#Shadowverse
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btw cerb on turn 8 can pull 15 face dmg
but u need 2 crypts on board
or others to be alive
man if abyss gets more sticky followers like bonemancer it can get out of control fast
yeah bonemancer is the best 3 drop in the game im sure
i need to start playing tier 0 decks if i want to reach a lot of wins in grand prix
so annoying to clear
i get too tilted oplaying forest
cause if my hand sucks i just get angry
i need to spam forest so i learn all the maths
but i was never forest fan
i had like least games played as forest
in og
one is for 2 roaches and the other is for 3 roaches
if you can combo more than 3 times before putting down a roach its always better to roach 3x
nah bro
and they have insane card draw engine
the only way u lose is if u dont draw any glade or staff
or your roaches
are on bottom of deck
but u only need 1 roach to win
pretty much
u just keep bouncing him
idk so many games i have the fist roach come in after ddrawing 20 cards
and i just wanna slam my desk lol
well but this exact thing can happen to puppets aswell
if they dont draw orchis
they cant win
yeah thats true, but it just felt extra bad when u keep drawing two or three cards per turn but never drawing shit
i read the official page for it
and honestly not sure if the prizes are that good lol
but ye im gonna play abyss i think
in this fuck playing meta
for now atleast
u can enter how many times u want ?
or how it work
oh 3 attempts
first oen is free and after u have to have a ticket or pay rupies
for stage one
3 attempts daily
even for champion
yeah its shit
its 5 packs only
i guess globe extra vials
2500
4 wins and champion isnt big difference
also 3 wins
is almost exactgly same
as 4 wins wtf
ye but why not give a guaranteed lego as well
well globe is almost lego of your choice

nah its good
honestly
there are no big gaps
between rewards
atleast u dont need to that tryhard this shit
depends if you win a lot on your free attempt
if you have to pay for like 4 attempts its probably just alright
i opened 1 ticket from park chest i think
i never got ticket
abyss is a very consistent deck tho u prob will go far with that deck
not sure if i wanna enter with abyss, forest or haven
i said fuck it and crafted 2 aragavy today
now i only have 2k vials lol
ye u just need to avoid forest
but skill between forest players
very vary
low ranks forest do tons of misplays
dude most forest players when i drop to ruby were so bad
probably learning
ye
exactly
difference between sapphire and ruby forest players
is actually big
bro i played vs some forest guy
who literally did nothing for 12 turns
he never played single roach
and just died
i dont know what he was doing
he also draw almost who deck
u need to pressure them so they dont get to collect free combo pieces for free
did he roach 3x or what
no i said he never played single roach
maybe he over drew all of them lol
should practice with me bro
thats true
he burned some cards
but not that many
but again he just need one roach
i can play forest and u abyss for practice
well not now but we can
maybe i need to try 3 mummy and razory claw list
like i think that one have higher chance winning
u evolve her and she will be annoying and push damage for free
u can heal with cerby if youre that desperate 
i mean i guess but thats pushing less dmg
also u sometimes need 2/1
just to clear board
so sometimes u cant even heal with her properly
i really dont like ceres, just not very necessary
u can evolve bat as well
if youre that low
well i use juggler
with olivia
and shes very good with juggler
well evo bat is nice to evolve but it screw future cerb
but vs aggro i guess its fine to evo
well its better than dying lol
bat
on turn 7
but ye vs slow decks
bat u never gonna play
pretty much
it rot in hand
Oh shut should I play the grand prix with forestcraft?
thats why i only run one yuna tbh, so i dont clog my hand with more than 1 bat

ye
Whatcha guys think

also its very strong with mukan
Is it Cerberus buff 
if your super evos
are gone
so after your super evos are gone u can even use it for soul premedition
btw vs slow decks
if u set 2 crypts on board
yeah but thats way late and its hard to win lategame unless u still have 3 medusas
ye
or 1 crypt
and 1 ghost from hand
its around same dmg
on 9
because u dont get 1 extra ghost on board but u get coco u can resummon aswell
its 14 face dmg on 9
with 3 ghosts
turn 8 is 15 with 4 ghosts
yeah its a lot of damage lol
quite a consistent deck so i might play it more
and not that tilting to play
i want to try running 2 darkseal demons
2 soul premodition
2 demons
i think im gonna craft third medusa
i really think shes important
i would run 2 premodition but i wouldnt run 2 demons
i actually think i lost many games
because i didnt have third medusa
vs sword
she is so op
portal too
rune
i got even premium aragavy lol
yea medusa is super good and u dont need to evo her as well
and 2 normal
ye medusa is literally better jeno
and jeno is also broken af
jeno actually sometimes can only clear 1 target
where medusa
always kills 3
without evo
Yes most broken class in the game bar none
Abyss is strong but the match up vs forest is so horrid
I lost to Sword
And diamond was all forest
if you draw miss bonemancer u can win vs forest otherwise its gg
u gotta keep their tempo down
if their board is weak ur ok
i use that and the amulet and shit but try to play around glade making them waste it on bullshit
This is why I always reroll for glade or staff if I don't get them at beginning
You must at least have one
just downloaded, can someone give a tldr on classes and what to do
i dont wana play forestcraft, thats all i know
Sword is recommended
what kinda deck do you usually play in card gaems
most legendaries i got were havencraft
depends on mood, last deck i played was reno warlock in hs
but i also enjoyed some smorc when i get tilted
haven is good but not very consistent cause the card thats supposed to stabilize you is mediocre
u might like abyss or haven then
sword and portal are high tempo classes
all my legendaries
i like combo but i hate the fairy aesthetic
well u need to craft like 4 legendaries to get haven goin
what about rune craft?
rune is kinda like warlock in the sense that u just draw ur entire deck
nah u need 3 dclimb and u have none
whats a cheap aggro deck that i can make rn
2 coc 
face dragon is cheap as well no? only lego u need is forte
Ye 3 forte
its just not S+ tier 
face dragon is only cheap when u cant handle the early fan
if u take 2 much dmg its gg turn 6
Thanks to grand prix I finally know how to operate this deck
Probably should have looked at a YT guide first

I match people low rank twice kek
Roachcraft
oh that shit ez
fucking summon squirrels and pixie bitches god staff juggle fella in the corner double level 1

I feel like I have no opportunity to use god staff early against good players
I have to slam their face so that they need to clean up my board
Somehow I managed to survive a 2 aloulette game
Whew
Roachcraft more like jugglecraft
It's in S+ but your brain gets set on fire
Portal and rune is way easier to handle

but it is best to just throw it out if ur not having to deal with turbo aggro fuckers
Or really dirty tempo
yeah but with forest u pre good early game unless u got hosed on draw
i play aggro so i dont care bout any of that
I got 2 copies of aria in the match I lost
2 matches left
Can I win

Honestly I've been making very sloppy misplays
Roachcraft is tough man
i run 2 in aggro
0 is the standard
she does a lot of work
Yeah I'm learning

I stole the top deck from shadowverse wins
But i think man is built diff
It's hard to play her when your opponent has a board, she can't trade into a wide board like sword or abyss
Can't play her vs face dragon as well
idc about her trading anything
The glade guy is way better since he's a board clear

i just want my 3-4 fairy out with storm
It's nice for chip damage yeah but most games she just isnt all that useful
Honestly dragon is a good matchup for forest
If control forest is a thing I can see it
You know what your win con is
It's not lol
You need to build a wide as fuck board and pray the dragon dude has no Apollo
I forgot about that bullshit
And no forte on curve
Ahhhh fuck
Because they can't clear your board without apollo
I forgot about the dragonic warrior
lowkey might be time to put calamity in
Abandon aria run divine thunder instead 
Draconic warrior is kinda whatever he needs to spend 4pp for it
He needs super evo for that anyway and most likely you're already dead by the time that shit unlocks
Forest just doesn't have enough ward units or pressure most of the time to race dragon's face
Unless they don't draw apolo
Apollo my bitter foe 
That 7pp card is unplayable for me lol
I hate unplayable cards in my hand it's tilting me
what 7 card
The 6/8
oh
i think its 7 yeah
shes annoying she blocks lethal sometimes but shes basically filler
no1 runs her
Grand prix
I'll do that later.
Being in masters doesn't automatically make them good or unbeatable.
It makes playing roachcraft tougher though
Since they have encountered it so much that they know what to do
Compared to normal players
Grand prix has chests
i'm talking about park chests
I'm still recovering from using forestcraft

wanna meet me at guild lounge
Sure
Kek
mb next lunch is on me
Loss was to a Rune player. Didn't face anyone who was Master ranked, though.
Just a lot of A1 Diamond players, who are garbage because they don't have proper match-up knowledge nor optimized decklists.
Forest players don't necessarily need Glade on curve to win but it does make things harder if they lost the board at that point. Usually the case against Sword.
Man I used abyss and I got screwed because of Cerberus rng
it is what it is
And 1 game got highrolled by a face dragon
TBF when I played face dragon abyss IS my favourite matchup so welp
yeah i have 5 follower
I was so fucking salty I just needed 1 out the extra 4 spawns to be damage man. And no I couldn't make sure all of them were damage because of space issue

Back to the drawing board
Maybe should've spawned 1 damage instead of gambling 2 spawns in the initial cerb turn
Bruv kuncussion always be smoking me
Y'all keep thinking it's luck while ignoring how many micro decisions can lose games

Alright 2nd ticket redemption
Bruh I dced while playing grand prix ๐
Yeah that abyss game I lost for example I shouldn't have greeded for 2 cerb paws and risk no damage paws appearing, for example
I was so fucking salty but it's also a learning process
But I didn't draw my roach in 10 turns anyway
Thanks to this though I should get my 250 pulls before next set
Thanks to the grand Prix ticket i got 2 weeks ago and I almost forgot it existed
Wtf how I'm still 100 pulls short or somethin
I swiped
I bought all the limited sets basically (except the most expensive one in cygames shop) and I also used 2k gems to pull
Sheesh
Skoomah
I didn't count but I think it's like 52 USD total? Not bad

It's just 2 promo packs basically
I might need to top up extra though for next battle pass 
Honestly though I only bought BP and the $2 pack and I've pretty much everything except for dragon and rune
Same I just want to gamba a leader or animated cards
Let's see
Cos I don't plan to spend too much after the opening month so i do all my GachaDemon now
Did you get any tickets
Well I have enough gems to last 2 more BPs
I won't really be spending more for a while
I got one 10 pull from park chests that's about it
Unless there's a cute leader
Truly ๐
I understand the pain of playing against swordcraft now
3 luminous magus without me drawing a glade
Thank god godwood staff bailed me out
Guy probably thought there was no way I could clear his board

Overconfidence

Or if I drew roach before turn 8
Yo my last match was crazy af
You should have seen it
Bro I had 3 bayles, 0 cost deep wood, carbuncle with the staff down lol
I just needed my roach
And he could die as soon as turn 7
But I dced after there's only 15 cards left
With no roach lol
Who did u play vs
Swordcraft
Just have 3 0 cost bayles in your hand and a carbuncle and u won't have issue
It's actually super fair and balanced
Just try playing forest yourself

Forestcraft most fair and balanced class, just highroll 3 bayles
We are using 1000% of our brainpower
Nothing stopping swordcraft from drawing 3 amalias smh

Wait really?
My loss costed me 520 rupies
Yeah my dc too
I will never financially recover from this
Wait what u pay rupies?
750 rupies
First attempt is free
Yeah ill just do that
Did you use up free attempt already?
It wouldnt work, need Amalia + Amelia at least
bro
can we pls delete portal as a class
that 2 orchid bullshit is so painful to witness
ngl
The thing keeping me from playing portal is cringe artifact portal mirrors
2 bitches playing lego
With the animations

i'm playing that atm in rune
that fucked my swordcraft enemy so hard
when he played his mage
with 4 2/2 wards
and sagelight is so good to keep yourself out of lethal range
yeah some lists run that
some just use that 3pp card option to do 4 aoe instead tho
they play the 1pp earth rite draw card
and edelweiss too
yea
edelweiss my wife

arriet for emergency heal is pog too imo
if you go for t10 burst anyway then you dont HAVE to hold your evo
if you play cocky
do you really need more than 12 heal
well if you dont need it then its a 3/3 body at least
she doesnt spellboost either 
Yeah, I would not run Arriet and I have not seen good rune players run her either
Some do use the hybrid earth rite tech, but it's not very common.
i'm just trying it out cuz ive seen it in a livestream
bruh are these some chinese bots just adding me randomly
by a master diamond
with a huge winstreak
arriet not so much value so far tho
thats true
came in clutch 1 time at least
yeah i would rather just go the 1pp earth rite draw
no spellboost but it can give u options to deal 4 aoe
with sagelight teaching
plus its just a 1pp cycle
mirror
no dclimb in my hand still
turn 9

anyone up for a round
need 1 guildie match for weekly
okay 1 match
i have a room open for guildies

wait is that u
Do you wanna play with me

just warp to me then whoever wants
Are the servers broke or
Do you want a real game or quick game
Meme game?
Aw man
my elo tanked due to playing dirt rune
All my decks are meta
Ok I will play my unoptimized swordcraft
Hmm I just realized we got a grand Prix ticket from daily
Should we save it for group a semis?
Or guess not because it's limited per day anyways
if you already secured group A i dont think u should spend the tickets
unless u just want rupies
Yeah, I'ma just chill
I just want to make sure to have enough tickets for group a, but iirc we have a free try per day right
5 matches? @hazy lily
uh i think i only needed 1 or 2
Yeah I'm this close to 250 
do you need 5 still?
I know you dirty little players would want to optimise 
No it's not
I never hit my curve for sword
theres nothing except abyss
Rose queen vs
roach
time to get these 100 packs out of my weekly chest
watch this
fuck that
rigged shit
You know
We never figured out who won the 2.5 million
Did anyone on JP post about it?
Idk do we? I thought we just get a free entry on the very first one we do
Oh is it? Damn cygames stingy
Well the wording was just that the first one is free
its always f2ps or casuals who hit big
It didn't say the first daily one is free
and quit 2 weeks in
You couldn't tell? 
They give u 3 free tickets anyway
From ranked matches
That's like 3k rupies and 3 packs, just win all the games 
I'm getting 0 rupees

Right it's just they give us a daily tix by doing matches
Ogey, even so it just means 3 tix needed to use all attempts during stage 2
Yeah imma chill for now
Also someone in the bus was playing shadowverse om
Yeah group a stage 2 should be a bit harder
Abyss deck too

In Stages 1 and 2, you get one free attempt per stage. Further attempts can be bought with crystals, rupies, or Grand Prix tickets.
In the Final Stage, your one attempt is free, but must be earned by winning enough matches in Stage 2.
Oh even better, just means 2 tix needed to be saved cos you get one each day and stage 2 runs for 3 days

cus final u can only 1 attempt
oh group A only has 2 attempt
for 2nd stage
so just save 1 ticket

2 attempts daily right?

man everything thats fun is low tier
and everything thats boring is meta
sv1 cycle continues
i'm sleeping
some archetypes just dont have enough support yet
Singlepoorian weeb ass nation
Fake SEA is still SEA after all
damn hololive JP is all on shadowverse and EN is on uma
cygames counting their money
i beat sword!!!
immediately gets matched with another sword but this time it's sapphire
looks like i'm cooked

ppl really dont know that rage of serpents exist
he thought hes secure behind his ward

Shirely a ward can protect me 
Lloyd trolled me once though
mf drew 3 of these fuckers bruh
Fuck lloyd

Absolute bs
Is that abyss
haven
uh
okay?
cool story
brotherman
what a waste of air that guy is
do i look like i have the whole day
amelia and luminous mage
what is that bullshit
swordcraft is so fucking busted
every card has value higher than NASA rockets
turn 4 and i'm already down to 9hp
you cant tell me that every monkey can play that class
fr i'm out till they change that fucking sleeper meta
tfw I can never set this up as haven
also went 0-5 in grand prix. I suc monkey balls 
Groups are enforced after rank, these aren't good players
The current meta is honestly pretty tame. Compared to some seasons in sv1. If you hate it now, you're definitely not gonna like the expansions.
Yeah, low rank doesn't mean broke
Some people just don't have time to climb
Or don't want to
pov u left a 1 /1 on my board
Bit difficult to clear everything on sword's board, especially if they run coachwoman
If he didn't heal, he'd still be dead. Only thing that would've saved him is that ward chick that some lists run
yeah the kill 1
oh wait shit is tmr i gotta check time
12 hours from now
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the 2 time lmao
centaur my goat
all paths lead to extinction 
go get em squirrels
fuck no lol
like a week
stream is in 10h
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wait what lapis crest stacks? 
also u should try the kagemitsu list for sword
i honestly think its much better than the midrange one
no it doesnt
i run 1 off just cause
but no whatever that list sucks is prob ass if u run 3 lol
problem with haven is if it goes late u can almost never kill them
did u try it
i did and it felt much better than the midrange list
cause u just do so much damage
if it runs 3 kages idc what it is lol
bruh ๐ญ
he actually will 
im sure he will lmao
it has a better matchup vs rune and portal cause u dont really care too much if they wipe your board since u run so much direct damage
how
if the only diff is 3 kages like what are u doing thats '' so much damage'' fr lol
wdym
swords always been ok vs rune but portal is iffy
u run a completely different list
lemme guess
with centurion, tentecles and quickblader
3 emelias 3 alberts and some centuars mayhaps an olivia
yeah that sounds like a normal list lol
no amalia, no luminous mage
just with kage
ye sounds normal
id still run those tho amalia is 2 silly
just take out the kages

can u post the list lol
Yeah that just looks like an Agro list with Divine Thunders
Who did you get this from?
Ah
i honestly would remove one divine thunder for one more phildau but i think he just wants to use evolve for face damage
so he runs more thunder
ehh idk
like hes a nothing burger if ur not sevo
could also make an argument to ditch jenos for olivia
sevo quickblader or something hit face
no squirrel either
nah jeno can clear the path for sevo kage to hit face
everyone and their mum runs apollo nowadays 
bro hold up
squirrel too ass
oh true wtf
wait he cuts one of these
i just clicked a link to his stream vod and he showed the actual deck hes playing there lol
is it vastly different?
idk i dont really watch jp streamers i was just looking for a sword list and found him
cause i been playing vs people that runs this kage list
Kage is actually GOAT
and its so fucking broiken i swear
Persistent board presence is big

it felt like i was playing vs face dragon but better
ok lets not go crazy
sword just has better quality cards 
no before
sword just dont like me it always fucks me over
but when i play vs it they always get perfect everything of course
only card that can win the game
broken ass 2 for 1 whore
heal 4 btw
yeah sword just hates me ima stop playing this garbage lol
me the topaz warrior topdicking a runeshift 3 times against all 3 kuon https://files.catbox.moe/1tmpt1.mp4

that boob cloth wasnt there before 
i do not discriminate against milk

someone told me in the lore shes racist tho lol
nah without soul i have like no card draw
just run ding dong instead
thats one less card draw
its a body lol
i mean yea
also i dont know if ceres is even needed
but i feel like vs aggro dragon u need it
shes ok to run but needed no u dont HAVE to have her
u could lowkey scrap her
run 3 yuna if u felt like it
shes just a good target for olivia and on slow games shes strong too
i feel like i really want to run phil also
u can but not needed in abyss really
if u were to add phil id drop probably yuna and soul pred
cause u cant be taking out mino mummy or orthrus
and i imagine u set on apollo so
wait
ur not running dark seal demon
i guess ding dong is important vs like dragon
u can completely stop their forte turn
yuna do that aswell
ye maybe ceres is just cope
well i already added ding dongs
dark seal is 2 strong to not run
u could drop 1 ceres and yuna for it
or 1 apollo
yeah thats way better lol
yeah most run 2
but ye im gonna try this list
I would run 1 dark seal demon and cut a soul pred
U can't kill big unit cause u don't have phildau
Just relying on aragavy seems risky
we already killed the soul preds
Honestly I never needed Ceres and I will definitely not be happy to spend 4pp for a 1/4 on the board
U just wanna do as much damage before cerby comes down
Or serpents lethal with the mummy storm
yeah but ceres demands removal too
nobody wants that thing alive shes 2 much of a problem
1 or 2 is fine
She's also like insane value if the game goes late
No evolve points or anything she's just sitting there be very annoying
there is still reaper
All you need is Medusa to win late game, just pray u draw all of her lol
ceres was litty in og too
Reaper is kinda expensive on turn 4-5 though and phildau kills 2 for 2pp
he already played gundam at 20 hp lol
he traded
and now im killing both his orchis with medusa
ok this deck works great so far
oh wow i lost vs portal because i didnt draw any cerberus what a shocker
and he had 2 orchis
i just killed abyss mirror 15 face dmg 
whoever sevo first loses the mirror basically
im actually dumb i missed one ticket
based
claw lethal
i would die after him but ye razory does dmg first to him
another 1 hp win i had astaroth on me
my medusa actually hit face 3 times
got 3 wins i mean not terrible
look at this guy he was greedy af he saved evo on sylvia if i had cerb he was dead here
actual monkey got rewarded
i had a portal do the same just alst game lol, thankfully my hand wasnt trash 
















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