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Ward Haven can't beat Rune if the Rune player has an average draw, i.e. at least 1 dclimb by turn 5-7.
And personally, my Rune list runs 3 William's and 2 FoC so the ward haven player literally needs significant storm damage to win.
from my matches its like 40/60 against rune and 15/85 against aggro abyss
feels so good
2 william vs 2 sevo aether

no point to sevo aether vs rune honestly
might as well do it for some face damage somewhere
Extremely unlikely. Portal came during the 7th set in SV1 and the fact that Abyss was combined from Shadow & Blood does not make me think they have any interest in making a new class.
I think it's the new event thingu
yea
I think ill give the game another set, If I dont feel it probably quit or play extremely casual
this game is quite simple compared to something like magic
but that also is some of its appeal i guess
no idea about magic, closest thing I played is hs
and like 1 month of sv1
dont remeber anything about it tho
Hybrid puppet af looking good
Abyss player got mega tilted 
Beat forest too 
Beat a haven too so far only lost to dragon but i played greedy trying to rush him down forgot dragon has the second best healing after rune 
Feels good to fuck forest with aggro abgss
guy musta bricked how can u not clear a victoria lol
Sucks it still can't kill rune infinite healing 
But not a lot can kill a class that heals for 36
If you play forest rune only has 20hp 
Very bad match up for ward haven
Rune goes back from 1 hp to 17 hp
What a fun balanced class
Climbed back thanks to abyss players putting themselves in lethal range 
I'm only really losing to rune scum gonna change the deck a bit later though needs more firepower 
The sneaky 8 damage odin 
art is not even good too
What if every 4th set you get an additional free pack for login?
I shoulda picked kuon bro
I can't find matches cause I'm pretty sure 70% of players are team fennie
i picked zwei so i found my daily at least
Team fennie is easy to bully af
fuck i shoudlve picked zwei kek
i picked zwei kekw
wait what u mean find daily
how u guys cant find matches dafuq
i have them instant
Daily key match
what
whats daily key match
where i can see it
hehe i kinda destroy ppl with storm haven
wtf is that
i just aggro abyss it up
dont ask me lul
It's your daily quest
That gives you a key at battle tables

its the same daily as usual but with the faction illustrations, i think you already played it
but how i know how it looks like
or how i trigger it
can i see anywhere i already finish it today ?
hmm we might have talked across each other, I meant the usual battle park daily and it's easy to find match as team zwei
what i dont get it
why would it be hard to find it as anyone else
all 3 should be easy to find matches
fenniege
nah just look at reddit
i think i save legendary pack for next set
someone 7 minute
ye
battle at table ?
u pick kuon ?
oh
getting match up
i get it now
ok that make sense
so there is no tournament this weekened
its replaced by this event
ye they kinda fucked up with this event they didnt use brain lol
fennie and zwei not that huge a difference in numbers from what I see
kuon is far below though
WAJAJA
fennie will win though
lul
do we need to play all our games at park tables?
we cant play ranked or anything?
park should look like this all the time
its so much better
the floor in general just looks so much better
lol i have like 80% winrate with puppets in this event
im being tempted again
70m behind is crazy
His lips is too kissable
it really looks like AI

im nasty wit it
mirrors are the worst 
What is a delegate draw ticket
for the 2nd round of the event
100 people from each team go the finale and represent their teams
2nd round actually matters more than the first though 
not in this context
zwei cant beat fennie its 2 far gone
if your delegates win a lot then they can easily still win the event
last i checked they were 90m ahead idk what it is now
the amount doesnt matter, just the percentage
ive accepted my fate on team zwei
but we get rewards either way so it dont matter
im halfway done the solo part now at least gonna take a break
if zwei gets a good amount of delegate wins then they win
so in the end its most likely which team will get better players wins
just gotta 
Wtf
How does dragon drop 2 cards that cost 6 without using the legendary that halves cost?
They have another cost reduction bullshit that i don't know about?
did they use the dragon storm shit before hand
the spell reduces
see i knew fennie gonna win so i pick zwei 
I kinda want kuon to win now so everyone would get mad 
do u think its possible puppets gets in next expansion crest that turn puppets into permanent ?
for like certain amount of turns
if it was permanent crest that would be too broken
sounds pretty strong 
yea nah i dont think thats happening
if it is it would have to be a card that is more dogshit than fennie
the way fennie is actually nuts tho
Fennie is garbage wdym nuts
i think dragon gonna get more card draws in next expansion
like actual good card draws
Idk they need a ramp card that is not liu feng that's for sure
thats too
No this is still nuts bro imagine this with Noah or that 3 cost puppet spell
It has to be higher than 7 cost and hence will not be played anyway
ye but u usually gonna trade
with those puppets anyways
well if they have something on board
like its really strong effect but i dont think its that broken
maybe im wrong
Ok then tell me how many classes can clear orchis easily when the 3/3 stays behind

cerberus maybe
abyss
actually maybe not
ginsetsu
haven can wipe it
vessel or jeanne
forest cant
Ginsetsu is turn 9 man
sword gildaria
coin
Just have coin lol
just coin 
i mean its strong but not unbeatable
Gildaria needs another one or two drop as well
So basically only haven can clear consistently 
I don't expect the devs to make other classes strong only rune and sword 
orchis needs to be stronger shes not good enough 
kuon should give storm to all his minions on 7
but at that point u dont need 10 cost on him 
We could get cards and they could be playable but the real broken shit goes for those 2 we get scraps
At least that's my perception when you go to the collection and compare class strengths
Everyone is around the same then rune and sword are full of bullshit
You know I just realised what the fennie team art reminds me of
It's the ojou sama laughing style
All paths lead to extinction 
Pretty lucky. I'm just saving keys, personally. Next set in 2 weeks
Surprised I haven't seen teasers yet
Yeah, that makes the most sense at this point
300 pts and im done solo stuff
good event tbh had a fun time
screwed around with weird decks too cause why not
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I was locked in a week ago. However, anyone who hasn't picked a team yet should expect long queue times if you pick Fennie.
Lol grapplr been enjoying going to the weeb darkside
this weekend
we dont get weekend lobby tournament for this

well there are a lot of freebies i aint complaining
yeah we get 1 lego pack too
Save that for the next set.
Must be aggro
In this event I played puppet just to roleplay zwei but it coincidentally matches up well with all the aggrobyss I faced

At least get legendary ticket pack
its crazy how they tie a lot of spellboosts to units tbh
If anything, they're likely to nerf her spellboosting. Rune needs a strong turn 5 stabilizer. I don't have an issue with her evo effect nor her summon.
Cygames' goal should be to make Rune more vulnerable to aggro (less healing) and more dependent on actual spells for spellboosting.
You think if cygames gives 30-40 tickets on the new card set. Players will return?
There is not a significant enough dip in player numbers for them to even consider that.
You present that question as if the game is dying when zero evidence supports that. Any player dip you see now is consistent with most online games post-launch.
maybe he just wants free shit 
Sure, we all do. But he presented his question as if "30-40 tickets" is something Cygames is even considering. They are not.
I'm always realistic about my expectations.
Best thing is these dirty abussy players never expect it
yeah lmao
i yoink his evolved bat
WAJAJA
Well, the thing is, even if they do expect it, it's hard to play around
Like aggro abyss can't really play around it in most situations. Sword has an easier time.
My guys
I didn't even need to ask for advice
I got all the tickets for feet girl anyway
If you pull 250 times you can get a free ticket
just pull 250 times 
im still debating spending 24 packs to get my ticket
probably gonna wait n see how big next set is cause i only got 60 packs saved rn
I have 20 packs saved

dats ruff
saving was easy this time cause set only had 77 cards
but if next set is like 100+ then idk
pre sure current set was considered a mini set
Yeah I got my orchid that way
Man piloting aggro abyss is pretty sweet
yeah then after this
next one is in october
at least the pack counts dont go away so i can grab that ticket whenever
Omen of the powercreep
we need a hero to knock rune off its throne
That's not happening without nerfs and I don't think a balance patch is coming since if Cygames thought the win & play rate of sb rune was too much, they would've nerfed it already. We already have evidence for that (spawn of abyss patch notes)
i just did my 2500 and called it basically
idc about getting delegate tickets
oh
so theres no weekend tourney this week ig
at least these rewards are guaranteed 
zwei is the better one but people cant japan cant help themselves
What are the delegate tickets for?
2nd round of the event
so tmr sometime ppl are getting picked to play
Fennie's art is better. I don't care about puppet value.
and basically ur wins are worth more
And so do a lot of other people.
its lowkey a comeback mechanic
but it doesnt matter atp
since we got scammed outa a tourney guess i can log off
i actually faced a lot of dragons there
out of around 50 ish games i played more sword than anything
mostly sword and rune
watch all the fennie players lose in the 2nd round 
its so sad that puppets only 4 drop is fighter 
i hope abyss gets a strong 4 drop
same
too bad u need 350
for leader

bro i hate that the free daily pull not count into pity

its such a greedy choice
it would still take most of the year just to get 1 pity
Abyss already has 3 very competitive 4 drops.
Hops is more correct because all I run for 4 in puppets is divine thunder
we have mukan but u gotta evo him in most cases
🤦🏾♂️ This argument again
Honestly explains why the most common error I see in low rated players is saving evos for shadowverse 3
ceres is there but shes not really a problem card
i didnt say anything about using evo
have u never dropped mukan just to use his effect ?
Mukan is a very valuable card whether he's evolved or not.
have a ghost in hand from ghastly etc
Oftentimes, when I play in lobbies, I'll see players who could easily press a tempo advantage just by spending an evo and they choose not to
And it loses them the game

it depends
for mukan thats not the case cause hes basically just a kill spell but u wanna play around board wipes and not just dump everything
I'm not just speaking about Mukan, I'm speaking in general
why when i play vs haven i dont just flood the board cause i know salefa is coming
It's something I notice a lot, but only when playing players significantly lower rated
Basically never in ranked.
Well, yes, not overextending into a power turn is different
These players are not doing that
evo's are also important if i can clear a board and be + without doing so its better
5 & 8 are the most common power turns
one of the most common things i do now tho is turn 5 evo charon to use orhtrus or phil
lol abyss is already good enough no pls
we need all the help we can get to defeat rune
yo i got it
cranial extraction lets go
i just saved shadowverse you can thank me later
if u really hate rune just spam aggro mid abyss is also ok vs rune
Bro this event is so short, how am I supposed to get so many points in just 4 days
Aggro Abyss vs Rune is honestly a 60/40 match-up when it should be 70/30
Like they're favored but they can still easily lose
if only Rune didnt have Norman
id say it used to be a decent MU into rune but with their new shit its a lot harder

ye its like 60/40 but still thats pretty good odds
I logged in today, didn't have time last 2 days, I need like a thousand plus points
wintrade 
this event should have dailies


Just
or 2k if u dont care about the ticket
What's the ticket for
yeah wont even bother with the delegates ticket
2nd round
i got 4 tickets 
just need 1
ur wins worth more etc etc
i need 1 ticket to get 5 keys
in 4 days GP start ?
yes
hmm
im probably Runing it up
i might try puppets in GP not sure yet
thats the safest bet
man i would play puppets but u literally need to pray hard
to play that deck
to get the right cards
i won my GP last time but i got lucky with sword

if bricked no Orchis its literally joever
grinding the event today
so u get more consistently orchis
I wouldn't say that. You need to run a decent amount of draw + 3 odin's so you have reach even without Orchis.
well now its slightly more consistent becaues of odins
puppet is fun but clearly lacking
yeah honestly it depends on the matchup
once i match against rune
in this event i was destroying ppl with puppets but u playing vs bad ppl
bro just heal heal heal
aswell
u basically depend on having a good early game or u just ded

Printing baphomet for puppets would solve a lot of problems but that'd probably be too strong.
if puppets gets strong 4 drop next set it might be really high tier in meta
give us super lloyd

yeah shes stupid strong
yeah she borderline almost lego 
she def could be a lego honestly
Not something I generally want to do but I have done it occasionally. Usually if I need a few more followers for rally 20
i wish we could also see ur opponents rally count
so u could guess whether or not glid could be coming down
im having fun yoinking
You can. It's in battle stats in the combat log
Yes.
How many matches does it take to get 2k points
theres an extra tab for it
It tracks their current rally count
just for sword
I use it all the time
40 if u lose
nvm
ye if u for example have like 2 gildaria on hand and u close to 20 rally its fine to do
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Wait, this is actually just a waste of time then. 100 delegates out of thousands? Yeah, pass.
I'll get one ticket and call it a day
yeah u dont need to grind them
if there was more rewards like gold after 2500 id still play but this is a waste
event was good ya but i dont like how they removed lobby tourney for it
cant hand out too many rewards at once after all 
surely
This is their logic unironically
ye why they removed lobby tourney ? isnt that in different location ?
their logic
but then u look at horse game
handing out 100s of dollars worth of shit cause why not
Horse game also has a higher spending ceiling
Maybe that's why
Also another event that favours faster decks
😴
Yeah, the devs already made the calculation of how many freebies they need to give out to keep the hamsters (see: players) on the wheel
Sv getting less freebies simply means they know they don't need to give out much to keep us logging in
its not a bad game either but i just dont care for simulators i need combat or something
And they're correct
i cant believe new set is like same day as poe still man
thats so gay

last epoch on 21st too might try season 3 for a week
I have no interest in poe 2 until further notice.
new league is still always fun
bruh why u wait till end of week lol
No time

I just do every weekly except for that one instead 
Some one come to guild
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cant believe it's almost 1 month since the mini expansion

gg lol
Good time to remind fellas to not get your hopes up for a balance patch
all I care about is getting more haven cards 
Someone ping me when they log in 
Yeah im looking forward to new cards I don't expect a balance patch
All said and done the balance is not TOO egregious I think
Certainly there has been worse metas in the world of children's card games
Any more healings given to rune though, I might want to cut my losses

Yeah buzzard was the real trouble I member
Was it draw for every minion killed?
Or your own minion dying
I think it's your own minion dying so it's broken with the dogs
Nah, it was draw on beast summon
Didn't have to sacrifice the dogs first
Basically punished you for going wide. Hunter's Mark for any tall unit
Rest in piss

Got 1.2k points
Blizzard thought it was balanced
Implying Blizzard thinks is giving them too much credit
my puppet deck is so stupid
we're on turn 500 he can't kill me i can't kill him until orchis comes out
How is that abyss so passive
You used 0 evos
He used 2
And you're at full hp
The hell happened
i think he's mid range abyss because i saw cerb come out
if only all these puppets became a bunch of cute zweis but dragoncucks won 
i think point dif is 200k so there's no way zwei comes back from that
amount doesnt matter, it gets converted into a percentage
Idk the process, reps are selected from each team and then something happens
Puppet shield is bait, honestly.
Show me your puppet list.
orchis showed up this time 
i don't even remember when i made this but looks pretty bad 
looks like a normal puppet list just the maid and darkside need to go lol
Not running divine thunder is a mistake. Valse cooks you. Intimidate does as well unless you have Sylvia
10k gold and 25k vails
@warped granite lol I was playing on my phone so I didn't check discord
@true abyss I mean
Still need weekly?
Darkside, definitely. I assume the Cheretta is there as anti Albert tech but I don't think it's worth it as a 1 of
I complete it, thanks to you, you didn't even notice, i played SB to fuck with you 
It is what it is
You conceded the moment i dropped my 2nd kuon 
I'm about to drive home. I can just link you my list in a sec.
I was actually thinking to concede every time I fight a rune so I don't waste time 
cool thanks 
@true abyss you play dragon?
Only aggro
Is beyond 2k points even worth?
yeah i did that
what's the aggro dragon deck? 
no
2500 right?
thats only if you want a ticket
@fading echo
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Does ticket give any meta progression?
Nope
its only for the event
I feel archim has insane potential
There was a point where I cut Zwei entirely and only had Achim as my 5 drop. He performed significantly better on turn 5
I added in 2 more Zwei's only because she's still good at preserving evo's
Even if I think she sucks overall
only thing id change here prob is ruby for phil
looks good
Ruby is there to cycle through your deck faster, in addition to the other draw in the deck.
Phildau is a very good card, but very unnecessary in puppets because they already excel at removal
i can change some stuff around what i have and make something pretty similar i only have 1 olivia so i'll replace the second one with a grimnir
I would craft a 2nd olivia simply because 2 olivia's fit in a lot of decks. I'd honestly add a 3rd ruby if I didn't have a 2nd olivia.
Grimnir doesn't make sense in puppets. Doesn't make sense in anything besides ward haven and sword, imo.
i'm low on vials because i made so many decks in set 2 but i'm actually going through my decks and cutting off some of them
dont craft it then next set is in 2 weeks save ur resources
like i have all of these and the only deck really missing cards is haven because i only have 1 wilbert 
but i crafted sword and rune so that's why i'm low
i got pretty lucky on cards so far 
4.5k 
then ya lol dont craft anything atp
Vails?
3.5k but if i liquefy dupes 13k
thats prob enough to finish ur main deck for next set just sit on that
yeah i really like portal and forest thankfully forest is cheap
sword and rune are easier to play on mobile because requires less micro so i'll keep what i can have out of those two
i think i'm gonna give up on dragon and haven though
their decks are pretty legendary-heavy to keep up
at least forest and aggro abyss are pretty cheap so i can keep those two and drop either sword or rune
yeah haven is really expensive for how bad it is lmao
im really hoping they get something
they're pretty good after late game and they're all set up but it's pretty hard to get there
once they have a board full of 10hp+ wards with aura and start dropping jeannes it's gg only orchis and a hand full of puppets can clear that 
haven is good if the game goes like super long but other than that lol
yeah i always keep odin versus ward haven because when you odin wilbert it's pretty much over for them
Alright 2k grinded (ground?)
Unlike some of you bitches I repped the correct leader
Zwei puppets

@umbral seal can you show me your aggro abyss list? 
how do you use the winged servants spell you combo them with aryll or just use them raw for board fodder?
both
There's zero chance your opponent is going to leave Aryll alive if they have the chance to kill her.
If it's your only turn 2 play, play it
If you have beryl and the bats, play beryl first, obviously
Why are people saving dupes?
I see
yeah also let's say you get a premium for a card that you don't use
if you have dupes you can destroy the premium for more vials instead
I always liquify all premiums
i don't like that they don't stack on the deck list but i don't mind them 
Except coc
You can make them stack with an option i think
In filters
No, because more often than not, you do not have a board by turn 7 or your opponent is already dead
Reina is not good in general
I think team Zwei can still win
If their delegates come 1st, and Fenni comes last, they definitely win
Right now, if things remain constant
Fennie has 49 points
Zwei has 36 points
Kuon has 17 points
If Zwei delegates come first they'll get +30 = 66, Fennie needs to come last to lose (+10 = 59)
Kuon can't win in any scenario

Good.
in a way it's like we all already won since kuon can't win 
But to be clear, if Kuon comes first with delegates, Fennie wins automatically?
i added 2 bonemancers to fill the cards i don't have for your deck and had lethal because her trash survived aragavy 
Bonemancer isn't bad. I would've added a 3rd excella in your situation, though
i can still add her since i'm missing two just run 1 bonemancer
oh actually i'm missing 3
If that happens, and current ratio remains the same
Fennie last (best case scenario for Zwei) = 59 points
Zwei second= 56 points
Kuon first= 47 points
i added a medusa too since cerberus would be bricked super evo
So basically Zwei delegates need to be 1st
arent you forgetting that every delegate win gives another point for the team
Oh wait
If forgot that
How many matches are there in the finals
In b4 kuon wins
they still can, but its pretty unlikely 
devs gonna rig the event and give team kuon all the master diamond players 
It says if I participate in finals I get 5 keys, do you need to be selected for that?
would make sense
since everybody not in the finale cant really participate I think 
unless just applying counts
yeah u need to get selected
so its literally useless

unless ur gigalucky
2 many agents on zwei they gonna throw
random
0.00001 increase to 0.00002 
cant be bothered to grind out all these fest matches so Im just using a suicide deck instead 
medusa in aggro dafuq
@gritty anvil has leveled up! (88 ➜ 89)
ye
cut medusa bonemancer apollo and add 3 soiree
also not fan of olivia i would add second charon
perfect starting hand 
what are u playing in haven
lol
dying as fast as possible for fest points
ye, usually you have no damage that early, so its an easy 3 or 4 turn match
i woould rather play aggro blood not only u can k*s but u also can kill fast
that requires learning another deck and since Im already doing this I cant be bothered to do that 
maybe Ill try another class when the next set comes out 
@red plover lmao i just met guy who was doing that haven thing u doing for fast games
wasnt that u ?
wtf im bugged in floor i cant move
wajaja
nice 
also i found out how to get the shadowverse 2 background i saw
gotta play shadowverse 1 and pull a card
i'm gonna try that later 
Did anyone of you get picked
i dont even enter lul
i told u man
rune always wins
but at least fennie didnt win lol
the way the event works tho is pretty ass they gotta re think that
rune always wins
Say it ain't so
What's the point of the fucking fest points then
dev's favorite class
too many jnoobs on team ho chan bro
changes depending on region apparently in china zwei won
so what the fuck is cygames even doing
this event is actually a joke
it should be the same across every region
ya they gotta re think this shit next time
It's funny too that the villain won, the only thing worse is if it's Norman instead of kuon
Or daria
the worst art too lol
had a feeling they were gonna win 
?????
Wrf
Wtf
I'm a rune player
I didn't want kuon to win
Wtcf
Literally rigged
https://old.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/1msqfog/after_this_complete_fiasco_of_an_event_what_i/ 
Holy overreaction 
its not rigged
its just the game awards
audience votes
10%
"critics" votes
90%
Yeah we're just unlucky with the fennie bozos
votes just arent weighed heavy enough
having this phase is fine if it at most was like 10% maybe 15%
but fennie in NA had like 60%+ or something
in terms of actual points for phase1
and kuon was sub 20%
there is no reason that phase 3 should be allowed to undo 40%
phase 3 should be a bonus thing that can swing at most 10 to 15% ifor somewhat close matchups
and 10-15 would be like
one group going flawless
and the other group going reverse flawless
the election was rigged!
man this is like the worst timeline
so far we had what 3 or 4 events and nothing sick happens classic japanese devs
what do you mean you dont like mindless grind ranked and require ranked wins events
lmao
BRUH I DONT EVEN RUN FORESIGHT ON RUNE
ITS DOGSHIT

DIRT DRAW IS BETTER

the rune players need to make sure everyone hates them as if playing agaisnt rune wasn't enough to achieve that
wtf why kuon won
its rigged 
they give u the least wanted one
so u could swipe for the others
typical Cygames

second part gave a hell of a lot more points than we expected i guess
that 300 players decide the game
bruh
just convenient for cygames that the least desired card was the card everyone gets for free so i guess people will have to buy those other too
how its more its still lowest
just another coincidence
it's funny how they're lucky that the both most wanted cosmetics will have to be sold to people now
very lucky company 
wait did i miss aplication period ?
oh its cus Kuon win
on the finale match
they give 30 points
to the winner
WTF

also Zwei 2nd got 10 points
Fennie got 0 
did i miss that key reward ?
COPIUM
who knows they picked the most random ass japanese hours too
so it was 3 or 4 am for me
the japanese devs
Yes
only care about the japanese
everything is catered to them
so fuck you 6 am entry time
In chyna zwei won
Hop on hate train
its just poorly thought
yep
and every spellboost on legs being
i mean forsight is played
like spellboost 2 and 3
forsensight
Not in any current lists
was already powercrept
u can spellboost with AnG and Kuon anyway
what
i literally play it in most popular list
its 1 mana draw one right
People play the dirt 1mana draw one no?
pascale
lmao
The most popular hybrid lists dont play insight last i checked
cauldron and that
But its been like a month
pascale ? nah i delete that shit













yeah that's better

