I added twilight dragon because spellboost is a very hard match up
#Shadowverse
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sick oasis
yeah i got my 3rd one yesterday from daily pull
that's why i wanna try this deck now
i'll try it without zooey first
if it gets harder on higher rank i'll spend more vials to get zooey 
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You'll add Zooey once you experience games where you draw no ramp
unkempt lava
Where to yap if this discord actually gets deleted?
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Good question.
Better get used to the in-game chat, maybe? 
But genuinely, I don't know.
We'll cross that bridge when we get there.
mystic tartan
refugees
mystic tartan
yeah
warped granite
Dashy 8 hours of SV 
mystic tartan
shadowversing it up
mystic tartan
ok after this 1 game
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mystic tartan
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Not back to Beyond but I'll just play spellboost until the ladder reset.
mystic tartan
Not back to Beyond but I'll just play spellboost until the ladder reset.
yeah im soon to 100k too
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1800+ is literally just portal and a sprinkle of random shit.
Annoying meta
Still better than Heirs
sick oasis
@mystic tartan a wild jrpg enthusiast appeared in the comments
mystic tartan
i forgot to edit the deck <:ICANT:1039599418208428182>
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Climbing with spellboost is fucking goofy.
Always feels like a contest of who can highroll harder
mystic tartan
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donezo now time to endfield it up
Good game?
mystic tartan
also slow af
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Well, I've heard the factory is a decent portion of the game but not the whole game
Allegedly a 70/30 split between the factory and gameplay, from a comment I've seen on reddit.
mystic tartan
also 1st region is tutorial hell
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Aria buff: SEVO effect changed to a normal evo
Yeah, this game is not lasting long.
mystic tartan
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@mystic tartan remember when you asked if i'll play next season? i guess the answer is now determined
mystic tartan
<@729570331747942480> remember when you asked if i'll play next season? i guess ...
this buff shouldve been a while ago
sick oasis
sick oasis
ah yes the life of a gambler
sick oasis
i wonder what are the new cards for the new set
mystic tartan
i wonder what are the new cards for the new set
1 more month
it will be revealed
honestly just lay low after this wait for next set
they pussy out
not nerfing many on half season
Imari and Oluon should be nerfed
mystic tartan
mystic tartan
also im hoping World of Games to get aura
so Portal cant abuse it
card is cracked on Portal cus it let u draw so much
sick oasis
maybe i'm dented, what would aura do to world of games?
mystic tartan
maybe i'm dented, what would aura do to world of games?
u cant do anything to it
cant be banished,destroyed,selected
red plover
cant be banished,destroyed,selected
with just aura you could still banish and destroy it, you would need "cant be destroyed by abillities" on it as well, like the earth sigils
mystic tartan
with just aura you could still banish and destroy it, you would need "cant be de...
oh earth sigils has that ?
lol
didnt know
i thought its just aura
yeah thats good too
yeah my meaning is make it likeh Eart Sigils
red plover
yea it has the orange bubble from not being able to be destroyed and the aura diamond pattern, it just doesnt say it on the card for some reason 
mystic tartan
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also im hoping World of Games to get aura
Aura wouldn't stop portal from popping it instantly
mystic tartan
yeah i meant like Earth Sigils
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Finally caught a winstreak with this goofy ass deck.
@sick oasis Running a similar list?
sick oasis
<@704927885583974410> Running a similar list?
yeah the only difference is mine have 1 glinelese, 1 seraphic, 3 miranda, and 3 rainbow
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I run 3 seraphics because it allows me to consistently draw over half my deck by turn 10
Which is necessary in order to guarantee cocytus + dclimb
I got inspiration from a different rune player I played against
3 rainbows could just be 3 seraphics instead. The extra draw is better
sick oasis
hmm yeah i noticed too sometimes during turn 8 i run out cards too fast
might try replacing 1 miranda for seraphic
i was considering putting 1 odin
but not worth it
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might try replacing 1 miranda for seraphic
I've had games where I ran out of cards even with 2 seraphics, particularly if I have to dclimb early. Even with 3 mirandas, the deck still dies to early aggression
It's just meant to farm dragon & portal
Can sometimes beat sword, though
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i was considering putting 1 odin
I've seen Odin variants. I think if you're going to run it at all, it should be 2 copies and it'd probably replace Wamdus
Most Rune mirrors I run into are either hybrid earth rite or pure boost without wamdus
mystic tartan
Most Rune mirrors I run into are either hybrid earth rite or pure boost without ...
that hybrid rune is honestly annoying as a sword
norman 
new dungeon
oh they exchanging the rewards to new cards pack for next set
lul
sick oasis
I've seen Odin variants. I think if you're going to run it at all, it should be ...
yeah that's what i thought too
tho there were games that wamdus still clutches the game for me
sick oasis
https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/1qnc8d9/dungeon_crawler_coming_tom...
great more fun for sword users 
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that hybrid rune is honestly annoying as a sword
Norman and other strong sources of healing are specifically because of Sword users
mystic tartan
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Probably why the devs didn't nerf Norman, but if they were competent, they'd nerf Norman along with some egregious cases of out-of-hand damage.
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wonder how fleshed out that new dungeon mode is gonna be since it already looks like more fun than ranked to me 
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That's not a high bar for you since you prefer take two.
red plover
true but even take two is rough for haven right now, as you can see by the 7 redraws adjustment
its just gonna become worse with this tight rotation they are having in only take 2 for some reason
I only managed to get 7 wins once with haven this set and I used like 80% of my gold in take two
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I used like 80% of my gold
Reason why I don't bother with the format.
Like if I have over 25k, I'll play a few times but if I start going negative, I stop
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I dont save any gold anyway since I just play a single class and its worth it for me to go negative to play a mode I enjoy way more
mystic tartan
i did grind take two for frieren
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swtRawr
anyone online? didn't know they reset the weeklies in the park
actually nvm, need to log off
mystic tartan
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sick oasis
i shouldn't have dealt damage to you so we can see the -20
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Bullying noobs who have to use the owl
sick oasis
hop on code vein 2 mr dine
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Eggs everywhere 
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i was like 80 away from pity in the collab banner and this is all you get
yeah never rolling on another collab banner ever again what the fuck is this
i was wondering how many vials you would get since they would not transfer the pity
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Well, let's put it this way, if you spent those pulls on the normal banner, you'd have less vials overall, assuming you pulled the exact same cards
Personally, I think the conversion should be higher but unless you wanted the imari/unkei tickets
It was better to pull on Frieren
fading echo
yeah but i would have the pity for the leader on a pack that potentially has leaders i would like
not worth the trade off if you're not gonna swipe to reach the pity
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IMO, since the average pack is at least 100 vials each, that should be the minimum
fading echo
maybe for new people with 0 vials but i'm day 1 player i can just craft whatever i want it's better to spend the gold on packs that are never going away and have leaders that i wanna collect
especially since you don't know what collab is happening next
especially since eventually every pack has dupes that you can turn into vials
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I semi-predicted this one, but my other predictions were JJK and Hell's Paradise
Since the new seasons were coming out around the same time
So unless the next collab is not anime, I feel like it won't be that hard to predict.
fading echo
at least i got lucky and pulled a fern but i bet there's f2p people that got nothing
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That's by design. They want the f2p's to swipe
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did anyone know that tickets can actually expire? If they do it picks something at random but still, kinda insane to begin with 
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Yeah, 6 months. But at that point, I blame the user.
red plover
its a fair point but theres no good reason for them to expire in the first place I think
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Database limitations? 
It's very possible there isn't a good reason
But as someone who's pulled multiple tickets, I can't imagine holding onto one for 1 month, let alone 6
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its also kinda funny seeing this and just thinking that these tickets will turn to nothing if you didnt know beforehand what happens if they expire
mystic tartan
xdd
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just waiting for the feature to trade in the tickets for some other currency 
mystic tartan
Fennie is just insane man
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bebela
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this is the kind of deck you need to draft in take 2 as haven to have a chance of getting 7 wins now and even with this I still lost once
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yeah its broken
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Can barely be bothered to play this month
mystic tartan
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It's just overwhelmingly portal
mystic tartan
is this the nyx nyx
sick oasis
<:ICANTLOLW:936914267452633088>
oluon up
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Anyone up for a game? 
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Finally climbing out the gutter with forest.
sick oasis
@mystic tartan you playing?
mystic tartan
ye
sick oasis
blissful olive
bruh what
who even is that
daily pack W i guess but this looks like its sword?
@umbral seal do u know when the next new set is coming im out of loop
blissful olive
she kinda nice tho at least
blissful olive
wtf gimme that
u know when next set is ?
mystic tartan
soon
blissful olive
u fucker lol
mystic tartan
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daily pack W i guess but this looks like its sword?
You got that from the free daily packs?
blissful olive
ye
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<@267522380904136716> do u know when the next new set is coming im out of loop
End of this month. Not sure what day.
blissful olive
ah i see
i got like 2 weeks to save up for shit then my shit dookie poor now tho after making sword today
and not playing for months
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Hate that dragon is too meta now 
How many pts do I need for Beyond
1948, yeah I'ma just play Forest.
blissful olive
u roaching out dood?
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No, Roach is not good relative to the skill required for it. I play evo forest instead.
The amount of portal on ladder means your godwood staff will always get deleted.
No staff = worse draw engine and less potential combo damage.
blissful olive
them eggs do be out of control
wtf is evo forest tho
like i remember temp forest was kinda around for a time but i dont think ive ever seen an evo forest
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Don't know how you don't understand what evo forest is, they have several cards that only work in that deck.
Ewiyar, Cupitan & Yuel, specifically.
blissful olive
i mean i never really seen it
outside of people running like gran
is this supposed to be a counter for portal?
blissful olive
i see
after coming back ive been enjoying sword but thats also partially due to getting the leader
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The only leaders I was interested in were Frieren & Fern. Got both.
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Just a cygames card, not part of a collab.
blissful olive
right
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Best way to learn is to just play the deck tbh
blissful olive
managed 3-1 with mid range
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Not bad considering I started at 1350 this month.
blissful olive
the default is like 1200 or so yea?
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The default is 1600 if you enter gm at diamond. 1250 is entering at topaz.
I entered at diamond but I was getting cooked by everything in the first month
The dragon match up is still ass but everything else feels decent. Spellboost can be difficult depending on how insane their hand is.
A lot of sb lists don't run cocytus, which I think is incorrect.
mystic tartan
tfw ur guild is dead and you have to solo the chest event
oh u dont join Kuncussion guild ??
blissful olive
im in merps
mystic tartan
lul
blissful olive
i dont play enough anyways he wants ppl like hella active
mystic tartan
i dont play enough anyways he wants ppl like hella active
nah we have people that havent logged in 30 days
he do be have many RPs tho
blissful olive
i need everything i can get from not playing in forever
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i dont play enough anyways he wants ppl like hella active
???
When have I ever said or implied this?
I very often keep people who've been inactive over 30 days. Ask @unkempt lava
Mostly depends on how much you contributed on release, or in general.
blissful olive
u said u wanted fellas who was active
mystic tartan
im 30k grp soon
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u said u wanted fellas who was active
The latest thing I have said in regards to guild expectations is 4k grp per set, which is extremely easy. Activity, i.e. logging on, is meaningless if there is zero contribution.
Your usual assumptions directly contradict what everyone in my guild can see for themselves
Which is why Ordine corrected you before I did
blissful olive
no i said earlier on
and i also dont care about grinding to like S++ guild ranks etc
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Not sure how "early" we're talking here and I don't recall wanting "hella active" members but if you can pull up a quote, feel free.
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and i also dont care about grinding to like S++ guild ranks etc
There's only 5 people in the guild who bother to grind above 10k grp, hitting s++ doesn't require everyone tryharding
Just a handful of grinders
blissful olive
thats just an example idk what the highest is anymore
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It is still the highest
The requirements just aren't that high
5 people hitting gm3 in the first month gets you halfway there
blissful olive
they juiced the rewards for getting gm too right
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Not really. There are better rewards for being top 1k in mp at the end of each month.
I grind gm3 for the sleeves and globes
Being top 1k gives you 10 packs of the current set and a lot of vials
blissful olive
dang
mystic tartan
<@729570331747942480> oluon up the goat is playing
mystic tartan
mystic tartan
kek
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did not oluon on turn 7
That would've been throwing, the play here should've been coin Albert and Oloun next turn
Since it's very likely the Rune player has Norman
sick oasis
yeah that's what some of the chatters were saying but too late she already misplayed before this turn
but most of the chat, myself included, just wanted to see the gamba
blissful olive
W daily pack
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Need to grind more forest 
unkempt lava
going to play more. Don't want to spend money like previously for the frieren collab.
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You're already behind at this point.
Although, I find it strange. I spend money but also play more than most fellas here, simply because I enjoy the game. Not because I want to save money.
F2P's can't reliably pull tickets no matter how much they save. It's always going to be luck.
The other option is being a Take Two god but that's also unreliable.
mystic tartan
The other option is being a Take Two god but that's also unreliable.
i meet a guy
that did that
he shared on fb
he abuse dragon
i think he did 200 take two rounds
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Must've been before the adjustments
mystic tartan
Set release start:
♦ 24k rupies
♦ 3 packs from GM0 rewards (?)
♦ 5 packs & 3 Take Two tickets from achieving Master Rank (Take Two)
♦ S++ Guild Rewards
The journey:
♠ Farming 122 Take Two runs + 12x GP Stage 2 runs
♠ No buying packs using rupies at all
♠ No 100x packs pulled from park keys
♠ 2 days of flood + electricity blackout = missed Fest Finale + missed 3x GP Stage 2 tries
Finish:
♣ 200 card pack points reached on 27th day
♣ Get Stark from gacha & Fern from 200 card pack points
♣ Still have 5k rupies leftover
nvm he started with 24k
mystic tartan
fading echo
Set release start:
♦ 24k rupies
♦ 3 packs from GM0 rewards (?)
♦ 5 packs & 3 Tak...
I mean rolling for leaders i don't really grind that shit I'm just throwing rolls at the banners I'll get them when i get them 
I did get pretty lucky so far not having to reach pity for several of them
I'll probably reach pity for filene then ill roll for imari
62 packs away from the selector in infinity beyond
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Took me a long ass time to find an evo sword list that actually works.
Oluon's been performing better than Amalia even in situations where I don't evo.
Clear most boards (aether included) while leaving a threat.
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Also, that deck is 7 6 cards off from being fully animated. All legendaries.
mystic tartan
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@sick oasis I see you in the lounge. Up for a game?
blissful olive
paid shuffler
sick oasis
<@704927885583974410> I see you in the lounge. Up for a game?
wait but i wasn't playing earlier...
mystic tartan
these portals are getting annoying now
blissful olive
that imari buddy shit is super cancer
1 cost removal thats not random but target is insane
right now all i see is mostly portal dragon and sword
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1 cost removal thats not random but target is insane
I actually get downvoted regularly when I say it shouldn't be 1 pp. It's not broken just because it can hit amulets.
Sometimes I wonder if SV players have played any other card game.
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It does too many things for 1 pp. That level of tempo gain is backbreaking.
It should cost 2 or 3.
blissful olive
2 is really strong but def fair id say
mystic tartan
sick oasis
mystic tartan
oluon it up
sick oasis
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If you don't want to ask here, you can always befriend randos and bring them to a table. Had someone do that to me this week.
Personality, I prefer to just do the knockout table. Gotta pick a struggle.
blissful olive
nah its not worth the trouble i just do the KO match instead
mystic tartan
usually i do the KO match
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Unless you had lethal in hand, he should've just left it unevolved
Fellas shooting for a Hail Mary even when it doesn't make sense
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Like outta all the times I played Oloun in evo sword, I think i only evolved him twice
Once when I was going to lose regardless and another where I was at 20 and my opponent was at 8. Astronomically high chance the opponent just dies
mystic tartan
<@729570331747942480> he oluon'd up turn 7
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Lost a calculated gamba with Oluon. I was at 16. Haven was at 7. All 3 hit my face.
Unlucky.
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Sleeves have to be the worst reward
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Sincerity is way more problematic
I've lost games just by them using it to flood the board very early. Usually by converting puppets
Nerfing both would be ideal but I don't think that's going to happen
sick oasis
yeah
if they don't wanna nerf
at least buff some of the well i would say almost obsolete cards
now that i've played most of the decks, i think spellboost and abyss evo has most of them
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The last patch only buffed Aria. Buffs are not going to fix thr current balance issues.
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now that i've played most of the decks, i think spellboost and abyss evo has mos...
Spellboost doesn't need buffs, it's far too easy for it to get out of control. It was tier 1 for the first 3 sets.
Even last set and this set, it's still tier 2
sick oasis
oh yeah i guess what i meant to say is i hope they'll release new card that can well increase the consistency
it's the most giga gamble deck
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The problem with evo abyss is that belial is too slow even if he's in your mulligan but making his ttk faster would not be a good thing.
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oh yeah i guess what i meant to say is i hope they'll release new card that can ...
This would not also be a good thing. Spellboost high rolls, consisting of multiple destroyers and ara's, are already nigh unclearable except for egg portal or ramp dragon who run twilight.
Like I'm already at 1680 CR with spellboost and could easily push higher if I wasn't playing evo sword
Spellboost has the same inherent problem as ramp dragon and roach forest. Print one too many good cards for them and they're instantly tier 1
sick oasis
and it happened to dragon
tho i guess that's why i enjoy playing spellboost
you'll never know until like turn 7 if you'll win or lose kek
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Like if you look at most spellboost lists, the overwhelming majority of the cards are from the first set
sick oasis
yeah which is so funny cuz i haven't changed my deck since day 1
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Which is because even the devs recognize the problem I described
sick oasis
well except for ara
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Ara was the first very good spellboost card printed in awhile. Wamdus is still considered a meme even though I run 2 copies
The hybrid ER list is better for climbing but I find that boring
sick oasis
yeah and i'd have to count
only touched it once or twice
when are we getting a teaser for the new set? is it at the end of this month?
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You can probably expect teasers at either the end of next week or at the start of the last week of Feb
Don't think they'll patch on a Sunday so perhaps reveals on the 24th and patch on March 3rd
That would be my personal guess
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Free Seer's Globe from Eudie
Great gift actually
Closer to fully animating evo sword
red plover
didnt realize that this isnt even free
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Since he's loot sword, I'm assuming he doesn't like his odds of winning with what he has in hand
You could put him to 1, meaning he's dead to your 2nd SEVO
But he could also just scam a win with 2nd Oloun (odin isn't lethal)
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didnt realize that this isnt even free <:LULE:966517942638481408>
At some point, they'll realize they make more off alt arts than card sleeves. Or maybe they already did.
I've bought zero card sleeves but have every alt art from the shop
red plover
more alt arts please 
sick oasis
But he could also just scam a win with 2nd Oloun (odin isn't lethal)
sadly he didn't have a 2nd oluon in his hand
he ff when i sent that screenshot
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I guess he bricked
mystic tartan
mystic tartan
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Yeah, sometimes Wamdus just sticks. Rare, though.
mystic tartan
very rare
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The trick is to double Wam and barrier the bigger one. Still dies to hard removal/bane but it'll work sometimes.
Against eggs, you're either playing super aggro before they can build eggs for congregant or turbo cycling your deck for cocytus
red plover
how do the teasers keep getting worse
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I don't particularly care about all new characters but I'd like some new keywords. Or the return of some old keywords like accelerate & crystallize.
blissful olive
9 days damn
well since i havent been keeping up i can probably make 1 deck this time
hopefully sword and abyss get some fun shit
umbral seal
Abyss already has the most archetypes in the game. Just none of them are top tier this set.
Sword got... Oluon, which should be reworked.
More rally support and/or commanders would be nice.
mystic tartan
Oluon should attack himself
umbral seal
This was the original version
Significantly less OP because he could not also operate as a potent board clear
This was just full meme
blissful olive
a lot of the time i play him for shits and giggles just to see what happens lol
umbral seal
Nah, there's definitely calculated ways to play him for the greatest effect
Pushed to 1850 with evo sword while running 2 copies of him
Oftentimes if you drop him unevolved, the opponent will have to spend an evo to remove him
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Eh, I wouldn't say that, although I guess both cards can operate as a board clear and finisher
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Puppets can draw over half their deck very quickly with the imari engine. Every portal deck can.
mystic tartan
i already draw many
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Nature of card games.
mystic tartan
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Evo Sword struggles
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🔥
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give spells +1 spellboost
They already did that for cards like Wind Blast. It was worse in SV1.
Sword will almost always be unfavorable for spellboost, especially if you're against aggro/loot.
blissful olive
i like the aggro ish mid range version of sword right now more than loot tbh
mystic tartan
its a gamble
if opponent has counter to ur shit or not
like i literally just zirco and opponent surrend lul
blissful olive
lol
the version i play
i guess call it tempo idk
win on turn 4 if they cant deal with a zirconia board
turn 1-3 u have like the 1/1 storm guy the knights from the 2 cost spell grimnir etc
sometimes i coin out bea
mystic tartan
sadly its not very reliable kek
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Evo & loot are more reliable than aggro. Aggro has to coinflip rather often with oluon to win the game.
Also, it's not even close to midrange.
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The 3 evo sword games I won today, I didn't even have to use oluon
Just board spam and and finish with albert
Sometimes finish with the classic zeta + seofon combo
blissful olive
sometimes late game seofon is just impossible to deal with
umbral seal
Nah, in high CR, the amount of times I win with seofon alone is rare. I usually have to use regular SBA to push damage for albert and/or invoke sandy.
The best decks are too good at clearing boards, and while I've seen more forest at 1850+ (which is favorable), they can just kill you before seofon is online, if they draw well.
Really want this guy back, tbh
Or this guy, for lilanthim
blissful olive
what u think of that 1 guy
the 3 cost 5/4
sometimes he can be hard 2 deal with early
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the 3 cost 5/4
Only belongs in aggro sword.
He's only good if coined out, exactly on turn 3 or turn 4 at the latest
Dead card otherwise.
red plover
better than the teasers 2 days before the update I guess
red plover
actually some cool looking monsters in that set 
mystic tartan
yeah ngl
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Accelerate and crystallize, called it
nocturne karmaBOT
@umbral seal has leveled up! (103 ➜ 104)
mystic tartan
honestly im just gonna save this set
even tho this haven leader is great
i dont play haven
umbral seal
i dont play haven
A lot of y'all have to stop using this as a reason.
mystic tartan
i tried haven alot not my playstyle
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This was at zero before set 5
This is Haven currently
I will play more Haven if they bring back decks that appeal to me
Crystallize was largely used by Haven in SV1, I wouldn't mind that.
I don't vibe with crest, ward or odd.
red plover
crystallize will save haven early game
umbral seal
Eh, not really. That never completely stopped Haven from getting run over in SV1.
They get a better early game, but so will everyone else
As a result of everyone running accel and/or crystallize
red plover
at least you wont be stuck with unplayable high cost cards early game 
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There's also a cost to playing crystallize/accelerates - you lose their late game utility. But this usually doesn't matter depending on the win con of the deck.
For discard dragon, it never mattered.
sick oasis
anything good in the new set?
mystic tartan
anything good in the new set?
dont know the details
of the cards yet
bro was using puppet and still its a close game
umbral seal
Pro players are not unbeatable
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Kandima won't make me a haven main but I will play much more haven than I usually do.
umbral seal
It's not like spellboost is tier 3 or lower. It just isn't tier 1.
Also, a giga winstreak would be like 10+ 🙃
blissful olive
@umbral seal u running odin in dragon btw?
umbral seal
In Storm Ramp, yes. In any other list, no.
blissful olive
so not in fennie decks
umbral seal
Correct, it makes no sense.
blissful olive
whats a storm ramp? like just running forte cause dont u usually run zooey genesis and all gal anyways
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Pretty much.
There's also this version, which is what I've been using for the Grand Prix. I prefer it since Fennie is more prone to bricking, and this has a better match-up into eggs than storm ramp
Specifically because of Burnite.
blissful olive
oh ye i forgot bout her
she was like the #1 board clear before
wish i got a dragon leader playing with base kinda ass lol
fake rerget not getting the BP leader when i had the chance
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Personally, I'd like it if Dragon got nerfed because dragon mirrors are very dumb. Whoever drops Erntz first basically wins the game.
Braindead match-up.
blissful olive
yeah whoever gets the ramp up first usually comes out ahead
this is what i was running currently
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Should always be running 3x genesis in a Fennie deck. Primarily to avoid games where you need discounted dragons to win but draw them early (for example, against eggs)
blissful olive
o ye forgot bout twilight but its hard to fit everything
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Twilight Dragon was a tech I added because I was getting clapped by spellboost decks around 1800 at one point
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o ye forgot bout twilight but its hard to fit everything
I mean, this is why I cut ocean rider & jellyfish to 2x. They're good, but not mandatory 3x
blissful olive
btw is this a good play
like coining out dragon sign
i always wonder if i should just wait save it drop a potential 7 or so early
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Depends on your hand and what you're playing against. Here, it's fine since coin dragon sign goes into GD and then galmieux on your evo turn if necessary.
If you have double ramp in hand, you should save the coin so that you can coin out Fennie before you unlock SEVO
And getting out Fennie asap is always the priority if you can safely do so
blissful olive
ye some games i literally cant play her
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Fennie decks can win without Fennie, sometimes, but at that point, I'd rather be playing a deck that doesn't have her in the first place.
This is why some people prefer to play storm ramp or Burnite, since those decks are not relying on an 8 drop that can be hard-punished.
Pretty much any decent portal player will flood the board right before you have 8 pp if they think you're a Fennie deck
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Sometimes I keep Fennie in the mull because you need her to win. Against sword, definitely not.
You can beat sword just by playing Neptune and Erntz normally.
mystic tartan
lol rip oluon
red plover
only took the entire set and a tournament for them to finally nerf him 
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Nerfs always come at the end of the set. This isn't new.
Do I agree with this trend? No.
But it's consistent with their normal behavior.
red plover
Nerfs always come at the end of the set. This isn't new.
wasnt the benison nerf in the middle of the set or am I remembering wrong
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wasnt the benison nerf in the middle of the set or am I remembering wrong <:HmmT...
Wrong.
It was right before Skybound
red plover
ah, I tried looking but their site doesnt save all announcements for some stupid reason
that aria buff was in the middle of the set though, but I guess it doesnt count since its a buff and not a nerf
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that cards dead now lmao
Yeah, there's actually no point running it in evo sword anymore. I'd rather just have golden knights
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that aria buff was in the middle of the set though, but I guess it doesnt count ...
They always buff in the 1st month and nerf in the 2nd month.
I think this is a stupid way to balance
red plover
I see
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But it's what they've been consistently doing
red plover
basically allowing stupid stuff to run for the entire set every time
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The bigger issue is that Oluon is the only nerf
red plover
yea that too
cant wait for whatever busted stuff the next set has to be added on top of it
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well hopefully sword gets some more juice then in new set
Sword has had at least one tier 1 deck since set 1. They'll be fine.
It would take a lot to dethrone loot since the devs are taking this hands off approach to balance
mystic tartan
Sinciro is still cinema
blissful olive
ye bro can hit u for 12 on turn 6 if ur lucky
shits goofy
will forest remain shit tier is the question lol
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Depends. Printing any 0 cost card for forest is an automatic roach buff.
Tempo Forest is playable but not that great, even after the Aria buff
Every other Forest deck would need significant support to be a serious threat.
blissful olive
whats the aria buff ? she cost 5 now or something?
i like tempo forest but ye its not that great
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whats the aria buff ? she cost 5 now or something?
SEVO changed to normal evo. Means you can actually play her on turn 6 going first or save the coin to get her out early
It definitely helps
But it's still weak
I played it before and after the changes
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Forest has always been the combo based craft. We know what it's supposed to be
Every combo besides roach is bad and the devs don't want to buff roach so we don't get into a situation where you're getting reliably otk'd on turn 6 or 7
blissful olive
yeah its just not good enough
like it cant just be the forever combo craft they need more ways of playing that dont blow ass lol
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3-2 in the GP finals. Lost to two aggro sword players.
mystic tartan
Xdd
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I didn't even have bad hands either. They just had insane curves.
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Mild shock.
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Thoughts?
I don't care if fellas are inactive in the 2nd month because Cygames doesn't even try to spice shit up.
mystic tartan
yeah its fine
red plover
isnt that the point? shows they are at least doing dailies
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I play like it's a 2nd job and I still spend money.
Mostly because I like alt arts a lot.
Slowly pulling for Galm's right now.
mystic tartan
yeah i play daily till gm3 and i can pull a leader every set
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You also have ridiculous luck
mystic tartan
but now im saving cus surely collab next
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but now im saving cus surely collab next
The leak didn't indicate there would be another collab this time around.
Maybe in the 7th set.
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I mean, Fate collabs happened more than once in SV1, iirc
It's going to happen eventually. Saber is very popular.
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Saber was a Haven card, actually.
mystic tartan
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They might change that, because Vira was originally a bloodcraft card and now she's a haven card.
So we'll see.
mystic tartan
blissful olive
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Not bad.
mystic tartan
lose cus i lost gamba oluon
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Did you have to or were you yolo'ing?
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Yeah, if it's a situation where you're probably going to die to Axia or Odin, you don't have much of a choice
mystic tartan
oluon slam me twice and its joever
blissful olive
slam it in me onii-chan
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sick oasis
if i make oluon do i get the vials back
xdd
i wasn't playing during the previous nerfs so i dunno
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if i make oluon do i get the vials back
Correct.
blissful olive
lowkey tho
how is this getting nerfed but imari is cool
portal gonna be cancer for a very long time now
mystic tartan
mystic tartan
blissful olive
ty
hmm
she doesnt seem very good tbh
2 base cost doesnt give much options
unless like serene
we'll get more tho prob
hm
amulet haven bitty?
blissful olive
hoepfully they do some event
not just that bullshit chest ranked shit
wtf is this
blissful olive
yeah like every new set should have an event
like those uhh ranking battle place ones are cool
we need someting on that level every set minimum
tanoshi bitty?
hm
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she doesnt seem very good tbh
You'd think after people doubted the viability of Crest Haven & Odd Haven during reveals, we'd learn that these mechanics are always greater than the sum of their parts. And we don't know all the parts yet.
blissful olive
right now we only got 2
but they gonna have more than 1 for sure or just do it on the crystals
oh its finally happening
mystic tartan
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Considering crystallize is back, they're going to have a lot of tools to power lyanthoth
blissful olive
they gonna split ranked i imagine
but ima play standard probs like other games
albert going away sword in shambles
zirconia bitty
mystic tartan
set 7
blissful olive
o they bringing back free / borrowed cards
lowkey i just wanna see the BP leader rn
who wanna smell like sinciro
where the sword mains at
blissful olive
prob 10
what baffling me is how they not doing any event on set drop
all this shit is late march to june
lol
fgc verse
wtf
discard bitty?
mystic tartan
zamn
mystic tartan
she sexy
mystic tartan
blissful olive
finally i will no longer have to use galans greasy ah unwashed hair leader
mystic tartan
why didn u buy the Ei one
blissful olive
i wasnt playing really at the time
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I skipped El because Heirs burned me out
blissful olive
also didnt like dragon at the time
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Probably the same situation
blissful olive
just sucks gonna need 2 weeks to get her
blissful olive
even if u do missions dont think u can get her that early the leader
blissful olive
yeah tis 25k points
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even if u do missions dont think u can get her that early the leader
Could always buy the BP with extra pts
But even i don't do that
blissful olive
nah that gets 2 expensive buying levels
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Waste of money
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Honestly, sagatsumatsu is good even if you ignore the discard
Storm, bane and aura is annoying
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Small indie company
mystic tartan
yeah this set is yawn
blissful olive
i mean its fine i guess
see what the other crafts getting and junk we onsaw a few cardsly
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yeah this set is yawn
That's a premature reaction after 4 reveals, unless you only care about Sword
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Oh. Personally, I don't care if I get events
blissful olive
yeah they always do this dumb shit
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I just enjoy playing
blissful olive
putting events weeks or months after set drop why
