further because i foresee mostly talking in circles/repeating prior points

#

so i guess you get this one Toast

#

🙂

normal bloom
#

why do you train hip? makes sense for mouse control since it requires more physical precision

frank compass
#

yes

#

that is mostly my reasoning

#

put in a much more coherent manner

glad arch
#

welp

#

just played hibana first time

#

didnt know how to activate my shuriken things

#

LOL

sly temple
#

seems like a u problem

vivid jolt
#

It's okay. Now Ace does it for you.

#

And everything else, too.

sly temple
#

relationship ended with hibana now BFFs with Ace

frank compass
#

You press the button again @glad arch

#

Ace needs a timing nerf so u can bandit trick

#

Err honestly maybe not

#

He genuinely seems pretty ok

#

But i need to see more of him

#

Melusi bigger issue on ts

glad arch
#

yeah

#

i just found it out

#

man

#

i was so confused

surreal cosmos
#

yeah i remember 2 years ago, i was like wtf

#

i searched online and stuff

#

and i pressed every button on my keyboard

glad arch
#

LOL

#

my brotha

frank compass
#

pain

#

ah cool discord works now

vivid jolt
frank compass
#

LOL

#

that's actually amazing

astral dagger
#

Is oryx good now?

frank compass
#

no

#

he hasnt been changed

#

or at least I havent seen anything abt him being changed

raw fox
#

PH premium is no joke

#

now that they got twiizt

astral dagger
#

@frank compass there was some stuff in the patch notes

#

less dmg when dashing through walls etc

#

doesn't make him useful tho

warm girder
#

he has angle grip

#

i think it's a good improvement

#

can run through twice the no. walls, better gun

#

probs not that viable still

vivid jolt
#

Link don't work homes.

lime wyvern
#

Alright I'm about to make a reddit just for this

lime wyvern
astral dagger
#

you miss 31st bullet

#

then you are only on taget for the no 30

#

that one

#

is either low neck

#

or shit limb penetration

#

Thats what i would guess

night radish
#

Yo anyone have the link to the match replay post

astral dagger
#

1 bullet is a miss

night radish
#

The last one is nasty

mortal notch
#

because the less mouse control you have, the better control pads are
@frank compass Can you elaborate on this?

night radish
#

Control pads make it take more effort to move your mouse

#

Therefore requiring less precise mouse control

#

Aka control pads are slower so theyre more forgiving

#

If you dont have mouse control and you’re using a fast pad, you will overshoot/over correct/over compensate because you dont have the necessary control

mortal notch
#

oh

#

is that something i should worry about

#

i dont know how good my mouse control is. im moving from qck to hien soft

night radish
#

Nah dont worry about it

#

If you feel you cant control your mouse as well though, either lower your sens or switch to a slower pad

#

Or train your mouse control

#

Aka tracking/smoothness training

mortal notch
#

Speaking of mousepads, my g403 has been having tracking issues on my qck

#

for the past 3 weeks. Im pretty sure its my mousepad which is at fault, not the mouse, becuase it happens at certain areas of the mousepad

#

it just kind of like jitters, and sometimes stops

#

so atm im using my old microsoft basic mouse 3 becuase its sensor is too garbo to detect that the mousepad is messed up

coarse valeBOT
#

GG @mortal notch, you just advanced to level 1 !

mortal notch
#

any idea why this is happening?

night radish
#

Have you cleaned it?

#

Could be mouse LOD issues

#

I really dont know though

mortal notch
#

ive cleaned it maybe 4 times since it started happening

#

cleaning the pad gives me ~2 days of it being usable before it starts messing up again

#

and LOD?

night radish
#

Lift off distance

mortal notch
#

I might be inclined to accept that as an option, but it wouldnt explain why cleaning fixes it

night radish
#

Yeah i couldnt tell you tbh

mortal notch
#

i guess ill find out if it was pad or mouse that was the problem when the hein arrives

surreal cosmos
#

@mortal notch Yo I have almost the same problem. My GPW suddenly starts having tracking issues on my MP510. It is the mousepad at fault for sure. My GPW also jitters and stops too.
I tried cleaning the sensor and it did nothing.
Cleaning the mousepad did little for me as well.

#

rn i fixed it by turning the mp510 vertically instead of hoz...

#

Did you

  1. change your mousefeet 3 weeks ago?
  2. do you use the g hub gaming software?
    maybe we can find the problem together
mortal notch
#

Ive been using hyperglide mousefeet for >1year

#

I use g hub yes

#

I dont have another mousepad in the home to test on, so i cant say yet

#

I could try uninstalling g hub but i would lose my settings

surreal cosmos
#

it is the mousepad.

#

u didnt change mousefeet?

#

i changed mine to tiger arc and right after i get the issue

#

so i guess it isnt mousefeet. maybe g hub software got update or something and messed it up?

mortal notch
#

Not got another pc to be able to plug mouse into and play games on and see. only laptops

surreal cosmos
#

trying rotating ur mousepad 90°, thats what im doing rn

mortal notch
#

my mousepad has x/y sensitivity difference

#

so id rather not really

surreal cosmos
#

same with my mp510, but it worked for me lol

astral dagger
#

@surreal cosmos the GPW is a QC mess

surreal cosmos
#

hold up let me get my g403

astral dagger
#

if you havent realized yet

mortal notch
#

qc?

astral dagger
#

quality control

surreal cosmos
#

ik it is

#

^

#

but i got my gpw for a steal

#

all my csgo skins which i dont play for used gpw lol 3>

mortal notch
#

i play at platinum 2 level in siege, so i cant just flip my sensitivity and hope to do well

#

ill just wait for the new pad

surreal cosmos
#

yeah im plat 3-2, i just quit siege after it started suttering

#

ayyy i got new pad, what did u get?

mortal notch
#

artisan hien. its passed customs now so im hoping it will come tomorrow

surreal cosmos
#

but imo its weird for 2 different mouse and 2 different mousepads to have that issue at a relatively close timeframe

mortal notch
#

currently in delivery office

surreal cosmos
#

i thought artisan isnt shipping?

mortal notch
#

third party from japanese amazon

surreal cosmos
#

o

#

alright testing my g403

#

wireless or wired? my wireless g403 has no issues rn... weird

coarse valeBOT
#

GG @mortal notch, you just advanced to level 2 !

mortal notch
#

wired.

surreal cosmos
#

yeah ok my GPW has issues still but my g403 is ok

#

plugged my gpw reciever to different port and still same issue, so its not the software i guess

astral dagger
surreal cosmos
#

saw that lol

astral dagger
#

More tech talk goes on in here than the tech channel

vivid jolt
#

Well peripherals are often dependent to the game. With a game like this where 1 bullet is all that counts, every little difference makes the advantage.

#

It's unsurprising people would rather talk about peripherals specific to their game rather than in a general setting.

astral dagger
vivid jolt
#

I need that.

night radish
#

Abahaha

astral dagger
#

ahahahah

#

i want that

#

too

vivid jolt
frank compass
#

LOL

#

I did Club, Theme, Club the other day

#

to get a friend diamond

#

that was

#

fun

#

except for the fact I played Flynn, Loading, zilchy stack

#

and they ran monty every round

#

🙂

noble belfry
#

having huge deja vu

granite ivy
#

Just wondering, what kind of sens are you guys on? Because I find that my Siege 1x sens is ridiculously low and unusable for the benchmarks

#

I’m on 5-5-60 @ 883 DPI (my FM is 10% off its nominal DPI lmao)

raw fox
#

41/41/80 800dpi, .00233 mult regular x factor

granite ivy
#

At 50cm/360 it seems impossible to be decent a tracking, I’ve used my hipfire and it worked better at least on CFSEI

#

Let me convert that real quick to see lol

#

Your hipfire is a tad lower

raw fox
#

ill be honest with you, you can train any sens you want in kovaaks and you will still feel comfy ingame so long as the sens in kovaaks isnt extremely diff from ur r6 1x/hip

#

like ill play 27 cm and ill be whippin across the city on 41cm comfortably

granite ivy
#

Gotcha, that’s nice to know cause I’ve used 30cm and it works a lot better for these kind of scenarios

#

Thanks

raw fox
#

sometimes ill throw in the ol' 80 cm ads to see how good my arm aim is

granite ivy
#

ACOG sens is kinda nuts lmao

coarse valeBOT
#

GG @granite ivy, you just advanced to level 1 !

vivid jolt
#

You mean shoulder aim?

raw fox
#

hand throw aim

#

train punches while u vaak'

vivid jolt
#

Vertical Fast Strafes on 100cm.

granite ivy
#

Wait, I just realized that you're GM buck

#

Would you say the benchmarks have helped your siege aim?

surreal cosmos
#

bet hell say 'kovaaks is for mouse control'

#

idk

raw fox
#

i would say it has. fwiw i started my grind when apex came out and my tracking was FUCKING awful. being able to adapt some of that into siege was seamless after some sensitivity adjustments. I was one of the first supporters to push for tracking training for r6 since r6 players generally cant react to c4's flying over walls or adjusting to track targets when they whiffed their first few bullets

frank compass
#

buck did you see the discussion between me and toast yesterday?

raw fox
#

i did and i was was so out of it bc of finals that i forgot about it

#

doesnt fucking matter what sens u use as long as it aint extremely faster/slower than your r6 sens

frank compass
#

I was just

#

curious

#

🙂

raw fox
#

both of you have valid points

frank compass
#

Also Buck

#

I am OTP Wattson main now

raw fox
#

thats fine

#

i needed shields anyway

frank compass
#

also eva / r3

#

very good

raw fox
#

yes, but i like eva/99

frank compass
#

ive heard flatline also good

raw fox
#

becuase i swing harder mike tyson at 54 years

#

it is

frank compass
#

but cba to try out flatline

raw fox
#

granted you actually dont whiff

frank compass
#

cause r3 very solid

raw fox
#

i use what i feel for the day so i perform at peak all day

frank compass
#

flatline's rof compared to it's minimally more damage makes me hesitant to try

raw fox
#

all you gotta do is position urself to where you can shoot them in the back of the head

#

40 dmg headies are 5 shot kills

#

on lvl 3's

#

also we can que today since im done with finals

frank compass
#

wait is it 40 damage hs for flatline? thought it was like 34

#

compared to r3's 28

raw fox
#

i think it was 40 on no helm light chars

frank compass
#

o

#

i want to get good with scout but my ability to lead targets is ass

raw fox
#

everygun is good if you can move faster then they do

#

fuck a scout

frank compass
#

scout good

#

lots of easy damage for charging evos

raw fox
#

it will never be a part of my kit so long as i start swingin

frank compass
#

also good for stacking attachments for r3

raw fox
#

so is the 99

#

and the alternator

frank compass
#

these are both true

raw fox
#

ill just prowler all day if i wanted a 14 dmg gun

frank compass
#

prowler w select good

raw fox
#

better mag and mobility and sights on it

#

for my playstyle at least

#

my buddy does all the poking with g7s/longbois/triple takes so all i gotta do is swing

frank compass
#

i fence, drop gen, fence more, then poke

#

most of the time

#

so i usually just give r9 away

raw fox
#

all u need is a taxi char, poker/hunker, and an entry char

frank compass
#

I need to get faster at my fencing tho, tile frenzy might genuinely be a decent scen for me to run

raw fox
#

i play 2 roles in one with lifeline so no one can call me dogshit

frank compass
#

Wraith, Wattson, Caustic goated lineup rn

raw fox
#

tile 180 is what u want

frank compass
#

and by goated I mean broken

#

Caustic actually the bane of my existence

raw fox
#

you can always poke the fat bitch til he dead bc of the massive hitbox

frank compass
#

yes but

raw fox
#

also thats why i avoid bunker

frank compass
#

pushing smoke

#

aids

#

and can res in smoke with gold bag

#

dumb

raw fox
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beam 99 with digi threats out side the smoke cuse he cant see 5m past his smoke

frank compass
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how to win with caustic:

live to 6-8 circle
toss ult into circle
team fight in circle while taking 0 damage

mortal notch
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what are some tracking scenarios for siege?

raw fox
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Sparky Siege Community's Preferred Scenarios for Siege: [WIP]

  • 1wall6targets
  • 1wall6targets small
  • 1wall5targets_pasu reload
  • 1wall5targets_pasu track
  • Close Long Strafes Invincible
  • Thin Aiming Long Invincible
  • Reflex Flick - Fair
  • VoxTargetSwitch
  • PatTargetSwitch
  • Microshot Speed
  • Microshot Flick
  • 1wall2targets reload
  • DevTargetSwitch Goated
  • TargetAcquisitionFlick
  • Pressure Aiming - 10 Targets
  • 1wall6flick
    this is in the pins fyi
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clsi and thin aiming seem to be a staple for r6 but throw in fuglaa b180 if you hate c4s

vivid jolt
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Pasu Track underrated for Siege heads.

frank compass
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pasu track, tali, clsi good for siege

cerulean quest
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I have been playing out of my mind the past week or two and dropping 10+ kills most ranked games up until a few days ago when literally overnight it now feels like all of my guns do no damage, but in thunt my aim feels normal and I have no idea what to do

coarse valeBOT
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GG @cerulean quest, you just advanced to level 4 !

astral dagger
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take a break

cerulean quest
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I might have to bro, my mate just bought a modded mc server, how long should I take a break for?

astral dagger
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whatever

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just a bit

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do smth else

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few days

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a week

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idk

cerulean quest
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Cheers g

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Should I still play kovaaks or Na?

astral dagger
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depends

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if you also dont feel like playing it

cerulean quest
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I mean I’m all down for kovaaks I was banging out high scores n then hopping on and my guns felt like shit

astral dagger
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Should be getting my Z1 hyperglides tomorrow can’t wait put them on model o

astral dagger
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test server a bit broken

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i got dashed by oryx and screen went black

worn wagon
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Seen someone complain about black screens with zofia and ela stuns as well

astral dagger
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i heard that zofias gun has no recoil

worn wagon
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Some people can control it into a laser when focusing on it

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Probs won't find a clip now, but saw it multiple times w/ angled grip

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But if you are talking about TS changes idk

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Not playing siege rn

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Endless loop, I am bad since I don't play and I don't want to play cuz I am bad

surreal cosmos
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whats the deal about get flanked?

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a lot of ppl are like

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well i agree, watching his videos he looks like a fucking bot... in one of his videos he says hes plat? or is he just smurfing in bronze or smth

worn wagon
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A. Since when is plat a high rank?
B. He's a casual doing videos for casual audience and that's obvious IMO
C. He only reached plat a couple seasons ago, before that he was giving silver to gold advice

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Tbh, there is little to no high level content in siege (Or I haven't been able to find it)

astral dagger
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so anything with pasu in it is good for siege?

worn wagon
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I am not the person to ask

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But that is probably not the best criteria since any1 can create a scenario and name it pasu

astral dagger
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i mean like

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actually

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idk

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:/

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hes got a point

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for me at least

worn wagon
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Toast isn't any1. He's actually somewhat good

frank compass
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Well toast is a no name gold who happens to understand aim theory and be good at clicking static dots

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🙂

static sentinel
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Yoooooo

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Exodus

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Holy shit

raw fox
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i connect bots

static sentinel
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Long time no see

static sentinel
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Siegeception

night radish
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Thats bananananananas

pallid bough
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^ ranked in a nutshell lmao

cerulean quest
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@worn wagon wait did they buff zofia recoil or is it a bug?

frank compass
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what recoil?

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@astral dagger hes just better

cerulean quest
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i heard that zofias gun has no recoil
@astral dagger

frank compass
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it doesnt have recoil lmao

cerulean quest
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Now or after patch?

astral dagger
cerulean quest
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Rn twitches gun feels nicer to control than zofias for some reason lmao

astral dagger
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@astral dagger new vid is insane btw

noble belfry
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new minitage

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insane

astral dagger
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actually nuts

sly temple
normal bloom
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nice vid mini but where tha 60fps tho

astral dagger
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it is 60 fps

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idk why is like this