shaiiko played T1 comp back then
#siege
worn wagon
and quote of ziron1c after he held his own against T2-T3 teams in some league quals as a PU for a polish team: "You don't forget how to play comp"
So.. Just continue looking @astral dagger
Emphasise your will to win
if you trial with someone and you like them - add them, play ranked with them, tell them you can sub etc
and I legit won't belive you can get to CL level by just playing ranked
100% no EU CL level
idk if NA is a joke in T3 but that's how it works in EU
So LFT, trial and add people and play with them if they are good
Also
In every team
ask for feedback
even if you think they are dumb, consider their opinion
for a second
For example even ppl like Next1
who are "radnys"
or BakaBryan
Have a shitton of comp exp
Also
When I had my academy(most ppl were low plat with no comp exp)
We scrimmed GamerLegion(Had a promising roster of Rotko4, Draven, Namea, Iqorex etc + morxzas who coached PL for a long time as a coach + an org)
And after that Namea came to voice with us and discussed stuff
Like mistakes etc
FYI Namea played on Edenity(Became Empire), Outplayed(+ PG Nationals LAN), Goskilla Poland iirc(+ MVP of Polish Masters League Lan), CrowCrowd(And got smacked at most recent Russian Major League LAN)
And even he said that a team of that caliber gets so much more from 1-2 maps vs a good team
And that even that low plat team needs not GL caliber teams but PL caliber
Direct quote
astral dagger
@worn wagon its my strong belief that until you have the mechanical skill and game knowledge to contend comfortably in diamond that you arent ready for comp
u18 and teams that dont contend in cl quals at least are not worth your time
or teams that consist of mediocre plat players
astral dagger
if you are a plat you wont have the game knowledge, mechanical skill or team coordination to play comp
worn wagon
- in EU you have Nordic, Polish, Italian champs which are 16+
astral dagger
but you cant go into esl cups
or leagues
which is where anything worth your time is made
worn wagon
as I said
idk about na
but in EU you need a lot of comp exp to win even ESA Contenders
not even talking about PG Nats or Nordic or Polish masters
astral dagger
i think playing in plat teams or inexperienced teams will only be of worse benefit than grinding ranked
you need to be a good individual player to contend when things dont go to plan
thus, soloq to diamond
astral dagger
yeah its frustrating, but i did it and i think it made me a much better player
fabian doesnt try and soloqs
worn wagon
he does
worn wagon
far beyond the point anyways
astral dagger
idk why fabian struggles since i have been able to make it to diamond multiple seasons by just duoq and soloq
astral dagger
macie was able to soloq to diamond and he is not near fabian in terms of skill
worn wagon
that's na /s
astral dagger
fabian admits to not sweating for ranked
worn wagon
anyways
most ppl in eu strat comp in plat range, to get into any half decent team you need comp exp
and ranked is just aim + agression which is useless in proper comp
and comp is so much more
astral dagger
well peric says he plays with random idiots and cant climb rank, i think he wants to play comp? i say grind ranked soloq or whatever until you hit diamond or can compete at that level then look into comp
worn wagon
well, good teams do exist
yes, you'll search for a long time
but proper comp exp is so much better then ranked
and peric also has really decent aim for siege
so idk what's the point of ranked
astral dagger
aim will only get you so far, for example my aim is below average
for even rainbow six players who barely practice
worn wagon
yes
ik
but what I am saying is that with his aim he can probs get to PL and stand his own if he plays smart
he can defo hold his ground against dia players
astral dagger
i dont know what level he is at, but my advice to him is grind until you can get dia, and then find a team that is high t3 or a sub position in t2
worn wagon
legit dunno how you get to T2 from ranked
like I cannot even imagine taht
well
for scrims you need a team
blows my mind
and T2 is CL, right?
worn wagon
blows my mind
astral dagger
but pugs in my region are generally shit
worn wagon
in EU you'll have a very very very hard time getting into T4 league teams without exp
well idk
we here have Minor WInner Liven as IGl not staying in cl
you there get to CL from ranked...
astral dagger
but my advice is grind ranked until you are a competent individual player, then after that work on comp teamwork
but if you think you really need scrim experience join a random team, but my opinion is you wont learn much
idk how eu is compared to other regions
so you may do it differently
worn wagon
well thing is
like teams that are way below national level
so basically t4
still play proper stuff
and we have a shitton of leagues n stuff
astral dagger
my ideology is you can always play ranked, but you can only scrim once every day or two
worn wagon
thing is, you scrim 5v5 with strats and communication and it's a different game
and if you do even two maps 4 times per week
with vod review, criticism etc cuz the conditions for improvement are near perferct
you improve a lot
cuz you see how every decision impacts the rounds
in ranked you have 4-0s and 0-4s, you have rounds where teammates carry, you have rounds where you kill everyone, no one is holding anything... quality of practice is lower
You get on, you play outback, then sky, then villa but opponents are weak, then you get 4-0d by a sus guy on bank and rolled over 4-2 by a fullstack on consulate, then you lose to monkey ppl holding angles outside for 2 minutes and abusing lion and here you are with 5 proper rounds in god knows how many games
I'd put 1 map vs T1-T2 (EU) above 20 ranked games or even 50
astral dagger
hmm, when i play ranked proper strats and coordination are employed
just like scrim
but less serious
with more room to be an individually skilled player
i think messing up and paying the price of death or loss in ranked teaches you by your mistakes quicker than someone telling you it but scrim and ranked are just as useful
coarse valeBOT
GG @astral dagger, you just advanced to level 7 !
worn wagon
IDK.. for me scrims>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pugs>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ranked... even fullsweat duoq doesn't resemble comp... people in plat2 don't know which walls to reinforce lol
people in ranked still reinforce walls from inside on club church or villa statuary
astral dagger
ranked for me is purely mechanical and individual skill training
you dont learn mechanical or individual skill in scrim or comp since you play it so little
and thunt barely works since bots dont move
worn wagon
that's the thing, mechanical skill is mostly aim... and individual skill for me is pure brain so that's where you need scrims conditions
to communicate, adapt etc
astral dagger
i mean stuff like knowing when to push, knowing when to secure a kill, knowing when to drone when to flank, knowing if the enemy knows where you are etc
that stuff comes with a TON of game experience
worn wagon
when to drone?
astral dagger
but you cant play scrim all day
worn wagon
well
astral dagger
or get on drones in a room with a pulse or valk below
worn wagon
in comp you never walk alone + always ask for cover and wait for a answer
vivid jolt
No point complaining about playing matchmaking games. You have to do it unless you’re lucky enough to be on a T1 PL team and somehow can scrim for 8hrs a day every single day... which can’t happen.
You need matchmaking to keep you playing and putting you in in-game situations. It’s not pointless or else no one would do it. Crazy how the best individual players in the game play the most ranked?
vivid jolt
Also Rogue disbands.
sand lotus
astral dagger
rouge disbanded? when was this and why?
astral dagger
Because NA doesn't know how to keep a roster
vivid jolt
Coach went to Evil Geniuses. Shuttle was kicked, Slash went to Luminosity. Ecl9pse went to Dark Zero and Vert went to Rec. Easilyy would be the only one left so they disbanded.
What I want to know is what’ll happen to their next wave of Pro Team skins since they’re already done and have Rogue on them even though they aren’t a team anymore?
Just don’t release it or have it be awkward?
sand lotus
vivid jolt
worn wagon
astral dagger
damn, looks like i've missed quite a bit
vivid jolt
Aaaand that’s why nobody regards Meepey as even remotely close to one of the best individual players out there..
carmine pier
if you can scrim for 5 hours a day
great
if you can't, 5 hours of ranked is better than nothing
ranked is good for individual play if you need to stay sharp
i scrim vs champ ranked rankstars and i barely play anymore
they're not impressive
vs'ing challenger stacks in ranked can only be a good thing though..ymmv
raw fox
where do you think Easilyy is gonna go?
astral dagger
I think one of the issues with NA is
that they dont actually play the game outside of scrims
most of the pros never really grind ranked, they do their scrim games and thats it
vivid jolt
Idk man... Easilyy is experienced but he didn’t have a great showing this year. He’ll probably be a pickup for a bottom team (or top CL) next season.
Also...
I don’t understand half of these changes.. Like who asked for most any of this?
https://www.reddit.com/r/R6ProLeague/comments/e21xr7/year_4_season_4_preseason_designers_notes/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I mean most of them aren’t bad but... Could you nerf or buff something USEFUL? (excl. Kaid and Jackal changes)
mental snow
pro community: every single one wants goyo nerfed
what we get: cav buff
warm girder
Honestly they might have broken glaz again
That yellow might pop with digital vibrancy cranked up
raw fox
all i want is the Buck elite.
astral dagger
buck elite for buckshot
@mental snow you here too, nice. Saw your latest video, good stuff
mental snow
thanks man
astral dagger
loved the kg clip, i guess i once linked it to you when i saw it in some streamhighlight thing ?
btw atleast you upload in decent quality
vivid jolt
Dude I’m really sorry but I absolutely cannot stand Meme George.
astral dagger
no one asked for a cav buff
redditors asked for bosg acog
no on asked for a kaid buff, he is in a good place rn as it is
warden c4 seems fair enough
idk what they did with glaz but he is as strong as he should be already
and ela shotgun nerf i can agree with
but its not the guns which make ela powerful, its her bs gadget
honestly some changes i am wanting are: increased sound for shift walking and crouch walking as a 2 and 3 speed
tcsg12 nerf
to firerate or damage
maestro alda nerf
to firerate, damage or ammo
mental snow
i want ela gun buff gadget nerf
vivid jolt
Whoever decided that affecting your sensitivity is a good idea for a gadget needs to be shot.
You know they’ve never placed higher than Silver II.
astral dagger
norarengo fav weeb shit
glacial solstice
vivid jolt
Doubtful, man.
Their new player Cryn was their 5th option.
He wasn’t the player they wanted. They dropped Goga thinking they could get anyone but 4-5 other teams or players rejected them first.
If G2 wins this I’ll eat dirt.
carmine pier
Liquid takes it
vivid jolt
I think they’ll underestimate BDS.
Liquid hasn’t been hot at all past couple seasons.
astral dagger
ngl i know goga didnt have the best season when he got dropped, but damn after that the team syngergy between g2, dont know what happend, or its just that everyone else in NA, EU just caught up
G2 made a dumbass decision just like obey did
carmine pier
The gap between g2 and the rest has closed that's all
astral dagger
Goga is one of if not the best support player to ever touch this game, and has been so for 3 years. Dunno why they would ever drop him
ikr
carmine pier
There's no definitive number one in EU right now and g2 wants to recreate what is frankly impossible
astral dagger
yeah,
carmine pier
Liquid on lan is nasty, they just haven't made it there recently
astral dagger
Goga joins Vodafone giants and takes a dump on G2 is my bet
carmine pier
Giants already dumped on g2 after losing uumo lol
astral dagger
It would be nice to see an actual statement as to why goga got dropped
carmine pier
Nevet ever in any region
astral dagger
team decision like bruh
carmine pier
They want more fraggers
astral dagger
Yes, let us drop the best support player in EU, very cool
Fraggers don't get the bomb down
ikr
And planting wins the round
carmine pier
Empire and navi kept beating them and they have fragger..
astral dagger
Then drop kanto and uuno for better fraggers
carmine pier
Eh. Everyone has to.gun, bottom line
astral dagger
lmao
carmine pier
G2 doesn't have 5hat clout
What team currently beating g2 with their fraggers
Would hand their fraggers to g2 for worse players
Like
astral dagger
bruh
carmine pier
Crynn 5th choice LOL
astral dagger
I'm sure G2 would pay more than navi or empire
Which is what gets players to join an org
carmine pier
Otf
astral dagger
I never heard anything about 5th choices or denied roster changes
astral dagger
oof, 5th?
astral dagger
damn, g2 seems desperate
what was he gonna say about Joonas being dropped for a personal issue?
Because they can't compete with teams like navi, empire or soon to be bds
as they are now currently,
what would you think if they didnt change the roster since dropping joonas?
carmine pier
Joonas had an entirely different philosophy on how to approach siege going forward when they first started to fall off
astral dagger
ah
Well let's see if G2 makes a comeback with their roster change
Stupid decision imo
yeah i wouldnt call it the wisesest, goga hands down is probs the best support player i've ever seen
carmine pier
Throwing more firepower at a fundamentally inadequate approach to the game won't bear fruit
coarse valeBOT
GG @carmine pier, you just advanced to level 5 !
astral dagger
yeah true that
carmine pier
Empire supports are better
astral dagger
They think that having more fraggers will benefit them, but fraggers won't get kills when there are no opportunities being given to them to get kills by their support players
You don't just win if you have 5 kantos
true, it needs to be balanced
carmine pier
Support is more than droning
astral dagger
imo before joonas was dropped they had a pretty balanced team
astral dagger
If anyone was to be dropped from G2 it should be fabian imo
carmine pier
Gifu
astral dagger
Instead of goga
vivid jolt
You can absolutely win with 5 Kantos. They just can’t all play like Kanto.
carmine pier
yep
astral dagger
Well kanto plays like kanto, so what you said doesn't really make sense
would that be kanto if they all dont play like kanto
astral dagger
i know kanto is supposed to be mainly a fragger , whats fabian? a flex? or would that be pengu
People are starting to realise all you need is one hard support
Everyone else can pick and choose their ops depending on the situation
vivid jolt
Pengu will be flexing with UUNO or Cryn, Fabian will be hard supporting, Kanto and UUNO/Cryn will be entry.
vivid jolt
My guess.
astral dagger
Rarely tho
carmine pier
Kanto played maestro on Kafe and got dogwalked
vivid jolt
Anybody can flex. If you can’t flex then you suck at the game.
astral dagger
valid point
carmine pier
pretty much
astral dagger
@vivid jolt difference between flex and being very very good at your role
carmine pier
Specialists are important
vivid jolt
A flex is just a support who plays with more aggressive gun skill. A flex is just a fragger who lets go of W for a couple seconds and holds an angle for a minute.
carmine pier
But you have to be decent at everything
astral dagger
Sure a no brain ash main like kanto or uuno even could flex but that doesn't mean they would be a good thermite or montagne
vivid jolt
That’s not a flex. That’s a hard support op.
carmine pier
Nothing no brain about kanto and Juno
vivid jolt
You won’t put your flex/fraggers on the hard breachers.
carmine pier
Differences in roles Is more of a mindset thing than skill
astral dagger
It depends since you don't always run double hb
astral dagger
@carmine pier no brain compared to goga or fabian even
carmine pier
Just shoot the pellets it's not hard
Once again
You cannot play frag at a high level with no brain
I team with a guy who drops 20bombs on decent teams
astral dagger
Ctzn says himself he doesn't need his brain when he has his supports live droning for him
carmine pier
Hes in the negatives against good teams while I'm positive on thermite lol
astral dagger
nutty
You just need to know where the person is, and then shoot them. Brain turns on when you don't have supports or are in clutch
vivid jolt
There’s a different between active game sense and natural instinctive sense of how to play.
Double live droning isn’t a puzzle to solve and doesn’t need big brain plays, but you can’t expect them to not fight back or just be able to run in there. You have that learned game sense that you need to rely on to capitalize on it.
carmine pier
Positioning is very important
astral dagger
incredibly important
carmine pier
Swing on a so called free kill and get to your head took off lmfao
astral dagger
DoNt PuSh hE hAs A aNgLe
carmine pier
Some teams also don't set up to counter hard defensive holds that disable entries
In which case droning doesn't really help
You also have to actively facilitate your entry
Which a lot.of drone mains don't do
astral dagger
Hard defensive holds with op angles aren't broken through gunskill alone, it's the support and flex players job to open up opportunities to get kills
Entry fraggers usually roam clear unless it's a site turtle with 5 people on site, in which case its just gunskill to clear roamers with support of drones
carmine pier
Depends on where those roaders are..
If there's vertical pressure
You can't just drone and clear some shit
astral dagger
Why not?
For consulate for example, it's common practice to clear from admin or ceo down to clear roamers out of the flanks, which is done by the fraggers. But fraggers can't just walk into site without opportunities opened by support players or info from support players
Unless they have found a weak point in the site preparation, which is usually discovered by a support player on info
I don't think G2 understands how important it is that opportunities and info are gained by players like goga, getting the bomb planted is a bonus compared to that
vivid jolt
MIBR is the highest elo team in EU...
astral dagger
I don't know of any team that 5 stacks ranked lol
carmine pier
Meanwhile in NA
astral dagger
I wish there were more players in high elo, it seems you just play the same 15 people over and over in ranked
coarse valeBOT
GG @astral dagger, you just advanced to level 8 !
vivid jolt
carmine pier
i solo que
vivid jolt
carmine pier
Navi vs darkzero was the most boring match of the final
astral dagger
Wc vs navi was the best
vivid jolt
Rec choked, IMO.
Rec could’ve taken NaVi absolutely.
NaVi looked so shaky the entire tourney until the Finals.
worn wagon
I skimmed through the discussion above
And really the thing is
There are no roles in top tier player anymore
Sinse the season started being 6 month long and the ops started getting delayed
All teams caught up to the strategic side
And overall the game shifted towards a more frag heavy approach
So a lot of players fell back
You need to be very flexible and you need to have a tonn of firepower to compete at the highest level
And in top tier teams, yes, there are preset roles, but everyone will do anything if the situation requires it
If you look at it, Kanto is flexible with Uuno taking his ops, and all 3 of Fabian, Uuno and Pengu are very vocal players who can IGL and are also insanely flexible and can excel at nearly any role
Same with Empire
Or Forze
Or BDS
vivid jolt
The moment people realize that understanding strategy and gamesense to the highest level is expected and second nature, and that shooting is priority in a shooter game as well as chemistry is priority in a team game... That’s the moment when we have more G2 / Astralis teams.
To be the best and stay the best you need to be the best at everything. Strats, Aim, and Teamwork. No exceptions.
worn wagon
A lot of G2s dominance, especially early one was 2 things: best coach period and the ability to buy out best players
vivid jolt
Not true. Penta didn’t have that kind of money to buy players that easily at all.
Also https://twitter.com/siege_gg/status/1200338178177036288?s=21
boreal jasper
@astral dagger Empire 5 stacks rank loads lmao
I have probably played them at least 40 times as a 5
astral dagger
huh in my region no pro team stacks ranked
i may see like 1 or 2 in the same game
but never a 5
boreal jasper
Which reigon are you in?
i know that DZ 5 stacks in Na
I think liquid stack on brazil servers
at least I've seen them do it on sexycakes stream
vivid jolt
NA just moshpits whoever with whoever in Ranked.
torn crater
Did you guys reach Champion this season?
vivid jolt
....Nah I went easy on 'em.
torn crater
Main is on 4,5k mmr rn and still getting 70 points on it and I thought bout going for champ,worth the grind?
coarse valeBOT
GG @torn crater, you just advanced to level 2 !
carmine pier
just didnt have it in me this season
all my siege hours to scrims
maybe next season
astral dagger
peaked at plat 3 before i took a break kms
il get back into it and then try aiming for plat 2 one day
ez
astral dagger
damn, solo que expirience is tough :P
carmine pier
its how i got my last 3 diamonds
astral dagger
how'd you get that far solo que? i found it difficult to solo to plat 3
carmine pier
just gotta be on my P's and Q's as an individual
astral dagger
ezier said then done
astral dagger
same, i've taken a break from playing the last two seasons due to schedule time constraints and just general burn out from games, hopefull i can get back on the grind
carmine pier
its supposed to be fulfilling
don't forget that
anyway, to succeed in solo
just fill in the blanks with your team
if you can aim thats good, if not just spray head level you can succeed anyway
drone things out, give callouts
if you can't drone enough just play doki
on defense, make sure the right shits reinforced and kill them
astral dagger
aggresive deep roam? or just near site?
carmine pier
depends on the map tbh
i just play below with pulse, on villa for example
prep window for the 90 runout
you can give folks the runaround if they try to push you
spend more time
astral dagger
yeah lmao
carmine pier
def, i don't really ever play site on villa tho
astral dagger
yeah,
btw
how do you normally hold snowmobile garage?
quite abit of matches i've played, most the team stays down stairs in the garage holding site
and maybe have one roamer up top
carmine pier
yeah just let them do their own thing
mozzie is a good way to go
catch a drone, open vertical over the site to deny plant from above
set your drone next to a blind spot to make sure you're not getting challenged from somewhere uptop
reinforce off the other blindspots
if catching a drone is tough run valk instead
i have a hard time seeing the smaller angles some time though
astral dagger
👍
carmine pier
once you hit plat2 you can do things like ask your team to cover a cam for you
and not have them lie through their teeth about it
makes it easier
carmine pier
no
it and themepark are gone
new kanal in
is there a new map on the tts?
havent even played it
astral dagger
same, plan on giving the tts a try tho if its still up tommorow
carmine pier
new themepark is on tts yes
coarse valeBOT
GG @carmine pier, you just advanced to level 6 !
carmine pier
it'll return next season
astral dagger
ah cool
well, cant wait to hop back in and see how rusty i've gotten since last playing lmao
carmine pier
play anything else?
astral dagger
hmm, as of games not much no, abit of overwatch and some call of duty mordern warefare, but didnt play much besides siege
wbu
astral dagger
oh i've been meaning to play outerworlds, is it anything similar to fallout new vegas?
carmine pier
feels like new vegas in space
astral dagger
ah thats dope
carmine pier
and i mean that in the best way possible
astral dagger
damn
carmine pier
couldnt beat the dlc shit kept freezing
astral dagger
xD
carmine pier
when i first got my ps3 in 09..
got fallout 3 knowing nothing about it
i was just getting all the games i heard about while i was on ps2 and wii
played that shit for 24hours straight lmao
never experienced anything like it
astral dagger
gud shit
i personally loved fallout 3 ngl,
legit spent countless hours on it
i didnt think i would like games where you go to point A, then point B, and so on and so forth, but new vagas and fallout 3 didnt make it feel like a chore
which is why i loved them so much, same with skyrim imo
carmine pier
skyrim was only decent to me
fallout 3 was just amazing to me at the time, doesn't really hold on replay though
astral dagger
yeah
carmine pier
new vegas has such great world building and dialogue, thats what makes it great
the atmosphere and the context of the deeds
without that its just borderlands with worse gunplay
see: fallout 4
and even borderlands has better writing that 4
astral dagger
yeah wasnt a huge fan of fallout 4 either tbh
like the whole main plot
the writing of it
paled in compariosn to new vegas
astral dagger
yes
dont worry this break is gonna automatically boost me to ascended level of aiming
by not training actively, i am training
200iq
carmine pier
never hit diamond?
carmine pier
next to hitting diamond in this discord it is
to be fair i could've been diamond ages ago
but it feels illegitimate if i cant hit pattarget , close fs and 1w6t
astral dagger
i thought all the scenarios were the same in difficulty?
carmine pier
not to me lol
carmine pier
1050
astral dagger
small?
carmine pier
yea
astral dagger
ah, wbu TE?
carmine pier
167 on TE
astral dagger
o
damn
ngl, after i while in other games kinda noticed that playing on a 55cm/360 is way too slow, so i might drop it down
carmine pier
i run 33 hip, 40 ads in siege
astral dagger
dpi?
carmine pier
800
astral dagger
ah, have you tried playing with a 1:1 ads? of 83 hipfire and 83 ads?
astral dagger
ah yeah, fov makes it appear faster
i tried playing with acog 1:1 with ads, but cause of the fov difference between ads and hipfire, it felt soo much faster when adsing with acog and felt weird
big oof
carmine pier
it's controllable def
i've fragged out 27-42 cm
im just on 33 40 atm
change weekly about
only smooth shot i've hit today
mental snow
vivid jolt
Get that 1wall6 flick.
astral dagger
didnt need to do em like that
astral dagger
whats his score?
vivid jolt
If I just stay consistent I can no question hit 139/140. :/
astral dagger
i bet if you grinded it everyday then it would easily be reachable
astral dagger
what change?
vivid jolt
Smaller.
astral dagger
shit, if a small variant exists, zeeks wants to know your location
mental snow
i prefer small variants too, if i could i would steal zeeq's vrt from him
boreal jasper
I use 4:3 on rainbow six, and am unsure weather i should use 4:3 or 1:1 on Kovaacs
Some people have said that siege uses 1:1 for fovs, so im unsure what i should use
coarse valeBOT
GG @boreal jasper, you just advanced to level 2 !
astral dagger
I don’t think it matters
vivid jolt
Vertical 1:1 is what Siege uses for FOV if that's what you're asking.
Changing the resolution can affect your aspect ratio. I use 16:10.
analog halo
tepid cosmos
dicked on by maestro doe
vivid jolt
Bink.
astral dagger
balmy briar
Can anyone suggest good scenarios to run on Kovaaks for siege?
astral dagger
lol who needs acog
@balmy briar dunno ask Vladr for what he does , but id recommend everything presicion related , mousecontrol scenarios and some cfsi
astral dagger
close fast strafes (invincible)
balmy briar
Ah that one I have saved.
median wadi
Just gonna leave this here.
vivid jolt
median wadi
Just gonna leave this here as well
vivid jolt
Nice shot.
astral dagger
so many toast names goddamn
hazy wagon
There used to be a lot of "breads." But they all got burnt out
worn wagon
@median wadi are you the guy who played sternabs summer arena 3v3 in NA and got close to the finals?
median wadi
Sternabs?
astral dagger
some caster iirc
median wadi
@worn wagon We played in Sage league and got 3rd place out of like 35 teams
night radish
@vivid jolt can you explain the fov thing for dummies. If im playing 4:3 in siege, but siege uses 1:1 what in the fuck does that mean lol
I have read it so many times and i dont get it
Like say im in kovaaks or aimlab
To get the equal fov feeling i dont need to change resolution?
If im using OW fov setting i dont need to change resolution? I just straight up dont understand
@median wadi how did you see the guy on skyscraper ?!? But nice shots
vivid jolt
1:1 Vertical is just the FOV type it uses. Ignore the numbers. If you want to use Siege FOV in Kovaak's just set it to Vertical 1:1.
4:3 is an aspect ratio. In kovaak's that can be changed by changing resolutions. I forget the resolution for 4:3, but you can google the different aspect ratio resolutions.
night radish
Its like 1280x986
coarse valeBOT
GG @night radish, you just advanced to level 2 !
night radish
So to get the same aspect ratio i have to change resolutions
median wadi
@night radish He kept peeking his head like a spastic
coarse valeBOT
GG @median wadi, you just advanced to level 1 !
night radish
And changing resolutions affects FOV no?
median wadi
I also trimmed the clip so it would work in discord but a seconds before you can see his skull right before I popped it
median wadi
Thank you
vivid jolt
Yes.
night radish
Okay, thanks toast
median wadi
hazy wagon
takes a bit to learn the game and imo it isn't too toxic compared to league and csgo
at least from my experience
vivid jolt
Least toxic community of any major Esport out there that I've seen. People making a big deal of it being toxic recently because it's gotten big over the past year. More players = more toxic. It's unfortunately inevitable.
The game is brilliant, but everyone will tell you it's the hardest FPS game to get into by miles (which makes people quit and meme on it). So good luck on your mandatory 100hrs of beginner's suffering if you chose to do so. Best FPS I've ever played once you learn it.
Skill ceiling is absolutely infinite.
keen finch
Damn sounds fun
astral dagger
Skill floor is very high is why a lot of people drop it
Takes so long to learn anything to compete at a basic level
astral dagger
@keen finch if you get into it there is nothing quite like it
btw what do you guys think of bullet hole peeks ?
https://youtu.be/0byPeijDz_Q whenever i upload smth it looks totally scuffed although the file itself is in good quality wtf
worn wagon
any1 wanna stack NA/EU rn?
vivid jolt
Bullet holes peaks should never be a thing unless it's from a massive bullet at most. Bullet holes should be opaque 2D icons.
keen finch
@astral dagger yea it looks really fun but I know I'ma have to put like 200 hours or so until I get a decent understanding of the game
astral dagger
well you can speed up that process @keen finch
keen finch
How?
astral dagger
have some one teach it to you
keen finch
I have a couple friends who are like plat so I'm guessing they can help, I'm just gonna hate feeling like a dumbass for a while
keen finch
Well that's all I have friend wise lol, and it'd be a decent starting point
astral dagger
it sure be
the sad thing is that plat is top <10%
which is kinda sad for most of the people in there only understanding the basics of the game
keen finch
Damn, some siege plays I've seen are pretty insane, it looks like once you understand the game it's the best tactical shooter
keen finch
Ehh idk tbh I usually play hero shooters and arena shooters, never really play like tactical games so I wouldn't know
But I'm sure I'd be able to hit shots and stuff
astral dagger
well decent mechanics will put you in a good starting position for sure, but as long as you havent understood the basics your mechanical edge will be waaaay less useful then it would be starting out in a diffrent shooter
btw if you wanna see good gameplay i recommend watching Joystick, or out of the people i have played with and agains Spoit @keen finch
keen finch
Ah I see, well gonna have to get to grinding I guess lol, and I'll prob watch them rn tbh while I'm still in bed.
What rank are you if you don't mind me asking
astral dagger
btw if you want to watch smth good watch Shaiiko
best player talking about fragging
astral dagger
im plat in siege, thats why im saying its trash, i think im top5% EU
He got banned for shitting on the best player
to quote him " i rekt Pengu, he cried I got banned"
keen finch
Oh nice, impressive and damn that's crazy, he must be really good mechanically then
raw fox
vertical play and angle awareness are the hardest things to learn in siege
astral dagger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rtF4PUkuI8 watch this (the streamer is pengu)
its pure comedy gold
raw fox
got 2700 hours and still learnin
astral dagger
getting one tapped through 3 floors and a wall is fun
keen finch
I feel like I'ma die a shit ton to things I don't even know of
raw fox
what i don't like about siege in terms of vertical play is the fact that i can't fully look straight upwards
raw fox
info is king in siege bc of valk runouts
astral dagger
you cant play the game like any shooter or you will die in spawn
raw fox
so utility destruction will be #1 in order to push successfully
coarse valeBOT
GG @raw fox, you just advanced to level 6 !
keen finch
Spawn peeking , ive heard about that lmao
raw fox
spawnpeeking is easily countered with offsetting their timing by staing in spawn for a few more seconss
astral dagger
that especially on defense people suicide cuz they thing their sO goOd AiM is gonna help 'em
raw fox
staying*
astral dagger
well spawnpeeks are all attacker sided , the only unfair thing are spawn rushes
raw fox
it will tilt impatient players once they look away, giving you a feee kill
astral dagger
dieing to a spawnpeek is probaply 99% of times your fault so dont blame the game
astral dagger
buck are you dia ?
raw fox
plat0
raw fox
plat2* but i stack with diamonds
keen finch
Damn
keen finch
What are the best top 3 tips you'd give to a beginner
raw fox
and content creators like pranx, kobra, digiplay
astral dagger
Drone is #1 tip
definitely
the other 2
play as team
and dont tilt
as it has a really steep learning curve
raw fox
patience is key, learn angles, and constant communication
astral dagger
and the skill cealing is insane
worn wagon
@keen finch which region are you from?
keen finch
Na west
raw fox
im na west
astral dagger
poor soul
raw fox
i can help you if you want
keen finch
Why is that bad lol
astral dagger
i feel sorry XD no offense
keen finch
Sure I'd be down after work
worn wagon
atleast they talk in ranked
raw fox
people shit on west bc they think east is the best
astral dagger
depends on the elo exodus but yeah
raw fox
its skewed
worn wagon
much than in eu
astral dagger
nah buck, its just that eu and apac are far ahead
worn wagon
APAC?
raw fox
theres great people on west, more than there are on midwest
worn wagon
idk
astral dagger
yeah im not na idk
worn wagon
if talking ranked idk
worn wagon
i don't think there's a difference between ranked in eu, na and latam
astral dagger
but on a certain elo where people also communicate on eu its a far better experience
worn wagon
apac comp is also very top heavy
keen finch
Ou
astral dagger
and in my experience na ranked isnt the best
like really not that great even if you communicate
have met way more idiots in way less time on na then on eu
but thats probaply very subjective
btw @keen finch did you watch that vid ?
keen finch
I'm watching but I come back here to talk lmao
astral dagger
its fun af
keen finch
Ok brb gonna fully watch
astral dagger
btw am i the only one thinking that Godly is recoil scripting ?
well yeah @worn wagon we probaply both had very shitty unlucky experiences on the other server XD
raw fox
apac asia is more thorough with clearing and more inclined to use starts, ANZ are more aggressive with peeks less so anchoring, EU is more angle holding and objective based more than fragging, LATAM is super aggressive with rushes and power plays, NA is more fragging based than defense though structured more than latam
godly doesnt script
astral dagger
how does he not
why cant Spoit who is mechanically insane and #1 Eu at times control elas recoil while it seems to be a laser pointer for godly
raw fox
his tracking is amazing, with tracking directly influencing recoil control
astral dagger
same goes for the smg 12
raw fox
better tracking = better recoil control.
astral dagger
or same with magnet or pengu
raw fox
practice helps as well
astral dagger
most mechanical great pros dont hold up to his recoil control
and the rng factor should make it atleast a bit less laser pointer like + i dont think that his tracking is so exceptional compared to most other insane mechanical players that his recoil control is so much better
the guy seems to have mastered any of the insanely high RPM smgs although he doesnt even use them that much in his gameplays and while you can see pros and other people known to be mechanicaly great fail with it on a regular basis
keen finch
Saw the vid, shaiiko is so good
astral dagger
pengu best in the world kappa
raw fox
pengu is a good all roundplayer
astral dagger
hes one of the best flex players
raw fox
maybe not igling but
astral dagger
but g2 got more and more annoying lately imo
raw fox
g2 has lost what made it enjoyable to watch after 2 core members left (goga/joonas)
personally i root for luminosity/92 dream team core
astral dagger
yeah and they behave like idiots
i dont really root for teams
rather for players
raw fox
i do that for cores i.e old c9, the now disbanded rogue, spacestation with new members, etc
poor easilyy dud
raw fox
do you want to see r6 franchised or freelance?
astral dagger
tricky tbh
franchised could bring more money in
which it definitely needs in some points
raw fox
it would secure salaries for players and casters. piece of mind is priceless
astral dagger
i mean
especially apac needs some cash
some of the best there dont even get salaries
astral dagger
the squads all here
vivid jolt
@keen finch Top 4 tips for beginners I've always said:
- Drone everything. Seriously. Until you learn the maps fully, drone it.
- If it's wood and not a support structure, it's penetrable. Dry wall is always wall-bangable. No exceptions.
- Casual is not Siege, and most Ranked is not Competitive. Find a group.
- Watch the best players. Moreso in this game than any other game I've played. You learn so much. (Beaulo, Spoit, Godly, MacieJay...)
keen finch
@vivid jolt thank you, looking foward to practicing and enjoying a tactical shooter
vivid jolt
Also this video is repulsive and I need to post it.
https://youtu.be/fuJYVGXJibQ?t=14
I'd pay to see Shaiiko beat Zeeq's 1w6ts score.
astral dagger
@vivid jolt why is it repulsive?
i think shaiiko has pretty good aim, but what really sets him apart from other players is his reaction time
he has like a 140ms reaction time average
which is crazy
vivid jolt
His aim is so good it's gross.
vivid jolt
180 is very decent.
Most 'gamers' don't have that consistently.
Although I'm a believer in the lower the better in shooters always. I think VRT is slept on, though should never take priority.
compact garnet
im 15 and you dont even want to know my vrt
astral dagger
@vivid jolt i love that first shaiiko clip
such a meme
I mean playing agains him, not seeing his pov and not really knowing the guy its easy to think that he could cheat
lime wyvern
To match your acog sens to your hipfire and 1x scope sens go to file explorer, documents, my games Rainbow Six Siege, and then will be a random file of random characters open that, game settings, and then look for input, and then look for Xfactor. Xfactor default is 0.02 for matched sens change it to 1.0. In game change your ads sens to 100. It takes a while to get used but is nice. This includes matched sens for Holo, Reflex, Red dot, Acog, Ots-03 flip sight, Kaid/Nomad pistol, and Kali's sniper. At high sens it can be hard to use Glaz and Kali but everything else is good. Hope this helps.
astral dagger
btw i love shaiikos old setup xD shows the equipment doesnt matter if you are good enough
lime wyvern
Spoit has been playing on a 144hz monitor too to give another example ^
astral dagger
thats not what i ment
the guy was hitting insane clips with a deathadder and some hyperbeast printed mousepad
raw fox
DA's are still good, idk why people still shit on them
tepid cosmos
DAs are good in most games weight isn’t too big of a factor especially if you’re used to it
vivid jolt
Never heard of that.
hazy wagon
I think it's a bug that occurs after being trolled by teammates and being blinded by rage causing the game to magically uninstall
astral dagger
kinda
raw fox
OGA pit off to a great start
astral dagger
fix this bs ubi
how is it still in the game
@astral dagger not until late year 5
such bs
its a joke honestly
carmine pier
liquid gettin slammed
carmine pier
liquid 1
vivid jolt
Will be fixed next update, supposedly.
boreal jasper
coarse valeBOT
GG @boreal jasper, you just advanced to level 4 !
boreal jasper
Yikes to cyrn, poor guy
carmine pier
paluh slam dunked on bds
boreal jasper
part of kanto's high headshot ratio is his crosshair placement, the way he peeks is fucking perfect
astral dagger
honestly shaiiko is better imo
his movement and awareness, he somehow manages to always pick the fights in a way that benefits him
boreal jasper
4444444
astral dagger
shut
boreal jasper
Word.exe
astral dagger
imagine thinking shaiiko isnt leggit
boreal jasper
But yeh shaikko is fucking nuts.
He did cheat in the past tbf. I have played against him so much in the past, and he always seems to be laggy as fuck while wallbanging everyone. At least he is a clean player now.
astral dagger
nah
idk
not sure if he did in the past
maybe for fun but he didnt cheat when he got banned
boreal jasper
Im almost certain he cheated in ranked.
Either way, id rather support player like Ctzn over him, since we know he is legit and is arguably more skilled
boreal jasper
He is on a better team with superior co ordination. Because of that he can perform much better.
boreal jasper
There mechanical skills are very very simular. They even use the same sens, fov and aspect ratio.
So it comes down to who has the better teamwork and coordination
astral dagger
using the same settings in no way evens out skill
boreal jasper
Yes it does, i use beaulos new sensitivity and now i am the best player in the world.
astral dagger
i mean ctzn's entry is strong
but his overall fragging capabilites arent as high
especially not on his own
boreal jasper
As a fragger he has got the record for the most kills in a pro game ever.
Until paluh took that record today
astral dagger
yeah
didnt watch that yet
although id say that paluh isnt as good as shaiiko although hes on the arguebly better team
boreal jasper
Ngl paluh seems like a bot whenever ive played against him
astral dagger
^
btw i think its interesting how the meta changes
now you again see a lot of fraggers showing of with bruteforce
boreal jasper
He is obviouls a very good player though. Must just be shit in ranked
astral dagger
not to long ago you established map dominance and got kills that way and then repeat
btw i kinda wanna see how spoit performs in comp
every time i played him he fucked me hard
boreal jasper
Yikes, i used to be in the same team as spoit
astral dagger
which ?
boreal jasper
He played a few games with us in Newcastle Jaguars
Chewy and Ghosty used to be on that team too a while back
astral dagger
uk team ?
astral dagger
ahaha
i had this game
agains 5 net cafe indians
had to 1v4 2 matchpoint to win
boreal jasper
Ranks dont mean anything tbh, judge performance on your Kd or winrate in skrims or tourneys.
astral dagger
well r6s was my first fps ever
boreal jasper
Howcome you got placed against spoit?
astral dagger
have been playing actively for like a year
boreal jasper
Wild matchmaking there
boreal jasper
oof
astral dagger
to like plat 2
boreal jasper
ok
astral dagger
1 game before plat 2 in like the beginning of the season
at 8am
then i didnt get to plat 2 and the next day my main got unbanned so i didnt bother
astral dagger
nice
boreal jasper
Love pengu
astral dagger
r6 is the first and only comp shooter i ever played and i have been on it for like a year and a half
boreal jasper
Daddy pengu got French cheater banned
astral dagger
i was kinda proud when i was able to solo q to plat on multiple accs ngl
boreal jasper
Nice man
astral dagger
yeah comming from lol i was into theorie
but i didnt like mobas so i got into shooters
but i miss the mechanics
boreal jasper
I just like games which are satisfying and have high skill caps
Siege is perfect for me
astral dagger
yep
coarse valeBOT
GG @astral dagger, you just advanced to level 22 !
astral dagger
imo comp shooter out there with the highest skill ceiling
astral dagger
not to sure
boreal jasper
100%
astral dagger
well but csgo has been existing for ever
and if you compare old siege pro stuff to now its worlds
i expect it to get even more complex tbh
boreal jasper
Yeh the skill ceiling to siege is very high, but csgo requires quite a bit more mechanical skill.
astral dagger
yep
id say movement actually matters more in cs go
by that i mean movement in actual gunfights
boreal jasper
I feel like bullshit in siege like one shot headshots and low recoil kinda makes the game less skillfull.
boreal jasper
Not to mention the broken audio and weird peeking bugs
boreal jasper
Nah leaning increases the movement skill of the game alot tbh
astral dagger
yeah
but they kinda fucked it didnt they
leaning has caused a lot of bs to happen
it can rise the skill lvl but currently it also causes bugs and a lot of stupid situations
boreal jasper
Its more the weird netcode and hitreg than leaning. The game is somewhat fundamentally broken.
coarse valeBOT
GG @boreal jasper, you just advanced to level 5 !
astral dagger
btw imo good cs is one of the most enjoyable thins to play
but the way to get to an acceptable level is so hard
/ full of bullshit
ofc siege is broken, why would you build a shooter with an openworld engine
and the netcode...
raw fox
it was meant to be
vivid jolt
- That's ridiculous. That's over 5.5 rounds of aces just by yourself, and it only takes 8 to win outright.
astral dagger
@vivid jolt nice to see that im not the only one who meassures end of match kills in "amount of aces" XD
vivid jolt
The only stat that matters when you're recording..
coarse valeBOT
GG @raw fox, you just advanced to level 7 !
astral dagger
anyone down ?
raw fox
i did a thing
astral dagger
@raw fox wdym
dawn coyote
astral dagger
had like a 4-0 game in which i went 11/0
vivid jolt
What are all of your highest kill records in a single Ranked game?
carmine pier
18
analog halo
24
astral dagger
i think 25 ?
astral dagger
@dawn coyote Not a lot
My most kills is 30 in a 10man
But that's because I clutched out a lot of 1v5s that were given to me my greedy runouts lol
My most kills in a ranked game is probably like 22
But that's smurfing
Also it's insane that shaiikos record has been broken already
astral dagger
anyone down to play ?