Shadowverse

[warped granite]

Around there

[true abyss]

Are you winning consistently vs rune?

[warped granite]

Nope

I think it's worse than haven

[silver tide]

wilbert is like

[true abyss]

[silver tide]

is it the first crest card

that is good enough to play even if the extra copies cant crest

[warped granite]

But I think rune is getting farmed by abyss

[silver tide]

i guess maybe eudie

[warped granite]

Your garden variety rune anyways

[silver tide]

but eudie crest technically expires so you can use a 2nd one

[chilly viper]

@cursive crypt rate this based deck

[warped granite]

I was watching the number 1 JP rune and he was disgusting

[chilly viper]

sorry not enough adjudicators

[cursive crypt]

ding dong is 🚮

[chilly viper]

do i swap for mainyu

[cursive crypt]

and i changed my mind about that 2 drop destroy its pretty ass

[true abyss]

How do you win?

[cursive crypt]

yea i think mainyu is betyter

[chilly viper]

odin/griffon

[gritty anvil]

bro now i lost because i didnt had 3rd ginsetsu in deck

[chilly viper]

damus is bad? wait why

[warped granite]

I might switch to abyss aggro I think has the same good matchup as face drag and better vs rune

But somehow I almost always win vs them

[cursive crypt]

well u still take damage from the one u marked since it dies at the end of their turn

not yours

[chilly viper]

OHHHHHH

"at the end of your turn" is on the card, so it's the enemy's turn

wtfffff

[cursive crypt]

dose of holiness is also needed imo

so nice to pull that from rodeo

and its not the worst card in that deck anyway

[chilly viper]

no featherfall

[warped granite]

How's haven gaming so far

I think people underestimate them again

[chilly viper]

idk, i'm 0 games played

have been busy with work

[true abyss]

This just seems like worse havenward ngl

[chilly viper]

this weekend i got a whole day out as well

[cursive crypt]

idk what colette does

[chilly viper]

of course, because i have no legendaries to play wardcraft

[warped granite]

Can you get out we don't like grass touchers here

[true abyss]

And you still wana play haven ?

[chilly viper]

i can start playing on sunday

[hazy lily]

control abyss

lets see how long

[chilly viper]

yes, i love haven

[true abyss]

When are you crafting the 6 copies of the legos

[cursive crypt]

actually not bad yeah you can run that

[chilly viper]

i'm not doing that

i'm f2p

i'm pretty much broke now

[true abyss]

Same

[chilly viper]

rupies: 10
vials: 9400

so i'd rather save vials for gold cards instead

gold/silver cards

[cursive crypt]

u gotta try it out and see if you need featherfall or not ig

[true abyss]

Why silver? You get them all eventually

[chilly viper]

it's onlyh effective for sword tbh

[hazy lily]

oiler deck

[chilly viper]

and fairy

it's super useless against rune

[cursive crypt]

nah its really good vs abyss as well

also sometimes u find lethal from it

[chilly viper]

frfr

[mystic tartan]

i amelia magus someone

a rune guy

[gritty anvil]

ok reina is garbage

im pulling her out

[hazy lily]

still on winning streak

ramp dragon throws his 10 pp cards

i throw mukan

mino

medusa

holy trinity of removal

[unkempt lava]

Ok spellboost rune

Wins every match up

[hazy lily]

haven really needs brain right

its not just playing whatever

[unkempt lava]

Get a boardwipe

Or two play runecraft and win

[true abyss]

Abyss has no aoe removal?

[hazy lily]

not for every turn

i cant clear 10 hp ward every turn

without evoing at least some of them

unless i draw every removal card and medusa i have

while haven can masturbate to hentai while playing sv on his 3rd monitor

"oh that card glows, gonna throw"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1035012600276197396/1261015597630881893/glorpnotl.gif

fkn dipshits

[gritty anvil]

again lost because i didnt have apollo

he is so important vs aggro

like literally auto lose

if i have him on curve

[true abyss]

@chilly viper which free deck did you pick

[chilly viper]

wardcraft

[gritty anvil]

look gg he lost

well my hand is kinda heavy but he kill 4 stuff

thats value

[hazy lily]

aggro abyss is boring imo

control is fun but still idk what to do against haven

if they curve

[true abyss]

And you still not going to craft the legos?

[mystic tartan]

bruh i need to vial Norman

but i got no juice left

[chilly viper]

no hehe

i don't like playing ward

feels too pussy mode

[true abyss]

Still picked wardcraft

[chilly viper]

cus free salefa

and idk i might play ward if i'm fed up

[true abyss]

1 card

[chilly viper]

i'm not gonna touch other classes anyway

[true abyss]

Anyways, is this lower than last tournament?

[wild gale]

Yes

They nerfed it into the ground

[mystic tartan]

so many abyss lol

bro Yurius might be my fav lego

in the game

[wild gale]

Anyone wanna play a quick friend match

[chilly viper]

ok

fml deck

let's go

what

wtf is that card dog

fuck man i'm so tilted

[wild gale]

What card lil bro

[chilly viper]

i forgot u need 2 amulets

and i have dose of holiness

so i attack your 1/1

[wild gale]

Doesn't matter

[chilly viper]

so that your albert dies

but i forgot to play dose of holiness first

[wild gale]

Did you have any heals besides dose

[chilly viper]

no

[wild gale]

I could have poker bluffed you

[chilly viper]

i didn't draw a single griffon

[wild gale]

Yeah I was shitting my pants thinking about griffon

If you topdecked griffon I would have been fucked

Fuck unholy vessel btw

[chilly viper]

instead i get stupid fucking rodeo

bro i'm cutting rodeo man

[wild gale]

Skill issue

[chilly viper]

u played 3 luminous mage in a row

please stop

[hazy lily]

lethal

[wild gale]

You unholy vesseled me

[chilly viper]

what else can i do

[wild gale]

Also imma be real

[chilly viper]

i only got 2 vessels

i have to organically clear your ward wall

[wild gale]

Dose of holiness didn't natter

[hazy lily]

so many dragoncraft on ladder

[wild gale]

I had tentacles on hand

[chilly viper]

yea my draw was shit

[wild gale]

5 damage

[hazy lily]

i dont get it

[wild gale]

[chilly viper]

also i'm cutting rodeo

stupid cuck card

[hazy lily]

my deck feels really good tho ngl

won 6/7 matches

[wild gale]

I'm thinking about cutting centaur

Way too slow

[hazy lily]

actually thats a lie

6/8

[wild gale]

Fucking ward walls are killing me

There's just no way to kill ward and rune through their wards with centaur

[chilly viper]

my hand was

• dose of holiness
• avian statue
• agnes

there's no letha lright

u had 9 hp

i don't think i had evo

yea no lethal

[wild gale]

This Agnes? https://en.shadowverse-evolve.com/cards/?cardno=CP01-028EN

[chilly viper]

i was probably dead anyway

[chilly viper]

i can only clear board

also winged statue cooldown

why am i running it again

[wild gale]

Man I was so lucky you fell for my ward evolve trick

Allowed me to play magus

[chilly viper]

cancer fucking card

the only way i can clear it is vessel or featherfall

and i have no featherfall this deck

[wild gale]

Not cancer at all

Magus is fair and balanced

Compared to ward haven

You should just play that

[chilly viper]

no money to fund the legos

[hazy lily]

just yk

whale

[chilly viper]

idk man

i don't like the idea of paying money but getting cards from other classes

can u imagine i paid money only to get legendaries from other classes

[hazy lily]

why are those artifact guys

suddenly playing heal artifacts

???

earlier too

[chilly viper]

new cancer meta

but man i love the odin card

but 2 def? wtf

[wild gale]

It's a one off

You use it as 4 face damage and banish

Just assume it's dead

[chilly viper]

i need to look at those new abysscards

[wild gale]

That's why I don't pay money

[chilly viper]

maybe i play abyuss

yea i don't wanna

[wild gale]

The 9 cost is fucking bonkers

But if you have agavy you can play aggro abyss

Imma be fr

Full early aggro is the way

[hazy lily]

fr

he even takes board dmg and heal with ralmia

???

[wild gale]

There's very little point if you're slotting in cards with more than 7 cost against all these bullshit decks

You can't fucking out value them

[chilly viper]

bro wtf is this new zombie shit

[wild gale]

You have to aim for face damage and kill them

[wild gale]

Summons 2 undying zombies

[chilly viper]

that's insane

[wild gale]

Protects against unholy vessel

[chilly viper]

wtf

[wild gale]

You know what's crazy?

Ward haven still out values that

[chilly viper]

yea i'm allergic to ward

and i'm scared what's to come

[wild gale]

You have to use it if you're playing haven

[chilly viper]

it's really not fun

[wild gale]

Bullshit against bullshit brother

Or join hyper aggro

[chilly viper]

ward is a very defensive playstyle

[chilly viper]

but idk how to get through ward

i have to clear first

[hazy lily]

all this healing motherfuckers

tilting me

[wild gale]

I run divine thunder

[hazy lily]

hes such a bad artifact player but still wins

[chilly viper]

divine thunder can't clear shit man

[hazy lily]

because i cant outvalue that

[wild gale]

Yeah at later turns they can heal back 20 hp

It's fucking insane

I run flashblader and samurai with vayle to clear out all barriers to me cutting them up

[hazy lily]

he doesnt know what hes doing and still wins

i hate that so much

[chilly viper]

[warped granite]

Need to buy this for collection

[wild gale]

Kuncussion about to say how hard it is to play artifact and rune

[chilly viper]

KITASAN BLACK

[warped granite]

I'll be real though after watching no 1 jp rune, watching garden variety runes on twitch feels so different

That guy was untouchable it was disgusting

[hazy lily]

i mean rune on a high lvl is hard for sure. artifact has a lotta decisions but not on that pisslow elo where i am

and it still wins most of the games for some reason

[warped granite]

Somehow always had super evo to finish

[wild gale]

You have to know what deck you're playing against

I also have to do that except I don't have the bullshit rune has

[hazy lily]

i always mulligan matchup specific

to have what i need on their big turns

[wild gale]

Erm do you know rune needs skill

[chilly viper]

oh my god this means i can't find any haven streamers anymore, because they are probably playing wardcraft

[wild gale]

Choosing between kuon and coc lethal is super hard

[mystic tartan]

bro

[hazy lily]

charon going on

[wild gale]

There are no haven streamers

[hazy lily]

and he conceded

[mystic tartan]

Norman actually make rune WTF tier

i hate that dude

[hazy lily]

bro why they even try to play dragon

[mystic tartan]

[wild gale]

[hazy lily]

makes no sense

[mystic tartan]

3 draw or 4 heal or 1 guardian golem with barrier

waw

then evolve u can do that again

[wild gale]

Tough decision making by rune players

[warped granite]

I'm still positive with face

[mystic tartan]

also coc dclimb astaroth

i hate when they do that to me

[wild gale]

Coc lethal

Sounds really hard

[mystic tartan]

tho rune is kinda hard

against abyss rn

[wild gale]

I beat a rune player just now

[mystic tartan]

i literally just dead turn 5

[wild gale]

Because they didn't draw Anne and grea

[mystic tartan]

[wild gale]

[warped granite]

They really need that 8 heal can't be losing against aggro can we

[mystic tartan]

the new aggro abyss

[wild gale]

You mulligan for low costs

[mystic tartan]

tho its because i still dont have norman

on my deck

i need this dude badly

[hazy lily]

never had a dragon that won against me

this expansion

[wild gale]

Just heal back everything

[warped granite]

Well I'm still in AA sapphire

Garden variety abyss players suck

[hazy lily]

i'm not even AA bro

[mystic tartan]

yeah im sapphire too

[hazy lily]

i played all the fun decks and barely made it to A

LOL

now i'm A2

[mystic tartan]

kek

[wild gale]

I'm in b1 and everyone has a meta deck

[mystic tartan]

im vibing with Sword rn

cus Rune is just the same shit

[wild gale]

https://tenor.com/view/omgbruh-corey-harris-omg-bruh-zoom-court-gif-2693074222613527227

[mystic tartan]

[wild gale]

Roach is unusable

[mystic tartan]

u dont play around Roach anymore

Titania is the queen now

[warped granite]

I actually didn't expect to climb with face drag but outside of haven and rune I've been thriving surprisingly

[mystic tartan]

[warped granite]

Rune is actually the worst

[mystic tartan]

she can banish Walbert

[wild gale]

A roach player tried to continue playing in this new world

I shut down his dream with 2 zirconias

[mystic tartan]

make him become Fairy

[wild gale]

[warped granite]

I heard aggrobyss is better vs rune need to switch

[mystic tartan]

yes

its better

skoomah

i got destroyed

[hazy lily]

i mostly play against abyss and dragon atm

[chilly viper]

what legos to play aggrobyss

[mystic tartan]

u run that storm new gold

[wild gale]

Good

[chilly viper]

do u need ginsex

[wild gale]

Fuck you rune players

[mystic tartan]

nah

[wild gale]

Not really

[mystic tartan]

u need Odin

[chilly viper]

is it my time to shine

[wild gale]

You only need agavy and Odin as legos

[chilly viper]

abyss account

[mystic tartan]

Aragavy

[chilly viper]

oh shit i have those

[wild gale]

Do you have agray

[chilly viper]

yes sir

[wild gale]

You might be able to play aggro abyss

You need 3 copies btw

[chilly viper]

my account is abyss account

[wild gale]

He's carry

[chilly viper]

need evo right

[warped granite]

Maybe people don't think I'm face nowadays so they got complacent

[chilly viper]

to trade 3hp

erm frick

[warped granite]

I'm watching rune player complaining, complain some more I almost come

[chilly viper]

ok the reason it works is because zombie if killed summons another one and u can use it to hit face on your next turn

right?

[hazy lily]

ok lost to aggro abyss because i had a horrible draw

[chilly viper]

ok i'm too dumb for this class

[hazy lily]

that motherfucker

[warped granite]

What class

If you're playing aggro you need a few games to get into the flow, it's honestly not as brainless as people say

Still brainless tho

[wild gale]

Aggro abyss is easy

Ignore health go face

Bat will drain it back anyway

[chilly viper]

ok as much as i hate to lose, i'd rather win with dignity

[hazy lily]

dead again

had such a good run

tilting

cerb heal might help

[chilly viper]

mainyu carrying @cursive crypt

HAHAHA HE CANNOT TARGET MY MAINYU

[hazy lily]

I STILL WON THAT AHAHAH

I'M THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD

cerb my beloved

now haven again

zzzzzz

[chilly viper]

3 anne grea and the game still doesn't end

rune needs a buff fr

of course dclimb to get kuon, very skilled gameplay

[true abyss]

Leaving medusa alive is already gg

[true abyss]

Join the rune side

[chilly viper]

no

[true abyss]

@umbral seal sent guild req

[true abyss]

Get coc dclimbed

[chilly viper]

i have never been this dominating in a game before

nvm i'm dead

[hazy lily]

lmfao

thats how my enemies board looked too

and then i played ginsetsu

+4 heal -4 enemy cards

[chilly viper]

tell me why fanfare: halve cost of all cards in your deck is balanced

[wild gale]

No way brother

You actually died to that?

Your opponent deserved that win

[chilly viper]

apparently i die to 2 genesis dragons

[wild gale]

Even topdecked 2 genesis dragons

[chilly viper]

i don't have enough dps

is this some sort of a dps check deck

[hazy lily]

that dirt guy thought his spell doubles the atk and def right when he plays it

cant make that up

[true abyss]

8 mana do nothing, and only impacts in deck cards

[chilly viper]

yea i just realised

[true abyss]

Ofc you don't, you're playing basic haven, without Lapis

[chilly viper]

this means he drew 2 genesis dragons while they are still in the deck

bro this is turn 11

[wild gale]

Problem?

[chilly viper]

turn 11 means

he drew 2 genesis dragons in 2 turns

or 3 turns

the fuck

[hazy lily]

WHERE IS MY MEDSUA

[chilly viper]

oh i think he plays goldenote

[wild gale]

It was just meant to be

[hazy lily]

SUDHASDHASDASDJ SA*?=D IFKASÜOPFGDSKÜOPgfs

+o

ASGFJOp+ASDG
KÜP GDS
Ü?P

godawful player winfs

with 5 cards left in his deck

because i cant draw a single medusa

i'm so pissed

[mystic tartan]

medussy

[gritty anvil]

is discord bugged ?

master 5

[molten root]

how exactly can abyss win against this shit dude

[gritty anvil]

yep dragon pretty good

[mystic tartan]

waiting for u back to sapphire

after a losestreak

[true abyss]

Coc without dclimbed

[gritty anvil]

i bet diamond have more forest players

[mystic tartan]

Maybe

But i bet its abyss

Cus so many propaganda

About them rn

[gritty anvil]

one forest player i met was really good i even 2 times filene spell him wasnt enough he just waited i dont have storm dmg

my deck pretty much auto lose to forest

they need to have really bad hand

i think fennie deck have better chance vs forest

[true abyss]

@umbral seal thoughts?

[hazy lily]

bro i'm only playing against dragon

and somehow these pisslow players

have lethal ready when they need it

that guy plays filene without overflow

and concedes

you cant make that shit up

i'm really playing against the lowest of the low

[molten root]

you looking at the list ? it never needed it

[true abyss]

Earth rune is fun

[true abyss]

Yeah I'll replace my coc with odin as soon as I get another copy of him

[hazy lily]

thats what i tried

[true abyss]

3x 8 mana lego?

[hazy lily]

yea

[molten root]

coc is there if you are against portal

[true abyss]

Idk, no kuon seems trolling

[molten root]

which is the only bad mu against this list

[true abyss]

Puppet ?

[molten root]

you can also drop 1 kuon for olivia as he is nice but not that nice

[molten root]

no

[hazy lily]

idk if 12 winstreak in diamond master is convincing enough

[true abyss]

[molten root]

it only lose against portal cuz healing

this shit won’t die to aggro

[gritty anvil]

playing filene without overflow is fine

[hazy lily]

no

he literally

thought

the effect would trigger

[gritty anvil]

oh

[hazy lily]

and conceded

because obvlsy it didnt

[gritty anvil]

ye

thats dumb

[hazy lily]

i think i will start insta concede against haven

timewaste

[molten root]

can tell turn 5

[hazy lily]

i clear that

aether super evo

field full again

literally most braindead deck ive ever played against

[molten root]

its that and this that i really cba fighting

[spark spruce]

Scooby

[molten root]

hey cutie

[spark spruce]

Heyyy

[molten root]

[hazy lily]

yea

as soon as i see wilbert

i will concede

thats not worth 20min of my time

[molten root]

[hazy lily]

haven again

guess we just skip this expansion

sv1 ward haven wasnt this broken

and they had wilbert too

[spark spruce]

Hmm what free deck should I pick

[hazy lily]

prolly sword

imo

[molten root]

when the set dropped i was so energetic to craft and test aggro abyss because it actually got juice now then i remembered haven and got depressed

[spark spruce]

Portal is not good anymore?

[molten root]

it depends what you have already tbf

portal is decent

[spark spruce]

ohhhh

Wowie

[molten root]

[true abyss]

7 WS, still in topaz

It demoted me after reset

[hazy lily]

he plays 2 wilbert in a row

into salefa

:)))))))))

cant get through without odin

[true abyss]

Out skilled

[true abyss]

Yeah how does this performe vs Wardcraft

[hazy lily]

yea looks like he wins

because i cant get through his wards

:))))

[true abyss]

I did redeemed the rune deck, I got +1 kuon, i converted it to premium with the extra shard I had and liqufied him +2500 viles

[molten root]

wins

[true abyss]

Which let me craft 3 normans

[true abyss]

How, can you give me a guide?

[molten root]

unless you getting perfect curved

[true abyss]

No aoe clear apart from the 3 mana spell

[molten root]

i dont play rune im getting fucked by it

[true abyss]

[hazy lily]

do i need to say anything

[true abyss]

How did haven get officers

[hazy lily]

yurius

fuck you and your whole family

pisslow

how can he lose that

acutal brainlet

HAVEN AGAIN

HELLO

DO PPL PLAY ANY OTHER CLASS

[true abyss]

How does that card work again? It perma blocks 2 spots and does 2 damage me and heals opponent by 2 ?

[hazy lily]

heals you

dmg opponent

[true abyss]

And perma blocks 2 spots?

[hazy lily]

for 1 turn

[true abyss]

It's worded like shit

[hazy lily]

hard mulligan vs haven

i dont care

[true abyss]

So everytime opponent plays a unit, it can't attack for 1 turn and i get healed one and opponent gets pinged for 1?

[hazy lily]

yea

[true abyss]

Got it ty

Seems like a op control card

Especially vs non spell decks

[hazy lily]

fucked him

was the right decision to hard mulligan for cerb and medusa

dragon tard taunts me before playing genesis dragon

look i can play 3 ramp cards an win

thats how skilled i am

[unkempt lava]

feels good going mulligan 4 for the op 6 drop

[hazy lily]

exactly lethal again

idk what i have to do

to get draws like my enemies

90% havencraft btw

really fun expansion

[warped granite]

Everytime I see rune heals for 8 and then 8 again I want to barf

[gritty anvil]

monkaS

man that forest guy must brick af

[true abyss]

Which one is better?

[gritty anvil]

rune players

[true abyss]

Yeah, you can't win vs Wardcraft as ER

This shit must have the most polarizing matches

[gritty anvil]

ye they have nothing for wide boards

u need to play wiliam

basically hybrid

[true abyss]

Who even can deal with this, ramp dragon?

[gritty anvil]

ramp dragon abyss aswell

haven can too

vessel

sword not sure sword cant do this about this

portal

[gritty anvil]

nice

portal actually not sure if they can deal wit it

[true abyss]

Double summon Y, that requires you to have 2 Ys

Was it Y or B, the one that deals 3 to all enemy followers

You can save enough puppets for Orchid, it's also an easy clear

[gritty anvil]

well but orchis is turn later right

unless u have coin

?

[true abyss]

Oh gg then, but someone was playing Wardcraft here, they showed that they lost 5 times out of 6 to portal , idk how tho

[gritty anvil]

well technically they can keep enough normal puppets to deal with it

also buffed with noah

enhanced and normal puppets

also u can always go wide before they play aether

but u also risking they use vessel isntead

but if they use vessel it buys u time for orchis turn

[true abyss]

@gritty anvil #1383658402005123112 message

Idk their list

Weird they are going 50/50 vs sword

[gritty anvil]

i gues if they are ahead on board aether doesnt really help that much

[umbral seal]

I just woke up, gimme a bit

[gritty anvil]

why no spellboost playing that new spell

i dont get it

isnt it good vs aggro

split dmg spellboost spell

[umbral seal]

No.

Aggro doesn't auto lose to removal/aoe

I feel like I've explained this several times. They can lose to ungodly amounts of healing

Which is why spell boost runs 3 normans

[gritty anvil]

i dont know i was vs some abyss aggro i keep removing his board and he just concede

[umbral seal]

Aggro abyss has a lot of out of hand reach that doesn't require board presence. However, they have no draw power

[gritty anvil]

aggro abyss can run out of juice fast if u stabilize

[umbral seal]

They're more likely to lose against healing than removal but removal helps

Not saying it's completely useless

Also, that 3 pp spell is ass against everything not aggro.

[gritty anvil]

i sometimes have godlike apollo turn and still lose

but not always

[gritty anvil]

i think biggest issue of that spell is that it start at 0

[umbral seal]

William also starts at 0. Starting at zero isn't inherently bad but the deck already has better aoe options

[warped granite]

@true abyss are you redstorm?

[umbral seal]

And then there's the question of what do you cut

[gritty anvil]

ye but he goes down later

means he propably gonna be spellboost quite a bit

hes turn after anna grea which is big

[gritty anvil]

i would run max 2

[umbral seal]

I would run zero. Not because the card is bad but because there's no room

And I don't want to worsen my match ups against non aggro decks

[gritty anvil]

but dont rune lose to aggro ?

they have almost nothing to deal wit hthose 1/1 early

or they have that aoe

i guess

spell

[true abyss]

Yep

[gritty anvil]

what it called

[umbral seal]

Even if you run 2 copies of that spell, it's still a bad match up. There's a reason high lvl rune players don't run it

Even if you don't trust me, you should trust experts who are better than me

And also play the deck yourself

[warped granite]

Welcome in

[umbral seal]

@warped granite Thanks, bud. Didn't feel like getting out of bed yet 😅

[true abyss]

check my 1st message

@umbral seal if you get time, share a full Earth deck if there is any , rn I my ER deck feels helpless vs Wardcraft

[umbral seal]

I've seen full ER on ladder. I can experiment with one if you'd like.

I don't know if it can beat Haven without drawing Lilanthim, though

[true abyss]

No pressure, if you wana

Another lego I can't play

Game bugged

[umbral seal]

Hm, I need to craft lilanthims. Or swipe some more.

[true abyss]

I redeemed the rune deck, i converted the extra kuon to animated and liquidated him, got enough dust for 3rd norman

[lone agate]

I was so confused

somehow i dodged almost all rune/forest and heaven legs

got so lucky

all others have 3x of

[blissful olive]

2nd one ig

only need 1 more of her to play sword tbh

[umbral seal]

@true abyss Experimental but full ER. No A&G nor Kuon. Going to try it out.

[blissful olive]

not a fan of whats her name

eldeweiss or something

the free evo ping

[umbral seal]

Edelweiss is good but I'm going to try Perfumer instead

[blissful olive]

i think shes good too 4/4 ward for 3 do think edel is stronger tho

[umbral seal]

Well, just had a game where I drew no ER generators

Think I need to cut runeknight for the owl

[true abyss]

Rolled a Wardcrafter low ranks tho, he tried to banish lili with odin

[umbral seal]

Going better.

I wouldn't run cocytus, though. Lilanthim is your win condition and she will end the game

[blissful olive]

looks like its bugged

[gritty anvil]

ye wtf is that

give me pack

i got second titania

well i guess i can try midrange forest later without roaches

[blissful olive]

midrange dont exist

u aggro

run zirconia go face big money

[gritty anvil]

well thats midrange basically

[primal isle]

how is the gildaria deck

[gritty anvil]

i can almost try that deck

but that deck want amataz i think

u basically want all the fairy generators u can get

this card is kinda nice but its annoying u need to combo it for aoe

[blissful olive]

thats 8 mana min yeah

rather run glade and not him

[gritty anvil]

well u can have 0 costs

but most likely not

[blissful olive]

u can but in aggro not likely

[gritty anvil]

u run bayle

right

in aggro

[blissful olive]

gross lol

if i had to bayle to get that thing out lol

[gritty anvil]

lionel is really solid card u summon 2 carbuncle and one u can evo instantly

mean he only cost 3 mana for 10/10 worth of stats

tahts a lot

[umbral seal]

"worse than spellboost" btw

Also, I need to turn on the setting that reminds me to click the sigil

I keep forgetting

[gritty anvil]

i really think roachless forest could be doable

but u just autolose to some match ups

[umbral seal]

Sure, but the problem is that Roach just makes the deck significantly better

[gritty anvil]

like haven

[umbral seal]

Even Rose Queen decks still want Roach

[gritty anvil]

yes but if my deck have no 0 costs and stuff like that it would be bad

[umbral seal]

I don't think there's any forest deck that is better if you don't run it

[gritty anvil]

to run him

and overall cost of my deck would be higher hes not worth

i want to try cynthia forest with arias

with odns and selwyns as finisher

im not saying its better than roach

[umbral seal]

Another game of pure ER bullying spellboost @blissful olive

[blissful olive]

the mirror ur prob better off yeah

[blissful olive]

but over all SB < er by a mile

[umbral seal]

Tell me, what is spellboost supposed to do here

Except die?

[blissful olive]

odin crash

[umbral seal]

Spellboost does not run Odin

Now you're just trolling lol

[blissful olive]

it should

[umbral seal]

They shouldn't and they don't

The best players don't, who're you?

[blissful olive]

better i guess

odin is 2 good not 2 run

[umbral seal]

In most decks, sure. Odin literally does not fit in Spellboost

If you think so, play that deck and tell me how far you get

[lone agate]

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FxTwitter · Jul 18, 2025, 12:38 AM

what you think of this

[umbral seal]

One sec

[lone agate]

22 streak

but seems like hes running stuff that would be questionable for you

[blissful olive]

looks ok? but id find room for the fake medusa

that cards hella good

u could run at least 1 yurias too

[umbral seal]

No, Yurius is bad. Already experimented with him

Good players already stopped running him

He is remove or lose, but he's hard to play safely

[blissful olive]

works for me i dont like him on the board either lol

that 2 drop that pings 2 for 1 might be good too

seen a few running that

[umbral seal]

The only thing questionable is the fact that he's running so few 3 drops, in a craft that arguably has the most competitive 3 drops

I've experimented with the Grimnir/Gildaria combo. The only problem is that I don't feel it helps against the worst match-up (sb rune)

But I do like that inclusion

[lone agate]

I also thought odin was really too good to not fit in
and the 2 1/1 was kinda bad

[umbral seal]

Odin should be in the deck.

Y'all should note that just because someone is on a large win-streak doesn't mean their deck is beyond improvement

[lone agate]

didnt say that

but 22 streak still considerable at his rank

[umbral seal]

I know you didn't but that's the vibe I get from fellas sometimes

It's definitely impressive, I agree

Not trying to downplay that fella.

[lone agate]

was just curious

especially for the 2 1/1 mostly

I thought was really bad

I feel its nice when you start second

cause extra playpoint you drop her

and after 3/3

[primal isle]

wtf rip off can't claim

[lone agate]

the programmer: "i forgot to exclude the quest iteself from the requirement logic"

[gritty anvil]

ye

[lone agate]

[primal isle]

now give another free pack as compensation

[umbral seal]

I also thought she was bad but I see good players running her. I think the biggest thing that's nice about her is nonja is an officer, so she comboes with lancetrooper

I didn't know that before using her

[lone agate]

officer

[blissful olive]

the quest bugged ya they said they know on twitter

maybe we get free shit

[umbral seal]

@gritty anvil Question. If you play Fennie and then play cocytus after, is the apocalypse deck also discounted?

Asking because I had a dragon player do that and I'm not sure

[gritty anvil]

i dont think it is

i never tried that

but u basically replace deck with new one

i dont think it works for fennie effect

someone can test it here i have 0 fennie

[blissful olive]

based on wording id say no

cause its a new deck it says

[cursive crypt]

You run coc in that dragon deck?

[gritty anvil]

me ?

yes i run coc

i run deck without fennie

[blissful olive]

@umbral seal im told u played tf out torch light wanted to ask if theres a site with info or builds or whatever

never played b4

[umbral seal]

Yes, I played a bit of it awhile ago. I don't use websites for builds because making a build is painfully straight forward in that game

[cursive crypt]

No fennie? But fennie is where the fun is at

[umbral seal]

It's hard to fuck up unless you're going for the hardest content

[cursive crypt]

I played vs someone that high rolls the shit outta me and it was so unplayable

2 ramp into coin fennie

And he drew another fennie shortly after

And then played 2 cost Olivias

[blissful olive]

ah alright thanks

[umbral seal]

Did a new season just start?

[blissful olive]

do u know if u can respec

uhh few days ago

new class seems fun

[cursive crypt]

Torchlight immortal?

[umbral seal]

Respec'ing is very new player friendly. iirc, free respecs are free until like lvl 90

[blissful olive]

aight cool

new char 15 bucks lowkey evil but its not the worst ig

this mf healed for 16 lol

oh but hes dead i got odin for 9

@umbral seal was there like class changes and shit that u cant undo like uhh poe 2

[umbral seal]

Most arpg's are not like PoE 2, lol.

Last time I checked, there's no hostile bullshit like that in TL: I

It's much more similar to PoE 1

[blissful olive]

ah ok

we got like 40 days till poe 2 new league so figured id spend time in this

[umbral seal]

Sapphire/Ruby ping-pong

Too many good players playing at season start

Ladder is absolutely infested with abyss

[lone agate]

at AA1 for me there is alot of puppet

[blissful olive]

all this bat support but no vampy

[nocturne karma]

@blissful olive has leveled up! (60 ➜ 61)

[blissful olive]

L set

[lone agate]

I wanted sword new ticket

Gildaria would have been perfect frfr

[blissful olive]

wow had exact lol

[umbral seal]

Yeah, I started seeing aggro puppets pick up steam

I get the logic behind going aggro

[blissful olive]

call me

the batman

https://tenor.com/view/test-gif-2341822946696656132

[lone agate]

batcraft

[chilly viper]

wtf

bats are not that good man

[blissful olive]

ur mom wasnt that good last night either

https://tenor.com/view/deez-ha-got-heem-got-em-got-him-gif-4824899

[chilly viper]

hehe

[lone agate]

[fading echo]

BROOO artifact is broken

if you give the artifact the buff that doesn't let it get destroyed by abilities it doesn't die after you summon with that spell that makes it die after the enemy turn

[blissful olive]

check mate i think lol

aragavy + rage

next game check mate again lmao

aragavy + rage in hand

[wild gale]

Dead to flashblader Albert evolve

[chilly viper]

uh guys

[blissful olive]

check mate again lol

if they dont heal aragavy 2 rages gg

[umbral seal]

Insane game.

Gildaria is the only reason I won that, tbh

[cursive crypt]

sometimes lucky

[blissful olive]

if it was the 100 id have killed em

[chilly viper]

just won against 2 swords back to back

holy shit i love it when i have an answer to their bs

[blissful olive]

actually lost this game cause cygames doesnt know who to manage mechanics

mukan ate my shadows so i cant double mummy gg

[wild gale]

MODSSSSSS

[blissful olive]

hooray

[wild gale]

Just killed a ramp dragon with otohime?

Are they running those now

[umbral seal]

They shouldn't be

That's the pre patch dragon

[chilly viper]

got a taste of ward haven

wow that was cancer

the fuck

[blissful olive]

yeah grim is really good

[umbral seal]

Diamond Master yet again

Anyone want the deck list? 👀

@lone agate The guy you linked earlier definitely had good suggestions. Not running Odin is definitely wrong, however.

[chilly viper]

bruh i do not belong in this elo

[umbral seal]

And what ELO would that be?

[chilly viper]

this is some scrub elo man

i'm in elo hell

[umbral seal]

I mean, if it's scrub ELO, you just have to get better

Let me see the deck list

[chilly viper]

i'm 4 win streak and still topaz 😞

[chilly viper]

thinking of cutting the censers

for +1 adjudicator and +1 agnes

[umbral seal]

So, to go up a tier, it's not just single win streaks. The game accounts for your overall win rate.

[chilly viper]

ah

[umbral seal]

Deck needs 3rd Odin & Jeanne (I know you're not rich). You have a comically low amount of 2 drops.

Like your only real turn 2 play is mainyu. This deck should definitely run 3x tiger.

[chilly viper]

sure i'll try that

but what do i give up

[umbral seal]

I don't know what censer and colette do. Let me look them up

[chilly viper]

ok

[umbral seal]

Alright, I see what you're going for with colette. Definitely a 3 of. Agnes should also be 3x

[hazy lily]

damn ive seen someone with fully animated ginsetsu and yuzuki

that looks so fucking good

[umbral seal]

I used the globes to animate all of my Gildarias

[chilly viper]

yea it's like a faster tiger

but idk if cutting censer is ideal, because censer definitely helps me with the 2 amulet requirement

[hazy lily]

i mean that one tho

85 packs left for me

dont feel like spending more

atm i feel like 270-300 or what ive spent total is enough. its a waste even, given how much the game tilts me atm especially with haven

[umbral seal]

The effect of censer is legit awful. Nope.

The difference between that & darkhaven is significant. Darkhaven also doesn't destroy itself.

[chilly viper]

alright

[umbral seal]

@chilly viper I'll be honest, I don't think Storm Haven is very good in the current meta.

However, if I were to play it, this is probably what I'd run

[chilly viper]

you would run phildau instead of adjudicator?

[umbral seal]

You are vastly underestimating the importance of having playable 2 drops

You will lose a lot of games simply by sacrificing too much tempo, too early

[chilly viper]

are you going to evolve the phildau?

[umbral seal]

Depending on the situation, yes?

Are we going back to debating whether Phildau is good or not? lol

[chilly viper]

no i'm just asking if phildau is just gonna be an early game drop or not

[umbral seal]

He is both.

That's why he's good

[chilly viper]

because my early game is usually amulets

[umbral seal]

Versatility is very important

Sure, and if you can safely play an amulet early game, do that and save phil for later

If you're getting zerged down, you need to read the room and staunch the bleeding

Oh, I'm tripping. I didn't include Salefa.

[hazy lily]

lol

had a maser in my private match

playing abyss pretty aggro against me

and i still fucked him

with my control abyss

[umbral seal]

I just play meme shit in lobbies

No point trying hard outside of ranked

[hazy lily]

nah he was playing a meta deck

he took that shit seriously and wanted to win quick

with aggro

[chilly viper]

ok yea got it

[cursive crypt]

i just found out you cant odin earth sigils/witch brew

[hazy lily]

holy

4 packs, 3 legendary

that was a juicer

already have all of them max tho

daily draw another one

no way

[umbral seal]

Yeah, they have aura

@chilly viper

[chilly viper]

you really like tiger huh

don't u ever find tiger a little slow?

[umbral seal]

No.

[chilly viper]

do u engage it once usually?

[umbral seal]

I don't understand why you think tiger is bad.

[chilly viper]

because the cooldown

same reason why i think winged statue is bad

i see that you also cut winged statue

[umbral seal]

The cooldown on tiger is as long as Avian Statue

Yes, winged statue is bad. That I agree with.

[chilly viper]

but avian statue is storm rightr

[hazy lily]

hes playing that atm apparently

[chilly viper]

i don't understand how you use tiger

[umbral seal]

A 2/2 storm with a cooldown of 4. You need to control the board before you can start storming. Tiger helps with that.

[chilly viper]

i see

[umbral seal]

There's a lot of viable ways to play Sword right now. Every list I look at is significantly different

And all of them can reach diamond master

[hazy lily]

i'm happy with control and "all-range" abyss rn

ginsetsu can really help later on with 4 heal and 4 removal

[umbral seal]

The only thing I disagree with it in that guy's list is Yurius. I've tried him. He's good on paper but bad in practice.

[hazy lily]

insane card

[umbral seal]

Anyone up for a quick match? Wanna try this Haven deck

[hazy lily]

we can

i wanna try another abyss variation

[umbral seal]

I'll be in the lounge