#Shadowverse
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u dont drop it turn 3 lol
well vs aggro u should fight for board in first place
and not going mindlesssly exella face
yes u do
sure i do too but im not dropping amulet turn 3 as aggro if i can do better
well obviously u should not keep it vs aggro
u just leave insteantly right
im saving my keys for next set now
instantly
ye dont enter game
lmao
opening packs in this game is crack
holy fuck i keep gettin laura from packs
thats like 7th one
wtf
its like 10 bucks ya
yes
get the wall paper or lobby avatar this time
do u have a avatar of a leader already ?
yea
who
oh same? then get wallpaper imo
o wait a different leader?
yea
oh then id get avatar
i got 2 cerb tickets 1 for avatar then 2nd one was leader
2 cerb 1 daria and an albert
Anyone wanna have a quick match?
do i tag the guy that really wanted filene
@hazy lily 
hmm aggro dragon actually might be really good in this meta
it is but i cannot craft it 
i missing 1 more odin
i picked avatar
Mid at best.
reasons im going to kms
i dont know some guy on shadowverse wins had 15 games winstreak in diamond
maybe just lucky
starting to see how wrong we were about ward haven lol
im pretty sure aggro dragon auto lose to ward haven
unless they kill them before aether turn
it can do ok vs sword and abyss slightly but loses to everything else
which isnt really possible with salefa
i think ward haven always gonna keep in check these storm decks
include roach
it loses to 2 many MU tho sadly
and is entirely dependant on wardbert if u dont draw him u lose
well this same goes about aether no ?
if u draw wilbert
but no aether
u also fucked
?
wilbert gets odined
u need the crest
and than what
doesnt matter u just need crest
that might be not enough without aether
but i dont know
honestly
all u need vs aggro
is salefa
and u should win
aggro isnt the issue yeah
sword and abyss maybe forest is fine everything else u lose
yes
they just keep making aoe ones ?
that too but u cant contest late game
i guess ralmia wipes it easily if u create 3 aoe ones
orchis too
u just need to survive turn 7 aether
and u good
nah
but gundam have almost no chance going face
it doesnt matter
because ward always gonna have more than 5 hp
vs puppet maybe but thats a coin toss cause they have bane out the ass
what u mean it doesnt matter if u dont kill aether u get punished by jeanne u need to kill atleast 2
it doesnt matter
aether board has to live so u can jeanne and swing after
its a nothing burger most of the time
1 orchis clears ur entire board or just a few bane puppets
it really makes no diff if aether dies
how u kill entire aether board as portal on turn 7
its not like aether does anything
u cant sylvia
i dont know if u keep alive 2 things thats alreadys scary
well u can always create board
before they play aether
because aether on 7
clears only 1 thing
oh wait
karula
is really good
he can attack 2 times
haven still lacks a clear win con thats basically it
but i guess aoe artifact doesnt kill anything with 3 dmg aoe
unless u give it rish
rush
that works
ye haven basically cant win
if u keep clearing their board
unless they lapis u and u have no odin
i would never play lapis in current meta
i would play grifon instead
as finisher
make much more sense
its about free storm shes always going to be good
griffin needs amu u dont run that
but u need amulet
yes u do
u can run 1 amulet on board
u need only 4 space
i think dark haven should be fine in ward haven
but run max 2 copies
because second u never gonna play
if u play only 1 u never gonna draw it
and classic u play vessels draw ones
winning hand
haven auto loses to medusa too never really thought of that till now
beta artifact 
dude i finally got an odin and now im winning even harder
im even beating sword and abyss aggros

bros think they gonna aggro the rune player
and then i drop norman evo into odin super evo
but yea this odin card
norman is broken lol
he is really good yea
rune still loses to aggro tho
unless you go full earth rite
but then you lose to any sort of late game deck like haven
hybrid is best but even then you're not favored in aggro
odin helps a shitton
idk what they thought when they designed this
its top 3 best legendaries in the game and its a fucking neutral
crazy
its pretty good removal tho right
i havent vsed many havens but jeanne was pretty tilting
alongside the stupid ass wilbert or w.e his name is
broken shit card
die
this means the artifact can only be destroyed by combat and by banishing right 
anything that damages them will kill them
bayle, william, may etc does damage
but you cant kill it with bullet from beyond for example
oh I see, so I can just dose it
yea
havent seen that before so I didnt want to waste my dose in case it didnt work 
thanks 
damage too
like aragavy jeanne glade etc
cant be destroyed doesnt apply to straight damage
yea makes sense, makes this effect way easier to deal with than I thought
well, its still an annoying free ward for them
and also makes it so the 5 cost spell is even more broken
yea bro artifact really needed that, give it storm as well i think
also makes it so copies dont die at eot
cause they need it
artifact was 2 weak
they already got a better anne and grea
just give them everything
fuckin free rush, ward, and draw card from a summoned copy
actually tilts me if they give that effect to the 3/5 heal
real
heal for 3, 3/5 ward 
they just get so much free shit that they never have to actually worry about losing resource
yea, I havent had to deal with it that much yet since I guess in low mmr nobody really uses it
Wait, people actually complaining about ward haven? lol
Ward Haven is basically non-existent at my elo
100% skill issue
The one haven I've encountered all day today is actually storm

Ward's actual wincon is playing 6-7-8 and hoping your opponent cannot clear your board by the time you get to 8 (Jeanne)
Even if you had 6-7-8 every game, hoping your opponent can't disrupt this at any point is unreliable
yeah
Which is why it's fallen off less than a week into this expansion
its still a decent deck but this is why i put the birds in it
they make it a lot easier
i think dragon is our worst MU potentially too
cause twilight invalidates our entire set ups
Even Sword is not a good match-up because Gildaria can clear almost anything, especially with Grimnir
yeah grimm is super good in general
The only thing that's unfortunate about Ward Haven falling off is that all the Forest players are coming back
i have sword haven and abyss built so i swap around
With some aggro shit featuring Titania, the 4 drop that buffs fairies and still includes roach
still have 16k vials im not sure what i want my 4th to be
Very hard to deal with
titania needs to be 3 cost 
Least biased Forest player ^
maybe in the future she will be great with aria but rn not really
combo forest is just much better than tempo by a long shot
sure but i dont like the waiting to try and otk
id rather just play an aggro deck
yea sure i need them for weeklies anyway
well if its what you prefer then by all means
i dont think tempo forest is that good though
nice
bro that agnes to face was greedy af 😭
yea i 50/50 to see if it can destroy your 4/5 lmfao
u know why
i misplayed that because i thought i was saving evo for tiger
because tiger only has 4 damage
but i realised i ran out of pp
so i cannot click tiger
ah
ggs @cursive crypt
ggs
u got any tips for my shit gameplay
i know first match i was trolling
should've just cleared the board
i think for last game i would keep your phildau alive by using dark haven
and trade with 3/3 mainyu
and play beast princess
let me check replay
its much better cause clearing 1 hp unit is not that easy for haven before salefa turn
oh ok i shouldn't play the mainyu
wait it makes sense because i have problems clearing 1hp units
oh i forgot u played mainyu as well
then just play mainyu imo
and hold the princess
it would be better to have mainyu and 4/1 phil than mainyu and princess
yea ok i see
well i had nothing to play, i think i misplayed by throwing away agnes in mulligan
Chest event online
Sure.
nice
Lol, not trying to bully. I have made that mistake too a few times.
Old Grimnir was much simpler.
shouldve traded the 3/3 last
mb
now i'm getting 2
albert and gildaria nowhere to be found
lol
I had ginsetsu in my hand btw
I was just holding it because I only had one
In fact, I was waiting for you to play your 2nd gildaria
yea i stopped playing control because the matches went for 15 rounds
its a fun deck but its mostly just trading
I enjoy playing control vs aggro, tbh
yea thats for sure
what major mistakes did i do except forgetting about grimnir and trading that 2/2 zombie instead of the 3/3 one
Uhh... not sure, tbh. Honestly, I was expecting you to play a bit greedy with the Amalia by not trading into the zombies
nah those zombies can be a menace
Honestly, even if I don't draw 1 of my 2 Fennie's, the deck is still strong.
Fennie just makes it borderline impossible for the opponent to keep up.
Especially if I play 2.
what you running for ramp drag can i see the list
One sec.

@umbral seal I tried your sword list, I think I like it better than the random ones I found on shadowverse wins or at least it fits me better
Switched the 3 star legs for the noble lady though 
Tbh, I'm probably going to include more Roses in the deck
Yeah rose I mean
Yeah, Seria. Seria is good against aggro & fairies. Also comboes well with Rose.
The gunner sometimes pops off but I think portal is plaguing the meta right now and she sucks vs portal
The problem is it's hard to fit in Seria without cutting Prim
I think artifact matchup is even more difficult than last time with the new legendary
But otherwise matchups seems good
Must be aggro lists
Yeah, any midrange list should absolutely have Jeno
Took out Kage. Cut Grimnir down to 1. Put in 2 Roses.
I really want to like Yurius but I just can't justify using him.
He has not performed as well as I want him to.
i dont like using him at all unfortunately
@molten root
i tried it but he hasnt been of any use at all
Yurius is super polarizing sometimes he wins me games on the spot
And mostly he's useless
Yeah, if you can safely play him and if the enemy can't remove him, it's gg
yeah i'd rather take cards that are consistently performing then
Unfortunately, that's just too situational
I tried a list with yurius and my win rate tanked and my face dragon wins were wasted

If you reach turn 7/8 vs aggro and can play yurius it's gg
But you can argue if you play Amalia it's GG anyways
Yeah, Amalia took his spot. She just performs way better on an empty board on average
Like it's not really close
which mu's you felt like fennie was a must draw and do you usually keep if you find her ?

If you're facing Rune, keep Fennie regardless of what the rest of your hand is
Unironically
Anything else, you shouldn't be that greedy
honestly
Even portal can play aggressively

i think rune is just fucked if you play control
they run out of steam pretty fast once they proc their 10 er
ramp looks a bit more fun
If you can safely play 2 Fennie's, the game is pretty much over
My last game, I played Olivia for 2 and drew into double genesis dragons for 18 dmg lethal

holy shit
Some lists run 3 Fennie & 3 Genesis but I think that's too greedy with how much aggro is on the ladder
looks like you have healthy board clear tbf
pretty high
this set really made me more interested to play ramp drag and dirt
i just need albert or gildaria
but they arent coming
and its pissing me the fuck off
earlier against kunc they werent coming either
what i like about dirt is that its pretty consistent over all ngl losses just feels like me misplaying sometimes more than the actual power of the deck
i think its really strong and fun to play
Pure dirt needs more burn, tbh. It's not strong but it's close to getting there.
When dirt rune was meta in SV1, it had a lot of tools to kill you with non-combat damage
Right now, that's just Glacial Crash.
just run kuons as a finisher
kuons is not a good finisher imo
they run odins too
In the hybrid list I saw on reddit, it makes sense and Kuon on 10 damage (11 with super evo ping)
The problem is that SB rune can literally otk you with Kuon
SB rune probably beats earth rite. They just switch because they can't stand getting their shit pushed in by abyss
running pure dirt you will have to fuck yourself over running actual strong cards because picking best of both worlds just make every card in the deck super strong
thing is with running dirt hybrid you can be really damn aggresive
well with rune mirror whoever gets the coin has the advantage
earth rite vs SB prob still a 50/50 either way
Hard mull for Lilanthim tbh
my first ER experience back at release was playing lilanthim
and the enemy played medusa
and fucked her 3 times

Any portal players here btw? Seems both archetypes are good
yeah the storm amulet package sucks. I dont have a turn to setup them
back to the board
Well I paid a lot for orchis leader so I have to use a portal deck at one point
only using the 8 cost bird now
bro its so boring to play against puppet
everytime the same play turn 8
double orchis cunts
rare storm haven player 
someone wannna jump into the guild lounge for a quick 1v1 so i can finish the weekly
how many games
just 1
ok i go on my phone
ebic
real or fast game
if the 5 cost storm in haven condition was for 1 amulet not 2. That would've made it playable
yea i can barely get 2 amulets on board tbh
maybe bad mulligan idk
my game with illya, i didn't have serene or darkhaven grace lol
wait i had 1 serene
around that
ok
warp to guild
these are sick
I want
ive played
6 rounds of ER
and never seen a lilanthim
in my hand
how is that possible you ask?
i dont know
Lol
ok 5 games eright
i'm in guild
Okk
man control abyss is so much fun
ye if the matches dont take 15 rounds
This is current deck now. The 1 and 4 cost storm amulet needs too much setup to otk at 12-15 range
@chilly viper u can match with @true abyss now
Lmao red with renpa kek
@mystic tartan wanna help me with spells quest
Okk
Ye
Make sure to go into guild louge to get the S rank bonus
How many spells
Forsen will die
@unkempt lava play 4 more with agro deck 
Someone gift cheeze a giftcard
Oh great
And me
Xdd
@true abyss how many are we playing
aggro abyss
exact lethal on hand again
with 0 hand cards left
you cant make that shit up
that has to be scripted
holy mulligan
i pla against ramp tho
and i lose
because no fennie
thats dead lategame
cant make that shit up ²
nah im missing 2 ralmias 
YOO IM ON A ROLL TODAY
one more of these and i can craft control abyss 
control abyss isnt real change my mind
its not
erm
its bad 
its not?
has a lot of losing MU's
well its not bad, its prob the same tier as ward haven
btw
(not very grood)
yesterday i played against forest
wild
and he otk'd me with 4 rose queen spells + roach
💀 bro got killed by meme queen
yeah
that shit was hella funny
he just kept the board cleana
and heals with lion etc
couldnt get him down
not the lion 
that guy has massive balls
sounds like circus craft to me
I'd have never crafted this, but it's an aight card i guess
One of the best legendaries in the game
bruh it took like 10 games to get my last chest
it refused to spawn

and it was bp points
I got promoted to sapphire 
Kaori can climb me anytime
This event is favoured towards agro decks
Not fair

Look at how I rolled the meta SC guy 
chest event is back ?
can anyone give me sheet for fusing again ?
its ok ima just play aggro till i get 5 chests then swap back
Damn I just dunked on some poor schmuck in the park with lilanthim deck

It is kinda fun if it gets going but still gets carried by how OP Anne and kuon are
Disgusting leggos
Thanks game
1+1 = 3 cost (ward 1/5 or rush 5/1)
3+1 = heal 3/5
3+2 = face 4/4
3+3 = 3 dmg aoe 5/3
Heal + face + aoe (can be fused on different turns) = gundam
Portal artifact is more annoying than rune
man playing aritfacts is actually not easy lmao
okay artifacts are actually hella fun to play
no i'm still fucking gildaria
even tho on 80% of my matches she doesnt show up a single time

its true
He doesn't deserve the animation disenchant him and use the plain version

now thats curve
and i even draw 4 drop lol
hops once was a ramp chad
and now hes a artifact loser
times change
can do what i want he keeps walling
i hate this game
lost to that bullshit again
because he keeps walling
man that is so bullshit
hope that mfer dies irl
fr

its just so unfun
Haven is just too polarising
how do ppl enjoy that playstyle
Not even vs-ing artifact is that feast or famine for sword
Mostly famine ofc
its because
people like seeing people suffer

It is 1* difficulty so it's billed as noob friendly
As long as you pay for all the leggos
its because they're on their deathbed and want to piss off ppl before they finally stop being a waste of air

bro if i can play more decks why not
there is also achivements for it
i can play that too soon
i would play some casino dragon but
i need to get to master first
which seems impossible with those hands
7 matches 0 gildaria
running into ward haven too
trying the deck that top sword player is using
feels useless most of the time
no amalia
no amelia
no jeno
feels grief af
no way to defend against orchis
no way to kill haven
like i trade the whole game with that puppet shitter
and on turn 8 and 9 he plays 2 orchis
and i'm dead
how is that fun
feels so fucking unrewarding to even play anything
that isnt ward haven, puppet portal or aggro abyss
i have to clear the board with sword every time because everything that isnt albert cant do dmg directly
while they throw artifacts
orchis
kuon
rip forest
takes so fucking long in ruby to climb too
That was "mine" (Netdecked) , hops posted a cheaper one
well i have every card anyway
I'm still not sure which one is better. The one you posted is closer to the OG face drag
but even in aggro abyss i manage to get to lategame
its weird
maybe i unintentionally play defensive
idk
SC vs Artifact

okay he conceded
idk why but he did
?
was my winrate the last 20 so good
i recall losing most of it
lmao
well and first match in sapphire against master
gg
That's normal 
The higher your mmr, the higher the points gap would be
Because there are fewer players in that same rank/mmr
I dropped all the way back to emerald without using the new sword lego
Do I need her just to keep up
Actually
I think I need to craft Odin

Forgot about thay
If you play sword yeah
Meanwhile SB rune is so powerful they can just ignore new legos
bro hes master and plays aggro abyss
i cannot
get a grip and play some real deck
you dont need the rp anymore lil bro
and then that hand
that is scripted
i'm telling you
he has every single 1 cost card in his deck on his hand
how is that possible
almost smashed through my desk
man im pretty sure portal just auto lose to rune
i think its fair that artifact has orchis
and ralmia
and basically every op card in portal
and portal beats everything else
pretty favorable tradeoff i'd say
ive never won a single match against artifact
with sword
because everything you do gets denied and they keep pressuring while you can sit there and defend
and watch the guns blasting your face
man i forget to save bullet on yurius lmao
not scripted btw
i draw nothing <4pp
and face sword mirror the whole time
so close to quitting that shit game i swear
like srsly
what can i do
every round
is like that
saph
It will soon be me 
facing master isnt the problem
its those shitty draws against SC
if they have board pre4 and play zirconia i can concede
since SC has no boardclear pre gildaria
the best you can do is rose into something with rush or use phildau evo + attack
but that only clears 2
Happens to me too bro
Rune mirror, no dclimb, enemy had 2 from the start
GG
Also going 2nd is also advantageous in rune mirror
i dont mind it happening
i mind it happening every round
its always pinpoint lethal
i play around albert lethal everytime i mirror
so they cant otk
It's similarly game ending/losing tho
i know the lethal patterns but i cant do anything but to look how they fuck my ass
its tilting that it happens in saph
let it happen in ruby idc
but when i finally can farm some points
i get that bullshit
its just not fair
and control abyss matches take a fuckton of time usually
thats not a good option to climb too unless you're an unemployed streamer
engaging gameplay
and i lose again after 14 rounds of ward haven stalling
i can play as good as i want
it doesnt matter
jeanne clear
jeanne clear
jeanne clear
vessel clear
vessel clear
vessel clear
@hazy lily wanna do weeklys?
i have mine done already but i can help you if u wanna
yeah yeah
are you in the guild?
no
then gimme ur id
i'm gonna downplay this
mine is horrendous
im stoopid
seriously
yeah
with aggro dragon vs haven
the last game
npnp

no, ill wait
my MD account is a fucking gold mine youll be jealous
and its free 2 play
ye
Are we getting a new set so soon already or is this one gonna last another month?
i hope it lasts
next month
they release so fast
f2p cant keep up
impossible for me to win in this game
Just stop playing for the day/time being if you're getting that tilted 
switched to ER
won 2 in a row
perfumer into edelweiss
then he played wilbert
and i played odin
gg
Show ER deck
ye thats the 22 winstreak guys deck
I just don't have 3 odins , I have 2
damn i netdecked alanzq's rune and my opponent quit of boredom
He still streams
as we speak
i get why y'all decks exceed the screen size. because you add fucking premium cards













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