Magic: The Gathering

[deft lake]

I dont really understand why Rhystic Study single is so expensive, I don't think its the case that all showcase art are expensive, like I just bought this for a couple cents

[sacred adder]

In design we say you should never prioritize form over function

[oak hazel]

different strokes i guess

[oak hazel]

this one ugly

[sacred adder]

Rhystic is insanely powerful card in commander

Any version is like 40-50$ min

[deft lake]

ohh

[sacred adder]

Its a staple card so to have a special print is cool

[deft lake]

is rhystic study always played in standard?

seems likeit keeps coming back

[oak hazel]

frank lloyd wright was an architect not a mtg designer

[sacred adder]

Nah its more of a commander thing at this time

Its not legal in standard

[deft lake]

oh kk

[sacred adder]

Yea

If i had the FF nostalgia it would hit diff

[deft lake]

yeah i think objectively these showcase screenshot look ass

i'd much prefer some original artwork

[sacred adder]

Yea put yourself in the mindset of a commander table

3 turns in between yours

And enchantments are harder to remove than a lot of other shit

Its like tagging a 1 mana cost on every single spell

So players are like "fuck we gotta pay the cost"

But then what, also when they hit each other?

Shit always devolves into draw lol

[deft lake]

oh i see

commander seems fun, it feelsl ike its really popular

[sacred adder]

Yea its a fun messy format

[deft lake]

i think commander decks are giga expensive for this set too

[oak hazel]

my take on those showcase art cards is they are homages to the franchise and they aren’t new cards, they are cards that everyone already knows what they do so the text is secondary

i’m also a sucker for the watercolor concept art of ff

[deft lake]

yeah you mean the yoshitaka amano ones right

[sacred adder]

This is another commander staple enchantment

With a shitty social contract

[oak hazel]

ye

[deft lake]

https://www.tcgplayer.com/search/magic/product?productLineName=magic&q=YOSHITAKA+AMANO&view=grid

[grizzled wasp]

@deft lake has leveled up! (19 ➜ 20)

[sacred adder]

I love cringe toxic enchants

[deft lake]

enchantments seem like an annoyinig but useful tactic in commander

its like the marginal value in removing it seems low.. but slowly gives you advantage over time

I think the shitty thing they also did with this set is animefying a lot of characters

not really a big fan of this, I feel like MTG fits so well with FF because of its semi-realistic / conceptual arty character design

like this is way better

[sacred adder]

See these look great

[sacred adder]

Love this treatment

The big color backgrounds that let the character stand out

Nice cards

And yea the whole animefication

Is a staple now since woe

They did it in blb too

Furry anime Jace

Cool cards but idk

Different strokes here too

For me the liliana dunks tho

[deft lake]

yeah but i guess it buys certain weeb fans

[sacred adder]

So does ms bumble

And a lot of the blb raised foils

But not for 500$

[deft lake]

furries

[sacred adder]

Super sick card

[deft lake]

aethestically best executed art for a set i've seen is probably lotr

[sacred adder]

I love duskmourn i think its a great set

Man after all this ub bullshit

Spiderman

God damn spongebob

I hope they dont fuck up eoe

[deft lake]

what theres a spongebob set

[sacred adder]

Like just give me a good solid space fantasy

With planets and black holes and scifi fascists

And dont make it stupid

[sacred adder]

Secret lair

[deft lake]

oh idk what that is but ive seen there some FF there too

seems like another crossover set

[sacred adder]

Legit just some fucking screenshots

[deft lake]

[deft lake]

wait these are all memes

i guess the first screenshot u posted is

[sacred adder]

Yep

They called it internet sensation

[deft lake]

OG wokege

[unique elm]

Patrick being Rakdos is not something I expected

[sacred adder]

An unusable rakdos card btw

Rrb4 for a 6/5 like its 1995

Scaled wurm type shit

[unique elm]

True, but can you imagine cheating that into play

and smacking someone with it

and then...

winning

[sacred adder]

Shit i was close

1994 actually

At least they had the caption right

"i dont get it..."

Like how is plankton white

[deft lake]

is this the og barktooth

[sacred adder]

And patrick rakdos lolol

For me the best fit is sandi and toski

[sacred adder]

Yea

[deft lake]

is the magic universe coherent it feels like every new set they add to some existing story

[unique elm]

There's an overall plot that keeps progressing

[sacred adder]

Yea

[unique elm]

but some sets are self contained

[sacred adder]

All original sets kinda progress the world

[unique elm]

and lately we've been getting meme sets

[deft lake]

i think most MTG cards and the art are great, but it feels like they lose "meaning" because it doesn't feel like there's a narrative to MTG -- just some cool fantasy cards

[sacred adder]

And you have sets weaker than others like "oooo our characters are cowboys"

"ooo our characters drive cars"

Man fuck Aetherdrift

[deft lake]

i thought aetherdrift was a cross over

[unique elm]

You can read all about the story on the MTG set, it has some good storytelling moments, like brothers war and dominaria

Aetherdrift and Outlaws of Thunderjunction

what were they thinking

[deft lake]

what about the next set in september

[unique elm]

It's space cosmic stuff

so maybe some Eldrazi

[deft lake]

edge of eternity

yeah isn't that what ntx was hoping for

space aesthetics

[sacred adder]

Yea

EoE

Their space opera set

[unique elm]

there's was a preview of some art already

[sacred adder]

I hope they deliver cool world building with it

I didnt buy into tarkir but i hear it was good

[unique elm]

Tarkir is fun if you enjoy the clans and dragons

Can't wait for some new degen artifacts and Tezzeret

[sacred adder]

Thats in eoe right?

Man fuxk

It angers me

That theres no better connection between paper mtg

And mtga

And that mtga is kind of ass

[deft lake]

yeah.. i wished you could "upload" ur card somehow

[sacred adder]

You can kinda

But not in the official app

I think you eventually get thousands of wildcards and can do w/e you want

But im not trying to buy virtual cards personally

[deft lake]

wdym?

like there's a way to get value in mtga through physical cards?

[sacred adder]

Nah third parties

But also some shit like starter decks give you codes

Imo this should be in every single precon tho

[unique elm]

[deft lake]

is it normal that display boosters are 160 MSRP now? and with only 30 packs?

i remmebered for prev sets (at least in 2021 when i first started), they're like 36 packs for 100 bucjks

[brave sluice]

THAT CARD IS FAKE

[oak hazel]

oh yeah?

[brave sluice]

This card match my limit break deck perfectly

[brave sluice]

Im just jealous okay

[oak hazel]

from the fake collector booster from my lgs a

[brave sluice]

HAHAH

Okay here we go

[oak hazel]

i kinda wanna make a gilgamesh deck

[brave sluice]

He's nice

Best part of this set. It's so many good equipments

[oak hazel]

voltron or samurai deck hmm

i also really wanna build eluge still

[brave sluice]

How about go for gilgamesh deck first and after eluge?

[oak hazel]

wait fuck i forgot i bought winota. i’ll do that first

[brave sluice]

Ohhh

[oak hazel]

i already bought imperial recruiter and fire dancer for it

oooo i also picked up an extended art veyran for ghyrson on vacation

i’ll send pics when i get home

[brave sluice]

Do it

Ppl are starting to hate my play set of Sleight of Hand

[oak hazel]

that art is cool

[brave sluice]

But yeah im trying to get back to Commander

Right now I having fun with Blitz and Limit break precons

I did dismantle most of my other commanders

Next commander will be Cleric deck with trying to gain life and buff my clerics

How about Slicer?

[oak hazel]

i hear the blame game precon is actually op

[brave sluice]

Yeah

[oak hazel]

i also have always wanted to build beamtown

this shit ends the game so fast

[brave sluice]

Damn

Have you seen the Levianthan in Blitz precon?

[oak hazel]

nah

[brave sluice]

I won on turn 5 with it

Stole every counter and made it to 30/30

[oak hazel]

oh yeah sin is sick

[brave sluice]

Stupid of this card is when it dies move those counters to another creature

And back to deck

The Final Fantasy got a really good card I like if you play Red/White with Gilgamesh for equipment

[sacred adder]

beautiful card

[brave sluice]

Cheap card

[sacred adder]

yea its shit

its just a worst stock up

stock up too strong tbh

[[stock up]]

[teal bluff]

https://scryfall.com/card/dft/67/stock-up

Stock Up <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Look at the top five cards of your library. Put two of them into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.
"We are now accepting over eleven different interplanar currencies, including polished moonfall!"

[oak hazel]

2 new pickups i was talking abt earlier

roinya is for the kiki jikki infinite in winota

[wanton plume]

@oak hazel staple if you're playing bracket 3+

I'm cringing at all those rhystic studies being linked

But yeah Smothering tithe is pretty close to rhystic as well

[wanton plume]

I have a friend that has a slicer commander deck. You fucker don't you dare

[brave sluice]

Now with new equipments

[unique elm]

[sacred adder]

source

[unique elm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/mtg/comments/1lfvsdi/eoe_tezzeret_cruel_captain/

[sacred adder]

fuckin

crazy

tbh

[unique elm]

I bet we're getting some cool vehicles and artifacts in EoE

[unique elm]

Good luck!

[deft lake]

manifesting foiled amano cards, sephiroth, vivi and rhystic study

[last lantern]

[brave sluice]

You know japanese cards are expensive as hell

[oak hazel]

dang i even like the show but this looks lame

[unique elm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicArena/comments/1lgfbjf/artwork_from_edge_of_eternities/

[unique elm]

And it'll be playable everywhere

[brave sluice]

How many packs

[last lantern]

6

[brave sluice]

Lucky

gz

What else did you get?

[last lantern]

@brave sluice

[sacred adder]

fantastic

[unique elm]

They updated the commander rules today

You can have legendary spacecrafts and vehicles as your commander now

[unique elm]

Kefka, Dark Condidant and Zodiark look amazing

I love how scuffed that A Promise Fullfilled card art is

[sacred adder]

man

Guys

im up to no good rn

[deft lake]

when are you not

[sacred adder]

why ar ecoolectors boxes so expensive

[unique elm]

Hop on arena

They're doing an event with collector boxes as prize

[sacred adder]

whast the cardlist for this

[deft lake]

i haven't been on arena for ages

[sacred adder]

eh

its ass

ok i wont buy that

do it or nah?

[unique elm]

I'd do it, just because the art showcase today showed an Eldrazi

[deft lake]

edge of eternities play boosters are 210 wtf

oh is this canadian

[sacred adder]

yep

[sacred adder]

I changed my mind

not buying yet

[brave sluice]

https://www.youtube.com/live/NmPNt_k_R2w?si=AZ2MVVebVMSEPdYA&t=17451

God I love this card

[oak hazel]

what the fuck

not being green kinda cucks it but still

[brave sluice]

I'm thinking to buy 3

[violet cloak]

https://youtu.be/2_-AglOmDwc

[last lantern]

its my fav from all of those tbh

[sacred adder]

yea mtg is too expensive

[unique elm]

That's just lack of imagination

you can proliferate lore counters on sagas, speed up your jeskai super friends deck, etc

[unique elm]

FF8 best FF

[wanton plume]

Yeah everything about it is lmao. Oh, you want to make a new deck in new colors you never built before? Gotta spend like 200 dollars for lands to have a decent mana base

[last lantern]

also

are u guys gonna hate me if i get adventures of little witch foil box?

[sacred adder]

Nah

Buy whatever you want

Buy proxies for all i care

You're still supporting the hobby

[sacred adder]

Its nice

[unique elm]

Maybe

[wanton plume]

Proxy the good lands cuz fuck the prices

[sacred adder]

[[watery grave]]

[teal bluff]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/261/watery-grave

Watery Grave

Land — Island Swamp
(: Add or .)
As this land enters, you may pay 2 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.
"Log 2.9.089: Lammuat, the cemetery moon of salvage and secrets. Could be profitable for those brave enough to plumb its recesses." —Maisie's Edge Chronicles

[sacred adder]

[[$watery grave]]

[teal bluff]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/261/watery-grave

Prices for Watery Grave

Ravnica: Clue Edition

$38.17 • €25.68 • 5.85 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$16.92 • €14.72 • 1.89 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$28.57 • 3.99 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$21.18 • 18.56 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$949.05

Unfinity

$37.45 • €30.27 • 18.64 TIX

Unfinity

$123.42 • €108.65

Secret Lair Drop

$17.30 • €16.01

Magic Online Promos

2.10 TIX

[sacred adder]

its being reprinted in EOE

[[$breeding pool]]

[teal bluff]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/251/breeding-pool

Prices for Breeding Pool

Ravnica: Clue Edition

$31.83 • €25.47 • 4.23 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$20.95 • €18.06 • 1.75 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$29.37 • 1.45 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$21.80 • 9.50 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$751.28

Unfinity

$31.97 • €24.91 • 8.45 TIX

Unfinity

$94.73 • €91.95

Secret Lair Drop

$23.65 • €21.74

Magic Online Promos

2.61 TIX

[sacred adder]

[[$godless shrine]]

[teal bluff]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/254/godless-shrine

Prices for Godless Shrine

Ravnica: Clue Edition

$31.97 • €20.81 • 3.62 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$17.49 • €12.43 • 1.64 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$30.08 • 2.49 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$20.63 • 14.68 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$1,296.30

Unfinity

$32.24 • €26.66 • 11.56 TIX

Unfinity

$124.57 • €102.42

Secret Lair Drop

$19.59 • €14.29

Magic Online Promos

1.08 TIX

[sacred adder]

[[$sacred foundry]]

[teal bluff]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/256/sacred-foundry

Prices for Sacred Foundry

Ravnica: Clue Edition

$28.97 • €27.49 • 8.87 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$19.16 • €17.08 • 3.80 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$23.71 • 3.68 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$20.08 • 15.10 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$687.50

Unfinity

$30.79 • €27.40 • 18.16 TIX

Unfinity

$92.51 • €90.19

Secret Lair Drop

$21.23 • €19.96

Magic Online Promos

3.16 TIX

[sacred adder]

[[$stomping ground]]

[teal bluff]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/258/stomping-ground

Prices for Stomping Ground

Ravnica: Clue Edition

$25.03 • €18.79 • 3.11 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$13.82 • €11.41 • 2.47 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$20.86 • 3.05 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$16.86 • 11.28 TIX

Unfinity

$29.05 • €22.89 • 16.17 TIX

Unfinity

$92.34 • €88.04

Secret Lair Drop

$13.77 • €12.47

Magic Online Promos

1.99 TIX

[sacred adder]

I want watery grave and godless shrine

[last lantern]

i saw a lot of posts that this set is predatory

cuz foil is more expensive

• bonus card is random zombie

[brave sluice]

I dont want to say it's FF fans problem more like ppl abusing the pricing of cards. Just hoping some cards goes down in value but who knows. Spiderman maybe become more of the Marvel fans

[last lantern]

i meant little witch thing

[sacred adder]

Overall expensive hobby

But fun game

Every set is predatory

Hasbro trying to milk the community dry

Pro Tour Metagame Depicts Most Broken MTG Deck in Years https://share.google/7HuVpZNz9JoiUulUc

[brave sluice]

I'm a filthy Izzet player

[oak hazel]

these ff play boosters are so much value

i don’t think i’ve got a pack yet I haven’t broke even on

pulled a starting town and the red adventure land today

[brave sluice]

That is why im going on draft instead

This is bad @unique elm

[deft lake]

Nice

[unique elm]

[last lantern]

i NEED it

[deft lake]

oh this is pretty

[last lantern]

this is so nice too

[violet cloak]

[last lantern]

I SEE U LIKING IT

[violet cloak]

Very pretty colors

[last lantern]

https://secretlair.wizards.com/eu/product/1151127/featuring-luke-pearson

its lower price than others

and all cards are SO PRETTY

im honestly in love

[violet cloak]

Sadly I'm tapped out on cards atm I have property taxes to pay and then I'll pick up more during vacation.

[last lantern]

:3

so pretty

[last lantern]

i manifest unexpected money

[brave sluice]

Vivi in final...

I fucking hate magic man

Mono red once again...

It's time to invest in 4x Nemesis Screamers

[sacred adder]

Bans soon

They have to rein izzet prowess and mono red back

[unique elm]

amazing art, holy

[unique elm]

And it lost

I'm telling you

Shit is too slow for current standard

[last lantern]

i think im gonna get it its so fricking stunning

just thinking if foil or non foil

[unique elm]

If it were me, I'd get non-foil

I generally think foil makes the cards look worse

[brave sluice]

I'm fine if they ban monstrous

[brave sluice]

Top 8 only izzet or mono red

[unique elm]

That won't do much

[brave sluice]

Cori steel cutter is not broken as mono red

[unique elm]

I hope I'm wrong, but I bet WOTC will just say 'wait for EOE'

[unique elm]

[brave sluice]

Removal on artifact is not hard

But when mices and nemesis doing dmg no matter what

Yeah they're not broken

[unique elm]

Yeah and where is this good main deckable artifact removal you speak of?

And you still have to deal with the token

And if it's Izzet on the play, there's a good chance your artifact removal gets pierced

[brave sluice]

Suplex?

[unique elm]

[brave sluice]

Bounce exist for a reason

[unique elm]

Sorcery speed

if you're main decking it, oh nonono

[brave sluice]

Doesnt matter still good for mono red and izzet

Artifact removal also exile nemesis or mice

[unique elm]

But we have abrade

that it's better

and it's still not main deckable

and worst of all, it's red

[brave sluice]

Abrade dont exile like suplex

[unique elm]

wtf do you do as other colors?

[brave sluice]

You're dead if mice or nemesis dies

[unique elm]

Picture this

its turn 2

you spend your mana suplexing their cutter

they're left with their one drop still

and 3 mana open

You're fucked already

And it's izzet/mono red

chances are they'll just out draw you

If they want to shake up the meta in a meaningful way

they need to ban a cutter, heartfire, monstrous rage

and a card from the omni deck

But knowing WOTC, they just say 'teehee' wait for the amazing shake up EOE is gonna bring'

[brave sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/heres-your-drink-norman-reedus-sam-porter-bridges-death-stranding-hideo-kojima-gif-20101148

[brave sluice]

Hehe surely vehicles gonna fix the meta

[unique elm]

Spacecrafts will fix everything that's wrong with vehicles

[sacred adder]

I think monstrous, cori and stock up go

[brave sluice]

Starcraft exp came earlier than expected

[brave sluice]

Bullying Swamp players in standard casual games

[deft lake]

https://tenor.com/view/gosling-rain-blade-runner-cry-gif-27556477

[wanton plume]

[brave sluice]

Better? I changed it sorry

[wanton plume]

I'm playing, it's the magic channel so I assume we all get the context

[brave sluice]

xdd

https://www.reddit.com/r/spikes/s/rvHHokWBlW

[unique elm]

One gigachad really went with a Jund list

[brave sluice]

Im gonna do a spicy Orzhov deck just exile gravyard

Or Mardu

Gotta love graveyard mill and play cheap creatures

Im not salty :)

[sacred adder]

cracking mtga packs

for what its worth idk

prob nothing

but ur welcome to watch

i aimt played arena in a decade

@brave sluice @oak hazel

whtas considedred a lot of packs in mtga?

is this?

[brave sluice]

Those are packs yes but only gives 8 each pack sadly

Mythic packs exist but not damn worth

[sacred adder]

so I just farm these with logins?

what do people do in mtga

just farm draft or smth?

or actually play constructed standard with the #1 meta decks every time?

[brave sluice]

Play normal games to do your dailies and stack up gold

Some ppl just play and have endless of gold/gems and do nothing with them

[sacred adder]

but like

just play and lose vs strong decks?

[brave sluice]

Pretty much but you can play

Posting soon give me some mins

[brave sluice]

There is a event name

Ppl cant make decks here and you will play against other with same decks or 1 of the 8 decks

Can easily do dailies

[brave sluice]

Oh shit I remember buying this last year when I was into lands

[sacred adder]

Arcane aerialist deck op

[oak hazel]

make my favorite arena deck

[[simulacrum synthesizer]]

[teal bluff]

https://scryfall.com/card/big/6/simulacrum-synthesizer

Simulacrum Synthesizer <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Artifact
When this artifact enters, scry 2.
Whenever another artifact you control with mana value 3 or greater enters, create a 0/0 colorless Construct artifact creature token with "This token gets +1/+1 for each artifact you control."

[sacred adder]

Honestly

Fuck red

It shouldn't be in the game

[sacred adder]

yo @oak hazel @brave sluice

does this queue me?

or is it like

just to get cards

[brave sluice]

It will que you but dont know what happens if you lose

Oh you get the deck huh

[woven kestrel]

broooo sick

might have to download the mtg client agane

[unique elm]

jump in events are fun af

[sacred adder]

Can i edit the decks or just play as is?

[unique elm]

It's a sealed where everyone gets the same packs pretty much

it'll give you exactly 40 cards for you to play

https://youtu.be/UPfBU-2IfUI

@brave sluice

[brave sluice]

Kefka is cool

Love when ppl play the card in mtga

[unique elm]

And it won the collector's FF box

[brave sluice]

Let's do it with Play Booster

@unique elm btw I changed my mind over Vivi

in standard

It's broken ass card

Gonna be fair I want that card to get banned

[sacred adder]

I fucking love sealed

High key tempted to concede to do another for more cards

Since i got 5 jump in tickets

[unique elm]

[woven kestrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5FoKImUjks

[brave sluice]

@sacred adder

50 coins for 550

What a steal

[sacred adder]

nowaying

a STEAL

[deft lake]

i'm about to drop my pulls

[sacred adder]

Yo

What should i be using my mtga gold on?

@brave sluice @unique elm @oak hazel

[unique elm]

If you enjoy and are good at it: draft

else just crack some packs

[sacred adder]

Whats the cutoff to profit from draft

I enjoy it but probably suck

[unique elm]

You'll need at least 60% WR

[violet cloak]

[brave sluice]

WHY DID HE SURRENDER

[deft lake]

vivi deck

[brave sluice]

Ban on monday xdd

[deft lake]

how are booster box prices still going up

[unique elm]

[oak hazel]

holy shit

please

I wanna build a sliver deck so bad

is it bad i love tribal so much

idgaf about combo or mill or control i just want a bunch of synergistic monsters

[unique elm]

No

Tribal is love, tribal is life

Goblins, humans, zombies, clerics

Except Merfolk, fuck the fish ppl

🖕

[oak hazel]

i’m gonna build my winota deck soon

it’s gonna be so cancer

[unique elm]

[oak hazel]

also fuck you merfolk is so fun

hakbal is just aids to play in paper

let me explore my 40 merfolks real quick

[unique elm]

It's the lamest tribe

sorry

You should build an angel or dragon decks

those are cool

Wait, you have a Walls deck right?

[oak hazel]

i kinda wanna do myrs

[unique elm]

Build a treefolk or spider commander deck

[oak hazel]

i do, my arcades deck is my lower power deck but it’s still at least a 3

[unique elm]

[oak hazel]

i think my next decks are gonna winota, eluge and then either urtet or this dude

[unique elm]

Cool card

[oak hazel]

it can become like a 250/250 so fast

[brave sluice]

https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgfinance/s/mNnXBbbLfn

[unique elm]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025

[oak hazel]

holy shit

this is fucking huuuuugw

[sacred adder]

extremely predictable

[oak hazel]

hopeless nightmare is the biggest one imo aside from the obvious cori

Pixie dead

omni dead

[unique elm]

This Town aint big enough was the biggest surprise to me

Those aren't completely dead yet

Yuna is a thing now

[oak hazel]

keep in mind I havent played arena since FF dropped

[unique elm]

Didn't miss much

You were either get rolled over by RDW Or Izzet

pre or after FF

[brave sluice]

Omni dead?

Not really

Let's not forget Yuna that can bring back Omni

[unique elm]

there's a couple reanimation spells at 5 mana aswell

which from the what they said, they're fine with

[sacred adder]

yo for real

traveling chocobo

is too fucking good

I been playing this ff jumpstart event

and its just been so much fun

I asked lacari to try MTGA

but my chances I bet are close to a fat 0

[unique elm]

Man

Lacari playing MTG would be peak content

[sacred adder]

for REAL

i take back all bad things ive said about mtga

i was ignorant

its quite fun

the balanced premade events are quit egood

[unique elm]

Imagine Lacari commander night with Soda and the other homies

[sacred adder]

@verbal wedge notice us

🥺

[oak hazel]

stop telling me about yuna i’ve never even read the card

but if she enables omni i don’t fuck w her

unironically these bans make my simulacrum deck S tier

pixie and mice and cori were the hardest to deal with

also lacari would 100% be a gruul player

[unique elm]

[[Yuna, Grand Summoner]]

[teal bluff]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/8/yuna-grand-summoner

Yuna, Grand Summoner <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Cleric
Grand Summon — : Add one mana of any color. When you next cast a creature spell this turn, that creature enters with two additional +1/+1 counters on it.
Whenever another permanent you control is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, if it had one or more counters on it, you may put that number of +1/+1 counters on target creature.
1/5

[unique elm]

ops wrong one

[[Yuna, Hope of Spira]]

[teal bluff]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/250/yuna-hope-of-spira

Yuna, Hope of Spira <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Cleric
During your turn, Yuna and enchantment creatures you control have trample, lifelink, and ward .
At the beginning of your end step, return up to one target enchantment card from your graveyard to the battlefield with a finality counter on it. (If a permanent with a finality counter on it would be put into a graveyard from the battlefield, exile it instead.)
3/5

[oak hazel]

oh that shit is stupid

the red green delirium deck is gonna be really good now

[sacred adder]

[[traveling chocobo]]

[teal bluff]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/210/traveling-chocobo

Traveling Chocobo <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Bird
You may look at the top card of your library any time.
You may play lands and cast Bird spells from the top of your library.
If a land or Bird you control entering the battlefield causes a triggered ability of a permanent you control to trigger, that ability triggers an additional time.
3/2

[brave sluice]

Just throw all overlords and bring them back

@unique elm

Looks like I sold my 3 cutters

[oak hazel]

yeah it’s just new zur

[brave sluice]

Yeah

@oak hazel do you wanna know how much I bought my cori cutters for?

[oak hazel]

it was cheap right

now ya get to sell them at the same price

[brave sluice]

2 bucks each

Before they went up fast

[deft lake]

@brave sluice where do you play with real cards, LGS?

Or do you use like online cam based platform like spell table or something

[oak hazel]

they will be $1 in no time

[unique elm]

Don't think they'll drop that hard

They're playable on modern, pioneer and whatever still

[unique elm]

[brave sluice]

I play next town to me

I did get a few msg HEY FIR HAHAHA Have fun changing deck xdd

@deft lake do you play LGS or online?

[deft lake]

I've only ever played on Arena

[deft lake]

is box price gonna go down

if it goes to like 100-120 maybe its nice...

[violet cloak]

proxies arrived today

[brave sluice]

Oh man

That is nice card

LOOK AT THOSE LEGS

[violet cloak]

[unique elm]

HUGE

W

[deft lake]

HOOOLY

what the fuck

[violet cloak]

There's more but the some of them are NSFW

[deft lake]

i've seen some interesting ones

like clodu with giant tits

and tifa with futa cocks

[deft lake]

I wonder how you can check if a card is authentic

[violet cloak]

It's a proxy but it feels just like mtg card but it doesn't have the mtg back.

[deft lake]

oh then what's at the back

[oak hazel]

rip it in half

and look at the line

authentic cards have a blue/gray line

[violet cloak]

It's logo and designed by the person that made the proxy it's jpeg cupcake

[deft lake]

like if you order a card from ebay

who you know its real

[oak hazel]

i mean there’s no way to tell

[violet cloak]

Well I don't order singles or graded cards on ebay.

[oak hazel]

if ur buying cards that expensive get them from tcg player or lgs

so u have recourse

[violet cloak]

I kinda expect a scam at that point

[deft lake]

gg

oh they have this shit

[violet cloak]

I got several alt proxy of ystola and I have the original card.

But I also got several other cards In a bundle of 50 for like $65 and $70 after tax

[wanton plume]

Erm

Her titty is out and her tail is a buttplug LMAO

[violet cloak]

[unique elm]

god bless the artistic vision of some ppl

[brave sluice]

I fucking love standard coming into the bar "only mono black"

[unique elm]

Been watching crokeyz play this morning

so far been seeing a lot of colorless artifacts into ugin and golgari roots so far

[brave sluice]

Turn 1 Duress

YIPPIE

Sorry im not salty

[unique elm]

Fir and getting triggered over discard spells

name a more iconic duo

[brave sluice]

MODS Toffol is bullying me

[unique elm]

btw

Rumours we'll be returning to Strixhaven soonish

Prepare your pockets for the Harry Potter cards

[brave sluice]

I think I need to change my Tifa to Y'shtola

[sacred adder]

LOL

look at this board

[brave sluice]

@unique elm

Standard suck dick

I fucking hate Wizard for not banning Omni

[sacred adder]

well

omni for 10 better than omni for 4 + some counters and its a flying spirit

[unique elm]

I mean, it's 5 mana

I think it's fair

Unless it's a UGW deck

[brave sluice]

It's 5 mana yes

@unique elm it's time to make my graveyard hate list

[unique elm]

Just play Vivi dude

Mainboard agatha's

[brave sluice]

True

Getting that IRL tho

Aware

[sacred adder]

@everyone I have an important announcement

we unboxed today at work for next league

and got 3 vivis

none were mine

🤡

[brave sluice]

FUCK

[oak hazel]

[brave sluice]

I WANT THAT

[oak hazel]

get fucked

[sacred adder]

i got a foil cloud tho and some other good shit

[violet cloak]

😡
i still haven't got mine

[sacred adder]

we deckbuild tonight

[brave sluice]

Nox I'm happy for you have a good summer

[sacred adder]

I'll send a card list

[oak hazel]

i got mine in foil

[sacred adder]

my fucking colleague

pulled the blue red ultimecia

shantoto

and a vivi

on 6 packs

[oak hazel]

he’s winning btw

[violet cloak]

😡

[sacred adder]

so izzet cancer

fr

[brave sluice]

I drafted yesterday the guy next to me got vivi

What do I get

NOTHING

[oak hazel]

how r u liking the landfall tifa @sacred adder

[brave sluice]

Agree

[oak hazel]

that shit looks fun

[brave sluice]

Landfall is so good

[sacred adder]

apparently its one of the riskiest things to chase

[brave sluice]

But when you get the combo it's time to surrender

I went green yesterday

It was risky

[oak hazel]

as much as i love blue white artifacts every game is like 5 minutes

[brave sluice]

Rakdos in ff is fun

[sacred adder]

ok heres my pool

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/my-ff-limited-pool/?cb=1751500338

y'all welcome to clone it

and suggest some builds

[wanton plume]

i've never seen or have been suggested this site before

have you tried moxfield?

[sacred adder]

Yea i have a moxfield acct too

I just like this sites editor

[deft lake]

you got a cloud nice

[sacred adder]

Ur welcome to send a moxfield back

Should be able to copy paste

[sacred adder]

I gotta say

For 21 canadian Buckaroos

Its a nice draw

Thanks workplace

[sacred adder]

Yo @lime sequoia

Chatgpt is ass at deckbuilding and misunderstands colors

I believe that is a true test of ai proficiency

Understanding cmc curves, synergies

Do you got ideas?

[lime sequoia]

Idk what those things are exactly

But what matters is your prompt

Really depends on what that looks like

The lowest hanging fruits would be to give it an example output and to give it rules in a system prompt

You could also try different models

If you have a fat rulebook bigger than the average context window try Gemini

[oak hazel]

i’ve plugged a few of my decks into chatgpt and asked for cuts and additions and they are always mid

[wanton plume]

eventually AI will improve lol

[oak hazel]

it told me to cut [[coruscation mage]] from my ghyrson deck

[teal bluff]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/131/coruscation-mage

Coruscation Mage <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Otter Wizard
Offspring (You may pay an additional as you cast this spell. If you do, when this creature enters, create a 1/1 token copy of it.)
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this creature deals 1 damage to each opponent.
2/2

[wanton plume]

are you adding vivi to that deck?

or maybe switch commanders

[deft lake]

FF card prices are dropping

[oak hazel]

would never change commander. but yeah he’s already in it. same with fire magic

completely different play style

[brave sluice]

Okay guys

I maybe ordering too much

@oak hazel help me

[brave sluice]

Go boros

Holy fuck

[deft lake]

is that like 40 usd

[brave sluice]

Weapon boros

[brave sluice]

Yeah

Or maybe 35 bucks

[oak hazel]

that’s what I was thinking, lightning boris

boros

[brave sluice]

Yeah cloud to find equipment

[lime sequoia]

Dude

What are colors

[sacred adder]

Yea i was also gravitating towards boros weapons

but I wanted a second opinion

[sacred adder]

idk man you might have to study mtg

the game for game designers

[lime sequoia]

How long would it take

So arena?

[deft lake]

what uh

cardsleeves u guys buy

dragon shield kmc katana ultrapro

or wtv

[sacred adder]

Dragon shield

No print

[sacred adder]

Not long at all if you grasp basic game concepts and can read

All the text is written on the card you just have to understand how they interact at what times

Its an english comprehension game

Learning all cards by heart useless in practice, think theres something like 100k+ unique cards

But imo its proven a challenge when i ask chat bots

Because theres complex rulings and exception cases, legality, specific cards played at specific split times i.e between two lines of text written on another card at instant speed

And an LLM to advise well would need to fully understand all cards and combos and where and when they fit in to actually deliver the right advice

Ive had some limited success on a small pool of like 40 cards

[lime sequoia]

What is the use case for llm

Why the interest

[sacred adder]

Deckbuilding

Explaining rulings

And synergies

And specific questions that would need extensive research or knowledge

Like finding cards you can't name that would accomplish specific nameable things, in specific formats, or from specific/excluded editions

[lime sequoia]

I see

Hm I’m reading someone else’s work on this rn

https://gilesstrong.github.io/website/ai/llms/nlp/fun/2025/02/17/Making-Magic.html#the-fundamentals

Prob best to wait for TLDR

This guy is going to be disappointed

He is trying to do a one shot prompt

Looks like

[brave sluice]

I'm using dragon shield but about to try Katana out

[lime sequoia]

Basically the approach this person uses for deck building has a lot of limitations. If they tried again they would take an agentic approach

[sacred adder]

You should try the game bundle yaaaay

[lime sequoia]

Arena?

I’m on a streak of not finishing games I buy so this is intriguing

TLDR this person also thought ai was mid for mtg decks

[sacred adder]

Its free and has no end point, no need to finish it

[unique elm]

[unique elm]

You got some banger Black cards, so you gotta play Black for sure

shame your green is so scuffed

Sultai would be crazy good

[sacred adder]

MAN

but look at the boros

[unique elm]

yeah, you can play equipment aswell

but if it were me, I'd go with black/blue

splashing white for a couple cards

[oak hazel]

it’s def red white equipment angle

you have so much support for it

[sacred adder]

havent had a chance to look into it very much, list a few pls

[unique elm]

he has all the banger black commons and uncommons tho

and some of his equipment is kinda meh, like red mage's rapier

Maybe going Mardu is the way, Dark Knight Greatsword is good, same with Black Mage's Rod

[sacred adder]

ok but its limited

its like criminal to not run lightning

[unique elm]

You got world map and stuff

you can splash either red or white for her

[sacred adder]

eh idk man

one fixer?

I dont feel so confident about splashing a color with a single fixer

[sacred adder]

how does this work

[wanton plume]

you punch someone in the face with this card, then the person that got hit takes control of the card

then they can use kain to attack you or anyone else and then they have to pass control of it to the person he dealt combat damage to

[sacred adder]

so ur kinda spreading the benefits?

seems ass

[wanton plume]

[[!slicer]]

[teal bluff]

Multiple cards match “slicer”, can you be more specific?

[wanton plume]

[[!slicer hired muscle]]

[teal bluff]

https://scryfall.com/card/bot/6/slicer-hired-muscle-slicer-high-speed-antagonist

Slicer, Hired Muscle // Slicer, High-Speed Antagonist

[wanton plume]

This guy does it better lol

[brave sluice]

@unique elm Gonna be serious I cant wait for rotation im so fucking tired of some cards

[unique elm]

You can do some stupid shit with it

[deft lake]

fuck should i hop back on arena and do the FF battle pass before its joever

[unique elm]

it's decent enough

[unique elm]

I don't think this rotation gets rid of too many annoyances

The true refresher for is the 2027 rota

[sacred adder]

do jump in event

its giga fun

[deft lake]

:caitt

[sacred adder]

its easy just chocobo + wild or chocobo + white

and win

[deft lake]

yes habro milk me

i am milked

[sacred adder]

get milkt son

[sacred adder]

so @lime sequoia

[sacred adder]

whats the verdict

[brave sluice]

White control?

It's damn powerful right now

[unique elm]

[lime sequoia]

Verdict on LLMs?

[sacred adder]

verdict on learning MTG

and being one of us demons

[brave sluice]

Shhh I'm mad how good cards they have

[unique elm]

Let white have a spot in the sun

it was shit for so long

[lime sequoia]

Maybe

[deft lake]

this hobby is so dumb man

i'm so dumb

why can't cardboards be like 100 bucks max

[brave sluice]

I gonna say it

Izzet is shit

White is just too strong

[sacred adder]

I saw something about gruul mice

With paw patch patrol abd overprotect

This

https://mtgrocks.com/aggressive-mtg-mouse-package-returns-after-strong-results/

[brave sluice]

Not broken :)

[wanton plume]

Blue is just op

[unique elm]

Imagine being this wrong

smh

[brave sluice]

I'm not wrong

Just you wait

Give it a week Bedge

[sacred adder]

@lime sequoia

your bitchass wanna learn some mtg later?

I can teach for memes

[sacred adder]

[unique elm]

Isn't it kind shit?

[lime sequoia]

Oh sure when later

It’s America’s day off

[sacred adder]

why?

its in a block where you put down big stations that cant do shit for several turns and that it can tap

[deft lake]

I'm trying out both of them

[sacred adder]

it also synergizes survivor

[deft lake]

left is katana

[sacred adder]

Not exceptionnal, but its a damn good fixer if your board allows it

imo its better than this, and its at common grade:

[unique elm]

It's really bad turn 1, and turn 2 you gotta tap something else just so it can survive

[sacred adder]

its not a turn 1 card

[unique elm]

Limited powerhouse tho

[sacred adder]

but if this is your only land turn 1 you lost already anyways

mid game fixer

when you start swinging gold cards

that you get down tapping useless shit like spaceships before they open up

[unique elm]

Seems alright for limited

Specially if powerstones make a comeback

[sacred adder]

i love limited

[sacred adder]

idk bootup and do tutorial?

and then we can play some matchups for memes later

with balanced decks

[lime sequoia]

Mtg arena

Ok

[sacred adder]

yea

[unique elm]

@brave sluice

[deft lake]

Katana has a harder back sleeve, DS seems more soft

but i like the dual matte black/peach

[unique elm]

https://tenor.com/view/sardaukar-gif-23772055

[lime sequoia]

ok i can make an ai generated deck now

erm

how can i see other decks i cloned lol

[sacred adder]

In mtg?

[lime sequoia]

in arena yeah

can see live if you want

[sacred adder]

Hm idr + im not at pc

[lime sequoia]

no prob

[sacred adder]

Calling mom but ill.come hang in a bit

Ask these other idiots they play all day

[lime sequoia]

ok all good no rush

ok i see

ui is not what i expected

[brave sluice]

IM FUCKING QUITTING

[dry narwhal]

Yo how's the final fantasy collab with this game?

Does each protag have their own archetype or did they group them to work in the same deck?

[brave sluice]

@unique elm you should play some standard :)

[unique elm]

They made a couple preconstructed decks themed around some of the FF cards

But you're free to use the cards as you see fit

[brave sluice]

More I play more I hate standard for every game

[unique elm]

Too late to catch up now without spending money

[sacred adder]

https://scryfall.com/sets/fin

[brave sluice]

mtga?

[unique elm]

Yeah

Don't really wanna grind the wildcards for a standard deck while playing a pauper rdw

[brave sluice]

I mean you could log in every 3 days

Do the 3 quest and wait 3 days

Or do 3 wins every day for 450 coins

They have other playable mods where you're playing against same deck

[deft lake]

Is FF event over

Or 2 more months entail eoe

[sacred adder]

Free packs have so much of those wildcards

You can craft a meta deck out of dailies if thats what you like

[deft lake]

got kotr

:omgbruh

[sacred adder]

U swiping