#gameplay-tips
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What is your 1s rank?
i wanna 1v1 a diamond just to see the skill gap lol if ur in us
im in gold 3 (been up to p2)
Guys I need help bad I beat diamonds and plats have proof of that also but like I’m plat 1 in duos I Carry all my teammates but I’m hardstuck gold 2 d1
Like the gold matches I have feels like there diamond it doesn’t make sense
I outskill them I can speed flip air dropped kuxir pinch ceiling reset have terrific game sense and ground mechanics for a plat but cannot get out of a gold
Can anybody please give me tips
I’m literally in gold one now
sometimes, those mechs creates an overly pressure againts you than helping. Try slowing it down and focus on predicting ur opponents moves instead of preflipping and overcomitting your shots
In D2 1s, i see alota wall dashes and speedflips around as i just boost lightly to important touches, just to see how much they overreact to my shots
Oh okay that kind of to be honest but like I can predict there shots like everything they do i can predict but it’s just the lucky goals the get most of the time
You're not losing games if you're "predicting everything they do and only scoring some lucky goals" 🙂 Reality check a bit man
not all shots are your fault, but what can be your fault is letting them get to that position in the first place, its not about saving all their shots and being RW9 (best defender in RLCS) but rather just not allowing them to get possesion and have time to shoot.
Wait your 1 rank above me?
yeah, im not as good as you think xD
I just have fun mostly, but i try my best to make as little mistakes as possible
I mean i also wall dash but its just so insanely ez on kbm
You have a point
yeah but not heavily needed if your opponent is a ground player
thats just oppening ur net more
I have met like 1 ground player...
Most of my goals are just open nets
and all the air players are inconsistent, so youl be better of on the ground sometimes
I literally got a opponent that was mad at me for scoring a open net and said in a sarcastic tone that I am so good to be scoring open nets
Thanks!
Can you shoot the ball into the net?
how to get to gc3 in 1s
What are you in 1s?
gc2 div 3 my peak
How do you get gc2 in 1s
keep possession, have good defense, patience when they chal in air and insta chal when u are on their side (if you can) idk
flicks are op tho
I train flicks, dribbles and catches every time I play
wanna 1v1 later
Yeah
what region
Powerful with accuracy?
na
Yeah
west central or east
west
Then do that
me too lol we can play tmr if u dont end up hopping on
d3 havent queued a single game lol
oh lol im currently gc1
alr yeah we can play whenenever
ok
Anyone tryna coach im champ 1 in 2s on ps5
Send me a replay
im genuinly struggling to rank up breh someone help
ive been carrying most games and i am ranking up but as soon as i hit d3 i go back to d1 idk how it happens but ya ive literally won champ tournaments but cannot even get to champ
Tournaments doesn't mean much, there are champs with gc tournament winners
If your carrying you won't be losing most of the time
hard when my last teamate lets in 2 goals bc he wants to type bs instead
Thats not every time and I said most of the time
Sometimes you just can't win bc we are human, we can't win always
i just wanna get champo
Observation and patience is key
Guys is it worth working on my ground dribbles i am not very good at them but I find they are so boring to do i am silver 3 OCE if that helps
At your level no
I can almost air dribble i am pretty good for silver 3
Lies
Nah i can
I can do the setup but miss the ball by like a few pixels after I get it off the wall i am so close 😭😭
So you can't air dribble?
I said almost
@dire moat BANG
Not hitting the ball at all isn't almost
Pixels away EVRY single time
Bro our tm8s were playing for the other team half the time lmao
Its not a air dribble if its just one touch
Dave literally looked at my shot coming in from halfway across the field and absolutely dimed it back the way it went lmao
That was gold
That was peak
Literally
I would like a coach i need to work on gamesense and positioning and see the mistakes i make.
But u just stay under the ball no? (I know thats not 100% accurate but it’s the rough idea I think)
Rank?
C1 atm but should be high c2 normally
Why not high c2 rn?
I dropped from a few liars they were lying about their rank and i dropped some
So your not solo queueing?
bro screw my teamates
Sometimes
Anyone wanna give me some gameplay tips from freeplay?
Well yea, thats the literal definition of a air dribble
What do you mean?
my teamates just sitting in net like whyyy\
Private match and I get some tips from gameplay
Watch the replay
HE MISSES AN OPEN NET THEN OWN GOALS
A ssl can miss a open net
A pro can own goal
hi
ya but in the span of 2 seconds?
What rank are you
No idea
how do u not know ur rank?
not too sure about 5 meters away from the goal
Haven't played in 2 months
what have u been doing?
my teamates are hot garbage
Studying
dont blame ur tm8s
tell them to hit open nets and not own goal then
u should make up for their badness
The ssl i saw missing the open net misst it when it was 1 centimeter away from the goal
dont solo queue?
make up for ur tm8s badness
Don't take that the wrong way though
ima go play something cya
If your teammate has shot the ball to the opponents or misst the ball when the opponents are near, its not going to help much if you just challenge immediately
But would anyone be able to coach me?
hard not to
A ssl probably not but it can happen
exactly
Adapt
Thats a total of 11 ranks above you if you count d1 as one
dont act like you dont blame teamates
Can't say right now bc I haven't played but before I blamed everyone but mostly myself
Though while I blamed like 80 to 20 your blaming 10 to 90 so there is a difference
A person with champ skill level wouldn't be diamond
well ill be champ soon
If the season has been going on for some time
everyone thats higher rank says i deserve higher rnak
I said what you needed, you just didn't listen
I think c1
Ok
Though i stopped playing before this season so its probably lower rn
lfg a c3 to gc3 coach
Observations and patience is key and also when you feel like your teammate is garbage watch the replay
If you deserved a higher rank, you’d be a higher rank. Forget what people say, because it doesn’t magically change your rank does it?
What rank are you?
after playing with a way too toxic ball chasing teammate for a couple days for a few hours that I met here, I've now lost my aggressive playstyle that led me to winning games with my friends. I play way too passive now and they end up having to do everything because I get nervous and hesitate every move I make, I throw too much now. I have no idea what to do. I'm D1.
Im c2 but now c1
Add me, I'm gc1 I could probably give you some advice, you avaliable rn?
Not rn
Add me and lmk when you're avaliable
I sent you on discord
WHAT THE ACTUAL IS MY TEAMATES
850 points 1 goal ot game and this guy drives it into our own net
@gritty sonnet check gameplay highlights
tell me if this is normal
observations and patience my ass when im playing 1v3 every other game
Doesn't really tell me much tbh, i gotta see the whole game to actually say why he did it
cause he ass
still having to deal with this all the time
Your not 1v3 that often I know that for a fact
and its my fault im stuck
in ot i was tf
You are stuck bc of yourself
yes! my teamates own goaling ot is my fault
Firstly thats one game, secondly the mistake/on purpose itself is not your fault but how it lead to a goal/why he did it, CAN be your fault
well ill rank up eventually fs im better than my teamates so its a matter of times
Seba could have certainly got a better clear in that clip, all I seen was two weak touches from him, one of which was passed to his teammate that wasn’t ready for a pass and was facing their own goal - pressure got the best of him.
spamming what a save after ?
Disable the chat if it bothers you.
also
you can clearly see
the 2nd clear opponent car
drivng which way not towards the ball neither challenging
What about it?
Your teammate wasn’t in position to receive a pass, you can take the ball with you to get boost.
But you can’t help his actions, you can only help your own. In which case, would have been to simply take the ball with you to retrieve boost, that way you’re maintaining possession while your teammate can also be positioned properly for a pass, or you can do something with the play depending what happens from the opponents.
There’s blame on both parties here.
8/10 ragebait
This is why you can't be helped
For real, he’s in complete denial.
i will rank up its not a question like
like what? speak properly lol
Then what’s your purpose coming to this channel? Because you’re not ranking up just sitting here moping about teammates.
his pfp is a self portrait
And you’ll probably rank up to your peak and then cry about teammates again when you’re no longer ranking up.
I mean you won't rank up further than that and then you will complain about teammates again
Blaming teammates a lot is a never ending cycle of disappointments
Well I'll see you in champ then
8/10 delusion
You won't
Put money on it
Sure I can bet you everything i own
Well i bet you that we won't see each other in champ
I don't do that
I just been looking at your messages too, you are using the fact you won champion tournaments as a way to boost your ego - you know they’re easier to win right? You gain more MMR per tournament match you play than you would a standard match. Even then, I see you instantly lost your last two tournaments on the first round, teammates again? Those pests.
I said in the beginning that champs have gc tournaments winners so tournament winners doesn't mean much
LMFAO
Is that the 3s tournament
YOOOO NAH
I almost got banned LMAO
Cause this guy name is soup can't hang
And I or yourself afterwards and server thinks I'm tryna say something😭😭
Please don’t drive chal with no momentum for a demo right in front of your net
Where is the demo? I'm confused
You did a drive challenge right in front of your net
Ya but no demo
Yeah that’s why it’s bad
But idk where the demo is coming from
If you go supersonic through a drive chal you can get a demo that’s what makes it powerful + a small chance of winning the ball
Well I kinda had to go for the ball
But you only really want to do them when your teammates behind you and you can afford for the ball to go high or behind you
If you did a jump challenge it would have been a lot better
The teammate was missing all game so instead of flipping and having s chance of going out of play I wanted to stay close and try to make it pop high
Still doesn't explain why my teammate own goals but sure
At the same time my teammate bumped the guy into the back so I had less time to react
Ball*
Seba, why do you own goal? And don’t give some random crap that you have never own goaled, because that would really show your denial more bolder than it is.
Its a little tougher because driving in the direction of the ball is easy
Buddy no one talking to you
You’re in a public channel, therefore everyone can contribute to this conversation.
I mean ya fair but I think if no bump happened I would've had a better clear since you see the guy awkward
So I ask again, why do you own goal?
Plus u have easier recovery eith wave dash after
That aint tuff
🥀🥀
Just do me a favour and look at the clip and imagine right at the 4 second mark if you just tapped X
That was the mistake in the clip from you
Ya I said fair
Obviously it’s an own goal
You got lucky if you were playing against a better player it would have just been in your net
You didn’t even touch the ball he just missed and hit the post
I do that most of the times but like I said didn't have much time to react and such
Yeah maybe just something you need to work on
Playing 1v1 helps with stuff like that
Nah that was intentional own goal after the game I added him and he just said slurs so ya
Hit plat 3 div 3 last season i think havnt donemy placements
What 2s r u?
How are they that close lolol you must actually be good at 1s
I'm a slower player
Usually it’s like a c1 is d1 in 1s
So I just wait on mistakes
I'm decently mechanical like
And I practice a lot of powerful accurate shots
Fair enough
So that's what wins mainly for me or even getting that 1 touch in the air for a ground to air dribble hitting it high waiting to hit crossbar and hitting it into the goal
Barely anyone saves that
@kind rapids check gameplay highlight
I hit that earlier with the jump only thing you were talking about
Yeah nice
Just try go for it more often until it’s not something you need to think about when you 50 obvs not 100% of the time but a decent amount of it
honestly solo q is a gamble but anyone truly deserving to be champ should be able to get more than a 50% win rate in diamond even if some games are needing to be carried. it may take a while and yes teammates can throw but at diamond it's 100% not an every-match thing and opponents will throw just as much. TLDR: dont focus on tm8s, focus on what you can do to guarantee a win with or w/o a teammate (p.s. i dont mean that as an excuse to ballchase)
or find a reliable duo
I mainly sit back wait for my teammate to chase and only go for a shot or clear tbf
I've played in champs lobbies ik what it's like and ya it is a difference but people throw for no reason just tilts meb for next couple games
I'd want someone consistent but a lot of people are not so it's hard
being passive isnt the most effective way to control the match tbh. yes be wary of mess ups from your teammate but also if you're confident that you're faster/smarter/more mechanical then abuse it, your goal should be to carry each match not just win. consistent rotations should put you in decent positions 90% of the time and knowing when to control, challenge, or leave it for your tm8 is critical
ik i have the same issue, but its not impossible to find
dont let it get to you at the end of the day its a number in a video game, one match doesn't decide how the rest will go. but also if you get tilted then know to take breaks and recenter, mentality is really important
id offer to duo but i haven't played in like half a year i only started up again about a week ago
What is a carry for you?
Being patient is really good in lower ranks
im not saying take every slightly open ball and rush up the wall, but making sure your own plays are consistent, maintaining control whenever there's an opportunity (including thought out bangs and clears), maintaining solid positioning, never letting the opponent have an easy shot if possible, and being the teammate you wish you had. Being patient is part of being a carry as its reliant on the fact that you are picking up your tm8's slack (if needed). yes, patience is good in lower ranks, it's good in every rank. but as with everything theres always a limit before it becomes detrimental. i'm trying to say not to stay back too much and only contribute when there's easy pickings, you have to be able to create those oppurtunities yourself as well
It depends on if you want to rank up or improve
if u want to rank up jus be the best in the lobby

ranking up comes with improvment, improvement comes with practice and mentality. the best someone can help another players improvement is general advice and guidance. more time on the ball also equals practice so 1s and taking control of matches is good for general improvement but i'd recommend casual first if u aren't used to staying on the ball as much as you can (without ballchasing ofc again i just mean setting the matches pace) so you arent throwing in ranked
I’ve retyped my reply like 6 times I give up
I agree
I think what some players get wrong is that they try and force it, play ranked get off and play the next day and expect better results that’s asking to be hardstuck
yeah fs, warm up and solo practice goes a long way. watching and learning from pros too
Even trying to be the gamesense over mechanics player is a mistake in the long term in my eyes
yeah cause at a certain point theres a mech requirement to keep up. especially in consistency and fundementals. and having mechs opens up another layer of gamesense
Yeah 
I mean mechs have a lot more carry potential than gamesense even though they both require each other to an extent
The plats and diamonds who can flip reset and are still stuck don’t have bad game sense necessarily
They just can’t actually flip reset
And then they also can’t put on an air roll shot lolol
That's the dumbest statement I've heard, mechanics NEED gamesense to be effective while gamesense does not need mechanics to be effective making gamesense objectively better than mechanics in most cases. If you do a reset without even taking into consideration where the opponents are or when they'll challenge wont get you above champ, while dojng mechanics you need to be able to quickly observe the opponents' positions and do the mechanics accordingly.
I quite literally said that
.
You said mechs have a lot more potential LOL
Yes I would rather have better mechs than gamesense than better gamesense and worse mechs
In neither situation am I bad at the other
That is where you are wrong
Having better gamesense will get you much further than having better mechs
Look at freestylers for example, they are literally all champ and MAYBE GC
that is true
half the time, I miss saves because I backflip when I should slow down
A freestyler in champ has bad gamesense not slightly worse
Bro my rank is silver 3 but im plat level or higher i think in 2s my tm8s just take the ball from me when im on a dribble or they booststarving me and there scoring owngoals how do i rank up bro what like
Players without using any advanced mechanics have made it to SSL, while freestylers who only use mechs haven't made it there proving that gamesense is better
tru
I’m talking about the lower ranked, and advanced mechanics yes but they would need very good fundamentals to reach ssl with purely game sense
But up until champ you don’t even see opponents going on the backboard so any type of mechanic that goes top shelf just goes in every time
Fundamentals are not considered mechanics, shot accuracy and aerial accuracy aren't what rocket league players call "mechanics"
Yes it is, if you do a shooting pack are you not training your mechs?
Your not exactly working on game sense are you
I don't care what happens up until champ, what is important is what happens AFTER champ
Fundamentals and mechs are different
It's like saying shooting on an FPS game is a mechanic
find a good player (eg. a friend at gold). if you can voicechat, that's even better, because you can communicate more, like: Go take boost, I'll take the ball or, on your left. you can do that without opponents knowing your next move.
It absolutely is
In the same way that movement would be
Yeah well i cant find
I am silver 2, but I found playing with my worse brother is slightly better than bad tm8s
It literally isn't
Ask ANYONE what they consider mechanics, nobody is gonna mention fundamentals
that is so true. don't ypu dare say pressing drive is a mechnic
Fundamental mechanics
Any action in-game is a mechanic, whether it be a flip reset or simply accelerating your car. A mechanic doesn’t have to be flashy.
Anyone c3 or higher mind watching me play and giving me tips?
If you have 100% perfect recoveries you have good mechs
Absolutely wrong
It is technically a mechanic
a fundamental is something simple, like basics. mechanics are combining those basics to make somthing better
There’s a reason you say advanced mechanics
If its advanced there needs to be a stage before
@gritty sonnet @kind rapids @zenith torrent ,read this
Not what most say are but it is a mechanic
You pressing your kb is a mechanic
A fundamental… mechanic
Mechanic in most games is considered something that is techy, not simple. To put it like that, a mechanic is a specific set of actions that results in a specific thing, shooting or driving doesn't require specific button presses thus it isn't a mechanic
an advanced mechanic is an advanced version of a mechanic, that is a combination of fundamentals
Would you call air roll a mechanic?
Air roll by itself? No
It is technically a mechanic, whatever you make the word mechanic doesn't exclude the actual meaning
Jumping and pressing air roll is not a mechanic
Google “define game mechanic”
A game mechanic is a rule or system that defines what players can do in a game and the outcomes of those actions. Mechanics govern how players interact with the game's environment and elements, modifying the "game state" (e.g., a player's health, position, or inventory). Examples include the L-shaped move of a knight in chess or crafting in Minecraft.
^
Ask Google how to air dribble and ull see how wrong google is😂😂
It is
Wait I might have screens
You can make a word more complex what it is but in definition its still the exact same thing
Layers doesn't change the core definition
Until you reference otherwise how driving isn’t a game mechanic, this discussion isn’t worth continuing.
You seen my reference for what a game mechanic is, why should Rocket League be excluded from this?
In gaming for years it's been the same, a mechanic is something techy and not a simple action
No it’s not
It really does not matter
Because every game is excluded for this
Reference please.
The definition is right there
Literally search for mechanics in any game, go to YouTube and search any game's mechanics and you'll not see anyone saying "driving is a mechanic" or "shooting is a mechanic"
Dude, just becomes it has come to this doesn't mean its something else
Fundamental mechanics
That Cosmo guy CLEARLY knew what mechanics mean in gaming rn, he is just trying to go by definition because he is tryna prove himself right
Look at gameplay highlights
Now in Cosmo's message he didn't say the word "fundamental" did he?
I take fundamentals as mechanics too whats the problem?
Don't see fundamental anywhere here
Exactly that’s the mechanics of the game
Walking
Is a mech
Don’t need fundamental
So if I upload a YouTube video right now stating accelerating is a game mechanic, that’s sufficient enough to counter your point here.
Ok so if I can drive I'm a GOD at mechanics then
No but you do have the ability to perform a mechanic
Because you are performing a mechanic
I mean if you say driving as a mechanic then game sense is nothing without mechancs
By your definition, driving is a mechanic so if I can drive I have good mechs
Who said “good”?
He
Cosmo
"good mechs"
I mean if you have perfect ground car control then yes that’s a mechanic that your good at
Oh I didn’t see that, while I agree driving is a game mechanic, I disagree that it makes you “good” at mechanics.
If you can drive, you can dribble
I can prove you wrong right now, what's ur rank?
Extremely wrong
I didn’t say I had good mechanics or gamesense lol
I could pull a clip of apparentlyjack saying mechanics are more important then you can go 1v1 him
"if you can aerial you can psycho pinch musty double"
Zen hasn't said anything like this and he can easily beat apparently jack so that's a stupid statement
If your aerials are good enough then yes
Apparently jack has tens of thousands of hours so saying "1v1 him" is not a valid argument here
If you have perfect aerial control then any mechanic that’s possible in the air you can do
There's a difference between an aerial and an air mechanic, even if someone is perfect at aerials he won't be able to perform a specific mechanic first try
You can do but it takes hours to learn
How about this, if you want to improve at the game you should put more hours into mechanics than gamesense
I mean does most people want to become better than pros?
No? But does that mean that everything a pro says is valid? Hell no. They are pros because they have talent, doesn't mean they are know-it-alls
Guys I need a good player to talk to anyone here like really good at rl dw I don't need a free carry just wondering
Just specify and your golden
Right back at you
Not triple flip resets exclusively, you need to have good recoveries, ground and aerial car control, but also the ability to do something like a flip reset will also help
You can be taught gamesense, you need to grind out mechanics if you want to improve put more time into mechanics to save yourself hassle in the future
Again, depends
But tbh this is a bit of person to person
If you go for flip resets at gold that's dumb
It’s dumb to be a gold who knows how to flip reset because they’ve skipped 12 steps
The hassle in the future will be LESS though because your aerial and ground control will be better
But if you hit a flip reset on net in gold it’s probably gonna go in
Aerial and ground control I consider a mechanic
No it's dumb because it'll take them 300 hours or more to learn since they don't have the required car control whereas if they started practicing resets at GC it would only take them maybe 50 hours?
You shouldn't learn a mechanic unless it's necessary for your rank
I said it’s dumb because they’ve skipped steps yes I would never recommend a gold practices flip resets
If you had spent those 300 hours on actual gameplay and gamesense you'd be diamond or champ though
Once they want to learn how they’ll need to practice anyway
It’s better to split time, but I’d say the split is more for mechanics
Because gamesense is something that can come from simply watching the game and at least attempting to see what you did wrong in a replay or something
I'll put it like this, mechanics and gamesense is a ratio, you should only learn mechanics when the hours put into that mechanic would be better spent compared to gamesense. (Talking about advanced mechanics just to make clear) If you are gold even if you CAN learn resets, if they take you 300 hours it's a loss because 300 hours on gamesense would be better spent while if you are in GC 50 hours of gamesense would help way less
Practicing mechanics more than you play games is not recommended for anyone
Its just logic
Looking for a champion 1/2 eu mic
In the short term yes but in the long term you’ll thank yourself
Mechanics only become effective past a certain rank, there are recommended mechanics for each rank for maximum efficiency. Bronze and silver are wavedashes and half flips, golds and plats are dribbles, flicks, fast aerials and power shots, diamonds and champs are air dribbles and ceiling shots GCs and SSL are flip resets and other advanced ones
In the short term mechanics are better, gamesense helps long term LOL
In the short term you can’t get that far with mechanics
Learning a mechanic as late as possible is the most beneficial thing ever since that mechanic will take you WAY less hours to learn
If you practice mechanics today and hope to wake up with a difference your cooked
Same thing goes for gamesense though doesn't it?
1 day of gamesense won't make a difference
Of focused practice yeah? If your losing games cause you keep committing in corners then just.. stop doing it you’ve improved in 30 minutes
But you can’t just click with muscle memory and consistency
You can improve game sense in a very short time
I thought of a way to explain, let me tell you the disadvantage you put yourself into by learning mechanics early, let's say you learn flip resets at plat or diamond, it'll take you maybe 200 hours to learn and let's say you reach the same playtime as a pro of let's say 4000 hours, if the pro had practiced the mechanic while he was pro and not plat, if would only take him 30 hours to learn meaning that of his 4000 hours, only 30 was spent on flip resets and the rest was other stuff while in your case 300 was spent on flip resets and you only spent 3700 on other stuff, so in the end he gained time by delaying learning resets as much as possible, same goes for all mechs
It takes the same amount of time, the only difference is that the pro has already put their time into rings maps so half the stuff he needs to practice he already knows doesn’t mean he skipped any steps
He put time into something else to make flip resets take less time
He’s not taking less time because of replay reviews
Your rank does absolutely nothing towards your mechanics
It doesn't, learning a mechanic does not improve your air control while improving air control does help with learning a mechanic
Your rank says how good your general car control is which directly helps with mechs
No it doesn't, a rank says the general skill level of players
Learning a mechanic is improving your air control, most of the time the reason you need to learn it is because your struggling with the air control required for example the turn so your wheels are facing you in a flip reset is air control and at some point you need to learn it
You magically getting gc doesn't mean your better at mechanics bc your gc
Which is directly connected to the player's car control, are you dumb?
The pro skips that step since he already knows how
It's not
Did you even read the message?
Learning a mechanic is memorizing a pattern of inputs, improving car control is UNDERSTANDING that pattern
Notice how I say general skill level of players, while you say your general car control
Does a pro have better car control than you? Yes, so stop talking
It is literally connected
Memorizing a pattern of inputs means you understand it you can’t memorise a pattern you don’t understand otherwise you wouldn’t know what to memorise
You can memorize patterns you don't understand, and a lot of players do that
Yes though not really a fair comparison
They simply don’t try to, if you just go in Freeplay and hit a flip reset and focus on the movements your doing chances are you can put it into words
It's not "fair" because he is higher rank, your claim is that higher ranks don't connect to better car control so it is absolutely a fair comparison
A general skill level of players doesn't mean individual players have similar general car control
Car control is a mechanic that you need to put time into learning iutside of games
Your not gonna get pro level car control from ranked
Car control is many mechanics, not 1
A general skill level of a pro is much higher than for example a gc
Many mechanics that you need to put time into practicing outside of ranked
You are not gonna get it by going into free play and doing resets for 24/7 either
Practicing basics>>>>>>practicing advanced mechs
Practice the basics until you can practice the advanced mechs
The general skills to make it to a rank doesn't mean that everything is balanced, it means that everything together is for example 20 points though you can be terrible at for example dribbles but still have 20 points
So you agree that the rank of a player directly connects to their car control
No
It connects to the general skill of a player
But you’ll learn the basic air control required to hit a flip reset while practicing it without practicing it seperatwly
Car control are all mechanics combined, if a player is better in the air and someone is completely bad doesnt mean that the person who is bad doesn't have good car control, it means he hasn't practiced that specific thing
You won't be able to understand all movements of air roll by only doing resets though
While if you practice air roll first and then resets you'll be good at both
Practicing air roll is still practicing a mechanic
In your literal example of your initial message you mentioned flip resets, not air roll
Stop switching it up, I know what you meant while typing it
You mean to tell me, I have been in Tesco, bought a meal deal, and ate the meal deal sandwich and crisps - and ya’ll are still arguing about this?
Tell that to the claims or rl players
I said they can’t actually flip reset meaning they don’t have the car control to hit it over a defender, in net, and without a perfect setup
What's your 1s rank?
Why?
Wanna 1v1
Point is even if they could perfectly hit it, it wouldn't be an efficient use of their time
It is, practicing the mechanics to get to ssl takes more time than practicing the gamesense to get to ssl
So your better off putting more time in a split into mechanics
True? But you just proved me right LOL
If practicing gamesense gets you to SSL faster it means it's more efficient
You need both ssl level gamesense and mechanics
Wrong
People have gotten SSL without good mechs
Unless you mean fundamentals, which flip resets are NOT a part of
If you have good enough fundamentals then you can hit a flip reset
What is youe 1s rank?
My knowledge here may be ignorant, but didn’t Woody get to SSL or close to SSL? And his signature move is demolitions.
****with practice
Diamond 3
He ssl in demos
I'm genuinely curious, what's ur rank? And how many hours do you have in rl?
C2 2k
I am d1 wanna play 1s?
I know he won an SSL tournament at least from demolitions.
I’m not home.
😭
How can your practice methods be more efficient than mine if I'm c2 with 450 hours and you are c2 with 2k? No offense here
A lot of my time is spent in your mindset trying to be a gamesense player and i believe it held me back
Once i started practicing my car control a lot more is when i ranked up
I went FULL into gamesense until C1 and I'm c2 now with 450 hours
I’m a gamesense player, my mechanics are awful besides ground dibbling / flicks - I’m GC1.
Exactly
That’s actually pretty impressive tbf but you must have still put time into Freeplay messing around with recoveries and rings maps
I got c2 with 80% game sense and 10% mechanics
What about the other 10%?
Mind
Wouldn’t mind come under gamesense? 
Not rage quiting basically
I wouldn't say so
Ah, mentality.
Ok who wanna 1v1 then
Yes, but way less than 50%
Yes
finally, someone gets me
What's your 1s rank?
I probably put 150 in total in shooting practice and rings as well as Freeplay
High d1-low d2
Wanna 1v1?
1v1 Nexto if you looking for a challenge.
Yeah sure in a sec
And are you still focusing on gamesense?
Just warm up for 1s session
I think spookluke cooked everyone with his advice lolol
fine. we focus on "Fundmental mechanics" and gamesense
Mostly yeah
also, very true. I like him a lot
I hate his guts
Know a person who does coaching for free
Also, I agree that you should be practicing fundamentals, that was my whole argument and that's what those 150 hours I've put into training gone into, what I completely disagree on is that mechanics like flip resets are needed, because they aren't
What do you get in this $1,500 program?
Rl
I would rather spend that money on real life
Spookluke gives bad advice most of the time
I’m considering coming back to the scene.
Okok I simply believe you should be putting more time into the right mechanics that you need than practicing gamesense
He is a pro level player
I’m not saying you shouldn’t do gamesense at all i would just say put more into your mechs/car control
So is he giving you value for that $1,500 or is he charging that because of his name?
How many hours in said program?
And a high level coach
Ask him lolol
I mean maybe, I think that still depends on rank, the higher rank you are the more time you should be focusing on mechanics
Talking about spookluke?
I would disagree I think gamesense is more important at first you really don’t need mechs
Agreed, especially on the word "at first"
I think if a gold started doing rings maps and focused car control practice like a dribble map and recoveries in Freeplay for 50 hours and then did like 10 hours of ranked while focusing on improving their gamesense they would fly through the ranked ladder
Since later on is when mechanics really shine
And then keeping that split it would slow down, but still be faster ranking up than 99% of players
Depends on what you mean by later on I’m gc 2 and can barely get resets consistently
Mechanics/gamesense ratio goes more towards mechanics the higher rank you are
@kind rapids whats your epic?
I actually believe it’s the opposite
I mean if you watch a gold play you can tell they don’t know how to move their car
Mechanics as in fundamentals
You kinda get a gut feeling of what rank someone is just by watching them move their car
Yeah obviously you need a good baseline but once you hit that baseline you don’t need to practice mechanics too much
It's been proven based on statistics that as people rank up, they end up spending more time in free play
Maybe they figure out what I’m saying 🫣
A pro for example spends about 80% of his time in free play
You wouldn't guess mine, I have seen people call me way higher than I am
While a gold only about 20%
I think that is in large part because ques take much longer and the lobbies get much more inconsistent
I don’t think golds are doing even that lol
Probably because they have to queue for 30 minutes to find a match 🤣
I made a priv name and password are both ryu
Yeah I have bad 10 minute queues in gc2 can’t imagine how bad it is at 2k
For the guy who wanted to 1v1
That's called overestimating yourself and it's bad
I am not calling myself higher ranked, they are
Astral r u eu?
Yes
Ok join my priv
Because you are a 1s player
While most people you play against are 2s mains
I am beginning to now but I was a 2s player
I didn't touch 1s until recently
Alexy we can 1v1 iyw not a grudge match lol you said your 450hrs and same rank so im curious how you play
Sure
Well can you say the code
A bit hard to join otherwise
Alr gimme a sec
he i just started playing this game anyone who can teach me some thing?
Play the game until you get to silver/gold
plat2 already
Learn half flips, wave dashes, fast aerials, power shots and basic dribbles
can you maybe show in game?
Just so you know I haven't played in a week lol
You and that last guy are supposed to be the same rank
Me?
What’s ur 1s as well
Used to be a 1s player so c1 but couple years ago, now I'm d1
For the last few years I only play 2s
I was preaching mechs and didn’t do a mechy thing the full bo3 lmao
ggs tho and gg astral
Would you be down for a game of horse?
Just wanna see the difference
I have to go to college I’m gonna be late lol
Ah alr
It starts in 10 mins and I’ve not gotten ready 🫣
I told you
C2?
Lol no he is way lower
I thought he said that
I think he is plat something in 1s
Oh damn mb
C2 eu mic
Which game mode?
2s
D3
What advanced mechs can you do other than a normal flip reset? Im still learning reset mustys lol you might have me even in that
Oh ok
I am d1 in 1s
Flip reset musty, doubles, air dribbles, ceiling shots and ceiling musty's, sidewall and i can't think of anything else rn
I’m d1 in 1s too but you kinda skelped me lol I need to play more 1s I just did my placements then left it
Okok you could not have learned that with 250 hours only on mechs surely
You have to be like gifted or something
150 and I have lol
I think it's because I only started learning mechs after I hit C1 so my basics were good
XD
450 in total he said 250 spent on mechs
150 hours on mechs, 450 total
150*
450 for champ is not bad
so it took him 18 days for champ and 150 hours to be able to basically hit 80% of the mechs that are useful in the game
we might be witnessing the reckoning of christ ngl
your cooked
someone get the horn and banners up and running
What r u?
2700h gc3
450 hours for champ is a bit of a stretch no? if solo que i would assume it would take at least 600-800 hours i thought
if he played with a duo i assume its way easier
but on the other hand he can hit the mechs of jesus himself
gl
I started playing on PC so I had it a bit easier than the average player, I'm also on 240hz
Can you do a map like air dribble gauntlet?
Consistently no, but I was looking for people to play with before going into comp
ah okay
Never tried
aye can some1 help me n my tm8 tiering up?
What about tiny rings have you done that?
I can do full field air dribble though
can you do dribble overhaul?
Yeah pretty easily
Haven't done many WS maps except aim training, dribble challenge 2 and speed rings 3
nice
Ok fair
gng wht rank r u?
C2
@kind rapids ur 1570 peak?
Nah my name is weird
what do you guys call someone whos really buns at rocket league for their rank, but somehow got there solo que
Good enough for the rank
That's impossible but I guess if It were to happen they are lucky and got matched up with bad players
mmmmm
ig i should clarify what buns means, it means they cant do advanced mechs that other ppl can do at their rank ig
Now it makes sense, then they are gamesense-carried
Which according to me is the best way to play the game
Maybe I'm wrong idk, not really tryna start an argument again lol
xd it would be funny if a person who didnt have gamesense, or mechs were at a higher rank xd
nah i agree
mechs you can learn later but gamesense u kinda need to be innately good at it ig

twin can u help me out a bit? me n my frnd be making mistakes n his ahh so rtxded he ain't willing to listen to any advice i give him n i think he scks at rotations n all (we hardstuck gold TT)
i jst need a guy to watch 1-2 replays n tell wht we doing wrong
Most golds it’s just their challenge game, jump 50s fake challs etc don’t exist
tell ur friend he need to put the fries in the BAG and listen to advice to get better
And just tell him to not be up your ass
cus this game aint gon treat u well if ur too stuck up to listen to advice
anyone who can teach me some things in game
this wt i'm telling his ahh but he jst won't listen to my yap
it's good if it comes frm sm1 else
this why i need sm1 to tell him wt he doing wrong
well can he shoot the ball on target
half of the times no
oh dear god
TT
no need for feedback, go into freeplay and practice putting the ball in the goal for 10 min first
oh no he ain't even THAT bad yo 😭
oh damn
uhhhh
im not very good at giving feedback lolz i suck as well tbh
also i cant really join vc rn cus its always saying smth about DLS connecting or sum
ye that scks
mainly js focus on putting shots on target, and positioning yourself so that ur lined up to take a shot at net when ur teamamte passes to you
i do
There's not really much rotation in gold
I wouldn't say plat can either rotate
maybe
Yeah
wouldn't jst watching the play be better to grasp the situation
In lower ranks all you need to do is let your tm8 ball chase and be there for saved and shots when needed
saves*
Just do the same in champ
alr will do
i can help out im gc2
U cant force someone to improve he isnt willing to
: (
Get new friends
Im GC2, can anybody tell me if im doing my Jakze resets right or wrong, im not quite sure..
can someone help me get better for i can carry my bad temmates
Hey guys im diamond 1 in 1s and diamond 3 in 2s but Only gold in 3s😩any diamond 2+ thats not to High in 3v3 tryna q?
anyone who plays kbm, if you are airdribbling, do you use strictly S and D for airroll left (or opposite)?
or just using airroll in general for aerial control ^
What is your s and d keys binded to?
anyone wanna 1v1? i just started so idk you prob win but normal game mode is to ez
Do you mean just started the game for first time?
like 2 days in now lol but pretty decent for 2 days
What is your rank? And what do you main?
@kind rapids thx I needed smth like that lol
wdym what do i main? i am plat 2 atm after the 10 matches in 2s
I mean what do you play the most
Do you think you deserve play 2?
2s
Plat 2 after first placements is very good
i mean ig can do a few things idk haha
I remember climbing through gold lol
I would just say play more until your feeling it not to ez
Im hardstuck goal 9/10 out of 10 times but after first placement in 3s I'm plat 1
Gold*
alrr
tyy
Yall wish me luck I'ma try to get a good first placement in 2s on my alt
Why on a alt?
@kind rapids I suck on ps4 ;-;
R u normally pc?
Nah
Used to be switch but I don't have enough space
So I'm using my dads Switch Lite rn.
Wish me luck tho
nah guys how to get a second reset i cant
nah twin i hporrid
can someone do a 1v1 and what i can do better
thats like on kbm like
That’s what the controller tutorials say
Like squishys
If u mean your on kbm then idk
ya im onkbm xd
Should have asked the pulse guy when he was here lol
?
rip
Looking for a Diamond+ to play 3s with I already have 1 player we Are both diamond 3 in 2s join if ur not higher than diamond in 3s but is higher than diamond in 2s Or 1s
I mean surely it’d be the same? Just w and d flip and hold s or s and a?
so what do i do now
And that’d be a flip cancel no
so i hold w d flip and hold s right
Yeah
and thats how u go for a double
Yeah that’s the flip you do into the ball
xd
You have to get the first one obvs lol
Tbh just watch squishes tutorial and replicate on kbm
i cant get a double im horrid gddamn
If you can figure out the cancel that’s all that really matters
Or any double tutorial works rlly
Might even be one for kbm
I CANNOT im trying to

Try holding s and a maybe? I’m not sure if the flip cancel is slightly diagonal
That would be some Friday night funkin wasd movements tho
I give up switch to roller
Ask pokepel
If its default controls then its w, s, a/d
Or replace a/d to q/e
idk if he can help me im a lost problemxDDX
He is kbm too
can you check dm maybe
Yo need a consistent team for 3s? I’m d3 div 3 if anyone interested
Whatchu need twin
Lwk just finish silksong speedrun now i need to lock in for steel soul complation
pokepel i remember playing w u when u were d2 bro ur resets were so cooked NOW ur the goat help me get a double reset XDD
i lwk dont but tbh double resets arent really my thing if we talk about anything else than stalls i can probably help out with rapids too but more advanced ones are out of my control
i werent d2 for a long time tbh and i dont think i could even get a reset back then
i mean getting is easay bngl more so scoring it
i js wanna get double reset
oh thats easy
send me a clip in dm of ur attempt and i let u know how u can imrpove
.
ok pokepel can i add u in dms cuz im on valorant rn
yea srue i ll be on my pc for maybe 45 minute
allg
and then i ll hop off till later
watch a yt tutorial
can anyone help me out with aerials
wanna try and learn together
Im champ 1 should i focus on arial play like airdrib and ceiling shots and for how long (im a ground main)
any need help? plat 1 till c2
yo still need?
yes
Any low ranks need help? dm me ( need mic ) cant play rlly myself bc drinked some alchohol but i can help some people for free
dww
Me
But i dont have mic
Make sure you've mastered the fundemental mechanics of the game
cant help if u dont have a mic
Any one need help ? lower then grand champ 1, dm me, need mic tho, ill help
Help with what? I’m D3 an have like 0 mechs
almost won the tournament;/ but one guy griefed so hard
what are u like looking for ?
Mostly ground mechs an basic air dribbles
Why does rocket league suck when you solo que like i was on a roll last week got all the way up to Champ 3 but I was MVP most of my matches but I get on this week solo que im now down to c2 div 2 what am I doing wrong?
learn bounce dribbles and being able to chain them into shots or into ground dribbles
can some one get me to champ 1 pls💔💔
any1 wanna 1v1
s is drive backwards and d is steer right, I currently have q binded to airroll left
learn to challenge when you're closer to the ball than the opponents
solo q the best
Anyone wanna duo iam silver pls Hugh rank I need advice
hm I dont think so
It isnt, solo que is cancer
Does someone wanna play? Im Diamond and would like to improve
@mellow crow
Im so lost, how do people get to the buck part of a horse dash?
My car just doesn't do the buck part
1
Lf 3 2s privs
Its a skill issie solo q is true skill check for being able to adapt
Bro i m lwk getting consistent with rapids not with scoring tho😭
Is d1 good for 1s when I'm d3-c2 in 2s
I aint home for another 30 minites or so if u ll still looking by then hit me up i ll run some unless i ll start another silksong run
Alr
Can anyone teach me im really bad
Yes that’s fine
wdym
Cap
My average solo queue tm8 would solve world hunger before scoring a goal
Yeah fr its either they are alot more skillful on pc or maybe there's just more smurfs
Any1 wanna coach me - im plat 3 rn but i js cant seem to get out of it
I would but im only D2
Skill and mental issue git gud
They cant accept the fact they cant adapt and have to rely on tm8 to be good to rank up if they do that for long time they cant adapt to diffrent playstyle and think its their tm8 fault
@mellow crow iam sorry I finished
lf 1v1 chill im d2
Why does alternating stick directions feel so unnatural?
can sm1 teach me how to airroll (right) im d3
Can some one teach me how to be good on ps5 controller for free?
Can some1 coach or play 2s to try get champ or d3
What rank are you
P3 but should be like d1 or d2
i mean im d1 rn and we could like be partners to c1
respectfully if you are plat 3 you definitely shouldnt be d2, you would be able to get yourself to d1 without relying on teammates, and at plat 3 its just best to do the push into diamond yourself and not get someone to bring you to d3 and most definitely not champ
Hold up
🤔
region?
Eu
dang it
yea...
Ok
I’m eu
I’ll dm
Lf 3 2s privs
any gc/champ 1v1 me? im trying to learn from you (currently d3 div3)
you gotta teach me man, idk how to get past d1
Sure
What’s ur epic
dm me if needed
dm me later today ill help
igh
Anyone to help me I'm eu
rank and ur goal gng would help if people know with what they are helping
can any1 coach me, im plat 3 in 2's
Im silver I just want to know how to control the ball while it's in the air
If you can help with that I'll be really appreciative
kbm or controller?
Controller
ima be honest u porlly wont be able to do it for quite some time i m bored tho s oi mwilling to help if u can hop on vc
Ye
called u in dm
can sum1 teach me or explain to me how to do a wavedash at the end of the kickoff
someone down to help me with breezies i m on kbm
Let’s get 2 for privs
🥳
hell nah bro i woke up at like 4am today its like 11pm already
brainless mechs spam is all i can manage to do
what rank r u
c3
teach me how to get out of diamond fr 💔
simple play for ur tm8 and be able to read the bacboard for really easy goals flicks and powershots help a lot
Hit ball
dayum, peak advice
dont hit ball dimaond ball hit bad
is plat 3 around the time to start learning flip resets etc?
i started at plat 2
i started at champ 2 and i still didnt need it
rlly??
i see alot of plats using it
yeah well, air dribble dunks are wayyy easier and because of the consistency wayyy more OP
when i was c3 i never did ceiling shots in ranked
a clean air dribble (maybe air dribble bump) is gonna be better than a wacky flip reset
is there a way to not have to add as friend to message a person from LFG chat
good flip resets can really help, but thats high level stuff
you can click on the blue name to see their profile
Bro how do I learn directional air roll like I have no idea what each joystick side means
i use cntrl + f and type in the gamemode i want, then jump to the message i want to respond to, click on their profile and dm them
Does anyone know any good tutorials other than that sppokyluke guy
wayton pilkin on youtube
Thank you bro
still makes me add them as friend first so weird haha
you might have enabled that only friends can dm you
so for YOUR settings, you need to add them first
ty for info
❤️ np
im looking for someone to help me get better at rapids
at last https://medal.tv/games/rocket-league/clips/lgmrLGCqLXdysO7js?invite=cr-MSxHMEUsMjAyMzc5ODI1&v=9 im finally champ
Briscoe
Anyone know what I should do when I’m on the edge of losing diamond and going to plat
u win
I can’t that’s the thing