@spare yacht shout out to olazabal...58 year old who won the masters in 1994/99 for making the cut lol
#sports-discussion
dark flare
Ronaldo winning over messi and pele lol
If it's r9 then that would make more sense but even then it's very doubtable
rocky ravine
prime ice
Not even a question
drifting drift
messi
last oracle
he thought we'd all vote ronaldo 😭
prime ice
Nah city fans are overhyping doku so much
How long has it been since he was involved in a goal 😂
dark flare
So like anyone watching ufc?
still finch
MAX HOLLOWAY!!
stray lintel
Nah city fans are overhyping doku so much
They're calling him babydhino 🤣 shameless fanbase who only exist online 😂
drowsy seal
you weren't confident about that weeks ago?
echo ore
🖐️
drowsy seal
pathetic last three games
echo ore
The United game took the wind out of the team
drowsy seal
at least we won't lose it solely because of the spurs offside and arsenal handball
would've been outrage
craggy flume
prime ice
I didn't watch the match
Was it really that poor?
I hope city win the league now
I don't want to hear arsenal fans to think they're the best in England after winning the epl
dark flare
you weren't confident about that weeks ago?
Shouldve been confident all year around
Should also be confident in the next year and etc...
after all the premier league is a wish version of bundesliga
In the meanwhile you can't tell who will win the la liga next year
pure goblet
Liverpool blew it
last oracle
you weren't confident about that weeks ago?
now i am
dark flare
Wow
And people told me the premier league was the hardest league huh
Gosh
Man city winns
(Again)
For those that doubted what I had said, man city's back-to-back treble win looks closer than ever 🤷
hybrid sail
arsenal bigger bottlers than spurs
prime ice
For those that doubted what I had said, man city's back-to-back treble win looks...
I hope it doesn't happen
I have a strong feeling man city and arsenal will both drop points to spurs and Liverpool will still win
dark flare
City has the easiest matches here onwards and arsenal is cooked in that regard
liverpool isn't playing well
I think it's pretty much confirmed tbh
I would say arsenal is 90% out and liverpool is the only one to maybe win it over man city
echo ore
Dude is yapping about a team with a 2 point lead...where every other league is at least 8 or higher
dark flare
a league whose winner is known before the league plays is by premier league fans' own definition a farmers league
nothing you could say against that tbh, maybe just play better
dark flare
I would say arsenal is 90% out and liverpool is the only one to maybe win it ove...
liverpool has to hope that man city drops points against washed teams while hoping they themselves don't drop points btw
it's all on man city whether they win the premier league or nah
echo ore
a league whose winner is known before the league plays is by premier league fans...
Lmao you're lying it you think they were winning at the beginning 
dark flare
Lmao you're lying it you think they were winning at the beginning <a:lol:8281206...
i'm not lying though
i have a reason to think so
idk what to say man
echo ore
After week 10 city were in 3rd with tottenham in first
Week 15 city were in 4
6 pts behind the leader
So you're absolutely lying to yourself and everyone cause you support multiple teams
dark flare
It's a known thing for the premier league to go chaos
But so is a known thing that after all that chaos the trophy always ends up in pep's hands
With klopp leaving you can be even more confident that man city wins it all over again next year, and the year after that
Like it has been happening for almost a decade now and will be easier to happen as liverpool will go back to the dinosaur club it used to be 🤷
echo ore
You mean the English club with the most champions leagues? You truly don't know anything about footy
dark flare
Congrats liverpool for their dinosaur champions leagues
It's not for everybody to be an actual and eternal class of a club like real madrid
echo ore
Just started following them last year and wants to be apart of their greatness
dark flare
Liverpool's best player at 1984: 🦖
You can talk bad about me, but never argue against what I say
Because what I say is nothing but what happened, is happening and will most likely happen
echo ore
I mean you're still a glory chaser and what you say matters little
dark flare
ok now argue against what I said
echo ore
Reality is still you know nothing about football or even the teams you say you support
dark flare
ok now argue against what I said
echo ore
If liverpool are dinosaur champions league how many do you get to remove from real madrid
echo ore
Why would liverpool be 1?
What year is your cutoff?
Can't wait for another cherry picked year
dark flare
I would say anything before 1989-1990 tbh
echo ore
Lmfao he picked a year to make sure it affected liverpool more than Madrid
dark flare
Before 89 is when you start seeing teams that recently have been completely irrelevant lol
echo ore
By what logic?
dark flare
that they don't win anything? Whatsoever?
echo ore
Why is 89 the year you chose to decide
dark flare
Because of aston villa nottingham forest psv "steaua" (i dont even know what that is)
dark flare
they are irrelevant today, all of them
echo ore
But they've won something
dark flare
If you don't win, you aren't scary, you have no aura
echo ore
Interesting logic there
dark flare
You could go one decade lower than 89 to 79-80 and liverpool would have 4 titles against 7 by real madrid
dark flare
LM10 or cr7????
I need opinions please😓 my friend is brain dead
echo ore
It's always messi and it's never been a real debate
dark flare
Btw I hadnt counted liverpool's 2005 title
echo ore
Shocked to see more cherry picking
dark flare
89-90+ liverpool has 2 and 79-80+ liverpool has 4
If you go any lower you watch pele playing his last years
lol
And tbh the discussion has never been about real vs liverpool and instead what's happening and has been happening in the pl, idk why you got all defensive for a team you don't support
echo ore
Figured he'd be your favorite player based off glory
echo ore
Because you admitted to chasing glory
Multiple times
Even tried to defend it saying you're happier lol
dark flare
i never really did, i just said whatever made you guys comfortable
echo ore
You literally said glory chaser are happier
dark flare
yeah, and i was joking with yall calling me a glory chaser lol
echo ore
I'd backpedal also
dark flare
a you problem
if the argument keeps going back and forth to calling me a glory chaser when you're left with nothing to say then I rest my case
imma play some rl
echo ore
I mean you didn't even know levekusen was a team and now you call them the best in the world
You constantly go out of your way to defend teams
dark flare
i gave reasons as to why leverkusen could be the best team rn in the world city counted
dark flare
It's always messi and it's never been a real debate
😫🙏🏻
one example being that they 3-0 bayern, the same bayern that 2-2 pl's best team at their home
Ronaldo the goat bru
echo ore
No he isn't
edgy hamlet
Has anyone heard the news about the Arizona Coyotes?
dark flare
No he isn't
Not surprised u say that w ur username
echo ore
one example being that they 3-0 bayern, the same bayern that 2-2 pl's best team ...
So you're saying you can use that to say teams are better?
dark flare
If the only excuse for arsenal having lost is that they are not as experienced as bayern in the cl, yes
dark flare
shaktar is not unbeaten champions of a top 5 league
nor are they europa league favourites
echo ore
Bayern isn't either
dark flare
Leverkusen is
echo ore
Yea so why use bayern
dark flare
Because they are undoubtedly one of the best teams in the world? Lol
So you're doubting bayern's prowess now?
that's crazy
echo ore
No I'm using your logic to say shaktar is better than psg
dark flare
Well I gave you reasons why the logic is unusable for shaktar
shaktar was lucky to win against barcelona
Leverkusen did it with merit
Leverkusen doubters are funny tbh
They can go on to win the treble unbeaten and they still "wouldn't make it out of the group stages"
echo ore
Europa doesn't count as a treble
And by your other logic we can assume they are the new kings of bundeliga correct?
So we can say they'll win again easily
Farmers league moment
🥱
dark flare
Winning twice in a row is not a farmers league moment lol
A farmers league moment is the possibility that the same team wins the league the fourth time in a row
You can print what I say here
echo ore
16 points separating 1st and 2nd seems pretty farmers to me
dark flare
If leverkusen players stay (because otherwise it's unpredictable), leverkusen will go to at least the semi-finals of the cl
dark flare
16 points separating 1st and 2nd seems pretty farmers to me
Congrats for leverkusen having toyed with bayern 13 consecutive times champions I guess 🤷
Bundesliga is a terrible league that I know
But leverkusen is one of the best teams in the world right now, WITH NO DOUBTS above both arsenal AND liverpool
Which is destined to be even more belieavable after arsenal gets eliminated from the cl by bayern
Liverpool it should already be confirmed
echo ore
Comparing teams not even in the same tourney is funny
dark flare
tell atalanta to stop scoring against liverpool at anfield
rancid umbra
They won't do it again this season
echo ore
Also acting like liverpool weren't 3-0 to barce once
rancid umbra
This Liverpool team is outta steam I think
echo ore
Well with prem outta sight they can start a good team
echo ore
Commendable
rancid umbra
We've somehow accidentally single-handedly derailed their season 
echo ore
It's also interesting that if we use the recent wins logic...wouldn't Aston villa be in 2nd in the bundesliga?
4th place in the prem better than bayern
prime ice
Spurs and arsenal will most likely lose to spurs
Call me crazy but I still have Liverpool to win the league
echo ore
I'm calling you crazy
They're probably playing 120 against atalanta...and then will have to rest legs for fulham...probably draw there
dark flare
if you think liverpool will tie atalanta then you're just as crazy as the other guy
echo ore
? Why would that be crazy to think lol
dark flare
because it's liverpool
dark flare
Yeah the 3-0 at anfield atalanta lol
echo ore
Yea if only there wasn't another time when a liverpool was 3-0 down to a small club like barce
prime ice
? Why would that be crazy to think lol
It is pretty crazy lol
But yes I can also see that happening
echo ore
Again...this club is literally historically known for stupid comebacks in europe
dark flare
Yea if only there wasn't another time when a liverpool was 3-0 down to a small c...
Seems like liverpool is consistently bad
prime ice
But on the other hand city have Madrid at home then they play Chelsea in the fa cup and then 5 days later Brighton away
Julio Enciso wondergoal again?
dark flare
Was it at their home?
dark flare
I rest my case
echo ore
So now we think they cant beat atalanta?
rancid umbra
City don't even have an aura this year
prime ice
Agreed
dark flare
that's why everybody is scared of them right?
prime ice
Well city will probably lose against spurs at the Hotspur stadium
rancid umbra
City aren't that scary this year
prime ice
I can see that happening
rancid umbra
Plus I'm a United fan so every team is scary
echo ore
City definitely not even close to scary
prime ice
Well depends if city pay the refs
dark flare
yall say that as they 3-3 at bernabeu lol
prime ice
True lol
dark flare
saying city is not scary is delusion
prime ice
I just don't want to see city winning UCL again this season
prime ice
saying city is not scary is delusion
As a Chelsea fan they're not scary
rancid umbra
saying city is not scary is delusion
Not really, City by their standards are poor this season
dark flare
you are next tbh
echo ore
City is scary but arsenal who got 4 points off them aren't
prime ice
Poch may be a fraud but he knows how to cook against city lol
dark flare
City is scary but arsenal who got 4 points off them aren't
Yeah and it's also arsenal that's out of pl discussion
rancid umbra
Pep's the real fraud, struggled to get a result off of Ole's United
prime ice
Yes
dark flare
and that is scared they won't qualify to the semi-finals
prime ice
Lost 4 times in one season lol
echo ore
Remember when they were 100 points in a season
echo ore
That is the definition of scary
rancid umbra
6 games to go, City are only 2 points ahead
Man's giving it like the title's done
And like they haven't cheated 115 separate times to build the team to do it
echo ore
Also fair
rancid umbra
I mean that's the thing right
echo ore
Do I think the prem has a spine tho
rancid umbra
This City team have been unreal
but we all know they cheated to get it, even if they get acquited by bribing the FA enoughy
prime ice
Agreed
echo ore
I mean they are already planning on changing rules this summer
rancid umbra
Awful rule change btw
prime ice
I mean they are already planning on changing rules this summer
Ah yes
So that means there's probably a good chance they won't get punished
rancid umbra
"We're changing the rules? Make sure they work and target Everton first"
prime ice
Target anyone that's not city or chelsea
rancid umbra
It's funny how blatant both City's and Chelsea's is
echo ore
Ah yes...the new rules set to take place June 5th...9 days before the transfer window opens
Interesting
echo ore
@rancid umbra Ever been a golf fan?
stoic agate
Im finna start my own
crisp lance
MAN CITY IS THE BEST FOOTBALL TEAM OF ALL TIME
final ivy
Liverpool on top
zenith lava
Liverpool and arsenal bottled
rancid umbra
<@224552822199287808> Ever been a golf fan?
Tried to get into it but just never stuck
slim sleet
MAN CITY IS THE BEST FOOTBALL TEAM OF ALL TIME
even as a man city fan, its not bro
barcelona and madrid hold that
zenith lava
MAN CITY IS THE BEST FOOTBALL TEAM OF ALL TIME
Delusion is wild
woven sable
nah liverpool m8
woven sable
ye
prime ice
Rn there's not really a clear best team itw rn
torn fossil
madrid are ded at the etihad
💀💀💀
main panther
@echo ore how u holding up😭
echo ore
perfectly fine. didnt need to spend 1bil to take 3 points lol
main panther
perfectly fine. didnt need to spend 1bil to take 3 points lol
Good or else you’d be in league 2 by now😂
Palmer standin on business
5-0👀👀
echo ore
chelsea cheating AND needing the most penalty goals in prem history in the same season is kinda wild
for a team not even gonna make europe
dark flare
Premier league difficulty in which multiple players can score multiple hattricks in a single season
echo ore
harry kane has 4 hat tricks this season in his first year in the bundesliga
echo ore
not only that...hes the first player to ever do that in his first season
main panther
Cole palmer smokes that Everton pack🚬
last oracle
Dyche ball on top
jolly cypress
i just saw jalen brunson
W
weak magnet
N
lost tapir
I like horse racing
exotic tulip
not only that...hes the first player to ever do that in his first season
kane will win a trophy confirmed??
echo ore
Nope lol
prime ice
The kane curse
En route to lose yet another UCL final if they beat arsenal and then Madrid/city
rancid umbra
PSG really are just scared of the late stages of the UCL
(and now I've said that, they're coming back)
echo ore
not with dembele
rancid umbra
I'm like a minute behind because I'm watching it through the web player
Speaking of a minute behind, my food is now officially late
echo ore
i get the multicast stream here
echo ore
echo ore
well I have a kebab so who's the real winner here
i got italian bean soup
rancid umbra
So I'm the winner, got it
echo ore
i enjoy my meat not on a stick
rancid umbra
donner kebab, not shish-kebab
echo ore
cancelo is pocketing hakimi and dembele at the same time
another dortmund goal
3-2 to dortmund
agg
dark flare
Cmon mbappeee
You will hattrick messilona
Why is he playing mid and not on the top left corner
they are not using mbappe to his full power
rancid umbra
Mbappe was playing?
dark flare
He will
Tbh a dembele goal will hurt barca fans the most
so i wouldnt mind if mbappe only gave assists as long as psg goes to the semifinal instead of barca
rancid umbra
Idk he hasn't done anything in 2 hours of football against barca so far
what a finish
Barca have lost their bottle
They'll be lucky to finish with 10 men on the pitch at this rate
echo ore
hows that not a pen tho
echo ore
yea but he gives that in the middle of the pitch
echo ore
OH what a header in the dortmund game
rancid umbra
Correa goal or ANOTHER one
echo ore
new goal
rancid umbra
Time to stick that game on my phone
echo ore
4-4 agg
rancid umbra
Sabitzeeeeer
echo ore
OH WHAT A HIT
rancid umbra
Don't remember the last time Athletico conceded this many tbf
Forgot Marco Asensio existed
ayyy marco reus
What were Barca doing there
echo ore
lmfao man down trying to play short corners
rancid umbra
literally passed it to Mbappe 3 yards from goal
dark flare
MBAPPEEEEE
rancid umbra
The man's been shocking both legs and got gifted two goals
echo ore
no clue what kounde doing there lol
echo ore
too many low iq moments from barce all night
rancid umbra
Lewa's legs have gone
cloud sonnet
yo
limber root
I love seeing barca like this
rancid umbra
This is why no one takes you seriously 
dark flare
idc what yall have to say about me
and btw not taking seriously while arguing with me most days in the week is false
atletico and barca out thats what matters
limber root
And madrid is gonna get smoked tomorrow
dark flare
they said that about psg and dortmund
rancid umbra
Brother I think it was one argument on a Saturday chill
dark flare
vini bellingham and rodrygo will do wonders tomorrow
and haaland will still be inside rudiger's pocket
rancid umbra
Thought you wanted haaland to succeed
dark flare
I want vini jr to succeed more
After all he is brazilian and was revealed from my club
Plus man city is cringe
boring playstyle
echo ore
Brother I think it was one argument on a Saturday chill <:Kek:587837631035998208...
He was also the one about how la liga is the best league but also is cheering la liga teams crumbling lol
echo ore
I'd say the same to you but you follow multiple
dark flare
yeah I do
echo ore
So 
dark flare
ok
👍😭🤣
Both dortmund AND bayern being 16+ points away from leverkusen and I have to hear from yall that they aren't all that 💀
if they were in the cl the ones most likely to win would be them, real and city
echo ore
damn who couldve guessed he'd be a levekusen, real madrid, mbappe, AND City fan
the coincidences are unreal
dark flare
it's crazy how if I say someone or some club is good you go and say I am a fan of theirs lol
just like you did when I mentioned pele the sligthest possible lol
And no im not a city fan nor a real fan nor a mbappe fan nor a leverkusen fan
I am a vini jr and haaland fan
Like Ive said multiple times before
😍
main panther
I am a vini jr and haaland fan
U just tried to say something without actually saying it..😭
exotic tulip
it's crazy how if I say someone or some club is good you go and say I am a fan o...
That's actually true, on another point leverkusen is on fire, 16 point difference is wild
Kane really is cursed
dark flare
U just tried to say something without actually saying it..😭
Ah yes I am the almighty real madrid and man city fan that watched nothing of cr7 and aguero runs and ignores both clubs all day 🤣
main panther
Ah yes I am the almighty real madrid and man city fan that watched nothing of cr...
U cant ignore real and city💀 even more when ur a fan of vini & haaland…. On top of all that how can u not be a fan of the best 2 teams in the world rn💀
dark flare
U cant ignore real and city💀 even more when ur a fan of vini & haaland…. On top...
It seems I was mistaken when I thought who decides what I am a fan of is myself
Tbh idk why a chelsea fan is speaking rn
yall are worst than man city
main panther
Tbh idk why a chelsea fan is speaking rn
No shi sherlock💀
open summit
main panther
Changed the subject twice 😂
main panther
Yall can hate me and I will always be here anyways 😘
We obviously dont hate u…
dark flare
targeting me all day for what I like is something you would only do if you despised me
or if you're a trash human being in general
rancid umbra
We don't target you all day 
exotic tulip
We don't target you all day <:blobslightsmile:829011446011527240>
ong bro
Idk who's even targeting you
unborn shore
prime ice
Gotta be realistic as much as I don't want them to win
sharp whale
is it bad that I have no idea what either of those are? 😂
sharp whale
I'm young (I think)
rancid umbra
I wouldn't think, causes stress
rancid umbra
No double treble for city 
echo ore
shockers from haaland and vini 
dark flare
just like with saka
just like with mbappe
every star player played bad today and yesterday
Vini at least was the one who "assisted" (not really) the rm goal
although everybody was important for that goal
rancid umbra
Big up Lunin, lad was class
last oracle
that penalty from bernardo..
dark flare
Btw if yall dont mind if i ask
Where is the premier league in the cl semi-finals?
🤔
dire zenith
Where is the premier league in the cl semi-finals?
Germany league without they leader>premier league XD
main panther
the audacity to call bundesliga a farmers league
U bring up stuff that no one talks about no more… no wonder u feel targeted lmao😭
dark flare
I mean if the best team in your league takes 70 minutes to score their first goal when they have 68% possession then yall shouldn't overhype the pl 🤷
Never mention the pl as an argument against vini jr again
echo ore
The best team in your league packing it in the box begging for pens is not a good argument either
dark flare
Why should it matter if at the end of the day real won?
At the end the city possession stopped too and real had their chances
Rudiger almost made it 1-2 but was too anxious
And went for the shot too early
Was an open net tbh
echo ore
And reality is the only reason real goes thru this year is because they removed the away goal rule
dark flare
The away goal rule doesn't even make sense anyway
It means that scoring more away means you're better
But if scoring more away means you're better, then what stops you from doing even better at home?
it's a contradiction
And tbh there's no point in a two game qualification if you consider away goals
vapid atlas
weak meadow
love it
shut spoke
Cristiano is so overrated
Messi is the 🐐
And Real Madrid played well today it was an awesome match Fr
dark flare
Everything went well today and yesterday
Barcelona and atletico losing
Arsenal and city losing
All that's left is that we get a psg vs real madrid final
and madrid wins of course
If they do get scored on even once for the rest of the tournament idk what to say
their defense today was just too good and against the best team in the world
gentle vector
City was the only real challenge it should be easy for Madrid now
hidden lodge
madrid r gonna win icl
their team is too good
imagine psg vs real and mbappe wins it for them
and then he joins real in the summer
rancid umbra
I mean if the best team in your league takes 70 minutes to score their first goa...
I mean Madrid played for the draw so they could have pens and they got it
They're the best team in their league and they played scared
Also was Vini Jr playing? Didn't see him or Haaland all night
pure goblet
Also was Vini Jr playing? Didn't see him or Haaland all night
Vini and Haaland started the game then got subbed off
rancid umbra
I saw Haaland get subbed off
dark flare
I mean Madrid played for the draw so they could have pens and they got it
They'...
Tbh for a supposed best team in the world to not score once in 100+ minutes in total (not consecutively) even though the entire time they had been attacking is more of a nice job from real madrid than something to brag about from man city
dark flare
Also was Vini Jr playing? Didn't see him or Haaland all night
He 'assisted' rodrygo, didn't get the number because ederson saved rodrygo's shot at first
rancid umbra
Brother I don't really care, happy to see city go out
exotic tulip
Brother I don't really care, happy to see city go out
lmao same, they don't deserve a ucl
dark flare
Brother I don't really care, happy to see city go out
Me too
Haaland is finished tbh hate to see it
Or rather, man city is finishing haaland
his numbers stay the same as past years, but he really has to stop being a box striker
he has the pace strength and finishing to be better than just a toy for guardiola
It's sad however that there are almost no clubs for him to go
None in the pl if i'm being honest
Would hate to see him going to atletico or barcelona aswell, fake teams, although if I'm being honest barcelona would be a perfect place for him
Inter milan is interesting for him
rancid umbra
Haaland would suit a much more direct and physical team
main panther
Haaland would suit a much more direct and physical team
Seria a?
Maybe back to germany, but I dont rlly see him playing in any other league unless for the money
echo ore
@rancid umbra 5min in...liverpool goal
rancid umbra
How did I know it was a pen
echo ore
It's one of those dumb ones that always get called now
rancid umbra
Emi Martinez just got sent off in the villa shoot-out
rancid umbra
Nevermind, the ref's changed his mind?
ref had the yellow card out as a warning that he would book him again
Just conference league things
echo ore
Salah has been poor
echo ore
Not many are tbf
rancid umbra
Stuttered run ups for pens are stupid btw
should be banned with all the restrictions that are on keepers
echo ore
I've always said that
rancid umbra
Or do the old MLS version
echo ore
If they can stutter keepers should be able to come of the line as soon as the whistle blows
Old mls is the best by far
And its not even close
rancid umbra
Old MLS was so much fairer too
For normal penalties it should stay from the spot
But for shootouts? bring in the MLS
Apparently, yellow cards given during normal and extra time do not carry over into penalty shoutouts
today I learned
echo ore
News to me
echo ore
Salah missing easy 1v1
echo ore
Keeper in no mans land...just needs to lift it...misses the frame
rancid umbra
Atalanta just got one chalked off for offside
echo ore
I think you got like 5s on me
rancid umbra
42 now
echo ore
10s
rancid umbra
im 10 ahead?
echo ore
Yes
echo ore
West ham up on levekusen 👀
rancid umbra
That's a natural position for his arm
I appreciate it's away from his body, but it's keeping his balance
echo ore
It'd be called against everton
rancid umbra
It's been called against united a couple times
And both the pundits who used to play for Liverpool saying Atalanta should be a man down too
rancid umbra
yknow
European football has felt a little less exciting since they binned the away goals rule
last oracle
leverkusen could actually lose here
main panther
leverkusen could actually lose here
They will tie with 5 secs left like always
rancid umbra
Just Leverkusen things
rancid umbra
West Ham losing their heads
Leverkusen leverkusening
oh no, Liverpool are out, gosh darn
silver halo
1. Bundesliga
2. PL
3. Seria A
4. La Liga
5. Ligue 1
if this is jut a random top 5 in regard to league quality then no.
main panther
if this is jut a random top 5 in regard to league quality then no.
Random, just based off this season
silver halo
just off europe and that?
main panther
just off europe and that?
Yuh
acoustic sparrow
i love sports.
mellow silo
dark flare
oh no, Liverpool are out, gosh darn
It's normal for pl teams
And they said liverpool were the favourites for the europa league smh
Bro I just realized that no pl clubs are in the champions league nor the europa league
🤣
silver halo
Bro I just realized that no pl clubs are in the champions league nor the europa ...
having to make the fa cup more elitist since they're not winning in europe
dark flare
Why is vini jr not in the ballon d'or discussion but bellingham is 😭
He has literally been playing better than bellingham even though he was injured for a whole 2 months 😭
It must be because of euros or solely because bellingham is european
rancid umbra
You're right, becuase the Ballon D'Or is very european player focused
echo ore
If only a certain non European didn't have the most smh
prime ice
Guys thiago Silva or vvd
Imo thiago Silva he's been doing it at the top for as long as van dijks prime ( what was it only one season I swear he's a one season wonder)
drowsy seal
a one season wonder in multiple seasons
prime ice
Imo he's not better than Silva tho
This season and last he's been so overrated
This season people were saying he's back to his prime, I don't think so
Ok actually he's not a one season wonder that's just me being salty but i personally think thiago is better
main panther
If only a certain non European didn't have the most smh
🇦🇷
echo ore
Those Europeans smh
dark flare
Those Europeans smh
Give me a reason why bellingham is over vini
Even though vini himself has 500+ less minutes and 2 g/a less than bellingham
While also having the same g/a as bellingham in the cl with one game less than him
assisted TWICE against city aswell
While bellingham ghosted
If vini was at least top 2 for most people then aight
But people are putting him on SEVENTH PLACE
main panther
Give me a reason why bellingham is over vini
Taller, stronger, has bout the same skills as vini, just low on trophies thats it
main panther
plus vini jr owns the cl
.. thats not a fact if u want one
dark flare
Check the most g/a in the last 3 cl
main panther
Check the most g/a in the last 3 cl
Doesnt count for balon dOr this season doe..
dark flare
Sure, I understand
But even then vini surpasses bellingham in the cl
This cl
I'm not saying bellingham vs vini jr is not a debate, it's just that everybody is taking it like that
rancid umbra
I'd expect Vini to be roughly even on goals with Bellingham though considering Vini's been primarily used as a striker according to transfermarkt
dark flare
Sofascore is telling me he's still playing as lw
heatmap and stuff
But tbh bellingham vs vini is very debatable
But ppl are not taking it like that
They have put messi with the possibility that he wins copa america over vini jr
Simply outrageous bro
haaland, foden, all above him
even RODRI
Harry kane is understandable however
echo ore
was looking at sofascore but failed to miss that bellingham has more G+A as a midfielder in both la liga and ucl, and average match rating is the best on madrid for both comps as well.
whereas vini is barely making the top 5 for match rating in la liga
and is 3rd for UCL
one is clearly having the better season
This dude has this heatmap and leads the team in G+A in both comps
yea its not even a close debate lol
dark flare
Yeah i can see his midfielding on that heatmap
And btw his position as a midfielder doesn't matter if he plays as an attacker
And I'd advise you to look onto vini's minutes before you speak tbh
echo ore
i dont care about minutes when hes an attacker and one is a midfielder
match rating is still match rating
regardless of minutes
it's not even a close comparison
echo ore
you were literally using sofascore lol
dark flare
i was using it for stats only
echo ore
match rating is a stat?
dark flare
That varies
The amount of goals for each do not
And bellingham does not play as a midfielder, he's a full attacker
dark flare
you think he pairs up with kross, modric or valverde?
he's next to vini and rodrygo bro
dark flare
Theres something wrong with your eyes lol
dark flare
Well valverde's is similar to bellingham's so I guess he is a midfielder
echo ore
youre saying these are the same?
dark flare
But they are still close to each other
echo ore
youre just lying
dark flare
About what
echo ore
trying to say bellingham isnt a midfielder
dark flare
I just admitted he is
echo ore
Well valverde's is similar to bellingham's so I guess he is a midfielder
also valverde is listed as a midfielder
main panther
Honestly he can be good in any position lmao if he wanted to
dark flare
Tbh stats wise they are close
The semifinal and final and copa america will decide the ballon dor winner
echo ore
Honestly he can be good in any position lmao if he wanted to
the point was comparing a clear mid stats to a clear winger/forward
dark flare
england aint winning the euros tbh
Nothing stops vini from hattricking barcelona again at sunday
Other than that the title is already decided
so he might not feel as motivated who knows
but he still has the chance to top bellingham's stats at both competitions (cl and la liga) with way less minutes which should account for bellingham being a midfielder
visual steeple
American football or football ( or soccer)
main panther
but he still has the chance to top bellingham's stats at both competitions (cl a...
Bellingham is just him. Vini is under his shadow now. Just like neymar was under messi shadow
dark flare
Bellingham is just him. Vini is under his shadow now. Just like neymar was under...
We can think bellingham will ghost in the semis and final, but we are sure vini won't
Bellingham is having his wonder season, I understand, but he has a great chance of slowing down next season, considering his recent achievements
Vini will go back to being the face of madrid eventually
And tbh he has only but been improving considering his past seasons
It seems like he will reach his prime at 25, maybe doing what mbappé currently does, once he works out his finishing
No doubt that he is the best winger after mbappe in the world though
main panther
We can think bellingham will ghost in the semis and final, but we are sure vini ...
No one thinks that Bellingham will ghost💀 he literally played the full 120mins
main panther
Vini will go back to being the face of madrid eventually
Not with mhappe coming to the club💀
Vini would be my 3rd option behind Bellingham and mhappe tbh💀
echo ore
not to mention bellingham is 3 years younger than vini
hollow yew
yall how we feeling about caitlyn klark
rancid umbra
Bellingham's having his wonder season
Like the couple he's had at dortmund
There's a reason they gave him Zidane's shirt
Also not a clue why england winning the euros has come up
We've got Southgate, he'd struggle to win a game of scrabble against a rock
novel creek
euros are for france this year imo
prime ice
No probably germany
prime ice
Bellingham's having his wonder season
Like the couple he's had at dortmund
The...
The only thing englands gonna win is having the best squad itw whilst not being able to do anything with it 😂
rancid umbra
Southgate doing southgate things
prime ice
But I must say southgate is overhated
Sure enough his style of play probably won't lead us to a major trophy but
Since taking over he's developed some sort of consistency
Before he took over 2010 wc quarter final 2014 wc group stages 2016 euros ro16
Since taking over 2018 4th place 2020 euros runners up on penalties 2023 wc quarter final
In all fairness hes not that bad lol
Sure he does play boring style of football and is always too defensive but maybe he should try more offensive strategies
rancid umbra
Big of the bees
dark flare
Bellingham's having his wonder season
Like the couple he's had at dortmund
The...
He had never played this well at dortmund
rancid umbra
He has, he's just in a better team
dark flare
Stats im talking about
dark flare
No one thinks that Bellingham will ghost💀 he literally played the full 120mins
There is no reason to think he wouldn't
And by ghosting I mean scoring goals assisting etc which seems to be his point for until mbappe comes
Doesn't mean he won't play well as a midfielder
Vini jr will not be a second pick for until anybody else that's better than him be it bellingham or mbappe owns the ucl and brings a ucl title by themselves
Which is what vini did/does
What does it matter that you score this many goals or distribute this many assists if when you are needed the most you simply disappear
(Bellingham with city tbh)
Mbappe is also not looking good himself at psg
He is being trashed on by araujo which if you look inside vini's pocket there he is
No doubt he's better than vini though
echo ore
(Bellingham with city tbh)
Bellingham was more of the reason of the Madrid goal than vini 
He's the one who took the clearance down and played vini in
@rancid umbra Up the bees
dark flare
He's the one who took the clearance down and played vini in
valverde is the one who passed to vini, and it was vini who demanded it was passed to him and went for a good position accordingly
It was also vini that didn't let the defender stop him, and also him that passed the ball to rodrygo's foot perfectly, even though there was a defender right in front of rodrygo
Bellingham was 100% important, yes, but vini had three jobs that demanded perfection and he did them with ease
echo ore
But literally bellingham started the entire thing and it was by far the most difficult
Love how you give credit for "demanding to be passed to"
Might pull a muscle reaching like that
dark flare
He literally made to move to be passed to lol
And bellingham DID start everything but every step of the way is important otherwise there is no goal
echo ore
Forwards when they run forward
echo ore
You're trying so hard to defend him ghosting...by the way they had the same game rating
So if bellingham disappeared so did vini
echo ore
He absolutely did if you're saying bellingham did
dark flare
take out vini real is eliminated
Take out bellingham and there would still be multiple chances that madrid could also score
echo ore
Delusional again
Because that's not how the game works at all
And also...they did take out vini when it mattered the most after he was pocketed by kyle walker
dark flare
Vini was playing anywhere he wanted lol he can't be pocketed by anybody
echo ore
He was literally pocketed by kyle walker which is why he switched sides...then when he was ran down he pretended to be injured and got subbed
dark flare
Pretended to be injured is crazy
dark flare
He was literally pocketed by kyle walker which is why he switched sides...then w...
He was constantly playing in the left, middle, and right
who was responsible for the left in that game was rodrygo
vini was just there to help him
Same thing as the previous leg
echo ore
No in the previous game he was on the left because Kyle walker was out lol
Don't even watch the games do you
echo ore
Or just watch the game with your eyes lol
dark flare
Which I did 🤣
echo ore
Really because who do you think this is in which game
dark flare
Very spread apart buddy
echo ore
echo ore
Eyes aren't working today
dark flare
Nah you're just seeing what you want to see
echo ore
The map literally shows the left wing lol
dark flare
If he was playing as a left wing he would be concentrated there with red colors and all
echo ore
It's literally the darkest color in the left wing
dark flare
You want to tell me rodrygo was playing as a midfielder? 💀
echo ore
You're just lying again
dark flare
It's literally the darkest color in the left wing
He shows to have slightly played more in the left, but that isn't a heatmap of a left wing
echo ore
It literally is
dark flare
Show rodrygo's
echo ore
Not even becoming a coherent person to argue with anymore at this point
Just blatantly lying about what you see
Or trying to change definitions
Half expecting to hear something like "well give the credit to vini to knowing he can't outrun kyle walker so he was smart to stay away"
rancid umbra
Up the bees 2, electric boogaloo
echo ore
Beegaloo?
echo ore
Need Luton in the mud
rancid umbra
Don't we all, I wamt forest to survive too
dark flare
Why do you need rodrygos at all lol
To show it was rodrygo the one concentrated on the left
While vini was playing around the field, while helping rodrygo
dark flare
Yeah ok
echo ore
Bellingham clear anyways
rancid umbra
Am I remembering correctly Neos that you're from Brazil?
rancid umbra
Do you think you may be biased a tad
dark flare
no
echo ore
Didn't even know vini was in the game leg 2
dark flare
yeah fr where did the goal come from 🤯
rancid umbra
I said this and was immediately corrected
rancid umbra
yeah fr where did the goal come from 🤯
A rebound 
echo ore
Bellingham
dark flare
A rebound <a:nodding:880516410076438589>
Yeah cuz rodrygo wanted to pass the ball to ederson
echo ore
Bellingham bringing a full cleared ball over his shoulder down for no reason
dark flare
Lucky him it rebounded
main panther
He's telling me vini ghosted in the second leg
Walker was on his ahh
dark flare
Bellingham bringing a full cleared ball over his shoulder down for no reason
From there onwards who did the rest of the job? 🤣
rancid umbra
Bellingham bringing a full cleared ball over his shoulder down for no reason
Nah that was Vini who then passed to himself
echo ore
Walker was on his ahh
Like I think he blocked out the moment where walker literally runs vini down...bodies him to the ground shielding the ball...and the immediately after vini asked to be subbed holding his legs
dark flare
bellingham didnt pass to vini 💀
rancid umbra
I didn't say he did! I said vini passed to vini
dark flare
Yall downplay every effort from vini in that play which was 90%
echo ore
Like I think he blocked out the moment where walker literally runs vini down...b...
Got ego hurt so bad he had to come off
dark flare
OR he was really injured
You think he would like to leave a game so important when he's an admitted madridista?
smh
rancid umbra
You overhype everything from Vini
dark flare
Overhype? Vini is literally him my guy
main panther
You think he would like to leave a game so important when he's an admitted madri...
It wasn’t important enough if they were just defending the whole game..
rancid umbra
Realistically it was Bellingham that started the move and Valverde who played the ball to give vini no option but to square it
echo ore
Vini took like one touch of that play..."90% of the goal was him"
dark flare
He didnt let the defender take it out of him and didnt let the defender in front of rodrygo clear the ball
echo ore
echo ore
It bounced to his shin and kyle walker missed it
rancid umbra
Brother you are overhyping him so much
dark flare
Or he's just him?
echo ore
Not even him on his own team lol
dark flare
idk why im arguing with people who think even trying to argue vini vs foden makes sense
rancid umbra
It does make sense
dark flare
yall are the ones who downplay vini
echo ore
You're right. Foden clear
rancid umbra
Real
dark flare
yeah fr it does make sense, because foden is eliminated and vini was the one who ensured real score at least thrice in both legs
warra useless foden goal
echo ore
Idk didn't see vini take a pen
rancid umbra
Vini's stats last season don't count then since real didn't win the ucl or la liga
echo ore
Fair
rancid umbra
Since they were useless because they got eliminated/ didn't win
dark flare
Different to foden he actually played when he was in a final 🤣
And foden is playing in an easier league
rancid umbra
I mean Foden has twice as many trophies as vini
dark flare
It's easy when you're carried
echo ore
Foden played 6mins against real madrid last season in the ucl and assisted
rancid umbra
Like vinin is, you're right
dark flare
Yeah fr vini so carried he was the one who made real the champion
echo ore
When
dark flare
vini so carried he owns the ucl
rancid umbra
He scored a tap in during the final and that's classed as carrying
dark flare
It was a valverde terrible shot which vini took advantage of
rancid umbra
It was literally a cross
dark flare
You need to see it again
echo ore
He scored a tap in during the final and that's classed as carrying
7.0 rating that game...that's all I see him drop
Vini carry
rancid umbra
You need to see it again
Valverde isn't shooting on his right from there
dark flare
Yeah I guess I remember it incorrectly
rancid umbra
Trent completely losing his man too
dark flare
But it was vini who scored 💀
rancid umbra
VVD leaning? Not sure what the man's doing there
echo ore
So are you saying the better team always wins?
dark flare
I am saying they are incompetent
and btw I never said vini carried madrid but that he wasn't carried
And if anything that real is on a debt with vini
echo ore
rancid umbra
vini so carried he owns the ucl
You beg to differ on saying whether he carried or not
echo ore
Mate after mbappe arrives vini will be transferring to athletico in 2 seasons
dark flare
You can't say he is carried when he is literally the best player if you consider the last three competitions lol
rancid umbra
Vini under Simeone would be fun to watch
dark flare
Mate after mbappe arrives vini will be transferring to athletico in 2 seasons
Let us see lmfao
echo ore
I mean one of them can get passed kyle walker and the other can't
dark flare
yall can underrate vini all you want and he's gonna continue being the one who brings the titles
dark flare
I mean one of them can get passed kyle walker and the other can't
Mbappe cant even go past araujo imagine walker lol
echo ore
Above average Brazilian playing on the best team in his league/possibly world moment
dark flare
He's not just an above average*
echo ore
He's literally ranked 5th on madrid in terms of la liga rating so that's accurate
dark flare
my guy
I really have nothing else to say
yall are hateful people tbh
downplaying somebodys achievements like that
and comparing them to someone who stat padds and decides nothing
echo ore
Up playing them is sad tbh
echo ore
Sounds like downplaying to me
rancid umbra
Tbf, I'd say Vini is the 15th / 14th best player in the world
dark flare
HOLY SH
echo ore
This year maybe 10th
dark flare
yeah im gone
rancid umbra
Bellingham #1 atm, KDB #2, 3-14 is the entire Everton starting XI (naturally), then vini
echo ore
Fair
rancid umbra
Heck I think my keyboard's about to die
dark flare
please do so you don't get to type these disgusting comments ever again
14th-15th
yeah sure bro
rancid umbra
You really didn't read what I said, did you
echo ore
Jude, kdb, rodri, foden, kane, haaland, mbappe, and then maybe vini
rancid umbra
Honestly on current performance, I'd say Haaland much lower
dark flare
foden above him again 🤣🤣🤣
worn drift
Who is watching the fa cup later Man city vs Chelsea an who will win
dark flare
what has foden ever decided in his life buddy
rancid umbra
You also forgot the entirety of the Everton starting XI in that list Dals
echo ore
Ashley Young and Seamus Coleman clear
rancid umbra
what has foden ever decided in his life buddy
Decided to have more trophies so far in his career than vini
dark flare
Carried
rancid umbra
Baines on Toast, an all time classic team name
dark flare
vini hattricked barcelona to decide a title
vini decided the ucl
what has foden decided?
echo ore
No pen or goals doesn't decide anything
And as if vini wasn't hard carried by benzema for years
Literally 2 other ballon winners on Madrid
Vini in the shadows
rancid umbra
I hate the rhetoric that X player decided a title by scoring Y goals in Z game
dark flare
vini gave benzema his ballon dor buddy
echo ore
dark flare
where was benzema in the final
rancid umbra
Like a season isn't 38 games long (34 if you're in a potato league)
echo ore
Talk about a cope
dark flare
where was benzema
rancid umbra
Scoring for fun
dark flare
In the final? Didnt see it
rancid umbra
That and on stage collecting his Ballon D'Or
dark flare
both rodrygo AND vini
rancid umbra
nah they weren't on stage
dark flare
they gave benzema his ballon dor
rancid umbra
No I'm fairly sure they weren't presenting it
echo ore
Yea benzema hat tricks against psg and Chelsea
dark flare
no way you just said that 😭
rancid umbra
So 2 isn't less than 3?
echo ore
Benzema 15 goals in 12 UCL
39 G/a in 32 for la liga...
Vini wasn't even close lol
dark flare
benzema wasnt even close in the final either was he
rancid umbra
You're right, because the only game that matters is the final
echo ore
But by your logic they would've never gotten to the final
dark flare
yeah, because other than that all effort is a waste
echo ore
?
rancid umbra
That's possibly the worst take I've ever seen
And I've seen someone say that pineapple belongs on pizza
dark flare
Would benzema win the ballon dor without the cl?
echo ore
Up the bees 3
rancid umbra
rancid umbra
Didn't Courtois get motm in that final
echo ore
Wanna know benzema? 7.4
echo ore
Oh so goals only means better rating now
rancid umbra
So I mean, Courtois won the game for Real by being motm
So by your logic, Courtois deserved the Ballon D'Or
echo ore
Up the bees 4
rancid umbra
I'm two minutes behind
echo ore
Send this club in the mud
rancid umbra
Had to uh, find a way to watch it as it's not shown on UK tv
echo ore
For like...$25/m I can watch all PL, la Liga, serie a, and bundesliga
echo ore
You can watch every PL game can't you?
Pretty much yea
rancid umbra
For just the PL I think we end up paying like £40/m, if not more
Paramount getting TNT in the UK is helpful because that's £20/m, Sky sports for the other PL games is another 20/m
and that's PL except for ones they don't pick up and the 3pm saturday games, and european football
echo ore
Probably closer to $30. But yea espn+ gets la liga and bundesliga ($10/m). Paramount+ gets champions league, europa, and serie a ($6).
Peacock premium for the prem ($6).
rancid umbra
Used to be Masters football too but they binned that
Might have to 'move' to the US
rancid umbra
It'd be cheaper for me to get a VPN tbf
echo ore
Good vpn, espn+ paramount+ and peacock will get you alot of games
rancid umbra
Imagine being 4-0 down at home in the 67th minute and being Ole'd
echo ore
Tough
echo ore
So yea that game is on peacock. The bees on "cable"
rancid umbra
I'm guessing though that they require an American address and bank stuff
echo ore
Only for the cable. Peacock is a streaming subscription
rancid umbra
Isn't Paramount also streaming
rancid umbra
Tbf I've got a Monzo card, so might be able to get around it that way
echo ore
Espn+ is also
The "cable" ones are hard to get around
So those can be streamed but you need an active cable contract to login into
Thats def address based
rancid umbra
Tbf when I eventually move the parents have been gracious enough to say I can keep using their sky sports / tnt subs
Probably more to do with the fact that my dad wants them and they'd feel better that it's not just for one person
Wonder if my job has any US postings
dark flare
Foden hasn't even surpassed pogba in assists in the ucl but I'm supposed to think foden clears vini
Vini has more/equal g/a than foden in the ucl for all the times each played in it but I'm supposed to think foden clears Vini
Vini tops g/a in last 3 cl but I'm supposed to think foden clears vini
Vini hattricks teams like barcelona while foden hattricks teams like villa but I'm supposed to think Foden clears Vini
Vini decides titles for real while Foden decides nothing for city but I'm supposed to think Foden clears Vini
Foden plays in a league whose only team in the three top competitions is villa and in the conference league but I'm supposed to think he clears Vini
When Foden and Vini are in the same pitch Foden scores a useless goal for the end of the tie while Vini assists twice and technically thrice but I'm supposed to think Foden clears Vini
On, and on, and on...
echo ore
Foden rent free
rancid umbra
Brother we've moved on
dark flare
Move on with vini in your mind instead of fraud and stat padding foden