gives the same epiphany on the 3rd card
#Chaos Zero Nightmare
hazy nebula
keen hinge
if only shiled retain permanently
hazy nebula
i think that would be too broken
hazy nebula
from what i heard, in beta, you didnt take any mental damage if you ended the turn
so when the game released, they added end of turn mental damage
cause shields were too broken
hazy nebula
i mean khalipe was more dps focused in the beta
so she just aoe down everything while providing like 800 shield or something
so you could just run a 0 healer comp
keen hinge
i guess
hazy nebula
i didnt play beta too but thats what i heard
hazy nebula
7/7
hazy nebula
mine is still on 0/7
keen hinge
lol
keen hinge
i just dont care with the meme
and just want to complete everything if i can
is prywden still a good source for build
or u use other site
hazy nebula
uhh i dont really use any
i only use the one in pinned to see what epiphanies each combatant has
then read what each one does
hazy nebula
yeah just use whatever
game is constantly updating so your current build is probably going to be useless
they might add new game mechanics in
keen hinge
hazy nebula
like for this season, they added the equipment hammer etc
just farm enough for the bare minimum
no need to go all out for the min max build
keen hinge
just for guide to get whichever is better
im also just farming mats
fuck the gear
surely there will be better gear set
hazy nebula
yeah there will always be stronger sets
pretty sure they will make it easier to get mats and memory fragments down the line
they probably dont want to make it too easy to get mats and shit early to keep some retention
keen hinge
yea
but i still feel the potential sink too many resource
they could have reduced it a bit
hazy nebula
yeah it would be nice to not be farming only mats
hazy nebula
Tiphera generates [Creation] cards with various effects such as Heal, Shields, AP, and ally buffs, and uses those cards to provide powerful allied support.
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Tiphera generates [Creation] cards with various effects such as Heal, Shields, A...
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Level: 3
[ Fiend / Tuner / Effect ]
ATK 800 / DEF 600
keen hinge
u mean Tiphera?
ionic stream
yes
keen hinge
so Tiphera is limited?
broken lilyBOT
@keen hinge has leveled up! (29 ➜ 30)
charred vortex
hazy nebula
i have no idea what that means
upbeat cobalt
Shameless
keen hinge
No limited this season
yeah that's what i asked
i knew only seriel limited
the old characters still has the same cards
why they even bother putting the old one
but looks like there is coop?
or just copying czn like xelyfer said
hazy nebula
ionic stream
or just copying czn like xelyfer said
art style aint it man
keen hinge
yeah some people actually said the old artstyle is better
but for me it doesnt really matter
unless it is like Mewgenics
too many black/dark colords
charred vortex
or just copying czn like xelyfer said
co op and the way team set up
but
it may inspired czn make co op mode for this
copy each other homework
hazy nebula
no one will play czn coop
i think sts2 coop is also a gimmick
i doubt many people will play it
you'll be investing a lot of dev time for like 5% of the community
(5% is just my guess)
ionic stream
games in general are just way more fun in coop
hazy nebula
i mean for sure it'll be more fun if you have someone to coop with
but you have to be realistic with your product
how often are you going to coop with your friends in sts2
vs you playing by yourself
assuming you are interested in sts2
split cipher
any way to learn top tier deck builds i dont have much time to theorycraft
pulled narja from normal banner earlier
i mean prev unit idk what her name is
hazy nebula
yeah you can just look at pinned
that guy makes generally good builds
if you want top tier deck then you will need to look for exploits 
like things that are broken
so broken that you have to try your best to convince yourself that it wont be nerfed
like spore card with orlea or beryl
when you can enable your carry to hit 10m in 1 hit
hazy nebula
it should be working
split cipher
link me nine builds
hazy nebula
split cipher
i need beryl too
hazy nebula
and memory fragment is the new set
30% damage multiplier
beryl is the support build with spore harvester card
and copy guilty pleasure with the activate retain epiphany
but the spore card got nerfed
hazy nebula
there is a dps beryl build
its just copying opening found
with the epiphany that attacks at the end of the turn
for each retain card in hand
upgrade card
split cipher
im short 40 currency to unlock selecting char for dups
hazy nebula
hazy nebula
yeah theres no rush to play czn
just play it like a game
most of the rewards arent even that good
just spend your energy and turn off the game
split cipher
hazy nebula
they made it so you only need to run 2 successful chaos runs a week
so its not that much time investment
theres people that say that even thats too much
like why even play at that point
its only 2 runs a week
split cipher
i think thats fine dailies takes like 4 minutes
ionic stream
on that doc i click any unit it redirects to prev page
It's a bit wonky yeah. But should work to scroll along the bottom. Maybe switch browser to make it work
fast lodge
uhhh how did the new card removal costs work?
hazy nebula
yeah its 0/0/40 now
you dont actually need to know
all you need to know is that compared to the old version
this one allows you to dupe and remove more cards
also convert is now useless, it doesnt save you any faint memory
sweet remnant
monster cards have rarity now too and the cost is like 20/40/60/80 or something
so you can actually take most monster cards
if they work for your build
ionic stream
also convert is now useless, it doesnt save you any faint memory
its not useless if it converts into something you can use but yes kinda useless
sweet remnant
i usually convert on narja because she has a high chance to get wanderer/rally/gbag
others not usually
ionic stream
I never prefarm
Don't look at anything
No leaks or whatever
The character arrives then I'll have a look
sweet remnant
with the 10 from today this is where i'm at, and i prefarmed potential mats
using a character without potentials at least mostly done is the most painful thing
hazy nebula
Still trying to farm a decent set for nine
Amazing gearing system
All I'm looking for is 3 lines
Not even 4
Def flat or Def %, crit, crit dam
Still haven't found a set
Been farming since nine released
hazy nebula
i wonder which set is good for her 
new sets getting released when new characters come out
fast lodge
What set does the new unti want?
the exhaust support set from the newest domain
the one alongside Nine's set
upbeat cobalt
fast lodge
main falcon
Waiting for the day where SG's creator pay is cash
hazy nebula
pretty sure you can get the same if you just stream your 2 runs a week
No one pays cash
unless its a sponsorship
hazy nebula
hazy nebula
when you go into the arena or gods hammer at the end of the chaos run
you can upgrade a piece of equipment
with bonus abilities
its like the divs in poe
gamba character?
holy gamba
actually gamba unit
all her cards are gamba
E4 is basically Nines best friend
her ass cheeks are out
and panties are showing
no wonder they showed yellow striped panties on her character design
kayron is here for fun
uuh why are they exposed
skill tree this update
only 1 combatant at a time
time to learn how to draw guys
hazy nebula
so shes basically a better mika
upbeat cobalt
I just built my mika
upbeat cobalt
Probably going to build my Kayron now
sweet remnant
got her in like 65, got her partner in 10
hazy nebula
time to farm that memory fragment
sweet remnant
seems like her basic idea is to farm triangles and boost the next attack
charred vortex
10 pull
when are they going to put this game on steam?
along with slay the sprite for
sweet remnant
probably never, i bet their anticheat doesn't pass steam's malware check
split cipher
is new unit any good?
sweet remnant
her partner and memory fragment set bonus are for sure good, her kit seems like rei + mika put together so probably good
probably like a 50% ish boost in buffs over rei and better sustain than mika but with less AP generation than both i think? still figuring things out
also she can draw like crazy, better than both of them if built for it
nvm, she generates AP too
so just put rei and mika together and buff them and that's the new character
split cipher
sweet remnant
creation and destruction has 2 or 3 bad epiphanies so you wanna try and get that first to see if your run is bricked
like this is a brick IMO
except maybe the first one if you somehow can handle playing tiphera and orlea in the same team
hazy nebula
She's a support combatant
So she will have infinite value
Unless they release another combatant that's the same but better
She's basically a cross between orlea and mika
craggy steeple
so shes basically a better mika
the brat?
time to spend my hoarded pulls
first 10 pull 
we still hoarding ig
nvm it was pity from before lol
guaranteed
tiana worth pulling as well?
upbeat cobalt
I got like 20k crystals left 
I didn't know I had that ego manifest item, saved myself one copy for the next limited.
median trench
didn't play current chaos at all, is t15 common?
median trench
yeah, does tiphera has draw
hazy nebula
meaning you have to draw it first
and then discard it so it goes into the graveyard
you dont even get a chance to see that card until the next shuffle
if that was just -1 draw
it wouldnt be as bad
cause then you can at least still get that card you would have missed
hazy nebula
those are bad too yeah
but they are still somewhat manageable
easiest for sure is no rest, less gold and take damage every turn
im not sure if elite is good
idk how they generate the floors
if theres more elites, does that mean theres less ? events
hazy nebula
this seasonal arena boss is way too shilled towards single hard hits
the concept and stuff are good
but they are shilling way too hard
median trench
🦆 🚬
hazy nebula
you cant even do the secret boss cause multi hit combatants is an instant loss
median trench
when game on steam, I hate stove 
hazy nebula
it wont ever go on stove
i mean steam
steam takes like 30% of the profits
plus, even if it goes on steam
it wont even matter
cause it will probably just launch stove
so you're just putting it on steam so steam can take 30%
to launch stove client
median trench
median trench
should I get orlea
hazy nebula
shes pretty good
just get who you want
shes probably top 3 support
at the moment
but that might be because the season is def + retain + exhaust shilled
but even then, shes probably within the top 3 supports
median trench
just get who you want
I'm missing renoa, luke and orlea from selector. prolly I'll just get her
hazy nebula
yeah just pick up orlea
i have always been a support > carry type guy
you can always replace the carry, but in this season, i guess you can't really cause its so shilled towards def so you basically NEED nine
but outside of this season chaos, you can basically run any carry
supports will always be the corner stone of your comp to enable the carry
median trench
I'd need lvl nine 
hazy nebula
just use the free upgrade thing they have
the only downside is that its not completely maxed out and theres a 72h period between choosing a new combatant
but at least you can use them without investing
hazy nebula
New damage set or crit on 2 cost and above
median trench
hazy nebula
probably better to farm the new set
that way you can also farm the other new set
for tiphera
median trench
does orlea use that set too?
hazy nebula
she can
orlea generates and uses exhaust skill cards
2/3 of her exhaust cards is skill, the other is attack
median trench
median trench
almost good
ionic stream
i mean steam
i guess but its fucking dogshit
steam is easily, easily worth the 30%
but the stove execs think they can push their own platform
sweet remnant
they also don't take 30% of all sales, just the ones you do through steam as a platform
so its not telling the whole story to just say 30%
in reality its going to be a tiny amount since they don't use steam to process their mtx
i bet its just cause they don't want to make changes to pass steam validation process
hazy nebula
but that also means that they cant have any sales anywhere
all sales must be at least steam pricing
thats one of the rules of using steam as a platform
and with at least half the people on PC asking for a steam release vs stove
you can expect a large amount of payment through steam
no one is going to use a non-steam payment if they are already using steam
especially if the cost is the same
if stove had the packs for 10% off compared to steam then sure, players are more inclined to use stove for payment
but they can't do that 10% off because steam rules restricts you from low balling them
sweet remnant
its not a problem for any other game with mtx that exists on multiple platforms, youre just overthinkinig it
being able to flex their prices is one of the reasons all these mtx games use a meta currency like crystals
so many of these to do 
upbeat cobalt
I need my orlea
I just built my nine flash as well.
I hope I lose the 50/50 and get her on the next banner
I got rin on this 50/50 loss
hazy nebula
just hope you get her randomly on the standard banner
upbeat cobalt
💀
median trench
is it good
hazy nebula
ebony lumen?
median trench
yeah
hazy nebula
its broken if you can cheat the exhaust
like this
1 AP to exhaust that ebony lumen from anywhere
so it basically becomes a 1 AP to draw 4
and if you had that 2 AP from epiphany
it becomes -1 AP to draw 4
median trench
I think there monster card with draw 4 as well
hazy nebula
unlucky my tiphera didnt get that 2 AP epiphany
my orlea got it
also, i think this is bugged?
starting hand is maxed and 5 AP
meaning on the drawing hand, it activated
HOLY my tiphera got the 2AP
god damn this tiphera is kinda giga
median trench
gonna lose divine epi, no?
hazy nebula
i need to reroll one of them cause its faint memory overflowing
i cant take the last copy cause its already overflowing
for killing the last boss
HOLY VALUE
i think this god epiphany
useless
costs too much and doesnt do that much in the grand scheme of things
too much faint memory
ok my tiphera can still get better
lost that god epiphany on dual creation instead of that shitty quantum seed heal god epiphany
hazy nebula
should be good
nine is op
shes basically single target sereniel
she just chunks enemies for like 3k
then you play another character
and they hit like 600
and you are sad
median trench
haru is pretty good with big hits
hazy nebula
yeah
but nine hits harder i think
and shes more consistent
every turn you know you can at least slam them for 3 AP as the worst case scenario
at the best case you pull 3 fighting spirits
and you slam them for 10k
hazy nebula
no seasonal unit this season
but honestly
you can think of nine as the seasonal unit
shes that op
upbeat cobalt
Oh yea I forgot its actual seasons
idk why I thought we were in spring.
Thank god I did not skip Nine
fast lodge
yeah nine is pretty nutty plus they are hard shilling her
opposite of serenial who's now getting anti-multi hit mechanics lule
hazy nebula
yeah this seasonal chaos is omega shilled to 1 massive hit combatants
which is not a lot
median trench
yeah this seasonal chaos is omega shilled to 1 massive hit combatants
and defense scaling
hazy nebula
yeah the def shilling is pretty bad too
but thats the gimmick of the chaos
the 1 omega big hit one
is a the real problem
cause it means you literally cant play anyone but nine and maybe haru
like getting the def scaling/exhaust upgrades for weapons isnt the end of the world
like yeah, its going to feel like shit
but you can still clear
but if you run multi hit/extra attacks/fixed damage characters
you are just dead
like they are literally unable to clear it
craggy steeple
is this thing still useless
hazy nebula
is this thing still useless
its not useless cause we still use it but its close to being useless cause we get so much of it
median trench
she only needs this, right? 
craggy steeple
fk im so lazy to start
craggy steeple
the straight to the point story helped me gain my mood 
thx god it's not jenshine
what's with the mc taking attacks for everyone 
holy giga gooner
hazy nebula
self insert
craggy steeple
emm
craggy steeple
all i needed to hear, prydwen
sweet remnant
just sereniel things
hazy nebula
ez mode gaming
charred vortex
czn devs should make something worth to play to get good deck shit is boring and me and straw also other have a convo about it in limbus channel
hazy nebula
if they make it
you guys will just say its a chore to play anyways
they cant win
the core gameplay isnt fun enough for you guys to play it
you're only playing it to farm for a deck
realistically you only need to farm a good enough deck
the only ones that really complain about deck rng on the daily are players that are trying to min max a meta that won't be relevant next month
wooden eagle
you're only playing it to farm for a deck
classic weebo doing his cringe shit but with discord channels instead of twitch ones
hazy nebula
i think czn is good cause its a game where you just spend all your energy
and then you can go do whatever you want
then come back when a new combatant comes out (new content)
hazy nebula
you're not spending all your time on the game
that will come soon
i think the next update
they said they are releasing the hardcore chaos modes
unless that god one was it?
i dont think it is
cause they said it also removes the played pile
so you can actually go infinite
wooden eagle
the problem is that the game I want flips the division between dungeon and save data gameplay around
hazy nebula
like real infinite
wooden eagle
so you spend 80% of your time struggling in the dungeon and then 20% of the time using whatever decent save data you were able to get to do the other boring game modes
but its 80% save data farming and then 20% difficult dungeon crumbs
it used to be more weighed towards doing dungeons and struggling through in a fun way
but then got powercrept out once people caught up to gearing
hazy nebula
are you playing to clear the chaos
or are you playing for save data
once you get good enough save datas then you can just play chaos
like the save data doesnt even need to be godly
wooden eagle
the problem is the dungeons arent very rng anymore
its easier than ever to determine what epi's you get
you're almost always going to get copy and remove card choices
hazy nebula
thats cause people cried about the rng
wooden eagle
you will always go for the rift no matter what, you'd be bricking yourself not to
hazy nebula
so they had to make it easier for them
wooden eagle
yes I understand that
and thats my problem
the game has changed, it is what it is
hazy nebula
they signed up for a roguelike game
but then they are complaining about the rng
roguelikes are rng by nature
wooden eagle
yeah its unfortunate
its why I dont think they'll ever be able to get back to it
they've set in stone what they can do
i dont think whatever chaos dungeon mode they have left will be able to fix it
hazy nebula
just gacha players being retarded
its unfortunate that many games are just dogshit
and gachas have taken the rein
cause gachas actually deliver updates super regularly
so people come back to gachas
meanwhile games that AAA companies bring out
dogshit on release? lets just eos and fire the devs
like how are gacha devs able to pump out content every 2 months
while these AAA companies arent even able to pump out content every 6 months or a year
wooden eagle
i think it would have been more in their interests to make the seasons harder to complete but tune the save data gameplay to accommodate that
like having a half run save data be enough to complete most of the 'casual' content
because the way it is now you pretty quickly figure out what you need to do to get a decent save data and its just you rolling through
hazy nebula
i think this season is harder than the other content
wooden eagle
its not very engaging
wooden eagle
nine is very strong
hazy nebula
you can clear this seasonal chaos with half your brain off with nine
but when you play someone else, you are fighting for your life
median trench
arena boss pretty hard with nine as well
hazy nebula
yeah that secret boss is insanely hard
but its also pretty shilled towards single hard hitting comps
which is one of their problems for this season
way too heavily shilled towards basically nine
median trench
wonder what cat girl does
hazy nebula
single hard hitters and def scaling
i think this season would be so good if it wasnt so heavily shilled
i understand thats the gimmick of the chaos
but damn
cat girl rita is probably another def scaler
charred vortex
classic weebo doing his cringe shit but with discord channels instead of twitch ...
I am bore
waiting for summer classes and find new job atm
charred vortex
already did waiting for new shit
I want to watch lacari and jenazad playing the story
craggy steeple
waiting for summer classes and find new job atm
play tarkov
hazy nebula
unless you sponsor them like $20k probs
craggy steeple
I want to watch lacari and jenazad playing the story
czn story?
hazy nebula
limbussy
craggy steeple
oh 
hazy nebula
he wants them to read a visual novel
craggy steeple
maybe baldy is humbled enough after this and play it
hazy nebula
nah he aint playing that
charred vortex
he would or roland will come after him
wooden eagle
imagine playing limbus when you could just play league for 10 hours just to setup a notepad stream shutdown combo the day after
craggy steeple
can we actually do something about it if he plays league
hazy nebula
hes right
craggy steeple
like just straight up leave his stream collectively
wooden eagle
can we actually do something about it if he plays league
you can stop watching
craggy steeple
or collectively unsub
hazy nebula
thats not realistic
wooden eagle
all he has is you guys
hazy nebula
its the whole
craggy steeple
fuck that's real is the adguy even gonna get sponsors?
hazy nebula
"if you dont like the game, dont spend in it"
craggy steeple
didnt think about that, even if he's cleared sponsors are gonna wanna stay away right
get fked adguy
unless the obscure ones ig
i'm down for that that shit ass final fantasy mobile game sponsor stream was peak
charred vortex
yeah
gfl2
bro
fob and jena have better sponsor
meanwhile lacari get shit script
and get shitty sponsor
from dead ass trash games
hazy nebula
pretty sure they had the same sponsor
hazy nebula
everyone basically streamed at the same time
charred vortex
and lacari crash out
hazy nebula
but he didnt stream on that time
hazy nebula
but that doesnt even matter
charred vortex
hazy nebula
gfl2 was botting everyone anyways
craggy steeple
🦆 refuses to play new games
hazy nebula
you dont want sponsors that bot you
craggy steeple
even if it has sponsor
charred vortex
he can see that blue hair nurse
in that gooner outfit
@hazy nebula shit is funny that genshin doesn't bot fob during sponsor
only other streamers
hazy nebula
interesting that they didnt bot fob
fast lodge
the fuck is this stuff
oooh they added new thing to chaos zero
can they just give me this shit, getting 60~ per run is so painful I want the copy upgrade
median trench
can they just give me this shit, getting 60~ per run is so painful I want the co...
this one, yeah
new one is around 200 per run I think
fast lodge
median trench
rework this system 
good thing you can open everything, then reset to get what you want
fast lodge
rework this system <:ReallyMad:1080459951752892457>
TRU
median trench
-70 but t15
fast lodge
median trench
if retain activate worked on all chars, that would be insane
fast lodge
getting more than one "common epiphany" should not be a thing man
hazy nebula
idk why she even has common epiphanies
median trench
increase action count
charred vortex
upbeat cobalt
One of the few gacha games where it would be fine if there was 0 gooner shit 
charred vortex
snowbreak and brown dust 2
are on fire
and yeah
if u catering to a lot of gooners
have fun to fix their mentally illness
because of one mistake
charred vortex
only nikke and azur lane haave the chillest gooner
somehow
I bet they just do what they want
and ignore
ionic stream
can they just give me this shit, getting 60~ per run is so painful I want the co...
yeah its too grindy ngl i kinda quit the game
sweet remnant
i complained about this when I quit the first time and they just made it more grindy
hazy nebula
they made it less rng and easier you mean?
if you cleared out the zero systems upgrades before the revamp then you should have been able to unlock the combatant copy selector
all they did was expand on the system
and the system doesnt need to be rushed
just unlock it as you play
sweet remnant
oops I misjudged save data again, oh well this is a pretty interesting counter build
sweet remnant
just unlock it as you play
aka grind
the wolves bane epi is 1 counterattack
on top of the counterblade epi
sweet remnant
for you
hazy nebula
even then, you dont NEED to play 2 times a week
2 runs is what?
30-40 minutes?
if 30-40 minutes is too much then it just means the gameplay loop isnt exciting enough
people spend way more in a single day playing league of legends
or other grinding mmos
poe etc
sweet remnant
theyre also only adding upgrade systems to GRIND
hazy nebula
its just that the gameplay loop is probably more fun for them
hazy nebula
they added the arena and hidden boss in the seasonal chaos
they are clearly experimenting on new ideas
sweet remnant
thats just because part of the core of the game is making new chaos planets
hazy nebula
yeah theres grind to these new systems
sweet remnant
its not really new
sweet remnant
new grind system
sweet remnant
more types of nodes in chaos
hazy nebula
people already crying about the lack of rewards
look at diff 8 vs diff 11
people crying that diff 11 gives NOTHING
sweet remnant
yes of course, its a gacha game they need to give rewards to make it appealing to play
hazy nebula
you have to give them rewards like these
sweet remnant
but that is different from making the game less grindy
fast lodge
you only need to play 2 runs a week
Yea but at that rate you’d unlock card copying upgrade next year
sweet remnant
theyre only making it more grindy
sweet remnant
they just move the grind around so you dont feel like youre staring at the same menu all the time
hazy nebula
and i cleared a decent amount of the system
not the new ones though
only the zero system revamp
sweet remnant
i didnt even mention the non chaos related grind shit you can do now
hazy nebula
what type of nodes would you like in the chaos though
cause they just copied slay the spire nodes
fast lodge
i only played 1-2 chaos runs a week
So did I since Iv been too busy to do more 
hazy nebula
right now theres, normal, boss, events
the non-chaos farm is only there cause of gacha energy system
to make people log in for the day
thats just the nature of gacha
sweet remnant
I'm not going to get into what exact changes I would make because nobody can ever agree on the exact details
fast lodge
people crying that diff 11 gives NOTHING
Also this does annoy me too, I wanted to do higher diffs thinking it’d give me more upgarding points but that shit does not scale with difficulty
hazy nebula
im just asking you personally what you want
sweet remnant
I agree I would like higher difficulties to be more impactful though
hazy nebula
not what others want
cause it doesnt matter at the end of the day cause they dont care about 2 people talking
cause you say you want more out of chaos
or make it interesting in some way
sweet remnant
I dunno, maybe ability to load save data inside the chaos if you're having a bad run and if you finish the run, you can reroll an epiphany
instead of just limited material
if I wanted to make this game myself I would go make it, I don't want to think of all that shit
hazy nebula
oh so you want more of a genealogical roguelite
sweet remnant
I don't know what you mean by that, but I'm just brainstorming ideas, I don't have a game in mind that I want it to copy
hazy nebula
its like when you send a heir or a descendent
aka, reusing older saves
the idea of those roguelites is that you dont ever feel like you're starting from 0
you're always building on from the previous save
there has been talks between streamers with that idea (not smilegate)
where you can make the save data stronger or into the next level
but then that means there will be more grind
cause people will want to chase the min max builds
which is fine for streamers cause they have infinite time to grind
cause right now, save data doesnt really have much of a purpose
you just farm your simulation
and thats basically it
i think they should remove the common epiphany upgrades, those are always garbage
wooden eagle
the zero system is essentially genealogical
do run > get points > upgrade stats/effects to do better next run
plus whatever this new system is
wooden eagle
preach
peak torrent
It’s kinda lackluster as a single player game right now
hazy nebula
the arena boss is not even worth trying to kill
hes so hard
and gives you an item that basically doesnt do anything
peak torrent
There’s a bunch of areas they can target
Basically they just need more
I have a bunch of ideas but I’m not on the dev team
Unfortunately it kinda feels like the dev team doesn’t play that many of this type of game
hazy nebula
i just think that roguelite deckbuilders are super niche
like which ones do you really have
slay the spire and chrono ark?
charred vortex
I have a bunch of ideas but I’m not on the dev team <:KEK:831007857204789278>
u could give them ideas by sent the ticket
slay the spire and chrono ark
yah
also library of ruina
peak torrent
i just think that roguelite deckbuilders are super niche
ya but u can grab ideas from other roguelites too
or even nonroguelites
peak torrent
aethermancer/mewgenics have supremely good wow this is super broken build
hazy nebula
look where that took them
peak torrent
hazy nebula
peak torrent
star renegades is another good one they can look at
part of my problem is they copied stuff without understanding why it works
hazy nebula
thats what they are planning with their hardcore mode
but how they execute it, we will have to see
no save data
just enhanced mechanics
and removal of the played pile
to go infinite
peak torrent
honestly they just need to add more systems so they can make "hardcore" zero mode
so there's more rng
to an extent they're kinda already fucked since its a gacha game
hard to make a mandatory farming mode fun and hard
hazy nebula
thats why they are probably adding the hardcore mode
peak torrent
theyve just gone the gooner route where the goon is supposed to keep you entertained
hazy nebula
so you cant take the save data out
hazy nebula
but still can go into a broken build
peak torrent
ya agree
will see what happens
its like pretty low priority on my list of games so far
hazy nebula
if theres no incentive to have save data as a reward
then you can allow the players to go as broken as they want
peak torrent
but s2 was a decent improvement gameplaywise imo?
hazy nebula
i think season 2 is good
peak torrent
needs a lot more to match up though
hazy nebula
overall
it was just the hardcore def shilling + 1 massive hit
that probably road blocked a lot of combatants
like i understand thats the gimmick for that chaos
but its really restricting who you can play for this season
last season you could play anyone you wanted
peak torrent
if they keep it up it could be a really solid sp game in like
2 seasons
probably
with bad story
hazy nebula
yeah assuming they dont fumble
peak torrent
will see though
hazy nebula
i think the nerfs on combatants were too harsh
even though the combo needed to be toned down
charred vortex
story in season 2 too much glazing
hazy nebula
they should have kept the combo in some way but nerfed how much you could go on it or something
idk
but they completely changed how tressa is played
went from a dagger spammer with agony
charred vortex
too much wuwave in director brain
hazy nebula
to like only 3 advanced daggers spammer
charred vortex
copy mihoyo shit like wuwave
peak torrent
u can now
charred vortex
charred vortex
story is classic cliche
hazy nebula
i think the biggest issue with chaos
is that theres only really 1 route you go
you look at the map
look for the seasonal event
path to that event with as many ? nodes as possible
then spam ? nodes all the way to the boss
the normal and boss nodes arent very useful or as important as ? nodes
while in slay the spire, i think that chasing bosses is very rewarding
charred vortex
yeah
elite bosses node are not worth
compare to slay the spire
and normal mobs
peak torrent
its cuz they made a design decision to limit the amount of rng u can have in a run
its like worst in class for a roguelike
even events have fixed outcomes
hazy nebula
yeah but events on average have better rewards
peak torrent
some events are slightly better but overall they all fall in the average range
hazy nebula
like for bosses, theres only what? 3?
peak torrent
no my point is it's not like mewgenics
hazy nebula
cards thats good
peak torrent
where u can get events that give you 6 mutations
or u can get super aids
here 99% of events you can expect to get one of equipment/credits/epiphany
there's no highroll
its just like ehhh cool I can remove a card now
nice i got a legendary equip thats maybe useful
nothing excites me as much as recieving 100 credits for a random event
fast lodge
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
sweet remnant
reroll at a bonfire
hazy nebula
doo doo epiphanies
sweet remnant
thats a lot of defense
upbeat cobalt
hazy nebula
ahhh i hate this seasonal boss with hands
have to completely avoid that boss
impossible to fight if you have extra attack, counter, agony, aoe, attack spam
basically anything that isnt just a single hard hit
sweet remnant
?
hazy nebula
what are we looking at
the synchronization stats only affects your stats and potential
the reason card is blue is cause the potential node that upgrades the basic cards
you probably already unlocked her on your own one
hazy nebula
flash deck is pretty good now that tiphera can help activate it easier
lots of damage in it
charred vortex
so is there another survey
also if they make this shit on steam a lot people would playing this shit because of slay the spire
easy marketing
hazy nebula
idk why people want it on steam so much
its literally not going to make any difference to the player
putting it on steam only cuts into smilegates profits
lets be honest here, if they do put it on steam
this is probably what is going to happen
you launch czn on steam, it boots up stove anyways
you are basically putting it on steam to launch the stove client
you just added 1 extra step for the player
now, what do smilegate get in exchange for that?
steam takes a 30% cut, but they pay for advertisement
30% is a lot to be asking for
gacha revenue says that they made $3m this month on mobile
we all know its not accurate
you can probably safely assume that they make $10m on PC
So lets use that as a baseline
If they release it on Steam, it means to make that exact $10m revenue that they make on stove
they would need to make like $14.5m on steam to equal that
because if its on steam, then why would people use stove
even though the players would still have to boot up the stove client through steam
CZN is such a niche genre that the players that want to play this type of game will already be playing it or be on the look out for it
charred vortex
you launch czn on steam, it boots up stove anyways
lost ark 
people forgot about Lost ark
fake smilegate enjoyer
hazy nebula
are you stupid or are you retarded
lost ark outside of korea
is published by amazon
not smilegate
