community

[drowsy turtle]

it may seem pretty hard since of how split it is from diamond to ascended

being only 15 seconds i believe

but it's definitely a lot easier to get 915 than it seems

[hallow crag]

i thinky i don’t even hav 915 :<

i’m so bad

[desert hawk]

im burnt out, my aims been below par :/

[round kindle]

Keep grinding

Don’t stop

If you’re burnt out take a break

That’s what I did I took a week break became washed then started grinding

[desert hawk]

yeah

im gonna take a week of playing games.

[round kindle]

I have come to the conclusion I am forever stuck at plat

growth mindset > fixed mindset

[tough imp]

GG @round kindle, you just advanced to level 1 !

[fallow flume]

If you’re even IN this server than your aim is not below average. If you have the SA role then you’re definitely not below par, and you having a diamond role means that your aim is generally good.

Far more than most people you kill in a match can say.

You thinking you’re bad just means that you recognize you have that much more potential.

[winter locust]

Aww Toast cute msg

But yeah If you are gonna keep telling yourself that you cant get it or something Its Just gonna make it harder

When I started it seemed pretty hard as well but honestly right now Im pretty close to getting all of the achievments for Diamond

[round kindle]

It isn’t bad

I think diamond can be obtained in about a week

Plat 2 days

Masters 1-2 months maybe

That’s just my opinion though

[stable python]

no

ive been chasing diamond for a while know, but im not one tricking kovaaks

if i onetricked kovaaks and played it 10hr a day then yes

[left shoal]

Getting to diamond can be gotten by learning the scenario.

[fallow flume]

Playing for 10hr a day won’t do much for improving.

[left shoal]

Getting to master is increasing your speed and accuracy

[fallow flume]

Your attention span dies and you don’t have rest time to process what you’ve learned by doing the muscle movements.

[left shoal]

^

Processing what youve done is really important

[stable python]

well yes ofc its with breaks and stuff in between

10hr continuously is just dumb

[fallow flume]

Believe me I’ve tried. I grinded Kovaak’s and aim training in game for 60% of all the hours that are available in two weeks. Including sleep hours.

Improvement rate decreased.

Had to test it though.

[left shoal]

Toast so much energy

[fallow flume]

Just the will to find what is objectively best.... And that wasn’t it.

[winter locust]

Yeah the timeline may vary for a lot of people because I rarely do the scenarios required for benchmarks for another tier

I mostly do my Fortnite training because my goal is improving in Fortnite not getting sick scores on kovaaks

so it takes longer time than just grinding the scenarios required

[zenith jasper]

@fallow flume That's what I like about kovaaks

It's great for testing real life changes in a somewhat consistent environment for scoring

Bad sleep? Endurance much lower, scores okish until crash

Good exercise? Faster reactivity. Typically better scores

Just really like it for meta-learning

[modern hornet]

s-upgrade

[flint pollen]

Want to increase your skill rank? :mortar_board:

Check out our benchmarks: http://bit.ly/2PdgZlm
Graduate here: http://bit.ly/2NvOVqY

[stable python]

Lab is playing Open division playoffs now

https://www.twitch.tv/overwatchcontenders

if anyone is interested in watching it

[fallow flume]

[round kindle]

I’ve been stuck on diamond for 2 week

And I’ve been one tricking lovvaks

[desert hawk]

I just got 841 for 1wall 6 targets extra small. Im happy af

[languid arch]

Nice! That's not a bad score

[winter locust]

Anytime I play any small variants of scenarios I feel like I'm discovering new muscles in my hand

[round kindle]

Does anyone have a really nice popcorn goated clip

[desert hawk]

Yeah thats top 50 I think on tge leaderboards.

[round kindle]

small variants are lit

[fallow flume]

Chris does, I believe.

#1 at the time.

[analog elm]

nice messages toast 😢 ❤️

[round kindle]

gege mayne

[desert hawk]

bruh, top 30 in 1wall 6 targets extra small now. I see and feel improvement

[keen patrol]

Was gonna get a kpu but dunno about that thumb groove

[round kindle]

I love it

It's either close to perfect or one of the worst

[keen patrol]

Sounds pretty risky to me

[hallow crag]

meow meow

[polar fern]

meeeeeeooooowwwwww

[round kindle]

Quack

[fallow flume]

[solid heron]

lmao

[dusky sparrow]

i am an idiot

[worn notch]

idot

[dusky sparrow]

Com @ me sini

[round kindle]

@dusky sparrow

[dusky sparrow]

:) hi

[round kindle]

how are u so goodd

[dusky sparrow]

I give my account to talented people and pay them for high scores

[round kindle]

[worn notch]

[desert hawk]

My friends legit here thinking he finna get grandmasters on his first 2 hours of kovaacks.

I mean

:o

[left shoal]

He is secretly florence

[keen patrol]

double identity

[desert hawk]

:)

[round kindle]

[desert hawk]

Is there a way to see Kovaacks leaderboards online?

[zenith jasper]

nope

and i tried wiresharking the game data to see if I could scrape it

the only thing I could get from the packets were links to steamcommunity profiles for the ppl in different ranks but no easy way to tell what rank, score, name

only URL

[desert hawk]

Yee

Wireshark is soo usefull ngl

[zenith jasper]

i didn't spend time to find out if the data was encrypted or not

figured it probably is since it's the steamworks library.

[round kindle]

does anyone use kovaaks mouse accell

Thoughts on it?

[tough imp]

GG @round kindle, you just advanced to level 12 !

[round kindle]

jimmy so kind <3

[round kindle]

why dont you use it anymore?

[worn notch]

cool

[quasi iris]

does anyone know there is a ground plaza scenario but only the last bot like in air?

[round kindle]

go in free play and select the bot you want @quasi iris

[quasi iris]

thanks man

[round kindle]

Fuck that last bot

[worn notch]

Go play the new weekly comp: https://www.reddit.com/user/Syntensity/comments/e1yxf5/sparky_comp_26_week_25_results/

[stable python]

Its small

This is going to be interesting

I cant send pic of it here

Rip

UL2 is super small

Look in #640356646966657044 for pic of reference

[trim eagle]

amazing how much my ingame performance immediately increased once i got off dechanic

great pad but my mouse tracks shit on it

atleast on resets

[round kindle]

What pad you on now

[languid arch]

@trim eagle What mouse do you have?

[trim eagle]

Gpro hero

[maiden axle]

IM INSANE

ON DCON

[analog elm]

dude my last 5 scores or so in pasu track has been exactly 46. why u do dis to me kovaaks

what is dcon exactly, cant recall, nice! btw

[round kindle]

The dehanic control

i completely butchered spelling but

DCON?

[tough imp]

GG @round kindle, you just advanced to level 8 !

[round kindle]

link

ha its shitty

dehanic

[maiden axle]

no one asked

[round kindle]

dechanic is good wat

thats what i have

[tribal mural]

Also have the control and its been great

[dusky sparrow]

i asked

this is crazy that i am now orange

insane really

[celest nymph]

im getting dizzy playing the weekly comp

[worn notch]

[celest nymph]

its fun tho

my mousepad isnt big enough for me to do a full 360 unless i start on the edge 😦

[small blaze]

how do i get used to a new sens t.t

[wary rivet]

lil graduate 💎

[small blaze]

pogu

[real charm]

@small blaze just keep playing with it, you'll get better with it over time. i was in the same situation a week or so ago.

[analog elm]

Guys, I'm not sure how dumb is this question

But... Thoughts on sniping requiring aim?

🧐

For example, Fortnite where it has some lead, not like csgo

@wary rivet yo let's go man, huge inspiration for me! 🤙

[gleaming saddle]

sniping does require aim

what other thoughts were you looking for?

[analog elm]

Nah just wondering that

[gleaming saddle]

its just low fov click timing

[analog elm]

I was talking with a team mate, I recently got insane at sniping suddenly (also when I've been working most of my aim)

And he was saying that sniping it's like you have good aim and stuff

And I thought it's not really aim it's just like predicting I dunno

ty tho🧐

[wary rivet]

@analog elm

[worn notch]

It does to an extend, I find snipers lame on Fortnite unless it's to punish someone hard peaking

but the sheer amount of lucky snipes and you're out are just annoying

doesn't really need to be in the game

but atleast no heavy sniper anymore

[analog elm]

I 100% agree with you

I used to hate snipers

Literally never picked them

This meta though, they are NEEDED

And, op

If the heavy Sniper was in the game still I will uninstall 100%

I just picked it up since this season and been hitting nasty shots that's why I was wondering, it's free points/storm surge in comp aswell

And it doesn't have bloom

[fallow flume]

I’m of the opinion that projectiles (sniping) is harder to master but requires less refined skill since there’s an element of randomness to it that you can’t always consistently predict.

[analog elm]

^ sounds logical

And cool

[fallow flume]

Which, again, is why I’m biased and don’t find it near as impressive as hitscan shots.

That being said, people like ShadowBurn have some disgusting proj aim.

https://youtu.be/UdQ-X3qLfi8

[analog elm]

Just outta pure curiosity, main mouse toast?

[fallow flume]

Ultralight 2 with hyper glides on a G-S.R.-SE.

[analog elm]

Nice.

Model O, on same pad aswell, but I've been curious of trying new mice all the time

Hati, an ergo one like ec1b... I don't know there's so many options out there

[fallow flume]

UL2 is almost perfection to me. Tried a lot of mice and found this one the most optimal to me.

[analog elm]

The size and the availability makes it impossible for me to even think about it

Good stuff about it so it's definitely a top mouse

[fallow flume]

Understandable. I woke up early and waited in line for 30minutes on the dot to get 2.

[round kindle]

afc = away from community?

[analog elm]

30minutes easy tho

[fallow flume]

Computer.

[tough imp]

nelkage#0249 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[analog elm]

What lmao

[round kindle]

ok jimmy

[analog elm]

Jimmy certified boomer smh

[fallow flume]

...weird.

[round kindle]

0-0

i need a good pfp

[drowsy turtle]

projectile aimers best aimers

[round kindle]

0-0

hi tony

[winter locust]

Shiiit

I actually woke up at a normal hour

and managed to do a lot of stuff around the house

feeling kinda good

@fallow flume Overwatch projectile stuff from SB isn''t even that impressive, check out his soldier stuff from TF2, this is where it gets freaky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqJp8snJvWI

When you think about it, tf2 used to be such a good game, too bad steam absolutely griefed the game

[round kindle]

Imo sniping in CSGO is mostly just reaction time and some small flicks

Just people lack the crosshair placement/ gamesense compared to pros

[winter locust]

csgo lul

[round kindle]

omeg

why am i semi good at kovaaks but absolutely dog shit in apex?

can't track for shit

[winter locust]

Because you aren't playing apex enough

and you are one tricking kovaaks

you have to put in the time in kovaaks and play the game as well

[round kindle]

And be big brain

i mean yeah i guess i been putting more hours into kovaaks than apex lately

[winter locust]

^

Your answer

1.5h-2h of kovaaks then grind apex

ez pop off

also there is a lot of factors involved in the real game compared to kovaaks

xhair placement, gamesense etc

I have no clue about Apex tho because I played like 10 games of it

boring game

[round kindle]

might just give kovaaks a week break . been playing too much

[winter locust]

I mean you don't really have to take the break unless you want to, just make sure to put more focus into your "main" game

[round kindle]

You could just use kovaaks as a way to warmup for like 15mins than grind apex

[winter locust]

Yeah I just do my routine in Kovaaks then hop on Fn unless I'm grinding for benchmarks then it's different

[round kindle]

tru

Exactly rby

Sometimes I just hop in between the two Bc I get bored easily

[winter locust]

I don't like to do that

when I'm done playing one, I'm grinding the other one

[zenith jasper]

Fark tf2

Last game I properly competed in

Wish esports was big back then

Never got to vs any eu teams either unfortunately. Sucks cos I think they had the teams that could push us higher

[winter locust]

Yeah I used to compete in etf2l as well, used to be division 1, good old days

No idea what season you played in but for sure european teams were really good

[zenith jasper]

Played undefeated in Aus from release to late 09

Scrimmed top American teams at the time (complexity, seagulls team) and often beat them. From memory the us teams scrimmed eu and two of the eu teams were real good

So probably put us in top 3-5 I guess

Will never know but the team that came after ours in Australia came like 4th at those insomnia lans so I'd say it's accurate

https://youtu.be/BHHtEZWBJqQ

Old video and shitty quality since yt sucked in 08

Pre demo-uber meta

[zenith jasper]

10 years too early for proper esports

[winter locust]

Doesn't matter even if they would release now they would kill it

Only focus of steam is Dota

CS Go is literally 3rd party tournaments only

sometimes they throw like 250k $ which is nothing

[zenith jasper]

Mates doing pretty well now

They finally got to grand finals with 100t

In csgo

Decent salary. Probably in one of my fav orgs atm thanks to the guy running it

[round kindle]

how old are u @zenith jasper

[zenith jasper]

32

[round kindle]

[zenith jasper]

Tf2 years was 19-21

[maiden axle]

Ur old

[zenith jasper]

Envious of kids and the chances they have now

Yep

Will try with project a maybe

Biggest limitation is time

So easy to grind in college years

[hollow root]

!rank

[hollow root]

fudge, how do i submit scores to progress?

[round kindle]

s-upgrade

[flint pollen]

Want to increase your skill rank? :mortar_board:

Check out our benchmarks: http://bit.ly/2PdgZlm
Graduate here: http://bit.ly/2NvOVqY

[round kindle]

@hollow root

congrats btw

[hollow root]

@round kindle thank you so much man!

[round kindle]

⚔️

[hollow root]

@umbral fjord thank you! 😄

[molten pivot]

graaats

[analog elm]

yo guys

looking to make a reservation on the model D..., glossy or matte what do you guys think 🤔

got a model O glossy rn and I like it but dunno which one to order

[left shoal]

Matte black

Or gloss white

[analog elm]

k k

[molten pivot]

@analog elm does ur hand sweat?

[analog elm]

nope

[molten pivot]

So glossy would be nice then

[analog elm]

im just asking cuz maybe I should try matte, but I like glossy.., I forgot how matte feels like

getting glossy white tho

[molten pivot]

Nicu

[stable python]

i just swapped mouse mid duel in OW

[tough imp]

GG @stable python, you just advanced to level 12 !

[stable python]

and i won

lmao

[hollow root]

im thinking about making short guides of the scenarios im ''good'' at. Just 1-2min vids explaining tips i've recieved and stuff that works for me. Do you guys think people would like that? and would you watch it?

[stable python]

yes

and please do it

i need it for some scens

[wary rivet]

@hollow root i would watch, whats your yt?

[hollow root]

@vapid wharf okay nice! i might just do some then! 😄

@wary rivet i will dm you, i dont wanna promote myself in here thats not what this channel is for 😉

[vapid wharf]

0my pleasure bro ;

[winter locust]

Post it in coaching

[fallow flume]

Ah the mascot finally got announced!

I’ve been wanting to post about it for so long.

@worn notch Upload the mascot as an emote for me.

[worn notch]

Yeah same!

We will commission emotes and I think it will include the mascot as emote as well

It's too detailed to be used when it's so smoll

[round kindle]

pog

[fallow flume]

Oh? Even with the new emote enlargement update?

[worn notch]

Actually

With the new emote enlargement

It could look good

[fallow flume]

No harm in trying.

[hollow violet]

[round kindle]

i need some sparky themed stuff hmm

[round kindle]

hmmmmm

Sparky Mouse

[worn notch]

We have a mousepad

Panels for stream

wallpaper

avi

mascot

[round kindle]

adapt

[quiet sail]

is it possible to be a high rank using different x and y?

[drowsy turtle]

ya

[quiet sail]

is there any ex of someone?

GM

[drowsy turtle]

prob not

only people who really have different x and y values from what i've seen is fn players

some gms probably use the artisan hien which is technically like that

in a sense

since the x and y speeds on that pad are different

but that's probably the most you'll find

[round kindle]

I want to pick up the artisan raiden mid

[quiet sail]

oh ok

[round kindle]

since it looks like a good speed pad

[quiet sail]

Random question but, can someone get to ascended with x and y different

[worn notch]

Cool tip: you can change color of any image via this online website

https://pixlr.com/

So if you want to change the background color of the mascot

Click on the paint bucket thing, set tolerance to 40 and then pick a color you like to change the bg to

[desert hawk]

hmmm

[round kindle]

Is the mascot in the google drive

Nvm doesn’t matter I’m not gonna use for a while

[worn notch]

I will prepare it tommorow

[round kindle]

nice

[neon mountain]

that popcorn goated tracking invincible is very nice

it show me how trash i am with my new sens

[tribal mural]

the new mascot is adorable just saw

[round kindle]

@quiet sail i use hien im best aimer in world

yes its possible

@drowsy turtle vouch

[quiet sail]

bet

[worn notch]

@tribal mural yeaaaaaa

it's awesome

[tribal mural]

Very very

[round kindle]

fuck grinding for GM II is so hard just because I suck at click timing

otherwise it's free

F

[worn notch]

Start at Master II

Can still be nice accomplishment

[round kindle]

hm I could do that, is there a role I can get for it?

[waxen kraken]

so u can have gm and master ii?

[round kindle]

^

[worn notch]

yes

grandmaster would still show over it

but it's still nice to have

[round kindle]

I'll go for it then, I think I only need 1 click and 1 target switch

[worn notch]

nice o.o

make sure to use imgur gallery link

so it's super easy for us to check score

[round kindle]

ok!

[worn notch]

im going to change the form

[round kindle]

I should be able to get it tonight, turns out I have way more master scores than I thought

[worn notch]

so you dont need to upload screenshots anymore

everything through imgur gallery link

so much faster

[stable python]

If i hit a 15k in cfsi instead of cfsei can i use that then?

[worn notch]

for us to check

nope

[stable python]

right now it feels more achievable

[round kindle]

yeah it would be sini, super easy to bulk upload

[waxen kraken]

no cfsi in benchmark

[stable python]

rippers

[round kindle]

15k CFSI??

[stable python]

i havent hit it

but theoretically

[round kindle]

15k in close fast strafes invincible isn't possible?

[summer wedge]

Isnt that like 60 %?

[round kindle]

yeah elia

just play some close fsei thin @stable python

easy breakthrough practice to play a smaller version

[waxen kraken]

some1 got 16k by cheating or a bug (unlikely)

[round kindle]

madlyy I saw that on reddit haha

[waxen kraken]

ye

[round kindle]

bot gets 'stuck' halfway through the run

makes no sense

[waxen kraken]

ok i checked his account

1 vac ban 224 days ago

[summer wedge]

"Im not even in yuki aim" ahah

I remember that post

[stable python]

lmao

ill do that voxel

[round kindle]

Im not even in yuki aim hahaha

amazing

ye synoyd, it'll help

[worn notch]

im not even in congo aim 🇨🇬

😦

[fading spruce]

Shouldnt we add a fifth movement scen then ?

[worn notch]

yeah we will

[fading spruce]

ok cool

[worn notch]

looking to add those in the coming weeks

if it's a new scenario will put it as sparky weekly

[fading spruce]

nice !

[summer wedge]

Jumbo tile frenzy dodge

[worn notch]

Nah stralroom dodge or something was a nice one actually

or pasu track dodge

it's 360 movement target switching which is nice

[summer wedge]

Toast made it right?

I played that

[worn notch]

yeah I have to edit it slightly I think

[summer wedge]

Normal or easy version?

[worn notch]

he made me uploda it

I think normal version

since we also have pasu track dodge

i mean

pasu track

[fallow flume]

PASU

TRACK

DODGE

pasudodgerecoil

Or could also maybe do the Air Target Switch that I did. Mine was a dodge version, though. Would need way more plays and some adjustments too. So, that’s rough..

[languid arch]

!mousepad

[tough imp]

Trying to compare mousepads? Check out this mastersheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RAnmZxDNduaGV8kB-GCvZ0MO6d9-0j9jmrU2f8dp0Ww/edit#gid=0

[round kindle]

Just aim lol

[rocky spoke]

OHHHH SHIT

SPARKY QUAKE LIVE TIME

BOUTTA GRIND

[winged notch]

😈

[shut shuttle]

if i see anyone doing vamp lg there

im banning

[winged notch]

ban me already

[shut shuttle]

bye

[winged notch]

but then i'll come back

and 60% acc u

[shut shuttle]

not sure it's possible to 60% acc me

[hushed wedge]

owo

[civic whale]

What's This?

[hushed wedge]

a bulgy wolgy

[round kindle]

0-0

[worn notch]

Quake Live Server

Sparky QL
IP: 176.57.153.4:27990
Password: G@8*)J49X`fb8_m=

[round kindle]

What is quake 0-0

[quiet sail]

Anyone know what’s “nox” sens?

[worn notch]

20cm

[winter locust]

Asking about sensitivity of other players is weird

like if anyone from ascended would be on 5 cm theoretically

it won't make you a better aimer if u switch to it

Like to be fair

If you limit it into "normal" range

that can work

[hallow bramble]

Result:

30.985095172715

[winter locust]

sHAHA

GOD SENS INSTANTLY

noo way it gives my sens

i'm moved

[shut shuttle]

wtf is that password @worn notch

[worn notch]

Random generated one

It's nice

[winter locust]

Wait ins is this the moment where you get to destroy me in quake?

[shut shuttle]

lol

[worn notch]

just copy paste

?

what

for now i keep like this

can change later to something easier

ins is admin

as well

feel free to make changes to the thing @shut shuttle

[winter locust]

I have no clue what just happened

I'm not even gonna try to decypher it, just gonna watch some hbo go

[round kindle]

NOX is a legend

Nice

Just use a common password word XD

I need to use better passwords

JK

mine are >

[quiet sail]

@winter locust no no i wasn’t gonna switch to it i was asking to see if theres a correlation cause ascended is mostly 29-32

[winter locust]

Because 29-32 is god range

nah but srsly

most ppl find it most "natural" to play on

[tough imp]

GG @quiet sail, you just advanced to level 6 !

[past pike]

how do i join ql server

i have ip adress

where do i put it

[molten pivot]

maybe connect then ip adress

dun

[round kindle]

i play at 27.5 cm

[past pike]

what

poldora

i dont understand

connect to what

[winter locust]

Idk I use 32 because I find it the easiest to use my entire arm during aiming

Also If I go higher sens and Im stressed while competing I get shaky and on 32 is fine

When I was on 25 I had a parkinson in late game sometimes

But Yeah

[round kindle]

32 cm nasty

[molten pivot]

connect (ip adress)

not sure if it works like that tho

[winged notch]

or juste type sparky in match browser, and uncheck "hide empty servers" and "hide password servers"

but the password doesn't work for me

my bad

password has been changed

[round kindle]

How much is quake

[past pike]

3 dollars

just sell stuff on steam

wait how do i find sens

[umbral fjord]

find sens on what

[round kindle]

JCALC

[umbral fjord]

ql???

QL uses source

so 2.1 is 24.7

1.5 is 34

[summer wedge]

where is the server located?

[past pike]

my character is having a stroke when shot

[umbral fjord]

probably eu

netherlands maybe

[summer wedge]

yeah it is

eu

[round kindle]

RIP

Does ping matter in quake

[summer wedge]

no idea

try

[round kindle]

I might buy but dead game

Then again only 3 usd

[summer wedge]

yeah

i had some money from cs cases

[round kindle]

Nooiceee

[fallow flume]

S- calf

Fucking autocorrect

S- calc

Wait shit..

S-calc

!calc

I give up.

I swear to God these commands change everyday.

It’s a conspiracy against me.

[summer wedge]

s-cm

[flint pollen]

@summer wedge:
commands:
s-cm [game | yaw] sens cpi -> cm/rev
s-convert [game1 | yaw1] to [game2 | yaw2] sens1 -> sens2
s-sens [game | yaw] cm cpi -> sens
s-deg [game | yaw] sens cpi -> deg (deg = 36/cm)
s-games -> list of supported games

@slate oracle: undefined

[worn notch]

toast bro...

[round kindle]

0-0

[stable python]

People have started saying my aim is good

And im here like "WTF HAVE YOU SEEN THESE GRANDMASTER SPARKY KIDS?!?!?!" in my head

[tall oasis]

I know exactly what you mean, dude

[solid heron]

I just say "nah I'm above average but far from good"

[desert hawk]

^

[left shoal]

Im an aimbeast

Dont talk to me

[naive shadow]

egod

[fresh harness]

someone join quake server

[fallow flume]

“Hah, have you seen my Tile Franzy scores, plebeians?”

[left shoal]

Toast god tile frenzy player

Why isnt he picked up yet

[fallow flume]

Don’t worry. I’ll be on FaZe before you know it. Mark my words.

[left shoal]

FaZe toast

Very catchy

Ill be waiting

[fallow flume]

Tile Franzy will never be the same.

[mellow thicket]

Tracc will never be the same

Toast is so good at tracking that he traccs blindfolded @fallow flume

[round kindle]

I play time frenzy with my toes

Don’t even try me 😎

[fallow flume]

@mellow thicket cliccs so fast that the Tile Franzy tiles don’t even have time to spawn in.

[mellow thicket]

INSANE

[fallow flume]

[round kindle]

can i add my name to the spread sheet?

[mellow thicket]

@round kindle you can

[round kindle]

😄

[tough imp]

GG @round kindle, you just advanced to level 10 !

[round kindle]

should i post my info here r

[naive shadow]

no

@round kindle

[round kindle]

ok

guide me

[naive shadow]

in the pinned messages

[round kindle]

okay ty

[desert hawk]

I have no motivation to do anything.

[naive shadow]

@desert hawk u good my dude?

[desert hawk]

shits been rough, this discord kinda keeping me up though 🙂

[naive shadow]

that sucks dude, i hope it gets better

u can dm me if you wanna talk about anything or rant

[desert hawk]

thanks man.

thats not needed, I got myself lol

[naive shadow]

yeh

[desert hawk]

thanks though.

[naive shadow]

ranting usually helps me

just like blow steam and clear head

[desert hawk]

Yeah, thats just a habit though, temp I guess.

[naive shadow]

I guess so

[round kindle]

i submitted it 😄

[round kindle]

Silver we can get through this together

[worn notch]

@round kindle Saw your dm, you can see how the leaderboards work in #announcements there is a link to a google document about it

You have to scroll up a little

[round kindle]

ok

[worn notch]

Mascot GFX added in pins (same link as before)

[round kindle]

nox is sini...

[worn notch]

!ofsure

[tough imp]

FC Of Sure, is a term commonly used by @round kindle, he is known for replacing the word 'of course' with 'of sure' and this is now the new meta.

[round kindle]

sini

i love the mascot <3

[worn notch]

@round kindle

[round kindle]

@worn notch

real talk

how can i earn my photo perms back

[worn notch]

If you agree with: 'Not shitposting and posting in appropriate channels'

Then we can talk about it

[round kindle]

i didn't know all the rules and i posted two prs in general

i am sorry

i just wanna post my pets :(

[round kindle]

0-0

[fallow flume]

S1mple got banned on Twitch. No reason stated.

Twitch just really really wants their company to die.

If Mixer grabs one or two more top streamers then 20+ smaller and cheaper mid-tier streamers then they really have a shot of slamming Twitch by building an ecosystem.

[winter locust]

It is debatable, twitch chat is a huge reason why twitch is still here

[inland fiber]

^^ true

[gleaming saddle]

doesn't mixer have even stricter rules than twitch?

[winter locust]

I just put in the bottom into my gpw because I used to play without it

and the overall stability of the mouse improved like 10 times

literally shaking 10x less

on thin aiming long invincible

lifehacks lol

[tall oasis]

@gleaming saddle

My personal experience dictates that the primary issue with Twitch rules is their inconsistency and selective nature, rather than the severity of them

[winter locust]

^

So basically e thots not getting banned for anything and normal streamers getting banned for random stuff

[zenith jasper]

Sorry I flashed my pussy
Twitch: np

[tall oasis]

Twitch: maybe do it again

[winter locust]

Haha

Bro they are straight up sliding into hoes dm to smash on twitchcon

lul

[zenith jasper]

Guy: idiot
Twitch: your thick accent made it sound like the n word. Banned

[modern hornet]

there was a scammer streaming s1mple vods, not banned

[tough imp]

GG @modern hornet, you just advanced to level 7 !

[modern hornet]

but real simple instantly banned

[gleaming saddle]

idk i think if you are getting mad over ethots not being banned then ur dumb

imagine wanting people to be banned

taking a more strict site over a less strict site just because its more consistent is bad

thats like saying youd rather live in north korea over america because at least in north korea their rules and law are consistent

[winter locust]

Hmm no it doesn't work like that

because comparing twitch to north korea doesn't work

[gleaming saddle]

i wasn't make that comparison

[winter locust]

Yeah well u were going somewhere with comparing nk and america

Mixer is a really bad site atm and poaching few top streamers won't change the fact that twitch is just better atm

even with inconsistent rule set and random stuff

[tall oasis]

I disagree bozott

[winter locust]

Mixer isn't watchable atm

[tall oasis]

Having proper rules =/= mindless strictness

I would rather a website with clear, fair rules, than a website that doesn't specify any guidelines

[gleaming saddle]

even if the clear fair rules cause more damage to streamers?

as in, result in more bans?

[tall oasis]

Then they wouldn't be clear and fair

No fair rules would hurt an innocent streamer

[gleaming saddle]

well that depends on how your define fair and innocent

[tall oasis]

I want those who are on Twitch or Mixer to produce content, do what they enjoy, and entertain people, to be able to do that

With freedom and justice

I don't want people banned inexplicably

[gleaming saddle]

yes but what if less people are able to do that on mixer than they are on twitch?

[tall oasis]

For what reason?

[gleaming saddle]

because they have stricter rules

[tall oasis]

If there are rules preventing, let's say, swearing

I'd disagree with that, for example

Because swearing should be allowed in my opinion

[gleaming saddle]

but thats fair and clear?

[tall oasis]

Is that a rule on Mixer?

no swearing

[gleaming saddle]

idk if it is, I remember one alternative to twitch had banned swearing

[tall oasis]

My main issue with Twitch is that they say they banned someone because they broke so and so rule, but then they go and let someone else do it liberally. Just don't ban either of them or make a better rule.

[gleaming saddle]

you are saying that being hypocritical is the most important

but that means very little

you would rather have a strict site with 100% enforcement over a less strict site that doesn't even enforce half their rules"?

[tall oasis]

That's exactly my point

I would rather have neither

Allow me to explain

[zenith jasper]

I don't care so much about ethots not being banned. They can borderline cam girl fan service all they want for donations.

It's more some male streamers get banned for such minor shit that they didn't even do and twitch dig their heals in.

And refuse to admit they made a mistake

[tall oasis]

When I say fair and clear, it's because every respectable platform needs a set of guidelines that encourage kindness, respect, and mutual benefit among both streamers and viewers. I definitely would want a rule preventing excessive toxicity, but one that is mediated properly, not based on how the mods are feeling. Being subjective and hypocritical is a big deal, because it goes against a mediator's exact duty.

I need to research Mixer's rules more thoroughly, but for me - to answer your question- a streaming platform that allows streamers to do what they love and be themselves (as long as being "themselves" doesn't involve an ungodly amount of toxicity) then that website would be one that promotes healthy streamer-company relationships, as well as (more importantly), streamer-viewer relationships. A website with just enough rules to make sure that everyone abides by basic humane behaviour, but with those rules enforced objectively. Someone who's swearing and having fun is different from someone telling a teammate to kill themselves, for example

[gleaming saddle]

calling for the banning of someone who is doing an action that you do not believe should be banable, just because someone got banned for doing the exact same action
is bascailly you telling twitch that you agree with their rules and want heavier enforcement.
You are only reinforcing the rules and further cementing these horrible rules that shouldn't be rules in the first place
you should instead call for the unbanning of streamers, not for the further banning of streamers
if you want more freedom, you do not ask for heavier rule enforcements to be made

[tall oasis]

^ read this boz

I never said that, is my point

I would rather no one get banned if the rule is inconsistent than everyone get banned for it

People who are upset by this are mad that the streamers who did get banned got banned, not that those who didn't got away with it

[gleaming saddle]

yet that is what i am saying; that calling for the banning of female streamers for the sole sake of enforcing equal treatment of rules, is a retarded idea

[tall oasis]

And I would agree

Just make the rules clear so when and IF they do ban someone, we can say that they broke a specific guideline, but don't do it out of the blue with no explanation

It's less about strictness and more about having a systematic approach to their behaviour

[winter locust]

No one gives a fuck if e thots are getting banewd

they were just example of unjustice on the site

it's not that deep bozott

Twitch is better alternative for now

because Mixer is a dead site

that's it basically

[gleaming saddle]

you contradict yourself in your first paragraph by saying that they should not act out of feelings and surjectivity, but you started off by listing a bunch of rules that in itself are surjective and based upon your own feelings.

[tall oasis]

I don't think toxicity is that subjective

[gleaming saddle]

i do

[tall oasis]

And either way, that's not something that should matter, because a system with properly enforced rules would have countermeasures to something "controversial" like toxic behaviour. Just because it may be difficult to identify first glance, does not mean it should be permitted

Ultimately, a platform that promotes kindness is a platform I'll stand by

Twitch, by banning people inexplicably, are denying many the answers they deserve; thus enlarging the barrier btwn Twitch and its users

[gleaming saddle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gzZopo1fH8

is this toxic or is it not

[winter locust]

Nah

[tall oasis]

"Lets go baby" "I dont wanna hear you talking shit if you aren't gonna win the map" That's cool

[winter locust]

They are just 0 iq monkey players from cod controller league

[tall oasis]

"You're going home you fucking f**"

[winter locust]

Sari pls

If u say that

NO

[gleaming saddle]

but can you see how some people may think that is toxic?

[winter locust]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[tall oasis]

It's why I blurred it

The second one, I'm not okay with

[winter locust]

No way

[gleaming saddle]

yea exactly

toxicity is surjective

[tall oasis]

You think calling someone a *** is fine?

[gleaming saddle]

in certain contexts

[winter locust]

Yeah during the tournament

[gleaming saddle]

yes

[winter locust]

sure

if you don't think that

you are a special snowflake

sorry not sorry

[tall oasis]

You just turned this discussion into a full on insult

I don't mind having a different opinion, but don't label someone for having it

[gleaming saddle]

sari you don't even know what year that was in

[maiden axle]

Boz is famous now

Insane how much u changed

😔

[gleaming saddle]

ive just proved to you that "toxicity" is not objective, but is instead feeling based and surjective

[tall oasis]

You're correct, toxicity is not a correct term for it, as it is too broad

Then maybe toxicity isn't the correct rule to enforce

[gleaming saddle]

maybe most of the rules you listed were surjective and feeling based

[winter locust]

How is special snowflake offensive, it's literally a term to describe certain type of behavior?

[gleaming saddle]

because offensive words are also surjective and feeling based

and vary from person to person

[tall oasis]

https://prnt.sc/q3u9vb

[winter locust]

Noun. special snowflake syndrome (uncountable) (derogatory) The conviction that one (or often, one's child) is, in some way, special and should therefore be treated differently from others.

?

[tall oasis]

Literally says (derogatory)

??

I'm not mad man, but just why

[winter locust]

Because I think you are overreacting

it's not that deep

[tall oasis]

I'm just having a discussion

[winter locust]

calling someone in a heated moment

during a tournament

doesn't make you a bad person

[tall oasis]

You said the same thing to bozott a few minutes ago

I never said it does?

[gleaming saddle]

snowflake has lost its meaning anyway

[winter locust]

I said what to bozott exactly?

[tall oasis]

"It's not that deep"

[gleaming saddle]

used to be "someone who melts under pressure" but now it just refers to anyone you don't like

[tall oasis]

Basically

[winter locust]

Yeh

Because it's not

[tall oasis]

I saw someone in another discord literally get called a re****

[winter locust]

And how is that relevant?

[tall oasis]

Defended them, and got called "sensitive"

[winter locust]

I'm just saying when ppl compete they use some words that aren't acceptable

in a normal enviroment

football, basketball, any sport u can imagine does that as well

[tall oasis]

I'm sure it does

[winter locust]

Is calling someone dogshit after outplaying them okay? Yes it is

Are you going out and calling ppl dogshit irl or on discord no

It's simple af

[tall oasis]

So we're doing the "it's a game, don't get too worked up over it" thing

Twitch is different than a tournament

[gleaming saddle]

Sari, the rules you listed and thought were objective and standard accross everyones minds are not, they are surjective and feeling based.
Kindness, respect and mutral benefit all mean different things among different people. There is no objective "respect" that is shared among every living human nor kindness nor any of the other rules you can think of.

[maiden axle]

This isn’t the discord to insult ppl and argue

[tall oasis]

That doesn't mean, bozott, that there shouldn't be any rules for them at all

That's what I said earlier as well

You're right about something

[gleaming saddle]

maybe not to insult people but to argue is to challenge each other, and challenge = improvement

[tall oasis]

Which is setting guidelines for this is very difficult

Thank you!

We're on the same page

I trash talk my teammates frequently for that purpose

I think it's a great catalyst, but there are sensible boundaries to them

I would never tell a teammate to kill themselves because they suck with the intent of 'incentivising'

For example ^

[gleaming saddle]

yea but thats where you and other people differ

[tall oasis]

And that's completely okay

I acknowledge that as you do

But we need to find a medium where people are sensible in their trash talk, and maybe I don't have all the examples to prove it, but I have a few, and a few is a good place to start. Better than not doing anything at all

Ultimately, we can never truly decide if something is right or not, because there's always gonna be dispute over it, no?

[gleaming saddle]

yes

[tall oasis]

But we need to start somewhere

Trash talk and being a consistently bad human being are different

For example

I think XQC is a great streamer

[gleaming saddle]

both surjective

[tall oasis]

But I think Logan Paul is objectively a bad influence

[winter locust]

ekhm

[tall oasis]

(He doesn't stream, but same point)

[gleaming saddle]

yea and thats an opinion that other people will disagree with

[tall oasis]

I know

I say this prepared to handle the ramifications of it

[winter locust]

How can you say that you want people to find a medium and then give xqc as an example

my man is consistently toxic throughout all seasons

flaming ppl and shit

I love the guy but?

[tall oasis]

Isn't that what you just said was okay?

[shut shuttle]

he's a moron

and a terrible player

[tall oasis]

No one disagreed

[winter locust]

He is 0 iq pepega

[tall oasis]

But you can't ban a moron

[gleaming saddle]

hey rby isn't a moron ok?

[tough imp]

GG @gleaming saddle, you just advanced to level 11 !

[winter locust]

Ins is my fav boomer

[shut shuttle]

but being an idiot is entertaining

[winter locust]

he wouldn't offend me like that

[tall oasis]

Because he's the kind of person you're standing by. Trash talk and flaming, where do we draw the line?

[shut shuttle]

so im not surprised he has a big viewerbase

[winter locust]

Yeah he is best content creator on twitch

[tall oasis]

He's definitely played his cards right

[winter locust]

because of his 0 iq

[tall oasis]

Good 🙂

[winter locust]

but I'm just curious how do YOU say he is a great streamer while not supporting any toxicity in your previous statement

this is what confuses me

[tall oasis]

Are you saying he's toxic?

[winter locust]

Ofc he is?

[gleaming saddle]

you draw the line arbitrarily, as in there is no "correct" way to draw the line, it comes down to a completely subjective point of view as to where someone draws the line.

[winter locust]

Do I care? No

[tall oasis]

How is he toxic?

[shut shuttle]

how is he not

[tall oasis]

I'd like Rby to answer

Because this is a point I was raising earlier

To which he denied that behaviour similar to that of XQC was toxic in a tournament context

[oak cloak]

no one on the QL server 😦

[winter locust]

When did I ever deny

that they weren't toxic

it's just a different setting where toxicity like that is acceptable

stop twisting my words to fit your agenda pls

[tall oasis]

"You think calling someone a *** is fine?

bozottToday at 14:49
in certain contexts

RbyToday at 14:49
Yeah during the tournament

bozottToday at 14:49
yes

RbyToday at 14:49
sure
if you don't think that
you are a special snowflake
sorry not sorry"

[winter locust]

?

[tall oasis]

"it's just a different setting where toxicity like that is acceptable"

[winter locust]

Yeah?

[tall oasis]

We're talking about Twitch here though

You're saying the tournament comment was just an interjection?

[winter locust]

Yeah where flaming ppl is acceptable

did you ever compete?

[tall oasis]

I did

[winter locust]

Just curious

In what game on what level?

[tall oasis]

Not a video game though

Professional basketball, U18 national team

[winter locust]

Cool and you never said anything toxic towards opponents

or trash talked them with your teammates

to hype yourself up?

[tall oasis]

I think the most we did as a group was

We had a 10-0 run and wanted to carry the momentum, so we basically just collectively yelled "LET'S GO, WHAT'S GOOD" on a break lol

[worn notch]

Interesting read

[summer wedge]

Whats wrong with being toxic lmao

[worn notch]

Thanks for keeping it civil

[winter locust]

You got it sini

[tall oasis]

My man, sini

A good discussion is rare nowadays

[shut shuttle]

hi

[tall oasis]

One of the many reasons this discord is 🔥

[worn notch]

thanks ins

[winter locust]

Ins you are a boomer tho

[tall oasis]

Nice, ins

[worn notch]

boomer

[summer wedge]

Hi

[tall oasis]

But for example, Rby

In a tournament game once, I chased someone down on a break for a block, jumped too high with too much forward trajectory, and landed on my ankle. I had injured the same ankle 3 times over the past two months, and this time was by far the worst. I couldn't step on it, but the enemy team (and some of their fans) gathered around me and started chanting "FAKING IT, FAKING IT"

[winter locust]

Yeah

Obviously they are gonna shit talk you because it affects you and gets in your head

[tall oasis]

I wasn't upset, these things don't affect me personally, but I found it mildly infuriating

[winter locust]

I assume you are NA?

or n

[tall oasis]

Well the thing is, I'm done for the game, I'm not even playing anymore, so they're just being a little too fierce

EU

[winter locust]

Yeah they are still gonna shit talk because they support the other club

[shut shuttle]

he said he played basketball, not that he played with guns

obv not na

[winter locust]

like literally every random soccer match is 10x worse

with insults and stuff

not even talking about racist stuff, just in general

[tall oasis]

Hahaha ins

[winter locust]

and also they have no clue if you are gonna be back in the game so might as well flame you

[tall oasis]

I mean every basketball player's dream is to get to the states

I think they were just pissed because we were so far ahead they thought I was wasting time by injuring myself

That's something you do in desperate times with a two point lead

Not a 15 point lead

[winter locust]

True

[tall oasis]

Speaking of which, I've got training in a minute

But feel free to DM or I can check everything when I'm back

Cheers for a good talk

[winter locust]

Yeah much love

don't break your ankles

maybe little #1 draft pick in few years

I'm expecting a little dono then

trust

[tall oasis]

Funny, I sprained the same one yesterday

I got you haha

[oak cloak]

btw I am still giving away two quake live copies

[worn notch]

hmm

If you still don't get any replies for free quake live copies

Tweet it out I'll retweet

[oak cloak]

did it

[sick flower]

I'd be keen if I wasn't in OCE, cus I'd have terrible ping to the sparky server 😦

[round kindle]

gaming in oce is terrible in general

[zenith jasper]

OCE represent

More of us than I thought

[round kindle]

another here

unfortunately 😄

we should honestly have our own chat area to discuss how bad gaming in AU is

[drowsy turtle]

someone say quake live

[fading spruce]

lg vamp

[summer wedge]

I got destroyed yesterday on the sparky server ahah

Nice start with a 0.17 kd

[round kindle]

if there's a server you wanna get destroyed on its probably the sparky server 😄

if it was a minecraft server you might be in trouble 😄

[round kindle]

If I got quake does ping matter

Since host is EU

Would I be at a disadvantage

[stable python]

@worn notch is it allowed so send in multiple clips for mvp?

[shut shuttle]

yes ping is very noticeable in quake live

[worn notch]

Just one unless it's meant to be together

@stable python

Like if it's about 30seconds together it's fine

[stable python]

okok

i meant not sending multiple to be together

but enter more than one since im bad at deciding

[worn notch]

Just enter with one :X

[stable python]

okok

gonna waste 30 min to pick one

[fallow flume]

I know that feel.

[round kindle]

This hien not showing up is making me sad

[fallow flume]

@spark tulip Master II upgrade.

[shut shuttle]

calm the fuck down

[spark tulip]

ins best coach

[shut shuttle]

one day i'll get paid

[languid arch]

Anyone have any idea how much time do artisan pads take to restock?

[round kindle]

considering its been a month with ems shipping to even get mine

never

[weak cradle]

where do u live

[round kindle]

D.c

[analog elm]

Lemme know if you got the answer for that, can't remember last time I did math @quiet sail

[wanton bison]

It doesnt take that long its just stuck in customs @round kindle

mine got from japan to frankfurt airport within 5 days

and was stuck there for 2 weeks

[round kindle]

Mine passed customs in 3 days

[winter locust]

It enitrely depends on customs

It can pass in 1 day or it can take weeks

[wanton bison]

how hasnt it arrived then

if it passed in 3 days

[round kindle]

It’s been in transit from regional facility for weeks

That’s why I’m so annoyed

Bc i shoukd have it already

[rocky spoke]

wait how do you even connect to the quake live server

i typed "connect 176.57.153.4:27990" in the console but idk how to enter the password

im stoopid

[summer wedge]

just search for sparky

and click on the server

[umbral fjord]

i did

/password

and it worked for me

[rocky spoke]

ohhh

[umbral fjord]

fuck it ima get on sparky server

[rocky spoke]

ty

ok then me and ben are 1v1ing

lol

[umbral fjord]

pasu is pissing me off so i might as well

[drowsy turtle]

we quaking?

[umbral fjord]

NO TONY

TONY NO WERE NOT

PLEASE DONT

[drowsy turtle]

ben i literally