nooooooooo
#siege
surreal cosmos
frank compass
@surreal cosmos are you on 1920x1080 (or whatever ur monitor's native res is)?
tepid cosmos
frank compass
yea
it's because the game doesnt like
resize shit
it just stretches
scaling
thats the word I was looking for
vivid jolt
A standard reminder that Nokk could've been not absolute garbage.
https://twitter.com/Zedd_GHOSTBLADE/status/1259969932038737920?s=20
vivid jolt
How they haven't buffed her with a new gun is beyond me.
I swear it's because of the fact that she has a tAcTiCoOL animation that they don't want to go to waste.
vivid jolt
#ToastofWar2024
mental snow
give nokk aug acog supressor
mental snow
Iq's
frank compass
id like to see her with kaid's tbh
if they wanna keep her as an smg op
also itd give me a reason to use my alpha pack skin
warm girder
aug kinda chunky for nokk to be running around 1 handed with it
frank compass
i mean
also viable
but doesnt fit the nationality
and also doesnt fit the character design
I think there is a season op soon who gets the AK tho
if im not mistaken
astral dagger
Well the Danish army uses the m4 and the m9
frank compass
M4 on Nokk
astral dagger
So her load out is already unrealistic
frank compass
5.7 very common weapon
idk what the fmg is in real world
nvm
its literally
fmg
astral dagger
I want the blood orchid seasonal skins so bad 
astral dagger
My friend has all of them + glacier on his smurf
I might buy or ask for his account and make it my main
frank compass
LOL
vivid jolt
I'd love if they gave Nokk the AUG/552.
That'd be so nice.
Just don't give her the AUG without lowering the weapon profile.
Because that's ridiculous that it's still a problem.
vivid jolt
AR33?
Actually no, please don't give her the AUG. That'd be awful. Fast TTK on low armors, super long TTK on 3 armor anchors which were hurt her getting into site. Inconsistent weapon.
Give her the 552.
frank compass
aug a3
32 bullets
decent rof
smg ads speed
i dont want another op w/ 552/6
gun is so boring
vivid jolt
The AUG A3 is worse than the FMG.
frank compass
false
vivid jolt
Dog I know Siege numbers like the back of my hand. It's worse.
A3: 2/3TTK 257 @700rpm
FMG: 2/3TTK 225 @800rpm
vivid jolt
Let me open it.
frank compass
go get r9's
spreadsheet
fmg has better ttk against 2 armors
aug has better ttk against 1 and 3 armors
vivid jolt
Dude.
vivid jolt
Nokk doesn't roam clear, why in the world would she need a gun good against 1 armors?
frank compass
because that is half of roamers
vivid jolt
She infiltrates the site and flanks.
vivid jolt
?!?
frank compass
because half the meta anchors in the game
are 3 armors?
because 99% of teams anchor with a Smoke/Maestro or Goyo/Maestro right now
Literally you will almost always fight 1 3 armor and 1 2 armor as anchor
vivid jolt
I'm so lost what you're saying.
How is a gun that is better at killing roamers and worse at killing anchors better for Nokk?
surreal cosmos
aug better for 3 armor
frank compass
its a 4 stk vs 3 armors and the same stk vs 2 armors
toast are you illiterate ?
and 25ms is
unnoticeable
the fmg is 4stk v 2ar, and 5stk v 3 ar
which
is
noticeable
when the rofs are that as close
as they are
frank compass
no
vivid jolt
TTKS
vivid jolt
Swear to God above I'm looking at the sheet and it says 225.
On 3 armors.
And 2 armors.
frank compass
Did they change the fmg in the past 2 months?
because if they didnt
we're looking at the same sheet
if they did
my sheet is wrong
But the last time I remember the fmg changing
was the damage buff in Shifting Tides
regardless
we've established
the a3 is not really a buff
which
tbh
it was
worse statistically than I remember
vivid jolt
frank compass
I still maintain
itd be a better weapon
if you wanted nokk to be a comp op
she would be roam clearing
90% of the time
because she doesnt fill an ulterior role
she has nades and a gadget that lets her evade defender information
solo pushing a site to try and get a pick on an anchor is not a trustworthy use of an op, esp when theyre carrying ur set of nades
since youll need that to clear utility
desert moth
WGE4-AD6G-PUTA-36EB
heres a free activation key for europe
didnt read the fucking region
its r6 for uplay
frank compass
unlucky
@vivid jolt give her pdw 🙂
it isnt a statistical buff
but it does have acog and 50 bullets
also give amaru nades instead of claymore and a Mikasa elite skin
vivid jolt
Or just... an Assault Rifle because that's how the fundamental basics of the game were designed. Offense has superior firepower while defense has superior map control.
vivid jolt
Don't know why they suddenly changed that philosophy for that one character.
frank compass
I mean
I think theyre just trying to experiment
like Warden has
one of the worst loadouts in history
that really doesnt fit the way his playstyle works
Phantom Sight kinda just felt like a season where
they were late to the party
so they just decided to recycle shit
and see how people would react
vivid jolt
GIVE WARDEN THE AK-12 + NADES. AND A DEAGLE. AND 3 SPEED.
frank compass
Nokk was designed to counter defense intel meta from parabellum and warden was designed to counter glaz meta that was basically the entirety of Y2 and wouldve lasted into Y3 if Lion hadnt been a thing
and both those ops were released in the second season of Y4
like they were just late
so the ops serve no purpose now
because the metas they were SPECIFICALLY designed to counter dont exist anymore
mental snow
nokks weapons would have to be crazy strong for her to be an entry op, otherwise she will never be anything other than a 6th pick with a laxing type role/player where they lurk around the map trying to sneak in the gaps of the defence or catch roamers off guard
frank compass
mhmmm
but for her to be actually viable
she needs to be able to function as an entry op
or at least a secondary entry
but she loses most straightup gunfights against roamers
*statistically
mental snow
i disagree, why change an op designed for lurking to be put into an entry type role just by forcing her into it with stronger weapons?
doesnt make any sense
mental snow
because ubisoft balancing team is lazy and retarded
frank compass
yes
but also because in the current meta, it's the only possible way she fills any role on a team
you can lurk just as efficiently with other ops and still bring more utility to the table
*depending on map
mental snow
which is why she will never be consistently competitively viable as an operator, unless she has r4c acog people wouldnt entry with her
her kit makes no sense for an entry type role
nades even less so
you want your nades for the execute or to pick off anchors in hard to reach spots
thats why nobody primary entries with buck/sledge except rask and thats a comfort pick for him
frank compass
you used to be able to
on most maps
but you cant anymore
because nades are too important to have mid-late round
astral dagger
I would pick sledge but I'm bad with the l85
So I only play buck
Nades are gone now
So I'm Ash main
frank compass
LOL
inland lark
Do you guys have the wrist touching the mousepad while gripping your mice?
frank compass
my entire arm does
frank compass
those are both terrible options
desert moth
hot dog gorilla cheese
vivid jolt
Your whole arm should be touching the desk to provide the largest anchor point possible.
normal bloom
vivid jolt
Siege EU friendos, which is better for solo queueing, neu or weu?
lime wyvern
very old clip
vivid jolt
Nevermind. Apparently for some reason it's impossible to change data centers now.
lime wyvern
did you type neu/weu or northeurope/westeurope?
vivid jolt
Fuckin' have to type the whole continental title out now, that's cool.
I missed that memo.
lime wyvern
ye
vivid jolt
I won't hear it.
EU pros can have it all day, but EU ranked players are so many leagues worse than NA ranked players.
I won't hear it I won't hear it I won't hear it. They're worse.
worn wagon
My experience for late night: weu is faster quetimes and facing CL Qual Playoffs monkeys and Russian comp fivestacks, so mostly good interesting games. Neu is just lame games and long queue times.
vivid jolt
Understandable.
worn wagon
Not only EU T1 is superior, but also T2 and T3 xd
vivid jolt
Comp, absolutely I won't debate. But plats and below are just on controller in comparison. I don't get it.
Coastline, Chalet, Chalet, Outback.
This is good experience.
astral dagger
ahahah
vivid jolt
astral dagger
play with @astral dagger you get decent maps
worn wagon
Outback is a decent map
astral dagger
for half of the game, yes
worn wagon
???
warm girder
I mean outback could be decent on atk side
it's just it never ended up in PL so nobody gives a shit
therefore nobody has good attacks for it
astral dagger
problem is most sites have a perfect crossfire at every entry for the defenders to hold
and with 4 staircases to flank from its hard for flank watch to get a hold of roamers
i actually like attacking party
depends
pushing towards bull and party from shark feels shitty tbh
and garage side is also almost completely hard
astral dagger
noble belfry
wow
astral dagger
^^^^
night radish
What the fuck
astral dagger
the literal state of community managers for r6 esport
mdr
mini
accept it
you are wrong
cant argue with the true siege fans
inland lark
They seem proud to have bugs in a game
They be like hey other games have bugs
Our game has more, so i guess its going in the right direction
astral dagger
thats the issue
those retards
are the ppl
ubi caters too
they just circle jerk around and worship their favorite game
and if anyone critiques it thats how they answer lol
inland lark
More bugs = correct direction ez
astral dagger
like they act like mini is hating on the game, he prob is more dedicated to it than most ppl he just sees the issues and wants them to be changed
inland lark
Thats how it is
astral dagger
istead of worshipping it
inland lark
Very sad
astral dagger
literally none of them see the issue with what mini says
inland lark
😮 what happened
astral dagger
all they do is find excuses and say: " but other games..."
inland lark
ye
astral dagger
@inland lark worst fucking event we had in a long happened
inland lark
i rather have golden gun
inland lark
llol
astral dagger
you eu or na ?
inland lark
apac
astral dagger
7 i think
warm girder
it's totally different to anything thats been in the game
astral dagger
and i quit that after i saw that ela and ying are in
astral dagger
ye that is cool
im just angry meastro doesnt get the auto shotty
but it got boring real fast
warm girder
it's probs infuriating solo
warm girder
but duo or trio que we just clap cheeks
astral dagger
the moment when you shoot someone and you dont 1 hit him but he blasts you
is just
ive got no friends 
meh
inland lark
i just suicide from top to bottom of the building somehow
coarse valeBOT
GG @astral dagger, you just advanced to level 42 !
astral dagger
!rank
coarse valeBOT
inland lark
nice
frank compass
nice
inland lark
looks like a rectangular dick tbh
inland lark
stupidity is the ultimate form of intelligence
frank compass
I love this image
for so many reasons
but the 'quote' is applicable to this topic
inland lark
Hhh
astral dagger
this is my man https://prnt.sc/sfhkd1
@astral dagger sorry for @ but you rate corepads over arc2 and hyperglides right?
night radish
Fairly certain i saw people saying Arc2 are best
night radish
Loser
frank compass
ptfe is ptfe the difference between brands
really shouldnt be much
@astral dagger
astral dagger
what about Teflon feet? are you better or worse?
frank compass
ptfe is teflon
astral dagger
oh hahaha
i feel dumb
i got confused cos one brand called then ptfe and anther teflon haha
vivid jolt
They absolutely have to address a mad list of things with this new reveal in the next couple days.
Also these ops sound like utter BS on paper, so I hope that doesn't just add fuel to the fire.
frank compass
removing Pengu's in game charm
because he criticized Ubi in a 2hour video
and uploaded it to youtube
amazing
honestly amazing how ubi acts like a 10 year old child towards ppl who disagree with them
night radish
They removed his charm?
Really
28k votes with a 95% agreement vote
Thats pretty significant lol
night radish
Wow lol what the fuck
frank compass
or they made it to where you cant get it anymore
night radish
Also @vivid jolt new ops? Qué
vivid jolt
Odin and super-barb bitch.
No way they actually removed his charm from the game.
Absolutely not. That'd be a full admittance of guilt.
frank compass
@vivid jolt pretty sure they removed the ability to get it
Ive heard some people dont have it on their accounts anymore
vivid jolt
That...
frank compass
I mean they removed Noob's dev skin
vivid jolt
No words.
surreal cosmos
how to get kovaak sens = to hipfire sens?
astral dagger
https://jscalc.io/calc/lJgwOPudGEBnjD66 @surreal cosmos
night radish
Match cm/360s
frank compass
@surreal cosmos just use the siege option in sensitivities and input ur sens
if you use a multiplier then sens * mult / 0.02
is your sens for kvks
astral dagger
find the cm360 and then convert it into your sens for kovaak
smurfing is now bannable
against tos*
i thought operation health was the worst season
why are people saying it is in its worst state
frank compass
why are people saying it is in its worst state
@astral dagger watch the video
night radish
Exactly lol
The game is 3 years older and we still deal w the same shit
It used to be a lot worse though
astral dagger
please stop saying #savesiege
in reality, the community is making the game worse
everyone was complaining about everyone rushing
but now the game is being played to slow
frank compass
trooper
please
you dont want
this argument
literally no one except low elo shitters ever complained about rushing
and low elo is still where the game cna be played at whatever pace ppl want to play at
astral dagger
why is everyones comeback
low elo shitter
so get flanked is a low elo shitter?
the logic bomb podcast is a shitter?
frank compass
because ive played the game for 5 years and the only times Ive ever seen anyone complain about RUSHING is on reddit and in low elo?
everyone was complaining about everyone rushing
@astral dagger
you said nothing about flanking and logic bomb
global abilities are dogshit additions to the game because they are low skill floor and absurdly high skill ceiling when used correctly
and regardless of if you use them correctly, you get some sort of info out of them
on the note of flanking, literally no one complains about flanking seriously
it can be annoying to be flanked, but flanking is a core part of any tac shooter
anyone who complains about flanking and claims it's a problem with the game is a fucking moron
frank compass
I mean
Get Flanked
is a low elo shitter
he's actually garbage at the game lmao
frank compass
ive literally never watched it
astral dagger
oh
frank compass
because I dont care about the opinions
of a gold yt'er
Get_Flanked is actually garbage at the game
he just has clout cause he used to do the Pro interview things
which Ill give him credit, were enjoyable watches
astral dagger
i have a question about the meta
i thought the meta is how people played the game
not what is in the game
frank compass
meta is most effective tactic available. The meta is/are specific team comps and utility utilization
meta is based on what is in the game
Goyo is meta, because he is extremely effective forcing out attacker utility and forces out a soft breach pick from attackers that need to dedicate to destroying his gadget
playing Goyo is meta
Goyo isnt the best example for ranked
because much like castle, shitty shield placements can be useless or detrimental for your team
I guess a better one would be like
Bandit on Clubhouse CCTV is meta when Maverick is banned
because he forces out either a thatcher pick, or he forces attackers to establish control underneath in order to get him off the wall
which wastes time, utility, and drones
raw fox
what are new ops abilities?
astral dagger
barbed and drone apparently
frank compass
@raw fox it's just leaks rn
astral dagger
the previous patch notes were fake
soo
cant say how reliable it is
they also made smurfing bannable
frank compass
anything abt smurfing is impossible to enforce
like theoretically my alt is a smurf
but it's also an alt account
I dont purposefully derank it to stat boost
but it's also lower ranked
so
ie: the intent of the account isnt to smurf, but it could be considered one
astral dagger
ubisoft should make so
if you make a new account
you link it to your main
so you play your placements in your rank
or something
its annoying having eu plats and diamonds playing placements in gold
and na
frank compass
so trooper
whats your solution
for new players
who dont have an existing account?
what do they link it to?
frank compass
so then
whats stopping people from just
sayign they are a new player
to circumvent the system?
frank compass
how
ocean jewel
Once as a silver i was match against a diamond
frank compass
your solution is entirely impractical
ocean jewel
it was interesting
frank compass
you cant
ocean jewel
^^^
frank compass
it's literally impossible
to solve
thats why focusing on it
and wasting effort
ocean jewel
Its like making a game cheating free
frank compass
is such a waste of time and resources
you cant make a game cheat free
but you can heavily reduce the problems
by adding in a lot of thigns
like fixing 2FA
raising ranked level requirement
etc
frank compass
yes that is
exactly how
they need to fix 2FA
that would also make it so alt accounts were registered with a main
unless someone had 2 numbers but that is much less common
that way if an account from that # gets banned for cheating
any new account added to that number
would also get banned
ripe tree
i am looking for a STRICT aim routine for improving my aim at rainbow six siege
frank compass
look at pins
ripe tree
thank you
vivid jolt
Twitter
frank compass
Not sure I like that change
vivid jolt
It should've been for Theme Park 
vivid jolt
Theme Park can take Coastline.
ripe tree
border is a better map than new oregon
vivid jolt
New Oregon has so much more competitive potential. Border doesn't.
frank compass
for a lot of interesting setups
esp with the mid floor sites
bottom floor oregon is kinda meh tho
like im pretty sure ik how itll be held
ripe tree
the "meta sites" for oregon is a lie
frank compass
?
vivid jolt
There are 2 takes to default (armory) on Border. There are 4 takes to default (laundry) on Oregon. The potential is much wider.
frank compass
yea
ripe tree
usually its 2f>basement>1f sites but that's only because old oregon had a defender sided meta with 2nd floor and basement
frank compass
well yea
ripe tree
i miss tower site on old oregon though
i cant wait to see the 1f holds though. definitely interesting but its gonna be more attacker sided especially with all of the thermite tricking
frank compass
also its just easy to hold 2f and basement without complex setup
ripe tree
aint that the truth
vivid jolt
Really glad Oregon is in comp. Will be really interesting to see the strats. I see a lot of strat potential hiding there.
vivid jolt
Meanwhile Coastline can get hit by a Tsunami.
ripe tree
i think coastline is the closest map to house
it has a lot of simplicity but its really fun to attack and defend and still has competitive potential
theres a lot of holds you can do on many of the sites
vivid jolt
Map buff Bank (with a 3rd staircase to vault, remove windows and metal bars and skylights, and better Attack spawns) and replace it.
Bank would be the easiest rework of all the maps.
ripe tree
i want better bank
i think parking garage shouldnt be a thing you can do
just sit up there the entire game
ripe tree
and the windows on CEO make it reaally tough to hold
esp. if they get that plant down
nothing u can do besides run out
frank compass
@vivid jolt did you ever see that one person's bank rework for the spawn?
that shit was actually amazing
vivid jolt
The only windows on CEO should be the ones on Split. Not the front desk, not the CEO office.
I did.
frank compass
Im fine with the window next to book case
just not the one next to wall
all but the one main lobby window that overlooks kanto and the one in the middle should be blocked off
the atms one can stay too for all i care
since it's a harder angle to set up
astral dagger
Artisan should sponsor me I've sold about 5 pads since i heard about them ahahaha told everyone to get one
timber pivot
Yessss I know that
I've helped a small german brand to sell some mousepads because I am streaming and the pad looks insanely nice
vivid jolt
Spoit plays on an Xtrfy, he won't like it.
Artisan pads in Siege are just fashionable trends because they're high-quality, exotic and unheard of.
When almost all of them are unideal.
frank compass
I wouldnt say zero is unideal
Id say a GSR SE is better
but Zero still has enough stopping power to be a very good pad for siege
astral dagger
They added Oregon in comp?
Oregon has potential for a lot of good starts unlike the old one.
mental snow
Coastline is fucking dog i wish that map hit the chopping block
Defending on coast might be worse than chalet
Atleast wine is a semi viable site depending on bans
and it takes a lot of utility to attack wine
Coastline you can run pretty much all frag ops + 1 flank watch
my problem with coast isnt that its small either - i think a small map in competitive play would be very interesting and i dont think its a BAD thing that its frag heavy - its just the attackers have way too much of an advantage when clearing or hitting site - theres literally no safe position on defence in just about the whole map
also, i like border because pretty much every site is equally as viable
armory is the easiest site to attack because everybody knows what to do - the other sites are a lot tougher to crack in competitive play but really hard to defend in ranked
inland lark
What type of mousepas should i get for siege if i do not want to import an artisan
mental snow
gsr black or gsr se
inland lark
Whats the difference?
mental snow
gsr really prone to humidity tho
frank compass
kinda ass
frank compass
like in live in FL, and mudpad isnt even
a literal mudpad would be better
than what my GSR is
mental snow
yea when its a humid streak for a few days its actually despicable, youd be better off using thick carpet as a mousepad
vivid jolt
Last summer it was so humid I had to use my Shidenkai for a week because 100% humidity and my mom keeping the porch open was so bad.
warm girder
hien soft is good for siege :>
raw fox
^
frank compass
Hien soft is good for everything
raw fox
shidenkai is the most fun pad
raw fox
i dont main it so it lasts a while
vivid jolt
The solo queue experience.
frank compass
The gold experience.*
vivid jolt
A lot of talk from someone who can't beat Hurls consistently.
vivid jolt
And lost. :3
frank compass
sigh
mental snow
lime wyvern
tough
vivid jolt
Was using wrong sens, turns out. Was using 58cm instead of 50.
inland lark
ye its humid here
astral dagger
@mental snow coastline is a good map if you play the default closely with a team who knows what they are doing
If you want to solo roam with no utility to help you expect your shit to be kicked in lol
mental snow
no
astral dagger
yes?
astral dagger
so get flanked is a low elo shitter?
@astral dagger get flanked is indeed a low elo shitter
it's literally impossible
@frank compass theres one game that managed to basically fix smurfing and that only on one server
if you play league of legends on the Korean server you have to link your social security number
but that wont work anywhere else
fathom moss
if you play league of legends on the Korean server you have to link your social security number
🤣
astral dagger
@fathom moss ?
sly temple
is true
astral dagger
ye most games in korea require a ss number cuz of their cyber deformation law
vivid jolt
I don't believe that cheaters are the same species as I am.
vivid jolt
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you:
The state of Siege
https://streamable.com/2g6p4x
lime wyvern
Its probably because your health and ammo hud is off
vivid jolt
My HUD has always been entirely off except for nade indicators.
astral dagger
@vivid jolt charlet has so many bugged spots
where you are invincible
to some degree
its known
noble belfry
Testing out those new hacks
night radish
That is not what i expected toast to sound like
inland lark
Lmao
frank compass
yea ik abt the KR server riot account thing @astral dagger
it isnt a viable solution tho lmao
frank compass
yea
astral dagger
@astral dagger I use to play 83 all the time I’ve only ever played a different ads as of now haha why you wanted to change?
idk i was bored
frank compass
fuck non focal length scaled zoom sensitivity
noble belfry
honestly focal length is pretty nice
frank compass
is the best*
astral dagger
i dont see the difference
astral dagger
oh
to dumb
to tweet
once gun people are complaining about recycled weapons
now new
not*
vivid jolt
@night radish New mic recently, so technically not the same. 
frank compass
?
frank compass
yea imagine if they used the Technical TEST Server to actually
you know
TEST things out
on a frequent basis
rather than like maybe 1 or 2 times every 4 months
ripe tree
how many times should I do each program in my 11 program long playlist for a strict aiming routine
vivid jolt
Aljo, you're fired.
@ripe tree That doesn't tell us anything. Depends on the scenario, your weaknesses, how much time you have, and how much time you spend playing the actual game.
Shroud acknowledging the cheaters and dumping BikiniBodhi in the process. HAH.
https://twitter.com/yu259052111/status/1260614420276768768?s=20
Sucks that every videogame on the market right now is in such a terrible state.
Especially with cheating.
frank compass
thank you for linking this, I meant to watch it earlier then completely forgot cause I had to take an exam
also why am I fired? @vivid jolt
also
Ferral is goat
vivid jolt
Suggesting actually testing things on the test server. We don't do that here.
mental snow
iana would be so good if she set off traps
perfect counter to ela / lesion and would make kapkan need a buff and allow them to buff elas gun
ripe tree
my reflex flicks are pretty bad and so is my tracking
frank compass
yea I was honestly hoping the iana clone did that
at least with concussion mines and kapkan traps
since theyre "motion sensors" iirc
mental snow
just make it so kapkan traps and lesions destroy the clone
astral dagger
i just found out right now people are complaining about proning
since when is this a problem
mental snow
its a gimmicky mechanic that makes gunfights rng
especially with no sound most of the time
coarse valeBOT
GG @astral dagger, you just advanced to level 6 !
frank compass
proning is a mechanic that really only comes into play when reloading or holding very specific angles
I dont think it should be removed but I understand why ppl would want it removed
vivid jolt
I don't think proning should be removed from the game at all.
frank compass
i think leaning should, but since its a launch mechanic I understand why it should be kept
vivid jolt
I think they just need to fix sound so I can hear when they do it, and have it so they can't change prone stance while shooting (so legs don't get in the way).
frank compass
same with proning
velvet fern
You can't move properly when you're proned. Their attempt in trying to make the mechanics of it realistic is just sad.
frank compass
who cares abt realism
lmao
also you shouldnt be able to move properly when proned
it shouldnt be something youre doing all the time
Twitter
please
forest terrace
what is the fov form cs to r6
frank compass
vivid jolt
NO dude, I'm not crazy. I've tested every sensitivity for too long to not be able to feel it properly. There's no way these multipliers combined with an Xfactor are accurate.
It's wrong. I'm going to measure it.
vivid jolt
I'm not crazy. I can guess sensitivity by feel. I calculated it and it should be almost 46cm exactly but it feels like 36.
frank compass
uh
vivid jolt
It has to be wrong.
vivid jolt
Of course.
vivid jolt
UL2. 1600dpi.
frank compass
nvm then
vivid jolt
Double checked, it is.
frank compass
go get ur tape measure toast
also
tell me
in game sens and multiplier
please
im just curious
mental snow
nope im on toast side for this one
the xfactor/multiplier are not consistent with what they say they are
vivid jolt
I fucking knew it.
It's wrong.
@static sentinel I can't explain this one. Any idea?
frank compass
it isnt an issue with his calculator
vivid jolt
I don't believe so either.
frank compass
because it's also showing 46 for that cm/mult on both the calculators I tried
and my spreadsheet
I really dont want to tape measure my sens but
time to test
i have a KPU and UL2 on my desk
so I can test both
when my game launches
vivid jolt
Trying 0.001 mult. on 1Xfactor instead of a 6digit mult with Xfac.
frank compass
yea you should really try to have a mult that is 0.01
my KPU measured ~30.5
my UL2 measured ~30
my sens is supposed to be around 30.5
800 dpi / 34 sens / 0.00384 mult
vivid jolt
Going for 46.4 (0.001mult) I've gotten 44.5cm twice by hand. Accounting for human error that's pretty accurate.
frank compass
yea so then I think it's an issue with multiplier rounding for the sens you had previously
since it was 3 0s before any input
that's super fucking small
vivid jolt
I agree, I don't believe it fully goes up to 6 digits.
frank compass
possibly
it only lets you input 6 digits
oh oh oh
try your old mult
but double sens
and half dpi
and tell me what results you get
vivid jolt
No, but even then.
vivid jolt
Assuming my 0.000943 multiplier would round up perfectly to 0.001, it would only change the 46cm I was going for into 43.4cm. It would not change into 36cm like I felt.
So it can't be a rounding error.
frank compass
mmmmmmm
vivid jolt
At least not a basic one.
frank compass
interesting
I can try a different mult real quick that should give me same sens
and see if there is an issue
vivid jolt
Fuck, man, I wish I could talk to a dev.
frank compass
wait
one sec
so
I cant actually
get a multiplier that low
without changing my dpi
and I dont want to reconfigure my dpi on my kpu
so ill only be able to test this with ul2
vivid jolt
I can test it for you.
frank compass
im testing 100 @ 1600 dpi w 0.000653 multiplier
should be ~30.5cm
if i didnt box my s2 today i wouldve tested w that aswel
I got 28cm
alright now i do wanna test this w kpu aswell
I got ~29.5
vivid jolt
Are you using an Xfactor?
frank compass
im testing hip
vivid jolt
Still.
vivid jolt
No, are you using one now?
frank compass
so one sec
vivid jolt
Were*
frank compass
I have an xfactor i just wasnt zooming for those measurements
vivid jolt
Okay.
frank compass
I was using the compass and doing a full rotation
which is how ive always measured
vivid jolt
So you have a 1.0Xfactor and you're getting accurate results with a full 6 digit multiplier.
So why the hell...
Am I not?
frank compass
i have 0.016667 xfactor
i can try on 1
the results didnt change when i zoomed
lemme try 1 xfactor
theoretically your hip and zoom should be the same with 1 xfactor assuming your zoom sens is >3
for acog and holo at least
since theyre supposed to (and used to at the very least) cap at 1:1
same results
running 1 xfactor @ 100
with holo
i guess I need to test acog too
on both KPU and UL2 @ 1600
vivid jolt
Tried 33cm on 1.0X 0.002mult and getting 31.5. Probably accurate.
But this is weird.
Trying a larger digit mult now.
frank compass
im getting ~29cm each time on a sens that is supposed to be 30.5 so Im assuming that it's error
im not making marks on my mousepad to be 100% certain
so itll do
also was doing the tests with Ash, but speed of character shouldnt have any affect on turn speed
same results with Acog
on sledge
28/29cm each time with both KPU and UL2 @ 1600
mult: 0.000653
sens: 100
xfactor: 1
toast i think ur mouse must be scuffed
vivid jolt
0.000555 should be 35cm, if it rounds to 0.0005 it would be 40cm.
I got 33.8. Assuming I'm bad, that's pretty close.
So why the fuck?
What?
frank compass
I would try the multiplier you had for 46cm, but my ruler isnt long enough
and I dont want to try to guestimate between 4-15cm
or add in the (possible) extra error of moving my ruler
vivid jolt
I am again.
frank compass
I am quite baffled by the issues you are having
I mean I think more people should do it to make sure our results are correct, and ideally we'd all use the same mults/sens/etc
but
based on what has been done
results seem very odd
vivid jolt
WHAT.
Is going on.
THE SAME EXACT 46cm multiplier is now giving me 75cm.
What the fuck?!
frank compass
oh ok
LMAO
side note
im actually about to just swap my playlist to YT
since spotify just randomly loses songs 🙂
and also Im tired of importing like 10 mp3s a day into my spotify
vivid jolt
Okay so for some unexplained miraculous reasoning with the exact same settings, my 46cm mult. is now displaying 44.5 cm. Tried the same mult going for 30cm and am getting 28.5cm.
Something I've noticed though is that almost all of my tests are around 1-2cm under.
I'd count that as human error but it's never almost exact to target, nor 2cm over, nor more than 1-2cm difference.
vivid jolt
Yeah this chat is kind of weird. You can get the gist of it if you read like 10messages above where I @'ed and a few below.
frank compass
but Im assuming that is either human err or just an issue with the engine
vivid jolt
Bizarre.
frank compass
really is
static sentinel
Hmmm
vivid jolt
Something is fucky.
static sentinel
You can test this out
By trying the calculations
Calculate the zoomed in sensitivity
static sentinel
Yes they should
vivid jolt
Unless you mean the actual sensitivity value, which would be 2.169 with this 46cm multiplier I've been trying.
static sentinel
Yup
vivid jolt
So what do you propose I do with this information?
static sentinel
Give me a sec, I'm trying to pull my calculations
It's 5 am and my Brain is fried
(360/(yaw * mousesensitivity * DPI)) * 2.54)
Let's plug it into this
vivid jolt
I've measured a dozen times and consistently have gotten around 44cm instead of 46cm like I should be. Every different direction. ACOG, Holo, hip.
Something is wrong.
static sentinel
As what they state on the blog is different than what is ingame