Shadowverse

[gritty anvil]

ye

[cursive crypt]

Himeka is like lymaga but banishes instead of doing damage

It's not a bad card but it relies on you having crests

So it's hard to tell if she's playable or not

They just need to make cards that synergizes with current haven archetypes man

We had storm cards in the first set, wards in the second and now crests

Just nothing but anti synergies

[gritty anvil]

but lymaga is barely played

[cursive crypt]

Because lymaga is 7 cost in a class that focuses on combo

[umbral seal]

My thoughts mostly echo abe's. A lot of reddit, and y'all, are not good at evaluating cards and are too quick to jump the gun.

At a glance, she does not look great but it would not surprise me if she ends up seeing play.

Considering we still have a lot of the set we have not seen yet.

[red plover]

need to see all the non legendaries first to say anything tbh

[blissful olive]

board locked lmao

[cursive crypt]

Bruh you leaving 7 damage on board?

Professional gambler

[blissful olive]

fuck em

they aint doing shit lol

[cursive crypt]

I mean u just win if he has no roach ig

[blissful olive]

he did but no combos

[cursive crypt]

Wdym he can just recall the fairy twice

[blissful olive]

no combos

[gritty anvil]

well some forest players are just bad and dont see that lethal

btw if they are high ranked doesnt mean necessary they are good at forest

they can like trying to play deck

[wild gale]

He doesn't even need to bounce fairy

He can just use cairn if it's not necessary

Push easy ass damage

[blissful olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/736156831432572992/1408441543982972948/image.png?ex=68a9c0e7&is=68a86f67&hm=e5efcd041661d565e9ff41a4ba178485639010679fe724cc0c359b919e6c672a&

wet dream board

[gritty anvil]

should i play more lapis control to drop to topaz

[cursive crypt]

I'm just assuming he needs cheap cards to play

[blissful olive]

ima lose anyways dragon healing is broken

lmao

[cursive crypt]

Either bounce rock or fairy

[wild gale]

Yeah forest never has a problem with board space

[blissful olive]

W grand prix got a prem odin and gold ez 3k vial

[fading echo]

Lambentless otk

My brain is actually functioning

It was through luminous with barrier too

[gritty anvil]

i swear i saw so many ppl get premium lego from GP packs include me

i think packs from GP are rigged for higher chance for something good

prolly more wins u get higher chance u get something better in pac maybe thats cope tho

[blissful olive]

no

this was from pity

so it was lego anyways

[cursive crypt]

I just went 7-1 with this shitty ass deck in take 2

No roach lookin ass deck

[true abyss]

How

Did you get titania and aria on curve every game or what

[cursive crypt]

nah i played aria in like 3 games out of 8 but i did get titania every game

just out tempoing everyone cause i had like 3 mays and 2 lillies

i drew glade only in 2 games lol

[umbral seal]

Tempo is the most important thing in draft formats. Roach isn't needed.

[true abyss]

Went 3 wins on rune

Lost 2 to Sword, I went 1st

GG

[cursive crypt]

That was gonna be my last take 2 run until new set

Yea tempo is most important but if I had 2 roaches instead of lymaga + Cynthia I would go 10-0 lol

[gritty anvil]

u mean 6-1

btw lionel is kinda op

lots of stats for cheap

with super evo

if u evo carbuncle

oh wait im stupid u can go 7-1 in take two what im saying

[umbral seal]

You can also see 7 wins in that screenshot

[true abyss]

I thought this set was supposed to be biggy

Bigger*

[umbral seal]

There's rumors that they're hiding more tickets for the 2nd month

Honestly wouldn't surprise me

[cursive crypt]

Nah there's no way that's scummy af lol

[umbral seal]

It'd be consistent with how greedy they've been thus far

[umbral seal]

I'd be willing to bet money that they would

[true abyss]

But only 77 cards?

I thought this would have been double of IE

[cursive crypt]

Honestly he's not even better than lumias mage, I would pick him once but not twice

[fading echo]

Hide the tickets so people go to pity twice

[true abyss]

I'm not getting any tickets, so Idc

[cursive crypt]

Giving them benefit of the doubt cause there is no way anyone is that greedy

[true abyss]

I'll be opening 40ish packs

[cursive crypt]

They probably give 10 packs for free as usual right?

[true abyss]

Ye

I counted that

[cursive crypt]

I have 15k saved up and will be playing take 2 with those

So how many packs I open depends on how many infinite runs I got

[true abyss]

I don't have time to play so many runs

[cursive crypt]

I'm not in a hurry to play ladder anyway

I would prolly craft one deck cause I have 50k vials and the rest depends on the packs I opened

[umbral seal]

They already cut the starter decks to 3 and are acting like that's the reward for 3m downloads

If I necro your comment in 1 month, you'll know why

I'm just going to rush GM and maybe play Take Two after

[cursive crypt]

Having the ticket pity be at 350 packs when there are only 77 cards to get is already scummy

There is just no way any company is that greedy that they will not release other obtainable tickets until later

[fading echo]

Also changing the rewards and the rewards in general being low as fuck

F2p will never pity anything unless they brick the account by not rolling on new packs and just spamming old packs to cope with vials to keep up

The only real way to farm resources is becoming a take 2 god and getting 6+ wins every run

Because with 5 wins you get your gold back and a free pack with 6 wins you profit 250 gold

[cursive crypt]

averaging 6 wins isnt really realistic

realistically u should aim for an average of 3-4 wins

[fading echo]

With that you're still losing gold

It's more like buying discounted packs instead of profiting

[cursive crypt]

You get 2 packs + some gold at 3 wins

It's like a 100g profit

[fading echo]

You always get 1 pack and you gotta pay 1000 gold to get in

[cursive crypt]

Obv higher ur win rate is better but u shouldn't really try to earn gold by doing 2pick imo

[fading echo]

Only get two packs if you win 7

[cursive crypt]

Well u get 1200 rupies worth of stuff

At 3 wins

It's a 200g profit

U were gonna buy packs anyway

[fading echo]

I'm saying if you wanna farm resources you can't get out with less gold

Packs are just a bonus

[cursive crypt]

It's unrealistic to average 6 wins, it's just not happening

Averaging 5 is already insane imo

[fading echo]

Because you gotta do 3/4days worth of dailies to get 1k gold

[cursive crypt]

Even if you pick sword/portal every run

I'm just saying your mindset shouldn't be like that while playing 2 pick

As long as u get more than 2 wins each time it's good enough

[fading echo]

I don't even play it because doesn't look like a viable farm

If you pay 1k gold to get 500 back and a pack it's the same as just buying a pack instead of playing it

[cursive crypt]

Yea but if you can average 3 wins it's still better than buying packs straight up

And it's fun

[red plover]

no fun, only min maxing allowed

[fading echo]

Yeah over 2 is a discounted pack that's what i said

And over 5 is a profit

[cursive crypt]

Ye so I'll be playing that instead of buying packs straight up

Drafting cards is fun af

[fading echo]

Yeah i guess it's better if you wanna buy packs

Shame you can't meme too much since people will be try harding it

[true abyss]

I mean, that intended, also it's okay, since its just cosmetics

[gritty anvil]

thats what im doing too

but ye next set take two gonna be crazy because if u draft jery

that goes hard

well if u draw him early

but even later hes good u get 1 pp removal

[red plover]

they could also not include him int the card pool though

[gritty anvil]

nah

hes gonna be there

its also pretty low chance

u draft him tbh

and even lower chance u draw him on evo

he needs to evo for crest right

because how often u see odins

very rarely

in take two

[cursive crypt]

neutral legendary is rare af

[gritty anvil]

ye

so why would they not include him

its gonna be even rarer because 3 sets

right

to draft jery

[cursive crypt]

yea

if cocytus is not restricted i dont think they'll restrict jerry

[gritty anvil]

but i always draft him

if i get chance

[cursive crypt]

idk about always but most of the time probably yea

drawing 6 cards per turn is pretty broken

[gritty anvil]

in worst case hes just 5 mana remove something with body thats not terrible

if u draw him late

[gritty anvil]

ye and in take two u should survive pretty easily with what u draw

it should be easier to survive

than constructed

but ye for oponents its kinda impossible to play around jery cards

[cursive crypt]

u would be surprised lol

[gritty anvil]

unless u have perfect studied

omen set

[cursive crypt]

some cards are hard to remove on curve

[gritty anvil]

well honestly we dont know how many removals is in new set

[cursive crypt]

if rune plays remi rami on curve on the coin its hard af not to take 7 damage to face

for example

[gritty anvil]

but ye im kinda scared if i draft him

i time out

because i read cards lol

[cursive crypt]

just read them beforehand bruh

[gritty anvil]

i know but still

u can draw some weirdo combo

and u prolly can mess up that combo

but ye some cards gonna be straight up garbage

u glad u discard

like draw a cards are useless

actually

not really

[cursive crypt]

he would still be just as strong as the set tho lol, so far not many cards look good enough to me

[gritty anvil]

u can draw even more

bro gettin galmieux

would be nuts

early

in draws

[cursive crypt]

but maybe thats not that bad because power creep so far doesnt really exist yet

most legos will be useless like that male sword lego for example

cause they require synergy

[gritty anvil]

marwyn gonna be so garbage

what u gonna do with marwyn

when u draw him

discard that garbage

[cursive crypt]

not just marwyn tbh

i think gold cards will probably the best cards in jerry deck

unless they release another jeanne

[gritty anvil]

oh that sword lego

is also pretty trash

to draw without loot cards

[cursive crypt]

ye most legos will be ass

[gritty anvil]

velharia is propably one of the best take two cards

galmieux and velharia

oh also lishenna

is not bad

for long grindy games

that amulet might matter

a lot

[cursive crypt]

doesnt she require an evo point

prob ass in jerry deck

[gritty anvil]

well yes

normal evo

but she still gives removal

on playing

[cursive crypt]

the newly revealed haven lego is prob one of the best unironically

[gritty anvil]

for take two ?

[cursive crypt]

assuming they will release some crests

in jerry deck

[gritty anvil]

i mean its removal

its not bad

[cursive crypt]

doesnt require evo and iots removal

[gritty anvil]

but in constructed

not sure

well it all depends

how many crests they get

[cursive crypt]

does she have ward?

[gritty anvil]

dont think so

[cursive crypt]

grimnir and wilbert are 2 already

marwhyn is garbage

lapis maybe

[gritty anvil]

nope just checked

honestly marwyn

gonna be played

i think

in ward

maybe

wel actually maybe not

because u cant really play lapis

man it sucks

that lapis is unplayable

because that spell from marwyn would be actually really good

with lapis

speeding up resurect would be kinda nuts

but lapis is unplayable in this odin meta

i tried

to make lapis work

[cursive crypt]

only deck that makes lapis playable is in the ward deck lol

[gritty anvil]

honestyl i think haven gonna get card

that gives aura

cheap one

[cursive crypt]

cause you actually have stuff on the board that needs removing

they buy you time to play lapis

[gritty anvil]

hmm because u can bait out odins on wilbert ?

[cursive crypt]

nah its cause u flood the board with stuff

they will need to remove them and spend resources

[gritty anvil]

ye i guess that make sense

honestly i kinda want to try playing ward haven but i missing a lot of cards

i would need to craft shit

ward haven playing 3 jeannes ?

[cursive crypt]

i dont like playing it cause you rely on god draws

yea 3 jeanne

[gritty anvil]

i would need to craft 7 legos lol fuck that

[cursive crypt]

i mean every haven deck will want 3 jeannes and salefas lol

[umbral seal]

gg, very easy

[gritty anvil]

btw i might play only jery in constructed just for fun

[gritty anvil]

ye salefa and jeannes are good investment but aether and wilbert meh

i have 3 salefa 0 jeannes

1 aether 1 wilbert

[gritty anvil]

sword abuser

u have yurious in your list ?

[umbral seal]

Some storm haven lists have cut Jeanne, actually. Setting up avian statues for her is too slow.

[gritty anvil]

ye honestly storm haven dont need jeanne

[gritty anvil]

u can also play grifin instead of her

[umbral seal]

I always use sword when I'm trying hard. I have only been playing abyss on ladder, though.

[gritty anvil]

damn 2 jeno

oh u running 2 yurius

interesting

[umbral seal]

Jeno is still good. I don't agree with lists that cut him. Although, I get it. Sword has the 1st world problem of too many cards to choose from.

[umbral seal]

I actually played 2 Yurius back to back in my last game before ending it with Albert.

Even if they clear him, odds are, he puts you in lethal range.

If he doesn't get cleared, it's gg automatically

Most people don't have phildau for him so they have to use a more expensive removal that costs at least 6 pp

Which means they can't heal up

[cursive crypt]

its still removal anyway, and 1pp bird/ronavero are also targets for her

[umbral seal]

Okay but in storm haven, they don't want to be spending 8 pp for removal. They want to spend it to end the game

Which is why some lists have cut her

I'd rather have skullfane than jeanne in storm haven, tbh. Especially if I'm going to run the 1 pp bird

[cursive crypt]

i feel like thats just unrealistic cause most decks just have ward on turn 7/8 or just straight up kill you before that

[gritty anvil]

skullfane is kinda underrated it can be really powerful

but im not sure if i would ever run more than 2

even 1 is enough

[umbral seal]

Setting up jeanne for birds without dying is what's unrealistic

[cursive crypt]

setting up 4 cost amulets is unrealistic yeah

but 1 cost one?

its doable af

or ronavero

[gritty anvil]

becasue if u draw later in game those 1 pp amulests they are so useless and skullfane can pop them off instantly

honestyly 2 jeanne in storm deck can be fine or 1 but 3 seems too heavy

1 jeanne 1 skullfane i actually kinda like

[cursive crypt]

if haven has good early game cards i would agree

but it doesnt

[gritty anvil]

do u think kagemitsu gonna be played in loot sword ?

[cursive crypt]

nah

[gritty anvil]

aris playing dragon quest is wild

i didnt know he like that game

[blissful olive]

i tried 11 recently i couldnt stand it

[gritty anvil]

11 is great

i love it

[blissful olive]

it was just really really boring

[gritty anvil]

well i guess u dont like old style rpg

turn based rpg

[blissful olive]

i do i just didnt think its good

my fav game is actually ffx

[gritty anvil]

why u think it was boring ?

[blissful olive]

legend of dragoon also in there

the story starts off horribly for one

[gritty anvil]

i mean it doesnt have really explosive start

[blissful olive]

the intro is ok but after that when ur in the town is awful

[gritty anvil]

was 11 your first DQ game ?

[blissful olive]

im also really not a fan of silent protags

i think so yeah

[gritty anvil]

do u like artstyle ?

of DQ

[blissful olive]

i dont mind it but i wouldnt say i like it

[gritty anvil]

honestly at first i though i woudnt like it but i used to it

[fading echo]

baited this guy into using all his evos so his deck doesn't do anything and then just won with my broken ass sword cards

deck privilege

[red plover]

when the mirror pulls out the coc but you still win

[unkempt lava]

Missed out on 2 entry tickets

But i got 5 wins in a row on b

[gritty anvil]

my control lapis haven

[gritty anvil]

imagine losing to lapis as rune

[gritty anvil]

qualify with aggro again

lost last game but that doesnt matter

[fading echo]

we find those

[fading echo]

ward cuck dead

i'm convinced the game put all the ward haven players in a single queue and that queue was made for me because nobody else seems to play these guys

god damn this is trash

doesn't do anything shit stats 9pp

they added a forest card that will never be played unless forest gets a card with actually usable cost that has burnite effect

[umbral seal]

Can a fella get the english translation?

[fading echo]

it auto fills the board but every copy gets -1 hp

but it starts at 4/6 and it's rush

oh yeah it has ward too

[wild gale]

Man

That's some dogshit

[fading echo]

yeah like you drop that but so what

[wild gale]

Amelia does the same thing but better

Or Amalia

Or whatever her name is

No one is fucking using that 9 cost

[fading echo]

dragon, haven, portal, abyss and rune can wipe that

rune can just otk through it

unless the legendary gives you a storm crest that card seems pretty shit compared to current roach deck

[wild gale]

Forest still only has roach as wincon

[fading echo]

someone said they added this card so rune can super evo their legendary that banishes all clones

[wild gale]

Oh shut you're right

[fading echo]

devs literally giving other crafts dogshit cards so the rune cards are better

[wild gale]

Too bad no one will be playing this card anyway

[fading echo]

holy

[wild gale]

Abysmal dogshit

Forest least loved class

They don't even bother making any other actual wincons

[fading echo]

it's only redeemable if there's a crest that gives her storm

so she becomes empty board easy roach

but there's no way they give easy otk to stuff other than rune

[cursive crypt]

Idk about you but that forest card seems alright, the only problem is control forest still isn't a real thing yet

[primal isle]

did forest get to have better decks in sv1 than just roach

[umbral seal]

Neutral Forest.

[gritty anvil]

its not really that great cmon

it cost 9 mana lol

and its just ward with rush thats it

2 times

i doubt it will see play anytime soon

its really good card in take two tho

also notice they really want velnaria SEVO effect had value lmao

all these summon exact copies

velharia

[gritty anvil]

[umbral seal]

Pretty sure that's supposed to be for a Jerry deck before you draw him.

That's my first thought, anyway

[red plover]

coc could work as well

[umbral seal]

Uh, no, because Cocytus is 10 mana. Jerry is 4.

You definitely need more of your deck to survive until turn 10.

[gritty anvil]

yes and its also part of jery deck

but ye this can help u deck out faster

draw each turn

extra

[umbral seal]

Post Jerry, I'm pretty sure that card does nothing because it's already 1 of everything

It's just 3 mana, draw 1

Which is bad

[gritty anvil]

no

its engange

u can do it every turn

[umbral seal]

Oh. I was under the impression it gets destroyed on engage for some reason.

[gritty anvil]

same

[umbral seal]

Yeah, I guess it's pretty good throughout the game then.

[gritty anvil]

ye

also if u get lucky

and draw this early

when u already have jery crest active

can be game changer but

its still tempo lost

af

3 mana do nothing basically

but forest can afford play staff

dream would be drawing this stone from your normal deck right

play it on 3

and on 4 u play jery

and u draw into another stone

im thinking can this be good also outside jery deck ?

not really right

wait

maybe yes

because it heavily thins your deck means u can play it if u have already all combo pieces on hand and u just need that one card

so u banish rest of cards from deck

and have higher chance drawing that one card

[cursive crypt]

Tablet seems op for spellboost no? Thinning your deck before climbing for lethal

[umbral seal]

No. I don't know why I keep seeing people say something so dumb.

People love to act like Rune only has Cocytus as their win con like Kuon otk's don't exist

Also, "thinning your deck for astaroth" doesn't work because the deck thinning is on fanfare

[cursive crypt]

Yea u will be more likely to draw kuon again

It's not after u play coc

U just play kuon and climb

For another kuon

Thinning your deck is good

[umbral seal]

Rune is already one of the best at drawing their deck, they do not need this card. 🤦🏾‍♂️

If you somehow think this is good in SB Rune, I implore you to play it on release and tank your rating

[cursive crypt]

I will

I would get rid of all the dirt and play this

Just play for kuon otk

[gritty anvil]

yes and u also run one coc

means if u already have on hand all combo pieces

and just missing that coc

thin deck

or even post cockytus

increase chance drawing astaroth

but ye this is only like 1 copy to run

not more

[cursive crypt]

Nah I'm getting rid of coc as well

Get rid of all the dirt and coc

[gritty anvil]

?

[cursive crypt]

Only spellboost

Play for kuon

[gritty anvil]

oh

because board space ?

[cursive crypt]

Yep

[gritty anvil]

make sense

ye if u wanted to run hybrid and this amulet

u need to cut onion

propably

[cursive crypt]

Nah u just can't play this with dirt

Trash

[gritty anvil]

oh ye

its perma on board

that doesnt even help

if u cut onion

it would screw your kuon

for entire game

so ye it needs to be pure spellboost

but good luck not playing norman

kek

[cursive crypt]

It's fine u still have 12 heal from sagelight

[gritty anvil]

i actually need to try pure spellbost

[cursive crypt]

U will run more board clear anyway

[gritty anvil]

i only played hybrid

well but abyss aggro run u oover

abyss is only one really dangerous

without normans

[cursive crypt]

Anne greas is enough sometimes its ok

Prob run some divine thunders if you're that desperate to beat them

[brisk adder]

i hate archetypal shit

in mana based card games

[mystic tartan]

fuck i lost cus this bro has gildaria

with us no evo

[warped granite]

Yep somehow sword has to have the most value cards out of evo

Balanced class

While also having the best most consistent early game

[fading echo]

man love fighting rune that gets 3 anne and grea turn 4-5-6 into kuon turn 7

amazing class design

what if every class also had cards that just do everything

[mystic tartan]

2-2

i got stalled by portal

as sword

[warped granite]

deserved for playing sword

[mystic tartan]

i threw

[fading echo]

sv1 is kinda fun

[warped granite]

damn i remember it looking better than this

[fading echo]

same in my memory it looked as good as sv2 looks

but that's from mobile maybe the pc version looks better

[wild gale]

Yeah when I looked at sv1 after sv2 I was surprised too

I swear it looked better

[red plover]

when rune coc's into dclimb but they dont draw astaroth

[unkempt lava]

Top decks the perfect answers. What is this bullshit

[blissful olive]

oh right

i forgot bout weekly tourney

guess i'll do that tmr

[blissful olive]

W park

[blissful olive]

win 4 games daily is such a slog

but 200 gold is alot

[fading echo]

i'm starting to like aggro abyss

i just go all in every time and either i win fast or lose fast but at least the matches don't last 10 years to just die to dclimb anyway

roach abyss

i'm just out here flipping coins

just spam more anne and grea

[brisk adder]

Countdown 4

Last words: deal 4 to all enemies , heal 4 defense to your leader.

Engage: Reduce this card countdown by X, where X is your number of crests.

[fading echo]

[umbral seal]

It's actually worse than this

"split amongst all enemies"

If it was 4 all, this card would actually be very good

[gritty anvil]

old news

btw after reading himeka again i actually think shes not that bad but shes kinda situational shes basically kinda like vessel but instead of destroying she banishes 4 or less attacks and u need to remove her if she survive she can do it again but the issue is that range of attack is problem u need to super evo her to trigger it so it guarantee enemies be at 4 atk

can be worse or better vessel basically

she can banish entire kuon if not evolved

thats pretty strong

without needing to evolved her

[umbral seal]

The problem with Himeka isn't the card

It's that she supports a stalling strategy

[gritty anvil]

ye

[umbral seal]

If you're going to stall, it better lead to an otk

[gritty anvil]

i mean there is possible otk maybe

[umbral seal]

Otherwise, that gameplan, in & of itself, is weak

[gritty anvil]

with skullfane

but it require setup

well its not true otk

but a lot of dmg

[umbral seal]

There is no skullfane otk that currently exists. Even if one came in this set, I think it'd be too clunky in a class that doesn't have a strong draw engine.

[gritty anvil]

well that new amulet above + marwyn effect can lead to some high face dmg

with skullfane

like lets say u have 4 amulets on board right and marwyn crest

with 6 existing crests ?

is maxium

or 5

skullfane is 4 all enemies aoe 4 from amulet and 5-6 from marwyn crest because u didnt attack that turn well this assuming that u kill everything on board with skullfane aoe so that both amulet and marwyn can go face

14 face dmg is not bad

and this can be earlier than turn 10

well it all depends on rest of cards

and himeka fits this deck idea well

[cursive crypt]

dw haven can pull that 3pp tablet amulet from rodeo and draw every turn next set

[gritty anvil]

lol

wait thats actually kinda sick

[cursive crypt]

as long as u dont play it raw u dont trigger the fanfare

[gritty anvil]

rodeo honestly might be playable now

but its shame

or meta

it she he cant pull that 4 drop amulet

*shame

that would be really strong

if he could

[cursive crypt]

no im referring to the tablet of trial

the one that draws

[gritty anvil]

i know

omg

i just saying

its shame he doesnt pull that new 4 drop amulet

[cursive crypt]

oh

idk that amulet is trash anyway

[gritty anvil]

no its not

[cursive crypt]

4pp 4 damage 4 heal

[gritty anvil]

in cresh deck its not trash

crest

[cursive crypt]

with countdown 4 lmao

[gritty anvil]

well but it can go also face

and skullfane can pop it off instantly

i just explain it above

[cursive crypt]

requires too much setup for zero reward

[gritty anvil]

4 dmg face and 4 heal is not bad for 4 mana trade off

[cursive crypt]

its bad because it has countdown 4

[gritty anvil]

well maybe its meme but it could work maybe

bro

in crest deck

u gonna engage it faster

but i guess it all depends

how good rest of crest cards are

if there are some cheap cards

that give crests

thats important

[cursive crypt]

even if you play it on turn 6-7 with 4 crests its mediocre at best man

[gritty anvil]

i mean these 4 pp birds are also played

and its not that great card

i mean

[cursive crypt]

at least 4pp bird has a body and doesnt require a full deck built around it to make it playable

[gritty anvil]

ye but that heal might be very relevant

4 heal is quite a lot

we all know sage light

im not saying its broken but it can be good

biggest value u get from it

if it never hits followers

basically

and its just 4 face and 4 heal

that deck basically gonna be full aoe aoe clears skullfane marwyns himeka maybe even rodeo and rest just tons of amulets

and other shits that gives crests

[cursive crypt]

idk marwyn just looks so garbage to me

[gritty anvil]

like marwyn crest can be potentially really broken if haven have acces to easy crest generators

but we dont know that

thats the problem

for now

he looks trash yes

[cursive crypt]

If anything I'd go play heal haven with jerry and rodeos

[gritty anvil]

because there just isnt enough crests

like imagine if u can have consistently 5 crests

from turn 4 on

that would be really broken

no ?

having that effect every turn

if that deck was specifically designed for not attacking

[cursive crypt]

I bet u aren't gonna have 5 crests on turn 4-5. at most 2 and that's on a good draw

[gritty anvil]

well that would be garbage yes

[cursive crypt]

There's no way there'd be a card that gives permanent crest and costs 1-2

[gritty anvil]

well not permnanet

but maybe high countdown

[cursive crypt]

Grimnir is 3 and it's not the best

[gritty anvil]

oh ye grimnir is another perma

hmm so thats already 2

because marwyn one count aswell

[cursive crypt]

The new haven cards have too many restrictions man

[gritty anvil]

but ye rodeo with that stone

is actually pretty damn strong

it comes down bit too late

but its free draw every turn

also its not gurantee u pull it if u run other cheap ones

[cursive crypt]

What else are u running lol

[gritty anvil]

and if u dont need it u can blow it off with skullfane

[cursive crypt]

Serene grace, tiger, dose and tablet

You can prob cut one of those if you really want to guarantee the tablet

Either tiger or dose

[gritty anvil]

well they gonna add also some new ones aswell

i think

oh dark haven

u also pull

[umbral seal]

I ain't read all this but I'm going to assume it's just Haven cope

[gritty anvil]

yes

[umbral seal]

By people who are going to play Haven and drop it within 24 hrs

[cursive crypt]

I'm not coping I know haven is gonna be trash

[gritty anvil]

im not saying its gonna be good but maybe not complete trash tier

like ward haven is also playable

storm haven too

its just not best

[cursive crypt]

If anything the current ward haven prolly gonna be stronger by a bit

Because u can cut chalice for himeka

[umbral seal]

Storm Haven is the only deck that I think is halfway good

[cursive crypt]

I didn't like chalice in ward haven

[gritty anvil]

it really suck himeka doesnt have ward

[brisk adder]

im literally using it in the cup

[gritty anvil]

it would really fits her

especially into ward haven it would make a lot of sense

would be harder to remove

and could bully for more turns as banish

wait

[cursive crypt]

Well with her shitty stat line I actually assumed himeka had ward

[gritty anvil]

well thing about chalice

[cursive crypt]

But I guess she doesnt

[gritty anvil]

its still better sometimes than himeka

so its weird

to replacing

[cursive crypt]

Chalice is a bit of a waste to use when you have stuff on the board

[wild gale]

I guess it's supposed to be used as a worse rage of serpent without any enemy units on field?

[gritty anvil]

also himeko gonna have what max 2 crests ? in haven or 3 if u play marwyn

[wild gale]

[cursive crypt]

And ward haven loves to have stuff on the board

[gritty anvil]

himeka

[cursive crypt]

2 is good enough most of the time though

[gritty anvil]

oh ye thats one advantage i guess she doesnt blow your board

but she has restriction on 4 attack or less

and crests

u would need to use SEVO

to set them

on 4 or less

[cursive crypt]

Yea too many restrictions for no reason really

I wonder if himeka crest goes first or grimnir

[gritty anvil]

abyss gonna hate himeka lol

[cursive crypt]

Cause himeka can clear Amalia if grimnir goes first

With only 2 crests

[gritty anvil]

oh u mean if u superevo her

but ye in ward haven she make sense

because if u put her behind wards

well she gonna kee aoeing your board

enemies board

[cursive crypt]

They better start releasing good cards soon man

So far this set is mediocre

[gritty anvil]

i mean true so far there are any crazy stuff

arent

meanwhile evolved set

we already knew

odin and gildaria

gonna be retarded op

but again not all legos are out

yet

[brisk adder]

where can i see the english reveals

im just getting those shit from reddit

[fading echo]

the official english twitter

[brisk adder]

like instant

the official english is slow af

[fading echo]

instant only if people translate it

classic japan the rest of the world is second class

abyss cleaning the streets

[unkempt lava]

It's stupid how rune can heal so much

Deal like 35 dmg or something as agro abyss too

[brisk adder]

fucking nerf the healing

[mystic tartan]

i just triple odin a guy

[umbral seal]

Assuming you have normal evo available, triple odin is exactly 20 damage.

[mystic tartan]

yeah i have 1 normal

bro thought he could heal with that portal mech

[fading echo]

he alt f4 fuck these rune players

[mystic tartan]

DOUBLE ZIRCONIA FOR THE WIN

[umbral seal]

4 days, 30k pts left

RALLY, TROOPS

[warped granite]

https://tenor.com/view/omgbruh-corey-harris-omg-bruh-zoom-court-gif-2693074222613527227

[mystic tartan]

yeah its no way

lul

[mystic tartan]

its against Rune

[umbral seal]

Well, there would be a way if a few more fellas were above 10k pts

It's just me at 13k & abe at 20k

[mystic tartan]

yeah need to recruit some degen

[umbral seal]

What's funny is that I don't even play that much. After I hit diamond, I just do dailies and log off

[mystic tartan]

[warped granite]

Horses cut into my card time

[blissful olive]

gonna be funny seeing a bunch of emerald grand masters

cause once u rank up ur group doesnt change anymore

[mystic tartan]

bruh

[blissful olive]

honestly the way ranking works in this game is really stupid

[mystic tartan]

i rather sapphire then

[blissful olive]

lol

[wild gale]

Wait really?

Wtf

[mystic tartan]

Diamond got too many good player

[umbral seal]

People love saying this, especially you, but there aren't even that many emerald masters. Group distribution is heavily slanted toward ruby players.

That is the average.

[blissful olive]

it doesnt matter

[mystic tartan]

yeah i never match emerald master

its topaz

at most

[blissful olive]

the fact that u can be the lowest group but be M or GM is very odd in of itself

[umbral seal]

I agree, but that's the way Cygames wants to run things, to cater to casuals/bad players.

[blissful olive]

since hitting master in this game isnt about skill or anything its just time

id prefer them doing something more traditional

like hit X rank get Y rewards per season

[brisk adder]

waiting for weekend tourney

[blissful olive]

oh fucking hell

i forgot yeah

i dont wanna stay up till 7am man shit

they should run it twice a day ffs or all day even

goofy ahh dev's

[fading echo]

who combos the combo player

[blissful olive]

monka

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1361796918342193243/1409037191258181744/IMG_7098.png?ex=68abeba5&is=68aa9a25&hm=f172e009dc1e2f5d1b90b9aa3414f957a39df0ba3c995d56db4fc3648fb2c616&

zamn

[red plover]

I would have went for Master if it didnt take like 400 games to get there for me

[fading echo]

i didn't mulligan those two serpents

and then this guy got fucking destroyed

full gamble

[umbral seal]

400 isn't a lot, though.

[red plover]

well I guess I meant to say 400 wins, not sure if you can see your total matches somewhere

if I have around a 50% winrate then thats 800 matches which is a lot for me

[blissful olive]

on loses u get like 10-20ish

[umbral seal]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/1myp40y/runecraft_legendary_reveal/

Personally, not impressed by the Rune reveals so far but it's probably meant for a deck that does not exist yet.

As neither this nor Novice Engineer fit into SB or ER.

Both cards would fit some sort of creature-focused Rune control deck.

[blissful olive]

its kinda weird yeah

if they dont give u a complete deck to run that archetype then idk what the point is

[umbral seal]

Setting up cards for another expansion

Not the first time they've done that

They did it all the time in SV1

[blissful olive]

i know but its not good enough honestly

like this is the 2nd time they potentially did this for next set

[umbral seal]

They're still adding cards for a control forest deck that is not ranked viable

[blissful olive]

this and faith

[umbral seal]

Sham-Nacha will be good on release

That is not comparable

[blissful olive]

having her effect only work after u play 10 mode cards

like we need a lot of support to make this work

a lot of the time the game can be over before that will happen

[umbral seal]

I thought her effect gave you a 2nd mode as soon as you play her. Maybe that's my misunderstanding.

[blissful olive]

u mean if u play 2 ?

[umbral seal]

The only mode card that I don't think is good without Sham-Nacha is Rulynye

The ones Abyss currently have and the spell that was revealed are good without her

[blissful olive]

yeah she doesnt fit well cause medusa olivia and etc exist

the only thing i can think of is taking out undying soldier cause shes far better than that

but 1 cost more

this is wording a little confusingly

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/736156831432572992/1409078280619036672/image.png?ex=68ac11e9&is=68aac069&hm=ae7970e0b4afb0eecf0890a77357b2d134fa5f8da50dff8285830154b581cb38&

reduce faith by 10 to give 2nd modes

faith starts at 0

[umbral seal]

Yeah, it's poorly worded but my understanding is that it's not saying "get to 10 faith to unlock a 2nd mode"

Because if that's the case, I don't think Abyss-mode will be good

[blissful olive]

in the clip they showed it was at 9 then then once it hit 10 it went to 0 iirc

https://vxtwitter.com/shadowversegame/status/1958497953489760448

Shadowverse: Worlds Beyond (@shadowversegame)

Build up Sham-Nacha, Heir to Entwining's faith value to activate a powerful ability!

#ShadowverseWB https://t.co/rXjrN96PYb

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Aug 21, 2025, 11:54 AM

yeah they built 10 played a 2nd sham it went to 0

then ginsex got 2 modes

so i think its a build and spend situation here

[umbral seal]

Oh, I see. Your faith counter starts just by having her in the deck.

And she only reduces it by 10 if you have 10

[blissful olive]

seems kinda weird ngl

i heard faith only goes up from playing mode cards

[umbral seal]

I understand that part.

[blissful olive]

thats why i was saying we would need hella support to make this good

[wild gale]

So it's like hearthstone's choose 1 mechanic

[umbral seal]

But now that I understand how it works, this kinda sucks for Rulenye because no matter how much support is given to this deck, I don't see a situation where you can ramp to 10 faith, drop sham-nacha and then play Ruly on 7

[blissful olive]

yeah

[umbral seal]

This basically feels like a control deck and even if spellboost is nuked from orbit with nerfs

I still can't see this being very good

[blissful olive]

ruly tho by herself is still good but in most cases u would pick the summon 2 copies of her mode

but we'll see im not 2 uhh hopeful right now for that stuff

[umbral seal]

I'd be mostly experimenting with Abyss anyway since that's my favorite class right now after retiring Sword

(probably might still test loot sword if I'm getting clapped on ladder)

[blissful olive]

yeah idk i feel like abyss is gonna be in a weird spot

if this doesnt work out and the deck is mostly the same im gonna be a bit let down

[umbral seal]

If the mode deck turns out to be mediocre, midrange & aggro are still going to be good

Especially aggro, after seeing that new 3 drop they got

[blissful olive]

yeah hopefully theres decent support for that in the set as well

or if they went all in on faith

my biggest wtf so far tho is haven really

they are not looking great rn

[true abyss]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/1myp40y/runecraft_legendary_reveal/

So bad

[wild gale]

Played against rune and got fucked by coc with 2 dclimbs

2 Anne and greas and 2 kuons to stall

You can't win sometimes

Actually 3 annes

Force of nature ass game

[true abyss]

It can't be just me right?

[wild gale]

Another fucking dogshit rune game

0 gildaria

Only 1 fucking Albert while the rune draws everything

[brisk adder]

2-1 right now

im destroying rune fucks

[wild gale]

Honestly I misplayed for one match

Could have been 3-1

My sword has gotten rusty

[wild gale]

Wanna play one quick match with me once you're done

[brisk adder]

ok

[wild gale]

Wait are you done already

[cursive crypt]

Looks pretty good to me bro

Not as good as current rune legendaries but it's definitely playable

[wild gale]

Man I just got cucked by rune legends

Truly devious ass class

[true abyss]

How?

What's the point of lowering the cost of your minions by 3 after 9 mana

[wild gale]

Just don't get dclimb transformed into the stupid spell and you can clear all enemy minions for free

But yeah no one is going to play this just because of the chance to fuck up dclimb

[true abyss]

You don't play dclimb with that

[wild gale]

That's why no one is playing it

[true abyss]

Rune already has enough board clears

[wild gale]

Dclimb > creature cost reduction

[true abyss]

You play it for the -3 cost

[wild gale]

Like kuncussion said it's probably setting up a future archetype

[true abyss]

Which I don't get why you would play it

[true abyss]

That's the only hope

[brisk adder]

3-1 first time

[wild gale]

I wish cygames releases archetype support though

[wild gale]

GG

[brisk adder]

i didnt match vs the portal

so lucky

[true abyss]

Surely they aren't like all other card devs who are known to abandon weird archetypes

[cursive crypt]

If you look at it from another pov, it's like fennie but not dogshit

[wild gale]

At guild lounge rn

Join

[brisk adder]

im waiting this to finish

[cursive crypt]

Were probably gonna have rune decks with mostly minions

[brisk adder]

yeah wait for me

[wild gale]

Forfeit and fuck off

Speeds up the process

You get all the rewards if you played at least 2 matches

[cursive crypt]

Ye u can drop out

And gives u exact same rewards as long as you've played 2 matches

[true abyss]

Lets see how it will compare

[wild gale]

Come come

[brisk adder]

i will not

i want my rewards

[wild gale]

Dude

Read what we just typed

You get all the rewards if you drop out rn

[brisk adder]

broooo

this is my first 3-1

you lie

[wild gale]

Not 4-0

Get your ass over here boy

[wild gale]

Bro is stalling for fun

[brisk adder]

im socializing with some femboy here

[wild gale]

It's a fatass otaku

Now come on

[true abyss]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/1myr7ez/new_havencraft_abysscraft_gold/

[wild gale]

I can use my feet girl avatar too

[true abyss]

Abyss getting another disgustingly strong card

[wild gale]

Now get on

[true abyss]

I might just switch to abyss

[mystic tartan]

yeah mode abyss is getting there

[brisk adder]

good ass awards

[wild gale]

You get 3500 vials if you 4-0 btw

Anyway get on

[brisk adder]

im in the louge now bastard

[brisk adder]

im fucking happy with that

this is the reason

im just getting bullied

😭

[brisk adder]

weekly done?

[cursive crypt]

I 4-0'd for the first time ever just in time for the next set

[wild gale]

Yeah

Thanks

I got a 10 pack

No leader ticket though

Fucking ass 10 pack

[brisk adder]

https://tenor.com/view/scorsese-absolute-cinema-meme-gif-9523375912274476782

[cursive crypt]

Stop lying

[brisk adder]

bullied me and i got nothing

[cursive crypt]

10 pack from park?

[wild gale]

Why would I need to lie

[wild gale]

The last time I also got 10 pack

[brisk adder]

thats alot of yum yum

[wild gale]

And got my leader ticket from that

[brisk adder]

show

[cursive crypt]

Wtf

Admin account actually

[wild gale]

Didn't you see that I maxed out feet girl

Fuck

I thought I could have gotten titania

[cursive crypt]

[wild gale]

Didn't need that dogshit avatar

[cursive crypt]

I got only one ticket and it was Titania

[brisk adder]

i want the galm avatar next set

i dont like the old man

[wild gale]

Anyway I have 30 pulls saved for new set now

Maybe I get something decent

Maybe not

This set doesn't seem to have any big game changers so far

[cursive crypt]

Same I only got 13k rupies but by the time set releases it'd be 15k

Yeah new set seems ass ngl

[brisk adder]

i have 8k right now

[cursive crypt]

Reverse power creep

[wild gale]

Anne and grea should have only been released with this 3rd set

[cursive crypt]

Anne grea still the best rune card after 2 new sets

[brisk adder]

that card is broken

why the fuck rune has a priest playstyle

and haven is fucking dog water

[cursive crypt]

Imagine if salefa's fanfare and evolve ability is swapped

Would be S+ tier card

[brisk adder]

the only shit ward haven counters is fucking roach

and i rarely see roaches

i only see fucking sword in my ladder

and fucking abyss

[cursive crypt]

Yeah those 2 classes are most popular

I think rune is just trailing behind them

[brisk adder]

yeah

[cursive crypt]

Tbh it makes sense since in sword and abyss you mostly play shit on curve

Honestly sword matchup won't be so bad for haven if not for gildaria

[brisk adder]

i play against a heavy heal haven

and i cant do shit

even i have 3 supa gildaria doesnt do shit

[cursive crypt]

That deck loses to everything else tho

If they play 3 vessel and the 5/7 then yea it's prob hard for sword to win past turn 8

[wild gale]

Honestly if ward haven plays on curve sword has to eat a bit of damage

But if sword ever gets 20 rally haven is beyond cooked

[cursive crypt]

Ward haven is the best deck if you can curve 5-6-7-8 every game man

Even rune has trouble clearing

[wild gale]

Exodia ass deck