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#Shadowverse
true abyss
When she works she is amazing, I have at least one guy every day try to destroy her with an effect, they end up playing odin just as a 4/2 storm 
hazy lily
WHO CARES
chilly viper
in deck preview
true abyss
He used to be a LoR streamer
hazy lily
true abyss
I burn all the premium cards if i can
chilly viper
hehe
true abyss
You are pretty screwed if you don't draw her in the rune mirror
true abyss
Especially screwed if your opponent is SB
warped granite
He used to be a LoR streamer
a lot of LoR guys are moving to SV
true abyss
Because they have dclimb and you don't
warped granite
grapplr (sic?) too
true abyss
Ye
true abyss
When you both have her, it becomes a race
hazy lily
warped granite
it hurts me that i dont know if you are facing SB or ER
true abyss
Ye you win more likely
warped granite
SB rune shouldnt have access to that much earth rite
hazy lily
bro that was the first time
that i had kuon as a finisher
ever
guess we secured saph for now
true abyss
Welcome to the rune side
hazy lily
the thing is
with rune and portal
you have more options
SC feels a bit clunky sometimes for me
forest has many options too
my anne and grea whale sleeves carry me
warped granite
i seriously hate how someone on the dev team clearly has a boner for runecraft, i said fuck runecraft 10x today probably
true abyss
i seriously hate how someone on the dev team clearly has a boner for runecraft, ...
You misspelt portal artifact
warped granite
thats not wrong, i hate that deck so much i queued up rune today
bored that shit out of that poor sod
i still have 2 evos and he has nothing and im still at 19
rune gaming
true abyss
@warped granite btw what's alans list
warped granite
hazy lily
that almost master guy btw
dont know that you cant sylvia lilanthim
that tells you everything
omg i won that
top deck odin
no fucking way
true abyss
dont know that you cant sylvia lilanthim
SEE I TOLD YOU THAT IT HAPPENS ONCE A DAY AT LEAST
fiery pulsar
Remember guys you cant ff if you want chests to spwan
gritty anvil
hmm after playing bunch of artifact portal games its really not that strong
gritty anvil
i feel like if that deck not get allouhette on curve
hazy lily
life support
gritty anvil
it loses game
gritty anvil
ye puppets have much better early game
they just need to draw orchises and they usually good
hazy lily
puppet is just waaaay easier to pilot
hazy lily
stall for orchis and win
gritty anvil
odin actually helped puppet deck a lot
in artifact portal odin doesnt even really fit
hazy lily
helped alotta archetypes
ER odin feels really good too
just won the abyss aggro game cuz of him
hazy lily
and norman double heal tbf LOL
gritty anvil
only thing ER lacks now is aoe
if they get next set some kind of aoe they good
u can play grimnir i guess
but thats only 2 dmg
gritty anvil
hmm thats only 4
thats still not enough
ER needs aoe follower that deal aoe based on your sigils
that would be really good
hazy lily
actually no i think that was control or midrange
cuz phildau
but yeah that hand of mine was nasty
hazy lily
yea exactly
gritty anvil
u would lose
hazy lily
i had alotta draw in hand tho
hazy lily
looks like control
warped granite
elvemage lost (again) in e7 finding solace in shadowverse 
hazy lily
obvsly when i play norman
he has medusa right
obvsly
ye lost
medusa is lilanthim hardcounter
cant do anything
hazy lily
do i do it
no way he otk's right
lets gamble
yup
kekW
yoooooo
ER DIAMOND BOYS
blissful olive
gay
hazy lily
ER mirror
he won
motherfucker
drew lilanthim
on that whole streak to diamond ive once had a lilanthim
once
against sword
no 4 drop
and board full
so unfair
i swear
into diamond and right into the loss streak
chilly viper
stop playing
gritty anvil
ok i learned one thing vs rune face artifact does literally nothing
no poiint even creating that
unless its for gundam as last
fading echo
I learned that versus rune i should just ff and go next
fading echo
Saves more time than going to turn 10 and getting satan+dimension'd
hazy lily
time to take a break for today
10k pts per day is enough to hit master this week
see alot of SB andys running lilianthim
gritty anvil
lmao i love when rune players coin cockytus and than climb and they have no mana for astaroth 
warped granite
man i got such an unlucky streak 5 games no anne grea turn 5 
apparently rune can brick too
true abyss
lmao i love when rune players coin cockytus and than climb and they have no mana...
Still a great turn most of the time tho
gritty anvil
well but he was dead turn after i think he just misplayed he though he had 10 mana still
he wanted to do combo
man artifact mirror is so stupid i dont even know how to play mirror
gritty anvil
first norman pog
fading echo
swordcuck absolutely obliterated
fading echo
another one gone 
fading echo
she wasn't supposed to be in that deck but since i have only one odin i threw some cerbs and medusas in there 
it's based on the new tier 0 abyss deck
first pic bugged out 
gritty anvil
just craft odins its good future proof craft
really dont use cerberuses in aggro
cerb is for midrange or control
there is small chance odin gonna be ever bad
he can get even better
if they start printing more last word strong stuff
i remember odin in sv 1 was also played for quite long time and he was much worse than we have in sv 2
umbral seal
i remember odin in sv 1 was also played for quite long time and he was much wor...
8 cost 4/3 that banished any target. Very good for control decks but that's all.
This version of Odin is so good every deck is running him
And I don't think that's a good thing
silver tide
thats because
they gave him fucking storm
while reducing his cost by 1
odin went from a "if your deck has no banish/artifact interaction you need to pay a premium for the neutral"
to everyone gets centaur centurion on crack
gritty anvil
hes almost forte dmg
silver tide
if you want to understand the gap in power level
sv1's last expansion was the 32nd or something
cursive crypt
@chilly viper someone cooked the ronavero grimnir cheese deck
i dont have 3 grimnirs so i cant play this 
chilly viper
<@402027995021443073> someone cooked the ronavero grimnir cheese deck <:LULE:966...
this is not even cheese man
idk i don't see the value that much
cursive crypt
you auto win vs sword and forest if you have the combo lol
and feather fall now does 5
aoe
chilly viper
hmm
cursive crypt
jeanne can also clear 8 hp enemies
its actually insane cheese cause nobody is putting divine thunder in their decks now
cursive crypt
bro its one super evo point to do 2 aoe every turn
chilly viper
you auto win vs sword and forest if you have the combo lol
bro idk
given i rarely meet sword (i don't think i have met forest in my elo this season), i don't see much value
cursive crypt
wut
chilly viper
ruby elo
cursive crypt
i swear sword is like half the people i play vs
sword and abyss is probably 70% of ladder
chilly viper
ok let's check matc h history
chilly viper
haven, rune, sword, dragon, portal, portal, portal, rune, dragon, sword, portal, dragon, dragon, abyss
i mean yea a fair chunk i guess
chilly viper
what card can abyss clear ronavero with
cursive crypt
nothing
chilly viper
probably aragavy
cursive crypt
ginsetsu i guess
u buff ronavero with dark haven tho
and he will be out of range
chilly viper
ok hmm
but portal they gonna play artifact alpha
is there anything else
wait not alpha, gamma
chilly viper
also yea i don't have grimnir
chilly viper
fucking turn 9 lol
cursive crypt
yea too bad i also dont have grimnir or i'd be spamming this
i can craft 2 grimnir but im gonna open like 100 more packs eventually for this set
chilly viper
abe do you play runeterra
cursive crypt
i played in alpha
chilly viper
do you know about teemo
chilly viper
he can hit u but u can't hit him with regular units
u have to hit him with someone that also has camouflage i think
or something like that
chilly viper
yea that's the word
cursive crypt
thats different than stealth tho
chilly viper
yea different
but he's the reason why i need cards that deal with him
because u never know if you're going to face teemo
and i really don't wanna see this ambush shit becoming meta
i'm gonna have even less fun
cursive crypt
haven is never gonna be meta
unless its s+ tier
quite a niche class to begin with
and if it does then people will probably add divine thunder in their deck
chilly viper
what does lygma do again
cursive crypt
she makes 2 units not able to attack
chilly viper
oh shit
cursive crypt
its useful vs rune and sword tbh when they do their barrier thingy
buys you a turn
chilly viper
insanely cheap deck though
but forest always cheap anyway
i thought you're a titania simp
cursive crypt
im not playing aria anymore so i cut her
i think the aggro list runs her
i would craft the aggro list but im missing the 4pp gold card
and im not spending 2.3k vials to craft gold cards lol
silver tide
the gold drop rate is like fucked
i missing playsets of some new golds
meanwhile
like 12 copies of the stupid dragon spell
umbral seal
blissful olive
not bad
primal isle
<@402027995021443073> someone cooked the ronavero grimnir cheese deck <:LULE:966...
I'm guessing you super evo rom and boost him up so you perpetually have grimnir damage
cursive crypt
I'm guessing you super evo rom and boost him up so you perpetually have grimnir ...
Yeah
He's just gonna chill on your board and get bigger and bigger while doing 2 aoe per turn
umbral seal
Am I allowed to call myself a sword pro yet? 
@warped granite @wild gale If y'all want, y'all can encourage the guild to play soccer & other activities in the lounge ๐
wild gale
No one playing soccer
blissful olive
guild lounge lowkey dead dead
umbral seal
Well, the problem is that besides weekly reset, there's no real game-related reason to go to the lounge
blissful olive
real
i like the park tho
i want that event
think its mid august where we pick teams
silver tide
odin is like
so fucking stupid
as much as i like aggro i dont think every class t7 banish sevo face 7
is good
umbral seal
Otherwise why would you not just play ranked?
I mean, that's exactly what I do.
silver tide
for the game
hazy lily
climbed to dia group with ER yesterday, kunc
after losing a bunch of SC
ER feels pretty good atm tbh. lots of options to deal with stuff
sagelight really helps with that
won more games cuz of norman and odin than lilanthim tho
umbral seal
Once you're around sapphire, it's not too difficult to get to diamond if you can manage a winstreak even with a lower tier deck. (evidenced by me getting to diamond last season with ramp dragon)
Staying in diamond is the real challenge
Since your winrate has to consistently be rather high or you fall out pretty quick
Staying around sapphire mmr feels super easy in comparison
hazy lily
hard carry in some matches
umbral seal
Yeah, perfumer is very good. Better than edelweiss imo.
wild gale
Are you guys playing aggro or mid range SC
blissful olive
but sc mid range rn wild
blissful olive
yeah honestly aggro SC is dead rn
wild gale
yeah honestly aggro SC is dead rn
I dropped to emerald with it
We get fucked by everything 
blissful olive
only aggro deck worth a damn rn id say is abyss and forest
wild gale
Chip damage not enough against all the heals
blissful olive
puppet lowkey too kinda
they got a lot of early power
i made the new puppet deck it kinda good
umbral seal
Are you guys playing aggro or mid range SC
I have only ever played midrange sword. You've been playing the weaker deck this entire time.
Probably why clowns like you & axa love to downplay sword
blissful olive
odin my beloved
silver tide
i love 4 fucking copies of centaur
umbral seal
yt strimmer was pretty consistent with a more aggro focused SC deck tho
Contrary to popular belief, even aggro decks have decisions to make that can decide whether you win or lose. And it's not just at the mull phase
Do I think aggro decks are hard to play? No, but there's still going to be a difference between a lower tier player and someone more experienced
blissful olive
theres minimal thinking required usually it boils down to if u need to trade or not
wild gale
Aggro sword was very good before this set released though
hazy lily
my matches against aggro abyss usually go like: tank the first rounds, clear board, play norman and heal twice
watch them concede
umbral seal
Aggro sword was very good before this set released though
It was still weaker than midrange
Now the gap has widened considerably
Especially if your aggro deck is not running Gildaria
Personally, I think running Gildaria kinda disqualifies a deck from being called aggro but if you don't run her, you're going to lose way more often
umbral seal
I run grimnir in my midrange list, yes
wild gale
I hate artifact
umbral seal
For max board clear against artifact
I don't know why you fellas act like artifact is the big boogeyman of ranked. This really must be some low mmr shit
This is a skill issue.
hazy lily
helps against many more matchups tho
ward haven is a good example too
when they aether their board for 20 hp
umbral seal
Actually, let's double check what my last 20 games were today
I don't think I faced a single portal player today
silver tide
gild is just zirconia on crack
aka one that isnt shit if you dont draw and play exaclty on 4
umbral seal
umbral seal
Actually, I haven't played a single portal player at all today in ranked. The only ones were in unranked and private lobby
The class is fine.
silver tide
does hybrid even play climb still
umbral seal
does hybrid even play climb still
No.
hazy lily
kinda sad that we didnt get magisa, levi or chimera for ER
warped granite
yeah honestly aggro SC is dead rn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQHyEwuUAzM dunno this guy has 70%+ wr. But he might be player carried not deck carried
silver tide
thats not even aggro is it
i guess centaur ravenous
idk
i basically copied that and took out phil and bladers for nonja and ame
warped granite
no jeno no amalia i'd put it on the aggro side of the spectrum
silver tide
or a similar variant
umbral seal
I wanna bley midrange sword but I don't have any albert or yurius or odin
Yurius is not required
umbral seal
also it's funny that his chat also bitches about rune
The only class where the bitching is warranted imo
warped granite
i got bitched by yurius earlier today when playing face drag 
hope you enjoy losing all other matchups albert boy
PJSalt
umbral seal
I swapped out my Ravenings for Yurius only because Forest players started showing up again
hazy lily
prolly gonna see alot more from now on
when ppl start to get over their honeymoon-phase
unkempt lava
Having success with this deck now. The storm amulet version, you cannot set up in this meta
hazy lily
we almost at same rp
hazy lily
agnes as a card is pretty cool imo
primal isle
yea I like her
cursive crypt
Need more 5 cost or higher op permanent amulet
nah that would suck
fiery pulsar
Oh yea
cursive crypt
cause it will be odined
unkempt lava
Only one that's out for haven that's above 5 cost is the boardwipe
wild gale
CAN A BROTHA GET A ROACH
Roach bottom classique
cursive crypt
my staff gets odined all the time
fiery pulsar
Nah roach is fine
cursive crypt
it means nothing to me anymore
fiery pulsar
Ward haven is a meme
hazy lily
the thing is
whatelse to banish in forest
there isnt anything that stays on the board
cursive crypt
The 2nd god can stop bricking my hand
nah u have a card now that discards whatever u want for free
cursive crypt
in case my staff gets odined
fiery pulsar
Yea that fuse card is wild
unkempt lava
Ward haven isn't a meme. It's a meme when you get ramped by dragon or otk by rune
Anything else it's legit
cursive crypt
its ass bro
fiery pulsar
Nah
cursive crypt
your only good matchup is forest
fiery pulsar
Its bad
cursive crypt
the rest is either 50/50 or unplayable
silver tide
you need puppet cuz theres a lot of aggro swarming
fiery pulsar
Every deck has good board clear
silver tide
arti isnt as high tempo
hybrid is probably still good but you cant run pure arti without risking getting rundown
blissful olive
in new puppet
uhh
orchis is big yeah but odin is also fucking massive
and im running a 1 off of satan and hes won hella games
silver tide
Orchis is strong but Odin feels stronger cuz hes neutral
And damn in every deck
Rune not running climb but running odin is pretty funny
hazy lily
ok control abyss fucks my ass
big time
lilanthim completely useless in that matchup
control again
thats cringe as hell
warped granite
yeah abyss has p good matchup vs rune
i think the rune player has to be a very good player to win
definitely not me
hazy lily
is it time to pick up SB counter
now that everyone and their mom in diamond is playing that
cursive crypt
this guy saving evo points for shadowverse 3
wild gale
this guy saving evo points for shadowverse 3 <:kek:1092598898490613760>
What's your forest list now
cursive crypt
What's your forest list now
i honestly wanna cut fairy tamer entirely and just run the 2/2
blissful olive
she give so many body tho the thing
but she is just a 1/1 tho
u could run fairy fencer yeah
wild gale
I hate fairy tamer
true abyss
I opened this legendary today
gritty anvil
so close finishing this
gritty anvil
is fencer good ?
cursive crypt
is fencer good ?
honestly its 50/50 in roach deck lol, i dont hate uit but sometimes fairy tamer gives u more value
gritty anvil
lymaga actually good ?
better than olivia
?
still running 3 staff with 2 that draw spell lol
cursive crypt
olivia is useless cause u have garden's allure
3 staffs is mandatory though
you can discard unwanted staffs/glades wth the spell
if you draw too many
gritty anvil
do u lose to abyss aggro ?
cursive crypt
they're favored but if you have mays and ambush u can win easily
gritty anvil
ye ambush seems really good
btw ward haven isnt even that common anymore
there are some but not many
silver tide
they get soloed by the neutral lego that everyone is running
blissful olive
odin my king
warped granite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-bsC49TPlY sword vs ER rune scrim if anyones interested
umbral seal
I dunno who those fellas are
warped granite
idk the rune guy but spicies is a sword pro player, he was the one behind kagemitsu aggro
you can consider this like pro players with (close to) optimal plays trying to verify matchup %
umbral seal
I mean, I'm familiar with what scrims are and the purpose behind them
Although this wouldn't help me much because he's playing a version of sword that is better into rune than midrange is
warped granite
the crazy thing is it's still negative
umbral seal
the crazy thing is it's still negative <:kek:1092598898490613760>
This doesn't surprise me. I said in season 1 that Sword was favorable against Rune, and I was right. This was for both aggro and midrange. Now Rune just has too much healing + onions.
It's still possible for Sword to win but incredibly difficult.
Basically just have to board flood every turn and hope that there's a turn where Rune doesn't have an answer
blissful olive
not the onions
u can get rune to like 5 life sometimes even before turn 5-6
then its like
whoops i healed for 8 or made golems oopsies onions and u just standing there like
warped granite
although tbf he's facing earth rite which i think is better into aggro?
(not like SB is bad especially with the new hybrid decks)
blissful olive
sorry i accidently took 4 turns ina row
haha
dirt is fine vs early aggression
actually does very well
cause they have so much removal + free evos for only 2 er
umbral seal
although tbf he's facing earth rite which i think is better into aggro?
Earth Rite cards are better against aggro but if his list is the hybrid one that doesn't run dclimb, sword can out-lategame you
silver tide
why does witches brew have aura
umbral seal
All earth sigils do
umbral seal
So, Odin banishing a godwood staff or a Wilbert is one thing, because those aren't the core of a specific archetype
Letting Odin banish earth rite sigils would completely cuck ER as a whole
silver tide
but right now theres nothing to punish being able to just stack infinite runes
warped granite
Earth Rite cards are better against aggro but if his list is the hybrid one that...
i think he's facing pure ER with juno
hazy lily
its not like they win the game on their own tho
umbral seal
Rune does not stack infinite sigils, otherwise we'd be seeing a lot more Pascale's Dance tomfoolery. And also, letting Odin banish earth sigils would not fix the issue with Rune being imbalanced right now.
hazy lily
sigils and sagelight are ER's only AoE option
warped granite
Letting Odin banish earth rite sigils would completely cuck ER as a whole
yeah never gonna happen and for good reason
silver tide
i dont see much difference between this and dclimb/spellboost
as in rune being inherently noninteract ive
with their gimmick
at least climb requires you to have climb in hand
here you literally just mint sigils
warped granite
nobody likes rune except rune players and maybe forest
umbral seal
i think he's facing pure ER with juno
I wouldn't even bring pure ER to a tournament so I'm surprised that's what he's running
silver tide
the like 4 seasons from sv1 whenever rune was meta was always the worst
fucking daria flashbacks
umbral seal
That was the same meta where Dragon was strong so I didn't mind. Was basically an arms race.
wild gale
Kill rune before rune infinite values your ass out of existence
silver tide
how do you do that
when every other minion they have
thats like low cost
does enough damage to kill a low cost minion for free
so they always go 2 for 1
warped granite
season 1 rune was a meme, and then they printed the old guy who gave you free fireballs
hazy lily
levi
silver tide
does aggro abyss has a better chance
warped granite
the new hybrid rune with edelweiss is rough for aggrobyss
silver tide
actually the question i should be asking is
does rune have any bad matchups
is it actually a meme that the only bad matchup is the mirror
umbral seal
They have unfavorable match-ups. Aggro is supposed to be their bad match-up but it's not even that bad anymore.
warped granite
i guess hybrid rune loses to pure SB?
warped granite
forest should be the bad matchup
hazy lily
control abyss can be a hustle
warped granite
but for most of us there are no good forest players running around on ladder
hazy lily
tbh
warped granite
maybe @cursive crypt
warped granite
control abyss can be a hustle
true it's 50-50
hazy lily
ginsetsu really helps against kuon
warped granite
they do, too bad theyre turn 9
hazy lily
or charon and low cost follower / skeletons
warped granite
but if theyre turn 8 they'll be busted
hazy lily
everything with hella wards
wild gale
Hella wards when 9 spellboost William drops 
silver tide
hybrid doesnt even bother climbing anymore no
wild gale
unless they double dclimb
No dclimb? Skill issue 
silver tide
they just play 1 cock
hazy lily
whats the "new" hybrid deck
wild gale
hybrid doesnt even bother climbing anymore no
They can just hit you in the face hard enough that Odin is lethal
silver tide
warped granite
some lists do still play dclimb
hazy lily
i thought they just added lilanthim as alternate finisher
wild gale
i thought they just added lilanthim as alternate finisher
Yeah she pairs well with Odin
They can deal 12 damage
Or 13
warped granite
potwasher plays this, but -3 foresight +3 william https://shadowverse.gg/decks/hybrid-runecraft-tl
im ok with no william so far, meta call
hazy lily
what the
silver tide
lilianthim having aura but haven not getting aura is just a kick in the nuts for haven
how come they dont autolose their last word value to odin
wild gale
potwasher plays this, but -3 foresight +3 william https://shadowverse.gg/decks/h...
No William?
warped granite
the one potwasher uses have william in lieu of foresight, and he's the good player so maybe his list is better
but no william has been working out for me so far, cos no ward havens
blissful olive
if not will they must have the new spell right
wild gale
but no william has been working out for me so far, cos no ward havens
You can deal with sword midrange?
blissful olive
or lowkey trolling
warped granite
You can deal with sword midrange?
yeah out tempo with edelweiss
if my winrate goes down the shitter im putting william
but i like having card draws
warped granite
https://old.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/1m5wxuo/rune_is_hard_to_play_i_started_playing_it_around/ I actually found it from this guy cos im a reddit nerd he seems to be having a decent success
warped granite
sure he's not diamond, i'm not too - a lot of diamond lists I can't operate somehow, like that sword guy spicies' list I was performing really badly with but I did better with kunc's list
warped granite
that's just rune
and the guy only has +2 card draws vs the sword maybe he low-rolled 
umbral seal
sure he's not diamond, i'm not too - a lot of diamond lists I can't operate some...
Keep in mind that my decklists are almost always changing, based on what I'm facing
umbral seal
People in general should make that a habit while climbing ranked
warped granite
yeah I'm just saying I wouldn't blindly copy any master diamond deck cos the meta can be very different
warped granite
not to mention day-by-day, I think a lot of the streaky decks were made when aggrobyss was everywhere
silver tide
stream
hazy lily
that aggro dragon andy is gonna have fun
warped granite
Shadowverse wins or something?
probably the most common netdecks are from there yeah
warped granite
that aggro dragon andy is gonna have fun
god edelweiss is so busted, love it when im the one using though
hazy lily
true
silver tide
grea being played even when it spellboosts nothing
is the shit i hate the most about this games lego design
silver tide
shit thats so broken you play it outside of its archetype
warped granite
kuon can still be the wincon for earth but to be fair the free deck that gave you kuon was earth rite
blissful olive
kuon doesnt need to be SB only yeah
hes good on his own
why dirt runs AG and shit
warped granite
they play merman in aggro?
some lists do
silver tide
zirc evo that costs 1 more but doesnt actually need evo
hazy lily
that deck was weird af tho
silver tide
i saw the super greedy ramp lists
im pretty sure thats just
wrong
are you really gonna play 20 cards 7+ when aggro abyss is out for blood
hazy lily
https://old.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/1m5wxuo/rune_is_hard_to_play_i_sta...
damn that feels so weird to play
won against haven but holy
that was.. something
gritty anvil
warped granite
damn that feels so weird to play
id figure the haven matchup will be slightly more difficult without william
hazy lily
whos playing that
mystic tartan
back to topaz
bro fuckign Rune
if RNG doesnt want u to win then its joever
spellboost that is
hazy lily
most skilled archetype btw
ppl call that hard to pilot
i wonder
when the archetype is so broken that ppl dont even go for mastercraft
and craft 3 face dmg artifacts instead
diamond goes like win-lose-win-lose-win-lose
gritty anvil
ok i changed it slightly
gritty anvil
whos playing that
reina have potential tbh
gritty anvil
especially in abyss
blissful olive
yes
hazy lily
or skeletons
gritty anvil
even 2 is decent
4 u win the game prolly
reina gonna be meta one day
if they realease stuff
that gets bonuses how many times u evo
during match
but ye i run only 1 copy
because i dont want it to brick my hand
early
hazy lily
i prolly switch to control abyss again
i'm facing mostly rune in diamond and mirrors are boring as hell
blissful olive
im not convinced control abyss exists
warped granite
most skilled archetype btw
hazy lily
aggro abyss
i sleeeeep
if he hits face again hes dead next turn
oh now he plays olivia and pussy out
conceded
loser
blissful olive
hazy lily
had 2hp left
but amalia on field
and he conceded
imagine being so desperate to climb that you play such a boring deck
thats actually wild
cursive crypt
maybe <@475790499488202762>
yeah rune is still a good matchup for forest even with normans and odins running around
its not free like it was before though
they need to remove odin man literally every class i play vs i always just take 6 or 7 damage from odin
gritty anvil
i prolly switch to control abyss again
play midrange
its better
because it has much more face reach
man gildaria late game is so stupid
free super evo
is too broken
she remove entire cerberus for free
for 6 mana
and leave massive board
def one of the most broken cards this set togher with odin and norman
gritty anvil
lool haven didnt have aether on 7
only albert
easy win
i would be so fucked
because my deck have no medusa
hazy lily
oh they run yuna in midrange now
hmmmm
who said that yuna is good again?
thats right
hazy lily
she is in every midrange abyss i see on sv wins
and i said she is good so
oh wait
i had the old expansion
they dont run her LOL
makes sense cuz the new cards are better
sadly
that 2 drop
6 zombie
and the 3 2/4 rush
umbral seal
We might hit S+ by the end of this season but I don't think S++ is happening
100k pts
umbral seal
Realistically, we'd need at least 10 masters to hit S++, assuming those players hit 10k pts each
hazy lily
i have a master irl friend maybe he wants to join?
umbral seal
I hit 10k last season but I was playing way more than I'm playing now
umbral seal
i have a master irl friend maybe he wants to join?
If he wants to, lemme know and I can make some room
hazy lily
yea i'll ask him
gritty anvil
and i lost
hazy lily
classic
mystic tartan
im doing my part
lone agate
mystic tartan
lone agate
cursive crypt
I hit 10k last season but I was playing way more than I'm playing now
you will probably have way more than 10k by the end of the season anyway, since this season we both start at master
lone agate
cursive crypt
last season we got no points for hundreds of games basically
umbral seal
you will probably have way more than 10k by the end of the season anyway, since ...
Depends. I'm already getting kind of annoyed at the meta, tbh
hazy lily
well they match me with some tryhard master tournament portal andies
i try my best
but its rough
lone agate
im only tired of odins <:ReallyMad:1080459951752892457>
so all decks
cursive crypt
and every class has access to him
lone agate
cursive crypt
yeah giving odin storm was a mistake
gritty anvil
rune completely shit on abyss
unbeatable
they just keep norman and anne grea and cant lose
hazy lily
well lost
idk
ive never won a single match against puppet
@umbral seal how to win
they trade the whole game and kill you in 2 turns
and you cant keep a board up
umbral seal
I haven't faced a portal player in at least the past 20 games at this point
hazy lily
it feels straight up unfair
umbral seal
umbral seal
But I historically haven't struggled with portal either
With puppets specifically, their puppet spam generally can't keep up with your board refills but the new puppet lists are running a bit more aggro
So that Orchis has to do less legwork for lethal
cursive crypt
its just dumb to have to play around 7 damage leethal vs every single class
so boring man
cursive crypt
if you dont go wide basically odin will be free 4 damage to face
hazy lily
or artifact
umbral seal
Sword, funnily enough, has answers to Odin, which is ward spam. Orchis beats ward spam though so you kind of just have to guess
hazy lily
i'm trying some abyss oiler range
cursive crypt
yea i think sword might be the only class thats not cucked by odin
umbral seal
The annoying part is playing around both Odin & Roach
Because of course they play it too
cursive crypt
i mean everyone does
now every class just has extra cards as a finisher
on top of whatever they already have
one odin and im already almost at albert lethal range
umbral seal
That's assuming you took zero chip damage early game
umbral seal
Can't see myself playing the game for long if this is the direction they're going
But I'll see what actually pisses me off enough to leave
gritty anvil
honestly odin should have been 2/2 storm or 3/2 or give him more hp but less than 4 attack
or 5 atk with rush
or something like that
umbral seal
No, just don't give him storm. The season 1 meta already heavily revolved around needing storm finishers to be considered a top tier deck.
Doubling down on that is a choice.
umbral seal
Nope.
cursive crypt
how about no storm
i can live with rush
every class has access to face damage already
cursive crypt
thats why ruby/sapphire is the best mmr more variety
gritty anvil
kekw
warped granite
damn that feels so weird to play
if you're curious, 1 added 1 lilanthim in lieu of 1 foresight for control matchups
it paid off for me, just beat ramp drag due to lilanthim
gritty anvil
he was trying so hard
prepare jeannne
and undeath skeletons wreck him
he played odin that turn btw
wait i promoted with this win pog
warped granite
Can't see myself playing the game for long if this is the direction they're goin...
that's what happened to me in SV1 too so it looks like it will be more of the same thing here
just gonna have fun while it lasts
not the storm part per se, but the "doubling down on dubious design decisions" part
gritty anvil
honestly undeath soldier peforming pretty solid so far
i yet need to pull good reina turn
warped granite
kinda crazy how most of rune's spellboost is concentrated on a few power cards which allows them to make hybrid shit