Chaos Zero Nightmare

[charred vortex]

we making fun of them

and they start pouring

in

[ionic stream]

[charred vortex]

try to justify

[ionic stream]

Big retards

[charred vortex]

what they do

[ionic stream]

Yeah they're not helping their case

[charred vortex]

and so we shit on them

[ionic stream]

[charred vortex]

they say American are hypocripte

bro like many countries playing this ame

[peak torrent]

wtf reddit is right for once

[charred vortex]

I post a low tier god in CZN reddit to korean communities

bro I got so much upvote

[split cipher]

go get them (tenpulls) reddit

[ionic stream]

Moh just seeing the free apologems

[split cipher]

i need a frog gif looking at czn ssr pull page

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/425417227651514370/1263127200052281487/932711078763311185-2.gif

[charred vortex]

how many pulls

?

[split cipher]

what do u mean how many pulls

[ionic stream]

10 pulls per week

[split cipher]

40 so far we can do better

[charred vortex]

per week

[split cipher]

go go reddit

[ionic stream]

Yeah it's nothing too amazing

[split cipher]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/658049192710766614.gif?v=1

[uncut apex]

any elpers

[split cipher]

iirc u need to pick both options to 100%

[raven dove]

do everything

have to come back

anyways

one run

rin ulti doing 4k with blue wep gg

[ionic stream]

Man it's so lame when it just offers you one of three random cards to duplicate and it's just some dogshit ones or like none of them is from the char you focused on

[raven dove]

i mean that's the rng

not always gonna get insane decks

[ionic stream]

At the very least offer 1 from each character

I don't think that's asking too much

[split cipher]

[sharp patrol]

10 regular pulls or rate up

[south marsh]

which one to pick?

left or middle one ? i heard picking lowerlevel with higer value is good

[split cipher]

left if ur core is dark

right if red

[south marsh]

well i can go both left rin team right owen dps

[broken lily]

@south marsh has leveled up! (65 ➜ 66)

[south marsh]

owen slaps hard on blue pot

but i feel like the middle debuff is insane

[split cipher]

red one is small planet so worse data if u need better data go dark

[south marsh]

fury on enemy death sounds omega strong for the whole run

imo planet doesnt matter , its only the save value

unless your targeting planet speicfic purple gear

[sterile snow]

Yeah sure if u can reliably clear blue pot

Left is free af

[split cipher]

those r both simila so

[south marsh]

but my real question is whats the point of harder planet if the value is same ? or is the gold ones extra special

[split cipher]

[south marsh]

even the void currency is 10% diff

to little

[split cipher]

bigger planet more odds of getting epi and shit

[sterile snow]

I mean the whole point of this mode is to clear as much as possible

if you're not looking to make save datas

the harder ones just give more

depends on how fast you clear it and if you can reliably do it

otherwise it's -45k gold

[tacit phoenix]

they should 180 and turn the game into
Love and Deepspace

https://tenor.com/view/caleb-love-and-deep-space-deepspace-caleb-love-and-deepspace-gif-17620339176963370210

[remote pagoda]

sells better

lol

[hazy nebula]

Believe it or not but some people want to do harder chaos planets for fun

So zero systems can do that too

Highest I've heard is level 80 something

Maybe it goes to 100?

I also heard that you can get 3? right side pieces in zero systems once you climb really high

When you clear a floor boss

[charred vortex]

BRO I GOT A GOOD RUN AND BUILT FOR VERONICA

and the save data don't copy it

[boreal creek]

[charred vortex]

wolf boss aoe weak and defend break 1 Ap and 2 manuvering fire 312 damage with vulnerbility

[south marsh]

where does it say this?

[south marsh]

the number of stages you go through is same regardless of planet chosen

[sterile snow]

no total clears

well it's based on how many orbs u get

The reward path thingy

[south marsh]

From what i have seens, the orb bonus is usually during the selector, like in the above pic the smallest planet with the most modifiers had 80%+ bonus while rest had less then that

And during the stage only the purple flag stages effect getting more currency

[sterile snow]

There's better rewards for spending the chaos orbs later

you're just picking for the orb bonus

and which chaos is easier

no difference other than that

[short rune]

holyyy i just cleared this in 8-9 turns

giga damage

[hazy nebula]

hes nuking

[sterile snow]

@short rune

[short rune]

ohhh mb i didn't see lmao, ngl my haru is kinda a special case since she can ap gen

also my beryl is built on the opening found retain strat too so she's pretty ap positive

like u can just leave her cards on ur hand and she does dmg

[remote pagoda]

im jhon nightmare

[hazy nebula]

https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11163790?boardKey=139238 stove post

10 blue tokens

for 5 weeks

total of 50 blue tokens

i guess i should pull on haru then

or maybe i hold for who is after haru

i mean yuki

hopefully it isnt that blue wolf boy

[remote pagoda]

the truth is

[sterile snow]

[remote pagoda]

the story is actually dogshit but

i'm afraid re writting it

will make it worst ???

[hazy nebula]

it literally doesnt matter what SG does

[remote pagoda]

like, it is as the dev was saying, they had a plan then the lead writer left midway due to what ever maybe

[hazy nebula]

if they rewrite, they are "wasting" manpower on something so trivial

[remote pagoda]

and the story plot they had originally actually sounded cool

[hazy nebula]

its going to delay literally everything just to please some small pp korean

[remote pagoda]

and made sense in the world

and it made no sense the mc even exist

[short rune]

the retain can let u use it twice too for the first time so it's free 2 ap

[remote pagoda]

i feel like the original writer had a dope idea and the CEOs wanted to forcefully put the self insert in

and the guy just said im out

[hazy nebula]

i mean you dont know if it was the CEO

it could have been anyone

[timber glade]

bro game frozen

really . . .

[hazy nebula]

they should add a refresh button in the menu

[remote pagoda]

i do

its quite literally the CEO who decides who gets fired and the direction of the game

its like saying, ''you don't know if it was the manager who subbed the player''

musta been the wind then

[hazy nebula]

yeah but the story writer left

he didnt get fired

what im saying is that someone else could have made the storywriter leave

and then they were scrambling to write up the rest of the story

[sterile snow]

whatever I already level 50 Luke and I got the bis partner for him

I'll see it through

[remote pagoda]

Obviously, they can't fire the lead writer just cus they diverged in ideas, that souds very illegal, at least in my country that is illegal

[hazy nebula]

when you have over 100 workers in a company, its hard to pin down exactly what is happening behind closed doors

i mean the ceo could have abused the storywriter

but at the same time, it could have been someone else that isnt the CEO

[remote pagoda]

if you thik the guy leading the writing department left because of joe 12345 from department abcd, you must be tripping

the only people above him are the CEOs

[hazy nebula]

you clearly dont understand heirachy

[remote pagoda]

please indouge me

[hazy nebula]

it doesnt go storywriter -> ceo

theres obviously MORE steps between storywriter and ceo

[remote pagoda]

its not just a story writer

[hazy nebula]

there would be managers

[remote pagoda]

its the LEADING story writer

[hazy nebula]

then managers to that manager

[thin gate]

the story budget went to hugo's VA

[remote pagoda]

lighting

[thin gate]

dingo

[remote pagoda]

🤝

[hazy nebula]

just cause you're the lead story writer, it doesnt mean you cant have someone above you before the ceo

[remote pagoda]

not when it comes to the direction of the writing

let me give you a situation, we are in the begginings of the gaming era where new games are coming left and right and we are seeing the start of companies like bungie and what ever. there is a lot of freedom and games have a clear direction.

guess what changed

corporatization

guess who comes with that ? CEOs

useless middle man who get payed 10 times your wages to make shit decisions with no true knowledge on the subject

😄

[charred vortex]

I need to build haru

ngl

[remote pagoda]

i wish the MC either got yeeted to oblivion or were a real character like phaton siblings in zzz

i'm so fucking tired of self inserts

[charred vortex]

write suggestion then

to the devs

go to setting customer support in game

then u see suggestion area

[wooden eagle]

i mean if the narrative around the situation is that the original writer left because of constant rewrites by the director

then rewriting it again to go back to that original story

wont work

but then again

the story is real shit as it is now so it might still be better

even if it wont be as good as the idealized version that everyone seems to have

[remote pagoda]

as if, my opinion doesn't matter

[charred vortex]

ngl CZN could write like elden ring and some shit

[remote pagoda]

they 100% filter opinions based on cash spent

[charred vortex]

nah that is what epic 7 change

same devs team

[remote pagoda]

huh ?

epic 7 changed based on the incel koreans opinions, if thats what you mean, not ours

[hazy nebula]

honestly, theres no proof of what happened though besides the fact that the storywriter left or was bullied out

theres just been a lot of finger pointing

[remote pagoda]

sure, i can agree on that

i'm ineed assuming, but only through what the industry has been showing us for the past 20 years

just sounds very fishy how they suddenly are throwing under the buss a random nameless writing director for their shit

[charred vortex]

limbus company summer incident

incel koreans more powerfull

[remote pagoda]

limbus direction were such imbeciles for even responding

[charred vortex]

[remote pagoda]

nah

they tried to catter to them and it got even worst

they started to ignore

and everyting normalized

[hazy nebula]

i mean clearly there was bullying happening for someone to straight up just leave a company thats probably paying them well

you go from writing novels to working with a big company

[charred vortex]

not really they randomly hop in when there is summer and goon shit

[hazy nebula]

and then suddenly you left

[charred vortex]

limbus summer incident because ishmael isn't in swimsuit

[hazy nebula]

but who did the bullying, i dont know

[charred vortex]

[hazy nebula]

theres no definitive proof

[charred vortex]

ngl korean this drama is a mess

[hazy nebula]

could be the ceo, could be the directive

[remote pagoda]

tbh if i could write novels for idn a very stable amount of cash that gives me everything i need, over working in a corporation where my opinoon doesn't really matter and my creative freedom is nule for more cash

[charred vortex]

I see the story just pure dog shit

[remote pagoda]

i take novels anyday

[hazy nebula]

could be his fellow devs, idk

[charred vortex]

and they need to rewrite as awhole

[hazy nebula]

it depends

[remote pagoda]

sounds like a lot

but really isn't

[hazy nebula]

i thought korea has a very low paying salary

so having a more stable job is better than chancing it at novels

[charred vortex]

I did suggest they scrap the ass one and remake the story from begining

[remote pagoda]

sucks that the gameplay is so good but everything else is shit

[charred vortex]

korea gaming devs have low salary as a whole

btw

same for JP devs

[remote pagoda]

not just as a whole

its specially worst if you are a women

[charred vortex]

women = feminist

[short rune]

ok 9th stage of dimensional twilight got hands

[remote pagoda]

from the country of ''i wont give a sit to a pregnant woman cus she didn't fuck me''

truly a country of all time

[hazy nebula]

i mean both sides are pretty extreme

[remote pagoda]

no

they are not

this is nto a both sides issue

[hazy nebula]

but yeah, women does get paid a lot less

[remote pagoda]

its a only one side issue where the other is a victim trying to do anything to survive

the country literally has the worst wage ratio between genders in the world

in the fucking world mate

think about the shittest hole in bum fuck nowhere

and then you have korea with so much tech and information

still in stone age

when it comes to the treatment of women

there is a website that post daily news of SA from popular figures in KR

d a i l y

[charred vortex]

they don't revolt against government and big corp

only revolt and bully gaming devs instead

those guys who make decisions

and korea big corp lobby their government

[remote pagoda]

bro, the sansung owner was arrested for 20 years, in 2 years that turned into a residency arrest and he was still ruling the company and country from jail

[short rune]

what's the difference between the gov and big corp there?

[remote pagoda]

same as in USA i guess

[charred vortex]

USA is less worst

but

soon

it become more worst

lobbying is legal in America

[short rune]

getting there

[charred vortex]

[remote pagoda]

USA is only less bad to USA people ( that is changing quickly tho )

[charred vortex]

changing quickly if they vote another new clown like trump

[remote pagoda]

everywhere else in the world suffers the consequences of USA politics with big techs

[charred vortex]

diff but the same

[remote pagoda]

its the same if you are non white

literal legallized slavery

anyways we are going off topic

[hazy nebula]

these shield guys

https://tenor.com/view/omgbruh-corey-harris-omg-bruh-zoom-court-gif-2693074222613527227

[remote pagoda]

i'm praying the next unit i like has good AOE

[charred vortex]

btw zzz didn't write another guy and the girl love each other outisde of the mc yet the chinese gonna mad about ntr

[mental dust]

yeah but noone is beating koreans in incel olympics

[charred vortex]

different breed

[remote pagoda]

setth and jane

[peak torrent]

the story as it is now has literally nothing going for it other than waifu pandering

if you told me blue archive had a darker story I would believe you

[remote pagoda]

also chaos doesn't have guy and girl relationships

it literally has nothing

Jane explicitly flirts with a guy

[peak torrent]

bro the main conflict so far is the main villain killing one person

[charred vortex]

I curious how gfl2 and snowbreak

end up worst

[peak torrent]

who btw is terminally ill and dying in 1 year

[remote pagoda]

gfl2 is dying

[peak torrent]

and who gave permission for the guy to kill him

[remote pagoda]

not even in the top 50 gross

[peak torrent]

also supposedly hundreds of people are dying every day and being trafficked in chaos world or something

but this 1 terminally ill woman is the last straw

[remote pagoda]

they prob let a AI write that shit

and just prof read it

genshin does it why woudl'nt they do it

[charred vortex]

not wrong

tho

now days AI = everything

[remote pagoda]

shocking how there is no outlawing AI given how it runs on theft

[peak torrent]

I'd believe it cuz the story is that bad

[remote pagoda]

doesn't even need to be horrifically bad

[peak torrent]

like the story somehow makes less sense than the horrifically botched hades 2 ending

[remote pagoda]

natlan for example is shit, but its still almost readable

[peak torrent]

with 30 seconds of cutscene to explain the pivoted ending

[remote pagoda]

and i can safely say

natlan was written by AI

and they just prof read it

you can see how absurd the difference in quality is from fontaine to natlan

[peak torrent]

idk I already felt like there was a big drop in quality from 1.0 to 2.0 in genshin

[remote pagoda]

dunno about that

1.0 was shit

[peak torrent]

1.0 was fine

it was just worldbuilding

[remote pagoda]

i'm like, comparing to stuff like Reverse 1999 writing

both are gachas

[peak torrent]

then 2.0 came along and was only hype moments

instead of actual writing

[remote pagoda]

and the difference between writing from one to the other is actual heaven and earth

[peak torrent]

I mean most gacha have dogshit writing

even arknights has events that are just straight up bad

limbus has issues with writing too but it's leaps and bounds better than most games

[remote pagoda]

i found arknights to have become verbose and pretencious at too many times

hence i quti

quit *

[peak torrent]

it was fine for me

but I actually read verbose and pretentious shit sometimes

like actual books

[remote pagoda]

nah i read actual books

there is a difference between being meticulous and descriptive

[peak torrent]

have u read something like

book of the new sun

[remote pagoda]

and using big words and walking in circles

[peak torrent]

that shit is actual max pretentious

or some shit like

finnegans wake

infinite jest

house of leaves

those are infuriating to read

very tiring to actually finish because of how stuck up the authors are

[remote pagoda]

have you read pratical guide to evil, or pale lights

great author

very fun fantasy reads

[peak torrent]

yeah those are chill reads

arknights is maybe on the level of malazan which personally I consider an easy read

[remote pagoda]

pale lights is a step above in quality from pratical, but i still like pratical more

[peak torrent]

ah its the same author

[wooden eagle]

was it bad?

[peak torrent]

I've read practical

[peak torrent]

the hades ending?

yes very bad

[remote pagoda]

its insane how we currently have 5 different main characters

[peak torrent]

they did patch it and make narrative changes across all sections of the game

and I have not played the updated story

[wooden eagle]

they patched the story?

[peak torrent]

but the og story was horrific

basically tldr is

after the entire game saying DEATH TO CHRONOS

you get a 30 second cutscene

when ur about to kill chronos

where zag is like

yo melioniee u know how ur about to kill chronos lets not do that

and then everyone is like wtf?

and then ur like alright i wont kill chronos

that's basically ALL the context they had for making that decision at 1.0 btw

and then u dont kill chronos and everyone lives happily ever after

[peak torrent]

haha 5 isn't that bad

malazan easily has at least 30+ characters with over 100 pages of pov

wandering inn is another good one (after the first book) that has like 10+ mcs

[wooden eagle]

what were they thinking that sounds ass

[remote pagoda]

i couldn't get over the clear christianity pandering in wandering in

and the book 1 mc

btw, when i mean mc i mean actual mc

every chapter is a different character

[peak torrent]

yep malazan easily has 30+ there

[remote pagoda]

i will check that out

sounds fun

[peak torrent]

there's prob like 3 pov characters per book

that have like 200+ pages

[remote pagoda]

is it on kidle ?

[peak torrent]

2 of them at least have like 400 pages

[remote pagoda]

kindle

[peak torrent]

it's actual book yeah

has epubs

can find on anna's archive

there are 3 main storylines

each book has 2 storylines that converge into one

[peak torrent]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wxjLS13oMcUTYXRwveCZL3U_oVplFrDOiifk1NWSUW0/edit?gid=505789899#gid=505789899

you can see the word count for each pov character for each book

there are like 400+ of them

anything around 10% can prob be considered a mc

[remote pagoda]

is it good tho ?

[peak torrent]

its turbo ass hence the patch to redo the story and add context across teh WHOLE game

it's my favorite series

it's a cult classic

the writer is a bit of a philosopher

if you want a sample of his stuff

this is in relation to a character who is a race supremacist

https://forum.malazanempire.com/topic/22309-the-problem-of-karsa-orlong/

oh wait use this link instead the original blogpost got taken down

[remote pagoda]

i love poems when they are inside the book and make in lore sense, one of my favorite things in practical guide to evil were the songs

[peak torrent]

the kicker is that karsa ends up being an actual nice person

after his race supremacist arc

there is a sequel trilogy on him

where his daughter is not very happy with him for some reason

[wooden eagle]

i can kind of understand the blunder if they tried to pull alast minute twist at the end

which no one got to see because it was super special and not part of early access

sucks to be them

[remote pagoda]

where do i start with malazan

can i follow wiki

[peak torrent]

Uhh I would recommend dead house gates personally

Book 1 is by far the weakest

You can also start with midnight tides

If you want clown duo

[remote pagoda]

but won't i miss context world building by skipping

[peak torrent]

Yes and no

[remote pagoda]

or feel lost

not knowing who is who

what is what

[peak torrent]

Book 1 introduces a lot of the main cast

However book 2 has 0 overlap of that cast

And midnight tides is set on a separate country

[remote pagoda]

i don't mind a slow start

[peak torrent]

So also 0 overlap

[remote pagoda]

i read through cradle first book

i can take it

[peak torrent]

The issue with book 1 is

It doesn’t start you slow

It starts you at the climax of most books

But doesn’t give you any context into the situation

[remote pagoda]

will i need to revisit the book ?

[peak torrent]

Possibly at some point but not necessarily

2 also has the most self contained story arc that is not covered in the rest of the books

[hazy nebula]

man

[peak torrent]

Or rather it’s happening in the background but is not a main focus

[remote pagoda]

ok i will follow your lead

[hazy nebula]

i want to play other characters

but i have no mats

[peak torrent]

Read 2 and if u like it u can read the rest

[hazy nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/wah-gif-2764573323952388777

[remote pagoda]

cash in big boy

[peak torrent]

That’s how I feel

[remote pagoda]

stamina refresh

[peak torrent]

But lvl 50 takes too many mats

[hazy nebula]

also i need to start deleting save data the moment i leave chaos

shits starting to build up

[lament isle]

Gonna be like Stella sora where the first few characters are (relatively) easy to build up but afterwards it's a pain

[wooden eagle]

book 1 of malazan isnt that bad

[hazy nebula]

i think it'll be easier once we unlock the hardest difficulty

but its still a bit grindy cause we have so many different characters to level up

at the moment

[peak torrent]

It’s also where people bounce off

And it’s the weakest book

[wooden eagle]

i mean I read book 1, got halfway through book 2 and then got distracted

book 2 was good but its a lot of effort to chew through

i also liked book 1's squad more so far

[hazy nebula]

I can see the summoner in my dreams

[peak torrent]

@remote pagoda https://reactormag.com/columns/malazan-reread-of-the-fallen/

if you want more context or just forgot what was happening

[wooden eagle]

everyone hates book 1

skip it its shit they say just read the reread

[peak torrent]

haha its the worst book

if you liked the comedy duos from book 1 read book 5

best comedy duo

[wooden eagle]

imagine not liking medieval fantasy special military squad heists

all the other stuff I cant remember

[peak torrent]

“Tehol collected his cup and carefully sniffed. Then he frowned at his manservant.
Who shrugged. “We don’t have no herbs, master. I had to improvise.”
“With what? Sheep hide?”
Bugg’s brows rose. “Very close indeed. I had some leftover wool.”
“The yellow or the grey?”
“The grey.”
“Well, that’s alright, then.” He sipped. “Smooth.”
“Yes, it would be.”
“We’re not poisoning ourselves, are we?”

he also feeds him

shoe

[wooden eagle]

i should read book 1 again

[lament isle]

Damn that devs must know I'm white knighting them rn

Even gave me an extra owen

[wary needle]

was gonna get the bp to support but man

3 pulls

[lament isle]

I also keep forgetting that it's 1600 not 3000 per 10 pulls Stella sora ptsd

[lament isle]

Yeah pullwise it sucks they could be more generous with that. Only worth for mats and 5* partner

If they only give 3 pulls might as well not put them in really weird decision to be stingy there

[hazy nebula]

they're all building up at the same time

[peak torrent]

just read the reread and move onto book 3

[wooden eagle]

no I need to reread book 2 definitely

may as well start all over again

[hazy nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/arriba-gif-12324188786972117417

[peak torrent]

and then he proceeded to nightmare all over them and win

[hazy nebula]

oh

its instant link crash

and people complained about all the mental damage getting focused

id rather the focused mental damage

cause at least you can come back with 2 guys

my team just broke down every turn

the dark grippers are no joke

fills your whole draw deck with shock

so its hard to draw mental cards

[hazy nebula]

sentries

[main falcon]

Lowkey this is better for orlea teams

Are there any more characters that ramps up with retain besides beryl and orlea?

[hazy nebula]

anyone know why G Chord is glowing

i know glowing usually means its "enabled"

is it only glowing cause theres a card in my draw pile?

[hazy nebula]

I think orlea and beryl are the only 2 that abuse retain at the moment

[raven dove]

don't think that effects orelas cards btw

whenever it says all it's just their cards usually

[main falcon]

I think if it's their own it specifically says "own"

But i will test

[hazy nebula]

the problem is that the translations cant be trusted

its only 90% right, 80% of the time

[raven dove]

tested Rin with a card that said all just does her cards

[main falcon]

Yeah you're right I tested it out

Man these fuckers cant fix their wordings

[hazy nebula]

but on rei, one of her epiphanies say activate all basic cards

and its all basic cards from everyone

so its a little weird

[lament isle]

You're generous today

[hazy nebula]

does that skull mean hes exploding to agony?

yeah it seems like it means they are dying to dot

[lament isle]

I never realized om

[hazy nebula]

yeah it doesnt show when you click on them

that would be nice

somewhere at the top or under their hp or whatever

[raven dove]

Yeah but it clarifies it being basic is why it works I think

[hazy nebula]

it follows a similar syntax

but yeah, it sometimes works and sometimes it doesnt

[fast lodge]

holy fuck I was gana be so pissed if it was only c2 hugo

[hazy nebula]

holy

must be nice to get 5*s

[fast lodge]

just pull

[hazy nebula]

teach me the ways

[fast lodge]

reroll for perfect seed

hooooly

[hazy nebula]

yeah hugo is one of the best characters

getting dupes isnt a bad thing in this game cause the dupes are actually a bit insane

most characters get a huge boost at ego 2

but then again, more characters would be nice

but idk how you will upgrade them all

not enough mats

[fast lodge]

its nice but man I would've loved having Orlea or something

I assume farm stages would be way more generous at max ranks

[hazy nebula]

yeah thats what im hoping

cause difficulty 4 isnt guaranteed that you get a yellow mat

hopefully its guaranteed and also multiple

oh interesting

you can only combo 1 card per card used

so you can't combo 2 gear bags with 1 card used

[fast lodge]

o ya monthly reset

[hazy nebula]

5 free pulls

(cause im saving for yuki)

[sterile snow]

codex level 10 is lvl 77

8 more runs of this shit

[main falcon]

It's so weird, beryl's guilty pleasure card dont activate other unit's retain effects

But Orlea's activate other unit's retain effects

But they're literally worded the same

[raven dove]

no way this shit just bugged righ there

wtf

better have saved

[woeful forge]

Fuck beryl

[raven dove]

bro got 5 things that weren't 3* crazy

[lament isle]

Fuck beryl while showing up the new flashy haru

[woeful forge]

Haru was pity

Guaranteed pity

[raven dove]

[hazy nebula]

hes about to beat me in beryl dupes

[raven dove]

haven't even gotten more than 2 dupes for a 4*

and i got 4 5*

gg

[thorn spear]

🧱

[mild sky]

230 pulls in standard still c1 rei

😔

[hazy nebula]

my account is about to unbrick when yuki comes out

and i get all the 5* and 4*

[lament isle]

I want the bondage miko more pray jee

[hazy nebula]

explain your steps

[short rune]

damn u still have to wait even if u completed the target goals

[hazy nebula]

yes thats why you should always do the 2 days ones

that means you -3h

[short rune]

i've been getting nothing but 2-3 day ones

[hazy nebula]

thats good

speeding up your thing

elp

[lament isle]

Byeee

[fast lodge]

bagger

[hazy nebula]

bag merchant

too bad he got whirlpool

that shits garbage

[fast lodge]

That many bags you’d use one and pull 2 other bags

[hazy nebula]

what is happening to this guys pull

[mental dust]

bag merchant still has the basic attack

[craggy steeple]

i dont like that owen's in that pic with renoa

[hazy nebula]

why not, hes just smiling

😅

[lament isle]

This seems to be pretty gud right

Also I got wiped in blue shit that boss got hands (literally)

I also maintained all of this one

[hazy nebula]

its funny how strong the move one is

the rest is whatever

[lament isle]

How do you raise up zero system level btw? I'm assuming just clear, get currency, fuse and level up right?

[hazy nebula]

yeah you just play it

and pick up the shit on the map

[lament isle]

I got wiped at the last boss and got a total of 0 currencies om

I guess I did pick nightmare at lv 40

At least I got template upgrades

[hazy nebula]

yeah just take your time

no need to rush anything

except for your weeklies

those reset today

[south marsh]

Its a haru check

[hazy nebula]

i got 3* on one of them, just rushed the boss

[lament isle]

Right on cue om

[hazy nebula]

the other one cant be rushed cause i have to full clear those shield cucks

[lament isle]

I swear Reddit stalked me they know I have no life

[ionic stream]

jesus christ you're even getting 5* dupes and that many 5*s blessed

[hazy nebula]

yeah shes the hardest boss

at least for my characters

mei lin and kayron both want to spam cards

[fast lodge]

wait this thing has boobs

[south marsh]

Isnt all mental break just over because your left with no hp?

[hazy nebula]

it is

its automatic link crash

[south marsh]

Bro zero mode at difficulty 5 is just easy

And that was without stat buffs

[hazy nebula]

and he cries about goonazad

[broken lily]

@craggy steeple has leveled up! (53 ➜ 54)

[craggy steeple]

how do they calculate the save data

[hazy nebula]

rng

just best to try for very high save data and forget

[craggy steeple]

wait i gave the same pic twice

like the lower save data's obviously better and got more value overall right

why'd they made it lower

[hazy nebula]

why does this random normal trash frog

do so much damage

bad roll = loss

[short rune]

i actually got solo'd by one of these

[hazy nebula]

oh i didnt die, is def not calculated in that?

kayron was crashing out for 99% of the fight

[fast lodge]

goddam Tressa

man what the hell is Judas's gimmick ?

[south marsh]

Its basically pot 1 final boss gimmick

After his turn dont use cards

Haru kinda doesnt care because she fks hard

Also dont let ai auto this it always use the 0 cost barrier and give boss infinite barrier and always proc boss gimmick

Judas fight is extremely unauto friendly

[fast lodge]

What so I only use cards every other turn ?

[fast lodge]

I kinda ignored it and mulched him with hugo tressa too

https://x.com/c7pnp7/status/1984701989692088743?s=46

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Hoooly costs

[hazy nebula]

yeah

[lament isle]

The incel could've complained about this but you know

[hazy nebula]

i think staying on 50

and leveling up your other characters is the way

gold in gacha has always been studied to the dot

they ride the very fine line

you just learn to NEVER waste gold

[lament isle]

Some characters might want the last node right

[hazy nebula]

yeah

i mean if its your waifu then sure

[long dirge]

the leaks you showed last time

are the next banner after haru

?

or just random datamined stuff

[hazy nebula]

should be, but we dont know the order

its only speculated to be yuki after haru

[long dirge]

[hazy nebula]

SG could just switch it up if they wanted

[south marsh]

Please tell me next rate up is green unit

[long dirge]

ngl I would spend money if there was any decent monetization

[south marsh]

I need green damn it

[long dirge]

🟢💚🟩

[hazy nebula]

yeah the monetization is garbage

idk why they went with mihoyo slop

i mean i know why

but yeah

[long dirge]

yeah sadge

[hazy nebula]

people are used to mihoyo styled monetization and mihoyo monitization is big money

same for mihoyo styled equipments

the stupid goblet with like 8 different mains

[long dirge]

I dont think even the BP is worth it

[hazy nebula]

or some garbage

[long dirge]

are the partners inside good?

[hazy nebula]

you only buy battle pass if you want the partner

uhh

i think nyx is really good

shes has a card looting

draw and discard

ill be picking her up once i get the item at level 30

or whatever it is

[long dirge]

with the vpn on the top up page i can buy it for decent cheap price

[hazy nebula]

idk if they would like that

I think they track location

as in country

[long dirge]

been doing it forever with gacha

if they are the first to ban me unlucky

[hazy nebula]

cause in the stove launcher, i think you can enable more security for rejecting login from outside of your country

[long dirge]

still nothing really worth to buy

damn hoyo influence

[hazy nebula]

yeah i hate the mihoyo monetization

its just buying premium currency

rather than buying good packs

[long dirge]

they copied the price and quantity 1:1

[hazy nebula]

they literally sell packs in e7

and then went with selling premium currency

[lament isle]

Yeah although I think they give more freebies, I almost got all standards

[hazy nebula]

[lament isle]

Only Hugo and one other guy I forgot left

[long dirge]

I would wait after the honey moon release stuff

how much pulls do we really get

[lament isle]

Don't think they can afford to not give pulls

After grilled by incels

Incels doing all the work for us

[long dirge]

that shit so funny

[long dirge]

cant even comprehend how someone can get mad for made up fiction ntr

crazy work

[lament isle]

So mad that they brigade r gacha gaming and czn to spread their version

[south marsh]

Imma be honest i dont care aout gacha part of the game its the gameolay

If the gameplay gets shittier i dip out

[lament isle]

If the endgame stays like HSR I'll probably dip at some point too

[south marsh]

Right now game is really easy if your efficient

[lament isle]

I'm giving them grace to be super creative with it though

[long dirge]

I was thinking of spending because the gameplay is amazing

but they dont want me too

unlucky

keep chasing hoyo

[south marsh]

Everyone will chase hoyo, you will choose the most profitable option

If players dont like it why is the hoyo formula most successful

[hazy nebula]

my standard pity ahhhhhhhhhhhh

[south marsh]

My pity was kayron as well

[lament isle]

https://tenor.com/view/e7-epicseven-kayron-s3-gif-20386074

[south marsh]

I'll probably never build him because i have rin

[long dirge]

Arknights is pretty successful and it has crazy good deals

[hazy nebula]

i heard a male

and i was like

[long dirge]

Surely they will keep them on endfield

[hazy nebula]

oh god... hugo?...

then it was KAYRON

from the hit game

EBICSEBEN

[south marsh]

I somehow recognized his voice even tho it was my first time hearing it in this game

[hazy nebula]

Hugo is gojo in japanese

[main falcon]

Hugo is krau

[hazy nebula]

He's right

[split cipher]

hugo is that dog?

ike laigobingo dingo

[mighty bobcat]

idk wth happened there was an aplogy mail with 10 pulls, what on green hell

[amber totem]

Bruh what is this retarded ahh controversy

🤏

These fucking Koreans man

[lament isle]

oh no no no....

🤏

also if they released kiara imma pull ngl

[long dirge]

[mighty bobcat]

Whatever it is must be something bad

[mild sky]

shes a partner sadly

😔

[ionic stream]

decided to go fuck it, time to pull

is she fun

[lament isle]

not half naked = pardner ic

[ionic stream]

judging by all the upcoming characters gonna be a lot of half naked

[lament isle]

im a super gooner but id like some variety too

bondage miko > yuki btw

[ionic stream]

i like it when the characters are decently demure in default and then you can have skins that show more. then its more of an optional thing and also makes it more special seeing skin

[lament isle]

i don't even mind (love even) maribell level

but yuki just rubs me (hehe) the wrong way idk what is it

[ionic stream]

which one is yuki again

[lament isle]

https://old.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/comments/1nv713d/so_where_is_yuki/

[ionic stream]

oh that one

the chunli with even bigger tits

yeah ok im saving this guarantee

maybe its a combination of things making you not vibe

[mild sky]

Rin is preety fun to play

[ionic stream]

man the ai is so funny to watch how it will like spend a lot of resources powering a card then it either doesnt use it or chooses to discard it

clankers man

[raven dove]

I want the girl with her arms behind her back

They adding Tenebria too

Wutda

Ebicseven

[lament isle]

no feet, she's a fraud

[wooden eagle]

standard pull, i'll take it

[raven dove]

[lament isle]

I exhausted all my pulls just because, end up with haru C1 om

I'm gonna go for C2 now

Finally got all the 4* so that's pretty good

[wooden eagle]

i should have enough to get whatever the next banner is

she better be worth it

[lament isle]

we should still have 1 weeks + and a few free pulls

[wooden eagle]

theres still a lot of initial pulls i can get because I paused playing this outside of using stamina

so should be okay

[raven dove]

Need a 5* sup

[lament isle]

damn khalipe bit me in therapy

she kinky

[long dirge]

[raven dove]

Yes it's hot when she literally is trying to eat you

[south marsh]

You took my green male

Bro the 3rd void planet is so boring

[long dirge]

Green males

[uncut apex]

damn just saw a post about a story rework?

what are the crybabies bitching about now 😭

[long dirge]

they getting ntr in the story too?

[south marsh]

Bro all my options are the void planet

Even the fking dog summon guy couldn't make it any interesting

Its too easy nd boring

[sterile snow]

when you clear it you get the same ones

[south marsh]

How do i increase difficulty without crafting them

Or is spending money necessary

[unborn helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/605665268706050070/1434165932938498210/1762001556.gif?ex=6908a81b&is=6907569b&hm=d513edd5f36ce507f7386070e2438c41b82d8af1e389308f9e7c79711551c77f&

[glad scarab]

where feet

[hazy nebula]

#1420607850434003029 message

[sweet remnant]

i guess i'm playing this now

[short rune]

thank god there's no affinity mission anymore

we get lvl gated instead

[south marsh]

.

[short rune]

i think u have to craft it w/ the chaos orbs included

[sweet remnant]

this is what i have so far what can i do with it

[ionic stream]

you dont need anything fancy to have fun

can just use 4* and have fun

[charred vortex]

those are good

yah

[long dirge]

I wish I had renoa or mei lin

you got both

[sterile snow]

P sure that's why they give us 3 slots

[south marsh]

The problem with 3 slots is its all normal ones

And i dont wanna do normal anymore hard or get trashes but the money economy is really bad so. I don't wanna waste it

So im confused

[sweet remnant]

any team suggestions

[thorn spear]

me lin selena and rei is a very offense heavy team

mei lin maribell and mika can also work

[sweet remnant]

that's what i'm using right now

mei lin, selena, rei

[charred vortex]

man FUCKING B6

chapter 4 hard

how the fuck u beat the final one

using haru is naaaaaaaah

[raven dove]

wutda where u get this from

[sterile snow]

Gotta burst one down

just DMG check

[charred vortex]

what build for DMG check

3 dps?

no healer right?

[sterile snow]

whatever u got

but yeah shielders and slow rampers not gonna work

[charred vortex]

ok I clear

no healer

[remote pagoda]

very

[sweet remnant]

am i really stuck here until level 40? what am i supposed to do?

[wary needle]

prep lvl 50 mats

[sweet remnant]

so its really just chores until level 40 then

[wary needle]

if theres no other content to do the yea

[hazy nebula]

https://arca.live/b/chaoszeronightmare/152382290

[wary needle]

should be 7900 xp a day from daily and energy so u getting 40 in 4-5 days

[sweet remnant]

okay I guess I'll just prep mats then

i'm not doing memory fragment sim until I can get the gold ones

this account is cursed

[south marsh]

1 dupe is rokie numbers

Beat 3 rerolls with same char and after giving up getting that unit 2 more times

[charred vortex]

u can spam chaos for lvl up those world

to unlock more

cards and gears

[raven dove]

[raven dove]

[craggy steeple]

i got the brat

katana chick never coming home

[hazy nebula]

o7

[timber glade]

idk if needed

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16V88f5OSkpWHYJxzrjWiNHPs7-WFYTcrWB3NFuDobrE/edit?gid=171392224#gid=171392224

[mighty bobcat]

What is veronica good at. And Mika is an AP battery right?

[hazy nebula]

very interesting that they say that create 2 strikes is meilins best card

move is way better no?

when you create more punches, it dilutes your deck

move basically rips it from your draw and discard i think

which is basically the same but you dont have 8 punches in your deck

you can also fish for the rising dragon spire kicks

[sterile snow]

free dmg, has a 0 cost 2 draw

[charred vortex]

veronica with manuver spamming balistar stacking reload

[hazy nebula]

it literally talks about rising dragon spire with the +1 hit per passion card used

and then you have this

this guy has more translation issues than CZN

[charred vortex]

[raven dove]

who made that guide

[sterile snow]

redditor

[wary needle]

yea my deck with move has been more consistent

[raven dove]

makes sense

reddit moment

[wary needle]

but this kinda nasty

i didnt get the right dragon spire tho so its ass

[fast lodge]

also the create one is upgrade so its one time, no?

[lament isle]

Bruh what's with the crazy ass overturned normal mobs at the end of a run

Also I got stuck with 3 of them in a row so I wiped

[hazy nebula]

you're right that its an upgrade

but you're comparing 13 cards to 10 cards

if you have the exact same deck

but instead of create, you have move

I'm not saying create is bad

but hes saying create is the best

13 cards compared to 10 cards is a 30% increase

for mei lin, and you also have to consider the other characters you bring

maybe im wrong idk

(using the top deck as an example)

Its still a good deck and I would still grab create if its there, but if move is there, i would grab move

[fast lodge]

No yeah I think move is better too

Create is one time so you’d have to manually draw the strikes afterward

[hazy nebula]

yeah, idk if its worth drawing punches over something like rising dragon spire

or the flying kick

[fast lodge]

Move is easier to get with something like joker, and use it after normal punches for bigger bursts

[hazy nebula]

i guess it can be really good if you use cassius or something where you just draw through your deck really quick

[bold grail]

What the fuck

The original writer of CZN wrote reincarnated cthulu?

[hazy nebula]

yes

thats why people were hyped for the story

well, koreans were

[bold grail]

I read that webnovel but TL stopped halfway

[hazy nebula]

i dont think anyone outside of korea know who that guy is

he apparently stopped to join smilegate

[bold grail]

Well I know that guy cos I read his novel

[hazy nebula]

when i say anyone i dont literally mean everyone

[bold grail]

Don't know why TL stopped halfway

[hazy nebula]

but when you mention his VN or his name

a lot of people would probably say

WHO?

[bold grail]

It's not a novel for everyone

MC gets amnesia half the time because otherwise his brain gets blown out

Might be a scenario like that for CZN

[hazy nebula]

possibly

since it was supposed to be a looping game

i mean its technically still kinda looping

[bold grail]

He gets mindbroken and then sent back to the past with bits of memory

[charred vortex]

that sound good

[hazy nebula]

but it was meant to be darker and characters were meant to die a lot like rei