#Chaos Zero Nightmare
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man they need to clarify this additive multiplictive shit its annoying
no
its 10% and then 10%
only 2 times a turn
so its either
+30% +30% +30% +30% +30%
or
10% 10%
not sure which one is better for yuki
ehh I feel like the older one would be better but I'll see if someone maths it
goddamit they made the new sets fight anti-serenial 
dam I got whacked by furries, E3 hugo 
gooners unite
uhm excuse me???
it was literally a still image 
damn
those slaves got chomped
Tiphera trying to stay on the down low
cant escape from nines nose
cat/fox girl
man i hate that "damage over time" is a substat on gear
not gonna be able to use her for like weeks
guess i should be prefarming in this game
😔
hate how few extra stamina items you get
cant just knock out like 30 of them to build a new char
Real and truer
owen my GOAT

wuwa isnt that bad, i have like 90 extra stamina items
iirc
Its those little extra items for talents that drop from mobs, they make maxing out a character so cancer in it
Also do need a big amount of domain mats too
oh those. yeah sometimes i run out and have to convert em
but czn still feels much worse

both for levels, for talents, for promotions 
i suppose im meant to use the exhaust set on nine
I hoped they’d buff the domains but we just get bandaid shops
and the yush mainstats? crit etc
I think thats meant for supports
what really
But again, the justice/order set being additive is kinda eh for her big hews 
potentials is their biggest energy sink
cause at least you can reuse equipment
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REI!!!!
What do you mean by owen and smaller
what is smaller!!!!!!!!
so what set am i supposed to use on her?

I’d check a video or streamer im not too sure myself 
maybe a trap user?

i mean the description is graphic
who?
we dont know yet
but she saves us
as in, me
make sure you dont pick up that curse
or you are done for, its bugged
im in 
so is that one on the right actually good
im thinking no? well, maybe. if you draw a bunch and get several extra attacks
yes
well i picked the new one, guess ill see
not using angel in chaos just feels wrong 
senmetsu

lets gooooooooooo
i didnt get the partner yet
won 5050 so cant complain
oh i didnt notice the third epi turns it into a skill
that kinda sucks
apparently its not +30% but multiplied by 30%

isnt that just WAY better than any set
im pretty sure its supposed to only be +30% not multiplied
cause that actually powercrept every set for justice and order
i guess its time to hit the mines
⛏️
get that set for ALL
justice and order characters

its a straight up 30% multiplier
with ZERO activation conditions
i guess the only condition is that its only 5 times a turn
so its not good on justice/order characters that attack 6+ times a turn
but i would hold off on farming it for now
since it could possibly be a bug
wtf
so lucky!!
i think nine is actually pretty good
not broken
but pretty good
hew is always in hand no matter what
means you will always scale her hew attack card
not relying on rng
did 1 more multi 
gacha guy cant help himself but pull

so uh
how do i get the 5 free rerolls in chaos again?
cant see it in the upgrades
did they buff haru
yes
yeah you can
it just makes it so you have to play nightmare mode
which you are going to play anyways
400% more chaos orbs letsgo
yea i figure it helps you clear seasonal rewards faster
the heavenly hammer is op too
they really cooked in this season
its probably the best patch we have gotten by far
so how do i optimize my chaos progress just for beating chaos instead of for making save data
cause they actually worked hard on the gameplay
rather than UI or translations
a lot of previous patches were just about fixing translations and tweaking the systems
this one basically revived zero systems and chaos
i really need to know what upgrades to pick cuz the system is so confusing now
with 3 different sections
and you cant see what you unlock in each
i dont think it really matters too much
all the early ones are usually just stat increases
i mean sure
but you also got a 50% overall buff to basically every combatant
so if you are comparing to the old chaos, your combatants should still be stronger with no chaos upgrades compared to full chaos upgraded
chaos only gave you raw stats which is good and free reroll at the shop
i dont remember chaos giving you anything else that was that important
just pick which one you like most i guess
oh yeah that divine thing was really op
can anyone tell me which cards should I prioritize epiphany for Sereniel and Narja
ive been out of the game since sere, only pulled them
i might just do the middle option
just for the divine thing
at the start of the run
sereniel is remove all basics and dupe homing laser with the effect, on ravage or start of turn, move to hand
thats all she needs
narja is basically anything
shes just an overall really solid support
i just dupe bottomless hunger on narja and try to get epiphanies that give more voracity
can reset tressa 
well that how retards devs they're
that is what happen when u listening to gooner audiance
they goon and mad
0 intelligent
I rather they just do what ever they want and make game good
do I have to leave the fucking run

anyone solved in any way
had to change ephi target
it gives me error only for sereniel
Yeah that makes more sense if its Nine’s set
hugo luke and maybe even yuki can’t use it well since they spam like mfs
Haru probably likes the crit more

the zipper tech is crazy
yeah its omega bugged
but this season is really good
the arena is so good
cause they made it so you have to do a gimmick to speed run it
which makes it fun
and the reward is good with the equipment enhancing thing
chaos runs are way more fun now
i wonder how they will cook up season 3 with how good season 2 is
i guess so if you dont care about the lore or characters
and just want to play the game
i'd agree
no one likes the czn story its essentially written off
i'm waiting for their 'overhaul'
between that I'm not going to bother investing time
so it is annoying having to skip through it all I'd rather just get in
this new memory fragment stage is so shit man
actually put in a -10% damage multiplier for every hit made

sereniel cant cheese it as quick
still decent
dont have anything else to clear
also can thise retarded devs
stop resetting my options
every update, it keeps resetting my memory fragment settings back to grade
instead of obtained
man
this core of memory garbage is really taking the wind out of my sails

going to test out the free gear + free potential system they have
and see if the build is decent

real
so many useless materials
cause you are EXTREMELY gated by 1 mat
its not even gated by a little bit
its by a large margin
you literally can only get it from the artifact domains and its a pitiful amount
or sometimes from combat missions
every other game with this hoyo system lets you get it way more easily if not outright farm it
the only reason why we have so much particles of memory and 0 core of memory
is cause when we run a simulation
you also get blue gear
blue gear turns into particles of memory
same for orange pieces
I am comfy with my +3 gear 
yea it should turn into both or let you choose between them
it should just be cores
honestly
cores of memory shouldnt even exist
just use particles of memory for the whole thing
tiered upgrade materials are cringe

oops
i forgot to level 60 my tressa
before refunding
i guess i can do it for cassius
-1 pull i guess
stacking up bad luck for the next 2 5*

the changes to save data is so good
it feels like you can basically always pick the god epiphany without getting faint memory overflow
the older version was, you get a good epiphany but the god epiphany just made the cost way too high to pick
if the god epiphany part was dogshit
hew flash is kinda op with orlea
since orlea makes lots of exhaust cards
you can usually get off 3 hew flashes in 1 turn
wait for limit character
also I gonna these devs retards love to gate keeping
for no fucking reason for mats
and building
only like 4 limited chars per year dude
when they said 1 limited per season
they meant irl season
so 1 winter limited etc
but how much fun is it to just save for forever
i am happily mih*yo-free, thank you very much

this game is great, you can pull every character and some partners from time to time
mihoyo games are not attractive at all after you play a less predatory gacha

plenty of time to get to pity
we have at least 20 free pulls coming in the next 2 weeks
not counting any that you earn by playing
is it just me or did they dramatically reduce the epiphany rate
i'm having a hard time just finishing all epiphanies in one deck now
this is not bad i suppose
I had 3 crimson lumen but it went over and it kept the hand to hand instead, unfortunate-ish
need to get hew massacre with copies though
why extreme red
wait that's robbery
the epiphany doesn't carry over to leveled up versions
Yeah 
Ig its cause the damage is lower without the divine
yeah epiphanies dont carry over cause they are completely different cards
hew creates one
if it carried over then combatants that generate cards would be insanely broken
imagine if tressa had a morale on a generating card
you would be getting 2-3 morale a turn
for the whole battle
its probably red on the hew extreme cause its originally 350% but extreme drops it to 300% and the red is hardcoded instead of checked
to save on computation
nine is so good as a character
not insanely broken like sereniel but still very strong, easily top 5 combatant
all her epiphanies seem good too
so you're not locked out if you dont get that 1 specific epiphany
(epiphanies on her hew and counter blade)
which is her main cards
ironclad is probably her best hew epiphany
ironclad just has too much value
it basically does the same damage as all the other hews besides extreme
and it also has a huge shield slapped on
oh this is for exhaust cards only
she's such a conspiracy theorist i love her
so, now can get some monster cards? 
yeah you can pick up a bunch now, they work like neutrals it seems
cyborg automaton is OP as fuck I wish I got fighting spirit copies
always take that card if you get it
plenty of free mats in the season shop
and from doing the story missions
but im also a bit ahead on mats since i sacrificed memory fragment farm for it
very mid stats but its enough
how good are the new set
which one is for enemy
I'm using the 20% crit, it's nice to have for sure so her Hew can slap shit hard. She may be tank but she is a defense dmg dealer
my current stats are doing 7k crits with any hew lvl 3 epiphany
i'm sure with better gear it will be higher
hew's damage is so unbelievably high that I envision her doing more damage than sereniel with a good deck
There are no tanks in this game
It's either dps or support
And I guess sub DPS
Which is basically dps
so which one increase monster defense health and attack
also one is a Nine's set and the buffing one is nice for some supports
ok
who should i pick guys ? 
pick who you like
good god man
scamaz
Her lobby bond event though, for the underboob enjoyers
hew flash with sereniel is kinda crazy
so how does nine works
Exhausts cards to do big damaj

the randomness in chaos after this latest update is kind of disheartening
i only get a viable deck once every 3 or 4 runs
thats a lot of time commitment getting garbage

this kind of time commitment is what made me quit genshin and i'll end up quitting this again too if it doesnt let up
they gotta stop trying to artificially extend the amount of time people play
the game has so much replayability without random frustration
Sounds like you're trying too hard to force perfect rng
Maybe you should just be content with a not perfect deck?
well i'm talking about decks with 0 copies and epiphanies with little synergy
i get those much more often now
of course i'll use them but it's pretty unappealing
hmm
@sweet remnant has leveled up! (73 ➜ 74)
I think I just figured out partially why its like this
the new arena event puts you in combat but you don't get latent epiphanies at the end of those combats
you need to stall out the combat to purposely activate any epiphanies before the combat is over or you lose them
f.e. this is the first deck i've got so far that i rolled a copy of fighting spirit
free re-manifestation?

did u max everything in chaos system?
because I have to farm all of those currenices to max everything before grind perfrect card
not everything everything but i have both of the epiphany upgrades and the rare unidentified upgrade
You always get epiphanies after the battle even if you don't use it in battle
As long as there is an epiphany
not in the arena, it skips latent epiphanies
weekly reset
man
weeklies feel like asscheeks to do now
cause the tressa cassius combo is gone
could easily finish all 3 of them in 4 minutes or less
new week of weeklies
a new me
also apparently you want to clear the 3rd tab first then 2nd tab
cause the upgrades are really good
for zero systems
unlock all in 1 tab and reset and then do the same for the others to open it all up
and then you can just pick the high level ones
I folded under 0 pressure and got her in 61 pulls, winning the 50/50.
LETS GO
nine is cool
too bad this season 2 planet is def shilled
so its kinda hard to play anything else besides def scalers
but nine is cool
and the mechanics in the season is good

I was wondering if the portals were different, they are not
not too sure, i just assume its all rng
i did not need to see that
man seeing all 3 recent chars next to each other like that really makes you think they have so many similarities
so much for "super" creative
yeah this game isn't really for people who enjoy unique character designs 
dunno, i'm not paying attention to leaks
i'm also not paying attention to what they tell us
for rita, its speculated cause she has her sticker in the game
if she's the mystery future seeing bunny girl i guess she's a bit different
theres lots of designs
its just that there were a lot of the similar ones for now
theres a bunch that wears dresses
some wear shorts
some wear pants
cracking 700/300 on her is not easy
I hope any of these actually get released
Any gamer knows that for female chars it is: Less clothing = higher def.
Those are the rules.

i'm at 100/170, do you think i can remove experienced strike?
energy barrier was a convert, the other 2 were removals
i probably wont risk it i guess
hey hugo is really good though
that's not bad
i could replace the arbor with this 
i think the arbor is better
this is definitely the best deck i have for her so far
and its counterattack synergy all the way through which is great
pretty good def attacker support deck too
ooo this is sick I need to get it
never did that before
ah
well i wasnt super invested in those 2 chars so prolly not gonna do it
eh maybe i will
prolly not gonna use them much anyway
is he bad now?
not bad.. just not broken
Personally I don't see a reason to use him when I can use vero or narja for support
love the crit chance in this game

+20% from set too
i guess 70% is basically like 50%
at least its still pretty satisfying when you dont crit
and when this nonsense happens
combat bypass button
should be 350 in combat
with gear
your stats already look good idk
better than mine
.
just stick to 50%
real crit rate is 50% anyway
idk what to say i just hit things and they die
i guess i just gotta max her up
her potentials are maxed
well, max the good ones
completely
so thats probably something to do with it
if you're using the +20% crit rate on 2-cost set
you're missing out on a lot of damage
gotta use that new set for her
that definitely makes a big difference
and of course need to farm a deck with the mythic weapon
this thing
that weapon and set together is double dmg without having to do anything else
this weapon is also viable for non-massacre decks
i dont have any good pieces of the new set
only reason i had decent ones of the 2 cost one was cause i was farming for khalipe
thats fair but my 50% cr / 140% cd set is not very good either, 30% dmg boost is just hard to beat
rounds out the lesser crit
ok hopefully maxing her good potentials is good enough
im sure it will help
but yeah i would rather use the new set cause she does a lot of 1 cost cards in her down time

the last upgrade for the 3rd tab in zero systems is so good
selective combatant dupe card after killing a boss
still random in a sense that its 3 random cards but you can narrow it down to 1 combatant
pretty sure they will just straight up allow you to select the card in the future when they expand on the zero systems upgrade
yeah
that last upgrade on the 3rd tab is actually too good

time to see the damage 
just +1 slash
unluggy
damn nice 10 puller
where is this
in feedback in the czn discord
a lot of retards just bump their thread cause no one cares
some even bump it and delete their comment 
way too much free time man 
not bbbbroken + not a 5 star = dead
what for you used your selector from standard?
guys i have a serious issue clearing challenge after tressa incident
any recommended comp?

Veronica
I used mine on Magna but would have picked Veronica if I didn't have her
I just use sereniel but I only clear the first boss
I have too many golden feathers
Sereniel Selena Narja
based retard
spamming fighting spirit on Nine is so satisfying
need to make an aoe nine
with fighting spirit spam
then i dont need to make a yuki
cause yuki is literally worse nine 
its for the best
lets just bury yuuki
im sick of TITS TITS TITS TITS whenever i use yuki

every animation
nonstop tits
she has no mechanic, no way to ramp damaj
she only gets empowered cards when she draws through draw abilities
nine is just consistent cause she always has Hew in hand, and in the worst case scenario, you play Hew for 3 AP
for yuki you gotta bounce through hoops to get a fraction of nines damage

moh 
mohster
nine cost me alot she better be good
shes really good
prev pity it gave me luke dup
easily top 3 dps in the game
and i went almost to second pity for her
when you face the little pinata cat that only takes 1 dmg per hit
cant kill with nine
thats the big downside
sereniel its effortless
alas
chizuru is pretty good dps too
but i think she takes too long to come online
probably 2-3 turns too slow
chizuru just hits a lot of times
whats a good chizuru deck i recently raised mine and i decided today to get rid of tressa shes doodoo now
so sereniel?
chizuru narja is good
yeah im gonna reset both joker and tressa
and flex last
cassius aint bad i think
narja is just too good man
cassius might be ok, but i have narja and vero
what epi should i aim for on chizuru and what dups
its what i use
those are the epiphanies
its pinned in this channel
🤝

the selective combatant dupe card upgrade is so good
in game when theres a dupe card option, its usually random
but with that upgrade
you can select which combatant
im half way through need to do like 15 runs
but the 3 cards are still random
how does it work?
it removes the RNG of which combantant gets dupe cards
but there is still RNG in which card is duped
how do you use it
its automatic
so for events like
those god events where there is 3 options and one of them is dupe
you just click that and you click which combatant you want to dupe
and then it just gives you 3 random cards from that combatant to choose from
and also you can choose after killing the external boss and internal boss
just build your chars
event first boss
yea this one
oh ok
oh i havent tried it yet 
usually not in a rush
cause these 3 bosses arent weeklies

they're for the whole season
i tried and i died 
can usually just roll them over after 2 weeks of casual play
is there good lumen cards btw
the only weekly from this season event is the weekly chaos progress and the great rift
3cost one feels like shit other two are not bad
idk i feel like they are all pretty bad
but you just take it on someone you're not going to keep the save data on
just to clear the mission
you have to have lumen cards?
when you are in arena and....
game is being a bit 
omg this game man...
the bomb blew up the last guy

Why is all the gear on Burning Life is so ass 
It's for Def scalers
got myself an aoe nine
seems pretty good in the new memory fragment
just so you dont need to rng the fighting spirits
would like to have 1 more fighting spirit but got unlucky with the fighting spirit epiphany
only got it in the interior after the first copy from the external boss
also go it as the last epiphany 2 stages away from the interior boss

would have had 4 fighting spirits but only managed to get 3
man I want the copy upgrade but I'm too broke to get it 
just reset everything
and dump it into the 3rd tab
to unlock every option
then reset
do the same for tab 2 and tab 1
then reset
then just upgrade the upgrades you want
surely with 100 bumps the devs will personally reply to my feedback 
would you pick this for nine? the craft is really good but the item itself sucks
oh wait i just realized that i can replace the item and keep the craft so its worth 1000%
Yeah the upgrade is basically on the slot
how the fuck does stockpile work
is it just like 1 extra mana that gets used up automatically
you retain any AP you dont spend while you have stockpile
pretty solid hew extreme deck
man its crazy how many copies you get when you optimize your powerups
gotta do that
I don't have the final upgrades for zero system yet
i just got lucky this time
sort of
the more copies of the same card you get, the easier it becomes to get more copies
getting the copy on the first roll is the hardest part
pag
extreme lv5 doing 8.5k without vulnerable
love that
no crit 
there we go
oh no i should have done caustic
could have one shot
I did Hew for mine
It's basically a card copy selector on Nine if you get the upgrade
Cause she has unique cards
And only 3 non unique cards
Which is perfectly enough to always show the same 3 cards that can be copied
i have aoe, ironclad(shield) and extreme(big damage)
Yea aoe and ironclad seem so nice to have, I'm gonna build it at some point.
counter deck is good too
i think counter is only good if you are going up against low action count enemies
or if you are able to stall out your turn enough that they attack during your turn
if you end your turn and they attack, it only counts as 1 attack/1 counter so you only get 1 hew value
even if 3 enemies attack you
you dont usually get more than two hue upgrades per turn and fighting spirit still exists
youre overcomplicating it, ive played enough of the counter deck to know it kinda fucks, but it fucks hard if you can get the enemies to trigger it multiple times
yeah thats what im saying, you want them to proc it multiple times, then going up against low action count enemies is good
cause the first tier hew doesnt appear in your hand until the start of the turn
so to make full value of the counter hew you want them to hit you during your turn so you can get the first tier hew after ending the turn
otherwise why use the counter hew over something like the aoe or ironclad since you can cheat them out with fighting spirit
those 2 have more value than counter hew
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so what are nine artifact are u guys using
4*
oh I mena the memory gear shit
I keep using the HSR term

also 4* are blue artifact?
new set
it gives damage
of course its another order
going to be 5 5* orders soon
i guess its cause the current map is order weak
but controller so i wonder how she will be able to support
she used cubes in the story
so probably similar to veronica i would assume?
who knows what attribute and class rita will be
assuming that she will be a combatant
rita the cat girl
bricked
How do I increase my cap size? Mine is 270
research



take a break and retunr
later

who are you replying to sir
Just random emote. Pretty bored with the game rn
I hate missing the copies 
wheres your other dupe
did you put it on someone else?

very nice
maribell is my favorite autistic girl
didnt they give amir a home screen
I finally built my Hugo a lil, this guy feels so op 
Hugo really helping me push this now
I regret investing potential into my Yuki

nine just outright obsoletes haru
so i'm wondering the same thing
what will they do with haru for example
Man nine is too op 
not sure which is better, i think 72k
im not too sure
i dont play barrel
i think most people just run 4 opening found upgrade?
and just blast them
does that skill give you a base opening found?
still trying to farm this stupid set for nine
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