#Chaos Zero Nightmare
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One of the tress policies unlock extra nodes on hard mode chapter 2
free shit
bro this fking si the definition of aids
spams status burn cards on deckand adds frost which make them not useable
????
this is taking me 20 turns because my ap regen and dps cards get frosted and i keep getting griefed by burn cards
the boss cant kill me but nor can i because he has 1k shield so it takes 20 turns
this actually just the most bad design enemy unit in the game, the 600 dmg isnt the problem , the 600 to 1k barrier isnt the problem its the fking frost mechanic disabling your cards and spamming fire burn cards together is the problem , it should only have one of these mechanics IF I CANT FKING DRAW MY CARDS OR USE THEM HOW AM I SUPPOSE TO KILL HIM FAST?????

I WANT HER
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it's just shadow, right? 
burh WHAT do you mean the save data from a run doesn't retain the same cards
what the fuck
yeah higher difficulty retains more cards
yeah, it's even downgrades some giga epiphanies
dragon spire should've given some morale as well

nvm, remembered it just gave always hit weakness
The game humbled my ass but i learned something, special epiphanies are grief if they dont support your synergy
yeah
Thats just an upgrade still +1 ap but more heal and card draw, if replicated in hand as well it gives +2
sucks it doesn't work if you are full tho
No, rin basic skills are too valuable
I instead prefer the upgrade version
80% base card dmg, does not removes rin basic card and amplifies rin and reis dmg
A good char usually has meaningful base skill like khalipe shield and 2 cost aoe
Or rins all base except block
whats the better option? ephiphany selector or giga dmg on elites
im having so much fun with czn i havent watched streams since czn 
cinema
this game is so fucking addictive but it takes so much time to run chaos 
if they can allow swipe for stamina stuffs it would be perfect
i lost my legendary run because i got all 5 mind break character cards, 5 out of 5 and no dmg done or heal take that turn
legendary eqipment ,epihnaies

but it was cinema 
200 boss hp left all i need was 2 rin cards
if i was slightly more serious since start i could have won with a bit of min maxing
but it was fun 
i could have gotten 40 if wasnt getting ass fked in level 40 choas first time reward 
wth, rei does so much dmg 
HAHA

for the girl the starts with K the first option was the let her bite u but the second option was to let her be instead of biting again
but yea ill try tht ig
u guys pullin wep banner or nay
i will once a oshi comes
You should honestly be farming for gear pre30
i will say i was also lucky to get every single draw related 4*. Idk how valuable any of them will turn out tho
nah not until I get all units I want at least
you don't need to pull they said there will be a monthly 4* selector 
actually they didn't specify 4* so I wonder what this will be
According to devs removed cards coming back is a bug, and they are progressing in allowing you to shorten deck in future
the fatfuck deck
bruh my mei ling build getting fucked w 1 of her shitty shield

let me trim my deck proper
o7 boss
kinda insane how easy it was with an absolutely busted fate 
also rally is so good
i got like 3 rally total and its just spam draw cards like mad man with full hand
can I ask where they said this
cause
my firends
are trying to disprove me
I think it was on a KR forum or something
The dev letter that had the 1000 gems and 10 all material rewards
holy shit
thank u found it
?
cool
gz on bunny
@thin gate has leveled up! (98 โ 99)
omega super hell, omega hell, hell
go all in ๐

always worth the first option
if you fail twice the 3rd time you have to roll like a 6 and you basically gain hp\
gain 10% instead of losing 15% with 2nd
just gain 20% 
tru
yea I know
I honestly dont mind it
sometimes the sterting cards are so bad
id rather have the hp
yea
@hazy nebula do u know tho when u can reset n not get laziness? or do u jus die
then reset
i think you have to die
im not too sure
or take the teleport out
when you meet one of those teleports in the middle of the chaos run
i think so, although they should have been more clear on that 
i saw one on reddit
+2 morale
-2 morale
but i assume its +2 morale for you, -2 morale for the enemy

First clear 
omgBruh she goes insane
I can still retrieve the save data right, just need therapy?
yeah
does adding ppl as friends do anything
Not atm
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR THIS WEASEL
First he goes for mika
now he wants to go for rei?

yep u get battle missions
and always take 2 days instead of 1 because credits are useless
when is czn survey
so I can write something for them not to fuck it up the story
imagine kneel to those looser
when arknight and limbus company doing better than them
make story owen harem romcom 
for me when they ask about story YEP

not good = skip
What memory fragments to farm?
uhh idk
i just farmed very little of attack%
and used it as stat sticks
not upgraded
Is the wailing challenge worth doing?
Why are we going on different chaos btw, different epiphanies?
Do we have a list of which is which hmmge
different chaos planets give different equipment
you can check what equipment is in each chaos planet by clicking on the equipment button
before you enter
wailing challenge is the 3/3 weekly right?
its probably worth doing since its weekly gated and attempt gated
lotsa damage
LIGHTNING DINGO
when next banner
16 days or something

0/4 runs today cause i didnt wanna bring mika
i wish there was a 2 mikas

i wish these fuck ass fixed cards werent locked behind classes
it would litterally solve the mika problem
i mean the game literally just came out 5 days ago
they will definitely release new characters that are like mika but different class
maybe not a healer, but ap generator
or someone with giga tenacity damage
Been enjoying mei Lin with the Fire weakness / break stuff
im leveling up my characters
for now it feels like a slog to level them cause theres just so many of them
but once you have them leveled then it should be super easy to level them up
the future characters
stupid noob 
Yeah I still dunno what to "main" or if I even want to main one
I get bored quick so I want to try different comps
Im enjoying rin rei and kahlipae owen

lucky ass divine blessing
Uhm the design does not fit the apocalyptic lovecraftian setting you should feel bad ๐ค
oh my gyatt
isnt this weapon kinda bad
i feel like the 50% hp restriction for only 15% damage isnt good?
maybe its good since theres no limit?
as in, 3 times per turn etc
Btw how do we know what kind of things we get from each chaos
Like how do they buff each skill
wait isnt this card kinda goated?
1 vulnerable no duration
to all
oh nvm vulnerable is removed on hit
Lighting dingo
damn your run looks really fun
that doesnt even look like a mika deck anymore
now it does
spirit in to cloning sources
literally 11 ap
ah fuck
the most important part didnt save
actually almost nothing saved 
lota good neutral cards, from my experience u never pick gear in chaos dungeon u just pick any type of card u can get and use shop to remove dog ones

Whata the dungeon u farming
was just a difficulty 4 order one
K
About this thing, how do we know which chaos to grind for which character
ok thay fucking card even unpgraded is stupid
3 anchor shots outside of chaos in 1 turn
and this shit is op af too
its so much dmg
does that give you the morale before you slam them?
sounds pretty good if it does
just wondering if its smart enough to buff and debuff before damage
or if it follows the order from top to bottom
i think it does
damn thats insane then
but its kinda hard to tell
60% free damage
actually nvm it doesnt
but its still insane, i pair er with hugo anyway
the giga combo
Haru with cassius is nice as well you can use joker to get anchor shot
i rly like that wolf guy
his follow ups and inbuilt draw are giga good
also everything super low cost
Yeah, i also wanted to reroll for male 5* but instead my game is rin seeded
I keep seeing people do crazy shit with hugo
out of all teams i tried this is just the most consistent
u kinda never have a bad turn
this one is good, please be saved 
LVL 4 CHAOS NIGHTMARE IS BARELY ABOVE MY PAST LVL 3 CHAOS NON NIGHTMARE
believe in rng
IM GONNA BUSSSS
first time i feel like skipping on a copy
ig tactical analysis is effectively a +1 ap a turn
yeah, 2 waves is good
btw crit isn't displayed in the prediction right?
nop
bruh owen is so ass the kr hate is deserved, maybe its unfair that im comparing him with rin but his single target dmg is so ass
lost with legendary spear 
im wondering if changing +20% dmg to crit for mei lin is the correct one
well that's why there are different saves
giga support
his kit is all self application his only suppor tis barreir and vulnerable
he is a sub dps
tenacity set will save him
his wind charge is realy bad without epihpany upgrade
yeah but i mean u cant rly look at chars without epi
like kayrone is strong af but without em he is like 30-40% of a char
and + hit is insane with some characters
whats epi?
his +1 hit only applies to himnot ally

if it did work with khalipae it would make her omega op 
no
i tried on khalipae it doesnt
even the charge glow doesnt go away under his icon
not sure, it works fine with haru
is it with epihpany or without
hmm
yeah thats the best way
maybe the dmg was so low that i didnt notice so i might be wrong on the not applying on ally part
but i can say 1 thing for 100%
the extra attack is 70% dmg
it doesnt mention that but my owen did 100 then 70 dmg
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It could be a bug so owen might be buffed on future bug fixes
lost to 3 rocks, that were gaining shitton morale stacks 
i lost my lv 40 chaos run, the new one u unlock
cause i triple min rolled vs egg encounter
and the guy just 2 shot me

Toji build
homie

Kill it get giga item
653 hp left without owen buff > wind buff activated > still 653 ho left> still wind charge buff after aoe used
so i wasnt schizio after all
maybe wind charge exclsuively works for single target and not aoe
doesnt wind charge only works for owen
pretty sure his aoe gets affected by wind charge
but windcharge does works with his own aoe attack
lerekity was saying it combos with haru
yeah the base skill is dogshit it need epihophany to be good
owen is litreally a get wind buff epihany or be useless
its not even lerekity, haru's own trial teams promote it
Hmm then it has to be only after epiphany
3 or 1 yeah
Everytime you do it makes the roll for it lower you usually gain 10% hp out of it
ic
their is an ahcievement for this
worst moment
Suprised you don't get giga f'd when you roll 1 that shit would be funny
was it a meme tht removed cards being kept in save data is a bug?
or did devs actually say that
@south marsh look this
it brought back his basic 
they did say it was unintended and its something their gonna enable more (shortening decks)
Patch when
I write a suggestion in stove customer support for CZN
time to stop those small PP with Projectmoon and arknight shit
don't want this game into another snowbreak and girl frontline 2
how tf do u reach lvl 40? Im at like lvl 37
do u refresh?
I pass lvl 40
yeah a bit
every characters are good
veronica a bit require good deck
also those quests give a lot, the one that are locked behind affection rating
Selena too, needs multiple good cards, that apply mark
how important are dupes for Rei, Cassius & Mika
also how do i usually play Beryl, her style doesnt click in my head
u kinda want orlea with her for rly strong team, other than that its just retaining 2 main dps cards for 1-2 turns
cassius dupes are kinda whatever, but e1, e6 and e4 are good
retain doesn't trigger when Cassius shuffles right?
what he rly needs is last potential unlock
dont think it does
this is the thing that makes cassius rly good
if u have epiphany with quest retrigger, this is up almost always
and rei e6 e1 are rly strong
when they say "cassius's health"
do they mean the shared healthbar or only his
i'm this close to blowing my f2p gems on getting a bunch of 4* dupes just to make them stronger
individual hp
his yeah
i mean i dont have any gear but lvl 40 mika is 260
mine at lvl 50 is 480
with like 1-2 pieces clicked couple times
so at 60 its pretty much an auto unlock
damn I suc. I'm gated at level 30 promo 
the haru event missions are all unlocked and give 800 each so ppl should be able to get it quick now
alot of us should be getting 40 this week so save those weekly boss runs
Which to choose 
left is fine since its the most useful thing in current progression
middle if u wanna prep lvl 40 gear lvling
right is the least since we wont be in need of credit until we start rerolling gear and unlocking lvl 60 stuff

Prob best what ever gives you the best energy conversion rate
no
whel
the only person who can improve happiness
Just get magna 
You should instantly die getting 1 on the dice
That be funny
yay
Menacing Owen on top
nice
asserting dominance
Huh I temporarily saved a run yesterday and it's gone today
I guess it reset on daily
Lucky it's close to entrance or I'd be pissed af
Do y'all ever know what does this mean btw
idk
uses all your ap
x is based on current ap
so whatever you use + 1
Ooop so kinda mid except if I have tressa

Zamn
zamn
think its just mid period on any hero
it just doesnt do alot rather have more dmg or utillity tbh
Welp
fuck this guy

DAMN
Applying patch doesn't mean maintenance right
If it follows patch/maintenance day as epic seven then it will be on Wednesday/Thursday depending on where you live
I guess, depending on the severity of the patch, maintenance can be skipped and you will only need to restart your game
There are times where they patch the game in e7 without needing a maintenance
im at 5 beryl with 2 of her
So something i discovered about healing is partner passive, gear and for some reason tactical analysis with heal on it dont restore sanity
They kinda need to make it so that all source of healing reduces sanity
They also need to update the anti stall sanity punishment , if i used attack cards it shouldn't increase sanity for no reason at start of turn but if no attack card used then it is a good punish for stall tactics
Not really its more about kit synergy, but good t have weakness effect
i see
Cassius can help you get vulture ejection from deck and spam celestial inject when needed tho you can add a sub dps with kahlipae
She lacks single target dmg
noted ty2
wtf moh

more dupe
Try everyone GachaDemon

I'm creating cards but how come I don't get an epiphany
Haru honestly only needs support she already has omega single target + aoe dmg so cassius haru for high card draw nd ap

i need a unit for each element early on so i guess haru is my next unit
i was looking for similar class on each element to swap same partner

Instead of having elemental teams you can have an x element dps focused teams
Like for void go rin team for instinct khalipe, for justice haru team
Or just build around the dps you like
How do I beat the 2nd boss of blue pot
I tried rushing it down but the mobs kept hitting me
ig need to max this one 
I don't think you can rush it down, I believe it has like 85% damage reduction if there's summons
You need to clear from left to right for the summons first
Cause the summons have complete 100% damage immunity if the summon on the left of it is alive or something
oh was a translation patch too
damn i liked the ring to celestial rather than heaven card effect
Top right is a gear main stat selector
So you should get that
bro whoever said mei lin is the L word havent seen her bazongas theyre huge
btw does elite battles include bosses in dimensional dawn?
well i guess i can try after i finish this chaos run
why is the MOC of this game so fucking shit
i get a crash every time
every single time
I have had no crashes since launch
its only in this dogshit mode
each time i run chaos i know ill die to last few mobs before main boss

nice design bro perfect bait to waste time
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one hour per run into bin
blue hole is worst

they will rebalance again
nvm i cleared this time
break damage build
weak 30k mei lin but this shit carries so hard
-50% hp is crazy, i had an encounter that mobs would 100 to 0 my whole shit


they said in dev note they gonna adjust stress dogshit but i think difficulty is more important

Stress needs a rebalance the problem is all later enemies do like 1 to 3 hits, so instead of gaining 6 stress a turn your now taking avg if 9 to 12 sanity pr turn
Which is really high
They need to rebalance multihits they give way too much sanity
one way could be giving a set stress to multihit and to fights where the stress is meant to pile bigger give some debuff/card that increases stress
rather than making it frontloaded on the attack itself
that and regaining consciousness rng is fucking horrendous

Some of the stress stuff is bad, getting healed by gear or parter doesnt heal stress which makes you actively wanna avoid them
https://old.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/comments/1oi94z4/psa_the_random_effect_from_playing_a_breakdown/ better use this before they inevitably patch this out

reload your game big update dropped 
filthy whale
no u
they ask us to lvl up our affinity to 15

after 10


when is the patch hit
eos
Its actually not that much, about 2 and a half basic skills buffed
Yeah the 1ap +1 draw was more broken
also dependent on what unit you put it on I believe
Do i get any 4stars for free from chapter 3 onwards
I might roll for Nia just because her cycling seems more reliable than Cassius
what do they mean multiplicative is this 2x?
thank
on sunday's reset if you're in NA
NA as in global server?
i use the tears
theres no limit to upgrades, you can stack them infinitely
the only time that you can't is when its an unique
you dont even get the option to copy uniques
what is this currency for. Ive been playing for weeks and idk how to use it
So weeklies and dailies dont give pulls? Then whats a reliable source to get pulls in this game so far?
uhh im not too sure, i havent really looked into the premium currency of the game
just been clearing out my main story and stuff
once thats out then i will probably look into what i can get every week/month
when maintance
patching
dailies and weekly don't mean shit btw
battle pass and playing the game doing content > dailies
also that battle pass exp
Are there maintenance? Didn't we have a non maint patch yesterday
they could do a maintenance tomorrow just to make sure nothing is breaking
or they could skip it

Best case scenario is translation patch but definitely not gonna be finished in 1 day 
these are your dailies in the activity tab giving 60 currency a day
i mean they did talk about how bad the translations are
so they definitely aware of it
and that its a big issue for players
Keyword brush first please, story can wait
They should be able to finish this in 1 week
As long as the keywords are consistent I can excuse anything else
Yeah I saw
Inconsistent terminology should be number 1
Like I'm not even sure if this means skills that are affected by upgrade skills or upgrade skill themselves
Because of how shit the translation is
Ik but they say upgraded card
yeah i guess
i wonder if that can stack
if you drop 2 upgrade cards
would that be next 5 attacks get +15% +15%
or would it just refresh it
Cos let's say mei Lin only has 1 upgrade card right and she doesn't reapply
So this won't be too great
yeah i think the 4 sets aren't really great
But if it's the cards that the upgrade card affects then she will have perma +15%
simply cause its too specific while getting attack set just gives you straight up free damage from the start
Or even stack like you said although in this case probably won't happen
Yeah the 2 sets seem safer at this point
Except the exhaust one seems p good
Oh this is the one? I can complete them easily, ig im still safe 
yea but u cant stack attack
4 set is just a 15% dmg increase
u other options are crit dmg and the 10% agony one
and the only one who can consistently agony is tressa
or u get crimson sword
fkin fob pulling 3 5*s back to back 

Do you know if it's upgrade skill or upgradeD skill on that particular set? If it's correct and it means upgradeD skill, seems pretty good on mei lin
i dont use any passion units 
im assuming its upgrade cards tho
every gear set and element type have a specific gimmick
like void set is exhaust
and every void character exhausts
and looking at passion characters all of them seem to revolve around thier upgrade card
I think im done with this game until they fix the translation and do something interesting with mindbreak
Feels like a worse rogue like deck builder than every single one I've played, plus chores to give the illusion of progress
yeah but upgrade card is usually just used once so if it's only 5x +15% damage seems pretty lame
it is what it is 
winnable
ntring my prism module pulls 
i don't have enough resources to build another char anyways 
What's throb?
idk but im going to try it
wait...
if i remove the curse..
do i lose the card?
since it wont be connected to someone
not gonna risk, i want to see what the throb does
oooooooooooh
it was 2 actions
- Remove a card
- Convert a card
it wasn't
- Remove AND convert the card
damn, that means i ramp up to 280% aoe damage?
every end of turn
thats kinda op no?
also its fixed damage
so its always going ot be 280% damage
i put it on mika
i guess damage is damage
Wow the terminologies are as consistent as lac's stream schedule
when you know the terminologies they make sense, usually just synonyms, AI translated not QC-ed 
im THROBING
ahhhhhhhhhhh
every turn
damn i didnt get to save it 
but that throb card is kinda good
might be super good for farming simulation mats
since they are usually 3 rounders with multiple enemies
so you can ramp up for round 2 and round 3
we getting gifts 
i can finally rebound my failed renoa events becuase i like it when she hates me
the disgusted expression does something to me
Disappointment and loathing right?
It adds +100% on the dmg multiplier of the card, its only good for units that like to use basic cards like rin
Are those gifts for affinity
@boreal creek has leveled up! (47 โ 48)
yes
that front "dog" is dead but its not dead 
it should be on the floor "sleeping"
man mind break on beryl is REALLY bad huh
cause she loses all her retains
it'd be nice if we can see ephiphanies in mid chaos runs
if we have already seen them before
can keep the ones you havent seen hidden if you want it for surprise sake
running towards the boss to avoid him
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
actually its not that bad on beryl cause she hits so damn hard
wat taah fuck is that team
actual f2p...
goes to show that this game has some really strong units
is there a way to see what is making it more expensive
oh nvm i can check the history
idk kev
I'm having so much fun with that team
I got a rei with 2 copies of the exhaust 2 for void draw
Exhaust all your futilities hitting 700's per unique
needed to make a stronger kayron cause he was falling way behind my mei lin
hmm first run with kayron kinda failed
do you guys use the epiphany that changes the 3 mana into 7 mana?
and whos his best partner you think
im not too sure
i feel like kayron takes a long ass time to set up
but once hes set up he can infinitely sustain
i think rei is a good partner cause she can buff his 1 cost cards
Funny how i realized i have been playing the game wrong, and i learned that thanks to owen of all units 
Playing a single team and omega upgrading them is not worth it, its better have multiple element dps
The tenacity break mchanic is very good
More ap, stall enemy mechanics and cleanse enemy buffs
Its insanely good
I had such a flawless run of world 1 level 50 with owen as dps, insane impact with tenacity break
yeah
you want to play for the element and breaking tenacity
thats why mei lin is so broken
cause she can apply passion weakness
meaning they will literally lose their tenacity bar
free ap
and reduced end of turn mental damage
i didnt know about the cleanse and stalling
Some mechanics get stalled by getting ravaged
And morale buff gets cleansed by ravage
And every fkin enemy has morale scaling
yeah i think morale can get insane
morale is also the most important buff for yourself
since its a linear scaling damage buff
Is it exclusively for her or allies having same element also helps
Also whats the green element dps
any passion i think?
Owen for red, rin for void, khalipae for instinct, haru for justice then what dps for green
Isnt veronica red
and then theres some in-game neutrals for mei lin that has 2 tenacity damage
so good
Also i finally discovered to how identify if it works in ally or not
If the card of wind charge has attack card USED then its self attack only, when it uses attack card then its for ally
But its with - 25% dmg

standard pity and got this 
wrong male i wanted the green ones
my only green char is amir 
you can, when you relog youll be prompted to continue (else lose the run)
but I think if the daily resets, the run is lost
I lost 1 run that way - I closed the game and then daily resets, I thought I could continue but the run was lost
he is the gigachad
btw
Having MoC as an endgame in card based game is a choice though 

I want the green males 
Also his voice wasnt as giga chad as i expected
Its a bit light
New mommy acquired
Been using Orlea and Beryl retain build, pretty fun comp ngl
I like how you can build Orlea as a pure atk buffer/(vun) debuffer with her upgrades 
how do you mfs have enough materials to build multiple teams
farm the material stages?
yeah muh stamina
conflicted between farming gear, elemental upgrade mats, promotion mats etc
real
Gear not worth farming til after 40 tbh
yeah too much things to farm 



this buff is too op












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