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now you understand my frustration when i play roach too much lol
my record was still 3 roaches in the bottom 7 cards
actually wanted to slam my desk
Then the 3 roach buddies show up in your opening hand to clog it up

I do feel sv is a very finisher heavy game for a lack of better word it's so ez to be screwed
Still better than no roach though
Your board doesn't matter
They are all ways to make your finisher matter
board swings ebery turn because of evo points
There are so many ways to wipe a board
That's why the JP's called this game eromenko
@umbral seal gonna try your abyss list
3 feet girl and 3 wardbert already 18k spent
man i hope i get any kind of luck on packs
Bad card, honestly. And I usually don't say that for new reveals.
Super evolving for +1/+1 is a joke. Nonja is bad because it's not that difficult to remove a bane unit, without sacrificing your own unit. She'd need rush to get immediate value. Super evo'd Ceres is an exception

its not great yea
lol rose queen support ?
also amataz support
this not gonna be played in roach right
seems too slow
Dragon Soul Strike
6pp Gold Dragoncraft Spell
Subtract 2 from the cost of a card in your hand.
Deal 3 damage to all enemy followers. this card seems nuts
Turn lapis into a fairy 
it might look like its worst calamity breath but
Yeah there's no way in hell this can be played in roach
they fact u can make cheaper any card can make it busted
Subtract 2 cost?
Fucking nuts
i mean at base its worst than calamithy breath but that subract makes it much better beacuse u can even play 0 cost 2 drop with it
or like i said u can cheat out cockytus sooner which can be huge
in ramp
Doesn't calamity breath deal damage to all followers
I had to double check because I couldnt believe it too

This card is a better calamity breath on all fronts
Why would you ever use breath over this
u can make also forte 4 mana means u can play 2 fortes on 10 lol
@wild gale should i spin a wheel to decide if i wanna play forest or abyss
Play abyss if you hate thinking
Forest requires maximum thinking
Which doesn't matter if you don't draw roach

i've been thinking of playing 3: puppet, forest, abyss
but obviously i cannot afford to play puppet because 0 orchis
Abyss is unplayable without a bunch of legos
i have them
my account is an abyss account
All 3?
i think so
no
my account rolled all the abyss legendaries
that's why i'm having problems playing any class
I had a balanced mix
Just play abyss then
It's A tier
I'm thinking about playing abyss if I pull that new abyss lego
4 medusa? 
One more Cerberus
I have 3 medusas too
No agavy or cer though
I can craft them
are u f2p
Yeah?
wtf
I'm f2p in everything but limbus
btw u can actually make cockytus t6 in perfect world
thats fucking crazy
but u need to ramp twice
how do u have so many vials
They compensated a bunch

Also I won a weekend tourney
I'm thinking about playing kuncussion's swordcraft for the next one
I'm too lazy
To do 4 forest matches
Calamity Breath is bad because it's not one sided AoE. This is.
Kuncussion do I 100% need kagemitsu to play sword
My RNG is bad
So I didn't get a single copy

No, a lot of midrange lists don't even run it anymore. The aggro lists do because they just super evo him for storm.
Like this?
I don't like that list but I guess you could run that.
well thats not even issue in many cases because u have no board usually
but its still disadvantage for sure
in some cases
I just take a recommended list ingame and it works well enough
hard to go real wrong with midrange sword
Dragon cannot hold board right now because the craft is not a good spot. This still does not make calamity breath good.
When dragon is in a good enough spot that they can hold the board, you will not want to run calamity.
good thing about this spell new one is that u can even play 2 drop with it for free
which is really nice
and u can also outplay oponent with some combo later
like double forte for example
or lens + genesis
on 10
from hand
@umbral seal what do you think of this abyss deck
is 3x rage of serpents a must have
I will answer your question with a different question: why do you think 3x rage is in every list?
It's not on the same level of trying to play Sword without Albert but 2 mana - deal 3 damage to any target is insanely good.
it looks like i have to make 1x cerb, 2x rage of serpents and remove yuna
Yuna is not in every list but she's included in some lists to help with the forest match-up. The problem is that if Forest even draws average and you haven't forced them to use combo pieces up to turn 8, nothing outside of Amelia + Magus will save you.
Most ward units are understatted because they have ward.
Yeah without Yuna abyss is pretty dead vs forest
TBF almost every craft is pretty dead vs forest
i see
Up to 9 damage to face in a turn without board presence is insane
Could be 15 if Cygames re-prints a 4 mana Bloody Mary
We'll see in the next few days 
They definitely should not do that, though.
Abyss is already very close to S tier. Somehow, I still see Abyss downplayers 3 weeks in

New forest cards
Titania, Winged Queen
4PP 2/2
Fanfare: Summon a Fairy. Gain Crest, Titania, Winged Queen
Evolve: Select an enemy follower on the field and Transform it into a Fairy.
Crest: At the start of your turn, add a Fairy to your hand.
Garden's Guidance
2PP Spell
Fuse: Forestcraft cards
Draw a card. If this card is fused with at least 1 card, draw 2 cards instead.
Wow formatting sucks
Yeah, I saw them. First one does nothing for roach decks and if they're trying to give Rose Queen support, they need to address the elephant in the room, which is that Rose herself sucks.
I don't know why Forest is getting fusions too.

The 2 PP spell is really good
Hard to evaluate until I get more information.
But if you can consistently draw 2 for 2 mana
That's very good
Idk about titania , think she's meh but we don't need more good cards for forest anyways 
I think Forest should get good cards, but to support/create other archetypes.
Like I enjoyed playing Neutral Forest in SV1
Which played nothing like a typical Forest deck
That's fair
One of the most broken forest cards. Could deal 18 w/ Arriet if it was evo'd and good luck removing a 9/10 body with combat damage only.
crafted aggro dragon yesterday to climb a bit
braindead while playing persona
i think 90% winrate
such a joke
with all those runecraft andys and roachcucks who brick
i'm losing to the fucking practice mode ai
Yeah her effect is really good for most classes
For abyss especially because of the mummy too
i had 4 hp and an evo point
opponent had 11 hp
so it was just nice that i drew mummy
crazy
It literally does not, though. And your list is nowhere close to optimal.
nowhere close?
i'm probably missing like 2 legendaries that i'm hesitant to craft
Face dragon highroll always makes me cum
garyu is pretty op
back to sapphire
Apparently face dragon is the one class with good matchup vs forest
thats so cheap
And ig rune
yeah both work... rune is kinda eh~ if they throw anne though
i feel like haven is 50/50 depending on your draw and their boardclear
times ticking
Does the damage puppy spawn first or the heal one first?
I actually forgor
dmg i think
If the damage one spawns first it's quite straightforward then
Pop one amulet, deathslash a ghost, pop the 2nd amulet: three 3/1 ghosts and cerb and the 2/1 pup. Sac the 2/1. He's at 12. Super evo. He's at 11. Sac the 2nd pup. He's at 9. All ghosts go face.
That's lethal.
Mistress of the fanged is not a bad card but it shouldn't be in the deck.
I'm also 100% certain you're making misplays often
so i only need to replace mistress of the fanged right
thats not the topdeck i wanted
2 damage more than lethal even because it confirms to spawn 2 more damage puppies.
There's no board space for that if you have 3 ghosts on board
You spawn 1, sac it, then spawn the other

That's what Im thinking everytime I play face dragon
Also I didn't use this knowledge enough. I shouldn't be shy setting up 2 amulets
Face dragons also carry Apollo so this gon be fun
If you can safely put one down, you usually should
funcraft gj
he folded
kek
i knew i'm winning through tempo when i use the +1 early on
to pressure
this kinda of lethal would be sometimes missed on the spot
Yeah in a match pressure it's different for sure
No forte or fan? Yeah go next
yea
looks pretty lost
1 off lethal
ohnonono
yeah topdeck or lose
he played cocky
@umbral seal should play abyss more

NOWAYING
hes hacking me
help

BRO I CANT PLAY
had to go back to homescreen
fuck you cygames and your shitty server
indie company
wtf was that
guys i just won a game in a weird way
the fuck was that
some reaper came out and opponent lost
i find playing vs face dragon really easy because i always keep shit to deal with forte or put wards on her turn
0 cards in deck
last card is death
holy
so boring to play against sword
every card floods the board
zzzzzzzz
rune too
as soon as he reaches t5
i can concede
if u really hate board flooding from sword play ramp dragon they have so many aoes
my heavy aoe ramp dragon does really well againts sword
i just need to survive early game
which can be sometimes problem
ye sec i go in game
but ye u can add here more apollos calamity breath if u really hate sword
but ye this deck is ass vs forest
fighter going in
only way to beat forest is to fast ramp into cockytus or garyu and they cant properly remove it but again this deck have no storm
x3 cocky damn
3 cock is actually not really that bricky
because u can always discard it
with burnite
and its 10 dmg aoe
which is nice vs some stuff
ye but twilight is 9pp
or u can do 2 dmg and evo burnite
true
but ye with that reduce cost card aoe dragon gets and filene i think cockytus ramp might the the way
apollo gonna be run 3 times in every ramp dragon
i think
because it has really good synergy with filene spell
spamming face goes decently fast
ye aggro dragon is pretty good because it works well vs forest and rune but u get shit on with another decks like sword is kinda hard to beat with face dragon if they start warding too much it over
abyss is also really good vs aggro dragon
@umbral seal
?
wtf
yurius was a bloodcraft card
why tf is he in swordcraft
fuck swordcraft
holy earth rite
you dont like sword we get it 
i do like swordcraft
rally sword for example
or coin sword
or fuse sword
or evo sword

WHERE IN THE FUCK IS MY CARD DRAW MY ROACHES MY EVERYTHING
Very good card that fucks over board-centric decks. Funnily enough, this fucks other swords the hardest.
Only countered by decks like spellboost rune but Sword already has ways to deal with them if they don't high roll.
Nope.
Doesn't this fuck over a lot of finishers?

He has to be removed first so technically yes. I don't think he's giga broken, though.
the only thing to stop this fucking craft
bricked hands

I thought it was a skill issue craft but turns out it's luck issue as well 
Well, actually, Mango might be right. Because even in spellboost rune, Yurius needing to eat a removal to do Kuon on 10 delays it and potentially puts the opponent in range for Albert lethal if they weren't already.
I don't think I've seen a card in shadowverse that just straight up prevents attacking. Some mtg shit.
Then rune just stormy blasts it and sends kuon at your ass

Well, again, unless they have 11 mana, they have to delay their kuon on 10
Dimension climb into kuon
And they currently don't have a way to 7 damage for 0. They may get one in the future, though.
Yeah, d-climb does get past him.
crazy how luminous mage is enough to counter face dragon completely
what a joke actually
Dclimb is mad af
But we're still talking about one deck that has a situational answer to Yurius
Everyone else is pretty fucked.
Run odin to counter yurius

Does yurius or Odin effect start first?
I mean, you joke, but Odin will be in a lot of decks, imo
And Odin's should start first because the target gets banished before Odin is considered in play, I'm pretty sure
Still have not seen another ramp card so I guess I'm not playing dragon.

i love lapis!!!
wajaja
that's a thing?
i stalled too hard and they double dclimb me
damn you're a good guy fr
let's gooo
i beat a disgusting deck
this replay goes straight into my favorites
i think all the portal players are sleeping
Nobody did that for me so whenever I see someone like that I also never gave up for them 
haven't met any portal today
orchis player 
shhh
if you let them get to turn 9-10 for free u should expect that yeah
ye nothing u can do really
i cant do shit vs forest as haven either
just cant put enough pressure on the board for them to spend their bayles
Cos he misplayed om he couldn't kill you
i don't even know if i have lethal if he cleared my board
how can a cock hand not clear
wait wtf i just realised that card has 10pp 
ohh i guess he thought he could use the storm to kill me
bro wtf some sword player played around my calamity breath thats crazy
rune is so fucking cheap
PepeLaugh
He thought he could super evo kill someone and kill you
ahh that makes more sense
he already used all evos
well lucky jeanne was 1 hp more
i have lethal on hand
wat
xdd
why does olivia super evo not activate your follower's super evo effect
cause that would be the most broken shit ever
it does work on some cards like ceres
but thats about it
ok this look like 5 wins
nvm i propably still lose
lmao he topdeck lethal i was one turn from win
well im still A group
Nah, always make fellas earn the win. This ain't a charity. 

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Is the crest permanent? That's insanely strong
Gonna be a staple for every forest deck
Das a good tempo card
really like this card and the fuse card draw
yes
Maybe the meme queen will have her time in the next set
They need to give lapis aura effect 
Nah I think roach will run Titania, at least one copy
so u get atleast one storm
Idk he is too inconsistent
U don't really want to fill your hand with just fairies after turn 4
Max is 2
It's just a super high roll card
If I see 4 fairies in my hand after turn 4 my hand fuckin sucks lol
my hand is so beautiful 
another card for control forest 
its not very good
honestly i would run one copy in roach just for sword matchup lol
maybe
idc about that really only 7 card i need is sonic
but i dont rly plan on playing forest not making the cards
if i pull them sure
i wanna try wardbert
and foot dragon
and abyss
the other legendary is way better for forest
yeah
yeah abyss looks strong
shes a fairy maker
i need to see the other haven lego
well if u run odin yeah
do i have to run coc or what
ima run at least 1 in every deck lowkey
even if haven is still w/e i might go for it ward annoys so many ppl lol
but i wanna see havens 2nd lego
it better be good cause im losing all hope already
for haven?
yes
wardbert is mediocre at best
like wardbert is good 100% solid card but
u need more
hes like half the puzzle to making it good
i dont like playing a deck whose wincon is stall until your opponent is out of cards
yeah
im a fan of control deck but not something that has no wincon
yea
im honestly lucky i didnt pull burnite casue i think feetline will just eclipse her
but again need to see the 2nd lego the first girl aint that good
that dirt spell with the earth rite 10 seems garbage as fuck im ngl
3 mana give someone storm
and ban on ff
not bad
hmm the dirt one seems w/e yeah
does abyss have a card that has rush innately
just ghosts right '
kinda a more flexible mukan
this card actually turns any turn into the olivia lesser mummy combo
i think she will be good
nah they dont
just ginsex foxes
theres no rush card
if u enhance mino yes but nothing on its own
i'd cut mukan for that card in control abyss
it makes the 6pp juggler better as well so it can just exclusively revive ceres
i like juggler but i doint really wanna revive yuna or mukan
this card actually insane
just saw it
the dragon 1
board wipe and minus 2 to cost
thats really really fucking good
its super good
nothing crazy you can do with it
way better than calamity
i think its gonna see a lot of play
problem with this is it doesnt clear things like
allouete or w/e
and grea
well on turn 6+ it doesnt really clear anything unless u ramped twice or something
yeah i wouldnt run this in face ofc
so i just felt like its an ok card, you run it to make something cheaper
this is a ramp /control card
even if you ramped twice i dont think the 3 damage to all will be all too useful unelsss u are playing vs sword/forest
if theres a 10pp card thats good enough to make using this on the card worth it then that card would be amazing
but coc and that 10 cost drake are both meh
idk
yes
if u have tickets use them
did u think they would turn into the new pack or something
sword is now the best deck in the game
dont know if it matters
but it still kills ur turn
if u remove him does his effect go away? even if it does ur wasting ur big turn on him and u cant remove him with followers
yeah if hes no longer on the field the effect is gone
yeah dont think it matters tho
u cant crash into it and if u use removal not like u have anything else to play after that
basically no matter what ur locked for a turn
and then imagine they play a 2nd one lmao
its just gonna be an annoying card, its like a card that buys them a turn to prep for albert or something
and force an evo from opponent
well the thing is what evo
sylvia, lily, phildau all requires evo
only phil can really kill this
cause it has to be removal since u cant attack it
this cards broken as shit tbh
its remotely in the same ball park as foot dragon
she stalls a turn or ruins ur turn 7/8
but more annoying
this guy might force ppl to run other kinds of removal
divinte thunder is a card 
portal can run bullet from beyond as well, idk that card is really annoying when it forces you to spend evo point
but i think its not that broken
so far nothing beats anne&grea yet
from what theyve shown
im comparing it to the sword card since they do the same thing
but on a lesser scale
and they have to be on the field already its just not that good imo
the moment i won a game in grand prix, i'm immediately matchmade with a sapphire
anne grea -> anne grea -> kuon -> kuon
It's like that in a lot of games cause they draw so much
You kinda need to pressure them before Anne grea
i'm haven, there's no pressure in early game :)
i don't play mainyu anymore
wow apollo
u still auto lose to forest though
yea i put apollo in so i dont take too much damage before salefa comes down
ah that makes sense
its kinda inconsistent because it lacks card draw but i just dont wanan run ding dong and ruby
i run maeve though
i just pray i draw decent
unlimited vessel
maeve might be good next set, rn shes a bit too slow imo
its good against sword thjats about it
i love maeve so much, i'm a maeve enjoyer fr
i beat a sapphire haven
MAEVE DIFF BABY
i play like 5 vessels this game
lmao

yea it's shit like this where i don't get any clears
what can i even do here
should i run featherfall lmao
not getting pact early is pretty dead
u should cut that 1pp bird amulet
actually a bad card
once in 100 games u will have 3 of them down and all pop at the same time on turn 8
otherwise im not happy at all drawing them
i feel like it's useful though
i have won a lot of games with holy falcon
also i did very well wow
i want a lawyer
bro abe i wanna show u the VALUE of maeve+vessel

but my recording is 324 MB
no amount of convincing will make me like maeve as of now
Do you have a good mid range sword deck
I'm trying to avoid the inevitable
Of crafting kage

Also I got Amelia in my daily pack
What a troll
no idk what they run nowadays
unlimited vessel 
damn actually killed this fella on turn 6 lol
if your opponent is any other deck you would already lose
except sword maybe
but sword runs so much direct damage nowadays
ALL PATHS LEAD TO EXTINCTION 
AGucuckckfnsnana
I JUST FUCKUNG THREW AFTER NY ENEMY THREW
I FORGOT FUVKING SUEPR EVOKVE DANAGEDE
AHHAHAHHHAHAHAH

Man fuck
I could have gotten one more leeway
u playing in the grand prix?
i don't know how it works
My second attempt I only won 1 match
Dogshit game
did u use foret
Hell yeah, won against a master forest too my ego feeling lacari right now
No I used meta sword
Imma be fr I hate bricking with forest
At least when I brick with sword I have a chance
Won from this bricked ass hand too
Thinking of having apollo
Just to fuck other sword
Considering how many of them are running around why not
Yeah something like this
This wall can only be broken by abyss and haven
Maybe forest if they combo well too
I'm actually egoing so hard right now I won vs 2 portals 1 forest terrible ass matchups
i farmed all the runecraft players and went 4-1
(Most likely just lucky)
Lost against aggro sword which in theory should be my good matchup
if you dont draw all your ward unites vs sword and forest u just lose
Dude if only I didn't troll the first attempt
FUCK
I had it in the bag man
bruh this grand pri reward sucks
i lost against midrange sword but it was a close game, if i had one more 0 cost card in hand i woulda won
Treat it as free packs when you have the tickets
what did u play on your first attempt
I wouldn't buy entry with gold
Except if you're so confident you can 5 0 everything ig
apparently i'm "advancing to final stage in group B"
i was lucky ig. my first attempt i went 4-1
so that's on 15 july right
This phase should last for 3 days
Yeah 15 July will be the final
You can still attempt to go to group A, there are still 3 days
i got like 500rupies, a gold card and a pack
I played mid sword for both attempts
I fucking trolled the first attempt in the first round
Didn't account for super evolve lethal

You get more guaranteed
BROOOOOOOO
Group A is just cosmetics and ego group
I'm so fucking mad
I guess if you can win more you'll get more
Can't even pay more to brute force
Abyss
But the last portal game she bricked and didn't draw orchis
abyss? 
I don't even mind orchis with this deck tbh
It's pretty easy to clear her
I mean
idk its not about clearing orchis
It's easier to clear without her though
its about taking 10 damage for free
10 damage that doesn't matter if you already killed their ass

I try to get them in lethal range
Kagemitsu is actually so essential
Don't know why kuncussion is a hater
yeah hes like a free 5 damage ping
ye, in midrange u kinda wanna save some evo points
I don't Evo kage
in aggro u just wanna get them low so they are in range of centurion or tentacles
or albert
Oh I think I'm aggro then

Yeah basically kage makes other finishers more reliable
like imagine turn 8 kagemitsu respawned and u have centurion in hand
(sometimes you also don't need other finishers)
your super evo now deals 5 instead of 3
Yeah that just happened to me
It is what it is when you don't draw taunts 
no
Try
only one try and its free
2 tries I think? 2 days right
Damn it
my 5 matches
you only really get the sexy rewards if you go 5-0 lol
Group B gets the sexy rewards if they win all the final matches I think
that portal guy has to be shittiest portal player i've ever seen and i managed to lose
For final stage?
So it's group a finalists and group b winners
What about group A
4 wins?
group A u get the flashy title
Depends on what u mean by sexy ig, the rodeo sleeves are given to all right?
I will do everything to get that title
yeah, otherwise its just some packs and vials

that's why i said it's ass
i predict i only need 1 sleeve
nah rodeo card back looks sick tho
1 win*
That's because he survived ww2
Yeah group A gets the sleeve just by advancing there
i only have these sleeves 
Imma spend even money to get in
it's not possible right?
if u enter the tournament today (stage 2), you will be in gorup B
wait cheeze u bought BP but dont have most of the cards? 
i only bought BP and i almost have everything
except for rune cards
i'm f2p
i crafted a lot of legendaries though
wait nvm i thought the samurai card back is freom BP
i have 1.7k vials now 
paid one
the weekend tourneys have been good for me even tho i never won one
and we got free 3.5k last week
i never even win any match

but now that my deck is slightly better, hopefully i can win
f2p f2p
can u imagine playing 8 matches (i joined 2 tournaments), and winning none
I won one
3 2 is quite close though
lucky bastard 

It's just that your deck is crap
Anyway now that I have meta deck I should decimate the competition
you will draw 2 kagemitsu tomorrow every match
I have 2 kagemitsus only
Should be fine
What scares me Iis 3 centaur

i got so tilted yesterday that i ragespent 12k vials
i'm fucked for next patch
You're going to be fine
its fine bro we have 2 weekend tourneys before next set comes in
thats 7k vials

oh and the guild will give you 3.5k as well
i wish i can liquefy the other cards
like i'm not gonna touch the entire sword lineup
rune also
those two classes are never in my radar
actually you know what, fuck dragon as well
sword bboring
Haven is also flooding the board with interactable amulets 
Oh no turn 5 let me drop my feet girl
Turn 6 chalice
Turn 8 jeanne
but i do that to answer them

they started it first
Holy cope
Control players 
I love healing 20 health points ass class
i need a way to defend myself from albert
and obviously, to "summon 3 copies of steelclad knight, give them ward"

yes
you have to understand that my defensive play is because the enemy IS AGGRESSIVE
I think someone disagreed
but I thought if you get Maeve chalice that's huge value
Use that evolve to wipe that
You can also use chalice to wipe
I do understand and I thought it's boring as hell
Not to mention Jeanne
Control cucks always think their deck is the hardest but for the most part it's auto pilot

yea and i'm 1 evo down if i salefa, meanwhile you activated that with fanfare
abe disagreed
but i will be a maeve believer
he can stay a rodeo cuck
Hmm if she works she works
placing chalice and ending your turn is the most based shit ever
Maybe rodeo is better but is it craft him better idk
call me a control cuck
Yeah but now you have a 5/5 on board
I can't deal with that easily either
and +3 heal 
rodeo is based
I've been listening to control cucks coping since control warriors days in HS
maybe I should play those decks to cure insomnia
if rodeo has no cost limit when she summons amulets, i would play her
if theres a card in haven that doesnt require fucking evo to interact with board thatd be nice
making her summon shit ass amulets is pretty cringe
i mean rodeo is pretty much draw 3 and play all 3 cards
To stop memeing for a second though aggro vs control is always autopilot to a degree, aggro vs aggro or control vs control is where the fun lies










