#Shadowverse
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Always been consistent and will remain that way for the foreseeable future.
So long as cygames keeps giving Sword insane value cards
Asking for abyss buffs in the current meta is either trolling or baiting. Possibly both.
Abyss needs beryl to be 10/10
instead of dealing 3 just make her heal 5

Still playing Blaze Destroyers as SB Rune is incorrect at this point
ye, he had 2 0 mana Dclimbs at turn 7, he had to use both of them cus of my pressure 
Yeah, d-climbing early is basically never a good sign because you want to save them for turn 10 combos
It's usually desperation when that happens
he would have lost if he didn't, ER vs SB, ER needs to pressure as much as possible, which i did 
btw how rare is the ticket drop?
Definitely less than 1%
Opening 250 packs is much easier than hoping to get an exchange ticket naturally
also you cant get a ticket from login bonus
i think i should start to save for the aug end exp
yes unless u wanna dump money
thats why i save so early and hoard vials
i can already make any deck that comes out from next month
TIL this evo can make your temp artifacts you summon from shit, not temp 
well i started pretty late, i had just been rippin, ill start tomorrow onwards, ill have to stick to my ER and SB rune till next epansion
i spent like 150 or so on base set to get going then once i make the decks i want i start saving
im lucky this was a 77 card set
question, which pack should i use my daily pack on? i am missing a ton of base set cards
if next is like 150 that'l be rough
if they stuck to like 70-100 cards or something thatd be great
gold and lego
for older sets if u need the cards is craft them
i wouldnt open old packs personally but w/e is optimal for ur situation
this guy ccant play anymore 
the strat is to open packs from the set that you have the most cards on
so you can get dupes and craft whatever you want
rather than getting random shit you will never play
but if you just want every card you should def open the base set
ic ic
yeah just open packs from a set until you have all the bronze and silver cards
and craft everything else
its a lot better
unless you wanna play a lot of decks in which case you wont care about which packs you open anyway
This shit is evil wtf
wtf did u craft grimnir
yeah i just crafted 2, fuck it i wanna play haven
based
deserved for sword 
that guy even did the amelia luminous mage combo 
sword deserves to be at the lowest for once
so real
nicole reeyn from genshin looks like haven leader
Yo I do that too
Too bad Alice stole all her attention
master today ?
1 hour grind with abyss aggro
ill hit master just to help more guild
but after that I think ill just wait take two
puppets without drawing orchis
even after using draw cards
truly dogshit experience

queued into arti portal
got first too
unfortunately my skill level is too high
im so glad odin has storm
otherwise it would be a 7pp do nothing card 😬
i guess having a banish that can interact with artifacts as well as followers
counts a do nothing these days
Yooo poggers
Damn I just killed a sword in 3 attacks (2 from forte), sorry not sorry
No luminous mage? NOW YOU DIE
without magus sword actually cant function lowkey
not a single serene
i just lost to sodcraft bro jesus
not a single griffon, not a single featherfall, not a single agnes, not a single serene
HMMMMM
not a single avian statue as well
all my birds are gone
Haven complaining about not having storm
i'm literally playing storm haven without the storm bro
salefa haven
maybe haven is really bullshit
i don't know how i survive 10 turns without anything
i'm just clearing board for 10 turns
holy saber
u trying to mulligan for her
and when i go for SB rune
like what can i do except uninstall the game
its every round
you tilt every day bro 
lol
ive been through every deck today
nothing works
and i'm not tilting i'm legit close to just quitting
its dragging my mental down way too much
is that your picture
no
oh
lol
this card is so bad
going 2nd when your opponent bricks is too funny 
get roached idiot 
Your mistake was that you didn't go second

The person with two coins always has the option to play super aggressively
pog
lol

i got premium odin yesterday
Only missing 1 more legendary and I have full collection of the new xpac
I'm only missing the 5 mana abyss legendary
Rest I have everything at least 1 of
u spend money ?
I bought the starter bundle
oh wow premium neptune
And the 2 euro for 20 packs thing
So a total of like
Around 22? Euros I think
Somewhere around that
But I've been insanely lucky lol
I only started playing a week before the new xpac and I already had a meta deck

It's crazy, I started this game bcs Kaori looked hot, and the game literally gave me 3 dclimbs 1 cocytus and 2 kuons as my first couple legendaries
And then my first new xpac legendaries were also rune

Born2rune
oh u mean full collection
like 77 cards ?
what u guys think about this list ?
full on card draw dragon
well there is no seraphic
i could add that too
but i guess that card sucks atleast dragon spell have heal on overflow
i saw someone play the 2 cost girl that draws 2 instead of golden melody
filene is kinda goated 2 cost
thats the combo wombo
u make her 0 so u can combo it with any super evo
twilight dragon turn can draw u 5 cards
i think draw engine is very important for this deck
not only it ensure on 8 fennie
but after if u draw a lot u win the game
but dingdong
can be 2 draws
thats op
also wards buy u time
for aoe
i agree with draconic
i could run 2
btw this deck early game
is already solid
should not be that hard survive
i can cut ruby
maybe
because ruby technically isnt card draw
but
u can shuffle back
genesis
which is huge
thats the combo
i like ruby more than ding dong in that deck yeah
u want genesis to cost 5
just cut one of the 2 drops
not 10
so if u accidently draw him
u can shuffle him back
but dude i need to craft 3 fennie foe this deck i dont know about that lol
would u keep this 1/1 dragon ?
with rush
so cut dingdong and 1/1 rush dragons ?
ur not playing it on turn 1
u dont know if theyre aggro or not on turn 1 xd
i would never keep it in mukligan
u get push too hard
too ass
what u think now
maybe this deck dont need odin tho
i dont know
but just too good not to run
do u have burnite
run 2 of her imo
instead of odin ?
wdym odin is also 7 cost lol
dw merman clears her \
No.
he doesnt run filene bro
into ward
He should. I've played against dragon players who still run Burnite and they lost. Do you know why?
Because they're reducing their own card advantage
honestly atleast 1 burnite
make sense in this deck
for that evo
that does dmg every turn
it might be important in some match ups
Not worth a super evo point in most match ups.
to get on reach of genesis face
So that's irrelevant.
The biggest issue with that effect is that it doesn't proc off of every heal. Just the first one that an opponent does per turn.
kaori IS crazy hot
burnite damage is fake af 99% of the time
Running a 1-of Burnite is not going to help you in control match ups but if you're that insistent that you're correct, feel free to run it and report back

what u mean fake
Not like I haven't been right dozens of times
shes a good aoe clear though
both crazy and hot that is
its crazy that this is unwinnable lol
Nope, she's bad and before this expansion, she'd often come 1 turn too late against match ups like Sword. The merman and draconic strike fix that
Which is why she does not exist in my ramp deck
the crest wouldnt matter in 99% of games
But also, not running 3x Filene in ramp right now is self-grief
yea cause filene is just better and cheaper
im just giving him an alternative
i really think apiollo is mandatory with how much aggro abyss/sword are on the ladder though
ok fuck it i keep it this way
yep gg lol
did your ass heal back to full?
wait i drew my goat
it should be easy after
btw i think u really cant concede
if u see no chest
and u concede
i think u might to see it ?
not see it
if chest is already there and u leave the game its fine
its still stay there
but if chest about to appear and u concede early u dont see it next game ?
i dont know if it work like that
i really think this card is underrated
i swap to sword for the one time ofc its a mirror
because in worst case its still 2 drop
more and more people running that card
i played vs two today and one of them ran it
wait actually no i saw her single time
early
during new set
but ye ruby is really good in this deck
pre fennie and post fennie
Do you think people should run one copy of coc in deck?
lol
Real cock hours
well i think
going 2nd is broken
1 copy of cock
is fine
its more win card
1 copy actually make sense kinda
because if u sometimes dont draw your genesises or they heal enough
u basically cant win
like vs rune
genesis can get blocked so hard
Yeah coc can be discounted and then you can use your draws 
cockytus would be good there
nah coc sucks cause of anti synergy with fennie
i played vs a dumbass that played 2 fennies
and then coc

arent you aa3 or something
but vs rune it can be good
thats normal
u have twilight drakes man
they only have 3 normans
twilight drake does
As soon as you hit aa0, you're going to face master players along with aa players
not a fan of coc but looks good yeah
i prolly gonna craft fennie
btw if i had grimnirs i prolly run them in this deck
idk about grimnir tbh
sounds like ur doin a bit too much
the only decks i like grimnir in are haven and sword
ye these 2 benefits him a lot
but he can have uses in others
if u dropping on board akward followers
like fennnie
or cock
and super evo them
he cover aoe for that turn
Grimnir serves no purpose in Dragon. There's a reason he's only seen in Haven & Sword.
The first one: ward bitch. The 2nd: can cheat out additional super evo'd followers
You'd rather run grimnirs instead of running 3 draconic strikes
Gotta be trolling
that 2 aoe shit is not clearing anything past turn 4 man
haven has jeanne and salefa
so they will do additional 2 damage as well
well im not gonna craft him anyways
Nah coc is for when you exhaust all your genesis

if you played 3 genesis and u didnt win i think its a brain issue 
this just make me wanna scoop tbh lol
sword just hate me good hand challenge impossible
lmao
liufeng is kinda ass maybe thats why
No one using garyu anymore?
nope
That's surprising
not now
garyu needs sevo
kap
he is a bit hard tio clear if you play sword
i think 2 liu fengs is fine
but he sucks cause he needs evo point
na man u need 3
as dogshit as liu feng is
its ramp
yea
but ye this is classic cock deck was working pretty ok for me

Hmmm
u can clear this board easily no ?
hes gonna draw albert right now
Yeah
gildaria busted i always need to think about it how to make oponent turn akward if they play her
doesnt matter lol
u know u can preevo aragavy vs her right
and than they play valse lol
actually that doesnt even work
they just trade
2/2
basically something need to have 7 hp
to survive gildaria
dragonic berserker preevo
actually works
6/7
even survive walse
valse
but dies to bane 
weak, fighter preevo is 7/7 
ye thats the thing its impossible to play around all cards
they just gonna have good trade
no matter what almost
big money situation
its crazy that hybrid spellboost and ER is actually one of the best decks
they manage to pull it off
norman is only reason to run it hybrid
and onion covers spellboost enough
Removed the 6 cost heal for 5. It was too slow. Added another grim and the 1 cost removal spell
divine guard is op yeah
Lapis? In this meta? Good one.
lapis is better than griffin
It's not. Griffin, if set up, will get off damage when you play him. Lapis is just banish bait at this point
Show me a high lvl haven list that still runs Lapis
Tried lapis. Never had a turn to place her down
wdym set up look at his deck
Griffin you can setup kill easier and earlier
his best bet is he has a serene down or a tiger that late into it
I did. You might be the one who cannot read
He's also telling you Lapis is bad
But surely, you're the only one who's correct
🤡
lapis is still good
Lapis is too slow. On her initial turn she's a do nothing
odin doesnt matter its not like hes always in their hand 100% of the time
or nobody would even play wilbert
Wilbert's crest is not part of his last words
u cant argue a maybe
2nd odin is a better lapis
maybe they got it? just dont play they'' might'' win
Even if they don't have it, Lapis is still significantly slower than Griffin
Which the person who plays the deck is literally telling you
As am I, because I've also played Haven
yes as have i and lapis having the crest does way more
than a fucking shitty griffin
and only 1 DG is still trolling lol
Odin the lapis. She's no value

Griffin you can kill on the turn it's placed
Lapis cannot do that
how
You aren't going to win late game vs rune
Just have them in mulligan 
oh brother lol
one darkhaven for grifon
isnt that the whole gameplan
its also a curve fixer if you get it early and some drip sustain
if u want griffin u have to run it lowkey
Tried dark haven. It clogs the board
Rather setup with either tiger, grace or dose for griffin
its still ur best amulet over the course of the game
or if it goes late thats when haven is actually good
spicies playing new list
but i cant tell what the ratios of low end are
cuz his image fucking sucks
i honestly like ding dong more than shield maiden
how the fuck am i supposed to read this
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thats literally
what he has on screen
its fucking cancer
100 vial chest

holy
i found the list
1 quick blader
basado
i think the took out the 1 of 2/2 ward neutral tho
@umbral seal what u think ?
You're not winning late vs rune 
how good is rose even
unless its ER no
is she worth playing
cause nothing beats hades d shift
Shield maiden to force out more crap
no ding dong is fine cause u have serenes imo
id rather have wards with power
maiden crusher etc
grim
ye if rune gets into late game they do what they want
throwing crusher down turn 2-3 can hard stop aggro
Crusher for the call to arms at 7 cost
unless they want to trade an entire board into it
rune dont have many weaknesses rn
It counters oliva double evolution
mainly talking about abyss cause its mostly 1/1s
its good vs aggro midrange and control
combo decks too
do u run rose in your deck NBA
btw i think prim
is bait
shes not that great
Your 1 of's don't really make sense to me. If you're going to run Grimnir, run 2 so you have better odds of drawing him reliably. Don't agree with 0 copies of Olivia. Seria is good but Prim is better unless you're running into a lot of aggro. If anything is going to be a 3 of between Amalia and Jeno, it should be Jeno. Magus doesn't need to be a 3 of.
thing is even if u draw him late game its still fine
because u get vallue out of it from gildaria
oh ye olivia
i forgot about her
hmm i should run 3 olivia
in sword ?
yes
thats weird
because she even combo well
with rush bane
but i guess its still turn 7 play
-1 seria +1 odin
magus 100% needs to be 3
its 4 bodies
for rally
and magus is just insane card its so much stats
for such low cost
7/9 for 5 mana with wards
magus ?
yes
yurias is good if u cleared the board prior
if they have existing bodies u cant drop him
yurius is pretty shit. im just trying it for roach matchup
aggro
for reach. esp against rune
its a good 1 pf
the hea is unironically sometimes necessary against abyss too
blah blah zirconia
u just lose the game
? no
how u kill her
idk why you focus souch on clearing anne and grea. besides usually u can just valse it
u need phil atp

lol
if this was any other class maybe but sword when take 6
it cant never be healed
well olivia
but thats it
they get close to lethal
on 10
or if they chain kuons
and they also run now that earth rite 8 drop
that gonna hit u face evetually
odin too
some list runs
I literally have my nest winrate against rune
then any other class
it literalky does no matter
im not saying u lose always lol
but those situationas can happen
i wanna try aggro forest but im not gonna craft 3 tits
phildau is dead card. legit only time i miss it. is If i have nothing on board against turn 4 zirconia evo. and i mean literally nothing
phildau
still thats 7k vials
u need 3 aria though
i only have 17k left atm
is just not necessary
yea not worth it then if you have no tits
ye
@teal rain why no hounds ?
no space.
i rather have the other cards
hounds is a full on control card. if i wanted to play full control i would go play abyss
wait i missing something why it say i have 39 cards i have all same cards as u in deck dafuq
what im missing ?
1 yurius
Ok everyone and their mother have odin. And every single time it's when i played albert
i dont think yurius is good btw, i just really struggle against roach and am trying to find way to counter it lol
u dont counter roach
glade
there is no counter
vs roach u need more aggresive list i guess
1 drop storms
playing against roach is praying i hit amelia magus rn, hitting face and playing board is so pointless
none of their early shit matters that much so i basically never trade vs forest
just hit face
make them trade
buddy, those wards dont matter, board flood doesnt matter
its really just hoping to force glade and amelia magus
*bayle
but ye try to add centaur and pray u survive till albert turn maybe 1 of centaur is fine
ye amubsh from above is such a dumb card
why decide to give them more wide clear
legit roach is only stopped by player skill not cards
any ways fuck portal players
will never not feel good to blow up back to back Orchis and their mech to win
portal is actually hard this season, why i switched from it to brainlet sword
No, it doesn't. I have consistently been diamond master with a list that runs 2 magus, I have over 500 ranked wins with sword in that mmr.
You literally have no idea what you are talking about
But that's normal for you
Puppet aggro just has so much clear value if they draw puppet lancer
3 magus is over kill tbh

ye
magus + emelia is cancer

@teal rain cant grimnir help vs sword because if u super evo odin u clear all the fairies
*vs forest
Abyss aggro needs a buff
it doesnt matter
no abyss is fine as it is rn
puppets die next turn tho
Doesn't mean shit if they die from clearing my board
dont dump your whole hand vs puppets then?
or count how many they have in hand
thats what i do
i want abyss to get an aggro lego
You kinda have to when you're playing aggro 
not really
????
puppets vs aggro is really rough
if you know you are playing into puppets bait them out with shit
puppet will kill you if u dont pressure
unironically, they have a lot of storm dmg increase jsut from odin now
u cant expect aggro abyss beat everything lol
artifact still light years better but puppets is def better now
but i drew pretty ass that game
I'm getting fucked by my counters

Carried by topdecks
imo i think puppets better but thats might because i counter arti
problem is puppet has shitty reach as usual when they run out of evos, so they lose to most control decks anyways
aggro decks biggest advantage is games are fast
Yeah puppet gets hard fucked by rune
even with average winrate

u still climbing much faster
yeah puppets can run out of gas and healing really hurts them
than slow decks
Well, not in the mirror. Gildaria clears it cleanly. It can still help against Rune & Forest but even Forest has some tools now to deal with it
That 2 mana spell specifically
depends
if u chain orchis u can win
Huh, thought it was two.
Guess it's more aids than I remember
no argrav bleak
magus + amelia is a meme now 
i just play lymaga and lock their board
and kill them next turn
forest just is too strong in tall and wide clear, kinda like rune
Not really. It still works in several match-ups and can still cook Forest depending on what they have.
It's just not as auto win as it used to be.
im surprised to see people still running divine thunder
DT is good
well yea its not just as good as it was
Divine Thunder is a tech card that sees play depending on what's popular
i think its a little slow and if you have to use it youre behind
lymaga lowkey carrying forest rn vs rune and sword
It's not a bad card but if tournaments had side boards, you'd always keep Divine Thunder as a tech card
Because it's situational
sword ?
yea i agree
itd be cool to have side boards but i think in 3 deck tourneys youre just gunna run the same deck but with DT or something else in it if its possible
why was abysmal acting like its almost impossible to win
im pretty sure i have like a 10% winrate against roach lmaooo
It's not. What abe said is correct. It's a pretty even match up.
lol
playing against roach is just hoping they dont have clear when you combo a big board
pretty much thats it
its about damage mit
unfortunately they clear quite often
yes, but you still die on 19-20 by turn 8-9 pretty often
nah before turn 5 sword can easily do some chip damage
what sword could use now is another 1 drop
prob next month i bet its coming
they just need some chip damage before t5, play some garbage storm card like odin and forest is already in albert lethal range
forest now doesnt really gain hp or have ward
should not be a card that'll be in every portal deck till the end of time
deepwood forest
forest can heal tho
but they save it for otk

one measly heal so you can do 2 less damage seems fair
i legit just hate lily, they would actually need to burn some resources to kill a tall due without her
lily is indeed a cock
forest needs her tho
yes doesnt mean i need to like it

yea but he needs an evo lily can set to 1 for just a combo
just play lymaga
You place lymaga on board and don't attack right
thats like 5 damage lol
if u are that low on turn 8 they arent gonna play amelia magus
just gonna kill you with odin
quickblade is going first vs forest is important right
its guarantee 2 face dmg
i guess they can bug alert it
its 2 damage vs anyone that isnt rune
well turn 2 they can remove it yeah
dont think any sane forest player will ever remove quickblade turn 1 anyway
not worth it
Yeah
i mean that 2 face dmg can matter
i would rather lose than not being able to win
actually wait lets do math 2 face dmg early 5 from albert on 5 another 5 from albert on 6 7 on 7 from odin thats still one off
and they can also heal
thing is if you play fairy convocation and coin fairy just so quickblade doesnt do 1 extra damage
u have nothing to play next turn lol
Bayle and deal more face damage to sword
letting a 1/1 with storm stay on the board is regarded
Problem solved
you always trade and take control of board
yea but not on turn 1
what are they playing on turn 2 the rush guy? like lol
either that or the ambush girl
if i ignore the quickblade and save coin
next turn i can fairy fairy may
so much better
arent aggro decks hard for forest ?
like dragon and abyss
depends
they are at least playable
ward haven if they super evo aether u actually cant win
well aggro dragon version i use destroy forest







