Then they will turtle
#siege
astral dagger
frank compass
post invite goyo play and wamai kinda shifted the way basement was played
for t4/t3 na
PL this split also was kinda lacking on SSG roam from what I remember
at least in NA
vivid jolt
I don't know why Velvet Shell is so suddenly beloved by the community.
It's like people forget it was so bad that Operation Health needed to come in the next season.
vivid jolt
No other game has a DLC to fix the game.
frank compass
well
vivid jolt
It was not a good state.
vivid jolt
Fair.
frank compass
and that was mostly
what my graph was on
because it was the main thing I was thinking abt
but yea
youre right
the season is def idolized
at this point
astral dagger
Velvet shell is good becuase the operators released were good
Imo
Best dlc operators ever besides red crow
vivid jolt
And the worst being Blood Orchid.
vivid jolt
Fuck that.
vivid jolt
I'll take 1 overpowered asshole over 3 overpowered assholes.
vivid jolt
Ying Lesion and Ela can all go crawl in a hole and die.
vivid jolt
Because people didn't understand how much insane info he gave- and still gives.
frank compass
well
not anymore
since they made it so it has to be 10m with LoS to see trap
but yea the recharge time combined with little understanding made him meh on launch
vivid jolt
Truth. They made it a lot harder to recognize the info. But if someone is near the info is still there.
frank compass
yea I thought the LoS change
was kinda overkill
I think within 12m with no insta damage
wouldve been the best nerf
but it doesnt really matter tbh
vivid jolt
Hell nah. They should've made it so they're just not invisible so you don't get to throw them around like a brainless ape.
frank compass
hes gonna be out of meta for awhile cause of all the other defenders
vivid jolt
LoS change is good alternative though.
frank compass
having them not invis wouldnt even be a nerf tbh
like the invis part isnt the issue
and never really has been
its the fact theyre their hitbox is bigger than the model
vivid jolt
I know but it gives it counter play. It doesn't take away any of his information, but it allows the user to acknowledge the play and strategize around it.
frank compass
The LoS is very finicky tho
vivid jolt
Invisible now it's just you hit it, go "aw fuck", and hope he isn't close enough to swing your ass.
frank compass
I think making it not invisible, making it so you can only see it if youre within 12m of it (but no LoS)
would be best
the insta 10 damage
was so fucking stupid tho
vivid jolt
I don't care if it did as much as a kapkan trap. Just let me fucking see it so it's now my fault.
frank compass
this clip made me laugh a shitton earlier
I mean tbf
you can see them
if you look
or if you drone
they arent really invisible
vivid jolt
Yeah yeah I have to lick the floorboards at every doorway and I can see it, I know.
Stupid excuse from Lesion mains.
frank compass
Im not a lesion main tho :<
astral dagger
Operation chimera was this games worst season
frank compass
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
vivid jolt
I don't mean you.
frank compass
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
astral dagger
But a lot of its problems were fixed within the year
astral dagger
Unlike the rest of the seasons since
frank compass
was when they finally started fixing
some of the issues
lmao
Lion was broken
for 9 months
vivid jolt
I still question how anybody at Ubisoft at all thought Clash was a good idea.
frank compass
I hate Clash
like she isnt op
but I fucking hate her
more than any other defender
astral dagger
Lion was broken for 8 months
astral dagger
When valorant comes out I will be jumping games, not becuase I like valorant but becuase I really dislike the ubi dev team
vivid jolt
I mean Lion still is entirely broken in concept. It's just the ping result is so lackluster.
astral dagger
Lion still gets something for nothing
vivid jolt
He's not super OP now. I mean conceptually, his interaction hasn't changed at all.
astral dagger
All the operators that get something for nothing are no skill bs even if they aren't powerful at all
frank compass
his one use case rn is Coastline
but his gadget is flawed at a core
same with BB, Dokk, etc
Finka aswell to an extent
vivid jolt
Anyone getting something for a global button is overpowered. Doesn't mean they're always useful, but their gadget's interactions are overtuned.
frank compass
yea
vivid jolt
They need to make Finka just a healer. That's it.
vivid jolt
That was their original concept was a speed boost.
frank compass
the recoil reduction is stupid
yea ik the original concept
but that isnt what she is
astral dagger
Finkas ability should make her immune to all cc and give her 20 health
vivid jolt
Her heal can even be temporary still. Just acts as an overheal buffer.
Let the new op be a permanent healer.
astral dagger
But she takes 3x damage from lesion, kapkan and smoke
frank compass
I think Finka's ability should do what mini said and give +10 to all teammates within 10m
if you go over 100 then it disappears like doc
if you arent over 100 then you get the health like doc
I feel like that would be a good gadget interaction
just make it last like 15 seconds so its an ability where you are forced to push with
itd at least make the character use cases interesting
unrelated to this conversation
astral dagger
I really wish you could play this game competitively without refrag potential
frank compass
Mouse 4 is the superior ADS bind
vivid jolt
frank compass
Ive been using it cause i was trying it out in quake so i could bind m2 to jump
and genuinely pretty solid
although idk what to use m2 as in siege now
frank compass
:<
astral dagger
astral dagger
The game gives me better color rank therfore my opinion right 
frank compass
LOL
my experience with mouse4 ads is entirely based off of playing ranked with hurls in low - high gold elo
therefore my opinion is supreme!
as the best gold player in this server
my opinion is goated
astral dagger
Sorry champion, that's the wrong opinion
frank compass
:<<<<
vivid jolt
I have the most social media followers thus my opinion superior 
astral dagger
I didn't know we were living in 2018
vivid jolt
vivid jolt
frank compass
Toast has 1 yt vid with 250k views
thinks he can flex following
smh
Pengu Fabian follows me on twitter and therefore my opinion is supreme 😎
silver mulch
do u guys use ow 103 fov or do yall use ur siege fov
inland lark
i use my siege fov
inland lark
thats a pretty significant difference
astral dagger
the aljo and hurls adventure in low na gold
insane
teached me a lot
and i showed aljo what tilting hard for 8 hours with no pause means
noble belfry
It looked fun from the clips aljo posted
astral dagger
ye it was
normal bloom
tis but its still arm for me
carmine pier
Bro
Who is crqw.
Honest to god the greatest fucking entry I have ever seen I was in awe
Pinging on west coast servers
night radish
He’s trash in asia lmao
And even worse in EU
It makes no sense
Also idk what roids he is takin but G1 ember rise to diamond shifting tides
night radish
Hacks ?
carmine pier
nah
i mean
i wanna believe he was just that good
i hope he is
honestly inspiring
he was diamond before ember rise anyway
and hes a lvl 347
coulda had off seasons like when i started solo q'ing and dropped off diamond
- he plays so many regions hes bound to hit diamond somewhere
night radish
Did you clip anything
carmine pier
incoming
only 2 instances firsthand
his best i only got from 3rd person but here's 2 killcams to illustrate
night radish
1st one not a huge deal but second one was nasty
astral dagger
ye
2nd one is nuts
Good shots
When you have an idea where someone is vrt is quicker in the moment
Compared to if you subconsciously don't think someone is somewhere
Even if you are clearing as normal
Imo at least
carmine pier
dude had the sight
cleared like he was being live droned on defense with no cams
Lion doki ying stacks
Because the elo is so so precious
carmine pier
Smfh IQ on the board lounging
Getting spam pinged and hes lounging
No calls on my cams
I'm done for the day
astral dagger
new video like and sub https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PA9_gK6vdw
astral dagger
was trying new sens wanted show a few practice clips
astral dagger
ty sir
carmine pier
how get on good team
frank compass
region?
carmine pier
na
frank compass
rank
carmine pier
either plat1 or 2 not sure tbh
frank compass
im assuming you have no real connections
carmine pier
none
carmine pier
pretty much
frank compass
go LFT in CCS and ESA discords
you just missed AGN quals
so
prob not a whole lot
carmine pier
yeah i did, most of those trys are not on my level tbh
frank compass
drop the ego
carmine pier
im not CL tier to ascend either
frank compass
suck it up
carmine pier
its not ego man its fact lol
frank compass
Ive been there
done that
if you dont have connections
or friends who you can make a team with
then you get to play the LFT game
and hope a team worth anything will scalp you
astral dagger
is that the league below cl?
carmine pier
amatuer
frank compass
well AGN is T3
astral dagger
how would you get into them also are they discord servers?
carmine pier
i don't remember names but i forsure see some talent in esa invite
not much but its there
frank compass
@astral dagger most of the amateur leagues are NA only
frank compass
ESA invite has like 3 teams that are actually T3
frank compass
the rest of ESA invite sucks like the rest of T4
astral dagger
im new to all the lower leagues and stuff
astral dagger
ty
frank compass
T1 - PL
T2 - CL
T3 - Teams that are consistently able to compete w T2 teams and are usually established
T4 - everyone else
that is generally how it goes
some people group T4 and T3
astral dagger
ah ty
carmine pier
mean
astral dagger
does it stand for anything the t?
carmine pier
tier
frank compass
Tier
carmine pier
PL has its own league as does CL
frank compass
there are 3 levels of competition
there is Pro League, there is (whatever will replace CL), and there is amateur
T4 are teams that arent in any amateur leagues or are in very low/insignificant leagues
carmine pier
shoulda never quit back in dec
gonna take your advice @frank compass
climb out the slums
astral dagger
There is a ubisoft discord where teams are invited and are considered T1 I'm pretty sure
frank compass
the ubisoft discord exists for teams that are a part of Pilot program / are planned to be a part
carmine pier
and apparently they don't answer lel
frank compass
and yea its for official communication
astral dagger
One of the teams I'm under consideration for has been invited to it
But they aren't pl
So idk whats up with that
frank compass
are they under contract with an actual org?
astral dagger
Yeah
frank compass
thats prob why
frank compass
then that's weird
idk
Usually its PL teams + Teams with big org (ie Secret)
at least to my knowledge
carmine pier
they in a national league mini?
carmine pier
🤔
astral dagger
i think im first
to discover a new bug
lmao
clip only starts half way through cuz recording is bugged
no space i guess
but i play from the drone view
basically
same color settings
and all
xd
carmine pier
Looks cool
frank compass
its not new
rain oriole
lmao thats a cool bug
astral dagger
hey guys i was wondering would any high lvl player wanna be a coach or analyst for my team we need to work on a lot rn but i really wanna take it serious and i think we could benefit from a coach and or analyst to help out we are a eu team but don't need to be eu to coach dm if interested ty
carmine pier
Tier?
frank compass
I would assume T4
worn wagon
Coaching is hard
frank compass
depends on what a team needs out of a coach
worn wagon
But watching your team's matches live is exiting
worn wagon
I mean doing usual stuff - strats, recording scrims, giving feedback, watching opponents VODs and map bans
Then getting all the data summarized
Just a lot of work
I literally don't know how others have so much time
PL coaches are nuts
But they also work full time I guess
frank compass
they also usually have staff
worn wagon
Ye ik
I work with a guy as well
We do a lot of stuff together tho
Though if you want to improve playing isn't easy either
astral dagger
Ty
@vivid jolt you say you were thinking about a community montage, just after i emptied my whole clip hard drive
vivid jolt
Sounds like a fun idea.
But ideally, montages work best when the clips have multiple kills in a short time frame.
So a bunch of nice 1-taps wouldn't make that insane of a montage unless they were bonkers.
I only say that because it seems the average person clips a quick bink than a decent 4K.
astral dagger
@vivid jolt i had a 18 and a 14.5 second ace in there, and shit like me spinning in a room and getting 3 to 4 kills
@frank compass damn that guy with the pistol headshot on the clash in the end
seems like a rly good player
frank compass
Huh
Oh
Im assuming those streamables are examples of what youd want for the montage tho, right? @vivid jolt
astral dagger
frank compass
In terms of time/content
vivid jolt
I mean like 4 kills in... 5-10 seconds, ideally.
vivid jolt
Similar to a CoD clip.
vivid jolt
It's a lot easier and looks a lot nicer to edit with.
vivid jolt
With a bunch of 1 taps or a very spread out ace that takes 1.5minutes, there's a lot of jumpcuts and looks disoriented.
frank compass
for what you were going for
vivid jolt
Fuck I wish I could show you my montage.
For perfect examples.
I'm not saying you can't send nice 1 taps or insane 2-man transitions. I just mean that if you all have a lot of clips and need to choose some, those above are the type of clips that ideally work best.
normal bloom
send clip or bad
vivid jolt
If you have some clips, upload them to YouTube or provide a download and we can totally make a community tage eventually. (I can't download any videos though, rn. 12TB full of my own video)
No promises when though.
But could start getting your clips in order for when that time comes.
normal bloom
what bitrate toast?
frank compass
5k 1080p would prob be ideal
carmine pier
dm when you got a vod @astral dagger
astral dagger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xo9PFOdck4 3 ppl in like 3 seconds
carmine pier
ill send a few demo clips
vivid jolt
For sure try to at least get 1080p60fps.
astral dagger
i knew it
cuz its toast
even his shitty low effort profile picturew
is 4k
res
vivid jolt
QUALITY.
frank compass
I have a shitton of old clips
That might work
But theyre from y4
So like idk if youd want them
carmine pier
ty
astral dagger
@vivid jolt your fault when you see me playing ar's on semi auto in plat ranked
to get triple 1 tap clips
astral dagger
but mpx is so dogshit
vivid jolt
The amount of times I've thrown to get a clip....
vivid jolt
@.RonaldRaygun can attest.
I mean age of clips doesn't matter.
Doesn't make them less impressive, just makes them old.
astral dagger
@carmine pier literally ruins the clip that you drop the slope in lounge
and do sound
vivid jolt
I have clips from 18months ago.
frank compass
frank compass
idk how good the quality on that is when uploaded to disc
astral dagger
damn aljo plays with bloom on
vivid jolt
EWWWWWWWWWWW
frank compass
yea
vivid jolt
That warrants a @frank compass Grounded.
frank compass
I usually dont
astral dagger
we are both so pathetic lmao
vivid jolt
@astral dagger Grounded.
astral dagger
btw i just hit the most insane clip
frank compass
LOL
frank compass
I have so many clips
astral dagger
makes you play better
vivid jolt
I have 8TB of y4 clips.
vivid jolt
I have old Club clips still.
astral dagger
i deleted 614 gigs of insane clips
like i already sorted them out
they were all good standart
astral dagger
xd
The amount of times I've thrown to get a clip....
@vivid jolt all my high elo homies kill me for it
"why do you play for kills instead of win"
thats why you are dogshit
i hear that every day
vivid jolt
Content > elo
astral dagger
word 🙏
vivid jolt
Shhhttshshtshsthshh...
astral dagger
@frank compass https://streamable.com/k4gn15 rate cancerous movement please
vivid jolt
I don't wanna hear it.
I haven't pushed for Elo (except once in Phantom Sight solo queue) since Year 1.
astral dagger
excuses
vivid jolt
Well I only play with my homies and they're all casual-tryhard gamers.
frank compass
it's ok @astral dagger
astral dagger
well thats before i swapped
it was still fine back then
and it looks kinda cool in the clip ngl
@carmine pier zkilled playaz
astral dagger
It just works.
vivid jolt
Mhm.
vivid jolt
Ayy.
Wait 'til you see the closer clip to this montage.
You ain't ever seen a trickshot before.
carmine pier
thats all i got under 10s clips i think
astral dagger
you have never seen an ash with five seven spinning over you bombsite while being on 15cm 360 and finka drugs
carmine pier
unless you want 2k sprays
vivid jolt
I mean they don't have to be under 10seconds. If you get a 3k in a relatively short timeframe, and then 120 seconds later in the round you get a double spray, that's still ideal.
carmine pier
i got a 25 second 4k
vivid jolt
That's just one cut.
astral dagger
have like 14 second ace
carmine pier
with 2 han solo headshots
astral dagger
thats good
carmine pier
took site on border
normal bloom
what song?
carmine pier
what do you mean?
astral dagger
its gonna be the shit you find
when you type in "gaming music mix"
on youtube
and its the last vid with 144p
going 8hours
thats the level of song
normal bloom
i love all the identical montages with xxxtentacion universal white doc twitch clips
very original
carmine pier
greatest of all time
normal bloom
bruh those effects are insane
carmine pier
i made one frag movie
its mostly call of duty clips though
@vivid jolt check my resume? we can make this together
astral dagger
its not my masterpiece
but i like the Denzel Curry - Ultimate
great music choice
but can we honestly not take some wierd american trap rap song
it is literally any montage ever
carmine pier
my montage is set to al green
coarse valeBOT
GG @carmine pier, you just advanced to level 13 !
astral dagger
and like dont over edit
astral dagger
btw @vivid jolt if you want good editors to help you , you can ask ppl like Zyjeff
or Narpha
just not both, since they are full mad at each other atm
they are like the 2 biggest siege montage channels
carmine pier
why are they upset
astral dagger
Idk they used to be always collab and shit
vivid jolt
Huh.
astral dagger
and last time i gate keeped zyjeff from plat 2
he told me that they dont do stuff together anymore
and "narpha only does shit montages now"
lmoa
vivid jolt
Ahah.
astral dagger
but they have discord servers and stuff, theres like 3 editing discord servers im in
idk how familiar you are with the editing programms and stuff
ppl there seem to be very helpful
normal bloom
i see what you mean about clip pacing toast
vivid jolt
Not going to lie, I don't enjoy Narpha/Jolly/Zyjeff style montages.
normal bloom
a bunch of 1ks look like ass
astral dagger
ye
vivid jolt
Pacing is more important than the actually skill of the kill.
astral dagger
@vivid jolt its a lot of editing, they put emphasis on pacing and effects . its rly about the editing skills
not the clip
astral dagger
but that also means that they know the software well
ye depends from your point of view
vivid jolt
The way I see it, doesn't matter how well the effects are done if you don't compliment the clip. An edit is only as good as it promotes the clip, not gets in the way of the clip.
Though, what do I know?
astral dagger
i mean maybe if you are an editor you see it diffrent idk
i agree with you tho
but yeah i still like zyjeff and narpha stuff more than jolly
jolly is just boring
and the zoom on cheating accusations in chat is just edgy idk
carmine pier
depends..
astral dagger
out of the insane aimers that clip
astral dagger
have the best standarts
carmine pier
there's a difference
astral dagger
godly is just
carmine pier
send me the discords pls hurls
carmine pier
theres communities that have collections of staged clips public
for the pure sake of editing
astral dagger
@carmine pier its a ok thing to do
astral dagger
im gonna play for hs rate again
like full on practice
get it above 70% again
i dropped to 50% overall its so cringe
normal bloom
bodyshot tages are cringe
carmine pier
he knows his limits
carmine pier
5213
HS Accuracy
37.66%
astral dagger
i have 40 on my main
vivid jolt
I relate.
Shame it's not displayed per season.
Somebody just sent me this clip. THunt.
Casuals are a lower lifeform.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/652780825649217556/701193668329078794/Y_I_K_E_S.mp4
The amount of things wrong with this.
night radish
Lmfaoooo
raw fox
people got higher sensitivities than a tumblr user
dawn coyote
Does this count? if it counts i have a higher quality longer version
ill search for more clips after my online classes
astral dagger
Where do I check my hs%
zenith quartz
Is it worth getting into siege right now? Or is the game on its last leg popularity wise
normal bloom
man
auto drivers whomst use their horns if you are any slower off the lights than 100ms are primates
astral dagger
@zenith quartz it's the most popular it's ever been
But in my honest opinion unless you like struggling for months to come or only want to play the game extremely casually you probably won't enjoy it
Give it a try though it's only like $15
gaunt galleon
or wait until its on sale
zenith quartz
I've had it for a while I've just never gotten into it really
Got annoyed at all the see through walls abilities that got added
And no I want to find a new game to try hard, can't really find one I'm into
worn wagon
@zenith quartz Game is really popular and except a few issues looks like it has a bright future
Very steep learning curve tho, hard to start
And you kinda need to play competitive to play the "full" version of the game IMO. Basically need people to play with at all times
Even though this game has it's issues(a lot of them) and can be really frustrating at times, it is unique and the core idea is amazing
vivid jolt
There is a mandatory 100hrs of beginner's suffering to the game, as I like to say.
But everyone here will attest that the payoff is one of [if not] the most interesting FPS games ever made with extremely high replayability.
Also, playing with friends or finding new friends to play with is all but necessary.
dawn coyote
Fucking ying spamming me with her balls
cant see shit
what i can do is just fucking die
cuz what else can i do
normal bloom
clash players can toaster bath
normal bloom
bruh why do my feet stick out infront when i wanna prone
vivid jolt
Would be neat if there was an option to prone lock your character's position.
Say, holding the slow-walk key while proned would not change your legs' orientation.
carmine pier
as if we needed more ways to rat out
astral dagger
Best rat spot is under a desk in logistics on club
I remember playing it and being accused by some pro team that I was hiding from drones
Gents is off son, we are playing your warmup game
rats rise up
astral dagger
Hell yeah I was, it's a warmup game so no gents rules
Spawnpeeks, ratting or rushing
All allowed
No, the beginner suffering is endless
if you count to the ppl with under room temperature IQ
like anyone in gold or below
carmine pier
have you considered, hurls, that they're just trying to have fun
astral dagger
yes but not in my rankeds ?
astral dagger
XD
astral dagger
A lot of golds are level 200
Which is like 1k hours of play
and i dont see the fun of being a casual player that gets dumpstered as soon as he q's smth that isnt casual
astral dagger
Also all the way up to p3 is average, mid plat is ok, high plat-diamond is good and beyond is you're probably a comp player sweating a 5 stack all day
That's strange I have 3k hours and I'm only level 226
On my main
frank compass
I have 1500 and Im 365+ on my main
errr
somewhere between 1500-2000
not including comp
astral dagger
580 on my smurf, 1.4k on my main i think
frank compass
+500-1000 for comp prob but that doesnt count towards XP
frank compass
how
my smurf is level 100 level 65 (man thats a lot lower than I thought) with like
~40 hours
astral dagger
I guess I play a lot of custom?
frank compass
yea but 90% of gold players
carmine pier
and now, ranked hour comparison
frank compass
arent playign custom
astral dagger
No amount of ranked hours will make you good at siege
carmine pier
tell that to muzi
frank compass
ranked will make you good at siege
astral dagger
Muzi and beaulo played with a lot of pro players before going into comp and when they were in comp they had simple roles and still did bad
Even with thousands of hours of ranked and incredibly good natural mechanical skill
frank compass
Rexen didnt
Rexen was literally a no name
until he played with 92 Dream Team in CL
astral dagger
Rare exceptions don't make a difference to the facts
astral dagger
No competent competitive team will want you no matter how much ranked exp you have or what rank you are
carmine pier
beaulo's been doin well from early on in pl
astral dagger
Only comp experience matters
carmine pier
and pretty much breezed through ccs
frank compass
mini
Im not talking
about players being good at comp
Im talking about the elo system
being dogshit
we're on two separate wave lengths rn
the fact people with like
astral dagger
If you already know how to play the game, have watched a ton of pl, get coaching from some of the best players in R6 and have months of scrim practice at a pl level ofx course you will play well
frank compass
a few hundred hours in a game that is extremely complex
at the core
and dont know shit about pro league
astral dagger
You can't just go from the highest elo into comp and be good at the game
astral dagger
I'm just saying no amount of ranked will make you good at R6
To a certain point it will make you worse
carmine pier
i feel that sentiment is based on too much comparison to other games and their systems tbh aljo
just gotta accept the curve is different in siege tbh
system's probably a necessity, as often as the meta changes
astral dagger
Playing ranked like comp applies the same way it would against other comp teams. Knowing not to peek, taking the advantage in situations and knowing how to do everything the right way will get you more consistent results
Consistency is key in r6
And now
dick length comparsion
Playing ranked even in champion elo doesn't teach you any of this unfortunately
Ranked is so backwards
And it's my belief you gotta have around 1k hours in R6 to understand the fundamentals
carmine pier
ranked teaches you to play tightly at an individual level
there's never
ever
going to be comp tier coordination in a ranked lobby
unless some spastics wanna stack ranked like it..happens often enough
asking too much of strangers
carmine pier
i bet you play ying in that stack too
carmine pier
thank god
anyway, imo
folk stacking ranked which has ranges from solos to duos to folk qued up that can't even speak each others languages
and lamenting "brain dead" plays lack perspective imo
it is what it is because it's all it can be
carmine pier
smh
vivid jolt
You can't just go from the highest elo into comp and be good at the game
@astral dagger
Tell that to Beaulo and Muzi.
astral dagger
I just explained why that isn't the case
vivid jolt
Oh on phone big tired just want post meme goodnight
carmine pier
your rationale is that ranked did nothing because they scrimmed and pracced before they debut buuut
they still got pulled from ranked tbh lol
astral dagger
well when kanto first got signed
For their potential
he also got pulled cuz of insane performance in pubs
Not their baseline game skill fresh out of ranked
carmine pier
i mean
splitting hairs at that point
unless you proved yourself in comp you're not getting pulled from it
new talent has to come from somwhere
A- they form their own teams
B- pulled from ranked
to be molded into comp players
astral dagger
Not really, players who go straight through ranked into high tier comp play have potential in insane mechanical skill or social following
They don't get pulled from high elo becuase they are high elo
carmine pier
i didn't say that they got pulled for high elo
i said they got pulled from their tier of ranked gameplay
..in high elo
astral dagger
they still got pulled from ranked tbh lol
Same difference
Ranked implying high elo
carmine pier
yeah, but not just for being there
there's hundreds of champs thousands of diamonds
astral dagger
Point is, ranked doesn't make you good at the game no matter what elo or rank you make it to, it forms the basics but to a certain point if you ever want to be good at this point and play comp it will hurt you becuase you have to unlearn a lot of things
Saying pl players who came from ranked make that untrue doesn't apply since they already had massive potential and went through a lot of comp experience before their debut anyways
carmine pier
you're erasing ranked as the seed of a lot of the pro community
so
many
spoit fanboys why
astral dagger
Yes, I disregard ranked entirely and think it's a joke
If you have natural talent and potential it will show just through playing the game in any form
And having comp experience at any level is better than only ranked experience imo
other games (csgo, overwatch, fartnite, apex legends) will make you a good player just through ranked exp
Not for r6 though
normal bloom
blitz and clash should be 1 speed
normal bloom
fuck
astral dagger
yes.
astral dagger
it was on
carmine pier
F
astral dagger
I guess you can say that siege killed my pc now XD
frank compass
@astral dagger at this point in the game it would be very hard to go from top elo to competitive and be able to maintain your performance
key words: "at this point"
but that wasn't even what the point I originally brought up was revolving around
my point was: the fact the rank that is supposed to be considered "above average" (gold 2-plat 3) is still full of people who barely have 500 hours in game and dont understand 90% of how the game works is a joke
carmine pier
but average is deaf dumb and blind aljo
face facts
gold2-plat3 is above average
whether you like it or not 
carmine pier
just shat on this cheese stack
japanese teammates calling in japanese on westcoast servers nuts lmfao
frank compass
the fact that a bunch of shit players can get into high elo by simply communicating and monty pushing
is fucking sad
carmine pier
siege in crisis
lan move in the middle of the rona
cheaters galore
slow unfun stun meta
f
f f
frank compass
tbf
they decided the LAN move before corona
corona just really fucked over siege esports badly cause of timing
astral dagger
what he says about being a content creator and cheaters
it must be the most awful shit
ever
astral dagger
Damn
I feel bad I really wanted to go pro in this game and I was/am coming close
If ubi keeps making these changes idk if I can do it
It's not as fun as it used to be just like modigga says
can't stand the meta right now
And the amount of little bugs that cause me a round every single game are getting to me
People are right about valorant, it is a cs clone and its not new or inventive/unique but you can tell the devs are making all the right decisions and actually care about the competitive integrity of their game
I can only say the opposite of ubisoft
frank compass
mhmmmmm
Like Ive been dreading the fact that I missed out on basically a year of comp experience
due to 1 shitty decision
but now that I wouldve actually been able to play
and the game has taken this turn
idk
astral dagger
If you are at a certain level in comp all you need to boost yourself into T2/T1 is a trial or offer opportunity
Which are very hard to come by in my region
frank compass
mhmmmm
carmine pier
folks i shat on last dec trying to ego for trys lmao
astral dagger
I am at that level but Idk how much longer I can stick around with the state of the game, i have an opportunity in the next few weeks but if it doesn't go through I'm ditching the game probs
carmine pier
hope it comes through breh
astral dagger
One of the biggest kicks of dirt in comp players faces isn't even the bugs or shitty balance decisions but that they continually release broken skins in bundles and then esl has to ban them
It's like they are marketing directly to people who want a competitive advantage for money
At least that's how I see it
I'm fortunate not to run into many hackers
But that's part becuase I don't play much ranked and I'm also very lucky
I have friends who play cheaters regularly who have 6k elo and up
astral dagger
Idk how someone spinbotting and flying through the map can get top 10 champ rank and not be banned
frank compass
idk how someone under level 50 can get a 4.0+ KD, 10.0+ WL and not get banned
or at least suspended
astral dagger
Depends on the amount of ranked games played I guess
minecraft anti cheat can detect ppl running to fast
how cant battle eye do it
?
well aljo someone in our stack had a 5.8 kd for over 20 matches at the start of the season
on his smurf
astral dagger
and we also didnt lose any of those matches