Shadowverse

[umbral seal]

I also run 3x ruby because my deck is heavy on 7s

@lone agate You're correct to run 3x jeno but cut the 8 drop to 2

[cursive crypt]

if he wants to play for board he should run baldy

[umbral seal]

@lone agate By playing aggressively and running ravenous and kage, you significantly increase your possibilities for lethal even through ward

[cursive crypt]

wouldnt you rather play anything else other than phildau turn 4-6, you can probably clear 2 units with valse on those turns just like phildau

not many units are more than 4/5 hp

[umbral seal]

No.

It's pointless to explain this to someone who doesn't understand mana efficiency, value trading and expanding your options for maintaining board tempo

[lone agate]

alright

[cursive crypt]

im just playing the devils advocate you play sword way more than me anyway

1pp cost could matter in some games i agree

[lone agate]

i have 2 slot to fill

[cursive crypt]

but they have essentially the same clear capability

before you can put jeno down

and i suppose you can just play both phildau and valse

on the same turn

now its making more sense to me

[umbral seal]

You're operating under the assumption I don't run 3x of both

Phildau serves multiple purposes, including just a normal turn 2 play

Generating value wins games. Rune is strong because they can generate over 10 pp worth of cards multiple turns in a row as early as turn 5

Daria in og shadowverse was broken for similar reasons, although she'd create checkmate situations as early as turn 4

Might be able to hit master by Thursday. Not the fastest, but fast enough for a fella with a day job

[umbral seal]

Average late game vs a haven player

Them fellas love to stall

[blissful olive]

@umbral seal

what do u think the best value is like to buy stuff

[umbral seal]

Wassup?

[blissful olive]

i wanna spend 100 bucks or so

[umbral seal]

Use the cygames store or an alternate website, tbh

[fiery pulsar]

You buy off their store

[blissful olive]

would u reco this for the 1k cause i want the battle pass 2

[fiery pulsar]

You get a btyer deal

[umbral seal]

Even though I couldn't use the first option because the email verification wasn't working day 1

[fiery pulsar]

Buy the bundles off their site

[umbral seal]

[blissful olive]

using 10 bucks to get arisu or whatever the forest leaders name is tho lol

[fiery pulsar]

The only deal not on their site is the 1.50$ thing on steam

[umbral seal]

Hm. I bought it but I dunno if I'd say it's "value". Then again, that bundle guarantees two legendaries

And I guess the devs are pricing each lego at 10 bucks each

[blissful olive]

well id be using 750 of the 1k

for battle pass

[fiery pulsar]

Just buy them all

[blissful olive]

[umbral seal]

I'm still mad that the og characters are 1k

They made diawl trash on purpose to make people buy Luna

[blissful olive]

fr

but i dont want luna anyways

i want another cerb ticket if anything

[cursive crypt]

well 2pp 2/2 isnt the worst

now i dont hate phildau that much

just a bit

[blissful olive]

am i missing anything or is this the whole web shop

[umbral seal]

Correct, it's standard. Only beryl is statted higher at 3/3 but she costs 3 life.

Technically lancetrooper is a 2 mana 2/3 but it's statted across two bodies

A lot of sword's two drops aren't that great, which is why some lists run fighter

[fiery pulsar]

thats it

for now

[umbral seal]

You also want to improve the quality of your Amalia pulls since she pulls swordcraft followers only

[cursive crypt]

yeah but lancetrooper is broken so we dont count it

[fiery pulsar]

also

[cursive crypt]

2pp 2/3 with a plus effect

[fiery pulsar]

guys time to buy 5 booster boxes of the physical product

[umbral seal]

Definitely not broken, but very good. I cut her to two, personally.

Just to make room for more high impact cards

[cursive crypt]

i just hate her cause she has 2hp for some reason

with a + effect that makes every officer has rush

actually joever if they drop it vs me

on curve

[blissful olive]

seems my gems dont reflect gotta re open the game each time ig

[bright silo]

yeah

[umbral seal]

Forest player complaining about lance trooper is funny. Fairies didn't even have rush in og shadowverse

[bright silo]

if you're swiping through their web store

[umbral seal]

Devs need to revert that

[bright silo]

gotta restart

[blissful olive]

if they took rush away forest would be so much worse too lol

and sword would be the aggro deck again

idk if ima really use these tho lol

[umbral seal]

Sure but they still shouldn't have it and they run 3x aria anyway for storm

Forest is S tier and that's a big part of it

[blissful olive]

yup

[umbral seal]

In the og game, combo forest was still good but their weakness was getting rushed down

Fairies having rush negates a weak early game

[blissful olive]

alright i spent 150 hope thats enough for what i want , should be

[cursive crypt]

were fairies 0pp when they didnt have rush cause 1pp 1/1 is kinda ass

skeletons is 0pp

[blissful olive]

they were always 1 iirc

[umbral seal]

No, they still costed 1. 1 mana 1/1 is standard

Quickblader is the best 1 drop because he has storm

Skeletons weren't 0 in the og game. I don't know why they cost zero but abyss needs it, let's be real

[cursive crypt]

well in this game it would be unfair that skellies are 0pp then if fairies dont have rush

[umbral seal]

Abyss has access to completely different tools, so I don't agree

Fairies costing zero would significantly increase the kill range of roach

[cursive crypt]

it would yeah, would be too broken even if it lost rush

abyss just sucks lets be honest thats why 0pp 1/1 is being overlooked

do skellies generate shadows when they die

[umbral seal]

Skeleton being 0 enables 2 mana draw 2 and 1 mana kill any target

It doesn't enable them to kill opponents from 15

[fiery pulsar]

i love the SE sac tech so much

for abyss

[umbral seal]

Everything does

Just a spell being used is 1 shadow

[cursive crypt]

really? im pretty sure u dont get shadows from ghosts

i could be wrong though

[umbral seal]

Because ghosts are banished

They don't die

That's why

[cursive crypt]

even if you trade them in?

[fiery pulsar]

if you trade them then should no?

[cursive crypt]

oh i see

[umbral seal]

If you trade them, maybe. But if they go face, banish

[cursive crypt]

yea i see, learnt something new since my next deck is most likely abyss

i really dont wanna craft portal that deck is boring

[umbral seal]

I can't judge the fun of a deck I haven't played but if I want to play solitaire, I play rune

Fuck portal

I do think abyss is not really playable without 3x Aragavy. It's not Anne & Grea but being able to deal 7 damage aoe without evo is too important.

That applies to aggro and control

[cursive crypt]

no dopamine playing something that just plays on curve and drop orchis on 8

cerb has some revive mechanics and +2 with the 3pp amulet

yeah aragavy you for sure need 3

such a good card

[blissful olive]

ok

i got about 60 packs to open

[umbral seal]

You know orchis is a problem when artifact decks are cutting Ralmia

[blissful olive]

hopefully i dont get 2 screwed

[umbral seal]

[blissful olive]

if i get lucky might not need to even use all the gems

[cursive crypt]

ralmia doesnt win you games as much as orchis

[blissful olive]

ralmia is like a come back card imo

she doesnt win the game

[cursive crypt]

i kinda wanna get the $50 one so i get crystals for 2 bp

or one bp +leader

[umbral seal]

Compared to Orchis? Absolutely not. Orchis is both a board clear and a finisher

[blissful olive]

yeah im hoping to save 750 for next BP

[umbral seal]

A more efficient board clear because she comes out with super evo and baned puppets

[blissful olive]

i mean ralmia is def more of a come back card then a im gonna win card

orchis is just better in every way almost all the time

[umbral seal]

I honestly am not sure why Ralmia's super evo is so weak

[blissful olive]

yeah +1+1 is poor

maybe worried about making her 2 strong

but in that case kuon exists and look what he does

[cursive crypt]

8pp 2/2 as well so super evoing her isnt even worth it

kuon is an anomaly truly

[blissful olive]

from 2 lego packs they want me to run haven rn lol

[umbral seal]

I'd say Ralmia is actually the worst legendary outside of Rose Queen & Amataz. Hopefully more people are realizing Cerb can actually kill you on turn 8

[blissful olive]

just need jean

so when i buy 10 packs from this i get the bundle too ?

[umbral seal]

Ralmia can, at most, deal 10 but that's assuming you drop down 3 of the artifacts that do 3 face dmg

[blissful olive]

is that how it works?

looks like it ok

[umbral seal]

Yes. You have to buy 100 packs from that to get all 10.

Which is 10k crystals

I did it this time but I'm not sure if I'll be doing it again

[blissful olive]

they would have to have something amazing yeah

[umbral seal]

Storm haven is very underrepresented on ladder but it's a good deck imo.

[blissful olive]

holy

W pack

OH SHIT

BACK 2 BACK

the 2 time

just need 1 garyu and i can make dragon actually

[umbral seal]

Dragon fell off the face of the earth at aa1 diamond

[blissful olive]

ima go for nudle 5 min i want the grea sleeves

what about face dragon

[umbral seal]

It's not in a great spot imo

[umbral seal]

Whenever I see a rare dragon, it's face. Pretty much no one is playing control ramp at my rank

For good reason

[blissful olive]

and hows face doing ppl been praising it

[umbral seal]

No.

[blissful olive]

or gasing it up

lucky on the doubles lol

[umbral seal]

It'll stomp rune unless the rune player knows it's not slow ramp.

[blissful olive]

i do want a set of kuon tho

[umbral seal]

But it's not great against the other S tiers

It doesn't beat Sword either

[blissful olive]

are u still playing sword or firest

forest*

[umbral seal]

I've not played a single game of forest despite having the cards for it

I'm sticking with sword

[blissful olive]

well lets see

for rune im missing 3 kuon didnt get any lol

haven need 2 or 3 jean

forest 2 aria's

i do have 20k vials or so tho so i can make a bunch of shit

what are these btw?

[umbral seal]

@blissful olive #1383658402005123112 message Did you see this, btw?

I'm back home so I'll show you the final iteration of the deck

Extremely unlikely to change after all the playtesting I've done

[blissful olive]

dont think so

[cursive crypt]

bruh i bought the bp and bundle and i still only have one olivia

[umbral seal]

I got 3x Olivia and dclimb in my first 50 packs

@blissful olive

You'll notice that I cut ironcrown entirely. I realized it's just not that good. Hound of War is a card I severely underrated until I started running it.

[cursive crypt]

my luck is actually so bad i have 4 copies of amataz and 4 of cerberus

[fiery pulsar]

you do a 10 pull and you get one of the items yea

[blissful olive]

yeah HoW is like a fake board clear card

u changed fighter for ruby then?

was he not performing as good

[fiery pulsar]

im glad im not the only one who thought the 1/1 storm isnt good in mid range

[umbral seal]

He was fine. But look at how many 7 drops I run.

Ruby is there to smooth out the curve of the deck.

And all of those 7s are necessary, imo.

[umbral seal]

I ran him for awhile. Definitely more suited for full aggro.

I tested out a lot of different variations

[fiery pulsar]

it kinda sucks not having a 1 drop but ehh

[umbral seal]

1 drop not needed. You can zerg rush if you need to without it.

[blissful olive]

well made fucking uhh

forest too now gonna try that later

i have 13k vials left i can finish rune if i wanted debating on it

rune or haven idk if i can do both without spending more

prob like haven more ngl

haven feels like it fills both the control and somewhat aggro vibe i like

[mystic tartan]

wait

lmao

i didnt know

oh

cus theres

[umbral seal]

Yeah, I just realized that too

Actually

Lemme delete that

So other people don't get baited

That wasn't intentional

[fading echo]

[mystic tartan]

yeah

wtf

pulls

gimme that

[fading echo]

nice

[umbral seal]

@blissful olive Btw, hound of war isn't just a board clear. He's also just a board refill if the opponent plays nothing. Like haven, for example

[blissful olive]

ya hes a big threat

[gritty anvil]

wtf i got 4th burnite

[fiery pulsar]

big tail dragon goog

[gritty anvil]

i got punished for crafting one lol

[fiery pulsar]

ive yet to pull a naty Aria and Rodeo

[mystic tartan]

wajaja

-2300

[fiery pulsar]

What a good opening hand

LOL

[bright silo]

surrender angle

[fiery pulsar]

its a table match

for da key

ghosts do no give shadows when traded

i just tested it

[umbral seal]

Banished.

[blissful olive]

btw did anyone know what these were for

still no idea

[fiery pulsar]

you use them to buy sleves

in da shop

[blissful olive]

ohhh

hmmm not bad then

[fiery pulsar]

kek

you need 3 of them for 1 and 3 of the gems for sleeves

[blissful olive]

oh fuck off lol

[fiery pulsar]

or you can get a shiny emblem for 1

🙃

[bright silo]

can anyone fight me at the park

for the quest

bo1

117955797654

[plain gull]

any1 up? can skip turn to speed up

[cursive crypt]

yea im on

come to the guil;d lounge

[plain gull]

ok

[fading echo]

bruh rune is invincible they just stall forever and then cocytus and win

[bright silo]

sword can overwhelm it

[plain gull]

u need 5x @cursive crypt ?

[cursive crypt]

nop

[plain gull]

👍

[umbral seal]

2 more ranks

[plain gull]

grats

[blissful olive]

what is this

bro used it but his shit didnt die

[plain gull]

super evolve protects from it

[blissful olive]

thats gay af

[umbral seal]

Wait, someone has alt art for Olivia in-game. Fucking how.

[plain gull]

maybe bonus from old shadowverse?

no idea

[umbral seal]

I linked my account, and I played the OG for a long time.

[blissful olive]

maybe u can buy it

[teal rain]

buy 5 boxes of physical product

[blissful olive]

OH THAT

[umbral seal]

Wow, that's wild

[plain gull]

damn

[blissful olive]

hmmm

debating what deck i wanna finish with the 13k vial i got left

leaning towards haven but idk

with 7k i could finish dragon too idk if u even need 3 garyu for face

[umbral seal]

I would still run 3

[blissful olive]

think i can do 2 decks what i got left

just gotta decide which fr

just wish i could dust my useless ass rose queens man

tempted to just spend 50 and make all 3 decks lol

[cursive crypt]

brother :

[blissful olive]

WAT

[cursive crypt]

u dont need it

[blissful olive]

I HAVE NEEDS

[cursive crypt]

stay strong

[blissful olive]

im like 1-2 cards away from making every deck lmao

except rune

fuckign game didnt give me a single kuon in almost 200 packs

[cursive crypt]

cant you craft them

[umbral seal]

Well, what sort of playstyle do you like?

Despite how broken rune's legendaries are, the deck is not easy to pilot

2nd hardest in terms of difficulty, below roach forest

[blissful olive]

i generally enjoy mid range control

thats why im sorta leaning torwards abyss midrange or haven

dragon i kinda got already i can make 1 garyu and be done

[umbral seal]

If those are the options, I would personally choose abyss.

[blissful olive]

yeah abyss is really fun tbh just lacks a strong win con

whereas like haven can slam the griffon down or any of its random storm birds and kill you

or even lapis respawning

[wild gale]

I have 2 garyu

But dragon is b tier

[umbral seal]

Cerb is the win con, it just requires a two card set up

[cursive crypt]

storm dragon is pretty good

tier 2 deck

[umbral seal]

Even storm haven has to chip you down before the big griffon can kill you

[blissful olive]

yeah for cerb u want the amulet down

[umbral seal]

In fact, I've found lapis to be more problematic when she comes down

She basically puts the game on a very short clock

[blissful olive]

shes havens kage

lowkey i think kage should have rush when he respawns at least lol

[umbral seal]

He would be way too broken if that was the case. It'd be infinite board control for a class that's already good at it

[blissful olive]

whats ur worst match up so far u think with ur mid range sword

still portal and forest?

[umbral seal]

Portal and forest both feel like 50/50s depending on how the draws go. Rune is a favorable match-up but you'll have games where they legitimately pull off unthinkable shit

[blissful olive]

actually u know what i should be making a deck that fucks forest over lol

but tbh idk their bad match ups if any

[umbral seal]

Probably any variant of haven.

They have a lot of healing and wards and still have good win cons

[blissful olive]

from playing forest for a bit now feels like sonic archers is the most problematic card

slam it down removal hit for 7

[umbral seal]

That's not run in combo forest, that's the aggro list.

Personally, I think aggro is the stronger version.

[blissful olive]

yeah i dont run combo

i have 1 godstaff in it just in case but yeah

glade and sonic archer are god like

aria been doing great too

what im running

[umbral seal]

If you're going to run godstaff, run 2. Running 1 of's in a deck that doesn't have a good draw engine is just asking for inconsistency. Exceptions are cards that you would hate to draw more than 1 of in any situation, i.e. king of cock.

As it so happens, godstaff is the draw engine so I don't know why you wouldn't run at least two

[cursive crypt]

3pp card is bad

the fairy one

[blissful olive]

the fairy ?

yeah im sitting on it

could rep for baldo but honestly idk

dont see him doing a whole lot

[umbral seal]

No one at my rank runs amataz

Literally.

Bad card.

[blissful olive]

yeah

fuking forest has the worst legos easily

but aria is amazing at least

[cursive crypt]

carbuncle

lowkey goatedf

run 2 only tho

max

[umbral seal]

Lily & bug alert should both be 3x. Godstaff should be 3, imo. Aria at 3. Olivia at 2. Sprite & profusion should be cut. I don't play forest but I'm basing this off of what I've seen.

[cursive crypt]

lily 3, god staff 2 is fine but 3 is best

2pp amulet is also bad

[blissful olive]

swapped 1 sprite for 1 lily but ima sit on that

i like profusion for now it helps clear away early aggro

without needing me to ram pixies into shit

[umbral seal]

I dunno, man. I've not seen a single forest player run it ever. And I've made a forest player deck out from godstaff.

[cursive crypt]

i'll post my list

sec im ingame

[blissful olive]

its fine for now

[cursive crypt]

you can cut carbuncle for that 7 mana guy if you dont like him

[blissful olive]

what 7 mana guy

[cursive crypt]

the storm one

[blissful olive]

oh yeah

lowkey hes a staple hes 2 good

[cursive crypt]

i dont like him that much

rather have carbuncle

[blissful olive]

not for me hes just so lit

7 to face + removal hes ended more games than roach for me

well usually i use 1 to set up the other

uhh

whats a victory reward

OH

the event started

i didnt notice

yeah yeah

feels good sticking it to portal

[warped granite]

I dropped down to sapph learning artifact portal lmao

It's all control matchups when I'm playing

[blissful olive]

my goat

bouta end this mans life

cool

[warped granite]

Yoo nice

Guess I'll grind it with aggro again

[unkempt lava]

Wait the chests are out?

Right now?

[warped granite]

27 minutes ago

I had 2 ranked and didn't get 1 tho

[blissful olive]

random iirc

i got 1 so far in 2 games

ok 3rd one appeared now

i mean on 3rd game

[plain gull]

yo where are the chests

[cursive crypt]

i got a chest in 4/5 games

[blissful olive]

so they lied?

u have to win to get the chest

they didnt change it

oh nvm its different just to make ti appear ya

[hazy lily]

5am time to start working pepehands

[unkempt lava]

When are they nerfing portalcraft

No fucking way they aren't right

No way a single class can do everything

[plain gull]

[cursive crypt]

wait u can get legendaries from this?

[plain gull]

holy

sick event

[fiery pulsar]

5 a day so make sure to grind them out before reset

[unkempt lava]

Battle pass levels are good

Fought like 8 matches for a drop

6-7 were losts i think

[gritty anvil]

yo

everyone get that ?

or just me

[unkempt lava]

I got rose queen emblem

[gritty anvil]

i like how these ranked emblems looks

https://x.com/svgame_classic/status/1937713610639151531

Shadowverse (@svgame_classic)

Lilium will be a new leader available with an upcoming premium battle pass!

Check out the introduction video!

X · Jun 25, 2025, 3:25 AM

dragon leader

but sv1

[blissful olive]

idk who would run sv1 anymore tbh

[wild gale]

I must be the lowest ranked guy in the guild

[blissful olive]

idk im only ruby

[wild gale]

D3

[blissful olive]

oh rank rank

[fiery pulsar]

Sv1 isnt getting any more sets so im surprised that they are releasing a new leader

[blissful olive]

i should be higher tbh but i aint been playing that much

[wild gale]

Rank is the only one that matters

[fiery pulsar]

No

Group matters more

[wild gale]

The group just shows how good you are in your group

[blissful olive]

yeah its a tad funny in this game

[fiery pulsar]

I could be masters but be emerald

That means im dogshit retart

[blissful olive]

that gonna be me baby

coming in hot

[fiery pulsar]

[blissful olive]

i might peak ruby for a bit but idc 2 much honestly

[umbral seal]

It doesn't. Groups are mmr for that rank tier. You will find it much more difficult to be & stay at sapphire and diamond groups in higher ranks.

The quality of play is significantly different, which is why I've had to deckswap as soon as I got to A0 a few days ago.

[blissful olive]

i ahte it here

premium rose fuck off lmao

[umbral seal]

2500 vials

[blissful olive]

i need 1 more man

thats my 3rd

fucking cygames let me dust shit u cock suckers

well i amde abyss gonna try shit out later

i got enough vials for jean too bouta finish haven as well n call it a day

then save for new set

oh shit

got pack inc?

YES

YES

YES

I GOT THE OTHER ONE

CERBY LEADER LETS GO

im so happy rn

[gritty anvil]

how much u spend

[blissful olive]

in total?

about 150

[fiery pulsar]

Welcome to the cerb gang

Time to lose games and look good doing it

[blissful olive]

see u in emerald comrade

i want the screen wallpaper too next ticket

im just happy both tix i got was cerb

the sleeve are nice tho

she look great

[fiery pulsar]

Her dumb dogs shooting off her hands showing her fingers will never not be funny

[blissful olive]

yo

where my chests at

fuck is this

muligan olivia to draw another 1 amazin

pov cerb reanimates bats and u lose

[unkempt lava]

What's the refresh timer for chests? The time you completed them?

[blissful olive]

It's just daily so it should reset

[fiery pulsar]

You have untill reset to get all 5 chests

So in 13-14 hours i think

[unkempt lava]

Ok that's nice. If only the quests were on daily reset too

[cursive crypt]

is there a setting that makes your cards always in this position when you're in battle

tilts me so much when im almost out of time and my cards just went to the side because im evolving something

[teal rain]

ive played 8 portalcraft in a row

fml

[silver tide]

God is on my side

Blessed to punish these dirty portal players

Divine intervention is the only explanation for me topdecking centaur + last super evo point on 8

And exactly albert on 9 to lethal

[warped granite]

He has his legs out you got your legs seems fair enough to me

Portal players deserve hell

[blissful olive]

[cursive crypt]

im legit thinking of swapping off forest its so cancer when everyone and their mum can heal for 12 every game

[blissful olive]

ngl playing vs portal

and they drop that bitch healing for 4

https://tenor.com/view/curses-foiled-again-he-man-meh-skeleto-gif-16546096

[cursive crypt]

portal, haven, dragon, abyss literally everyone heals

portal is an outlier cause that class does everything

[blissful olive]

this card might be nuts ngl

[cursive crypt]

yea its really good

but honestly when i play vs it they somehow discarded 3 cards and still had forte and garyu on curve

maybe ive just been unlucky

[blissful olive]

just hit face then draw forte win

[gritty anvil]

and this thing gonna get even better

if discard dragon become thing

[blissful olive]

ya

[gritty anvil]

everyone gonna complain about it soon

[lone agate]

described all my vs dragoncraft games

you have to respect that random 2/2 so much

[mystic tartan]

match portal and he really wants to gundam me but i killed him first

bro

so many people play storm dragon

wtf

[lone agate]

from crying on losing the coin toss on ygo

and now I only want going 2nd

what a shift

[mystic tartan]

yeah second is just better

[lone agate]

I love runecraft that can casually summon 3/3 rush with 0 playpoints

Kageee

[mystic tartan]

haven is so fucking ass to play

[chilly viper]

portal downnn

[chilly viper]

why

[lone agate]

the happines to take down portalcraft decks

[mystic tartan]

*play against

they keep stalling

these mofos

[chilly viper]

funny 6 pp cup

[umbral seal]

@blissful olive Why'd you leave guild?

[hazy lily]

aight i need the best dragon deck to climb with

i'm tired of playing a fun deck but losing 90% of the games

@umbral seal gimme the most spamable braindead deck you have

[river crypt]

Bro the 5/5 win with Heavecraft is actually hell i might have to switch to another one while event is up

[nocturne karma]

@river crypt has leveled up! (3 ➜ 4)

[umbral seal]

I've only been climbing with sword, bruh. I stopped playing dragon at like b3. It's not great. However

I think the best dragon deck right now is face dragon, not slow ramp

[hazy lily]

aight then gimme the sword deck

i'm fine with everything unless its portal

[umbral seal]

My sword deck changes almost every day but sure, one sec

[hazy lily]

just a consistent one

[umbral seal]

It is consistent, I'm just a perfectionist who's always overthinking every card inclusion

Biggest change: I cut kage to 1 copy. You know how I said you should only run 1 of's if your deck has a great draw engine or you'd always hate to see the 2nd copy? The latter applies to kage.

If I have him otb, I never want to draw the 2nd copy.

[hazy lily]

tyty. any fancy plays i should know?

[umbral seal]

Card conservation. Don't play everything in your hand just because you can. If you have multiple two drops in hand and only one phildau, always save phildau to swing the board. If you're going 2nd and have 2 phildaus, you should probably coin out both phildaus to get early tempo. Always keep zirconia going second regardless of what the rest of your hand looks like.

There's probably a whole list of other things I could mention but that's what comes to mind for now

[hazy lily]

aight will keep that in mind

[lone agate]

am I cooked

[umbral seal]

Hands like that are why I run 3x ruby but that's still winnable

[lone agate]

I have 3 ruby, got unlucky ig

[umbral seal]

Your biggest problem would be if he drops Lapis

[silver tide]

why does rune get awesome lesbian couple

but i dont have access to counter with an evil intimidating horse

[lone agate]

no lapis

[umbral seal]

Good shit.

[lone agate]

we just need 1900 points to get the free legendary, doable before 17th july ig

[mystic tartan]

Jeno

[lone agate]

Its always him 😔

[umbral seal]

That's just to get an A rank guild. However

We are shooting for S rank

[lone agate]

[mystic tartan]

can u join guild after leaving one

immediately

[wild gale]

https://tenor.com/view/don-quixote-limbus-company-gif-15384023547410845212

How much do we have to grind for S rank wtf

[lone agate]

mango you have 25points

play more

limbus can wait

[umbral seal]

There's a cooldown. Probably about 24 hrs? Not sure. Why?

[umbral seal]

Dunno but I've been grinding a lot, trust me

[lone agate]

just standard in these games

some have even 48hours

[mystic tartan]

i want to join

[warped granite]

I don't think it's the full 24 hours, I think I joined kuncs guild like 2-3 hours after leaving mango's

[mystic tartan]

[wild gale]

I'm reading my novel

[lone agate]

you left like 2 days ago no? should be able now

[mystic tartan]

nah i havent left

[lone agate]

oh

[mystic tartan]

any guild id

i think i can join now

[lone agate]

299410508444

[mystic tartan]

nvm restricted

[lone agate]

[mystic tartan]

bro puppet portal is toxic

i dont want to play agains them

[umbral seal]

You just have to apply, I'll approve it later

Need to go to work

[mystic tartan]

yeah after cooldown for leaving

[warped granite]

I can approve also if it's within the next few hrs just lemme know

[umbral seal]

Yeah, I needed subleaders not in my timezone for very obvious reasons

BTW, a big reason why I say rank matters more than group is because, until I got to aa0, I didn't often see people do "turn 4, play nothing" if they're going first and tbh, that's often the correct line of play if you already have board advantage and know that extra units would just get cleared on their evo turn anyway

No point wasting extra resources when you can spend them getting back the board yourself.

[hazy lily]

playing against sword

he ropes turn 1

bruh

[lone agate]

you play 1st turn, they extra playpoint 8 to 9 > Albert win

[hazy lily]

no way he clears that right

....right?

[lone agate]

[mystic tartan]

Clue

[fiery pulsar]

I think fc only board clear is the hand size guy on evo

So ur fine probably

[lone agate]

Love this game, got a loss streak of going 1st 4times in a row vs Portal and Rune

back to ruby hell

[hazy lily]

bro everyone getting legis

out of those chests

i get 100 vials

what is this shit

[fossil holly]

yeah i went back to ruby so decided to just say screw it and try different decks

back in topaz soon emerald again

also internet keeps cutitng out

thats fun

[lone agate]

the ping pong with the groups its crazy

[hazy lily]

third time he plays that

surely against me he pulls that off right

retard class

fr

[lone agate]

that card I hope the abort it

[hazy lily]

such a fucking bad design

along with that deck

[lone agate]

they can control

and somehow still put a decent board early

crazy

[hazy lily]

3 dmg whole board, 3 leader dmg

without any effort

like haven

puts down chalice

and if you dont have storm you cant play anything

because it doesnt survive

so haven just needs to stall to turn 8

and put their storm down

its so boring

[chilly viper]

haven has the 6pp spell, but not as broken as that 5pp card though

cus the falcon storm only does 2 damage

[chilly viper]

not even turn 8, it's turn 9

u need 9pp to pull griffon off

[hazy lily]

ah true he needs amulet buff

[chilly viper]

which is very balanced

turn 9 nuke is like bare minimum

[hazy lily]

still

its just stall until then

[chilly viper]

yea that's why haven needs all the stalls

[odd zephyr]

that's if they can finish you off with just griffon too

[hazy lily]

and theres no way beating it

if he draws good

[chilly viper]

yea u need to chip them too cus there's no way griffon survives next turn

[odd zephyr]

realistically it's a turn after that so they can have their ressurected lapis again

[chilly viper]

meanwhile i see roaches ending game turn 7

[hazy lily]

yea cuz fairies fuck your ass until roach is lethal

[chilly viper]

man i hate storm

and why does the 1pp fairies get rush

[odd zephyr]

feels like the real big turn for haven is like turn 10 where they get ressurected lapis and then hopefully you slam down jeanne lol

or you time some amulets for turn 8 jeanne but that probably won't kill anyway

[hazy lily]

fan of otohime

zzzzz

look i can play 2/2 storm ward

[fading echo]

I hate face rush decks

When i see face rush decks i just spam the portal 1/5 ward every turn

[lone agate]

[odd zephyr]

tbh with all the board clear and 4 evo points with tons of effects aggro kinda needs storm lol

[hazy lily]

notlikethis

[fading echo]

I have the most fun fighting control haven decks because it actually feels like we're playing the game

[lone agate]

I can imagine the crazy fun

[fading echo]

And now there's face dragon spamming that 6 damage card

And people invented a face abyss deck too

Ranked is hell

[odd zephyr]

i bet it's tons of fun turn 4 having a bunch of amulets on the field and 2 bellringers hitting each other for 0 dmg

[chilly viper]

i always do that

that should be the game's version "glhf"

hitting their ding dong with your ding dong

[hazy lily]

u mean the 2pp 3/3 drop?

[fading echo]

I don't know but it's a deck that just tries to get you low and control the board until eventually they just suicide bomb you

With Cerberus and some other cards

There's even a face haven deck too with birds

Where's face portal

[fiery pulsar]

?

[fading echo]

And abyss has this card that gets barrier on superevolve it's so fucking strong because you have to somehow hit it twice or save your spells for it which means you're not clearing the rest of the board

[fiery pulsar]

you just make 3 of the ships that go face

[lone agate]

oh yeah face portal we really need that

[fading echo]

Those cost 5 to drop

[fiery pulsar]

you have cards that cheat them out for 5

so you dont even need to play them

ive done 12 dmg in 1 turn with them

[fading echo]

By turn 5 you're 1 hp vs face dragon

[fiery pulsar]

lmao

ive havent lost to a storm dragon yet as portal /shrug

[lone agate]

my ruby traded a cost 7 for 8

[chilly viper]

bruh these birds take too long to come out

[fading echo]

You have to get 4 out for that so it's either turn 8 and you have 3 + 1 or you've been dropping them since turn 5 and people haven't been clearing the board

Everything i put on the board gets cleared next turn except my 1/1s

Like when i drop the blue mask girl + something they will both be dead next turn unless the other player's hand is bricked

[fiery pulsar]

like i just used 2 doomright at 9 with the +1 point to get 4 out

[fading echo]

You mean the spell that drops two right

[fiery pulsar]

yes

[fading echo]

So you just go for making artifact b?

Or you make aby and a second b

[fiery pulsar]

exodia is just bait

so i make Betas

and maybe an Y for sword

[chilly viper]

why do you need to make a second b? i thought the spell summons a copy?

[fiery pulsar]

you summon 2

[chilly viper]

oh

[fiery pulsar]

so you need 2

to drop 2

[fading echo]

You can't pick the same one twice you need to have both in hand to summon

[chilly viper]

i see

[fading echo]

I see so you don't go for exodia and just play with the tier 2 artifacts

[fiery pulsar]

yea

[fading echo]

I guess that's good for finishing off with orchis

[fiery pulsar]

Orchis is a better wincon than exodia

[fading echo]

You just save the evos for doom girls and superevos for orchis too?

[fiery pulsar]

yea

[fading echo]

i can try playing with that strat

[fiery pulsar]

you idealy save one SE for orchis

but that wont always be the case

[fading echo]

But you're running ralmias or that 10 cost dude?

[fiery pulsar]

Ralmias

she can just do 9 dmg on turn 8

and end games

[fading echo]

Tru tru

[fossil holly]

lol

[fading echo]

No puppets for early game just pure portals?

[fiery pulsar]

yep

[fossil holly]

cant believe i went from ruby to emerald to sapphire and now back down to emerald lol

[fading echo]

I wanna play pure portal too can i see your deck list and compare to mine?

[fiery pulsar]

yea i can post it once im out of this game

[fading echo]

I have a pure mech deck and a pure puppet deck

The puppet i feel is working fine but I've been feeling i have to change something on the pure mech deck

[fiery pulsar]

https://shadowverse-wb.com/ja/deck/detail/?hash=2.7.cQn6.cQqE.cQqE.cQqE.cR0k.cR0k.cR0k.cpBc.cpBc.cpBc.cpBw.cpBw.cpBw.cpEu.cpEu.cpRE.cpRE.cpRO.cpRO.cpUM.cpUM.cpUM.cpUW.cpUW.cpgs.cpgs.cpgs.cph0.cph0.cph0.cphK.cphK.cphK.cpwU.cpwU.cpwe.cpwe.cpwe.cpwo.cpwo&lang=ja

ok i kinda lied i run 2 love struck

just for clearing 1/1s

i forgot he was even in there

you can also drop Eudie for another 3 drop i like her sicne she draws and has stats

see ya

guys so fucked

[lone agate]

lmao started playing puppet getting the last orchis, abyss insta quit after 4 turns

[fading echo]

Ty ty :

[fading echo]

I see you're not running the fusion cannon

Maybe that's what's bricking me

[fiery pulsar]

bricks you too often

look how cooked this guy was

he ramped on curve the whole game

[silver tide]

me retard?

no

me am smart

[fiery pulsar]

Zug Zug

[silver tide]

i got

safela evo board nuked

on 5

and again on six

but i literally just

centaur evo face

then alberto9 supr face

lmao

buy a pack

game crashes

ok

[fading echo]

Yeah that looks great

[silver tide]

im not sure

im getting battl pass exp

for park matches

[fading echo]

I think there's a weekly limit on battle pass xp and then you only get xp from battlepass quests

[silver tide]

im not at cap yet

[fiery pulsar]

you get progress on this

[silver tide]

going first in sword mirror

its joever

[fiery pulsar]

idk if lobby matches count tho

i only ever win trade for the weeklies

[fading echo]

I think both players should get coin

[fiery pulsar]

just need one more chest

[fading echo]

Like if the first guy uses the 1play point the other guy gets it, and then it only goes back after that guy uses it again

our play point

[silver tide]

yeah its instant loss

not getting 2nd in mirror

[warped granite]

oooop i got B1 but i dropped to ruby

7 lose streak before i got the wins lmao

[lone agate]

going 2nd add alots to the lose streak

[warped granite]

i actually went first in all those gameas

unlucky

[lone agate]

I'm retard

I meant going 1st

I demoted going first vs some swordcraft mirrors

+1 point albert gg

feels like shit

[umbral seal]

@odd zephyr You still been playing or just watching?

[odd zephyr]

i've been able to do my dailies for the past 3 days but i think by tomorrow my free data will officially be out lmao, i've also been watching though

so basically i might as well have barely been playing

i think depending on what i do next month with the free data i'll probably just cut my losses and stop playing and watching though, cuz watching it makes me want to play

[warped granite]

yeap it is what it is with these matches

[umbral seal]

Not worth the cost?

[warped granite]

hmm what does free data have to do with SV i dont follow

game in a different phone?

[odd zephyr]

uh ngl i could not care less about the cost of a yearly vpn, it's like what 50 bucks or something? 0 fucks. my actual problem is twofold though

[umbral seal]

He has to use a VPN to play iirc

[warped granite]

ahhh yeah dutch thing

[odd zephyr]

for one i just personally hate the fact that i'd have to pay money to actually access the game and that just pisses me off, and two there's still tons of uncertainty around the vpn

for example most vpns do not work for this game

i can vpn to multiple different places in the us and it won't work

but then on some places, particularly miami on the windstride vpn, and some other specific places, do work and you can play the game

[lone agate]

if you want I can let you use my vpn plan, it has alot of devices left to log in anyway
you can just log in with mono code, dont need to give you pass

[odd zephyr]

there's essentially no logic or reasoning behind it and that also means there's just a lot of uncertainty behind it, why does it work? how long will it even work? etc

[bright silo]

so I have to win the matches

when a chess appears?

[odd zephyr]

thanks for the offer but i'm good, it's not the money i care about

[bright silo]

I keep losing today

[lone agate]

alr if you change idea just ask, no problem with it

[odd zephyr]

i will

[warped granite]

yep, chest can appear anytime but you have to win to claim it

[wild gale]

Jesus is it just that I'm bad or is everyone grinding

[bright silo]

I'm making a puppet deck

gonna see how well it plays

[lone agate]

I don't think you need to win or smth to get point for the guild

just play

[odd zephyr]

@umbral seal oh right i also forgot there's a third reason in that they rly went above and beyond to make sure we don't get to play. like they rly did all they could when they rly could've just done the bare minimum and there'd be essentially no complaints. so that also makes me not rly want to support them for obvious reasons

[umbral seal]

I feel that

[lone agate]

it does feel like that

crazy that Konami more generous than this

[fading echo]

I think it's random

You can't quit and go next but you can just skip turns to lose faster and get more chests

[warped granite]

i also dropped, game's tough

[bright silo]

everyone is grinding

[lone agate]

game does not want me to grind anyway

or is that separate from the weekly limit

[wild gale]

@warped granite you wanna play 5 battles match?

I let myself be the sitting duck

Shit ass quest btw

I started 1st with this hand and still won

[lone agate]

I have friend slave for those quest

[lone agate]

does anyone knows if this gets capped by the weekly limit? I'm scared to waste it

[wild gale]

Actually nvm

[fossil holly]

watched a 30 min haven guide

[bright silo]

separate

[fossil holly]

its so much more fun to play when you know what you are doing

[lone agate]

thank god

[fiery pulsar]

they appear randomly when you find someone to fight

i think ill be done with the BP next week

big

im also starting to get SV art my timeline now

its cooked

[lone agate]

holy

[fiery pulsar]

[lone agate]

and draw second jeno

bruh

just tell me to quit

[fiery pulsar]

Ez win

just draw albert on 9 and profit

[lone agate]

that was early albert, he just somehow had less than me

[bright silo]

sword vs sword is miserable

[lone agate]

its miserable going 1st

going 2nd chill

[hazy lily]

bro

they give me 50, 100 vials from that chest

and battle pass exp

i have the fucking bp already done fucking cygames

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1035012600276197396/1261015597630881893/glorpnotl.gif

[lone agate]

bro wtf do you do vs puppet, they have infinite free trading and then just drop orchis

[umbral seal]

It's not infinite.

[lone agate]

not literally...

[umbral seal]

Like, it just literally isn't. You can outvalue them with sword.

Puppet is easier to deal with than hybrid

[wild gale]

Guess who just crafted Olivia

Anyway where's everyone at

I should be able to go to C0 soon

I know

Powerful rank

[bright silo]

c0

I'm still at b1

I'm more interested in trying out new decks than climbing atm

[umbral seal]

AA2 sapphire. Earned diamond yesterday. Lost it a few hours later. It's hard to maintain at this rank.

Trying out a faster sword list.

[wild gale]

Climb fast

[umbral seal]

Climbing faster is how you get to play the really good players

Fought several diamond master ranked players at like 20k mp yesterday

Not many players at this rank so that's what I get matched with

[lone agate]

wtf

ig old sv fairy

[umbral seal]

Yup.

[fossil holly]

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/10390894446874460064/805AB9EA79EE86E8718F6E5141185CB038E1C6B9/ haven is fun

[wild gale]

Too bad I'm bad so I would get smoked

[fossil holly]

had a perfect game

got all the cards i needed at the right time lol

[lone agate]

too bad sv is too weeb for forsen, would have been hilarious

[wild gale]

He's watching blue archive videos

[lone agate]

he is stuck in the hs loop

12 wins surely

I hope arena gets added here too

old sv had it right?

[wild gale]

Yeah like 9 kuly?

[lone agate]

july?

where did u read that

[fading echo]

Sword vs sword is like watching the slap tournaments

[lone agate]

what about forest vs forest?

mln of fairy die daily

[mystic tartan]

@warped granite i applied