Shadowverse

[gritty anvil]

that doesnt even work

nvm

atleast not on aether turn

[blissful olive]

nah it wont be that bad surely

forest will find a way to bullshit itself through

[umbral seal]

If aether drops, you can't even target the wards anyway

Because they'll have aura if aether is super evo'd

[blissful olive]

good thing haven doesnt have mandatory sevo targets

[umbral seal]

There are two turn set ups with vessel + griffin but Haven will have no issue saving evos for Aether

[blissful olive]

yeah theres nothing that requires sevo the way like cerb or kuon etc does

their points are kinda just open

[true abyss]

Guys elp, i got a 3/5 run, do i play again or just chill?

[blissful olive]

does it matter

says u advanced no

[true abyss]

Idk, I'm asking

[blissful olive]

reasons i want to kms lol

[true abyss]

Me when i play against swordcraft

[blissful olive]

like just play orchis

fuck u thinking for

[true abyss]

Do I make kuno or wait for the new set

[blissful olive]

wat da heck is kuno

[true abyss]

Kuon*

[blissful olive]

if ur playing rune then yes

[true abyss]

You sure he won't be cut down to 2 next patch?

[blissful olive]

why would he

so far we havent seen any SB support

@umbral seal

hows that for ramp lol

[umbral seal]

#1383658402005123112 message

Dragon is my most played craft in sv1 by a country mile

Nothing I've seen makes me want to return to it

[blissful olive]

the effect is broken but turn 8 is usually when shit is going down

[umbral seal]

No because that is a very important card for spellboost Rune. Even dirt rune will probably run at least 2 copies.

[blissful olive]

well in ramp it can be ok i guess since ur turn 8 is much sooner

[umbral seal]

The effect is not broken, because it's slow as shit. You still need to draw the cards that are discounted.

[blissful olive]

yeah if it said in hand too then we talking

[true abyss]

8 mana do nothing, 4/4, SC will eat you up 💀

[blissful olive]

yeah the only saving grace is ur playing it early

[umbral seal]

This is also irrelevant because right now, dragon only has 6 sources of ramp and that's nowhere near consistent enough

[true abyss]

Aight, made my 3rd copy of kuon

[blissful olive]

ppl are gonna go back to ramp tho most likely

cause foot dragon and other shit

[umbral seal]

I mean, I'll try it on season start just for fun

However, until I see more actual ramp

It's gonna remain bottom tier

[true abyss]

What's the season rewards in this game

[blissful olive]

i think if ur playing feet

u have to play ramp

and im pre sure every1 running 3 of her

[umbral seal]

Well yeah, Filene doesn't make sense in aggro unless it's to replace Apollo

[blissful olive]

yeah

maybe theres a ramp card we aint seen yet

[umbral seal]

Filene is a great card but it's not going to help Dragon not suck

If they don't get ramp

[blissful olive]

this is like

worse phil

why even print this

[umbral seal]

I know there's seasonal guild rewards, like 3.5k vials and a special emblem for being in an S ranked guild

[blissful olive]

bro what is this lol

[umbral seal]

If the effect wasn't last words, it'd be good for sniping Ambush units. Then again, it being last words means I'd only expect to see it in abyss

Phildau is better but it does have a niche

[blissful olive]

it does evo for free ig

u can prob work it into something

or use when 1 fella is on the board

[umbral seal]

Emergency healing, that you have to pay back after two turns.

So the haven player would need additional healing to off set it, or end the game

[true abyss]

????

[umbral seal]

Useful against an aggro deck but again, you'd need additional healing after if you're just trying to heal out of lethal range for two turns

[true abyss]

Idk, seems pretty bad

[blissful olive]

its hella situational

but it sucks in general

ud have to like odin urself lmao

[true abyss]

Maybe if it was a card you could get out of something from a last word i could see it being played?

[umbral seal]

Correct, it's situational but I'd still rate it as better than the dragoncraft legendary. Because the situation where I'd see it being good isn't uncommon.

And I don't believe you can Odin your own units

I thought of that, though

[blissful olive]

tbh if we dont get more ramp

then this set is a meme

cause every dragon card shown is for ramp

[umbral seal]

This is already my current opinion

Hops was trying to tell me that I should automatically assume we're getting ramp but that's setting yourself up for disappointment

I'll believe it when I see it.

[blissful olive]

like either 2 things

1 were getting a ramp card

or 2 cygames thinks we already got enough ramp lol

there was also no discard support shown either but we'll see

[gritty anvil]

its also good with olivia

it trigger its last word

as 2 drop

[blissful olive]

tbh the fact that its last words

[gritty anvil]

but its random effect

[blissful olive]

is not that good

[gritty anvil]

it might hit some useless follower

also it can tank on super evoed

trade

[umbral seal]

I mentioned abyss for a reason

[blissful olive]

yeah ik

but even then

[umbral seal]

I don't think it sees play anywhere else

[gritty anvil]

ye its kinda scuffed

its amazing take 2 card tho

[blissful olive]

like soul pred is already fucking ass

[true abyss]

[blissful olive]

nice

[gritty anvil]

i dont think soul pred is that bad

[umbral seal]

Soul predation is nerfed from the 1st game but some lists still use it

[blissful olive]

lot of the time its dead in ur hand

[true abyss]

I don't play portal

[gritty anvil]

but its not great either

[umbral seal]

Deathslash is a 3 of in every deck anyway

[umbral seal]

No shot this true because they have to remember what made dragon good in the first game

Like at least a quarter of your deck has to be ramp

[blissful olive]

well if we dont get another card then thats the answer lmao

[umbral seal]

9 sources of ramp wouldn't be enough to make it top tier but it'd be a massive improvement

[gritty anvil]

i wonder whos here gonna have 5 wins

[blissful olive]

oh right fucking gp finals

uhhhhhh

i got a day i'll do it later

[gritty anvil]

its gonna be so sweaty

[umbral seal]

I've been 4-1 so far.

Could try for 5 but doesn't matter to me tbh

[cursive crypt]

Finals today?

[gritty anvil]

wait 4-1 is still fine

no

u can lose once

[cursive crypt]

I'm not that lucky to get 5 wins

[gritty anvil]

or u cant ?

its 6 games no ?

[umbral seal]

Nope, 5 total

[gritty anvil]

so 5 wins one 1 lose

what

why it say in rules 6 games

schedule

[umbral seal]

For the finals, it's 6?

[cursive crypt]

You are out after 2 losses or 5 wins whichever comes first

[umbral seal]

Wasn't clear on that

[gritty anvil]

yes

finals

6 matches

[gritty anvil]

u dont even get to play second day ?

u just out ?

if u lose 2 times ?

[cursive crypt]

There is no second try yeah

[gritty anvil]

bruh

[umbral seal]

Just play a top tier

[wet kernel]

Won group B lul

[umbral seal]

Well, went 0-2 in Group A. Portal player had 3 Ralmia's in a row with cannon on the board

In the end, lost because I couldn't heal over 3 after he played masterwork.

Ah well.

[gritty anvil]

rip i went 0-2

lost to both runes

[cursive crypt]

Winged statue is trash it's good vs forest but you lose vs forest 90% of the time anyway

The grand prix finals is ongoing already?

[gritty anvil]

first rune literally kept entire hand 0 mulligan and on 10 he had double kuon climb

[cursive crypt]

I thought it's tomorrow

[gritty anvil]

i was even watching my replays i dont think i misplayed

whats better play here medusa or cerberus ?

it has to be cerberus right

without poping crypt

[cursive crypt]

Imma be honest bro, your rune opponent is 20hp on turn 8 and has a board I don't think you can win no matter what

[gritty anvil]

ye

this guy had nuts

on 10

i was so healthy

doesnt matter

his kuon did 24 dmg

[cursive crypt]

You lose to everything basically on turn 10 yeah

[gritty anvil]

i almost killed him

i was like 3 dmg off

[cursive crypt]

Double kuon or coc climb

[gritty anvil]

my list not running serpent

so i dont have that extra reach

but on ladder

i can beat rune

[cursive crypt]

To be fair Anne grea kuon and dclimb in hand is hard as fuck to beat

[gritty anvil]

but not always

he didnt mulligan shit

he kept entire hand

it must have been godlike

and second game he just outgrinded me

sadly

[cursive crypt]

Second game? It's not a bo1?

[gritty anvil]

u can lose once

but second u out

[cursive crypt]

Oh with your wording I thought u were vs the same guy

[gritty anvil]

its basically u either reach 5 wins or 2 loses

and it ends

[cursive crypt]

Ye ik that

[gritty anvil]

nah

i lost to 2 different rune players

[cursive crypt]

Yeah I expected rune to be the most popular deck to bring

That's why imma bring forest as per usual

[cursive crypt]

🦆 🚬

[primal isle]

0-2 ez

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/916249904832208926/1390125622709325896/2x.avif

[gritty anvil]

but ye this game was literally unwinnable with my hand i had one evo left but that evo would not go to face anywhere anyways

[umbral seal]

You should absolutely be running serpent

[gritty anvil]

but not sure what to cut

maybe dark seal demons

[umbral seal]

Don't know what your overall list is but 3x rage of serpents is basically mandatory

There's no reason to not run it in any version of abyss

Dark Seal is good but it's not mandatory.

[gritty anvil]

ye maybe u right

because u can actually use it as removal

in worst case

[brisk adder]

He ded

[mystic tartan]

Free evolve

[umbral seal]

Actually, the more I think about Twin Gods, the more I like it.

Even outside of Abyss.

[mystic tartan]

I went 2-2

Amelia magus

Also I got no dclimb ready sadi

[blissful olive]

its a free evo so it should find a place

[gritty anvil]

bro

shocker i lost because i didnt draw single orchis

[wild gale]

Where your orchis at

[gritty anvil]

lmao dragon let live my orchis and i play 2 puppet shields

20 dmg

well it was 23

[fading echo]

nice fucking hand

[umbral seal]

I wouldn't run 3 theaters personally but you have rubies in the deck. Could be worse.

Hard match up for puppets anyway

[fading echo]

i remember someone saying if you used kuon on a table where the 3 mobs can't spawn you don't get the op gundam garbage

that was fucking lie because you get the garbage

[blissful olive]

[gritty anvil]

pepelaugh

astaroth

well it was lethal anyways

bruh what are these forest players in diamond they dont know how to play vs puppets or its bad matchup

[fading echo]

roach abuser got eudie'd

[teal rain]

ez

[cursive crypt]

can i do it

im so unluckty this run

roach always in the bottom 20 of my deck

[unkempt lava]

Group B is the baby league right?

Just when i crafted 2 tentacles i pulled 2

Nice game

[cursive crypt]

omaygat

bruh group b 3 wins got a lego for free

[gritty anvil]

who u lost to ?

[cursive crypt]

haven

roach in the bottom 12

of my deck

[warped granite]

Yoo congrats brother

[wild gale]

Wtf

[warped granite]

I got 2 2

[wild gale]

LUCKY

[wild gale]

Grrrr should I play roch

[cursive crypt]

you should, nobody is bringing sword or dragon

everyone plays rune and portal

quite literally free wins

as long as ur draw isnt absolute garbage

[teal rain]

I played against 4 sword and 2 abyss

lost once to abyss and thats it

[cursive crypt]

i played vs 2 haven, 3 portal and one dragon

[wild gale]

Hmmm

I should warm up my forest deck

You know

What's a so called ideal orest hand

[cursive crypt]

on turn 1?

[wild gale]

Yeah

I want to learn how to mulligan

[cursive crypt]

staff, fairy tamer, pond fairy, may

you need to keep one glade if theres no staff, and keep bayle if you have staff and fairy convocation/tamer

basically u always want a glade or staff

may is also amazing vs tempo decks

also its probably just me but i keep a roach vs free matchups like rune and haven

cause if i dont draw roach soon enough i would tilt

[gritty anvil]

potwasher said u should never keep roach

especially not vs control

because u just gonna draw into it

[cursive crypt]

lol

[wild gale]

Until you don't draw it and shit your pants

[cursive crypt]

thats why i said its probably just me

[gritty anvil]

u only one

[wild gale]

I wonder who that could happen to

[gritty anvil]

need one

pretty much

[cursive crypt]

because there are times i wanna neclk myself for not drawing a roach until turn 10

[wild gale]

Me too man

This shit is ceazy

[cursive crypt]

my only loss in the grand prix today vs haven

[wild gale]

You draw half your deck and you still don't have roach

[cursive crypt]

i had 2 staffs down

draws 2 a turn

[wild gale]

Fuck haven

[gritty anvil]

i remember this because i asked him in chat if he ever keep roach vs some match up

[cursive crypt]

and still no roach on turn 8

[wild gale]

Darkhaven grace is so annoying

[gritty anvil]

and he said no

[wild gale]

Grrrrr

[gritty anvil]

but i dont know maybe u are better roach player

[cursive crypt]

no im just speaking from experience

cause the only way i lose to haven or rune

is if i dont draw a single roach

the rest of the stuff can be drawn

i know its not the correc t thing to do cause roach will not be playable before turn 6 at least

but it saves me a lot of tilt

[warped granite]

If you can handle surviving and harassing with roach in hand keeping roach seems reasonable

Like Vs sword maybe not but Vs rune where they don't do anything until grea, maybe fine

I think someone counted the probably you don't get roach by turn 8 is 5%? So yeah everyone will use that info differently

[true abyss]

Any rune pros here?

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Each deck will have at least 3 legendaries...right?

[cursive crypt]

Well I guess I'm lucky as fuck then because it happens way too often

[cursive crypt]

Nah 1 legendary each just like this set's free deck

[true abyss]

[cursive crypt]

Strong as fuck card bruh

Fanfare??

[wild gale]

I'm trying abyss

[cursive crypt]

That card is aluette on fucking crack cocaine and meth

[wild gale]

Wtf is nemesis

Abyss?

[gritty anvil]

is that allouhette on 6 without needing evo ?

[cursive crypt]

Nemesis =portal

[wild gale]

Wait

There's no way right

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

THERE IS NO WAY THEY FUCKING PRINTED ALOU THAT DOESN'T NEED EVOLUTION

[gritty anvil]

thats broken af

and if he survive

[cursive crypt]

[gritty anvil]

u dead

becaus on super evo he attack twice

[wild gale]

I'm going to orbital strike whoever designed this card

[true abyss]

This gold card is one of the best cards in the game,let's make a legendary version

[wild gale]

What in the fuck is the super evolve condition for

Alou is already S tier

They made a S+ tier card and then added that super Evo condition to it

Meanwhile dragon gets that dogshit 8 cost card

[cursive crypt]

It should have storm as well why not man

[wild gale]

The 5 cost it summons needs barrier and aura

[cursive crypt]

[wild gale]

Just to make sure it really fucks you over

[cursive crypt]

They went easy on us

Now portal doesn't have a dead turn

4 coin alouette, 5 alouette 6 that guy and 7 coin ralmia

Devs finally fixed portal

No longer C tier

[warped granite]

cygames: "all of you are equally my favourites"
portal << "it's you, by a lot"

we'll see how it goes in practice tho

oh no brother is cygames pilled

[umbral seal]

Nope, just one as usual

[wild gale]

F tier deck saved

Kuncussion are you seeing this shit

There's no way they actually made that new portal Lego right

[umbral seal]

Y'all are freaking out because y'all did not play the first game

None of this surprises me nor bothers me

I've seen way more broken shit

[warped granite]

i got my orchis leader just in time

that guy's super evo is not very useful though if i get it correctly

because almost none of the artifacts summoned will attack on their 1st turn

[umbral seal]

No, I'm pretty sure the super evo means he can attack twice

Making him better for removal when he comes down

[wild gale]

Yeah but I moved to 2 because it has less broken shit

[warped granite]

oh yeah this follower, not the artifact

[wild gale]

I can't believe they saw aloulette be broken as an evolve and said we should make a better one

[warped granite]

he doesnt generate gear at least

[cursive crypt]

5/4 stat line as well

why

he summons a 5 cost unit as a 6 cost and has 5/4 stat line

[wild gale]

Just to really make portal good

They're too weak rn

[wild gale]

Portal S+ next patch

Like you can only lose as portal if you brick next patch

[umbral seal]

Possible, but we'll see.

To be clear, when I rate something "S+", that means I think it's better than every other deck by a significant margin. Meaning only one deck can be S+

That's a great card but I don't think it's enough to push portal into being S+

[blissful olive]

That Abyss card is actually really good

Imagine having like a bone manster down and then you pop ambulance and throw that on the field that might be the play

I love TTS

[cursive crypt]

It has storm

[blissful olive]

Yea

[cursive crypt]

It's good if you just have a crypt down

[blissful olive]

Yup

i think shes gonna be really strong

[warped granite]

aggrobyss is back?

[true abyss]

Where are all the rune mains?

[blissful olive]

fuck rune

[primal isle]

damn I think 16 damage with 2 of them and 2 cemetaries to crack

[true abyss]

I need help in refining my deck and mulligan guide

[warped granite]

this seems good

[blissful olive]

yeah not bad

[wild gale]

Not bad yeah

It draws low value cards from your deck so your deck can draw higher cost cards

Also the 0 cost can do some interesting setups

[cursive crypt]

0 cost samurai seems good

[warped granite]

samurai or the summoned lancer can kill someone in the field with follower strike

[mystic tartan]

gimme the update

[wild gale]

Thanks guys

Got instantly farmed by sword playing forest

Fuck this stupid forest deck

I have dogshit luck with it

[umbral seal]

luck

[wild gale]

It is luck

I drew glades way too late

May appeared too much and I had nothing to combo off

[umbral seal]

If you find yourself repeatedly blaming luck, which you have been since day 1

[wild gale]

Man this shit is fucking luck

Kuncussion your ass don't even play this ddck

[umbral seal]

There's a good chance the reason you're getting rinsed is due to more than luck

Correct, I don't play Forest because it is one of the hardest decks to pilot

I do play Rune, which is the 2nd hardest deck to pilot, and while there are instances where you lose to bad draws, your win rate is still largely within your control

You will never see improvement with your mindset

[wild gale]

Because it's actually luck

Turns out zirconia is hard to wipe without your board clear cards

And drawing 3 roaches bricks your hand and makes you shit blood

Better off playing sword man

[mystic tartan]

If Sword overwhelme u its literally joever

[mystic tartan]

Glad that Rune gonna get that 3 cost

Gonna need that shit

[wild gale]

Dude fuck forest

When I play it I always fucking brick

When my opponent plays it they have perfect setup

[umbral seal]

Rune is already very strong without it but it'll help, yes.

[wild gale]

[mystic tartan]

No godWood or no glade moment

[mystic tartan]

True Rune is very strong if u get ur cards

Bro Abyss getting good cards

Might play this craft

[umbral seal]

Mango will be stuck in what, maybe B rank a month from now, still complaining about "luck"

As if he plays every turn perfectly

[mystic tartan]

[wild gale]

I have godwood but godwood always draws me shitty cards

[umbral seal]

Yeah, this would be the absolute nuts tbh

[mystic tartan]

U don't believe in ur cards

Go Yugi mode

Destiny Draw

[wild gale]

No I don't want another copy of roach give me lily

[wild gale]

No I will be playing aggro sword and slaughtering everyone

[blissful olive]

surely

[umbral seal]

You could literally do that right now. But it won't matter. You are naturally inclined to blame everything except your own inability. You do the same with fitness as well.

[blissful olive]

just play aggro forest dont need to combo much or think

[wild gale]

Who cares kuncussion keep yapping lil bro

I'm trying to figure out forest while you flap your gums

That's why I'm playing it and not aggro sword

[umbral seal]

You're trying to figure out how to blame your next series of losses on "luck"

I'm just responding between games

[mystic tartan]

Can i see ur Rune deck bro

[umbral seal]

It's nothing special, but one sec.

[mystic tartan]

[mystic tartan]

ty

[true abyss]

Ayo what are they doing

[fading echo]

unplayable card though it's not a waifu

[true abyss]

Is the 3 demoic call worth vs the +1 on 2x spells you have?

[umbral seal]

3x demonic calls gives you significantly more routes to lethal with a turn 10 kuon.

That is not a flex slot.

[true abyss]

Won't the earth thingy come in the way? You play a 0 mana demonic call, 2 spots taken, you play kuon, you can't summon the 2/1, you get an 11/12

[umbral seal]

No, you only need 4 open spaces for Kuon and you only need to sac the demonics at the start before playing Kuon

Any shikigami that is destroyed during your turn buffs noble shikigami

It doesn't need to be absorbed

[true abyss]

Oh i didn't know that

[blissful olive]

2 days

[umbral seal]

I've seen a lot of shit from other rune players. They taught me a lot

[blissful olive]

LETS GO GREA

RIGHT BEHIND YOU ANNE

[true abyss]

I'm kinda excited for the new legendary too

Infinite respawn as long as you have earth ticks

[umbral seal]

That earth rite legendary is very underrated

Fellas forgot when Mordecai was terrorizing the SV1 ladder

[true abyss]

What do you think about replacing 1x william with the 5 mana 1/1 that scales with spellboost

[umbral seal]

Bad idea because the deck's weakness is wide boards, not big single targets

[blissful olive]

problem with the dirt lego is its not kuon

like ud have to run both still

but iirc we havent seen the 2nd lego

[umbral seal]

Cygames is not going to dedicate both legendaries to dirt rune

[true abyss]

Another BS spell

[umbral seal]

That's just not happening

[blissful olive]

i mean dirt needs help

SB doesnt

[gritty anvil]

lmao same

well i wasnt forest but also 0

[true abyss]

What did you use?

[gritty anvil]

pip boy

u got 5 wins ?

[blissful olive]

rune atm at least maybe this will change in the next set in august but

[gritty anvil]

abyss

[blissful olive]

it has to stay hybrid or it cant function

[gritty anvil]

lost to 2 runes

[umbral seal]

Dirt is just lacking support. The cards they currently possess are not bad. When I play against dirt, what they can currently do is strong. They just lack a strong late game that isn't kuon (although I've run into hybrid dirt runes on ladder who do this anyway)

[gritty anvil]

one had complete nuts he kept entire mulligan i lost to 23 dmg kuon

[true abyss]

I don't get the grand pri, if you lose in group A you get another chance in group B? Rewards are the same?

[umbral seal]

I would comfortably bet money that the 2nd legendary is not going to be earth rite

[gritty anvil]

and second just outgrinded me he wasnt lucky or anything

rewards are almost same

but ppl do it for that flair

that flair is very rare

[umbral seal]

Nope, went 0-2. It was rough.

[gritty anvil]

because u have only one chance to get it

[true abyss]

I see

[gritty anvil]

u too ? wtf

[umbral seal]

Sometimes fellas draw like gods.

Shit happens

[gritty anvil]

but ye i was checking my replays and i dont even think i did misplays

ye its still rng tbh

[wild gale]

Looks like people here go 5-0 or 0-2

[gritty anvil]

i know abe went 5-*

5-1

but he playe forest and hes really good wit hit

funny is he lost to match up thats like forest favorable a lot

he just never draw roach

[wild gale]

Forest is so brutal compared to any other class

Runecraft hardest choices are picking lethal between kuon and coc

[gritty anvil]

also my internet connection went down not long after i ended my GP

holy shit

i would be so mad

[wild gale]

While you're juggling resources

[gritty anvil]

if my internet connection went down during match

[blissful olive]

[gritty anvil]

i think rune might be safest choice

for tournament decks

[true abyss]

I don't like forest aesthetically

[gritty anvil]

forest kinda too

[blissful olive]

rune has a point where u just win if u make it there

[gritty anvil]

yes

which was my oponent

[blissful olive]

d climb hades = gg unless u draw servants the whole time lmao

[gritty anvil]

he was able to survive with 4 hp

to turn 10

and i died

i had like 19 hp

still died

[blissful olive]

if they pull the 1 hp card its basically gg

[true abyss]

Not if my opponent is also rune and who went 2nd, used extra mana to get to 10 1st and then otk me

[wild gale]

Rune is a lethal machine

[true abyss]

[gritty anvil]

it wasnt astaroth

[wild gale]

It's fucking crazy

[blissful olive]

gap

[gritty anvil]

it was double kuon

[blissful olive]

[wild gale]

That's what I'm saying

[gritty anvil]

but i knew he had nuts

he kept entire mulligan

[wild gale]

Hardest choice is choosing kuon or coc

[blissful olive]

if u can win with kuon u do that

[gritty anvil]

not really most important is to have climb

[blissful olive]

coc has a tiny bit of rng

[gritty anvil]

if u have climb in opening hand

u chillin

[wild gale]

[gritty anvil]

its very likely u draw into kuon

or cock

[wild gale]

Or you can just draw climb

[gritty anvil]

on 10

[gritty anvil]

well u want it optimally in opening hand

[true abyss]

If you don't get dclimb early, you kinda fucked ngl

[wild gale]

Yeah

[gritty anvil]

but of course u can still discount it

to 0

until 10

even if u draw it later

[wild gale]

There are a lot of ways to spellboost

While Anne buys you time

[cursive crypt]

mango maybe u run bad forest list bro

my list is the best frfr

[gritty anvil]

also spellboost gettin another nuts gold

[wild gale]

How do you juggle resources abe

[blissful olive]

yea

[gritty anvil]

own

owen

[cursive crypt]

just dont have unplayable cards in your hand

[gritty anvil]

spellboost still gonna be one of the highest tier decks

in meta

nothing really changes

with new set

[wild gale]

Is fey twinkle toes still run

[cursive crypt]

yea spellboost gonna be the same tier

[gritty anvil]

forest might go down bit

[wild gale]

The 2/1 that gives +1/1 on combo

She feels super bad

[cursive crypt]

i run one

beast fighter is filler card

[gritty anvil]

only one fey

shes not great right

[cursive crypt]

i would cut fey if not for forest matchups honestly

[wild gale]

She's omega bad

[cursive crypt]

forest/sword

shes good

[wild gale]

Basically you need a bunch of fairies to activate her

[gritty anvil]

fay actually gonna be played 3 times in pixiecraft lol

[cursive crypt]

all the cards are playable at least

i cut everything that isnt playable

[gritty anvil]

oh there used to be card in forest 2 drop

[wild gale]

Thinking about cutting aria too

[gritty anvil]

that give barrier

on combo

[wild gale]

She's eating into my super evo

[gritty anvil]

u guys remember her name

[cursive crypt]

i dont play sv1

[blissful olive]

[cursive crypt]

yea aria is just not it

[blissful olive]

i stopped sv1 a few sets in

[cursive crypt]

divine thunder tho

actually clutch af

[wild gale]

I won with her a few times

[cursive crypt]

u will win with aria

[wild gale]

But man

She's just so slow

[cursive crypt]

1/20 games

not worth running

[blissful olive]

yeah DT is good ima try to fit more in my new decks

[gritty anvil]

https://shadowverse-portal.com/card/102131030?lang=en

roach would play this

for sure

oh it wasnt even combo

just fanfare

[wild gale]

I think you're right by removing Olivia too

I draw too many Olivias

[cursive crypt]

2 olivias = brick

[wild gale]

Which is 2

Fuck

[gritty anvil]

forest deck is so cheap lol

[cursive crypt]

one is okay

[gritty anvil]

doesnt even need single lego

[wild gale]

Yeah I think my main problem is a deck list issue

Olivia is a giant liability because she can mill you

[cursive crypt]

like i draw 2 glades and 2 god staffs often enough, olivia is kinda nice in the games where draw is nowhere to be found

its just htere to make your deck more consistent

but drawing 2 olivias made me wanna smash my taable

cause one will be just clogging my hand forever

[wild gale]

And hand is way too important to have one clog

You're right

I'm removing all my brick cards rn

[blissful olive]

erm

[cursive crypt]

like idk how some people play with that 7pp girl that destroys

actual shit unplayable card

divine thunder does the same for 4pp

[blissful olive]

who

[cursive crypt]

and it can remove shit with aura

[blissful olive]

rodeo ?

or

[cursive crypt]

like the gundam and kuon shikigami

nono

the blue girl

in forest

[gritty anvil]

@cursive crypt https://shadowverse-portal.com/card/701141010?lang=en roach would run this right

[cursive crypt]

7pp

[blissful olive]

blue girl 7 pp ?

oh

the ward kill 1 ?

or

[cursive crypt]

yes thast one

unplayable card

[cursive crypt]

yes for sure

ehh actually

prob not

you run 3 carbuncle alrady

and bug alerts

3pp is too expensive

[wild gale]

6/8 girl when she gets hit with that Sylvia super evolve

[cursive crypt]

i just have 0 idea how people play with 6/8 girl

so unplayable

its not like the body is gonna survive a turn

[blissful olive]

she was a good filler card early but not now yeah

[wild gale]

Gets fucked by orchis mukan Cerberus etc etc

[gritty anvil]

i once had turn that i had no removals for her and she hit me for 10 face dmg lol

[wild gale]

[gritty anvil]

i still won

[wild gale]

Ok abe

[cursive crypt]

roach still has 2 flex cards and i just chose divine thunder and beastman

[gritty anvil]

beastman seems ass

i never see ppl playing him

[cursive crypt]

its playable

i used to play the grasshopper

[wild gale]

Better than fey

Dying to puppets

[cursive crypt]

i used to run grasshoppper instead of the beastman

[gritty anvil]

yes

[cursive crypt]

but eh i decided if i dont draw roach it is what it is

[gritty anvil]

ppl run grasshoppers

[cursive crypt]

beastman is cheaper and more playable

[wild gale]

Grasshoppers look hard

Very expensive

[cursive crypt]

divine thunder is kinda useful vs aura mfs

[gritty anvil]

ye thats main reason i putting one thunder in some decks

for gundam or kuon

or ambush shit

[cursive crypt]

yeah, and its not that expensive either

doesnt require evo

just a really solid card

[gritty anvil]

ye its better than apollo

in a lot of cases

dafuq why neptune doesnt count as marine aswell

[cursive crypt]

shes humanoid

[warped granite]

potwasher went 0-2 it is what it is

[gritty anvil]

for real ?

[warped granite]

he said a few mins back yeah

[gritty anvil]

lmao its really ppl either go 5-1 5-0 or 0-2

[warped granite]

i went 2-2 if you want a counter kek

[gritty anvil]

i wish i got atleast pack lol

[warped granite]

boring ventrist

*centrist

[gritty anvil]

but ye u can be best but if oponent draw better than u

u cant do this

[warped granite]

yeah it's very easy to be super unlucky in the span of 2 games

serenity prayer the game

[wild gale]

@cursive crypt your list is way better

I took some losses

But 0 unplayable cards in hand

[blissful olive]

this sounds good but for 6 nah

[wild gale]

Wow runecraft

[cursive crypt]

Well it's still a roach deck so not that easy to pilot

[wild gale]

Got a cheap board clear

[cursive crypt]

But yeah you will less likely brick your hand in my experience

[wild gale]

Abe

[wild gale]

I think roachcraft is cooked

[blissful olive]

+2-2 means it can buff or be used as kill spell

thats really fucking good

[wild gale]

We might as well start crafting portal

[wild gale]

Crazy card

[blissful olive]

kill spell or a buff thats fucking crazy

[cursive crypt]

Good card for face dragon

[chilly viper]

artifact kinda fun to play

[wild gale]

Yeah because it's easy to win with

[cursive crypt]

Yeah roach will most likely go down a tier or two

[chilly viper]

also why isn't cannon more played

[wild gale]

[cursive crypt]

Next patch

[wild gale]

I predict 2

[chilly viper]

cannon literally clears board with how much u fuse shit

[wild gale]

Roach is already hard enough to play

[wild gale]

Because you can just summon the 5/3 with alouletee

[mystic tartan]

facts

[chilly viper]

i need a deck with a wincon that isn't dependent on 3 cards

[mystic tartan]

i meet a guy that just saved their demonic

destroy my ass

[wild gale]

Rune having a tough ass time deciding on kuon or cock lethal

Man this deck is so hard to pilot

[cursive crypt]

Dw cheeze next set they giving portal 3 more cards so you can have omega curve

[chilly viper]

nah but only 3 damage

[blissful olive]

[wild gale]

Forestcraft on life support

[chilly viper]

late game u have shit evolved and u can't clear it

[wild gale]

In late game you use sonic boom

8 cost summon exodia artifacts

[chilly viper]

ew that card is ass

the minions are ephemeral right

[wild gale]

It's not

[chilly viper]

wait what

[wild gale]

That's only for doomwright

[mystic tartan]

BROOOO

[wild gale]

The rest stays on the field

[mystic tartan]

LETS GOOO

can clear fucking sword

with that shit

[chilly viper]

ohhh

[gritty anvil]

bro that removal is so good

[mystic tartan]

Chaos Flame

Rune Silver Spell

3PP

X starts at 0. On Spellboost: Increase X by 1

Deal X damage split between all enemy followers.

[chilly viper]

illya lied to me!!!

[mystic tartan]

[cursive crypt]

3 cost William is crazy man

[mystic tartan]

gimme that

oh its split

well still good

[gritty anvil]

doesnt matter if its split

[cursive crypt]

Bro who cares I'm already getting hit by William for 20 aoe

[mystic tartan]

yeah just spellboost it up

[cursive crypt]

20 damage split still clear everything

[gritty anvil]

oh thats interesting card

[chilly viper]

rune has so many clears

[gritty anvil]

can be removal or buff

[cursive crypt]

Aragavy is 5 cost and does 7

[chilly viper]

yea william is 6 cost but does infinity damage

[wild gale]

Only affects havencraft players so idc

[mystic tartan]

Filene leader

pls give me

[gritty anvil]

damn thats a lot of bodies wtf

[mystic tartan]

Cygames

[gritty anvil]

thats so much stats for 6

[chilly viper]

pay up bro

[mystic tartan]

nah im just going to get lucky

i got 2/3 Daria

i can do it

[wild gale]

Yeah it's giga good

[gritty anvil]

thats 11/11 for 6

[wild gale]

Abyss S+ tier next patch

[gritty anvil]

also omega annoying to remove it

[mystic tartan]

so far Dragon is the most shit ones

[gritty anvil]

thats better than juggler

[mystic tartan]

[gritty anvil]

for sure

[mystic tartan]

everyone else got good legos

[wild gale]

8 cost reduce deck cost by half

[mystic tartan]

yeah and doesnt clear board

[wild gale]

It would be good if it draws 2 cards as well

[mystic tartan]

honestly if it has like kill 2 follower when super evo

[wild gale]

At least 1

[cursive crypt]

8 cost 4/4 do nothing

[blissful olive]

if it affected in hand too

[chilly viper]

why

[blissful olive]

but yeah meme card for now

[mystic tartan]

facts

[wild gale]

You forgot ward haven is Beeg next set?

[chilly viper]

oh hehe

[wild gale]

AOE matters

[chilly viper]

but fuck man i don't wanna be a ward frog

[blissful olive]

i might run 3 of these tbh

[chilly viper]

i wanna be a falcon frog

make darkhaven grace infinity engage

[mystic tartan]

where is the other rune lego

[blissful olive]

no where

[mystic tartan]

only 1 so far

[blissful olive]

not shown

[chilly viper]

lilathema or something?

[mystic tartan]

yeah

its that one only

for now

[cursive crypt]

But man I'm still dreading the fact that artifact has 6 alouette now in their deck

[wild gale]

Anyway Abe how you feel being the grand prix champion

[mystic tartan]

well if its for dirt thats fine too

im interested in dirt

[wild gale]

Let's join artifact bruddah

[mystic tartan]

if its good ill play

after the update

[wild gale]

I'm afraid the time of sword and roach is over

[cursive crypt]

It's just business as usual bro

[cursive crypt]

I only have one ralmia 💀

If anything I will try puppet

[chilly viper]

i wanna try artifact cus i feel like u don't need legendary cards that much right

[wild gale]

Portalcraft is so fucking crazy

[wild gale]

NOPE

it's a Lego heavy deck

[chilly viper]

oh which

[cursive crypt]

Orchis, ralmia, the new shirtless Lego

Eudie as well

[chilly viper]

nvm

[cursive crypt]

People will probably cut orchis tbh

Cut it to one or two

[chilly viper]

so the only class where u don't run legendary is forest

[mystic tartan]

two i think

[mystic tartan]

they will

i dont think Roach gonna be top tier after the update

[wild gale]

Portal has so many good cards they're cutting orchis

That's how fucked the situation is

[cursive crypt]

[wild gale]

[chilly viper]

i forgot that u can play orchis regardless of which portal u play

[mystic tartan]

Yurius incoming

Odin incoming

Roach

[gritty anvil]

this is good to combo with exela

or mummy evolved

[mystic tartan]

man why the bp leader sucks ass

its not a girl

=

bad

[gritty anvil]

ye

2 guys

so far

[mystic tartan]

where is my waifu

[gritty anvil]

[wild gale]

It's a

[mystic tartan]

[mystic tartan]

shouldve been free

[gritty anvil]

they using good stuff

[mystic tartan]

aint no way im buying BP for that dude

[gritty anvil]

on banners

[wild gale]

I agree

I'm not buying the BP

[mystic tartan]

im just gonna be saving money for now

[gritty anvil]

i mean BP is still a lot of value to buy regardless

[mystic tartan]

i still have that bundle

[gritty anvil]

but u dont really need it

[mystic tartan]

i just want to buy 1 bp

[gritty anvil]

why 1

[mystic tartan]

nah nvm

[wild gale]

I only buy BP for limbus

When is the Collab coming

[mystic tartan]

if leader is good im prob buying

[wild gale]

[gritty anvil]

thats what i want to do aswell

[mystic tartan]

the samurai tempted me but nah

[warped granite]

kinda hot

[mystic tartan]

she kinda cute

[gritty anvil]

u are stinky sword player ?

[cursive crypt]

Isn't sword one of the most popular class

[gritty anvil]

yes

[cursive crypt]

I would say sword and rune are top 2

[chilly viper]

hear me out guys

[mystic tartan]

im sword and rune

rn

[chilly viper]

lilith the succubus leader

[gritty anvil]

sword is easy to pilot and pretty strong

its very consistent

they just need few face dmg and wait albert turn

also almost ever ysword player is talented enough to have zirkonia on evo

i dont know how they do it

[cursive crypt]

Yeah it's actually so hard to deal with especially if they draw 2 valse

Valse is making it impossible to get tempo back

[warped granite]

only when i play other decks and face sword on ladder

[gritty anvil]

ye valse kills everything early

pretty much

nobody survive 5 dmg

[hazy lily]

I just let them flood the board early and wait for their Zirconia

Then Salefa

[gritty anvil]

and theny 2 followers have above 3 hp and u cry

[wild gale]

You got me

[hazy lily]

Fucks alot of ppl cuz theyre braindead piloting the same every round

[wild gale]

This is why Im so mad about forest

I feel like sword gives the same dmg output for like 1/50 of the effort

[hazy lily]

Most of them panic and try to push dmg pre 9 with Albert

[gritty anvil]

its like me i though i was safe using calamity breath for his zirkonia but he didnt traded with her

he traded with some 2 drop

and she had 6 hp

and i lost

this is gonna happen a lot with that new aoe spell

and that deal only 3 dmg

ppl will learn to play around it

[hazy lily]

The only hard matchup for haven for me personally is puppet

Cuz of orchid

[cursive crypt]

nah forest is imposible ]

[hazy lily]

I killed Forest many times Thor

[mystic tartan]

bro im so gonna craft Odin

[cursive crypt]

portal is only hard if they have 2 orchis

[hazy lily]

Tho

[mystic tartan]

fuck ur amulet

[gritty anvil]

odin or ordine

[mystic tartan]

[hazy lily]

If you push dmg early with storm haven forest doesnt do shit

[gritty anvil]

im def crafting at least 2 odins

[cursive crypt]

i feel like u need to draw all your birds while the foerst dude does noting for you to win

[gritty anvil]

if i dont get any in packs

[cursive crypt]

tiger does fuck all vs forest

[wild gale]

It's still going to be annoying af

[chilly viper]

bro mango u should play haven to be based

[cursive crypt]

mainyu always dies

[wild gale]

It gets rune spellboost

And stalls time for Anne and grea

[hazy lily]

Well i buy the whole stepup again anyway

[blissful olive]

manyu will get crashed into sure but he can become a problem

[wild gale]

Get to late game with rune and you're pretty much gucci

[chilly viper]

only noobs will let u get away with mainyu alive for a turn

[blissful olive]

yeah dirt helps a lot with early game too

[gritty anvil]

i just hope ramp dragon is better than now

its so shit to play

[wild gale]

They also have sage to recover all their fucking health

[cursive crypt]

32hp class

[hazy lily]

sv1 meta

Ramp max hp