even when meta settle
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umbral seal
I'm not saying it's bad either. But it does not meet the threshold for ranked play imo.
gritty anvil
dont cry if they lethal u on 7 for 10 dmg if they hold it on hand 2 times if they combo it with ghost or quickblader
even single for 6 dmg face for 3 mana they can do this with double serpent for 12 dmg on 7
umbral seal
Unlike most of you in this channel, I don't cry for nerfs. I simply adapt, whether changes come or not. 
gritty anvil
what i never cried about nerfs
what u even saying
i meant like cry during game not like it needs to be nerfed
umbral seal
I don't cry during games either 
Also
umbral seal
dont cry if they lethal u on 7 for 10 dmg if they hold it on hand 2 times if the...
It's funny you're mentioning ghosts because Vuella combos already exist, and they're stronger because it's not contingent on your opponent using a resource
And again, mentioning Sword makes no sense because of how competitive their 3 drop slot is
gritty anvil
well vuelle is really strong card
vuella is better than this gold card
for sure
that doesnt mean u cant play both
gritty anvil
And again, mentioning Sword makes no sense because of how competitive their 3 dr...
what 3 drops u running in aggro sword
umbral seal
I don't play aggro sword, personally, but from the players I've seen at the start of this set, they ran 3 Valse (mandatory), 2-3 kage's and princesses
gritty anvil
i think kage is kinda cope ngl especially in this meta
umbral seal
I think people will experiment with this gold card (as they do with a lot of things) in the 1st week but it won't make the cut when the meta actually settles
gritty anvil
i would def cut kage for this new 3 drop
umbral seal
i think kage is kinda cope ngl especially in this meta
As far as I'm concerned, aggro sword doesn't exist. It's just a midrange list with a few more aggressive options
Kage sword is not a real presence on ladder
But I have seen streamers play it
gritty anvil
ur right its not really clean aggro like abyss but maybe loot cards and this gold card
can turn it into aggro
more aggroish
mystic tartan
gimme new season
3 days
also tomorrow final gran prix
surely i go 7 win
and not choke and threw
gritty anvil
man grapplr plays are so questionable its funny 
gritty anvil
surely i go 7 win
7 ? thats not take two lol
gritty anvil
yep
i watched
he did misplayed
one game horribly
well more like misclicked
and after he misplayedl ol
umbral seal
Is it actually that hard to get into Group A?
Can't say I struggled either time. The final stage is a bitch, though.
umbral seal
Also, I don't know if it's just me, but I always drag the evo point over to my unit. Habit from SV1.
umbral seal
I've probably done that maybe twice out of the 1.5k games I've played.
umbral seal
Well, one particular mistake was using normal evo instead of s-evo on Olivia
Won't forget that one.
mystic tartan
i almost lose to Haven playing Sword
luckily he got no jeanne
so my amalia is save and i got to delete his aether board
plus rose pretty good against ward haven
mystic tartan
wow 50k
umbral seal
50k is not a lot, imo. Gotten past 50k both seasons by playing pretty casually.
100k would be a bit more of a challenge but ultimately, none of this really matters since the devs refuse to implement the old ranking system
mystic tartan
how is the old one ? better ?
umbral seal
You lose points for losing. And not just a little either.
It was not that uncommon for people to be hard-stuck AA.
umbral seal
So, if you were AA0, you couldn't go below that, iirc
Even if you lost constantly. You'd just be stuck at AA0, 0 RP
umbral seal
Yup. Groups will reset to Ruby for everyone as well.
umbral seal
It's difficult to de-rank to emerald unless you're purposely inting every game (or you're extremely bad at the game)
Most players in lobbies are between ruby & sapphire.
A few topaz players, but not many.
mystic tartan
It's difficult to de-rank to emerald unless you're purposely inting every game (...
i sometimes mald q
warped granite
It's difficult to de-rank to emerald unless you're purposely inting every game (...
Or if you're learning forest om
mystic tartan
bro i dont even have a single bayle and refuse to craft him 
true abyss
Play roach
mystic tartan
9PP
5/7
Fanfare: Deal 2 damage to all followers. Do this 3 times
Ward
Whenever this follower takes damage during your turn and is not destroyed, deal 1 damage to the enemy leader.
Superevolve: Restore this follower to it's maximum defense, then deal 2 damage to all followers 3 times
mystic tartan
3PP
3/3
Fanfare: Gain Crest: Octrice
Evolve: Add a Gilded Blade and a Gilded Necklace into your hand
Crest
Countdown 8
Whenever you play or fuse a loot card, advance the countdown of this crest by 1
Last Word: Add a token spell into your hand
Token Spell
1PP
Deal 4 damage split between all enemies
new Sword Lego
mystic tartan
Are there any cards that do self damage
he self damage himself
so its 5/1
if u dont sevo
mystic tartan
yeah 6 burn damage if sevo
true abyss
3PP
3/3
Fanfare: Gain Crest: Octrice
Evolve: Add a Gilded Blade and a Gilded ...
Free crest, haven guys looking at them like : 
true abyss
Are there any cards that do self damage
Also you have to play the other dragon legendary with him, gives 0 mana spells that does 1 to all
blissful olive
thats pre good
blissful olive
that card is really good
the 1/4 is pretty shit
well maybe not complete shit but its not good either
wild gale
https://x.com/KyrusDarkblade/status/1959944377780023522
Is this the first good bronze card?
brisk adder
the 1/4 is pretty shit
yeah make it 2 cost 1-3
its gonna be omega good
aggro will die
brisk adder
<:monkaOMEGA:1053193830117158982>
so its a 1-2-3
red plover
now get to diamond 
fading echo
Idk how much win rate you need for that i almost lost that match if it wasn't for a top deck
mystic tartan
its feels fucking good to BM this rune player
heckin love aggro abyss
lmao
i match another
Rune
unkempt lava
So this next card set is a crest pack
fading echo
All portal win streaks must end the same way: you queue into balancedcraft
It was fun while it lasted time to throw another portal deck in the garbage
It got pretty far though 
vs 
cursive crypt
i didnt even get to group a finals 
fading echo
Group b is the meta because you get to play less so it ends faster
gritty anvil
i didnt even get to group a finals <:ICANT:1039599418208428182>
what the
u used all attempts ?
cursive crypt
Couldn't play yesterday and I played once today during lunch lol
I used rune, tempo forest, and roach for the last one
umbral seal
Time for Group A finals 
gritty anvil
i only played aggro abyss
cursive crypt
I went 3-2 for all of them lol
umbral seal
Not 0-2 this time
gritty anvil
oh shit u might get 5
umbral seal
If I keep getting bad players, yeah
gritty anvil
how your games went
umbral seal
Rune cuck playing a very outdated list, dead on turn 6. Midrange abyss player was okay but he misplayed with mukan, made it take dmg just to deal 1 face dmg with a ghost. Couldn't kill my yurius for a turn but he's lucky I did not have Albert in hand. Still died eventually.
umbral seal
Lost to Earth Rite Rune, of all things. Played double AG back to back, finished with Odin.
cursive crypt
Congrats man
umbral seal
Sword needs nerfs
blissful olive
i have 5 globes saved as well i just dunno what i really wanna use em on
gritty anvil
what u said u didnt win
gritty anvil
Rune cuck playing a very outdated list, dead on turn 6. Midrange abyss player wa...
what was this
it was just one game u lost ?
umbral seal
what u said u didnt win
?
umbral seal
it was just one game u lost ?
Yup.
gritty anvil
oh i though u were done
umbral seal
What you're saying is confusing me. Why would I be done at 4-1?
umbral seal
If I lost two games, the screenshots would've showed that
umbral seal
Anyone up for a game? 👀
gritty anvil
abyss aggro do it again
@umbral seal we made it brother
i actually lost that one game to sword
fading echo
he thought he was safe when i traded loyd and emoted me but i traded loyd to fit more damage on the board
mystic tartan
Got 0-2 grand prix
Despair
First one Rune it up
2nd got dogshit cards against aggro dragon 
also he pulls 2 Forte
mystic tartan
i got really bad starting cards
gritty anvil
i havent seen that deck in ages
gritty anvil
@cursive crypt do u run grimnir in forest ?
cursive crypt
<@475790499488202762> do u run grimnir in forest ?
No
In what case would you ever wanna play grimnir on turn 3
Or any other turn
umbral seal
In a vacuum, that legendary I posted is not bad. However, I would not say it fits into Roach or Tempo Forest.
Not convinced that the deck it should fit into will be viable, but that remains to be seen.
umbral seal
It's essentially a 2 damage board clear, assuming all enemy followers have 1-2 hp. Good card to stave off early aggression. Don't know what you'd replace in Roach to make room for it.
umbral seal
I personally would not do that because Ambush is far more flexible at all stages of the game.
But hey, if you want to do that, by all means.
cursive crypt
ur not running 3 of that card anyway
at most 2
so u can cut one ambush from above and use one of the flex slots
if the meta requires you to run krulle then roach will for sure run it
otherwise not really
umbral seal
I don't see Aggro Abyss falling off in this next set, even if Odin loses storm.
Burn Dragon might be problematic if at least one more ramp card is coming.
cursive crypt
krulle's crest actually will cuck abyss and forest
ghost just dies when it spawns
ghost, skellies and bats cant be played for 2 turns
umbral seal
Crest is only gained on super evo. By that point, the abyss player is usually not playing ghosts to kill you, outside of Excella combos.
Like, by the time you're super evo'ing Kruelle, the abyss player will more than likely have multiple ways to kill you without 1 hp followers, if you're below 10 hp
This is assuming you can save him for a super evo turn or you play him on turn 4 and keep him ambushed
For once, Cygames did the smart thing and only gave that crest a 2 turn timer as well
cursive crypt
i mean if you die to odin then u die to odin lol, but if you die before turn 6 then there is nothing to do that game anyway
even normal stuff its -1 damage
like odin and mummy will do -1
same with excella
also heals
so its really not even bad, plus its an ambush card yeah
umbral seal
Never said it's bad. It's a good control tool. Don't think it's busted, or will be enough to make Control Forest a real thing.
Also, I'm mistaken, her crest is only for 1 turn
So, better make it count.
cursive crypt
it still cucks abyss no matter the archetype 
maybe not so much nif you go full faith tbh
umbral seal
"cucks" is a very strong word here. It will help. I do not think this tilts the match-up in Forest's favor, especially against aggro.
cursive crypt
oh the countdown starts on your turn? so its only one turn 
well it sometimes buys you one more turn and sets up lethal
since its a 4/6 ambush
umbral seal
I'd say Lymaga is better at setting up lethal and stalling, although she comes much later.
cursive crypt
The crest count down is pretty weird since amulets work differently
Lymaga is only playable vs barrier 80% of the time so I cut her
Its not bad vs kuon too but u don't really struggle against kuon board
gritty anvil
In what case would you ever wanna play grimnir on turn 3
but in tempo forest it make sense ?
umbral seal
Grimnir belongs in two decks: Midrange Sword (free s-evo's) and Ward Haven
It is mediocre in everything else.
cursive crypt
but in tempo forest it make sense ?
No do you see aggro abyss playing grimnir
Tempo is a full casino aggro deck just like aggro abyss
U kill by turn 7 or lose
umbral seal
I understand why a lot of y'all netdeck now
Y'all have no concept of proper deckbuilding
blissful olive
im ngl a lot of the net decks ppl post are whack af
the craziest one was that S tier abyss deck with 3 vlad in it
yeah these are pros apparently lol
umbral seal
S tier pilots are not always S tier deck-builders.
blissful olive
its just some shit is concerning that goes up on game with lol
umbral seal
My only interaction with gamewith is the tier lists that show up on the sub reddit
Sometimes I agree with them, sometimes I don't
Tier lists are inherently subjective anyway
umbral seal
Surprised he's still playing Ghost Juggler.
mystic tartan
his hand lol
umbral seal
So, I'm watching a Take Two player and apparently, in that mode, you do lose points for losing.
Why this can't be implemented in normal ranked mode is beyond me.
true abyss
rip no sleeves for him
Side note, I don't like most SW sleeves
I like the base and class versions
I like Hearthstone like sleeves
Idk why other game just paste faces on the sleeves
Looks so weird to me
umbral seal
GM sleeves are the best looking ones in this game
true abyss
Like for example, this is such a cool design
The bottom ones are pretty good, i find the above ones weird
The black one here was one of my favourites
umbral seal
Well, if you want the the cool sleeves, just get 50k MP every set, starting on the 28th 
The only sleeves I ever used in HS were Legend sleeves
brisk adder
Norman Norman Norman Norman Norman Norman
brisk adder
he went 0-2 in B finals <:ICANT:1039599418208428182>
Same 
umbral seal
Better luck next set
fading echo
die rune dine 
the ironic kuon
at least that's the third kuon i needed to finish the ultra meta rune deck
fading echo
https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/1n0b08u/new_portal_card/
if only that crest was forever 
why did they give it countdown
it was the onion counter 
forest got a one shot card
needs some setup but it's easier to setup than gundam imo
it's raw 20 damage face
Could be played in roach too if you hold until it becomes 0 cost you get a free roach combo that deals 6 face
cursive crypt
No control deck can out value cock
Devs really think they can brainwash people into playing control decks this slow so spellboost can remain S+ tier
red plover
clearly they are gonna nerf every other deck so control can shine 
fading echo
Bro who tf playing this card man
Her cost gets lower when you hold her so she becomes 0 cost if you get early
Every turn the cost gets -1
cursive crypt
Her cost gets lower when you hold her so she becomes 0 cost if you get early
Earliest you can deal 20 is turn 12 man gl with that
Have to draw 2 of that Lego as well
It's hard to play fennie even after ramping 2x lol
fading echo
You don't have to go for 20 she deals 6 face without the combo if she's costing 0/1/2 that's faster roach otk
cursive crypt
Brother even if the thing costs 2 why wouldn't you pay rose queen instead
U say as if playing this thing is easy
It's 8 cost do nothing
cursive crypt
The spell is a token you get from playing 8 cost card man
cursive crypt
Yes it's rose queen tier
Maybe even worse cause queen can actually kill on turn 10
fading echo
Portal got some good cards to support the new archetype
Bullet from beyond for puppets and a stronger fighter
gritty anvil
honestly dragon got some good shit
overall
still no ramp
but rest is good
kinda
cursive crypt
I won't even bother crafting dragon until there's another ramp card that doesn't suck balls
Liu Feng is too ass
gritty anvil
sadge
cursive crypt
Better say what she does instead of the name <:LULE:966517942638481408>
It's the card you just linked earlier
8 cost unit that gives you the 6 cost spell
Just trash
fading echo
Oh i think it's bad
Would be cool if the spell was it's own card like dclimb like i thought it was at first but being part of a 8pp seems shit when forest can already kill at turn 8 with the roach combo
A bunch of classes got new wards but none that i recall have aura so they all still die to lily and cya i think next set forest and rune will pretty much stay the same as they are now
That being rune still being the hyper control otk deck forest roach being a counter except the other classes now have meme control decks that all still lose to dirtboost
I think abyss is the only class that got something pretty strong so far everything else seems mid maybe the neutral cards can save the mid stuff though
gritty anvil
well u can win with izudia on turn 12
but thats too late
u need to play him on turn 8 and again on turn 12 but u can also bounce that first one
u also need evo
for first one
fading echo
I guess it's the trade off for being easier otk than roach
That being said rune down 
gritty anvil
I guess it's the trade off for being easier otk than roach
well easier but way later
but who knows
maybe stall forest
can be thing
just pray
u dodge rune
like they got good defensive 9 drop
umbral seal
In the best case scenario, Izudia can kill on turn 11 with carbuncle s-evo. Turn 10 if you're going second and still have the coin.
Much more straight-forward than Roach, but as previously stated, Roach can kill as early as turn 7 with an extreme high-roll going 2nd.
Don't think it's complete trash and Cygames printing so many control cards makes me think that they may be coming down hard on SB Rune with nerfs. In an ideal world.
Worst case scenario is that they don't do enough to stop SB Rune from cannibalizing control, and dragon goes another set without getting additional ramp.
gritty anvil
i might try control forest deck
wiht izudia
its gonna be best to try
on start of expansion
but im gonna be playing take two for bunch of days lol
gritty anvil
In the best case scenario, Izudia can kill on turn 11 with carbuncle s-evo. Turn...
oh ye true buncle
thats not even that bad killing on turn 10-11
and its pretty much guarantee kill wards not gonna save u
only orchis
can
actually she cant
because u kill loyd
unless they evo it
so ye roach still kills u much earlier but require much more cards to actually work and in certain match up u just auto lose like ward haven
for example
rune also sometimes doesnt kill u on 10 its not always guarantee just very likely
fading echo
Yeah control decks would work on other classes if rune rn wasn't the perfect control with otk to top it off
umbral seal
I'll say that if I pull Galmieux, I'll be playing nothing but dragon this set. All the way to GM3.
gritty anvil
oh for sure
if i pulled leader
same
but ye all dragon cards they showed
are good
btw that orca guy who makes wards from orcas is actually really good
umbral seal
Otherwise, based on what I've seen in terms of card quality, I'm more likely to play Abyss
gritty anvil
hmm we can still cope
umbral seal
Even if I agree that their card quality this set is good
umbral seal
Dragon still paying for all the sins they committed in sv1
Which is a lot, to be fair
They've been top tier for a long time ever since Rage of Bahamut
No Aeila, no accelerates
true abyss
Izudia, Annihilation Manifest
8PP
6/6
Fanfare: Give an enemy follower -0/-6.
Evolve: Add a token spell (Annihilating Onslaught) to your hand.
Token Spell (Annihilating Onslaught)
6PP
Activates in hand. At the end of your turn, reduce the cost of this card by 1.
Deal 6 damage to the enemy leader. If an allied Izudia, Annihilation Manifest is on the field, deal 20 damage instead.
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umbral seal
Late.
gritty anvil
LUL
gritty anvil
but im glad they added this card atleast roachless forest is now possibility
gritty anvil
You win with 2nd copy if you stall long enough
yep
turn 10-11
well it doesnt even need to be second copy
u can just bounce it
umbral seal
A control forest deck with Izudia should still run godwood and carbuncle imo
true abyss
Ligma has a proper home now too
gritty anvil
staff would be best because u can bounce it on turn played
umbral seal
Eh. I'm not sure if you want to run Lymaga in that sort of deck.
You definitely want 3 Izudia because it's too important to drop him on curve
gritty anvil
ye lymaga is still kinda weird
umbral seal
So you're not delaying your win con
gritty anvil
i mean maybe but i would rather play olivias
or odin aswell
actually this type of deck propably dont need odin
u dont care for face dmg
at all
u just need to survive
true abyss
What is this judgement of this card 
fading echo
It's hard to not compare when what we have now has better performance than what's new
gritty anvil
What is this judgement of this card <:HUH:929123570766999552>
saying its worse than rose queen is dumb af
true abyss
It's hard to not compare when what we have now has better performance than what'...
Its assuming that the new deck will have the same match ups as roach
gritty anvil
rose queen require more setup also rose queen on turn played doesnt do shit
true abyss
saying its worse than rose queen is dumb af
I don't get this comment at all, did they not read the fanfare?
true abyss
And he basically has ward if they don't have a kill
gritty anvil
I don't get this comment at all, did they not read the fanfare?
he know about that fanfare he said more than 2 things
honestly i think this is still better than like fennie
overall
true abyss
I was literally missing something
true abyss
if it was aoe that would be strong
That's why I was thinking ligma would have been a good synergy
gritty anvil
mystic tartan
gedagedi
gritty anvil
shes def playable tho drain is rare keyword
warped granite
A lot of cards creating another card mechanics
primal isle
blissful olive
that card fucking sucks
so far this set reveals are underwhelming af lmao
at least give it ward jesus christ
warped granite
They are keeping the best cards for swordcraft 
blissful olive
fr
warped granite
And those are just the leggos
blissful olive
they gotta do something so far this set is a nothing burger
blissful olive
prim is fukin crazy
gritty anvil
abyss got vuelle she is cracked too
gritty anvil
lol
blissful olive
if there isnt 1 deck thats super fun im prob calling it
umbral seal
if there isnt 1 deck thats super fun im prob calling it
If you're underwhelmed now, you already have one foot out the door. Might as well uninstall in advance.
umbral seal
As far as Gilnelise, she's weaker than her last version since her spell used to give draw 5 as well but this one will still see ranked play. Just not in as many decks.
Stat-line is worse on curve, better on evo compared to the last version as well
gritty anvil
Stat-line is worse on curve, better on evo compared to the last version as well
she prolly gonna be played in deck that lacks heals
like forest
umbral seal
The health reduction also matches Forest's new theme. I could see it. Could also see her in an aggro deck with followers that can survive the hp debuff to go face
umbral seal
Dark side on a follower isn't that bad, and her stat-line can easily bait people into ignoring her
Which would be a bad idea before evo
umbral seal
btw u know she can heal for 4 ?
I know
gritty anvil
aggro is kinda cooked vs her because aggro lose 3 stuff on board and they also need to kill her
umbral seal
This is only bad if we're working under the assumption that Rune will still cannibalize control decks
I'm waiting on patch notes before having that sort of doomer perspective.
gritty anvil
This is only bad if we're working under the assumption that Rune will still cann...
it will
like rune not going anywhere and i dont think its power gonna go down
umbral seal
The game won't last very long if that ends up being the case, but considering how much worse than sv1 this game is, can't say it'd bother me if it dies.
umbral seal
u really think this game is worse than sv 1 ?
Significantly worse.
warped granite
It's set 2 and I barely play atm. Partly because of horse game sure but partly because of swordcraft
I'm just not having fun
gritty anvil
Significantly worse.
so why dont u keep playing sv1 ?
warped granite
I aggrobyss everything
umbral seal
so why dont u keep playing sv1 ?
Why would I return to an unsupported game? Weird question. After I get bored of this one, I will simply move on to a different game
Whether that's a card game, jrpg, crpg, arpg
I play almost everything.
warped granite
That's healthier than bitching and shouting at a game you hate / are bored at for sure
We leave that behaviour for league of legends
Well I'm still gonna pull for the next set and see how the meta looks like
gritty anvil
same im not quiting this set yet
umbral seal
It's already been confirmed that there will be balance changes. While Cygames has historically been late with nerfs, they're usually decent at identifying the problem(s).
So I'll be waiting on patch notes.
umbral seal
Least delusional Rune downplayer
mystic tartan
Least delusional Rune downplayer
bro really said u have to choose a mode
when all 3 is broken
warped granite
This is Norman vs gildaria?
warped granite
I think gildaria is MORE broken but doesn't mean Norman isn't broken. Won't find me defending him
umbral seal
when all 3 is broken
Well, no. The effects are fine. They're just too cheap and it does far more for spellboost than ER.
When it should be the opposite.
mystic tartan
I think gildaria is MORE broken but doesn't mean Norman isn't broken. Won't find...
i know
but cus im an aggro abyss
and got double Norman ed
sometimes
warped granite
The fact that all of us are aggro abyss says something about the state of the game
mystic tartan
Bruh so many Jerry support cards lul
true abyss
https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/cards/pack/heirs-of-the-omen/#
Holy shit, rune cards are all absolutely hot garbage
cursive crypt
and there's a otk counter on haven
No more dying to astaroth super evolve 
Still dies to roach tho
true abyss
My favourite archetype so far is egg
cursive crypt
Or kuon otk
cursive crypt
I'm just thinking about which class would have the best chance of pulling off a mjerbainne deck
true abyss
Abyss
cursive crypt
I think it's forest
true abyss
Why forest
cursive crypt
Good draw engine and cards to clear stuff 
true abyss
I say abyss because good spells and can draw jerry specifically with another spell
Is the new set at the reset today or tomorrow?
fading echo
warped granite
LOOOL this was the thread ordine got that norman guy from last time
holy shit reddit was actually just sword boosted players
mystic tartan
fading echo
Game kept throwing ward haven at me so i had to play the balanced deck
wild gale
@cursive crypt what do you think about greatwood warrior
Do you think it clogs up roach hand too much?
The deepwood bounty is just that valuable though
4/4 on board is also not a bad stat
cursive crypt
nah lambent is still better
i think its good if youre playing rose queen
this card is insane tho
i think the best card for forest that they released is bestial swipe
excluding legendaries
actually bestial swipe might even be better than krulle
wild gale
i think the best card for forest that they released is bestial swipe
Better may smh
cursive crypt
from this wording can she buff herself with the evolve effect
cursive crypt
Can't hurt to try
im testing rose queen 
cursive crypt
5 heal
not bad tbh since it works with normal evo
4 heal against aggro and clear one unit
gritty anvil
this card is insane tho
how is that insane its 3 mana deal 1 to all basically
cursive crypt
how is that insane its 3 mana deal 1 to all basically
wdym, u have this effect for 4 turns
gritty anvil
what?
gritty anvil
oh wait u right it doesnt get destroyed on engange
ok ye thats busted
well dragon didnt get any ramp
but cards are solid
cursive crypt
yes it is broken
imagine u have this on curve against abyss/sword
u just saved urself like 5 hp early game probably
forest as well
gritty anvil
Last Words: Restore 2 defense to your leader. Give your leader Barrier. wtf
gritty anvil
u just saved urself like 5 hp early game probably
ye dragon have now insane amount of aoes
wild gale
ok ye thats busted
Might try damagecraft
wild gale
Last Words: Restore 2 defense to your leader. Give your leader Barrier. wtf
That's pretty crap
wild gale
it makes u able to not get one shot by astaroth bs
If you're at astaroth lethal with fucking havencraft you're probably already dead
gritty anvil
That's pretty crap
it is but giving barrier to leader is interesting
wild gale
gritty anvil
honestly in this set there isnt single card thats like omega broken
cursive crypt
pretty good against albert lethal as well
gritty anvil
comapred to gildaria odin or norman
wild gale
so many games u have a full board of ward and they just coc dclimb
The countdown takes forever
cursive crypt
The countdown takes forever
nah u have at least 2 permanent crests in ward haven
u can proc it any time with that other thing that gives crest and has a ward
the 1/4
even if you have barrier on turn 8 its not easy for rune to proc it
cursive crypt
its trash bro
cursive crypt
not in constructed
imma spam take 2 anyway for a few days \
until my funds run out
cursive crypt
forest and dragon is gonna be good in take 2 fr
wild gale
She doesn't even give any artifact
wild gale
forest and dragon is gonna be good in take 2 fr
Damagecraft is going to nuke
cursive crypt
yea dragon got gcards
honestly i dont think i would even ramp anymore just play cards
maybe run 3 dragon signs thats it
just for high roll potential
its crazy that sword yet again gets all the good cards
wild gale
its crazy that sword yet again gets all the good cards <:ICANT:10395994182084281...
Is loot that good
gritty anvil
honestly i dont think i would even ramp anymore just play cards
too bad gilnelise isnt only for your max pp
she require both players to have 10 play points
cursive crypt
Is loot that good
the cards are good so i think it will be good yes
gonna try this garbage asap
wait i just realised i have 0 rose queens
gritty anvil
the cards are good so i think it will be good yes
dafuq why u playing rose queen
shes worse than izudia
cursive crypt
good we need to mind control rune players into playing that
wild gale
Raio deck is dog ass
gritty anvil
yes
like why would u even want to play raio if its on 9 it doesnt even win u game not even close spellboost kills u on 10 i think hes mainly for jerry deck
unkempt lava
Ok this card set doesn't seen strong at all
nocturne karmaBOT
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gritty anvil
Ok this card set doesn't seen strong at all
which one
oh card set
yes
there arent any obvious super broken cards
like last set
true abyss
Raio deck is dog ass
There is no Raio deck
Rune cards are just jerry support
Only 2 rune cards this set
If congregant of truth had storm, the deck MIGHT be playable
gritty anvil
ye like if u play raio on 9 with these cards in deck its kinda insane
in jery deck
but chance is that u gonna have him on 9 in hand is very slim
umbral seal
Good draw engine and cards to clear stuff <:Shrugeg:854063566058815528>
Abyss can guaranteed tutor it to play it on curve. This is far more important than setting up Godwood before Jerry.
This is irrelevant anyway because it will not be a serious threat in ranked.
true abyss
but chance is that u gonna have him on 9 in hand is very slim
What's even the point when you start playing the deck after turn 9
When you have stuff like dclimb kuon or coc
Or even ER
I don't think this new archetype helps rune in any matchup
Fennie in dragon is playable because dragon has ramp and finishers like forte and genisis drag
gritty anvil
What's even the point when you start playing the deck after turn 9
im talking about jery
its just rng
gritty anvil
if u draw him
true abyss
True
gritty anvil
like super rng u basically need to have him exactly in those 7 cards on turn 9
true abyss
I hope that all the decks have 2x of the set legendary
Because you need both
Free deck*
cursive crypt
Abyss can guaranteed tutor it to play it on curve. This is far more important th...
wait how do u tutor it 
true abyss
Nvm only 1 from the new set, scam devs
true abyss
wait how do u tutor it <:HmmTea:856610758729531433>
Only jerry unit, rest spells, there is a spell that draws a unit
true abyss
I mean it's a meme deck
cursive crypt
Nah haven will be just fine
true abyss
Its full rng
cursive crypt
Ok but if you only have spells in your abyss deck it's worse than bad
cursive crypt
Can you even do anything before turn 4/5 except for playing ghastly soiree
true abyss
Spells/amulet
cursive crypt
If you go 1st you can only play Jerry on 5
cursive crypt
But you need to evolve him
gritty anvil
btw i think this new dragon card with rush and ward that heals is kinda insane
she can always kill aragavy and heal either for 4 or 6
as example
if aragavy evolved u evo and heal for 6
while having 5/7 ward
and if u dont remove her she do it again
amount of healing dragon now have is ridiculous
true abyss
The 3 mana card is great too
cursive crypt
Most of dragon and sword cards are great
Abyss too
The rest are meh
Rune is the worst lol
gritty anvil
most of dragon cards
are good yes
ye rune got shafted most lmao
but its good
rune is broken anyways
but too bad for rune mains
they have no tools to play with
cursive crypt
I mean there's no way anyone would play spellboost when season starts right
They been playing the same shit for 2 months
They have to be bored of it already
gritty anvil
ye
well
there are some physchos
psychos
who play only rune nothing else
i know one
umbral seal
They have to be bored of it already
Winning isn't boring.
gritty anvil
btw that roach 4 drop
that gives 0 cost
is kinda cracked
but
is roach can make it
next meta
thats the question
cursive crypt
Easily lol
umbral seal
Is that even good
Also, there's no version of Jerry that will be good in a ranked/tournament environment.
We're just meme maxing
Abyss is clearly the best to get the ball rolling, though
cursive crypt
Winning isn't boring.
I mean at least the current version of dclimb rune is very different than the one from the first season
But I don't think the next set there would be any new card to replace anything
For spellboost hybrid
umbral seal
Sure. But if people get bored of losing with new shit, they will simply revert to the old shit that works.
Not only is that expected, but I've seen it many times in my 10+ years of playing ccg's
Winning is fun.
cursive crypt
Im gonna try playing pure boost with velharia
And maybe amalgamation
Yea ik some people would still play rune but surely it won't be as popular
The current iteration at least
umbral seal
Highly dependent on the meta. People played d-shift for a long time before it rotated to unlimited, myself included.
Thinking they'd be bored after only two sets is both naive and clueless.
If the meta is actually full of control and not aggro/midrange, there is no reason SB Rune wouldn't be popular unless Cygames nerfs it to where it doesn't completely cannibalize control decks.
true abyss
I mean you guys are talking about playing roach, which is also a deck from the release
gritty anvil
🤔
umbral seal
Most of my sv1 forest wins are on a deck that no longer exists
Probably never will again.
gritty anvil
@cursive crypt can this work ?
true abyss
<@475790499488202762> can this work ?
No aoe minion?
true abyss
grimnir is aoe
On SE
gritty anvil
ye
umbral seal
The 9 drop should not be a 3 of. Also, your obsession with grimnir is weird in decks where he's sub optimal
umbral seal
The 2 drop fusion should also be run
gritty anvil
i want to play him
nah
i dont like it
allure
u have staff
staff is important in this deck
true abyss
The 9 drop should not be a 3 of. Also, your obsession with grimnir is weird in d...
I stopped adding him because I forget about his crest 6/10 times
gritty anvil
i think olivia staff glade is enough card draw
that new 2 mana removal
is also draw
umbral seal
Allure's strength is not just card draw
You fundamentally don't understand the card
But that's not surprising
gritty anvil
u run it to not overdraw u mean ?
well if u not dumbass u not gonna overdraw with this deck
its not deck like roach where u need to hold all your fairies and 0 cost to do big combo turn u need only few cards to win
umbral seal
Titania + godwood can pretty easily create overdraw situations, but suit yourself.
Heading back to work.
fading echo
I think the new roach deck will just make room for the 2pp deal 4 damage draw a card and that's it
cursive crypt
<@475790499488202762> can this work ?
Honestly the new 3pp amulet would be better than staff
In this kinda deck
I was messing around with forest but didn't save
Staff is crap if you have a lot of expensive cards
I built something that didn't rely on combo
Just tempo and board clear basically
fading echo
Godwyn is good to 3 of if one gets banished and you can fuse the extras you don't need to free hand space and draw more
cursive crypt
I think the new roach deck will just make room for the 2pp deal 4 damage draw a ...
Ye I think so too
Depends on the meta we might slot in krulle
fading echo
I didn't put her in because she needs super evo and she costs 4pp
So she's gonna sit in hand killing tempo
cursive crypt
Her being stealth might be relevant sometimes, and the 2 aoe is on fanfare
Clears luminas mage, dogs, neptune/merman
It's quite decent
fading echo
It could but it's hard to see turns where you're able to use 4pp on her like you usually have to deal with coin zicornia or coin anne
There is dead turns versus control decks when they don't drop much of a board but it's rare
cursive crypt
You can clear zirconia if you they had to bump her into a 1/1 after evoing
It's actually good tho
U won't need her vs control deck but you will just win 70% of the time vs them anyway
gritty anvil
Staff is crap if you have a lot of expensive cards
but its about bounce it mean u might not need second izudia
cursive crypt
I mean 3 cost for a bounce is kinda expensive
fading echo
This card can be good in the future when portal gets more cards
cursive crypt
U prob will draw with staff like 2x aat most with that deck unless u highroll
gritty anvil
i said bouncing with staff izudia
fading echo
Good early clear portal needs
gritty anvil
staff is basically for more consistentcy
well than u lose the game
if u dont draw second izudia
cursive crypt
I slot in the tablet and pray u draw more of izudia
gritty anvil
well u could do that
but i dont know
bouncing izudia is fine tbh because u already removed 2 stuff on turn played
cursive crypt
And then what u still have to survive for 3 more turns at least
gritty anvil
yes
thats the issue with this deck surviving
but that 9 drop could help
with it
cursive crypt
Giving enemy a free turn is ass cheeks
On turn 9 no less
You likely will have to spend another Evo the next turn
Just to stabilize
gritty anvil
well even if izudia stayed on board they can just odin it anyways
cursive crypt
U need to evolve him bro
gritty anvil
well thats the other thing but u automatically assume he needs super evo
cursive crypt
Or even titania
But he does
It's not realistic to have normal Evo on turn 8
Unless both players are afk
gritty anvil
doesnt matter this deck just need 2 evos to win earliest possible one for buncle sevo and other normal / sevo for first izudia
cursive crypt
You need at least one normal Evo and one super evo yes?
gritty anvil
thats what i just said
cursive crypt
So if you recall the 8/8 or 9/9
U assume u will be able to stabilize
On turn 9-11
Without evo
gritty anvil
u dont need to evo izudia on winning turn u want to sevo buncle
gritty anvil
what u dont understand i dont get it turn 8 u play izudia with staff already on board
cursive crypt
u get the spell only on evo
gritty anvil
u evo him
cursive crypt
are u ok man
gritty anvil
get in hand spell
bounce him
and play him again with buncle on turn 10-11
and win the game
spell cost goes down every turn
by 1
cursive crypt
yes and then u have to survive 3 whole turns without a single evo after passing on turn 9
cursive crypt
that thing doesnt even clear amalia bro
gritty anvil
its basically ginsetsu type of wards
thats true
it doesnt
if they super evo her
fading echo
The sudoku portal deck could be good in a slow game world but idk seems gimmicky not having a real finisher other than odin face
fading echo
And everyone drops followers with huge stats to wipe those 2/2s from portal