Shadowverse

[mystic tartan]

its insane

[umbral seal]

You're literally miscontruing what I'm saying, lol.

[blissful olive]

no im not ur doing that to me

[mystic tartan]

[umbral seal]

Point to where I said or implied this

[blissful olive]

i said its not hard to play against and ur arguing against this

[mystic tartan]

lol its really hard

to play against

even if ur using evo forest

[umbral seal]

It's difficult to beat a good crystal player. It's why it's tier 1.

[mystic tartan]

yeah it depends on the user

[blissful olive]

really thats crazy remember how i refuse to play creatures a lot of the time vs chess rune on milteo

[mystic tartan]

like i meet some crazy good

[blissful olive]

and they literally cant play the game and die

[mystic tartan]

and some really bad

xtal rune

[umbral seal]

"how I"

Again, because you suck, does not mean it's not tier 1

End of story

[blissful olive]

i didnt say its not tier 1

its just not that hard to play against but u seem to think it is

[umbral seal]

Both Ordine and I play in high CR reguarly. We both share the same opinion on this

[blissful olive]

thats the entirety of what i said

[umbral seal]

I wonder why that is

"u seem to think it is" - I'll let you take a bit to figure out why, as I return to LE

[blissful olive]

so u and orgine are saying chess rune is so good its nearly impossible to play against

sure sounds great lol

and im saying its not that bad

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1050078382018265178/1454397083413909630/ezgif-395a166e2e34663d.gif

[mystic tartan]

why are u wording it like that

there is no impossible to beat deck

[umbral seal]

He has to miscontrue the argument because he knows he's wrong

These were not the words I used

[mystic tartan]

[umbral seal]

Nor did I imply any tier 1 deck is impossible to beat

That would be a tier 0 deck

Crystal Rune is not that

[blissful olive]

kunc is just being weird

all i said is matching into rune aint the end of the world

[mystic tartan]

nah nevia just pack it up bro

[umbral seal]

Again, no one said that. I did not imply that

[blissful olive]

its his ego thing i get it

its fine

[mystic tartan]

[umbral seal]

I like how Nevia is acting like Ordine agrees with him

Ordine agrees with me because he doesn't suck

And knows Crystal is an annoying match-up

[blissful olive]

see this is just ur ego coming out when all i said was playing into rune aint that bad

[umbral seal]

Mostly for decks without insane healing

This started because you said crystal being tier 1 is "lowkey cap". Those were the actual words you used

I have been arguing against that and that only

[mystic tartan]

yeah ur doubting xtal rune

[umbral seal]

You have to put words in my mouth to act like I'm arguing something else entirely

"crystal rune is impossible to beat" - never said this

[blissful olive]

yeah thats you taking things literally again i saw a lot of good decks are ass but ur take it literally

[blissful olive]

you imply it

when i say its not that hard to deal with

[mystic tartan]

[umbral seal]

Feel free to explain how it was implied when I was only disputing your claim that isn't tier 1

[blissful olive]

i just did

[mystic tartan]

how can u say SB is aight but xtal rune not tier 1 is cap

SB only win if opponent dont have counter to it

[umbral seal]

Literally no deck that is universally considered tier 1 is ass.

This is hilarious.

[blissful olive]

SB has more options

[mystic tartan]

i say SB is more RNG

than xtal rune

[umbral seal]

Spellboost is solidly tier 2 and it's why it's nonexistent at basically every CR range

[mystic tartan]

like u need to draw ur shit

[blissful olive]

SB has more things u can do like

[umbral seal]

Crystal Rune is considerably more popular

[blissful olive]

chess is mostly throwing down cage

SB u have shit like kuon wamdus boards the guy that makes birds

and u can still 1 off satan if u want

[umbral seal]

Not only does crystal rune have more anti-aggro options but it can also play aggressively, far more reliably

Spellboost hard loses to milteo & loot

Crystal doesn't

[blissful olive]

i mean it really depends

like im sure im not the only one who doesnt play creatures when there ahead so they cant heal

[mystic tartan]

also haven can fuck them too

[blissful olive]

and just burn them out right after etc

[mystic tartan]

crest i mean

[umbral seal]

Not really. Spellboost would have to highroll to beat both, and it would require getting down a bunch of blaze destroyers on turn 5/6

[blissful olive]

crest is just mickey mouse lol

[mystic tartan]

Crest is decent now wtf do u mean

tier 1.5 i say

its better than SB

[umbral seal]

Again, he's speaking on shit he doesn't know about.

[blissful olive]

crest will always be a nuts until marn goes away which wont be for like

[umbral seal]

Crest is really good right now.

[blissful olive]

4 more sets lmao

i said crest is good wdym

[umbral seal]

The only haven deck that actually needs help is pure amulets and it's because lyanthoth being 9 pp is comical

The deck has to rely on skullfaning storm units before that point

[mystic tartan]

Portal is weird tho rn

[blissful olive]

amulets is close like if it had a tiny bit more support

amulet just gets run over by any kind of early aggro espcially abyss

[umbral seal]

Support isn't the problem. Lyanthoth is just too expensive.

[mystic tartan]

yeah 9pp

[umbral seal]

In fact, rotation is going to hurt amulet haven more because they lose skullfane

[blissful olive]

id say the same about armes

he sucks some ass

[umbral seal]

They'd basically need a 1:1 replacement

[mystic tartan]

well Armes is a menace

in take two

[umbral seal]

The best portal deck is still destruction, with Cami thrown in for turn 7 board pressure.

[blissful olive]

in take 2 maybe but constructed hes pretty fucking awful

which feels bad abyss needs a good boss monster right now

[umbral seal]

Actually really annoying when a destruction portal plays her

Evo Portal is mid since it doesn't do evo spam better than forest

[blissful olive]

camis numbers for turn 7 are lowkey insane

[umbral seal]

It's why most people will coin her out and SEVO her immediately. Even on an empty board

If you have no answer, it's gg

[blissful olive]

why i really like running billy rn lol

next set i hope mode gets something or just give abyss a new boss monster

that and make dirt good again

lowkey dirt is prob decent now it just lacks a finisher

[umbral seal]

The finisher in dirt rune has always been Sandalphon or slowly killing you with Lilanthim. The problem is Evo Forest uses him way better.

[blissful olive]

they would prob also struggle with turn 8 boards

[umbral seal]

They'd need Raio or a combination or Sagelight + something else to remove Althenia. But removing Althenia is irrelevant. They still charged their hand, got to 10 faith, they play Sathanid, clear your boards and kill you anyway

[blissful olive]

yeah unfort dirt doesnt have a

fuck

[umbral seal]

It's why Evo Forest is tier 1 and Evo Rune is nonexistent

[blissful olive]

storm blast

to just 1 shot anything

[umbral seal]

Dirt doesn't run enough spells to charge stormy blast that much.

They could still choose to run it, but it would not help.

[blissful olive]

killed this mf from 20 lmao

[umbral seal]

Average milteo game

[blissful olive]

nah this the average milteo game

if i win this its a miracle

[umbral seal]

Assuming you only kept milteo in your mull.

[blissful olive]

this is the mull

[umbral seal]

No, I'm asking what you put away unless you returned all 4.

[blissful olive]

the only difference is a reapers lol

2nd

playing vs dirt tho so i can prob win anyways

yep dirt sucks

[blissful olive]

i guess ranked resets tmr doesnt it

i'll finish GM 1 at least then i guess just been doing dailies lately

o right battle fes tmr too

[blissful olive]

scoop angle lowkey lol

[umbral seal]

Depends on what you're playing against. Milteo, probably.

[blissful olive]

sword

so same thing basically

[umbral seal]

Not at all, lol.

Enhance is very low pressure.

[blissful olive]

still aggro enough

i wish it was milteo

[umbral seal]

Loot, depends on their opening hand.

If you're going first, even loot still gets cleared by Blinding Faith and it's not hard to stabilize after that

Enhance Sword is basically afk until turn 6

[blissful olive]

lose late game no matter what i fear

cause afk haven needs a lot of time

seems promising but i bet u im actually in a bad position

yeah i had a feeling lol

[umbral seal]

Never seen a Crest Haven list run Vira.

[blissful olive]

trying her for shits n giggles i need filler anyways since i have no sofina

damn milteo sucks i guess

[umbral seal]

Sofina isn't in Crest either. It seems like you're trying to run a mix of amulet, crest & ward when it makes more sense to run 2/3

[blissful olive]

nah

its just crest

sofina is just a good card in general

[umbral seal]

Sofina is not bad but she literally does not belong in the good version of crest, lol.

Prostrating Coward, however

That is a good card.

[blissful olive]

lets see what our over lords are doing

oh jesus

[umbral seal]

I've seen a few beyond lists for Haven. I did not see Sofina in any of them

[blissful olive]

this looks mad whack

[umbral seal]

I don't agree with the ratios but this is closer to what you should be doing. No Unholy Water is a mistake, though.

You could actually cut serene sanctuary entirely because of holy scripture

And run unholy water instead

Any version of Crest Haven is wack because it's the definition of an attrition deck.

[blissful olive]

i wonder if havens gonna get worse next set lol

or keep playing into the afk deck

[umbral seal]

Wrong link.

This is what Rikka runs, and he hit Beyond on every class.

[blissful olive]

idk about the skullfane

if u have all ur amulet followers it can work out

[umbral seal]

I still think no unholy water is wrong, though. He runs Skullfane to pop scripture and coward, probably. Since you only have sublime to pop it.

This list is more correct than the one you linked, because coward needs to be at 3 copies

It's very good for stabilizing.

Coward should not be a 1-of.

[blissful olive]

bro isnt running all the crests i see

[umbral seal]

Notably, no Viras nor Sofinas

[umbral seal]

I mean, you don't need the 0/4 guy

Pretty sure that's the only one missing?

[blissful olive]

y

[umbral seal]

And lyanthoth occupies a slot

[red plover]

you only have 4 crest slots anyway

[blissful olive]

oh right the dragon is a fake crest

[umbral seal]

Tbh, not all Crest Havens run lyanthoth

Some hate it. Some like it just to have free benison earlier

One guy actually played lyanthoth to destroy my fan

[red plover]

using the 4 cost to pop enemy amulets is pretty funny too

[blissful olive]

ngl

maybe haven is F tier after all

[umbral seal]

I don't like 3 benison lists, personally but I'm not a haven player

[blissful olive]

i dont even think the card should work the way it does either

ima cut to 2

yo lowkey

i wonder if a bit down the road they add a whole new craft

like when sv1 got portal

milteo turn 0 otk

[blissful olive]

ok milteo is a bad idea for trials

2 much rng

[mystic tartan]

Evo forest nerfed kek

[blissful olive]

oh wow

no more board damage

[umbral seal]

This is actually a very significant nerf, because it made it way too easy for Forest to clear the board for Sandy after dealing with Althenia.

The lyanthoth buff does not help Amulet Haven. Conserving evos was not really the problem. The problem is that she costs 9 fucking pp. Buffing her to 8 would've done the same thing but in a better way

Since the earlier you can play her, the less time you have to spend saving evos

[mystic tartan]

Lyanthoth gonna be on ward Haven now with Jeanne buffed too

[blissful olive]

not needing to evo lyan is pretty good ya

[umbral seal]

The problem is that she still comes online too late.

Sure, you can now dump evos more freely and not have to worry about lyanthoth late-game but I would've preferred a cost reduction.

[umbral seal]

I don't think Ward Haven can afford to run lyanthoth. I also forgot the Jeanne buff is insane for Ward Haven

Going second, you can coin out Wilbert, coin Aether and still have Jeanne follow up the turn after if you don't full clear

[mystic tartan]

Yeah u can combo Jeanne and aether kek

[umbral seal]

Before, you'd have to wait a turn if you coined aether

Now you don't

Also, I have 3 animated sathanid's

Always invest early

[mystic tartan]

Idk if i have 3 of it kek

Nvm i have

[blissful olive]

im surprised they even changing shit

but its welcome ig

we still got a month for new set

[umbral seal]

To be honest, I'm somewhat not surprised. Cygames noticed that people peace the fuck out during month 2 (myself included) and shaking up the meta is a good way to keep people engaged

No one wants the same exact meta for 2 months in a row

[mystic tartan]

yeah now Ward Haven gonna be played

more

[blissful olive]

meta wont be changed honestly

still gonna see same everything

[umbral seal]

Wrong. Odd Haven is definitely coming back with the Jeanne buff.

It's been non-existent since the start of this set.

[blissful olive]

odd haven?

[umbral seal]

You must really not play the game to not know what Odd Haven is, lol.

It's a deck based around Kukishiro, a legendary that released last set.

[blissful olive]

oh that shit

just say that then aint no1 calling that odd haven lol

[umbral seal]

...that's literally what everyone calls it.

You really have the dumbest takes imaginable. A simple google search would save you time here.

[blissful olive]

none of yall have or any of the fellas i watch saying that

[umbral seal]

Yeah, we have. They have. What else would people be calling it?

[blissful olive]

literally anything it doesnt matter lol

its basically just ward

[umbral seal]

...this is how I know you're lying, lol. "literally anything", no doofus. It's been called Odd Haven. It's not even remotely similar to Ward.

[blissful olive]

pretty close

[umbral seal]

The deck has deck building restrictions specifically because of how Kukishiro works.

[blissful olive]

a the same fellas are in there

[umbral seal]

You look at that and think it's the same as Ward Haven?

[blissful olive]

im saying it runs a good number of wards

[umbral seal]

All Haven decks run a good amount of wards

This would be like saying Crest Haven is Ward Haven for the same reason

Which is fucking stupid

[blissful olive]

lowkey tho u really think this is gonna pop off?

it wasnt even that good back then

[umbral seal]

Crest Haven actually runs Wilbert, which would be a better argument

But it's still idiotic

[blissful olive]

wilbert is a perma crest he has 2 much value

[umbral seal]

It was tier 2 for the entirety of the last set. Tier 2 is not bad. It's just flawed.

Jeanne going from 8 to 7 will make Odd Haven return but the Jeanne buff benefits Ward Haven more

So you'll see Ward Haven significantly more

[blissful olive]

if jeanne going to 7 is all they really getting tho it will be playable sure but it wont be anything crazy

like ur not popping lyans effect in this deck

[mystic tartan]

lyan is whatever dude

[blissful olive]

yeah im only mentioning cause it was also changed

[umbral seal]

It will be similar to a Ward Haven high roll of having coin Aether into coin Jeanne. Instead, it would be coin Kukishiro into coin Jeanne.

I think the ward haven curve is better

Since it's harder to remove that board

[blissful olive]

aether boards can be cancer depending what ur running yeah

usually billy does it for me

[unkempt lava]

The nerfs are huge

Holy shit

[unkempt lava]

Jeane in odd is pretty good now

[blissful olive]

she also lowkey deals with forest quite well

[red plover]

jeanne buff one month before she vanishes

[blissful olive]

insane work

yeah i wont touch unlimited honestly

unless theres like extra packs and shit i can get

patch is up tho wonder if event is too

ah cygames servers never change

o ye free vials cuz nerfs

they didnt start it yet huh

maybe 2 nite then figured be up with patch

[umbral seal]

Wild that the patch isn't live yet

[blissful olive]

it is

nerfs are at least

[umbral seal]

Top 1k rewards

[blissful olive]

thats kinda rough

[umbral seal]

Not really. I don't even need the resources besides seer's globes

Going to take a lot to keep my dragon decks fully animated after rotation

[blissful olive]

its just cygames being werid

horse game hand out hundreds of dollars of free shit for vibes

card game = fuck you

[umbral seal]

That game also has a higher entry fee

[blissful olive]

it depends

gacha is weird

its harder to be f2p in SV than horse thats for sure

[umbral seal]

Card acquisition in SV is highly dependent on how much you play and when you started. I am not f2p because I like cosmetics but I'm pretty sure both @mystic tartan and @sick oasis are.

[blissful olive]

if u started both now it would be harder in sv

[mystic tartan]

i mean thats the same with other gacha shit

[blissful olive]

1 character or card ( whichever u prefer ) vs going through 6 sets of cards hoping you get what u need

it aint even close

[mystic tartan]

? im talking about the account of course

progression

like if u start HSR rn

[blissful olive]

not to mention the rule of 4 for dusting cards in WB shit is cancer for new players

[red plover]

with gacha u cant just craft the meta card that you need though

you need to wait for the banner and save

[mystic tartan]

aint no way u beating MoC

[blissful olive]

thats besides the point

[red plover]

in sv you can just craft it when you have enough vials

[mystic tartan]

unless u built ur shit for like 6-7 months

[blissful olive]

whats moc ?

[mystic tartan]

the late game shit

[blissful olive]

in horse?

[mystic tartan]

like genshin abyss

nah hsr

[blissful olive]

oh

i mean sure isnt that the mutli team shit or w/e

abyss but turn based?

[mystic tartan]

ye

i mean u can just craft Milteo and play fuck ton of SVWB

milteo is cheap af

f2p need to actually play the game

i played since the start and i still has 250k vials

[blissful olive]

yeah thats the only reason im still playing now

[mystic tartan]

i never top up

[red plover]

it also depends on how many decks you want to play

[mystic tartan]

i build so many decks including fennie

[blissful olive]

like if i quit and came back the amount of money id need to spend would be insane

[red plover]

you can just stick to one class and never worry about vials forever

[mystic tartan]

truee

[blissful olive]

you can but man that sounds depressing lmao

[mystic tartan]

ur f2p

[blissful olive]

im fake f2p

[mystic tartan]

deal with it

[umbral seal]

Like, Nevia was downplaying the top 1k rewards but that shit adds up

[blissful olive]

nah its pretty poor anyway u look at it

[umbral seal]

That and hitting gm3 regularly

[blissful olive]

all that work for 1 legendary worth of vials

[umbral seal]

Helps a lot with card acquisition

[mystic tartan]

its okay

its not bad

not good either

[umbral seal]

Seer's Globes can also be converted to vials unless you literally do not have 3x of any legendary

[blissful olive]

how so

[umbral seal]

10 card packs is another guaranteed legendary

[blissful olive]

or do u mean just animate a card n dust it

[umbral seal]

You answered your own question

[blissful olive]

yikes

[umbral seal]

That's what most f2ps do with globes

And it does add up

[blissful olive]

im sure it does but i dont do that lol

if i was insanely desperate sure

i dont try to animate a whole deck but i do it for certain cards i rly like

oh battle dungeon soft reset now has some decent kandima sleeves

[blissful olive]

lol

bro just saw the board and said fuck it

oh just noticed we stayed GM

[blissful olive]

bruh

well haven unplayable for now unless u only wanna run mirrors lol

[blissful olive]

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haven tier 1

just needed some help from rune

[umbral seal]

Enchroached World, I'm guessing

[red plover]

also works with a single egg

[blissful olive]

true

ima put 2 in for shits and giggles

game seems fucked today

crashing on boot up after i hit start

[fading echo]

outplayed this dude playing the new anti haven rune

[umbral seal]

Lynkal's problem is that she's useless if she can't suicide

It's why Dragon also cooks that deck

The deck also has no aggro option since that's in direct conflict with the way the deck works.

[umbral seal]

Wife.

I present, intimidate dragon.

[mystic tartan]

enhance sword nightmare

[blissful olive]

are you insane dood

i knew ud come around

dragon nothing without the nanny

[umbral seal]

Nanny decks need to run Marion and I don't think she fits in discard

[blissful olive]

who the fuck is marion

lol

[umbral seal]

Classic card game player can't read cards

[blissful olive]

ew that guy he ass

[umbral seal]

Nope. He helps with snowballing the little dragon.

[blissful olive]

just remember any win u get with that deck is thanks to me

[umbral seal]

It's not, though. You tried putting nanny in discard, which is incorrect

Not to mention, I've played decks with nanny as early as Heirs

You barely play dragon in comparison to me

[blissful olive]

as the creator of the nanny verse

your welcome

[mystic tartan]

bruh egg is strong

[fading echo]

i actually can make that deck with just 1 azurifrit instead of 2

pretty funny

[umbral seal]

2 is needed with the surge of ward havens

[fading echo]

eh i guess i can make one extra

i'd hate to play that deck and lose to aether board

[mystic tartan]

alright destru portal is just it

its good against every shit

the evo forest nerf really hurts them lol

[mystic tartan]

alright xtal rune is just too much for eg

the heal

[blissful olive]

[blissful olive]

oh

just check the site JP spreading propaganda

tier 1 apparently

[sick oasis]

long time no shadoba

anything good this patch?

[blissful olive]

they nerfed forest and made jeane cost 7 now

but mostly things pre much the same deal

[sick oasis]

oh guess i'm still playing xtal rune

[blissful olive]

man

dragon gonna lose forte soon thats actually so bad for them lol

[blissful olive]

going to bed when i lose

now that i say that im 100% losing next game

[umbral seal]

Not convinced that Odd is tier 1 but it does have a good match-up into milteo, which is still tier 1

[blissful olive]

not anymore !

according to our JP over lords milteo is cooked!

[umbral seal]

So, milteo loses to Ward Haven. Losing to Odd Haven is literally rng (fox spawns)

It doesn't lose to Crest without a well timed wilbert

Personally, I think Enhance is actually tier 1 now because the returning slash nerf hurts loot's early game tempo a lot

And the evo forest match up is even more favorable without sathanid's board clearing

[blissful olive]

swords life gain is so gay

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1051298416845672508.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

still won at least but fuck noel and his band of

lol

yeah sword cant deal with this no1 runs the targeted removal

[umbral seal]

Sword runs strategist. That's about it

Unless they have all 3 in their top 15, they're cooked

[blissful olive]

yeah idk if normal sword does different but

theres almost no way to clear a big body intimidate

same with chess rune

haven abyss and spellbost tho easily

[umbral seal]

Crystal can potentially have a high powered wind blast but it's less likely to happen compared to spellboost

Spellboost has a lot of ways to clear intimidates but they lack healing

[blissful olive]

chess like needs to heal its the only thing keeping them in the game or u just run them over

so not being able to drain fucks them

why i always try to end with nothing on board if im playing milteo

[umbral seal]

Been seeing a fuck ton of Odd Havens today. Likely tier 1.

[mystic tartan]

yeah im hoping the rise of sword next set

well except loot

[umbral seal]

Sword has had a tier 1 deck literally every set. It's an extremely priveleged craft.

If it is bottom tier next set, it would deserve it.

[red plover]

was about to say

[mystic tartan]

nah

[red plover]

when wasnt it on the rise

[mystic tartan]

it doesnt deserve it

[umbral seal]

Yeah, it does.

[mystic tartan]

nah

i play sword

[red plover]

dogs tier 0

[mystic tartan]

i deserve tier 1

Enhance really sad rn

lose to Egg,lose to Milteo,lose to Aggro,lose to Crest

[umbral seal]

That was already the case in month 1, tbh

It also loses to Odd Haven

[mystic tartan]

yeah fuck Jeanne

[umbral seal]

I'm not sure if there's a Haven deck that Enhance is good against

[mystic tartan]

buff

[umbral seal]

Maybe amulet

[mystic tartan]

yeah amulet its good

ward is 50/50 if u somehow survive but it was before jeanne buff

[umbral seal]

The biggest reason to play Enhance was to counter Evo Forest but I legit have not seen a single Forest player today

Barely any since the patch went live

[mystic tartan]

so im just chilling this patch

[red plover]

only forest I saw was doing some storm fairy thing instead

[blissful olive]

um

what

[blissful olive]

kinda fun

[blissful olive]

1 thing id change from ur uhh

dragon list there is prob odin

just cause how much haven is popping up now

[umbral seal]

I already made that adjustment, actually

[blissful olive]

yeah its just wilbert is that much of a dickhead to block aggro lol

[umbral seal]

Too much Haven right now

[blissful olive]

yerp

[blissful olive]

oh u added gene huh

[umbral seal]

Also animated the nanny's, even though she's rotating

[blissful olive]

the gold ones are dime a dozen i have a bunch as well

[umbral seal]

Added dragonewt because fate isn't enough card draw and it's currently the best draw option for dragon

[blissful olive]

i think dragons power is gonna drop drastically next set tho

no forte is huge

[umbral seal]

There are several forte re-prints in SV1, it'll be fine.

[blissful olive]

yeah same with alberto

[umbral seal]

Whether those re-prints happen in the very next set, is an entirely different question

Maybe, maybe not.

Albert didn't exist in SV1 until set 3, and was actually considered low tier for awhile

https://shadowverse-portal.com/card/701241010?lang=en

I remember most Sword decks being midrange ones revolving around this chick

[blissful olive]

have you seen this man!?

oh you cut marion for newts huh

[umbral seal]

Yeah. I couldn't combo him with nanny in enough games

And late game, he can only combo with forte

Or eyfa if you run her

[blissful olive]

my thing with newt is her stats honestly

3 cost for 2 power is really weak and cant really trade into anything when majoirty of shit on the board has 3 toughness now days

[umbral seal]

Her stats are perfectly fine. Eudie, as a lgendary, is a 3/3 that draws 1. She sees a lot of play still.

Giving a unit that draws two, high stats, is bad card design.

[blissful olive]

i mean yeah eudie is amazing

[mystic tartan]

fucking ass hand

[blissful olive]

welcome to my world

[umbral seal]

Ordine playing portal is hilarious.

Next, we'll see him on haven

Crest, even

[mystic tartan]

the only craft i refuse to play is Abyss

[umbral seal]

Final build.

Adjusted for all the haven pickers.

[blissful olive]

https://x.com/Chiffo_Shadow/status/2039055403049525433/photo/2

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X · Mar 31, 2026, 7:01 PM

what

i dont believe it lol

[umbral seal]

April Fools for sure

I mean, the signs are everywhere. 401 win streak

[blissful olive]

yeah lol

[umbral seal]

Shit's way too easy this month.

[blissful olive]

i wanna see u 2500

make the april fools real

[umbral seal]

lol

The most CR anyone's ever gotten is around 2300 CR

And it's very hard to even do that. Pretty sure less than 10 people were 2300+ before the end of last month

[unkempt lava]

Devs have to make new ramp cards to replace the 3/3 evolve +1 pp and dragonsign right?

[umbral seal]

Dragonsign is basic, it's not rotating

Liu Feng is rotating. They should make a new ramp card to replace it, but that's not a guarantee

[blissful olive]

if they dont give us a replacement ramp or forte etc dragon could very easily shit the bed i feel

ngl it kinda feels like this current set went by very quickly

[umbral seal]

Every craft is losing a lot. We'll see what everyone is getting before we starting ringing any alarm bells.

[blissful olive]

my main hope is a new abyss boss monster

and i want earth to make a come back

lowkey they need a boss monster also

[umbral seal]

Neither of those things are happening.

[blissful olive]

hmm idk

earth should

the dirt package isnt even bad right now it just didnt get anything new

[umbral seal]

Earth Rite still has Lilanthim, so they're not getting a new "boss monster".

[blissful olive]

yeah shes kind of decent but shes not really scary either

abyss just has nothing in terms of boss monsters rn

[umbral seal]

The main thing ER loses from classic is Penelope & Edelweiss

[blissful olive]

edel is actually insane

[umbral seal]

Abyss has Armes. No matter how shit you think he is, they're not getting a new one and even if they did, you wouldn't be satisified

At most, they're getting a midrange abyss replacement since Cerb is rotating

[blissful olive]

cerb and aragavy will be biggest hit

and armes is just bad as a boss hes the worst

he needs to live a full turn and you also need to not die

[unkempt lava]

Am i a dumbass or is amulet haven high skill level?

[mystic tartan]

it is high lol

well u need luck too

[blissful olive]

amulet haven is just bad yes compared to every other version

well in general as well it blows ass

[red plover]

pretty much all haven decks arent easy to play except for ward

[blissful olive]

odd is pretty straight forward id say

but ward is just yeah hope they cant clear aether

[blissful olive]

its up to me i fear lmao

[mystic tartan]

thats why u join our guild

[blissful olive]

https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-blue-ranger-just-leave-it-to-me-leave-it-to-me-ill-handle-this-gif-13045652500110081924

[umbral seal]

He'll refuse to join as long as it's my guild

[mystic tartan]

[blissful olive]

i play hella causal mid season so id only be doing dailies really

so no lol

[umbral seal]

The fact that you still think my guild has no casuals is hilarious

I've already said this more than once

But as usual, you can't read

[blissful olive]

nah im not into making qoutas or w/e i just wanna log on do dailies n not have 2 play a lot

like rn im lowkey in cooldown just waiting for BF + new set

[umbral seal]

"Quotas"

Suit yourself, lil' homie

[blissful olive]

nah u moving different

[umbral seal]

No one is obligated to play as much as I do, as you can clearly see

Or are you blind in addition to being unable to read?

[blissful olive]

change the name to something that isnt gay i'll join rn

[umbral seal]

"Malevolent" is not changing. I would be doing you a favor by accepting you, not the other way around.

[blissful olive]

nah that aint no favor sis

[umbral seal]

Coming for that #1

[blissful olive]

lowkey cooking with sword today

[mystic tartan]

crystal rune might be the best tier 1 deck rn

[blissful olive]

that deck MIGHT be dead in 3 weeks tho

depends if it gets any support

[mystic tartan]

im talking about now

u doubter

[blissful olive]

i mean sure

[mystic tartan]

i hope loot got a bit

im missing playing it

[blissful olive]

loot can die

its been S tier for 500 years

[mystic tartan]

with all the evo abyss running around

i like loot

[blissful olive]

[umbral seal]

Evo Abyss doesn't exist at high cr. I only see it when I play amulet at 1500

[mystic tartan]

lol i meet alot

when i play enhance

around 1800+

[umbral seal]

Above 1850? That's cap imo

[mystic tartan]

its true

[umbral seal]

Shit is tier 3 at best

[mystic tartan]

i somehow got it more than milteo

cus people probably bored

its already 2nd month anyway

i do rather play against evo than milteo

milteo is just eww

hate those 2 spell

and the ghost

[blissful olive]

evo abyss is still ass

i think the decks fun but it aint that good

well we got BF soon right at least

[umbral seal]

Yeah, because you're playing a deck that only feasted on evo forest

Enhance Sword is the most fraudulent deck this set imo

[mystic tartan]

Loot is just awful if u bricked ur shit
And now with nerfed too

[blissful olive]

whats nerfed wdym

[mystic tartan]

the slash

its now 2pp

[blissful olive]

oh that

tbh that card has insane value for 1 mana lol

[mystic tartan]

yeah

[blissful olive]

its still good at 2

[mystic tartan]

its very good that enhance use it too

honestly loot need more draw shit

one of the weakness

i miss tablet

[blissful olive]

at least abyss got fake pot of greed now lol

[umbral seal]

No, aggro decks shouldn't have good draw engines. This is exactly why tablet got nerfed

It gave loot insane consistency

[mystic tartan]

just gimme a good Lego draw sword like bibati

Now we cooking

[umbral seal]

They have other draw options. Splendor and Amelia. Are they as good as bibatii? Obviously not.

Milteo doesn't even have draw outside of WoG and Bibatii (some lists run screaming & loathing)

[mystic tartan]

Yeah thats why i need bibati

On sword

3pp with 1pp draw 2 is retarded

[umbral seal]

Bibatii just needs a higher necro cost imo

I would nerf it from 4 to 6

Wouldn't change anything else

Milteo is annoying because they can handle counter aggression just as well as dishing out aggression

Bibatii is a large part of why

Loot Sword was annoying for the same reason (returning slash & congregant)

[umbral seal]

@mystic tartan Funny, as soon as you mentioned evo abyss, I'm also seeing them in high CR now

Someone must've done well with it recently.

[mystic tartan]

Yeah they trying it out

[unkempt lava]

gulp. guild leader #1

the decks i invested are this set are shit. Forest got nerfed and Haven amulet sucks

[umbral seal]

Like I already told Nevia, I'm very lenient on activity.

Although, if it's getting close to 2 months, I then start to wonder if a fella is actually going to log on

[umbral seal]

Evo Forest is still good. It's just not tier 1. There's also tempo forest lists that run Althenia, who are in Beyond.

There are also amulet haven lists that hit Beyond, even though amulet haven is not the best version of Haven

[mystic tartan]

skullfane carrying

kek

[umbral seal]

Pretty much. That deck honestly needs more ways to break amulets.

[blissful olive]

amulet will be s tier next patch trust

[umbral seal]

It's possible. Evo Forest, and Forest in general, was in a worse state in month 1 of set 5 than haven was last month.

[blissful olive]

insane value

[blissful olive]

up to like 50k vials and 40k gold can def make a bunch of decks next set

[unkempt lava]

Nice job

How many vials might I get from set 1?

With rotation and all of that?

[umbral seal]

Zero.

You're not getting compensated just because rotation is happening, lol.

[blissful olive]

i wish

[umbral seal]

I expect the playerbase to dwindle further with rotation

Because you won't be able to fully vial Legends Rise

For people who don't care about unlimited

[blissful olive]

yeah like the only reason i can still play w.o dropping hella money

is cause i kept up on the game somewhat dailies and etc saving gold for 2 months

[blissful olive]

lowkey they should remove the restriction of 3 copies to vial upon rotation for X set

a lot of people dont give a fuck about unlimited

[umbral seal]

We'll see.

[blissful olive]

i mean they wont theres no way

but they should

[umbral seal]

It's possible. Very unlikely, though.

I also thought they would not hotfix Grandeur, nor have a sizeable balance patch in the first month.

The odds are low, but not zero.

[umbral seal]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/1shxrov/cr_spreads_top_100_sv_labo_41026/

Nevia will see this and still ask for Abyss buffs

Abyss also was also pretty close to having the highest CR average last month as well. Between Rune, Abyss & Forest.

[mystic tartan]

Yeah Abyss is just it rn

[umbral seal]

[blissful olive]

w daily pack

[blissful olive]

pretty good for shitty evo abyss

[blissful olive]

PAID SHUFFLER

[umbral seal]

Enhance is the most popular tier 2 deck I've ever seen. Scrub-craft.

[mystic tartan]

cus it feels good

4-0 weekly with it

2 dragon too

luckily they ass

[umbral seal]

Funnily enough, the adaptation I've seen on ladder is evo sword with Yid

Zirconia is one thing Milteo can't deal with on curve unless they run the Aragavy tech

[umbral seal]

I might try it, actually.

[mystic tartan]

i did try

meet an evo abyss

[umbral seal]

Enhance doesn't exactly beat evo abyss either. You have to otk them but you also have no answer for Vas without Unkei (or Odin)

[mystic tartan]

if they dont have Vas usually u win or if u spam follower that they cant clear

[umbral seal]

Kinda have to hope they don't have multiple belial's & ginsetsu's. At the very least, you have a one card answer to Armes

[blissful olive]

lowkey they dont need an answer 2 armes

armes is already like you already ahead when u drop it or u desperate and this is ur only way out

in which case albert comes down and you dead anyways

[mystic tartan]

its funny that armes is basically useless if u already spend ur sevos

[umbral seal]

Pretty much, but he's still useful in the deck.

It's the hardest handcheck in the game

[mystic tartan]

he's a beast in take two

[blissful olive]

maybe

[mystic tartan]

[blissful olive]

like u can remove fella without trying long as u have a sevo or just random removal

[umbral seal]

random removal

[blissful olive]

yes

thats how u fake target him

[umbral seal]

Uh, no. The removal needs to be pretty specific. If you mean random targeting, that's just Torrent of Despair. Anything else requires that + an additional card

And that additional card usually requires an sevo

[blissful olive]

theres a bunch of random damage spells that can cover it with sevo

[umbral seal]

So even in take two, he gains value

And draft formats are almost always about maximizing value

[blissful olive]

in t2 hes good yeah cause fellas not really prepared for that usually

[mystic tartan]

also there is that silver follower

that reanimate him

abyss and dragon is the best on take two

[blissful olive]

give him storm he needs it

✊

[umbral seal]

The most they would ever do is print a card that could give him storm.

https://shadowverse.fandom.com/wiki/Waltz,_Moonlight_Wolf-King

https://shadowverse.fandom.com/wiki/Laura,_Enraged_Commander

Similar to how you could use that version of Laura to give Waltz storm, which turns into 27 damage w/ evo.

And even then, that's still pretty slow, albeit, a better win-con than Belial.

[blissful olive]

lowkey all next set for abyss need is blood wolf

run it

[umbral seal]

Uh, no. Milteo, and aggro abyss in general, does not need further assistance.

[blissful olive]

damn u hating

[umbral seal]

I analyze things objectively instead of making outrageous requests.

The only archetype that actually needs help is midrange abyss.

[blissful olive]

lowkey midrange abyss is basically evo rn

[umbral seal]

Even evo abyss has found its place in high CR due to cooking certain match-ups (ward haven)

[umbral seal]

These two decks do not operate the same nor share the same cards.

[blissful olive]

the mid range big boys are like

aragavy and cerb and they dont exist in 2 weeks

[umbral seal]

Like I mentioned awhile ago, what abyss actually needs is more board resilience.

https://shadowverse.fandom.com/wiki/Prince_Catacomb

More cards like that would've helped midrange abyss a lot. Along with probably buffing Cerb to 7, to be more comparable to Eachtar

https://shadowverse.fandom.com/wiki/Demonlord_Eachtar

[blissful olive]

lowkey abyss needs a slam the dick on the table card everyone else has one

armes is a poor attempt at that

i remember eachtar he was fun

[umbral seal]

Takes like this is why you aren't in charge of designing anything. Every class does not need a hard handcheck or a "boss monster", as you like to put it.

Realistically speaking, Haven has zero and yet they have 3 decks that see consistent play in Beyond right now.

[blissful olive]

not having a boss monster is a debuff

like a card u know can drop down later that u needa be wary of right now deadass thats basically billy atp

haven has the fairy fucker

whatever the 9 cost is called thats their boss monster but it only works in 1 deck marwyn is also another contender

[umbral seal]

When you say "boss monster", the implication is a card that effectively wins you the game if unanswered or if you don't kill the opponent swiftly. Lyanthoth would qualify. Maywynn would not.

And lyanthoth was on par with being as bad as Armes until she got ward + no evo req.

[blissful olive]

nah a boss monster is just like something thats really up there

the term comes from ygo

like bryon is like 3k atk can nuke shit and has an omni negate shes not the main card of the deck but thats a boss monster

[umbral seal]

[[Brionac]]

[limpid pecan]

No card found for “Brionac”

[umbral seal]

[[Bryon]]

[limpid pecan]

No card found for “Bryon”

[umbral seal]

[[Brron]]

[limpid pecan]

No card found for “Brron”

[blissful olive]

nah i forgot the name but thats what she do

[umbral seal]

Bruh.

[blissful olive]

brionic is another one that fella got banned

found it

i dont remember names much anymore just what shit does

yeah i agree put this in abyss frfr

[umbral seal]

[[Baronne de Fleur]]

[limpid pecan]

No card found for “Baronne de Fleur”

[umbral seal]

Dumb bot.

[blissful olive]

maybe no ygo

[red plover]

wrong bot

[blissful olive]

zamn

[umbral seal]

But yeah, that card's pretty good

[umbral seal]

I know double brackets works for magic. Is there a different one for yugioh?

[red plover]

I think its just single brackets

[umbral seal]

[[Counterspell]]

[limpid pecan]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/114/counterspell

Counterspell <:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target spell.

[red plover]

[Baronne de Fleur]

[fading plinth]

Baronne de Fleur

WIND • Level: 10
[ Warrior / Synchro / Effect ]

ATK 3000 / DEF 2400

Effect

1 Tuner + 1+ non-Tuner monsters
Once per turn: You can target 1 card on the field; destroy it. Once while face-up on the field, when a card or effect is activated (Quick Effect): You can negate the activation, and if you do, destroy that card. You can only use the previous effect of "Baronne de Fleur" once per turn. Once per turn, during the Standby Phase: You can target 1 Level 9 or lower monster in your GY; return this card to the Extra Deck, and if you do, Special Summon that monster.

F/L Status: Forbidden (TCG), Unlimited (OCG/MD)

[umbral seal]

Ah, there we go

[blissful olive]

{kuriboh}

[kuriboh]

[fading plinth]

Kuriboh

DARK • Level: 1
[ Fiend / Effect ]

ATK 300 / DEF 200

Effect

During damage calculation, if your opponent's monster attacks (Quick Effect): You can discard this card; you take no battle damage from that battle.

F/L Status: Unlimited (TCG/OCG/MD)

[blissful olive]

aha

[umbral seal]

I'm stagnating

I basically have to pray to not run into portal.

Evo & eggs cook any version of dragon, except Fennie, which has worse match-ups against everything else.

@mystic tartan Thoughts?

[blissful olive]

play crest haven

[umbral seal]

No, that's my least favorite kind of control deck.

[blissful olive]

well

you dont seem like your in control

[umbral seal]

I'd rather play evo abyss.

[mystic tartan]

[umbral seal]

Yeah, praying for good match-ups is about all I can do.

Portal is literally the only thing I never want to see.

I have positive winrates against everything else

[blissful olive]

evo abyss is fun but ass

[umbral seal]

If it was ass, no one above 1850 would be playing it

[blissful olive]

eh thats not true

[umbral seal]

It has good match-ups, but it's not tier 1.

[blissful olive]

some people just like a certain deck whether its up there or not

[umbral seal]

People don't play decks that consistently lose. You tried making a similar argument awhile ago about a different deck. Don't remember which one.

[blissful olive]

prob abyss still

[umbral seal]

People play what's effective, depending on what they're facing, and evo abyss has good match-ups

[blissful olive]

but yeah if u really like a deck u will play it most likely

[umbral seal]

Not to mention, if you play something you like and it was ass, you wouldn't be 1850+ in the first place

Of course, you could climb with Milteo and occassionally swap to evo abyss but this would not reap great results unless you were experienced with piloting both

[blissful olive]

i feel like you could put tech in to make it viable

not the best but you could run it

[umbral seal]

It's already viable. The only tech that people added recently was adding Vaseraga and cutting Nehan.

This was a development that did not happen until this set.

[blissful olive]

im speaking in general

in evo abyss case its a good deck until late game

cause it has no ender

[umbral seal]

Anecdotally, I faced DiS "sharp___" (can't spell out his full name because of the chat filter). He literally wrote a guide on spellboost rune, says it's his favorite deck and yet even that guy swapped over to Crystal Rune when I faced him on ladder

The entirety of Rune players in Beyond are crystal.

[umbral seal]

No, it has enders. The problem is that the win con needs to be in your hand by the time you start evolving.

[blissful olive]

the problem with billy tho u need 4 turns

[umbral seal]

Otherwise, you have to rely on either Vaseraga hitting the face multiple times, Sandy lethal or your opponent failing the Armes handcheck

[blissful olive]

u gotta be on the god roll for that shit or be playing a mad slow deck like haven or forest

u can pop another 1 down to sevo too sure but hes not fast by any means

[umbral seal]

Forest is not a slow deck. That's a common misconception.

Forest can out-tempo you very easily.

[blissful olive]

well on evo vs forest i havent had problems really

cause their turn 8 doesnt do shit to abyss lowkey

[umbral seal]

Because they have no answer to Vas, Vas can absorb Sandalphon shots and you have a 1 card answer to Althenia

[blissful olive]

idk if this shit even has vas lemme see what i grabbed

[umbral seal]

Every high CR list I've run into runs Vaseraga

Not running him is a mistake

[blissful olive]

i could cut 1 armes and gin for 2 vas ig

i just grabbed this 1 off that website

i run vas in mine

[umbral seal]

Most lists I've seen also only run 2 deathslash. Personally, I like running 3

Never know when you'll run into a dragon player

[blissful olive]

i prefer 3 u have like

so many easy fodder creatures u can blow it on

[umbral seal]

I forget how I built my list.

[blissful olive]

lowkey best thing we got in a while

[umbral seal]

Nothing low-key about it

I'm still a Nehan believer, which is why I run shadowcrypt

Also gives you more burst damage

Definitely less healing than the lists that run ginsetsu & gil

[blissful olive]

hes good yeah if u can set up crypt

[umbral seal]

lol Crystal Rune has no answer to Armes

They basically need sagelight aoe + calga sevo

Actually, that's still only 12

So they need 3 cards just to not die

[blissful olive]

their answer is rng

they pop that spell and hope it makes a xtal big enough to run him over with sevo

[umbral seal]

Not only is that extremely unreliable but out of all my games played this set (close to 1k, probably), I've seen depths create a 10+ atk crystal around 5 times.

And it's extremely unlikely unless your faith is well above 20, which it likely wouldn't be if Armes is coined out on curve.

Their best answer is to try to lethal you after Armes but I was at 20 hp when I dropped mine

[blissful olive]

yeah thats why armes honestly isnt that scary in general

so late in the game a lot of the time u can die b4 he gets to atk

[blissful olive]

i need to speak to a manager

[blissful olive]

lol

[umbral seal]

If he had homework time, destroyer sevo would kill it.

[fading echo]

holy topdeck

[blissful olive]

why u got sad music on

[fading echo]

for him

[umbral seal]

Personally, I don't like the spellboost list that runs no d-climb

It assumes you won't run into late-game decks on ladder, which is just not true.

Either way, spellboost in general is not better than crystal, and the beyond rankings prove that

[blissful olive]

fellas should always slip the D in

with 1 copy of satan

[umbral seal]

Gonna be gone in a few weeks, might as well play it as much as you can now

[blissful olive]

ye i dont see unlimited being very popular either

[blissful olive]

ah BF is on friday

[mystic tartan]

just got triple zooey

fak

[blissful olive]

W

[mystic tartan]

actually fun battlefest

[blissful olive]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-lizard-lizard-scream-lizard-scream-tom-lizard-gif-2552388425461261498

[umbral seal]

Not worth climbing above 2k CR

[blissful olive]

u get 8 or so per win

but i seen u lose like 15 on loss or was that something else

[umbral seal]

I'd only lose 15 if I was facing someone of a similar rating

Most people aren't above 2k, so I'd be losing about 20

[blissful olive]

i got armes from chest and had laura in hand lol

[blissful olive]

lol

laura is goated for this event

[mystic tartan]

https://x.com/shadowversegame/status/2045336520211722305

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X · Apr 18, 2026, 3:00 AM

anathema theme

[blissful olive]

im literally the best player on the planet

[umbral seal]

[blissful olive]

clear that you bitch

[blissful olive]

1 more game n im done

wish they did this shit more

[umbral seal]

No, they shouldn't. People would then complain it's being overdone, and you'd be the first complaint.

The current frequency is fine, since it keeps the event a novelty, as it should be.

[blissful olive]

just as an example if they did a fest once a month nobody would complain

without the cards just quirky mechanics this fest was literally momir format from magic

or simply when they do them let them run longer than 2 days with more than 2k points of stuff

[umbral seal]

The fest replaces the weekly tournament and we already lose the first week of a new set with no tournament

So, once again, no.

[blissful olive]

nobody would complain

BUT

the fact we lose tourney makes no sense 2 me

im guessing spaghetti code wont let em do both

[umbral seal]

It's not a coding issue. They just don't want to.

[blissful olive]

thats whack

cuz they already dont launch new sets with an event

lobby tourney week of would be a lot better cuz fellas still figuring out what to make of things

[mystic tartan]

joining the beyondo gank

[blissful olive]

man loves his enhance

[red plover]

oh, didnt realize I had to participate in the battle fest to get the alt art and not just visit

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https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-whats-wrong-with-you-annoying-stupid-idiot-gif-5631704

[umbral seal]

Cucking yourself by committing to this "take two only" mindset

Your loss, though

[red plover]

not that big of a loss though but also I cant even enjoy take two this season because haven is the worst its ever been, hope the next set will mix things up a bit with the rotation

[umbral seal]

You can play things besides Haven

In fact, if I was spamming take two, I'd try to get 7 wins on everything for the flair

[red plover]

I can but I dont really want to, so instead of trying to force something I just play less or not at all when I dont enjoy it currently

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[red plover]

Id much rather just play sts 2 instead, every loss in that game feels like it was my fault, meanwhile in shadowverse most of the time it just feels like nothing I could have done would have changed the outcome

[umbral seal]

That heavily depends on the deck you're playing (in ranked), but I agree that it's too familiar of a feeling

[red plover]

thats the thing, I never really play the tier 1 decks for haven because I dont really enjoy the playstyle which is my fault I know

or strongest in this case, dont know if any deck can be considered tier one right now

[umbral seal]

Odd Haven is.

It benefits the most from the Jeanne buff

[red plover]

ah yea, never liked that deck, so didnt bother even with the buff

[blissful olive]

shit going away ina week

game might change a lot with set 1 going away

[red plover]

thats what I hope at least

[blissful olive]

yeah this set could mix shit up a lot simply cuz rotation

[mystic tartan]

bruh jeanne farming my ass

[blissful olive]

wut u gonna do when enhance die next week sis

u going back 2 loot ? lol

[mystic tartan]

?

of course the new sword

no way they aint making some shit

[blissful olive]

what if its ass

[mystic tartan]

nah

so far sword no shit

[blissful olive]

u gonna need a albert replacement

or its loot splash i fear

but dont worry i know just the guy

[mystic tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1035012600276197396/1463994240093782169/lac-opens-notepad.gif

[umbral seal]

Worrying about rotation replacements right now is pointless. We'll see when the full set is revealed.

[blissful olive]

dont worry i got u

whatever happens i can put sombrero's on anyone

[blissful olive]

the bang bros