Pokémon TCG

[torn urchin]

I feel ya

[raven hamlet]

i dont play it anyways

[brave harness]

even when u dont play its fun to open packs for free

unless u need one card to actually play the game and the game wont give u to u

[sullen grove]

Meow decidueye is busted

[brave harness]

darktina variants the most played tourney deck and owlcat is the main counter

time for every1 to play fire decks

[sullen grove]

Owlcat is also decent against most decks except chari

If I have the balls to queue now id queue chari

https://tenor.com/view/queue-up-tyler1-gif-20050902

But the 2nd most popular and successful is tapu

And chari usually loses that

[brave harness]

ya unless this tourney skewed the stats enough cause of entrants

owlcats only bad matchups are fire decks and crobat carnviine

ok it just carried the stats further in that direction

arceus crobat was 37% winrate for them

in this tourney, it had 3 bad matchups

fire
arceus crobat
oricorio magnezone

surprised about the 3rd one

i am no longer surprised about the 3rd one

from owlcat decklist's averages

none of them are using gio lmao

which is tech'd in specifically for oricorio and arceus...

absurd amount of lillie's

[sullen grove]

Yeah seeming as most entrants are gira and friends the owlcat players made that call it seems

[brave harness]

something cool to see

one of the top placing dudes for the deck

is a guy i was watching/studying from japan

he has a very useful channel

https://www.youtube.com/@kinkakuj3909/videos

the auto translate captions are actually pretty solid, just gotta know japanese names for some things

like gio being sakaki

[sullen grove]

Good info, thanks, cos somehow I don't really vibe with a lot of EN creators lmaoo

The only ones I like are MST and raven

[raven hamlet]

I'm stocking glass for the newest set

[sullen grove]

And I usually catch them on stream more often anyways

[sullen grove]

Yeah current set is probably only 1 week left

Except if they somehow don't announce anything next week... Then pull away

[brave harness]

2 i believe

cause it shouldnt happen till drop event ends

[sullen grove]

I just need the acerola packs, I need to drop more money

[sullen grove]

nice tourney meta bucko

[brave harness]

from what ive heard

darktina kinda doesnt exist in master ball recently

and i imagine a lot of ppl are still trying out that turtonator deck

bad time to be owlcating

[sullen grove]

Depends on how high you are ig, I'm not high enough to not see darktina

[brave harness]

last i watched was tilly's stream

around 1900

[untold mason]

lady luck pls bless me on this pull

[sullen grove]

[sullen grove]

To be fair, even at my rank they're mostly superseded by tapu leles already

[brave harness]

the tapu lele army

[sullen grove]

Up to a point where I'm glad when I vs darktina lmao

[brave harness]

they do seem to be thriving

[sullen grove]

That deck is so fucking cancer

[brave harness]

(another reason to run gio in owlcat)

[sullen grove]

Apparently grass is good against it tho

[brave harness]

ya

decidueye 1 shots with gio thankfully

[sullen grove]

[brave harness]

[sullen grove]

Oh yeah I see this thing a lot too

[brave harness]

that sounds like a lot of pieces

[little oracle]

It can shoot from bench also?

[tacit stag]

no

[sullen grove]

TO the bench

[tacit stag]

also i lied and started playing darktina again

and climbed like 100 points in an hour

everyone is running the anti-meta to the anti-meta now and darktina just kills it

[sullen grove]

Yeah ik we all lie

[little oracle]

100 dmg to any pokemon

Is something can shoot at bench while its active

[sullen grove]

Any wounded bench

[tacit stag]

yes

[sullen grove]

UB stuck players are dog so by playing darktina you can just skill diff (mostly)

By UB stuck I meant the kinds that post on Reddit lul

And by mostly I meant 60-70% prolly this game do be rng

[tacit stag]

ye its just reddit decks when i play at na/eu hours

i played at jp/asia hours and it was like normal human peoplpe

[sullen grove]

U can't lose your lilies with darktina tho

https://tenor.com/view/ciri-vt-ciri-ciri-vtuber-cirivt-cirivtuber-gif-3557225203228432705

[tacit stag]

da wuh

[sullen grove]

Can't use I mean

[little oracle]

lillies useless with no stage 2

[sullen grove]

If darktina can use lillie they'll have 70% wr

[tacit stag]

oh

ye idc about her anyways

[little oracle]

or water healing

[tacit stag]

i put double erika, lillie + two leaf capes in my grass deck

and literally would never draw the healing whenever i needed it regardless

[sullen grove]

Doesn't seem like it when I'm the one facing them

10 card draws left, all 3 evolved, 2 Erika used

[tacit stag]

i wood neva

[sullen grove]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aSmy9yg4SGk

[oak wasp]

I HAVE HAD ENOUGH

Im bringing out Gengar oricoco deck

[sullen grove]

Some jp guy just pulled it on me, I guess it made the rounds over there

Surely this will be good enough for top 10k

[little oracle]

What kinda idiot rng is this

[brave harness]

still no immersive lillie pulled

https://tenor.com/bojsR.gif

running out of time

2 of top 4
4 of top 8
7 of top 16
were owlcat

its crazy that a darktina deck made it top 8

[twilit mason]

Become a professional player

[twilit mason]

Brazil is doing it 7-0

[brave harness]

ppl trying to overanalyze so much

meow mirror is just going 2nd wins

bixie got 2nd twice, so he wins 2-0

[little oracle]

Ooof

I wish i have decidueeye

I only have 1

[brave harness]

the deck only uses 1

[little oracle]

Only 1?

[brave harness]

its late game card

[little oracle]

Ahh

[brave harness]

u dont want decidueye to go in until uve had both meowscaradas die

to maximize prize points

[little oracle]

Aaah

Paper rule

Prize point

[brave harness]

legit just meow out, and spam heals until they die

[brave harness]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-looking-around-looking-at-you-looking-meme-gif-5251015605453829493

idk the pocket specific term

[little oracle]

Just point

[brave harness]

i see

[little oracle]

Next week

Announcement new pack

Always

My collection of this not even complete

[brave harness]

ya its such a bitch

theyre going way too fast

[little oracle]

Cant help it

They need to balance meta

[brave harness]

fellas tryna cash out while they can

[little oracle]

And rip our money with the wives

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-masters-pokemon-black-pokemon-white-gen-v-gif-5712032521054663746

Wait till she comes out

All money on her

Instant

[brave harness]

im old and quit pkmn long ago so i already got the important ones for me

erika + sabrina

fotm username saying he wants to play the most recent tourneys best performing deck

Cinema

[twilit mason]

WAIT A NEW SET ALREADY?!

[brave harness]

oricorio magnezone of all decks

such a funny W

[brave harness]

should be every month now

[twilit mason]

Dude... I cant keep up

[brave harness]

same

[sullen grove]

Rank 1 is 3000 points, I'm like half of that

Real "professionals" are built different

[brave harness]

15 hours a day sessions

[sullen grove]

People I queued yesterday are using meow and Gengar these people are trend hoppers

[brave harness]

ppl are so cringe man

no attempts at loyalty

this video wont get off my front page cause i wont watch it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30tkK20qDXE

[sullen grove]

God I'm so tired of YouTube thumbnails at least this one doesn't have a pog face

im yelling at clouds

[brave harness]

no archetype loyalty

sad days we live in...

[sullen grove]

Funny thing is I think it's a good time to be archetype loyal

Every type has a viable deck

[brave harness]

agreed

every1 has a place

trying to think of who doesnt

but like

even normal and water have splashes in decks where their type is the star

[sullen grove]

Full normal decks will always face an uphill battle ofc but arceus is everywhere now yeah

Water there's that fucking crab it really is quite strong

[brave harness]

and old faithful greninja decks

even metal which started pokepocket as melmetal memes exclusively

has a deck

[sullen grove]

For all denas faults, their balancing is quite good IMO. The numbers of trash cards they add are too much though

[brave harness]

absurd amount of fillers

[sullen grove]

And combine pack points when? I need to craft some foils

Which is prolly why theyre not doing it anytime soon

[sullen grove]

Like what is that anchor grass ex (forgot the name)

I just need 5 secs to know it's trash

And I got 3 of it

[brave harness]

dhelmise? lmao

its annoying when they use the obviously shit cards are RRs

maybe if its fan favorite cards that deserve good art

but who the fucks favorite pkmn is dhelmise

[sullen grove]

My favs are mid, rip mismagius I tried

Maybe I can try again with tapu

[brave harness]

my favorite pkmn are hella starters

swablu, marill, eevee, vulpix

[sullen grove]

At least gira darkrai are favs would've been pissed if they make dhelmise the best Pokemon in game lmaoo

Meow is ok too

[sullen grove]

Altaria gonna be op trust

[brave harness]

i didnt play meows pkmn game

but theres no way a cat starter wouldnt be my favorite

[brave harness]

i saw that swablu also got a waifu trainer in a new pkmn game

[sullen grove]

she's the best looking of the 3 even if she's still humanoid

[brave harness]

( )

[sullen grove]

I actually don't know altaria is synonymous with winona for me

Good times

Winona IS a good waifu tho

[brave harness]

i was memeing about grusha

https://tenor.com/uL5t0sPDoPe.gif

[sullen grove]

Still 🪵

Yeah I don't know much about violet either last one I follow is sword/shield

I only know meows actually and iono

Oh and that overworked guy they need to make him a card

[brave harness]

theres random characters i hear about that seem cool here n there

like zinnia

black and white 1 was the last pkmn i finished

[sullen grove]

Ah ya zinnia was a fan fav too I think

[brave harness]

they have a pretty cool story

also Lorekeeper is a crazy title

[sullen grove]

Whenever they decide to go to gen 3(and 6)

On another note I just opened the reddit tourney deck thread, crazy how many people are still confused why 'red card is good now'

Hooglandia had done a terrible thing to NA meta development

[brave harness]

its so simple to admit too

i saw a comment on one of his videos

he'll get fucked by a red card and be like "classic, punished because my opponent doesnt know basic math"

???????????

[arctic kite]

What’s so bad about red card

[brave harness]

in the past, mathematically, it often had low to negative value in matches

but theyve added so many "tell" cards that make red card strong

[sullen grove]

Yeah in the past it's arguable, now everyone's using rare candy so mars/red card has much higher disruption value

[river dragon]

red card deniers

pogO

[sullen grove]

Idk why he can't just say yes it used to be the case now it's p good because of this evidence

Not changing your mind to changing times is classic boomer behaviour tho

[brave harness]

even just the prevalence of meows makes it a viable deck tech

[sullen grove]

Jesus Christ 1300 games

(actually kinda lower than I thought)

[sullen grove]

Fitting card for u

[tacit stag]

i am big fish

[sullen grove]

Yes u r

[brave harness]

kinkakuj (the jp meows that top cutted i posted earlier) is playing gengar atm on stream

he played the 1st place deck, went 1W 4L
swapped to gengar and is currently 1W 3L

cinema

[sullen grove]

He's destined for meow

The gengar or togekiss version of that tapu lele deck has some nuances that take practice I feel like

Cannot let the main mon out too early

I'm also losing with togekiss in casual

[brave harness]

make cynthia more playable

https://tenor.com/bojsR.gif

[sullen grove]

I think togekiss is lowkey viable

Esp with how slow the meta is in masters (carnivine aside)

[brave harness]

it still bothers me that a deck style like arceus's underlings is an actual deck

carnivine looks so stupid

[river dragon]

it carried me from ub3 to 4

👇

[sullen grove]

I have this jank idea of bringing the wolf version of rampardos back

In theory they're p good against the top 2 decks, right? ...

[brave harness]

im not sure what ur counting as the top 2 decks if im being honest LMAO

[sullen grove]

The tourney decks om

[brave harness]

owlcat fucks on rampardos

let me verify my statement

ye

its only statistically bad matchups are: all fire decks, ori/magne, and arceus/crobat

[sullen grove]

Magne is what worries me as lizard player

[brave harness]

fire decks being 25-30% win rate
ori/magne being 30% win rate
arceus/crobat being 43% win rate

so if ur trying to beat the cat and something else, its probably gotta be one of those 3 decks

the tourney not having arceus/crobat is legit the only reason ori/magne did so well

[sullen grove]

I'll continue with lizard and hope I don't see many oris

The list im using does have non ex chari for that but I'd rather it doesn't come to that

[brave harness]

ori/magne farms the cat and lizard, but gets absolutely dumpstered by arceus crobat

the 2nd place overall ori/magne fought 0 arceus/crobat

4th place fought one and it was the first round of swiss

[sullen grove]

Arceus crobat what a deck

[brave harness]

they both just farmed owlcats

[brave harness]

its such an ugly deck

when i see a fully played out board, it just looks ugly

https://tenor.com/b6oZxLSXDB2.gif

[sullen grove]

That is the ugly arceus

[brave harness]

ok fair

but just like

the swirls on arceus underlings

crobat and carnivine look so ugly on the board

very unaesthetic deck

[sullen grove]

The Darkrai version is less ugly because the colours fit more

Kinda cope tho

[little oracle]

@sullen grove @river dragon @tacit stag

[sullen grove]

Gengar kinda useful now akshully

[river dragon]

👻

[tacit stag]

too bad i hate stage 2s

[twilit mason]

Have a nice day I'm happy for you :)

[twilit mason]

She looks cool

[brave harness]

https://tenor.com/bSx3t.gif

[twilit mason]

That is me after gacha atleast with genshin

[sullen grove]

He is

[tacit stag]

ewww male

[sullen grove]

He gets all the Alola girls

[little oracle]

@sullen grove @tacit stag

[tacit stag]

[untold mason]

[sullen grove]

Ok I finally tested that meow deck

Iz busted

https://old.reddit.com/r/PTCGP/comments/1kpia9b/togekiss_is_a_beast/ I also tested this guy's deck I actually always win vs darktina but I cannot win vs meow for the life of me

[tacit stag]

meh

[sullen grove]

I haven't seen any magnezone deck I'll prolly just play meow or chari to a safe position

Busted ass cat

https://tenor.com/view/meowscarada-pokemon-horizons-yawn-yawning-yawn-cat-gif-13969452106127431284

[sullen grove]

I got ionoed into meow + decidueye at the back

Busted ass deck

[sullen grove]

Ok bro that's a lie

[torn urchin]

What does he mean by "skilled"?

[sullen grove]

funniest thing ive seen

[oak wasp]

Gengar giratina

Tried to togekiss it should work but it doesnt

[raven hamlet]

next meta pls

release gen 3

[torn urchin]

@river dragon @twilit mason new vid https://youtube.com/shorts/ogTdveOYLQw?si=Ph2-hFMKGwAdzeWf

[oak wasp]

https://youtube.com/shorts/pwnWyZuHWBo?si=7FL8ke1frZaeKEb7

why I not lucky

[river dragon]

here's what im doing lately

what if we all play uno

[little oracle]

Could try

[twilit mason]

God I love this art @sullen grove is this you?

[twilit mason]

You quit Pokemon HUH

[twilit mason]

Because those who film these clips are those who watch and remember it's 0.01% chance that happens

[sullen grove]

next upload, koala rolls oricorio over

[twilit mason]

[sullen grove]

but no I'm chari/meow player now

[twilit mason]

WTF

No more Darkrai?

[sullen grove]

maybe next season

[twilit mason]

@tacit stag BEGGING need all yours Darkrai for value

[sullen grove]

darktina is getting hunted left and right in masters

[twilit mason]

It must be very unfun

It's like Lorcana 1 period when everyone played Discard

[sullen grove]

darktina can still win but it's all meow now so not very easy

[quartz jacinth]

@sullen grove has leveled up! (58 ➜ 59)

[sullen grove]

also i think that meow/decidueye deck is busted, whoever said it's a skillfull deck is lying

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CYgXBaE6Iq4

[twilit mason]

Glad green gets some love atleast

[sullen grove]

anyways i'll try not to queue again except if the top 10k baseline suddenly increases a lot need to actually finish games

ranked brings me e7 flashbacks

[little oracle]

Hello mama

[subtle cove]

deez nuts

[torn urchin]

I wouldn't mind

[brave harness]

not using professors research the moment u draw it is actual the pinnacle of skill expression

[sullen grove]

This guy doesn't make any sense lmao

Another hoog sheep

[brave harness]

some1 called him out and his response was "you have no way of knowing if u ever got value since u cant see their hand so the card is useless"

[sullen grove]

U just know so many ppl fail this retard check tho that's why they complain on reddit

[sullen grove]

Actual sheep

[brave harness]

"i triggered every single red card flag and he red card'd me, wtf???"

im not even sure what other decision making comes into play

especially with 2 erika 1 lillie variant

almost every matchup is purely meows into meows into owl

healing/playing around breakpoints is universal so that doesnt really count

i guess deck list knowledge for not overcommitting capes into guzma? but u could also just only play cape on the turn that its required...

[sullen grove]

"This meta is so rng everything gets red carded"

Yeah I really dunno what's especially skillful about it

[brave harness]

on the real tho

most of pokemon pocket feels that way

i think the most fun ive had was playing fighting toolbox

but most of the gameplay happens before the match starts with the deck theorycrafting

but as we saw with this tourney and every tourney

magically, every1 seems to run the same lists at the top

[sullen grove]

Yeah has always been, it just feels more real now

[brave harness]

"wait, ur telling me that there were only a few ppl that played ori/magne and the only ones that top cutted (also got 1st / 4th) were the ones running shaymin tech last minute?"

[sullen grove]

What I'll say is this game doesn't take much skill so it reflects even worse on these people when they seriously cry on leddit

The red card guys man

[twilit mason]

Game not hard

Just play broken pokemons and win

[brave harness]

why live

[river dragon]

[sullen grove]

it's a m*le anyway

[brave harness]

so true

[twilit mason]

https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/s/DuFDPBRkog @oak wasp

[torn urchin]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/s/DuFDPBRkog @oak wasp

[sullen grove]

Why are pokemon the worst with scalpers

Is it because it's the most known tcg for normies

Known brand rather

[tacit stag]

yuh

[torn urchin]

yup

[torn urchin]

I blame it all on those big youtubers who pack opening/collects for over a million of dollars

[twilit mason]

If you can make money

They will do anything

It's like shoes

PS5, egg and some more

[twilit mason]

@oak wasp do I open

[subtle cove]

open up live

[oak wasp]

HELLL NOO

That is GOLD

[stoic birch]

How much was it

[twilit mason]

166 dollar

[stoic birch]

[twilit mason]

[stoic birch]

Open it on ur deathbed

[twilit mason]

Will do

Right now I gonna keep it sealed

[torn urchin]

And then re-sell it for $1k

[brave harness]

wtf thats an awesome box

so much good shit

[twilit mason]

Yeah

Just sad Prismatic got shit rates

[twilit mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=522rTB-iIno

@tacit stag This is you with hoarding every good EX cards

[tacit stag]

noh

[twilit mason]

YES GUMI

[brave harness]

ok i give up

im not gonna pull lillie before season ends

so i gotta climb in 5 days

[twilit mason]

NOOOOOOOOOO

[brave harness]

without her

[twilit mason]

Okay I believe in you Chase

[brave harness]

been waiting for the entire month to pull her so i can start playing the game

but fuck me i guess

[twilit mason]

Pulling the one you want is low chance sadly atleast Trainers

Fuck me it's low chance to get those

[brave harness]

ya but with immersives it shouldve been so much easier

normally u get like 3-5 immersives per month

from the free packs

[twilit mason]

Yeah

If you get lucky from Pick and see double trainer or item

Im pulling

[brave harness]

this set ive opened 108 packs and gotten two 2*, 0 immersives

passimian was from wonder pick that i posted a few days ago

[twilit mason]

you got good ones

That yellow one tried 3 times

Did not get any of them

[brave harness]

https://tenor.com/view/nailong-yellow-dragon-gif-11878184204091418697

[twilit mason]

When you can trade I will trade you over Lillie

When new set hits

[brave harness]

i have normal lillies, but i appreciate it

[twilit mason]

Oh

[brave harness]

i dont play non FAs

[twilit mason]

You want the full art?

[brave harness]

ye

[twilit mason]

Ahh

I see

[brave harness]

if i dont have the FA, i just wont play it

[twilit mason]

Okay that is harder to pull

[raven hamlet]

https://x.com/gamestop/status/1924900109638320623

GameStop (@gamestop)

New Pokémon TCG products will now be limited to 1 per customer. Have fun!

X · May 20, 2025, 6:48 PM

america

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY-79rbOVP0

this guy

every release broke the hobby

[twilit mason]

Is he not buying everything?

[raven hamlet]

yeah

and he's having a blast opening those shit

[twilit mason]

I mean do not limited apply to him too?

[brave harness]

still not sure how i feel about iono

[sullen grove]

🪵

[sullen grove]

These things really ruin shiny packs

[brave harness]

100%

legit was just put in to ruin wonder pick exploiting

[sullen grove]

Like who asked for those

[river dragon]

i asked

[sullen grove]

!obliterate krisian

[arctic kite]

[sullen grove]

agane wadehek

[brave harness]

I DONT WANT THIS STUPID KOALA

[sullen grove]

He's actually relevant tho

Also cute

[brave harness]

i only play grass

[sullen grove]

God I hope they merge pack points, I'm at an awkward amount per expansion

But that's why they won't do it

[brave harness]

i end with 500 every time

[sullen grove]

I'm at 700-900 each because of the monthly and a few bucks I spent

Rationally I'd craft what I need but foil mars...

[brave harness]

ya theres like 1 FA trainer i want per set

just so i can play those tech cards

like Iono

or Cyrus

not being able to use Cyrus is annoying

GET OUT OF MY HEAD

https://tenor.com/bMwgP.gif

[sullen grove]

It's darktina time

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-dark-side-anakin-skywalker-darth-vader-revenge-of-the-sith-gif-25702979

[brave harness]

legit might need to swap decks if i wanna climb before ranked ends

so few EX decks

and owlcat stalls ppl out with heals so wins take so long

on top of ppl just refusing to concede and instead closing the app?

[river dragon]

wasting your time is a dub for them

[brave harness]

if only they knew how little i cared...

[sullen grove]

Owlcat is still best deck overall I feel

I didn't know how to play it and I got win streak to safety easy

"skillful deck"

[brave harness]

ya i just mean for speed climbing

its hella good but slow most of the time

especially if vs non ex

[sullen grove]

Hmm I feel it's one of the faster ones tbh, but pocket is kinda slow for an online card game surprisingly

Like almost no good aggro decks

Except ugly arceus

[brave harness]

really

[sullen grove]

Darktina is super slow... So is tapu lele

[brave harness]

thats true

https://tenor.com/7xdm.gif

[sullen grove]

And Ori stall decks yeah

[brave harness]

wtf

game was stuck loading

reset app, still gets stuck loading

then counts as loss

[sullen grove]

scamazed

happened once to me too

[sullen grove]

[brave harness]

the rich get richer... (grats)

[tacit stag]

i wuz gonna get mad when i saw the shiny border but then i saw rainbow border and it wuz ogey

[brave harness]

bottom 5 cards```
decidueye
dartrix
professors research
professors research
rare candy

the only way i lose is rare candy and i draw it ![Classic](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1129890165092003891.webp?size=128 "Classic")

[river dragon]

queue up !

[brave harness]

ppl are so fucking cringe LMAO

[little oracle]

35%

ppl now know the strat

[brave harness]

lets all just copy the recent tourney's 1st place deck

surely it means ill also get 1st place!

[sullen grove]

My guilty pleasure is opening these kinds of threads on reddit

[tacit stag]

vro

[sullen grove]

[brave harness]

surely

every single game opponent always lucky

im having one of those unlucky games right now vs a dumbass deck

this bastidion has flipped heads 4 times and i cant do damage to him

[sullen grove]

Reddit tier deck that one

[brave harness]

simply wcyd

ok im being trolled

LMAO

how do i go from bastiodon to this dumbass hitting heads on every revavroom flip

he just hit it again while i was bitching

nvm im the goat

[sullen grove]

Sheeesh

Owl too strong

[tacit stag]

pass

[river dragon]

whats your rank now @brave harness

[brave harness]

430, just started for the day, going for 400 pts a day

just a matter of playing the right amount of games since this deck shouldnt lose to much

[tacit stag]

400 points a day

[brave harness]

only gave myself 5 days for 0 to master

kept waiting for immersive lillie and the game continued to fuck me

[sullen grove]

400 a day wut da

[sullen grove]

dont remind me, and of course theres a certain someone who has 3 foil lilies and 2 immersives

[tacit stag]

[brave harness]

must be an idiot bastard

i dont even wanna math out the odds of not pulling immersive or 2* by x number of packs

cause ill be mad

but im tempted

[brave harness]

this dudes gotta go to hell

LMAO

[sullen grove]

[brave harness]

he did it turn 1 and 2

and got rid of my energy both times

luckily it was a failed dogshit gimmick deck and he blew his load too fast

after his pidgeot, he tried to use oranguru????

didnt even know the card existed

[sullen grove]

oh i faced someone like that lmao

in casual tho

lacGimmick vibes

[brave harness]

didnt know it was even a pokemon if im being real

all the quirky gimmick decks are japanese players

[sullen grove]

different guy then, the one i faced was korean

[brave harness]

what they doin over there in east asia

[tacit stag]

ju woodnt get it

[sullen grove]

[brave harness]

grats

im fighting just

literal terrorists

what the fuck is ur problem bro

[tacit stag]

rawr

[brave harness]

turn 1 -> mars
cry for help -> red card
cry for help -> mars
leave me alone

[river dragon]

Mars enjoyers

[brave harness]

hes a loser cause he has non-FA mars

[river dragon]

uno player are sweats

[brave harness]

holy fuck this guy just boomed me

turn 2 team rocket heads into banette and i have no other basics...

damn that fella is just stuck there forever

LMAO

[sullen grove]

bannette is one of those cards where if it's OP reddit gonna cry non stop

annoying ass pokemon

[brave harness]

surprising amount of rocket grunt players

its just made me auto lose twice

but so does mars/red card for most part, so i dont care too much

i fought some1 playing a cool deck

druddigon garchomp(baby) shaymin

[sullen grove]

dragon tamer

[brave harness]

if i wasnt owl start into 3 turn brick, it probably wouldve looked a lot shittier than it did, but he got online for free

[sullen grove]

i think you just need more skill, it's a skillful deck

[brave harness]

the amount of times i see ppl on streams or yt videos say:
"i tried this deck for 3/4 games and lost every time, i dont think its that good"

like

thats just not how this works at all, is it...

[sullen grove]

we all meme about skill and shit but i think you do need 3-4 games at least to get a feel for a deck

cant just decide a deck is not good after 3-4 games

[brave harness]

its also just so contextless

in 3 games, u couldve fought 2 bad matchups and bricked once

or any assortment of things

no deck or player wins 100% of games

[sullen grove]

i played hearthstone before but ptcgp community takes the cake in terms of how bad they are

maybe cos pokemon is normie

[brave harness]

possible

also 3 english ytbers made videos today saying to play gallade ramp

and 2 japan streamers have been playing similar or same ramp deck

yes yes every1 swap so i get STAB

[sullen grove]

is it even good

[brave harness]

i didnt watch

but one was titled like I WENT 19-0 TO MASTERS WITH THIS DECK

and the other was similar

legit just mostly RPS anyways in UB-entry masters

make video for grass one day

next day prep video for fire to counter the grass u told every1 to play

next day prep darktina, oricorio, etc. etc.

[sullen grove]

[brave harness]

ppl are legit so noticably sheep to streamer decks

and i just found out why i fought 3 togekiss today

[tacit stag]

nyot me

[sullen grove]

togekiss was in that tourney too i think

at least i can claim i play it before he made a video

[brave harness]

it was

[sullen grove]

[brave harness]

cynthia on togekiss actually hurts so bad

[sullen grove]

mogwai at least can play

there's only 1 guy who i actively unfollowed lmao

mr (anti) red card

[tacit stag]

i dun watch any of those frauds

[brave harness]

i use it as background noise

[brave harness]

i watch him for schadenfreude

[sullen grove]

i watch MST, he pretty good

and he's nice too

[brave harness]

that one yt comment i sent about a dude sayin the dumbets shit about red card

i ended up watching a hoog video that said what that dude said in his comment word for word

and the video was posted before the comment

actual cultist word for wording from his favorite content creator

https://youtu.be/6Zd71mzyiCg?t=324

[sullen grove]

im not clicking that the only baldy thats scammier than lacari

[brave harness]

he right after that tries to state that ppl are sometimes running 2 mars 2 red card

who

who and what deck

[sullen grove]

putting up strawmans for his cult

[brave harness]

oh raven was the other one that made a video

[sullen grove]

raven uses hipster decks

probably not exceptionally good if matched against actual good decks

[brave harness]

ya idk why multiple of them settled on gallade

of all ramp partners

[sullen grove]

oh hes playing rn

[brave harness]

o he is

[sullen grove]

sick and working from home privilege, watching streams on the other monitor

[sullen grove]

if lusamine is asian i can believe it

[brave harness]

3 hour break over, back to grind

[tacit stag]

i wood her daughter

[river dragon]

what's your goal, top 1k?

[brave harness]

ur not safe gumi

[tacit stag]

monkaE

[brave harness]

no i just wanna get 0-master ball done

didnt play last season cause i didnt get the FAs i wanted and then didnt play this season for same reason

but realized im just gonna infinite loop never play the game and just theorycraft decks

and thats gonna get boring

[sullen grove]

we'll get back to theorycrafting next week or 2

[river dragon]

in june, we all meet in UB

[brave harness]

i have no clue any leaks for next set

to even see what kinda grass cards im getting

[river dragon]

full art mosquito

[brave harness]

what if they give grass shedinja

and its just oricorio

[tacit stag]

den it'd suck cuz its stag 1

[brave harness]

but what if its stage 1 oricorio beast mode + leaf cape + healing

[sullen grove]

stage 1 can be good if it has passives like magneton

[brave harness]

i also think it will be funny if we end up getting a thin enough deck template, where after meowscarada falls off, we play pokecomms + sprigatito without any stage1/2 just so we have a searcher/deck thin

[sullen grove]

even now stage 1 like golbat or mini-rampardos (forgor name) is decent enuff

[river dragon]

as long as this Pokémon is in the Active Spot, the abilities of opposing Pokémon on the bench cannot be activated

[sullen grove]

shadowverse 17 June weebs, be there or be square

gonna spam collectibles again

[brave harness]

o fuck

i forgot to collect the free packs on shadowverse 1

[tacit stag]

noh

[sullen grove]

wut da

[brave harness]

they did 250 at first and now theyre doing another 150 thats still active

[sullen grove]

cant wait to jump back in ngl

[brave harness]

fighting the gengar deck for first time

this decks pretty strong if the person fighting it gets tail 3 turns in a row

psychic has so many fun cards now

the fabled rowlet skill issue dive

(my bottom 3 cards wer dartrix, meowscarada, rare candy)

[sullen grove]

[brave harness]

1 lidl owl vs literal satan

[sullen grove]

how come there are so many rocket grunts lul

[little oracle]

did u just grind 23 hours just to get 400 point?

wtf u find the time

[brave harness]

im retired

just doing this instead of playing bdo

[river dragon]

[brave harness]

a surprising amount of my losses are to it too

all the articuno misty players migrated

also it hasnt been that many hours

[river dragon]

[brave harness]

[river dragon]

i swiped for the no ads pack

time to switch to f2p account

[little oracle]

ads?

[brave harness]

u have multiple accounts for uno???

[little oracle]

even uno?

[river dragon]

its cheap

tho im using this one to block all ads from it "dns-adguard-dns.com"

[little oracle]

p?

peso?

[river dragon]

Philippine peso yeah 🇵🇭

[little oracle]

pinoy boy

[river dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/pinoy-pride-philippine-flag-philippines-gif-20327958

[tacit stag]

sorry for ur bad spawn

[sullen grove]

Send the pipe down gif gumi

[river dragon]

it has never been so joever

[tacit stag]

https://tenor.com/view/settle-down-pipe-down-pinoy-swagapino-filipinx-gif-699151363771876631

[river dragon]

play uno with me @sullen grove

[sullen grove]

No way jose

[river dragon]

lesgo 2v2

[sullen grove]

I had bicol express for lunch tho

It was nice

[river dragon]

had it the other day as well

[tacit stag]

dat looks ugli

adobo betta

[sullen grove]

wut da

[brave harness]

[brave harness]

LMAO

hoog: "red card is shit cause math"

random 2k master japanese player:

dead card is mishearing him say rekka / red card

"30% of the time you automatically win by playing red card"

[sullen grove]

yah i agree with him more or less

[brave harness]

meowscaradas so easy to fucker over with it

[twilit mason]

Krisian are you burnout from pokemon?

[river dragon]

hit mb rank, nothing else to do over there

next month, ill try to queue up ranks

[sullen grove]

im also chilling now

4 more days til season ends

maybe announcement soon so I can justify opening my wallet

[sullen grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THRrAVUQgUw

[tacit stag]

ah shit the leaks were rite

[sullen grove]

lusamine Arisu

hag love

[tacit stag]

ngl most of these ultra beasts look super gimmicky or useless tho

guess we gotta wait and see tho

tapu exs might be huge tho

[sullen grove]

yeah need to see the whole set

[tacit stag]

lusamine is probably the saving grace for these ultra beasts

[sullen grove]

the brood mother

[tacit stag]

zeraora might finally make lightning aggro viable (doubt)

and dis was the gumispot live reaction ty ty

[sullen grove]

guzzlord seems lacGimmick and annoying

[tacit stag]

ye guzzlord might actually be viable just cuz of its bulk too

as soon as u get two energy u can spam it to cuck the other team then energy/lusamine up to ur attack

[sullen grove]

theres also that celesteela which allows you to retreat ultra beasts

its attack is kinda dog tho

[tacit stag]

i dont rly see these guys comboing with each other either

so celesteela's value is kinda mid

[twilit mason]

Give free deck

[tacit stag]

the hope is necrozma exists

and that its a super ultra beast that pairs with them

otherwise

[sullen grove]

theres probably some trainer cards yeah

but i think it's a good sign that we can't immediately pin point OP shit

[tacit stag]

i tink dey might stay mid

[little oracle]

Hahaha

I was right

Atleast its only 1 pack

[sullen grove]

thats what people think about giratina too, let's see

[tacit stag]

rly i thot giratina was op

well on 2nd glance

[sullen grove]

i do need a rest though

i want my foils

[tacit stag]

maybe deez nuts might be da same

[little oracle]

But wtf is tag "ultra beast"

[tacit stag]

separate tag probs for items/trainers

[little oracle]

Lusa only deck?

[tacit stag]

mayaps, onli time will tell

[sullen grove]

guzzlord reminds me of sensei

[tacit stag]

wut da

[sullen grove]

nevermind

[tacit stag]

y wood ju say that . .

[sullen grove]

nuh uh

[river dragon]

just finished my 2nd job

(ragnarok mobile, guild war)

[river dragon]

mosquito

[tacit stag]

skipppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

god that energy is so horrible

apparently its the promo so that makes sense i guess

cant have good shit for free

[little oracle]

Imagine discard candy

And giratina

[sullen grove]

If it's 2 psychic 2 colorless it can see some use id reckon

Metal is so rough tho

[little oracle]

@sullen grove @tacit stag @river dragon

[sullen grove]

[brave harness]

I refuse to accept that there is a pokemon called Buzzwole

What the fuck

Also wtf is an Mr beast pokemon

Ok well i guess I get another month to pull current set and get Lillie cause this entire pack seems self contained Mr beast synergy decks

[little oracle]

Butthole

[brave harness]

Guzzlord punishing decks for not running a druddi, ori, snorlax front tank

[river dragon]

[brave harness]

its dawned on me

how the fuck does every1 have 2 CR pokeballs

this game is pumping so much money LMAO

[hallow bronze]

ye they have crazy revenue

60-120 mil a month

[brave harness]

i just realized how fucked i got from triumphant light

i got one 2* FA from that entire set

and it was adaman...

[brave harness]

opened MST stream and hes fighting some bastard

dude stole my name and deck

[river dragon]

[brave harness]

also so much fucking solgaleo today

like more than half

[sullen grove]

Buzzwole

[brave harness]

wait wtf

how does double KO work

i just had to go thru literal hell for a loss

[sullen grove]

If enemy has pokemon on the bench and u don't, it's his win

[brave harness]

i had to go thru 2 pawmots and 2 oricorios

for a double ko loss

[sullen grove]

Basically there are 2 wincons, first to 3 and first to kill all pokemon on board

[brave harness]

so many outplays too

[sullen grove]

In your case your enemy still has pokemon on board and you don't so it's 2 wincons to 1

[brave harness]

ye

[sullen grove]

He gets the win

[brave harness]

makes sense (cringe)

i bricked and still made so many outplays to get that to be a double ko

baited him to committing oricorio cause i kept cause i kept trading hits and heals with owl and then swapped to meow with gio and 1 shot it

and then he had another

pretty funny deck to fight but i actually have no clue how it does anything if u dont get first turn oricorio + tapu on the bench to start pumping energy like he did

[sullen grove]

lacGimmick deck

[brave harness]

speaking of gimmick, what in tarnation am i looking at

[sullen grove]

Hoooooly gimmick

I think I saw a leddit post on weezing before

[brave harness]

ok fuck me i guess

sabrina'd it forward into 2 cyrus

just let my fucking cat live bro

how did this dude fit all this LMAO

unless he actually only has 1 darkrai arceus and just start with all 4 cards turn 1 by RNG

[tacit stag]

probs has 1 more arceus, zubat, crobat, and 3 supps

[brave harness]

owl start and last 3 cards had 2 rare candys so im not sure if thats actually a bad matchup

at least that was a nice long-ish one

my last 3 games were me losing before turn 5 from rare candy

its weird that theres games on this deck that u legit dont want to evolve owl

because its dead useless and ur giving free 2 points instead of 1 for 2 meows

wtf did i just stumble into

[sullen grove]

oh this is a deck that pools energy to rayquaza im guessing

not sure what the gira is for though

dawn?

[brave harness]

idk im pretty the dude misplayed every single turn

so maybe hes having fun

[brave harness]

im boutta to screenshot it every time

just for a nice little montage at the end

such an insane amount of losses to turn 2 rampardos

[sullen grove]

it is a dirty dirty deck

[brave harness]

and now...

inner peace....

[river dragon]

[brave harness]

i just need to play enough games to average out the going 2nd

i think im starting to miss the solgaleo decks, some1 make a video about it quick

fire fire ramp ramp fire ramp fire ramp ramp fire fire

[sullen grove]

lucky i played my grass deck when it was all darktina/tapus

"my"

[sullen grove]

mst just played one right can yoink it

[brave harness]

not sure i can stream snipe him even if i wanted to

[brave harness]

i havent fought a single darktina deck yet today

i fought some abomination deck that i posted earlier
arceus darkrai
darkrai weavile

but 0 darktina

most of these matches are legit just speedruns

i go 2nd and get rare candy meows and win or they get rare candy stage 2 and they win

[sullen grove]

oh i thought you wanna play solgaleo

[brave harness]

nah earlier i was only fighting them

im trying to stick to just this deck

even tho the environment is not great for it rn

started at

now WL is

6-11 rn

[sullen grove]

ooop

[brave harness]

2 losses were winnable from a possible misplay (no way to know without knowing what they had in hand like guzmas)

but the rest is mostly just fire/ramp rare candy

interesting, given the environment spread, the best performing deck for this would be giratina greninja

[river dragon]

[little oracle]

@river dragon his wr better than you

[river dragon]

still in mb tho

[brave harness]

3 losses were error into not able to reconnect and it just gave me a loss

altho that hasnt happened the last 2 days

i did decide to start tracking stats tho

[brave harness]

holy fuck

this athena dude is up like 200 or 300 pts in a few hours ???

top 3 are all a win/loss away from each other

[sullen grove]

my boy Saka will pull away again when it's time

[brave harness]

no streaking in ultra ball makes this a lot longer than i wanted

[sullen grove]

yeah first journey to master is a SLOG

the following seasons will be faster though because you start in ub3/4

[tacit stag]

dats wut dey all say

[brave harness]

i hope the rest of new sets cards are just as uninteresting as the trailer

[tacit stag]

den we get anotha month of dis

[brave harness]

1 more month of immersive lillie attempts

[little oracle]

Yall using reddit deck too much

[brave harness]

what reddit deck

[little oracle]

Meme deck

[brave harness]

not me

i only play grass and playing best grass deck

just means im fucked when the day is leaning anti-grass

[little oracle]

They should make leaderboard mono element each deck

[brave harness]

ppl swap too much unfortunately

[little oracle]

Ye

[brave harness]

if only this game had more loyalists

[river dragon]

[tacit stag]

im loyal

to darktina

[brave harness]

thats not very swag of u

[tacit stag]

daz wut happens wen demun takes ova

[brave harness]

what were u playing before