#Chaos Zero Nightmare
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its annoying you cant click through it
i just wanna play the goddamn videogame
but they wont stop talking
is that the hoyo influence ppl ranting about
cuz that i'd understand
yes

no skip cause of mihoyo
only 3x speed if you hold the speed up button or ctrl
dogshit memory fragments (equipments)
same system as genshin
50/50
even the store is the same as mihoyos
just sell premium currency and spend premium currency
instead of buying good old value packs
ah unlocked trauma code now
Trauma code story is good, also the battles show you how flexible the units are
And how you could build them in different ways
you can do harus trauma
i use my own team
shes leaving soon
yeah thats what i do rn
but its account locked i think
account level
or was it time gated
i dont remember
maybe you can do it all
yeah use the premade team
it will teach you the gimmick of the character
in this case, haru
you're forced to use the prebuilt teams in some of the missions anyway
it will teach you and let you know if you like haru or not
the only unit i'm interested in besides mei is renoa tbh
renoa is pretty good
Yeah renoa carried my ass in basin
And Nia with specific epiphanies goes crazy with her
but i play monk in all games- ever
so mei was a nobrainer for me
doubt that i ever play anyone else lol
Monk as in Magna?
mei lin
I think by monk he meant a melee hand to hand combat unit
yessir
Yeah so either magna or mei lin
Magna is less attacking and more waiting
oh idk magna
its truly unfortunate that counter comps are useless outside of chaos
since they decided to follow mihoyo garbage with 3* stages
turn count 3* 
Tbf magna applies a crazy lot of vulnerable
They also dont have loadouts for gear so you have to manually switch the one good gear set on all your units

they dont have loadouts in e7
Gearing here is so annoying
And why the fuck would they name pieces shock, desire or whatever the fuck
i mean this all could have just been old shit
when they were copying mihoyo garbage
cause this game was shown last year
and only really picked up more traction this year
but they said in the upcoming qol update
it will have a number on the corner
1 2 3 4 5 6
or something
- ye i really hate that star system for stage clearing
so it will be easier to see which piece it is
forces you to either play strong chars or overgear
Just like morimens did. So why are we not implementing it on launch when morimens already did it for a long time
They'll have a mode where you can stack up buff to boss iirc, that one I think survivability will be important
they were scrambling to fix shit up so that was probably not a priority change
they changed the story multiple times cause of internal issues
Yeah hoyo bullshit
dps race
wah that is cringe as hell
At least they have seasonal endgame I do hope they deemphasize this shit
it is cringe
cause its a turn based game too
with RNG elements
bad start = reset
Everyone thinks it's cringe as hell

its not like mihoyo where you enter
and you basically have the same shit every time
this one, you draw cards
bad hand = reset
thats why i dont understand why this CEO shilled the fuck out of mihoyo
and their systems
Akshually why not just build a deck with 5 outbreak of wars
when it doesnt work well with their game
I really do think there have been a lot of exec meddling
This reminds me of AI push without checking feasibility 
Same but with hoyo systems push because they're the biggest and shit
mihoyo system only works cause you can button mash in that game
its an unga bunga game
Koreans don't protest that shit don't they they're too locked in to Ow*n
nah they hated the 50/50
The basin I mean
which was the only thing i agreed with
I think there are protests with that
the basin, memory fragment etc idk if they talked about it
50/50 is bullshit but if they don't add ML I can live with it
50/50 is dogshit cause they also copied mihoyos dogshit amount of pulls
I'd rather have 50/50 without ML units to be honest
There is no way they're putting in MLs 
we are only getting a decent amount right now cause they are giving out apology anchors
Well if the pulls dry up the Koreans are up their ass

also we are clearing out one time rewards
160 for pulls is a such a mohoyo coded system

I think for HSR's milestone selector I got it almost one year into the game, now for CZN I'm already at 240+ by just using the free pulls I got
So that's a pretty good gauge for the pull economy
Thank you Korean protesters ๐โโ๏ธ
the ceo did say that they intended CZN to be about 30% cheaper than genshit
Yeah you can argue that's because of apologies and 1 time pulls but if they are out of line the Koreans will whip them so that's the benefit we have from playing a Korean game
I think they will be held on to this
they are trying actively to fix the game which i like
but damn why did they choose mihoyo of all companies to copy

(i know it was cause money)
they literally have e7
I don't even mind the currency part if I'm honest, I'm more pissed about basin
a turn based game
that has been running for 7 years
e7 has hall of trials which is better (slightly)
Like finally they brought over the E7 high score mode (forgot the name lul), they just remembered they have it
Ah yes hot
the only reason why e7 hall of trials is kinda reset hell is cause of 15%
this game doesnt have 15%
15% absolute effect resist
it also doesnt have speed rng
they could have literally just copied e7
and it would be the really good
Yes and they finally did lol
I am more looking forward to the mode where you add buffs to the boss, so you don't always DPS race
holy haru is so awkward
get her out
glad that trickcal has infinite elemental tower but they arent time limited or smth
you just clear some as your chars grow stronger
towershit like genshit is residentsleeper af
theres no time limit on anything in this game
except for twitlight basin and weekly 3/3 kills in simulation
twilight basin is monthly
yeah
well, it resets today i think?
the 30/30 dawn is one time
basin dawn is 1 time
basin twilight is monthly
yeah you can take your time for that
twilight unlocks once you clear all the stages in dawn at least once
ok i love magna too
i wanna run both
fuck
lol beginner banner gave me another mei
the game knows
shiii shoooo
dupes are super powerful in this game
yea my mei is stacked
have the dupe now that gives the next 6 instead of 4 basic attacks extra hits
when using her ego
super good dupe
if you can get 3 offence
hopefully the "move" epiphany
then you can clear super fast
"create" is fine too but "move" is way better
cause in this game theres 3 piles
draw pile, discard pile and used pile
all cards used this turn gets put into the used pile and cant be retrieved on the same turn through draw or search mechanics
Too bad I got the create one but it's already super good
however, "move" literally rips it out from the used pile
not used cards due to insufficient ap go into the draw again? or into used too?
i guess there 4 piles
i forgot exhaust
all cards not used that turn when you end it get put into the discard pile
used pile is only for that turn
once that turn is over, the used pile gets put into the discard pile
probably just a pile to prevent infinites
if it doesnt have the exhaust tag
they have to be really careful
cause they said that they arent going to nerf anything even if its broken
broken as in too strong not bug wise
Epic seven Devs ๐ฆ ๐ฌ
i mean if people want to abuse super broken teams or tech
then they can go for it
some people prefer to play it fair or want the game harder so they refuse to play super broken characters
or they might just play it once or twice for the experience
You'll enjoy cassius if you get him
yeah magna looks really fun
kinda wanna buy an account with her but dupe accounts are $$$$
could pick her with 300 pulls but on that acc i wanna go all in on mei
dont need to
i think every new season shop has a dupe selector in it as a purchasable item using the seasonal currency
every season lasts about 9 weeks
do i go magna, maribell, amir
mari could act as dps, no?
idk i never used her nor amir
Dont be afraid to test things out
Just dont hastily invest too much resources
level 50 tmr if I burn all refreshes 
I'm almost pulling on standard just to get Veronica
But I should hold

It's no matter after all, no resources to level her up
Just finished mei
tiddy comp
i hate stove
i'm pretty sure its just playing youtube videos
all the time
even though I paused it
Man the MoC 10 is so crazy frustrating
need all perfect rng
Haven't been able to 3* yet
6 days of grinding and somehow no scarb crit piece
Also 4 selected on scarb set failed 25% every single time
am I dumb here

it didnt even pop up an option to select it
thats a beryl card with a retain epiphany
it should work
whatever I just wont do it again
Oh the img didnt load for me 
So the research upgrade that says +5 nono shop purchase limit, it doesnt work its completely wrong it instead adds 5 more charges to the protos ability
So instead of daily 15 you get 20
Its 2 completely different things 
Idk how tl can be this wrong
yeah its kinda weird running no mika or rei
definitely feels slower but yea
that was the first chaos run
prolly need way more cards to keep flow going with that
you can kinda make it work if you can get the energy barrier in the shop
There's an epiphany for it
is it because of the 'own card' keyword
i'm pretty sure I used it for other beryl cards
thats pretty fire with her dupes
okay thats acceptable
god what an awful run
Fuck my autistic self what a waste of time
The most frustrating part was when I highrolled the first half in 5 turns but got killed on the 2nd half, the only time I got killed too

i dont even do this its so boring lol
i should tho cause im f2p
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Yeah it's basically reroll your starting cards and don't fuck up
Shout-out to beryl though I shit on that lacari ahh character but she carries hard
for haru's banner? probably if you grind non stop
oh easily
and just use like rei, mika, tressa on that one til her banner comes
Yeah easily, probably for haru too
yuki will be guaranteed for sure
we get so many crystals or limited pulls?
wasnt looking like that on my other lvl 36 acc or w/e
on that acc again male 5*
its either hugo or kayron wtf
lots
im sitting on this much and only dropped 30 on haru banner, also bought the daily sub tho
you'll guarantee a limited for sure
30 for what? packs?
just 30 blue pulls I got for free lol
mb it sounded like money, I only spent on the daily bonus
i think i just stay on my mei account
havent really spend any crystals so far i think
10 limited pulls and 4.4k crystals
lvl 32 acc
were some pulls spent on haru banner? you can check its history
i think so since haru is on my account
well if not i buy some pulls if i really want her
so far acc is mei seeded tho
even the beginner banner was mei
when i buy her for 400 thingies in shop and pick her for spark shes almost max
mika is 1 away from max too i think
1 selena dupe would be nice tho
wait whats the switch in chaos
start with 1 unit stressed out?
isnt that good for data value
its a harder version of chaos with higher save data and epiph procs
ah
your character will get stress conditions as well like not entering combat zones or deleting cards
ok prolly shouldnt do it for the first run lol
yeahhh need to get the first clear rewards before doing it
2 runs and 2 dog guys, first run it was a poison buff dog guy and ended up miscalculating poison dmg and took 500 from poison and 1200 from dogguy
2 poison pr turn is really high because you end up getting 4 of them at once on your attack cards
2nd run was also o7 but rin clutched with 2.5k dmg crit and i won
story locked behind acc lvl thats criiiiiinge as hell
and hard battles are useless af for exp grind damn
i'm done with haru trauma
Man almost every single game has story locked behind level
you mean
every new game?
x)
doesnt make it less annoying
wasnt that way back then either
When is sweep getting added?
Bro even console games are level gated
so potenials
are important to deal more damage
I need to max out some of them

um for nikke story get block by require gear requirement if not met the requirement u get fuck unable to clear the story
and games now days do love gate keeping shit
not just gacha games
but gacha and console games are still not the same though
otherwise you could say that level quests in rpgs count as gatekeeping too
just devs being retard that is it
well u either gatekeep by met the gear/strat requirement to clear or time count down or to force u to spend more energy to lvl up

wizadry variant of dalphnie
story require progressing so it got gatekeep very hard if u are weak or being retard
I do wish they stop gate keeping with lvl shit ngl
whats that
good event
Starting to regret leveling planets not just get garbo neutral cards when all i want is gear bag
Next week 
just enough saved to fail a 50/50 tomorrow

20 hours then 7 hours maintenance 
Wait 7hr maintenance? Wtf better fix the translations
yea idm how long it is as long as its for sure fixing
what
oh
it only increased B grade
no that one is always 2
that research is fake
it increases your protos skill currency
thats funny im the opposite
i want it to merge/dismantle as much as possible before using universal mat
why would you want to save the potential disks
seems like you are wasting credits cause the system is too retarded to use the disks first
because gold takes longer to get than those blue/grey materials
yea but id rather save them for when i dont have gold mats
one run is enough to get any blue/grey mats i'd possibly need
when you farm the higher difficulties you only get yellow/blue stones
you dont get grey stones anymore
for the same energy
i know
so you're using credits to downgrade when you can use the disks to just buy the lowest rarity
saving you credits
i guess
im envisioning a situation like what happened to me in hsr
but i guess it doesnt matter in hsr because credits are so common in that game
credits are so brutal in this game
it might be one of the reasons a lot of people quit this game
i just -1m credits today
just from trying to enhancing hugo
and i havent even started a run for today
and i havent even tried getting gear too
Patch couldn't come sooner
Also need to know their long term plan in credit shortsge
yeah the credit situation is just way too brutal
the fact that lacari had to quit for the day cause he literally couldnt play cause he was a broke boy

a whale had to quit

typical shit where you are punished for experimenting
people who only focus on 6 are ok for now
I have like 9 I think and I'm doing fine. Deffo can't get a LV 60 tho
But yeah considering the genre they should make it easier to level up at least
Make the gearing difficult is fine
But if I pull stg I want to use them
Also isn't this kinda goodge
max level for me is 50 too
60 is probably a big stat boost
but damn its way too expensive
yea it stacks up hilariously
To me it should be easy to get a bare minimum going, but optimizing should take some effort
Levelling to 50 should be by default quite easy
Obviously they didn't make it that way but oh well 
I think genshin was not that difficult to get to lv 80 too when lv 90 was the whale shit
Should copy that considering they love to copy genshin
you WILL pay for your extra stamina
I'm waiting for the Koreans to inevitably send trucks

I heard there's a big patch coming. When?
ya
ngl
I keep farming for fire in blue pot
that shit is cancer af

farming chaos on other planet is easy af
Why are you farming blue pot for chaos orbs
Blue pots the hardest chaos planet
It has the hardest inner boss unless you get lucky with the neutral cards
Like rally or wanderer of the void
The gimmick is easy but you need those neutrals to have a chance unless you can clear the zombies in 2 turns
And not only that but you need to draw wanderer of the void on turn 1 or you basically get nuked or lose your outbreak of war advantage
for mei lin and veronica card build
or I could do them on other planet

also ok
i think this is a visual bug 
This increases daily protos skill uses 
Not really its a easy boss if you play according to the gimmick, i have even won with owen trauma full recover and 10 fortitude stacks on boss
Not an Orlea but I'll take the op bird lady 
this account might be dirtier than Fob's

meanwhile xD
lvl 30-40 seems so bad for stamina value
i dont wanna run stages because at acc lvl 40 the grey mats rotate out
the faster you get to higher levels the faster you get more stamina value 
yea thats 3 weekly bosses for me
but seems not valuable too
since i could go for the higher one at 40
the gold drop will still be a single drop at 40
you can also do battle missions if you havent yet
i can do hard ones but they barely give anything unfortunately
hell, you can pre-farm yuki mats even
which I'm gana do
I recommend to not overthink or minmax it tbh
yeah that could be an option
but we dont know her skillset yet right
to know which units to run with her
we do
โคCharacter Preview ใYukiใโข
๏ธ๏ธVA. #ShizukaIshigami
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๏ธ๏ธClass: Striker
๏ธ๏ธEgo Attribute: Order
๏ธ๏ธAffiliated Faction: Terrascion
๏ธ๏ธ
๏ธ๏ธMeet Yuki in her preview video!
๏ธ๏ธKnown for being quite unpredictable, she's the Head of the Special Investigations Department.
๏ธ๏ธ
๏ธ๏ธ#CHAOSZERONIGHTMARE #CZN #ChaosZeroNightmare
she wants alot of card draw aka cassius and Nia
or veronica
we also know her class/element to farm stuff for that
Nia is on her banner so its all good
I somehow don't have Nia either still 
same
but I will soon 

he's simpler than he seems, just focus on card draw
his quests thing isn't that important lol
There is one quest that gives more draw but unless you get the upgrade that lets you select the quest, its random
Yeah i think Nia is a much more complex unit
I'm really feeling bitter for this
I bet I'm gonna lose 50-50 on yuki banner and lose the 30-70 again
Like ffs i just want a new toy
Ooooop I wiped difficulty 8 because I didn't realize I locked my path into red with aura with 50% hp reduction om
how much time until maint
I'll assume it starts on reset at the very earliest
fuck i'm sold
After that is leotard girl straight out of my hentai doujins

Creativity wise the bondage samurai miko wins out tho
oh i got rin
yuki is green
idk
she looks void coded
the leak of the character is most likely real
Void = skip
but the class and skills etc are probably not correct
Too many void chars
she is indeed void in the official site
Game needs more instinct chars or supports
class probably is striker but we'll see
narja euphina next season 
fuck i need 2 pitieees
what narja is yellow?
ye
i thought angel lady was going to be yellow
Guaranteed, trust 
told ya
Angel lady? the one after Chizuru?
can still be ig
What is order again
Green
water
green is order

I member yellow instinct cos of khalipe so it's fine
isnt it just the same info we already had
omg
jenas setup is tilting me 
fob 
-1 sponsor 
its that of someone wit ha crooked tie and shirt not tucked in at your first day of work, bro doesnt give a fuck
what is that fkin bed man 
seasonal chaos dungeon has a lot of aoe huh 
if shes 33%
Jaysusss
lmao
is the KR stream watching jena as well?
oh JP has their own hosts so I assume its the same for KR
yep
EN youtube stream is infested with hoyotards 

i want but uh chizuzu is more my type
tho aoe chars are more fun so far
the acc i have with magna on it
where i run magna, amir, maribell is hella fun
but on a standard deck that shit is awful to play
been through many chars now gameplay wise
and idk mei feels the best so far
i'm really interested in rin too tho
magna is fun too but the start of every run feels so giga awkward
but her counter is satisfying af
stuff like that is really annoying
partner gave me unity
so we were gucci
but still
yeah thats why move is the best
so it rips it out of the used pile
unfortunately you have to rng the epiphany
could be worse
need to remove selena shield and it could actually be my best decks
that mei lin is pretty good
if you could get 1 more unity it would be super good
but 2 is still really good
okay orlea takes a while but I like her gameplay
yes
time to see the save data
You won't keep it anyway
ohoh
gmae bugged

how u fix that
can i just close and reopen the game without the run getting fucked
not bad
looks like a brick for what i wanna do tho
legit cant find a site that shows the epiphany for that card lol
okay I think I can figure out how to do a decent orlea that doesnt take too long to play
but its going to be even more RNG to set it up 
I see people say she's good with rin
Multi hit attacks you won't need to ramp as much
I think I could see it
now blue pot
talk about close
xD
oh damn
do i go for 4 unity LOL
or a second rising dragon spire
Second I think
That's the one that can make your basic hit 3x?
Assuming you get the epi
Oh
i think a 4th unity would be overkill
Hmm I still go with 2nd yeah
how is that mei build only 28500 lmao

Man these guys are retarded
Why are they even watching if they say the gameplay is boring
I don't get it
$$$$
But still watch it every week
how is in last runs deck a shield
probably just a powertrip thing 
It's more like watching lacaris league
But then saying why lacari ditched all his friends
Welcome to the point cap mechanics 
And asking for answers
wait what
Still crazy good tho
its definitely weird that this deck is 28,5 and my worse one is 30+
Some say that if you exceed the memory amount it will default to your default skills
Removing cards take memory
Basically if it's "too good" sometimes the game throw 1 of your god skills and change it to the default one. But how it works is a black box
But again, it's all speculation
Apparently the devs will "make it clearer" in the upcoming patch
man that deck was so juicy
I think it's still quite juicy
That much for just 28.5k is kinda insane ngl
They said that one of the ideas of save data is that you can edit it with resources
I think that's a very bad idea
I feel like you should have to grind to get the save data
exactly
But at least make it known why you failed to keep the one in the run
Like memory exceeded etc
Save data editor just makes it so you just need to run 10 times
And you already get a good save
Bad bad idea
Epic seven is full of bad ideas that they refine in a few months time so we can expect more of the same ig 
But yes they need to realize running chaos is an "endgame" in itself
yo even on auto that deck is nasty af holy
especially with how i built selena
mei hits one time and due to all the marks the rest of the team goes in
is there any other use for the currency you get inside the runs
except the 50 for the items lol
*neutral cards
oh lol theres actually a shop
i didnt knew that
i thought neutral cards is the only shit u can buy LOL
for like training
ok ive been playing on hard mode
it seems

what this for?
Upgrading the potential of your characters
You need that, golden feather and colored stones
get used to using all your stam pots
ye it just sucks to use it for stages that can only drop blue gear
i'm going through the czn showcase
for yuki
and the only thing i see is cassius throwing cubes
finally rin gear complete
i remember when you hated rin 
AHH HELL NAH WTF IS THIS MAN
@wooden eagle has leveled up! (67 โ 68)
patch notes
Act 2: Seals and Forbidden
forbidden what?
cum
looks like we'll still have to grapple with translation issues om
- An in-game help section explaining the Save Data storage rules has been added.
everyone recommend to grind chaos zone on city of mist for mei lin deck and blue pot is a shit hole btw
it better than blue pot unless you got all good neutral cards
if not u get fuck by dog tamer
ye can do that tomorrow then
doing some stuff on my magna, amir, maribell team acc
haru trauma code in case i commit to that acc
and pull yuki lol
she has been my wife day 1, i accepted her ever since the 3 reroll all rin incident, i even have her at dupe 3 in my account 
when maint andhow long until it ends
On reset and 5 hours long
from jena stream, seems helpful https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YLIrSv-reGhWoAofDfR5T9ZQijJShcE_0LSctYTF8z4/htmlview?gid=1122104743&pru=AAABmocHQ0Q*zAPtn-XJ-idJtXD5VtlOCg#
isnt twin star better for the 20% damage whip event
how long is maintenance in this game
Anything is better than blue pot
I just lost my run to the fucking dog
It's retarded how they have not hot fixed that mov
Mob*
gana be 5 hours
starting in like 8 hours
not starting at reset?
nope
Gotta wait till tomorrow to gamba 
Pre maintenance entertainment (in around 3 hours - 10 mins om)
they got it on patch notes
that they're nerfing dogwalker
yes but that shit should have been a hot fix
non mei lin users starving vs stupid dog walker
the problem for me was just that i had to properly build mei lin to be ready for it which makes building op decks for other characters impossible in those worlds.
without removing 1 basic on her, getting the move or create card and duplicating it, and the crit chance or passion weakness card, its cooked
and its not even a world i wanna build mei lin, city of mist was better
yeah
Patch when
I cheese those dog tamer with manuver and
melee aoe card 0 cost after using it it give 2 exahusat cards
what time is maintenance
is there any sheet with chars and their best worlds to farm decks?
i died with mei lin because i didn't get enough draw cards on my rei
mei lin is not enough
it be better if it was just 2 morale instead of 1 resolve
Isn't it supposed to be in maintenance
starts in 4 hours
holy shit lvl 50 Judas is not playing around
second phase he got 8k hp and does 720 dmg
is there any reason id want to do normal runs instead of the harder ones
city of mist wasnt really harder now imo
with that thingy on
wdym clear
also map reroll
cant u clear in nightmare too
normal make it easier and efficency
clear faster and easier
til exploration max lvl or what u mean?
I almost max out my module for chaos
theres no point in farming now but once you get to zero system you have to actually grind clears
and thats at account lvl 40
Norma = very few epihanies, nightmare = alot of epihanies
ig for now regular chaos u can do whateve ru want
Its better to do nightmare so incase you get lucky you ca get a good save
oh nvm almost out of refills
oh
looks like that is exactly what theyre talking about in their bug fix
o7 veronica t4 true and real
well that makes sense why ppl considered to run her as a dps
is maint ova?

thank fkin god
additive + multiplicative x of the percentage
for example if a card deals 200% dmg and a buff card gives 50% boost to it if its additive it will deal 250% dmg if its multiplicative it will deal 300%
what time does mainte end?
Should be in 40 mins
My great grandfather works at smilegate he said maint is extended
Probably will be

FIRST 10 PULL SO EZ
is she even good
What the FUCK
ok mods
idk i pull if the character is hot
isnt this just the response keyword
maybe one activates only when drawn via a mid-turn draw, and another activates even if drawn at the start of the turn

from no Nia to e5 Nia completely dodging lukass 















