#siege

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noble belfry
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Well if my math is correct, having calculated it its roughly around 72 ADS for holo match, and 41-42 ADS for ACOG

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but it varies a little bit depending on what FOV you use in game

frank compass
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Fuhsz is basically talking about focal length scaling

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which isnt 1:1

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it

noble belfry
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Yeah

frank compass
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it's visumotor

surreal cosmos
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corepads any good? ima get it over the gpw stock.

frank compass
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ye

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corepads are the same as hyperglides (in my experience)

surreal cosmos
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right thanks

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hyperglides sold out and missing center ring so

vivid jolt
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I just reuse my g-pro hyperglides on every mouse.

analog halo
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How long do they last for? Have had them for 3 months and starting to feel a bit more friction

frank compass
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like a year +

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I can compare a fresh set with the set on my fk2

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when my paracord for my S2 gets here

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but I dont notice a difference

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after 6-8 months of use

vivid jolt
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I've used mine for almost 2 years.

analog halo
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Maybe its the mouse pad

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might wash it

astral dagger
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I must have used my deathadder a lot then

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I remember when I upgraded the entire bottom of the mouse was like a mirror

stuck panther
normal bloom
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@noble belfry fov match is between 74 and 75

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for 1x

frank compass
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it's between 71-74 for 16:9 depending on FOV

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60 is 74

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90 is 71

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holo ofc

normal bloom
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90 is 81

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tested it the other day

frank compass
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for focal length?

normal bloom
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90 ads is the same zoom as 81 hip

frank compass
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huh

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Im saying

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for ADS values

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not for FOV

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I know holo on 90FOV is 81 when ads'd

normal bloom
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ah lol

frank compass
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Fuhsz was talking about focal length scaling

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focal length isnt 1:1

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it's visumotor

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ie your sens feels the same

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even the the cm/360 isnt the same

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it's a better version of 1:1 imo

normal bloom
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ye and thats how i got 74/75

frank compass
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yea

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depending on ur res

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it changes by a point or two

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because lower fov

normal bloom
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83.3 x .9 is 74.95

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ah

frank compass
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interesting way to do that

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I dont think that's fool proof tho

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because visumotor scales with fov

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it isn't static

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which kinda makes it a pain in the ass to work with

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if you want EXACT

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pixel by pixel

normal bloom
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ye mine isnt exact

frank compass
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not that it matters

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but I obsess over my sensitivity in siege

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so

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my shit is to the 4th sig fig

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on cm/360

normal bloom
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lol

radiant glen
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I currently have so-so aim (like above average for all casual fps players) and 2 hours playing siege. What should I do to get good enough that I can really enjoy playing with my friends who have thousands of hours playing siege specifically

lime wyvern
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I would recommend playing 75+ fov and playing thunt

radiant glen
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Which one is that?

lime wyvern
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Oh yeah uh it got renamed its now called like training ground or something

radiant glen
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And it's mostly just, atm, I feel like I'm being carried to the point that I'm stressing out my 4 teammates

astral dagger
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Probably becuase you are with 2 hours

inland lark
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does anyone keep getting server connection error in r6 these few days?

frank compass
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ive played 4 casual games total in the past 3 weeks

inland lark
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because of the error?

frank compass
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unrelated to what you said

inland lark
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oh ok

ocean jewel
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i've play like 5 ranked games in the past week

night radish
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I have @inland lark its annoying as fuck

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Also boys this season has been hot n colf

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Cold

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Lost like 12 of 15, then won 10 straight now ive lost 4 straight lol

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And im popping off in all of these

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Feelsbad

inland lark
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dammit man

astral dagger
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Got diamond on the main and then instantly lost it

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Got elo farmed 3 games in a row by pros on smurfs

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I wish elo gain/loss was at an average

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Why would I ever want to play more ranked after achieving my goal rank when I'm getting 20 elo a game and losing 60

frank compass
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bc they give you charm based on max and not final rank

astral dagger
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But the only reason you get to a certain rank is to show it off

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No one cares what your max elo was

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And people certainly don't find enjoyment out of high elo ranked

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At least that I know of

frank compass
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you show it off through the charm?

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like

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????

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no one cares about the difference between plat 1 and diamond

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champ v every other rank maybe

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plat 3 vs gold yes

vivid jolt
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Plat III is Gold.

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A Plat 3 is just a Gold who had a good day.

frank compass
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yes

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I know

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but theyre also the only ones who always care about their current rank

astral dagger
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No matter what rank you are unless you're champ I think you're a ranked star or bad without comp experience

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But that's becuase I played my share of comp

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But being diamond is a good card to have if you want to trial in a team

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Even though its worthless and everyone knows it

frank compass
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I mean

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usually

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teams will tab you

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if youre a no name

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and typically getting into comp as a no name

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is impossible anyways

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like you usually have recs or are friends with a friend or smth

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when youre trying out for serious teams

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Random thoughts:

  • The champion rank serves no purpose the way it currently functions, Id say it should just be given to the top 500 players by elo/region, but that might be too many and also cheaters would still heavily dominate that rank so it would still be meaningless
  • Plat 3 should be removed and the gap between gold 1 to plat 2 and plat 2 to plat 1 should be 500 elo
astral dagger
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The distance between all ranks should be 400

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Imo

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And an average 25 elo gain no matter how many games you play

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With change up to 15-45 elo gain

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Depending on who you play against

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No rank resets only seasonal charms for current seasonal rank

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Also add decay

astral dagger
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all that doesnt matter

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as long as we dont have seperate q's

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for solo/duo play

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or stacks

carmine pier
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wonder why so many people like to say plat 3 is like gold

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they seem intimately acquainted

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almost like they were playing in that elo hmm

astral dagger
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@carmine pier plat 3 players are pretty much terrible, they really are golds that are lucky

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I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between your average high gold and plat 3

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Since all that separates them is a few games

normal bloom
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so jolly plays like 9cm 1x

astral dagger
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well my siege friends i finally said fuck it and purchased a artisan zero :))

coarse valeBOT
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GG @astral dagger, you just advanced to level 16 !

astral dagger
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I'm going to invest in a hien medium

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I feel the xsoft is too slow

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I'm really new at this aim training thing, but for rainbow it's essentially clicking routines right?

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i feel the hien would be to fast i tried the thor and when i used it for a week before the glide wore out it was to fast

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get the soft hien

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mid maybe to fast

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i got soft zero

noble belfry
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I'm still waiting for my Artisan order

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Corona is a bad time to order stuff no surpise

normal bloom
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<20cm really takes its toll on the wrist

night radish
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I run 36 cm/360 and hien mid and it was insta gains

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Its not too fast for me at all

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And i take slight offense to the gold 1/plat 3 comment 😂

astral dagger
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just git gud

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lul

night radish
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Im havin a good individual skill season but not a good W/L season

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Highest MMR ive gotten is 3410

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And then -100 from cheaters

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And then 8 game losing streak lol

astral dagger
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ye shit happens

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i dont get shit back from cheaters

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ubi just doesnt care with the blatant ragers

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idk

surreal cosmos
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i just happened to watch get flanked video

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i have to agree with him

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couldnt they have AI analyze every1 stats?

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any1 with high kd/wl should instantly be red flagged for closer investigation

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yes i know there will be smurfs with 2kd, but i think a silver smurf with 2kd is different from a champion with 2kd

carmine pier
surreal cosmos
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u can look at kd/literally 20W/L ratios, 100% headshot ratios

astral dagger
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definitely

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nothing wrong

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with the game

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like at all

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ikr haha

astral dagger
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that flick on echo was beautiful

vivid jolt
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Noice.

vivid jolt
frank compass
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i actually agree with him

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the gun is awful and serves no purpose

astral dagger
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?????????????

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just click heads wtf

frank compass
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she has 2 primary rifles

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that are perfect for that

astral dagger
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this game isnt competitive at all

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so i rather click on heads

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and have fun

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idc

frank compass
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running around with pistols

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isnt enjoyable

astral dagger
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nomads pistol

frank compass
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no

astral dagger
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is literally the last thing

frank compass
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ela's pistol

astral dagger
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i care about

frank compass
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yes

astral dagger
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when talking about balancing

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there is so much shit

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i dont give a fuck

frank compass
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nomad's pistol is pointles

astral dagger
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if her pistol

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is of use

frank compass
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Im not talking about balancing

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Im just saying her pistol

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is ass

astral dagger
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yeah but atleast its fun

frank compass
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for bullet holes

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and nothing else

lime wyvern
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The gun could have a shield on it and he'd still complain so..

frank compass
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well

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thats another story

vivid jolt
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The pistol is excellent. It's the M1911 but with a higher bullet damage and the clearest optic in the game.

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It's literally just a regular high damage pistol but better.

normal bloom
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its beast on kaid

frank compass
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it isnt spammable

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therefore it is bad

mental snow
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that pistol is ass

frank compass
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thank you

mental snow
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dmg doesnt matter if you cant consistently chain shots with it

frank compass
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if you dont hit head on the first shot with it

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you arent killing anyone decent at the game

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it's better to think of it as a shittier version of the BB DMR when it had like 2 second recenter time, except you cant put a shield on it and it's drop off range is halved

mental snow
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its only good for trickshots lol u cant rely on it consistently

worn wagon
frank compass
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lol

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Kanto played kvks awhile back

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and only played tile frenzy

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unsurprisingly

normal bloom
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i cringed when i saw that

inland idol
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Who is Kantoraketti?

coarse valeBOT
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GG @inland idol, you just advanced to level 4 !

normal bloom
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beast player for g2

astral dagger
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in which century do we live

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that ppl still use aimtastic

frank compass
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I feel like every time I find myself in a discussion about r6 players and aim trainers I wanna repeat the same thing everyone already knows

vivid jolt
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Y'al suck then. I can chain shots with that pistol better than normal pistols because I can actually see through the sights.

frank compass
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it's kinda tiring the more I think abt it

vivid jolt
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It's just a DMR. Don't tell me you can't use the TCSG.

frank compass
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Toast you play in gold

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The TCSG has no recoil and no recenter time

astral dagger
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lmao

vivid jolt
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But a pistol does.

frank compass
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like it isnt even comparable to the god gun that is the TCSG

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yes??????

vivid jolt
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Ok.

frank compass
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they nerfed the nomad pistol into the ground

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after a month on live

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because it was broken on release

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no recoil instant recenter

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pistol w acog and dmr damage

astral dagger
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actually never used nomads rifles till they patched it

inland idol
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What thing do you always want to say in regard to aim trainers, aljo?

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Since I bet I don't know it.

frank compass
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"siege isnt aim based so siege players who use aim trainers always do it inefficiently then say it wasnt a good use of their time because they didnt actually improve"

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smth along those lines

astral dagger
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idk just click

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on ppl

frank compass
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when people shoot back

vivid jolt
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Imagine thinking shooting isn't vital in shooters.

inland idol
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Is it really not aim based? I know game sense and positioning are the more important things but I would say you still need good aim to get plat or above.

frank compass
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and your first shot isnt a headshot 100% of the time

astral dagger
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imagine having to practice clicking on stuff

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bots

frank compass
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that pistol sucks

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LOL

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you dont need good aim to get into plat

astral dagger
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plat is

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memes

frank compass
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plat is a shit show

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you dont even need good aim to get into diamond

inland idol
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Then how do people practice R6?

astral dagger
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?

inland idol
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Just play then?

astral dagger
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the fact that you dont depend on mechanics that much

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doesnt mean that it doesnt help

frank compass
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^

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like here

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you dont have to be able to aim to be a good player

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but if you are good at aiming it can make you a better player

inland idol
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I mean yeah it will help but how do you practice the other parts of the game?

frank compass
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does that make sense?

inland idol
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Yeah I understand that.

astral dagger
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being able to aim in a shooter is always beneficial

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lol

frank compass
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you practice most aspects of the game by just playing

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@astral dagger well ofc

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unless you wanna change around some files, inject a couple exes and then you dont need to be able to aim at any capacity!

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which at this point why not, it isnt like youll be getting banned anytime soon

astral dagger
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alrdy done that

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is bit boring

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atleast alone

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cheating with a mate or two laughing your ass off

snow marsh
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from perosnal experience, i play with a friend who has good aim but he just mindless frags everything. his game sense is like gold lvl tho but his aim carried him to plat 3 but anything after that, he'd get spanked cuz he lacks the brain juice

astral dagger
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isnt smth bad

frank compass
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plat 3 isnt hard

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to get

snow marsh
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tru

frank compass
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literally anyone

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can get plat 3

astral dagger
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"his gamesense is like gold lvl but his aim carried him to plat 3"

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good meme

frank compass
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the skill gap between gold 3 and plat 3 is small

astral dagger
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thinking gold and low plat

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isnt the same

frank compass
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the skill gap between low plat 3 and low plat 2 is massive

snow marsh
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but i only solo q cant get past plat 3 PepeHands

frank compass
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the skill gap between low plat 2 and mid plat 2 is almost as big

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like

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it's pathetic

astral dagger
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i think i solo q'd to mid plat 2 on 85% then i stop

frank compass
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yea

astral dagger
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cuz its a shit experience

frank compass
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mhmm

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randoms in plat

snow marsh
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my highest was like 2 szns ago

frank compass
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are fucking awful

snow marsh
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solo to plat 2

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randoms legit lack the chromosomes required to think

astral dagger
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soloing beyond plat 2 is the definition of cancerous

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thats why i dont go higher

frank compass
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my peak in recent memory was Phantom Sight with a 1.6 KD, 0.96 KPR, and 44% SRV because it was the last time I was actually able to grind the game

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my motivation to play the game

snow marsh
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on god

frank compass
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just plummets

astral dagger
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my mate had like 1.6kd and 2.4wr in diamond

frank compass
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every season

astral dagger
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was funny af

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at peak

frank compass
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yea

astral dagger
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when we ramked in in plat

snow marsh
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recently it pains me to click the game sometimes

astral dagger
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we got called out as cheaters

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the 5.8kd

frank compass
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I get really demotivated now when I dont hold >2.0KD in the first 10 games anymore

astral dagger
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on the smurf

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ye true aljo

frank compass
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but I dont play enough anymore

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to do that

astral dagger
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if i dont ftag

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it hurts

frank compass
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and the game isnt enjoyable to play

astral dagger
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true

frank compass
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like the more and more I think of it

astral dagger
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playing high ranks the gameplay itself isnt fun

frank compass
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this mightve been my last season playing seriously

snow marsh
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if i frag and try to communicate, but i get no comms or still lose for 5 straight games, i contemplate deleting

frank compass
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cause i legit find afk'ing in kvks more enjoyable than playing siege

astral dagger
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ye

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thats why i got

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my smurf

snow marsh
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on god

astral dagger
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to troll

frank compass
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and i only partially enjoy siege when I play with specific people

astral dagger
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i just farm salt

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on a separate acc

snow marsh
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same

frank compass
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I dont even like playing with my old friends/stack anymore

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cause i just find the experience to be miserable

astral dagger
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i play with one mate who is nuts

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and we just chill in bronze

frank compass
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I would love to just chill in bronze

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but like

astral dagger
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only fun i have with the game

frank compass
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I would hate myself

snow marsh
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remember when u didnt need a death stack to win games

frank compass
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mhmmmmm

astral dagger
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lmao last time i played with the death stack

frank compass
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remember when you didnt get a cheater at least 1/10 games?

astral dagger
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we were on a 17 games streak in plat

snow marsh
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i wish

astral dagger
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still wasnt fun

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XD

frank compass
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I like winning

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so that wouldve been at least partially fun

snow marsh
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word

astral dagger
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literally annoying af to sweat agains plats

frank compass
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meh

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if youre winning

astral dagger
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still

frank compass
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and not bottom fragging every game

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it isnt that bad

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if you bottom frag every game

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the sensation of winning

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gets old quick

snow marsh
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winning is just so refreshing cuz it makes you feel good bout yourself

frank compass
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and you just get frustrated at yourself

astral dagger
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nah they are just sweaty like they rly need the mmr

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you feel it

frank compass
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so the dopamine rush doesnt even help

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Yea

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ik what you mean

astral dagger
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and then you style on them

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trashtalk in chat

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lmao

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and they are fuming

snow marsh
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my fav part of solo q is when we're 4-4 and someone tk's because the other person told them to stay on sight

astral dagger
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bet you played with me

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xd

snow marsh
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xd

astral dagger
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i hate the new reflect dmg system

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so annoying when trolling

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but still totally useless

snow marsh
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but i feel like the worst thing is when you loading up ranked then get an error, but it puts u in a game that you cant reconnect to

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like thats just free lost elo and you cant do anything about it

astral dagger
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a classic

snow marsh
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and it sucks cuz its been a bug in the game for so long

astral dagger
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ye

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y1 bugs and shit still in

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cuz ubi patches on old versions

snow marsh
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sad

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very very non gamer

astral dagger
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I was reading and I agree nomad/kaid pistol is ass

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I would rather it with a 1x or no scope at all

frank compass
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so

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just an observation

astral dagger
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The recoil is 3x that of the tcsg and first shot is 2x the recoil of following shots making it harder even still

frank compass
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it seems all of the players who have played at a semi-high level say the pistol is ass

astral dagger
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I am also a tcsg main in comp if that means anything

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But I feel that when I'm out of ammo or forced to use the 50 auto I'm at a disadvantage at anything further than shotgun range

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I would appreciate a second pistol option of a revolver/1911

frank compass
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or just for the first shot recoil to not be so ass so you can actually land a followup shot beyond 6 m

astral dagger
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Yeah that would be nice

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But it's always good to have a close range option secondary

frank compass
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i mean it does have pr ok hipfire

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thats how Ive always used it since nerfs

astral dagger
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I just spam really hard and pull down from tcsg experience and you can chain shots but not consistently

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Most pros struggle with the pistol

frank compass
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I dont even feel like you need to pull tcsg down

astral dagger
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You really don't that gun has no recoil

frank compass
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yea

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its fun

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very fun

astral dagger
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It's similar to bucks recoil

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After learning it a bit

vivid jolt
frank compass
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yea

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bit of a yikes

worn wagon
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when she is coaching she is not casting community cups

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that means I am happy

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any1 wanna play something?

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winning is just so refreshing cuz it makes you feel good bout yourself
@snow marsh not how I feel in ranked. Thank god for BTR10s

astral dagger
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What's that? @vivid jolt

vivid jolt
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You can pay for egirls to play games with you.

worn wagon
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Wait

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No way

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Probs fake tho

vivid jolt
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Exodus about to spend his life savings.

worn wagon
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I might if she could be a non biased caster

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As if there was not enough reasons to dislike her

vivid jolt
worn wagon
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What score do you think is called: team a looked exceptionally week again team B?

short skiff
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yo im selling my r6 acc is dimaond and plat 2 last year w a 1.98 kd dm if u wanna buy

raw fox
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scumler we dont do that here

vivid jolt
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He tru.

astral dagger
vivid jolt
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!warn @short skiff Don't sell nor advertise selling accounts. Obviously.

coarse valeBOT
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scumler#0001 has been warned

Reason: Don't sell nor advertise selling accounts. Obviously.

vivid jolt
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Man Siege is such a punishing game to get back into after not aiming for a while.

worn wagon
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it is not about aim

astral dagger
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siege is a very hard game to get back into after not playing it

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i skipped playing for a week because i wanted to play doom and it took twice as long to not be trash when i came back

vivid jolt
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I don't want to hear that pussy ass argument. Every shooter is about aim.

astral dagger
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lol

normal bloom
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siege but no shooting

silk crane
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it is not about aim
@worn wagon

i'm with Toast on this one...a lot of that game has to deal with aim, along with a TON of game sense.

coarse valeBOT
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GG @silk crane, you just advanced to level 1 !

astral dagger
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so to get diamond rank i have to have 2 diamond scores on each type of aiming?

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track, switch and click

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cus i have most of my scores diamond level for click

noble belfry
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Yeah 2 of each its the new update

fathom moss
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how do you guys are able to move while leaning ?

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did you reverse the key ? Like you go right with D and lean right with Q ?

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or do you press D-E-W at the same time ? 😮

astral dagger
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If I lean and move right, D+E when I lean left A + Q

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And W is middle finger

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Middle finger moves off W when leaning and strafing

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Middle finger moves off W for Q+E

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But when moving forward pointer finger and ring finger move off A/D for Q/E

pale lark
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anyone down to play rank im 23 elo of gold one

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im new to pc

fathom moss
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but how do you go forward, right while leaning right ?

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you need to press 3 keys

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@astral dagger

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(never played r6 but killing people seems cool in this game)

astral dagger
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No only 2 keys at a time

normal bloom
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use toggle lean if you dont already

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ah dw read last comment

dawn coyote
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I just lost around 140 points in mmr adjustment

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this is making me tilted

pale lark
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anyone want to play rank im gold one im new to pc as well PM

frank compass
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With hold

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I lean by moving my middle finger to Q or E if I want to strafe

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or by moving my index for E or ring for Q if I want to still be able to move forward

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it's 100% easier to use Toggle tho as it requires no hand dexterity

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unless you're jiggle peeking w it

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I laughed way too hard at this

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@fathom moss use toggle lean

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not hold

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hold is more fun tho :<

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1 key less you need to press

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toggle is significantly easier tho

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and also generally better

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insane how the only 2 decent things in the patch notes

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is the scope for cav mp

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and goyo nerf

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and one of those

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is QoL

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so like

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is useless

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who cares

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it

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ye

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is

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QoL

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no one uses cav mp

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on a DOGSHIT operator

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who has

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an amazing shotgun

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anyways

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so like

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basically

frank compass
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fuming

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goyo nerf

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i am fuming

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goyo nerf

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but also

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is only decent change

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nades away from buck

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and trying

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and honestly 2 shields is still dumb strong

frank compass
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to buff ying back to blood orchid/white noise

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state

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and then a meaningless

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change to jager

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aahahahhaha

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mate of mine one tricked ying back then

frank compass
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i had a friend

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who played ying/lesion

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i remember him boosting 3 ppl to dia at the same time

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EXCLUSIVELY

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from White Noise

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hes insane tho

frank compass
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to like

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Grim Sky

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ahahha i also have a lesion main

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i am almost done with these shit changes\

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he was a Ps4 transfer

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and only started to change to different ops

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ugh

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after I told him

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he needed to actually

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try and get good at the game

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hurts

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now

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he plays Fuze

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and Monty

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this is

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a high plat player

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btw

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nah my mate is basically a god at every game

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like hes good at the game but holy shit

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always highest ladder rank in comp games he plays

frank compass
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does he just abuse

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shooters and mobas

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every crutch op

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leaderboards on mmorpgs and shit

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hes a grinder

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I wish

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I could grind a game

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for hours on end

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i genuinely dont know

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when the next time ill be able to do that

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will be

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nah like he doesnt rly grind a game

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hes just insanly

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talented

frank compass
#

hurls

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we are the gods

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of typing

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it's actually insane

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he literally was global cs, diamond siege, diamond league at the same time

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how much we inflate the number of msgs

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in this channel

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ye

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i

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global in CS

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always

frank compass
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diamond in siege

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not very hard

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go like zhis

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when diamond was highest rank

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I mean

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and he puahed 4 ppl at the same time

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it still is essentially

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the highest rank

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2 kd in diamond

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it's impressive

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isnt that easy

frank compass
#

it just isnt that hard

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if you

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are really dedicated

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not if you boost, makes it harder xd

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diamond takes no dedication and skill if you abuse the ladder

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well

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that too

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ye

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if you play legit from placements with the same squad it takes some skil

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5 stacks

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hahah

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but 99.99% of all people abuse the ladder

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imagine

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having a consistent squad

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to play with

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IMAGINE DESIGNING A COMP GAME AND NOT HAVING SEPERATE RANKED Q'S FOR SOLO AND SQUAD PLAY

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it is insane

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how dumb

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ubi is

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in fairness

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like literally handicapped

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most games

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devs

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dont have that

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like mobas

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are really the only games

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that have that

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mobas, i think ow too

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#

no

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OW has role queue

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and prioritizes

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there arent separate queues tho

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iirc

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i think they have role q now

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before they had solo q and stuff separated

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not sure

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idk

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but the thing is in siege its actually an issue

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Im pretty sure CS and Valorant

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and in mobas

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prioritize

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cuz the way it plays

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#

but the queues arent separate

#

mobas and OW are really the only games

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ye i think cs matches you gains stacks if you are in one

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where solo and squad queues can be separated

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easily

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#

?

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siege aswell

frank compass
#

because of defined roles

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if you have 5 ash mains

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solo q

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in ranked

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and you go up against like the rng solo queue stack

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#

well

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if you arent a dumb ash main yourself

frank compass
#

what im trying to say

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is that

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it's easier

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with games that have defined roles

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there is always a bigger chance for you to have the better team

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not that that matters

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solo/duo/trio and squad

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and yeah it also doesnt matter

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would be wonderful

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its literally the only thing ubi can do

#

to fix this shit

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no

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seperate ranked qs

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they need to do

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and harder ranks

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#

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO JAGER MOZZIE MY MAINS

frank compass
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a lot more than that

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to fix that shit

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siege is

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ye but its a start

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dead to me

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at this point

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the ranked system

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is a joke

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at this point

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I find no enjoyment watching or playing the game anymore

#

kinda sucks

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nah watching is fun

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rly enjoyed invitational

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#

JAGER - BUFF WAMAI LOWER HIS DMG
MOZZIE - REMOVE NITRO NOT REMOVE SHORTIE >:(

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ok it was in caps

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#

"lower his dmg"

frank compass
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No

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#

how low iq

frank compass
#

both of those

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#

are you

frank compass
#

are horrible

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wtf

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#

changes

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#

XD

frank compass
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Jager shouldve had

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an ADS

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taken away

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#

removed

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ye

#

only fix

frank compass
#

Mozzie shouldve had a pest

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#

yeah, which is similar to... buff wamai

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#

defenders have to much

frank compass
#

taken away

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utility

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they need to reduce the amounts

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Wamai shouldve also had a slower recharge

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on his gadget

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so hed have 4 instead of 5

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during a round

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#

i think they reduce mozzie shortie because of destruction not because of pest so its either nitro/shortie

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#

i know

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why they did it

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its just a shit change

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nitro taken away would be dumb

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nitro isnt an issue

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#

i mean yeah its the intel

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the thing is, mozzies gadget is mad broken but he also has a ton of. utility

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so they take away utility

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for some reason

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although the gadget is the main issue

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yeah the intel, but im saying if ubi takes the shortie for the removal of utility, ill rather nitro remove

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jager is just great gadget (so buff wamai), and lower dmg or something to "decrease" his roaming ability

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both are shit changes tho

#

the whole patch is garbage

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#

yeah i wouldnt agree with these changes either

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they already

#

lowered the dmg

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#

ik but didnt it do nothing

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#

that isnt going to change anything

surreal cosmos
#

r9 vid

frank compass
#

it did

#

affect

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#

nah buffing shit and giving even more to defense so another defender is picked less

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#

well

#

no

#

it didnt

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#

such a dumb way to balance

frank compass
#

except at range

#

cause most attackers are 2-2 anyways

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#

buff wamai = nerf jager

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#

??????

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buff wamai

surreal cosmos
#

or basically make a and d speed the same for all op

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#

= buff wamai

surreal cosmos
#

removes the "speed"

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#

buffing shit that is alrdy good cuz another op is picked to much

#

is so dumb

surreal cosmos
#

only shift w has the increase in 'speed' between 1 and 3 speeds

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why patch like that

#

are you stupid

surreal cosmos
#

?

frank compass
#

thats just wrong

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you are literally dumping even more utility on the defender side which is the main issue

surreal cosmos
#

buff wamai = nerf jager....

frank compass
#

solar

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you are nerfing in a way

#

that makes the issues with the meta

surreal cosmos
#

u add 1 wamai to wamai and remove 1 jager = buff wamai nerf jager

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#

more exaggerated

astral dagger
#

buffing something to nerf something else if they are both defense

frank compass
#

that is

astral dagger
#

you jsut fuck the meta

frank compass
#

a horrible change

#

like quite possibly

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#

which is alrdy that yiu just pick jager and wamai

frank compass
#

one of the worst changes

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#

its so dumb

#

to say that

surreal cosmos
#

wait so then why isnt those good

#

the meta is def utility

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#

get flanked level balancing recommendations

frank compass
#

ok

surreal cosmos
#

so, if u balance utility, its good

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#

THE META ON DEFENSE IS FORCING THE ENEMY TO DUMP THEIR UTILITY

frank compass
#

buffing wamai

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doesnt

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#

so if you buff wamai

frank compass
#

balance utility

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#

they pick both

frank compass
#

like

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#

IT DOESNT NERF JAGER

surreal cosmos
#

u add 1 wamai to wamai and remove 1 jager = buff wamai nerf jager

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#

Club and Kafe

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#

you JUST DO BOTH

frank compass
#

are two of the worst maps rn

#

and theyre also the easiest

#

to bring Wamai+Jager on

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and Mute+Mozzie on

#

depending on site

#

they also have the best goyo setups

coarse valeBOT
#

GG @frank compass, you just advanced to level 29 !

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#

it is either drone denial or utility dump for defense meta

frank compass
#

^

astral dagger
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both is fucking aids btw

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bruh if u add wamai and remove jager the utility would be the same... but jager will be nerfed and wamai buffed

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#

no fun in that

frank compass
#

Wamai buffs

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are bad

#

jager nerfs

surreal cosmos
#

exactly, remove 1 pest, 1 mute, and ash/zofia should get more charges. or something

frank compass
#

are good if done correctly

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the devs

#

did not do it

surreal cosmos
#

thatsa what i said wayy before

frank compass
#

correctly

astral dagger
#

wamai is alrdy rly good defender

#

like rly rly good

frank compass
#

Wamai needs a nerf

#

not a buff

surreal cosmos
#

wait actually

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#

yes

#

hes fucking broken in comp lineups

surreal cosmos
#

ive never seen a wamai so ill buff wamai nerf jager to balance em but

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#

its so hard

#

to bring flashbangs

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#

not enough people for separate q

frank compass
#

in the current meta

surreal cosmos
#

oh for comp

frank compass
#

Well you see

#

I balance around comp

#

because balancing around casuals

#

is fucking stupid

#

and such a shit design philosophy

astral dagger
#

cuz ppl dont play the game the way it is intended anyway in ranked

frank compass
#

that the devs have decided on

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#

why even bother about it

frank compass
#

^

#

even at high levels

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#

nah aljo

frank compass
#

people play ranked like monkeys

surreal cosmos
#

i know we had this talk before, comp > casual because in ranked diamond stats, smoke is a shit op

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#

GOD

#

MONKEYS

#

IS SUCH A STUPID WORD

astral dagger
#

THE DEVS DECIDED ON BALACING BASED ON PICK RATE

frank compass
#

WHY

#

ISNT IT IES

surreal cosmos
#

lmao

astral dagger
#

who does that???????

frank compass
#

devs

#

who have no comprehension

#

or understanding

#

its like gold teams

#

emulating pro strats

#

they know it might work

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#

fucking balancing after pick rate

#

like wtf

frank compass
#

but they dont know WHY

#

it works

astral dagger
#

are you doing

frank compass
#

and they dont care WHY it works

#

it's a complete inability to comprehend how their own game functions

surreal cosmos
#

i agree that balacing around cas players is bad

#

the win delta chart thing for DIAMONDS show that smoke is ass

#

hm

astral dagger
#

XD

#

BUFF SMOKE

surreal cosmos
#

4 smoke canisters!!!

frank compass
#

a smoke buff

#

wouldnt even be bad

#

like its not a good idea

#

but it wouldnt be detrimental

#

I never thought

#

I would say that

#

but at this rate

#

buffing smoke into a must pick so a utility heavy op is removed from the def lineup

surreal cosmos
#

4 goyos!!!

frank compass
#

might not even be that bad

astral dagger
#

its unnecessary

frank compass
#

Im not saying it is necessary

astral dagger
#

idk what hurts more, actually playing the game or looking at whaz ubi does

#

it hurts my brain

#

just like 200% of all ubis balancing changes since grim sky

frank compass
#

im just saying its not as bad as what they are currently doing

#

well

#

Id say

#

Parabellum

#

cause thats when Echo was given a second drone

#

and teammates could control it

astral dagger
#

XD

surreal cosmos
#

i think this is the more recent chart

#

smoke buff, goyo buff

frank compass
#

yea

#

fuck

#

ubisoft

#

oh my god

astral dagger
#

WARDEN GREAT ADDITION TO THE GAME

#

gj ubi

frank compass
#

Warden was

surreal cosmos
#

somehow kapkan > goyo

frank compass
#

a year late

astral dagger
#

put more resources into that development department

frank compass
#

Ive talked to people

#

who played Warden during his initial play testing

#

and Warden was great

#

but they released him a year after he was necessary

#

so now hes useless

astral dagger
#

now we have

#

oryx

frank compass
#

like when smg12 was good

astral dagger
#

who is worse

#

than tachanka

surreal cosmos
#

warden either needs a total rework or buff blitz as fuck lol

frank compass
#

and glaz meta existed

#

Warden was amazing

#

Im not even kidding

#

like S tier operator

surreal cosmos
#

tachanka is good when he comes out

frank compass
#

Tachanka is overpowered

surreal cosmos
#

well idk

frank compass
#

when he comes out

surreal cosmos
#

he has 5 things

#

and last prob 8s?

#

smoke goyo tachanka jager maestro

frank compass
#

he essentially has a smoke launcher

#

a gun that can destroy walls

#

is an LMG

#

and prob no recoil

surreal cosmos
#

but isnt his gun ass

frank compass
#

its a fucking

#

LMG

surreal cosmos
#

wait is his only gun lmg or is there another one

frank compass
#

with perfect wall destruction

surreal cosmos
#

doesnt it shoot super slow

frank compass
#

it doesnt matter

#

650ish rof

#

and prob 43+ dmg

surreal cosmos
#

its 650?

frank compass
#

assuming they nerf

#

current

surreal cosmos
#

it sounds so much lower..

frank compass
#

and dont just use his mounted stats

astral dagger
#

prob feels like ying lmg

#

to use

frank compass
#

^

#

with god utility

#

like

#

actually so stupid

surreal cosmos
#

imagine the strats

#

u can bounce fire nades

#

so ure never exposed

surreal cosmos
#

how many bounces?

frank compass
#

I love

#

Saltti

#

and GL memes

#

holy shit

#

They have the same bounce functionality as Zofia's concussions

#

so 1-2 bounces

#

depending

astral dagger
#

lmao those are rly good

#

xd

frank compass
#

or at least that is what it looked like

astral dagger
#

a mate of mine told me that he got in cl

#

all the words i had for him were

#

how do you even play without throwing up ?

frank compass
#

who is your mate?

surreal cosmos
#

oh

astral dagger
#

nah its the benelux cl

frank compass
#

oh ohoh

#

Benelux still better

#

than 90%

#

of T3 comp

astral dagger
#

true

#

hes decent

#

i mean

#

last go4 i played was with a 12 yo bulgarian

#

on my team

#

xd

frank compass
#

this is actually painfully true

#

so many

#

shit decisions

#

have led us here

#

pain

#

my friend is a coach for Joe in NA CL

#

he's having a mental breakdown rn

#

remember when the siege devs

#

said they wouldnt be doing mid season reinforcements anymore?