#grimoire-discussion
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it would be roughly be between 2 to 3 am
Tomorrow?
And what happens during the stream?
When I tried to do the grimoire thing on my phone a few weeks ago it didn't work
they'll go into detail about what was decided in the last voting session and refresh everyone on what was being decided by the community based on past votes. if you're wondering when this specific killer + survivor will be released, it most likely won't be for another year or two.
Oki doki
What time zone
livestream will be up at 11 am EST tomorrow
K
you will see what time the stream begins in #dbd-announcements based on your respective timezones
Ok cause I have made a good idea that people like
A killer that uses divine weapons made of fog and the shards and maybe it could be that it was some type of war veteran who was blown up after a grenade was thrown breaking through the glass at a church taking shrapnel and sacrificed himself and he was ignored and never thanked so he became vengeful as the entity saves him making a hero become a demon his design being a mask of shards with eyes and shards in his flesh and muscle he acts like a sort of avatar for the entity as he's experienced so much war he found hope in religion but he felt it abandoned him
Call it the Savior as the entity uses the body of a fallen angel that destroyed a world the design could look more demonic as more gens complete and the shrapnel from the explosion is the shards which spawn from hitting people and when for gen progress it spawns glass shards as survivors try to prevent him from collecting shards which unlocks more like an axe that breaks pallets, a sword that is a fiery slam, shards that can act like cameras ,and wings which he gets when he gets all his shards and he can shatter the realm to move and on long cooldown and senses sin the more there is but and is a hybrid being slow like a trap killer but is a mix of chase and range as metal shards are ranged and slow him while glass is swift and close
the blasphemous act is holding shards exile is the portals they can go to another world and repent artifacts is the shards and ray uses glass shards to send a beam of light that shoots through the eyes of the shards and it's a killer who would controlling shards made of some sort of metal and was blessed by the entity as the shrapnel now has eyes to see the fog and now the killer uses it forming wings
I am saying this respectfully, but this message is very awkward to read
Too much text without any space inbetween, and a single sentance that goes on for far too long without pause
Sorry I just want to make a awesome accurate killer and trying to skip no details but could give some ideas
Does that help
It is more readable than before
Still, I've read this like 3-4 times now and still don't really understand it
Maybe you could try writing out the power, lore and design seperately
Killer has 2 types shards being metal which appears from dealing damage and glass forms from gen progress and the survivors are trying to play keep away
He gains powers the more shards collected so there slow like a trap but is a ranged and chase killer who has metal shards do long range but slow and glass is fast and close and his speed changes depending on the amount of shards he has
I made it separate
how does one get image perms
Posting 500 messages or something
Its what the red role is
from what i undestand this channel is a like a suggestion board for the devs right?
It is not
Its just some people started using it like it is last might fir some reason
It has to do with the Grimoire
We are getting a chapter in the future with a killer and survivor which are both custom made by the community through polling and suggestion
hm, so suggestions go on reddit then lol
No they go to the forum
Game has an official forums and there is a forum on for suggestions
Where
What specific part of forum
Feedback and suggestions
whens the new rift?
any idea what the new rift will be about
Dead by Daylight, most likely
i thought it would PJ masks
whiskers full zesty mode
I would like to see the new killer creature to be a hell hound with three heads and claws like Greek mythology that way creators can piggyback off that and give us sam and dean as survivors with two females from supernatural origin… some crazy gore with the attractiveness of survivors potentially ripped apart by the hell hound
swear i only get bully teams when i play trapper or another bad killer
fr?
Crazy, I know
Wait the trapper is bad? That's my man!
its good if your good
Or if they're bad lol
Im kind of hoping for a porcelain face. With empty eyes. Surrounded by blinding light. Something is just off about its presence.
i hope its a killer tbf
I really hope the divine killer is beautiful and unapproachably terrifying. That’s kind of what the divine speaks of to me. Sort of in a “this thing is so far beyond us” sort of way
i really like how u took this from compdbd and screenshotted it
thanks man
❤️
i mean its funny
I think the sadako boss from '' silent hill f'' Is a good example of a monstrous yet divine appearing entity
Maybe the new killer would look similar
WOAH!
So like me (joking)
I think it'd be fascinating to see something gone mad from the fog/entity's control, previously attempting to help survivors, now driven to undo the good it has done as a benevolent deity. Something with two forms, depending on how much it is worshipped (Killer prop), would be interesting. A twisted, malformed, biblically accurate angel for the non-worshipped version, reverting to its original actual state, where it is powerless to fight against the entity's doing. After worship, a more conventional and aware divine angel. Still attempting to kill, but benefiting the survivors in some form, like being easier to see, perhaps a hymn or lullaby. I think the idea of the Angel not being able to entirely lose its original purpose is interesting. A special ability of some type relating to god rays would be interesting, but not something like The First. Both forms are dangerous, but one is attempting to comfort the survivors with whatever influence they have left. The "comfort" in this case would mechanically have to make sense to have the killer be worshipped, but I'm not sure what that would be fully.
It probably won’t be considering the theme is ‘divine’ but maybe I’m wrong lol
The thing is with that you need to pull out the mark of negation
The problem is that we are specifically not allowed to rip off religion
I think it will be a cool idea to have a killer called "The Machine" where has the ability to send wires out of something like a television. It links to the word of "divine" by having the chapter be called the "Corrupted redemption" and also it is a soul being reborn into a machine that this scientist (named Dr Poweller) who was trying to create for an audition but backfired by having a soul enter "The Machine". These are the perks that I think that could be added: Erupted Scanner- when breaking a generator, the closest survivor aura is visible for 5/10/20 seconds (the cooldown is 60 seconds), Hex: Haywired- when being blinded or stunned, the survivor's aura is visible for 5/10/15 seconds, Voltage bolt- when a generator gets repaired, you become 20% fast for only 5/10/20 seconds. I hope this is cool if they also added the song called "Release the Hounds by FWLR & JELO" to give the killer a cool entrance to the game. This is what I think should be in the next update for Dead by daylight. (Player in dbd called ProBro)
I see
Well the only actual based in a specific religion statement I made was the biblically accurate angel.
that erupted scanner perk is just worse nowhere to hide
oh its 30 seconds reveal
I also made it where there is a 60 seconds cooldown in between
would need a range limit but 30 seconds is way too much probably
is 20 seconds fine then
I don't know what types of perks would be good for a survivor though
LOVE THIS‼️‼️🔥💯
Here's a big ol' concept that noone asked for!
A divine creature, kidnapped, conditioned, and ultimately corrupted to serve another. It's own sense of morality has been shattered, leading it to act in service of a goal which only it's twisted mind could comprehend.
This killer's power is strongly affected by the actions of the heretics, the so-called survivors who resist the will of its master, and who have been brought here for tribulation.
Starting the match, the killer has a base move speed of 4.4 and terror radius of 28 meters. The terror radius of the killer grows over the course of the match, being accelerated by certain things. Sabotaging hooks, cleansing totems, and blinding/stunning the killer will each cause tiny increases in the rate at which the terror radius grows, reaching a maximum of 38 meters after 7 minutes.
Chase music increases in volume as the killer gains tokens, and increases in tempo as they gain Haste stacks. Clearly it's some form of a choir chanting in Latin.
Part 2:
POWER - Salvation of Penitence
Remaining on a generator while in the terror radius of the killer will grant the killer Haste of 1% per completed generator, with a grace period of 6/5/4/3 seconds before the effect kicks in (giving you time to get off the gen, 1 second less per completed generator) and lingering for 3/4/5/6 seconds after leaving the generator (increasing per finished generator). Finishing a generator while in the terror radius will permanently grant the Killer 1% Haste. Multiple generators being worked on in the killers terror radius WILL STACK.
The killer starts the match with only the basic M1 attack for hitting survivors, but as their power grows, the chance for this attack to have additional consequences increases. After hooking a survivor for the first time, the killer gains a token. The number of tokens gained throughout the match will determine the secondary effect of being hit, lasting for 10 seconds per token gained.
-1 token : Deafened for 10s
-2 tokens : Blinded for 20s
-3 tokens : Exhausted for 30s
-4 tokens : Incapacitated for 40s
When the exit gates are powered, the Killer transforms, assuming a terrifying visage more akin to its current Master, though varying based on the buffs it gained before transforming. Any permanent Haste value it had is doubled, and if it reached 5%, it will grow vestigial wings, indicating its greater speed. It will also inflict EVERY status effect it unlocked with the tokens with each attack, and if it gained all 4 tokens, it will grow a large shadowy tendrils in place of its former appendages and additionally inflict Mangled with each attack.
Part 3:
PERKS:
Absolution
The killer gains power for every nearby injured survivor and every nearby completed generator. Each injured survivor within 8/16/24 meters grants the killer the ability to see a random survivors aura within their terror radius every 7 seconds. The aura reading lasts for 1/2/3 seconds, plus 1 additional second for each completed generator in the killers terror radius.
Torment
Freeing a survivor from the hook while within 12/16/20 meters of the killer will cause the rescuing survivor to scream and become Oblivious and Incapacitated until a generator is completed or they are hit by the killer.
Penance
A survivor healing themselves or someone else while in the terror radius of the killer will result in the healer suffering from Exposed for 1/2/3 seconds after completing the healing action.
And finally:
Killer Unique Item : Holy Totem
A Survivor holding this totem will not affect the killers power with their actions or presence but will suffer from the Oblivious effect. The Killer will see this survivors aura in Gold instead of red when it is revealed to them.
If the survivor holding the totem heals or unhooks another survivor suffering from any status effects inflicted by the killers power, said effects will be removed from the rescued/healed survivor and they will gain a buff which prevents them from being reapplied for 30 seconds.
When the exit gates are powered, the survivor holding the totem will have their aura revealed to the Killer for 7 seconds. Escaping with the totem while other survivors remain in the trial will cause the killer to be Stunned for as many seconds as there are survivors remaining in the trial.
torment is really overtuned, but i like the concept of that perk a bunch
It's interesting but the killer has to have certain powers and this should be just a different killer entirely cause it's an amazing idea but no real reason
Needs more lore and reason as if it was kidnapped as a child for example
The power is really slow to build but I think it's there. I nerfed some aspects because I just know there are perks Im forgetting which would make it OP. This is basically an M1 killer with a built in NOED, with the theme of exacting punishment for doing survivory things.
It doesn't realize it's potential and it got the mark of negation
You should check the requirements
For the grimoire discussion, you mean? yeah this is way out of scope for the prompt, I just couldnt sleep and had to share, lol
You need ray
Sin
Another dimension
Destroyed a world
Artifacts
K I think this should be a killer though maybe plant based
Cause of a lot of light related stuff
It seems stronger the more light there is
I didnt mention 'light' anywhere, so this confuses me. I value your feedback, but I do not understand it, lol
The power is really slapdash honestly, I like to think I put more effort into making the perks be balanced to use for other killers, which is honestly MY biggest concern when I look at a new killer
The emphasis was on getting a buff at end game which the Survivors have a lot of control over. If the Survivors perform their 'sinful' actions out of the 'view(radius)' of the killer, it does not get nearly as 'righteously angry' at endgame and is basically nerfed. The perks are to help it locate survivors in early game, and punish them in late game.
I would have to put waaay more thought into lore than mechanics
Let's discuss + Discord Stage tomorrow!
A divine investigator. A spiritual scientist. From a collapsed world.
When you think about the Survivor that's been foretold in the Grimoire (or, more specifically, decided on by you, the community), what do you imagine they've experienced over the course of their life? What challenges have shaped them?
Tomorrow, the Grimoire will open once again, and help you put a face to this bold soul!
❗ PLUS! join us here on Discord at 11:00 AM ET ( <t:1769184000:F> which is <t:1769184000:R>) to check out the next phase of the Grimoire with some members of our dev team!
I may not have asked for it, but I did thoroughly enjoy it!
Yes queen
WOOOOOO
Can a demon or non human survivor be an option because I saw a lot of people talking about it and sounds cool
depends on what the grimoire offers us as an idea
What I hope for is a perk that is like inspired by a curse the new survivor can have
Ooh, what entices you to that?
I think it would be cool if something that is meant to make it difficult for the survivor gets flipped and used to escape
That's flippin' awesome!
(Get it. No? Okay)
I do
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Thank you !
good chapter
Dwight and David in a locker banner
bonus points if they have voice lines for artist
bro i want to see what the killer looks like
Bro, me too!
The grimoire predicted that, trust
let it be some fallen angel type 
Want to be pinged when the stream starts? Hell yeah!
https://discord.gg/deadbydaylight?event=1464002819840409681
Definitely need to see this to either be disappointed or hyped as f
I wana see Gordon Freeman half life and chell from portal as survivors
Here's my concept:
A corrupted paladin wielding divine power of their god (maybe the Entity directly, maybe the Entity puppeting a fake god for the paladin within the realm to act as their compass). This paladin is doing acts they truly believe are their God's will to make the world a better place, but they are so blind to their faith that they cannot see how much damage, destruction, and death they are causing.
what grimore do
should i unlock tomb raider dlc or rebecca chambers or ash vs evil dead dlc
cant wait for the chat to be flooded with nothing but demanding new licenses again

man Im too negative
does grimoire tease new killers
no
Last time they did a discord stream it was meant to be an interactive thing where the devs directly talk to people about the ideas proposed for dealing with tunneling and slugging. Most of the chat was people demanding licenses.
Kind of is that way with most dev streams really
They should do it again cause this is my first one
peak perk 🥹
is good?
Yes and fair as it gives you a chance from having a gen complete
Its situational
its great when ppl cant hit sudden speedy skill checks
Not amazing for most killers or builds but it can work if given space
Merciless plus overcharged?
Are you playing a killer that has one shot potential
should i put eruption in too
Surge goes well on doctor, who’s the best user of merciless storm.
ehhh plague and artist r my mains (WERE. i needa hop back on k asap)
Hesitation and Infectious is good on killers with surge if you are trying to get pressure for example with oni
Eruption is a bit overkill when you have surge, and i dont know if they stack together. You might want something to augment terror radius like Distressing or Dark Devotion, or a chase perk
Then no
Its incredibly stupid on Doctor specifically
Doctor's madness effects on skill checks apply to the merciless storm ones
add unnerving presence and its lowkey impossible
people run it along with huntress's lulaby and other crap to make skill checks a nightmare
oo sounds fun
yall r amazing at suggesting
should we move to game discussion so we dont get in trouble
Worth noting that like, Merciless storm in practice is normally matter more for it forcing survivors into focusing on the skill checks
I know a person who tried Dark Devotion to stick his terror radius to someone and then leave them to do gens while suffering
so they will struggle when you show up while theyre in the middle of them
I guess tinkerer could work to know who's about to start merciless
noone runs it for that though people usually just run it on doctor or as a low skiill level survivor stomper
Yeah but then it wont activate cuz ur undetectable lol
why would merciless not activate while ur undetectable
unless u mean unnerving presence
Pretty sure merciless is only under your terror radius no?
nope
Oh nevermind then lol
i never been so exited for a chapter as i am for the grimoire
How goes the grimoire?
We are voting on a survivor and suggesting killer tomorrow
Ooo
Theyre doing an interactive discord stream tomorrow
They said that the grimiore would open again soon
For real!
Giving survivors hallucinations would be funnnnnn. Making them think other survivors are killers and see random hallucinations of the killer staring at them from a distance or through windows. Maybe by constantly going in and out of survivor vision? To increase the meter and you get 25% hindered for 5 seconds if they see you while it’s activated for too long. If you get to close to a hallucination it goes out of your view and despawns
I hope that if they mantle over a pallet too much it will break
do we know when the expected ptb date for the grimoire killer is?
You just described doctor
Or part of his kit
✅
Divine stuff with a ray, sin, another world, and items
yea i know what features we're expecting i was asking if there is an expected date for the public test build yet or if we're still flying blind as far as that goes
It's because they have not made it yet
We decide
yea i know how the grimoire works, that isnt what im asking about lol
Killer uses divine weapons made of fog and shards and maybe it could be that he was some type of war veteran who was blown up after a grenade was thrown breaking through the glass at a church taking shrapnel and sacrificed himself and he was ignored and never thanked so he became vengeful as the entity saves him making a hero become a demon his design being a mask of shards with eyes and shards in his flesh and muscle he acts like avatar for the entity as he's experienced so much war he found hope in religion but he felt it abandoned him
Call it Savior the entity uses the body of a fallen angel that destroyed a world the design look more demonic as more gens complete and the shrapnel from the explosion is the shards which spawn from hitting people and when for gen progress it spawns glass shards as survivors try to prevent him from collecting shards unlocking more like an axe that breaks pallets, a sword that is a fiery slam, shards that act like cameras showing aura of sinners, and wings which he gets when he gets all his shards and he can shatter realm to move and on long cooldown and senses sin the more there is but and is a hybrid being slow like a trap killer but is a mix of chase and range as metal shards are ranged and slow him while glass is swift and close
the blasphemous act is holding shards exile is the portals they can go to another world and repent the shards which removes shards temporarily from map done by putting them in a altar that moves around and the artifacts is the shards and ray uses glass shards send beams of light that shoots through the eyes of the shards and it's a killer who would controlling shards made of metal was blessed by the entity as shrapnel now has eyes to see the fog and now the killer uses it forming wings if you get caught with a lot of sin you have your soul placed on pedestal and if someone destroys glass and metal shard while your soul is there you can get mori but you make it you reclaim your soul
Doctor does half of these things
Or something close to them
We dont even know when its going to be released geez
Im aware, I was just askin a question lmao
whats this evernt about? Im new here
Special thing thats been going on for the past year where the community gets to craft a chapter ourselves
thankls a lot
Theres a website up where we vote on stuff
thanks a lot
theres going to be a stream tomorrow dedicated to it
Hey again shadow
Hi
Anyone else add anything to what we were brainstorming yesterday?
I don't think so as I have seen interesting ideas but some to most ignore the requirements
Most when you were gone last night just kept talking about collabs they wanted lol
Lol
Were any JoJo's bizarre adventure
Specifically DIO
1 second gens the next 4k
Tbh i hope we eventually get a Higurashi chapter. Set up like legion where its Rena, Mion, Shion, and the MC which im blanking on his name atm. When comes to Anime or Lucy from Elfen Lied.
Dont make the kids the killers man thats just lame
Dio for his ability first having to hit a survivor giving haste then if he gets stunned gains his ability charge for the world where it's 2.5 sec of stopped time and he gains another charge after hitting enough survivors plus cooldown for charges regenerating every 25 second is fair mostly plus the mori and survivors only being able to see the aura of the world and not the stand would be AWESOME
Just add Rena as a survivor or a themed cosmetic outfit or something
No matter what we all vote for we all know deep down that BHVR will ruin the chapter unless it’s a licensed one which even then it’s a hit or miss on the killers/survivor perks or killer case powers
The grimoire isnt licensed
Also The Unknown was one of the most successful and well recieved killers like ever on release.
My idea is one of the most liked and I put it in so I have a decent chance
Theyre the killers in the anime.
Why not Kira from JoJos
I do. Ive literally watched all of the original and the reboot
Bruh
Bro just hits them with bites the dust then the trial restarts
Alright I gotta get the image out
I dont think you understand it if confused why i want them as the killers. But id just be happy with them as survivors too since they fill both roles tbh
I was gonna say Kira when you mentioned Dio but i couldnt remember anything about him besides hes a serial killer
Lol
I only watched through Jojos once so i don’t remember all of it
Damn I dint have it anymore
Anyway youre a lameass who didnt read the VN
Also Satoko is like 11 or 12
And youre a rudeass for no reason for this comment.

I didnt even say Satoko
I said specifically the ones that would be easy to age up a year or two since i think theyre like 17 in the show or i could be wrong hard to tell in anime most the times since Ichigo is supposed to be a 14 year old yet mans canonically taller than me
WWWWWWWW yo i would low-key pay my entire credit card on that
It would be fun and it's simple power and perfect killer
Bro aren't all the characters in higarashi when they cry in middle school to elementary?????
No
Yo Kira is a incredibly pick for dbd ngl
No they have one school for the entire village and only one class since small village. Some are in highschool
Rika and Satoko are like 10 or 11 iirc. The rest of them are all vague in age. Theyre teenagers but they could be of any age really, nothing specific.
So they could be aged up like they did the Yuroichi for Ringu
Did you see my idea for DIO
Ok yeah I remember the one school thing but I remember them all being pretty young
I didnt but I can kinda imagine
That was different.
I mean it didnt stop them from doing Kanaki since hes in highschool too
Go up it's goated
But yeah itd probably be a Laurie Strode and Stranger Things situation which works fine.
Kanaki is a college student
Lol
I just want Rena she was my fav character since she’d go from being moe to yandere in a second
Isn't he in in college or going to it before all the ghoul shenanigans take place??????
He is?! Ngl been over ten years since seen the anime
Yo thank you
If we gonna do this I say hurry up on predator as Jason can get back in line
Ngl i just thought Rize was being a creep ngl
Theyre both on the top of my list for horror icons so id be happy with either
Predator would need to be like vecna with items
Anyway not to continue to stray of topic or anything but if they did do a Higurashi thing it would more than likely be specifically asociated with the visual novels.
Like swap which weapon he uses?
Probably the PS2 version
I just never had a computer to play them or i would of
Didnt know they had it on Ps2
No survivors can use his weapons and killer both doing different things and is meant for the hunt
Perk:Hex: Final Fight
When exit gates are opened all survivors suffer broken with each attack applying exhausted till the totem is cleansed with every pallet down breaking and remaining pallets being blocked but the killer cannot gain undetectable and the time that the survivors have to leave after the gates open has its regression doubled till all 1/2/3 of the totems are cleansed
Its been released in full on console several times but never in english. The PS2 version added new portraits, full voice acting, and CGs. Voice actors from the ps2 version ended up voicing the characters in the anime adaptations I think.
Nah just make him a bad blood so it has no issues killing unnarmed survivors
I feel a killer you could fight but has advantage is just a cool idea
Oh gotcha it would be interesting but feel like might be a challenge coding wise for the devs
Thats just normal killer...
Like a medkit that removes status and heals survivors and when he uses it allows him to instantly survive a stun
Would be hard af to balance tbh
I heard about the healing meta that sounds scary
But its ok to balance it being overkill they can just nerf pig
No there was a time before when it was worse
I am aware
There was a time before that tiem where it was worse
Im so glad I wasnt playing in 2016
Speaking of worse times remember two window shack? It used to be impossible to get a down at shack back then
At least for me
I dont remember that being a thing 
It was unfortunately
Remember the guarantee shack hatch time
Wdym
Ngl i miss hatch being gen based not survivor based
I was a killer main and i still miss it
Did you play trapper?
No but ik where youre going with that lol
I started playing some time before legion got nerfed
And was on and off on occaision for a while
I started as wraith then took a break then mained Pig when she released and now im a Ghost main
I did play a decent amount of Sadako and Chucky though but i like playing ghostface too much so switched back to him
I was gone by that point
Only came back a year ago but have a younger brother and a friend who have been playing way longer than I have and always been active
Tbh i took a break for awhile since didnt have anyone that played anymore at that time i forget when i left but came back when All Things Wicked released. I was still buying chapters though for IPs i liked. Which im glad i did since Hellraiser was one so just needed to get his cosmetics only when he was getting vaulted
Played him only once got his adept first match then never touched him again though. 😂 Felt too mean playing him. Was the same with Kanaki even though i waited till after the nerf.
Didnt help both times the survivors had a sandbagging Nic Cage
That always happens for some reason. Playing a new killer after it's nerfed. cries in alien It's the worst for trying something new, but still fair for the survivors
I like Xeno im just bad as him when comes to tail hits lol
I miss the 45 second undetectable on springtrap
I dont. Because even now a lot i face against just camp in doors anyways
I like FNaF but i dont like his playstyle otherwise id main spring
Imma do a sketch from the ideas i have for the killer now. @shy anchor said theyd post it for me since im not prestige on here yet to post it my self
Hard to get my idea down perfectly in a quick sketch but did a like 5-10 min sketch with what i had on hand
Thank you for posting it for me
By @tropic willow
Not 100% what i see in my mind for it but best i can do without spending an ungodly amount of time getting it down 😂
Pun intended
Tbh i liked the Alt head shape i did more ngl
Whats grimoire
Basically
Its where the community gets to make their own chapter
Design your own killer and survivor
Oh cool
Cool
They should totally make a chapter that swaps Dwight and trappers role trust
When I say this I mean make Evan Macmillan a survivor and Dwight as a killer as they are both the first survivor and killer you get so it could be fun maybe Evan has a perk where he makes hear traps for a short stun it something and dwight just have something to do with his lore or maybe lockers idk
Gorlok the destroyer would be lit
... Why
I have no art but you guys hopefully get what I mean I know this won't be seen but hey it's just an idea so if you do see this thank you if you do like it ping or don't idc
Anyone even look at this
Seems like a interesting idea but I could see this as like a LTM or mashup skin survivors dress up as killers and killers dress up as survivors
No I meant as there own survivor and killer
Because I think it would shed light on old survivors and killers and give them some lore like past trapper when he was a survivor of that's canon
And Dwight maybe the entity just really needed a new killer
I just thought that on the spot ngl
That's a good idea tho
Is that Toby fox—
Yep
Why bread
I'm annoying that is why
I devour bread and all I have to say is bread
Bread
Bread
You see my idea
I've made an entire perk set want me to show
?
Yummy
Sure
Well basically Evan Macmillan as a survivor
Perks
1 trapped
You know how to use metal to your advantage
After doing 130/120/110% of a generator go to a locker to craft a bear trap, if crafted you gain broken for 40 seconds.if the killer steps in it the killer gets hindred for 28% for 5 seconds if you step in it you gain the loss of a health state but can re pick up trap unless killers decide to break trap by doing a 2 second animation on the trap that makes you lose trap permanganate
Perk 2 rights
You've seen how people treat workers your gonna change that all survivors within a 8/16/24 metre radius gain 3% increase too all actions but if your injured they lose the effects and gain -30% reduced healing speed to you
Perk 3 shattered ways
your not gonna follow your future selfs path
Whilst crouched press active ability button to lose a health state but give it to another person who is injured randomly but you also give yourself broken for 40/30/20 seconds
Rate and if it's balance or not
2 and 3 are fine but 1 is broken
But you have to do that amount of gen if 2 people on it then you only complete whole gen for 50%
Also I did some minor balance changes
You forget it's hindered for meta with gen rush
Fair point I could make it 100% and also give broken for time
That sounds better?
Sure cause I don't want to play killer and get 115% hindered
Lol fair should I make it only one craft throughout the game and you can step in own trap or something
Yes that's good
Give me one second
Fixed
W
Would you buy Evan Macmillan again technically
I would but I never bought him I own gamepass
What you get trapper for free
Yes with hag, wraith, doctor, and nurse
I worded it wrong I meant didn't you buy dbd and get trapper
DBD is on game pass
Your X Box I'm ps5 I understand now
Yes as my family is huge on gaming
Really
Mine are complicated one is a chain smoker and my dad is working lots yes they divorced lol
Oof RIP happiness and hello trauma
Yep I'm fine now I stay with both now hey I still play dbd I'm happy
Also I think my mum thinks I'm a slave since she has arthritis
Lol
Anyway wanna play dbd
DBD is my escape
Can't on a bus to high school before a nuke of snow drops on my head
I'm in Aus so ha ha it's like 11 pm for me
JoJo's
We cooked I would love a sonic Collab but how would they do it is my question
You have multiple corrupt sonics
Vs 1 egg man as a survivor
Bro to fat
This is him
We cooking lol
Imagine being 5 gened by him and that's what he looks like
Lol
Lol
We need DIO as for his ability first having to hit a survivor giving haste then if he gets stunned gains his ability charge for the world where it's 2.5 sec of stopped time and he gains another charge after hitting enough survivors plus cooldown for charges regenerating every 25 second is fair mostly plus the mori and survivors only being able to see the aura of the world and not the stand would be AWESOME
Hell nah
dies
Lol
nah
dio is insanely cool but
if he was added it should be part 1 dio
I just realized you killed Toby fox ;~;
It's balanced cause a long cooldown plus he has to unlock the power and the haste isn't permanent as it would last till he got stunned then he gains a charge and he then has to unlock a second charge
It's like Dio gains his stand in the realm
part 1 dio just fits the game a lot better
I guess
lol
It would then just be knight but worse
Cause I bet you thinking minions
You all excited to find out whats next in a couple hours?
stingy eyes orrr
So just a guy running?
could be like
Ye
he has a couple different vamp powers
and to unlock them
he needs to drain more and more blood
from people around the map
by putting your hand like in their neck
I am very
IM EXCITEDDD
So a worse version of my idea that involves the most iconic things about him
I feel like dio should just be a dark Lord skin if they add him
it’s more balanced and realistic dude
WAIT! Can we decide what they look like next vote!?
no licenses over licenses unfortunately
i was respectful about your idea
Sad
feel like you could do the same with mine
2.5second time stop isn't broken
wait dio is a vampire?
Ya
Ya
Yes
Jinx
yes it is 😂
I haven't seen Jojo
In season 1 he becomes one
in what world is a completely free hit not overpowered
I genuinely didn't even know dio was evil I thought he was like one of the heroes
plus you can zone ppl
Give him 1.4 movement
Nah he's a bad guy
stop them from getting saves
He’s satanic level of evil
Bro is cocky so he would obviously try to look cool by slow walking and being intimidating
he would be completely useless
Before he even becomes a vampire he burns someone's dog alive in a waste disposal thing
extremely unrealistic
what the fuck 😭
Yaa
You just said he would be broken and when I try balanced you change your mind you mf
Not for fun it's because it's barking annoyed him
brother your idea is ass 😭
“give them the most overpowered ability but make them move at a crawl”
Nurse
Bro if I can describe him with one or three words it would be “he’s a Dick”
makes 0 sense
1.5 then
nurse isn’t that slow?
1.5
Nurse is
Fair but she's slower and has the op ability
You obviously just want to complain as I tried combining part 1 and 3 Dio
yk most killers are 4.6 right?
Yes, most are 4.6
pointing out obvious flaws in your shitty idea 😭
I thought it was 1 then decimal
and i was being nice about it before 💔
4.4
yeah so
Doesnt dio also throw knives during timestop? That just feels like he would be stepping on tricksters and dark Lords toes
I play animatronic and it's not it actually changes
look there might be a way to make it work
dude
it’s 4.4
check the game
I feel like that would be a iri
It's 4.4 with the axe 4.6 when you throw it o belive
but like
I*
When Springtrap doesn’t have his axe, he’s 4.6
Yes
part 1 dudo would fit the game so much better
So his speed does change
Why can't it be both
p3 dio should be a skin
Why can't it be like him unlocking his stand in the realm
because time stop is overpowered and just
Part one dio didn't know how his power worked and almost died like 12 times
not fun to play against
exactly
same as in the game
slowly unlocking powers through sucking blood
You just basically want a killer with no power
this is just ragebait atp
You don't want minions or time stop and then only thing I can think of is laser eyes
have you watched part one
You are just ragebait
Yes he shot blood from his eyes
nursery comeback
dude
he also had superhuman speed
strength
he could turn things into ice
So just a fast killer
and had knives
ykw i’m gunna stop engaging
Knifes were added part 3
your such a waste of time 😭
He used ice to counter hamon
his argument stands
his argument doesn’t exist
he’s just recommending we add random overpowered bullshit dude
My argument is you want a default killer
trying to be realistic this isn’t a fanfic
Not dio
idk what that means
i want part one dio
with part 1 dios abilities
idk how that’s so hard to understand
You regect every power as the speed and strength all killers have
dude what
Just make a Dio krasue skin
dio as in jojo bizarre adventures?
yes
Yes
thad b kinda bad ass
js had an aneurysm trying to read that
You actually just want to be mean
it doesn’t make sense 😭
is he saying “that be kinda bad ass”
still doesn’t make sense but i kinda get what he means?
Trying to not really curse cause sometimes flags messages
we not allowed to swear in this server?
the game is about killing people
that’s dumb
The more curse words the more thorough it is
You can curse but to a limit
“thad b bad ass” as in “that would be bad ass” sorry i didn’t feel like sittin here n typing ts out alo💀 buh get off my dick bud
We should give the grimoire killer throwable items or a teleport that’s never been done before it would be so original
yooooo now that’s original
another teleport killer is exactly what we need
we’ve never had a “water” themed killer, maybe we could figure sum out for that
The killer is already chosen to be a divine type killer
What about the ability to move through walls at a reduced move speed and a stun kinda like at the end of legions frenzy
So no water this time
That’s exactly what Nurse does I fear
always thought it'd be cool if the divine killer punished the entity for it's sins too, in some way
Except for the reduced movement speed
hmm true true
But if that was a thing, there would be no reason to play them over nurse
Well nurse teleports I meant like actually just walking through walls like a ghost
But true
I still want a killer that can blend in with survivours too, but that wouldn't really work with a divine layout much
I guess we will see what we can vote on next in a couple of hours!
I think the next vote is just for appearance tho?
I mean I’m not entirely sure what it’s gonna be for. There’s gonna be a discord stage along with it
I got a notification from it on another server and joined this one outta curiosity, idk how this discord operates
I’m assuming it’ll be the anniversary chapter, but it could be as late as 2027
We really have no idea yet
i hope it is summer 2026...
i never been this exited about a chapter since springtrap
Ill be excited for a blending in killer of some sort, weather appearing like players or like objects in the world
what you guys think is going to be her title?
The divine?
im thinking The Righteous
That could work too
the power looks so fun too
im thinking of some builds already
like a full endgame one
or a terror radius one
i do
Killer uses divine weapons made of fog and shards and maybe it could be that he was some type of war veteran who was blown up after a grenade was thrown breaking through the glass at a church taking shrapnel and sacrificed himself and he was ignored and never thanked so he became vengeful as the entity saves him making a hero become a demon his design being a mask of shards with eyes and shards in his flesh and muscle he acts like avatar for the entity as he's experienced so much war he found hope in religion but he felt it abandoned him.
Call it Savior the entity uses the body of a fallen angel that destroyed a world the design look more demonic as more gens complete and the shrapnel from the explosion is the shards which spawn from hitting people and when for gen progress it spawns glass shards as survivors try to prevent him from collecting shards unlocking more like an axe that breaks pallets, a sword that is a fiery slam, shards that act like cameras showing aura of sinners, and wings which he gets when he gets all his shards. He can shatter the realm to move and on long cooldown and senses sin the more there is. Is a hybrid killer being slow like a trap killer but is a mix of chase and range as metal shards are ranged and slow him while glass is swift and close.
The blasphemous act is holding shards exile in the portals they can go to another world to repent. The shards which remove shards temporarily from the map are done by putting them in an altar that moves around and the artifacts are the shards. Ray uses glass shards to send beams of light that shoot through the eyes of the shards. A killer who would control shards made of metal. Was blessed by the entity as shrapnel now has eyes to see the fog and now the killer uses it to form wings. If you get caught with a lot of sin you have your soul placed on a pedestal. If someone destroys glass and metal shards while your soul is there you can get mori but you make it you reclaim your soul.
I cannot even begin to read this
It's simple
If there’s not one comma or period in a block of text, I can’t read it
I just can’t
I will lose it a few sentences in
is the killer power already decided?
Kinda but you can edit it to still fit but add more
I believe so
Like the overarching theme of the power
I edited it does it help
Yes
It's being referred to as sin
@severe fern what do you think
Is it like your own concept for a killer or what you think the grimoire killer will be like
It's my idea and possibly can be selected for the actual killer
Is the stream super late?
It‘s in an hour, 11 am EST :)
Check pinned messages
I added periods and stuff?
I will add more
I’m just having a hard time bc I’ve been severely sick recently. I’m probably not the best to ask for advice or opinions on it right now 
Thank you 🙏
I just fixed it more hope you get better
I read through this briefly, and while I personally like the concept you came up with - it still contradicts what the entity stands for.
For one, yes the entity might and does influence killers, but she doesn’t outright control them.. she manipulates. As an example: Spirit and Deathslinger both have white eyes due to the entity making them see someone they hate (Spirit sees her father, Deathslinger sees his old boss).
This means the entity likes to influence negative emotions, not only on survivors but also on killers. The entity might’ve saved your killer, but there‘s no ill intent from the entity how she influences the killer.
(a little bloated, but solid nonetheless!)
Did you not see that he sees it as a savior and hates the world
Plus influenced by a evil dead angel that makes up part of his body
My apologies, I did fly over the text briefly as mentioned
It's fine just thought to inform
but we‘ll find out more in 30 minutes anyway :)
They are making a choice today for the idea there going with
@valid valve 🚫➡️ Your message content contains flagged text
Sad
Are we pumped? I'm pumped!
I have just been making it easier for people to read
y'know the grimoire already confirms the killer is in no way human and is a literal god that ended a version of earth, right?
(also why a war vet???)
ptv
Worm fanfics have rotted my brain i read that as "path to victory"
Yes my guy though is actually half evil angel that destroyed a world and half vengeful human the entity has manipulated
Violence and reason to hate the world and see religion as a hope
It's giving so much DA OC man on god.
I mean no offense of course.
None taken
Personally, I'm expecting the killer to look as or more freakish than the Dredge does. Probably a mass of those wings and eyes the grimoire keeps showing.
So I wonder how many Grimoires were gonna have till we get the killer that we been creating
It's just meant to be a hero twisted and to forces of mortality and divinity coming together with no need for mark of negation
Mines is a corpse with shards and many eyes
Well, based on how long it usually takes to make a chapter, I'm guessing it'll be the last killer we get this year.
Agreed
Possibly we have been doing this for awhile now setting the tone for what killer we’d want
Though people hope for the killer to come out for anniversary
That’d honestly would make sense but I doubt that they will
Probably going to be Collab like Jason or Predator
There's nothing now stopping them from coming to DBD
Jason seems to be getting more and more likely every year but I dont know though
Honestly I'd be pleasantly surprised if that was the case. Assuming they played well and had good powers.
It is bhvr after all and they ain’t necessarily known for not trying to make money and dry players out especially when they like greed
But also are wild and listen to the community and do whatever it takes like they are the same company but do both good and bad
Yea they have done good so I mean I don’t know 50/50.
It’s not like they are like Activision or EA. Bhvr listens and I like it. As long as we keep things going as is game will be ok
It's good but costly
so I'm new to this Grimoire thing, what should I expect in this sneak peek?
Them to recap our previous votes and this time we are designing the survivor and killer I believe
Is the sneak peek on Youtube or just Discord?
Some have actually never voted for the grimoire before and some have been there every step of the way
from what I read it's the killer's apperance,
also I'm more new-new, I am a returning player and only yesterday that I looked at what was already voted in.
I mean they want us to make a killer being design its lore, more parts to the power, and how they look and work
Im curious: does anyones designed killer/survivor actaully even get chosen to be put in the game? Or is it just for a concept?
Both I think
looks like the des are getting ready
Do you want to see my idea
Where can we watch? I haven't caught the stream before.
Discord
Idk that's all they said was discord
There's a Grimoire Sneak Peek channel
I see it
I dont see it
it's in announcements
Its a call
Oh I see it now
Its starting in a minute
yee i assume they'll unlock it when its ready
hi
MANDY'S BACKGROUND LOOKS CRAZY
UR ICONIC MANDYYY
what the fuck is Grimoire
damn, there's already over 750 people in the audiance and counting
Anyone ever realize we don't have a killer with an ice power yet (unless you count cosmetics)
The community vote even for our own chapter
Mmm, Grim Moris
Announced last anniversary was a weekly thing for a bit
i need to know what it issss
it's over 1000!
9001 before we say it's over

Dave is in the blur void.
mb wrong channel
OMG ITS THE DIVINE
visuals woo!
i'm so scared
Please be angelic
It isn’t open for me…
pog
wait when is this chapter coming out?
Can we give the angel killer feet
Probably a year
Have their feet chopped off just for saying this
With chains shackled around the ankles
aww alright. something to look forward to then
Meatball killer
Heavenly feet
Stay tuned.
BHVR always does a great job subverting normal character designs, like their version of a Krasue and a pirate with Houndmaster, so I’m really excited with what they’re cooking with the Angel Killer!
Might either be anniversary or just fitted into a slot lmao
These look beautiful.
where do we vote?
what is grimoire
voting
can anyone explain what is going on in in class
oh this is so hard
Oh this one is going to be tough to choose.
For the killer, a mix between 1 and two would be awesome, I don’t like the spaghetti on the legs of the 2nd one
can somebody give me info about wth is happening
we need an older lady i think
Idk how to vote 🥲
Love them all honestly
i'm in school and don't know
for me, it's 2 for killer and 3 for surivor
1 is probably going to win
first one
Please 3
2 seems the best tbh for killer
i like 1
woo!
I love the 1st one. The 3rd one was potentially interesting but it just looks ridiculous and not scary
wheres the link to the voting
DEFINITELY 4
2 Looks a lot like Adam
1 or 2 for killer. who agrees? and for survivor 1 or 3
Did they talk about 2v8?
i like 1 the most
I hope for my idea to make it
3 we have no old women
2 is great for survivor aswell
i want 4 he looks like dave mustaine
1 or 2 for killer. who agrees? and for survivor 1 or 3
I reckon 3 would be the coolest addition
3 or 2 for me
We have to many 1’s
Survivor 1 and 4 are winning my favor
1st
1
4 or 2 for survivor
def not 3 for the miller
Bro Dave mustaine as a survivor is peak
1 or 2 for killer. who agrees? and for survivor 1 or 3
2 is so cool but he’s definitely not going to win and that makes me so sad
Yeah, 2 killer and 3 survivor
1
Where do we vote ?
1 or 2 for killer. who agrees? and for survivor 1 or 3
first one is the besy
2 for killer and 4 for survivor
suruvior 1 or 3, i like 3 please
2 is so cool for both ngl
An older woman would be cool to have in the game so I’m definitely voting 3
Killer design 1 for me
3!!!
1 or 2 for killer
1
3 definitely is best, got a scar and everything
i'll be real, i think option two should be altered to be less humanoid if it wins
yall we've got old men, we need an old woman. it's time for GILF season
2
3
older female character oh my god i love 3
The first one is perfect however the spider legs aren’t doing it for me. Regular legs would keep the angelic and regal feel
real
yall vote for 2
Killer 1 and Survivor 3 100%
where do we vote
maybe 1 or 2
1 for killer
1 for survivor
RIGHT NOW 🥹
3 looks like carol from twd
1
2 Feels like an older Adam
3 it must be 3, and 2 for killer
3 or 4
2 for killer cause it fits the most with divine without being TOO humanoid, and gotta be 3 for survivor, we need more old survivors
Killer 2, survivor 4
3 we need a hag PLEASE
3 is the most unique i'd say, we don't have any old women in the game rn
We need a old woman please 🙏
I think 1 or 4 is great
can a mod pin a link to the grimoire vote?
There's a website they will be dropping here soon
need more male survivors
They look great, but I'm going with 4, we kinda need more Male Survivors anyway
2 killer 1 survivor
3 for killer
3 for survivor
It's either 1 or 2 for killer....
And 3 for survivor, the other options are...too survivorish
1 !!!!!!!!!!!!
Where do I vote ?
I actually really like 4
3
we dont have an old woman
we dont need to vote for the 1st survivor thats just sable fused with haddie
1 Killer 4 Survivor
'Do not be afraid, this is your divine purpose.'
make no 2 be a gym rat.!!
3 Looks respectable and hardened by their life and experiences.
didnt you make the idea of The Divine?
I like the spider legs because it adds to the cosmic horror
what the killers look like
the killer needs to be 2 and the survivor i cant even decide
It's the easiest vote in history, vote for 3 on both
not 1 we do not need an another sable lets give 3 or 4 a chance
if the other designs for the killer dont get used i hope they end up as skins atleast i LOVE the third design
yun jin is canonically like 50
3 looks so awesome 
2 killer 1 survivor
Completely agree
OLD WOMAN PLEASE WE HAVE ENOUGH YOUNG WOMEN
Bro
Ehh true but we should save it for pennywise
Yes! It’s so cool!
1 or 2 will be best for killer but I hope they reuse 3 for a different killer cause it looks cool af
3 is peak survivor
oh dear
oh mein gott
2 or 3 imo
No mine was The Savior
Option 2 Would be cool as hell to make the angel more freaky.
Option 3. Don't see a reality where a badass grandma doesn't enter the fog to fight an angel.
where do I vote
someone send me the killer vote thing
KAKEGUIRI MASHO!!!
3 or 4 TBA
kakegurui
Yeah but she doesn't look like it, we don't have many visually old survivors
does she look it?
no
GIVE US A PROPER OLD WOMAN
4
i would say 1 for survivor
Shhh
3
badass grandma fighting angel 2 would be so sick
how old is vittorio?
Need some cookies to be baked in the fog. NOW
OMG I FREAKING LOVE IT ,i honestly thing they are so cool i think we should vote the siloutte 2 of the killer.
and the old lady is intriguing she calls a lot she servingg
we need more men
4th survivor 1st killer
i first thought 1 but i think 4 might be better
3 because we just got a girl with dark hair we need a hag bro
4 Gives off paladin vibes. Feels like they'd be the paladin in a DND campaign.
Where do I vote
aggreed
gonna get zero cosmetics
I was hoping one of them would be native american
I'm between 3 and 4 for survivor
THE 3TH SURVIVOR LOOKS LIKE CAROL FROM TWD
4
FR
leaning towards 3
this is genuinely peak idk
Even Vittorio looks more middle aged than senior-esque, he looks more 40 to me. I want someone visually OLD like Bill
we need 3 badly
We still dont have an indigenous character in game 
WE
They better have cool halo cosmetics or I will personally send disappointed letters to their headquarters
I really like the old lady survivor
4th survivor looks like someone who would accidentally ruin the entire world
the claw legs are AMAZING
@proper thistle thegrimoire.deadbydaylight.com
Where can I vote .
VOTE FOR SURVIVOR NUMBER 3
That's exactly what i wanted the killer to be tbh
I like the blue black hair, but the older woman looks interesting.
am i wrong for saying that i hate all 3 of the killer silhouettes 🥹
Chat I need to roleplay as my old man arc we need number 4 so I go into the Dave mustaine winter arc
WE NEED AN OLDER LADY
The 3rd survivor
3 because I’m an older woman and i want representation lol.
Seems like a avatar for the entity
Where do I go to so I can vote?
What do you think would be better?
I thought the second version of the killer looked like a twisted angel
Fr she is needed badly in dbd
the goons are gonna vote for the first survivor
Guys please do not vote a blue haired woman when the other choices are a bearded washed up dude a badass old lady and a wasted ginger
Who the heck do I pick? I genuinely want all of them xD
Call me basic, but I really like the look of Survivor 1.
Give her heterochromia and the scar of Survivor 3 and I think she'd be perfect!
All the killer choices are cool, but 2 I think fits the most with the divine theme
Not a big fan of survivors 1 and 2
The spider legs take away from the angelic look. It should be regular legs to present something that resembles a human, yet is clearly a league beyond it
i don't know i just know that i don't want it to look like a human at all
Please not another Sable
3!!!
Wait ur the same person oops
3 is so much better
Option 3 genuinely looks more like Blumhouse Laurie than actual Laurie herself.
Survivor 3 is winning this let's be real
when will it come out?
We need an old survivor that! Vote 3
Second survivor is so hot cuz he looks like he’s been through some bullshit
nah i like the spider legs
where can i vote for the grimoire
I guess I am a good then, but then again I main Sable 😉
Nah. The entity would be way less humanoid. More esoteric.
I mean at least the first 2 have wings
I'm not sure on the giant screaming head angel concept
did they show the killers yet?
Yes ! She looks badass asf
Noooo I want an angel killer not a spider hybrid
yes
Honestly I expected something worse for the Divine’s possible designs. No shade, I had high expectations, but HOLY F
CK these are nuts!
If anyone has noticed. The "light" in the background is a little sus considering the angel like killer design 
We got too many women in the game bro
Supernatural fit perfectly for the angel concept
it looks fucking ridiculous
Garrett bobby Ferguson looking ahh
for killer, I'm more towards 2, 1 is my second, I don't want 3, a big face is not scary
I think a humanoid aspect is important especially if they were a deity figure, but not super heavy.
and not in a good way
that big head is really sick
someone dm me the killer choices im in class lol
The claws though
#I LOVE MEN (in dead by daylight)
they're gonna release it after
3 dope asf
omg 1 is so peak
3 is by far the most unique, we need old lady rep
2 is the best
prefer 2
still do it pls
Survivor 3 is winning this
we need the real hag of dbd
4th survivor hair is amazing
Exactly
3 is my favorite for the Angel, looks fantastic!
4 is the best
Honestly long as survivor 1 doesn't win I'm happy
If survivor 1 wins I will be so disappointed ☹️
What if Hag is the ascended humanoid killer
The wings could spread out or close based on the status of their power, perhaps
An older woman is cool but i was hoping the first one would be a poc
amazing username
Honest
i think the only way they could pull of a humanoid looking angelic and intimidating is if they make it just a glowing figure, you know what i mean?
same
Thank you
All killer designs look sick
