wut da act 3 stuff
#Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
indigo dove
nimble sky
Just don't worry if you're missing some feet for mococo because u can always get them later if you decided u want him on the team
indigo dove
stable spear
im still on act 1
stable spear
parrying takes a while 🥲
nimble sky
I haven't fucked around with burn build cause enemies die too fast lol
buoyant lynx
what are are you in abe
indigo dove
||there are some new mobs that I saw at the bottom section of the map, gotta farm their abilities||
buoyant lynx
I'm also glad they weren't stupid and gave boss abilities to him
having to use him on bosses would be annoying af
raven charm
they should just make him get the skills even if he's not in the team
nimble sky
what are are you in abe
I finished the game a week ago, I just don't find burn builds good xd. I had fun building for base attack more
|| Base attack builds are lowkey broken for support characters ||
raven charm
I finished the game a week ago, I just don't find burn builds good xd. I had fun...
||verso has a burn basic atk build ||
nimble sky
This was my weapon of choice until I decided to make him my main dps 
amber sedge
you hit it so early though that it becomes not worth so fast
also yeah it's rly just incredinly easy to break the game
you literally just equip anything that says "increases dmg" and then work towards fulfilling the requirements
like being sub 10% hp or having shields etc lol
and then just like a bunch of other rpgs you just abuse buffs and debuffs on top of that
you're done
brisk apex
I'm also glad they weren't stupid and gave boss abilities to him
Technically they did
buoyant lynx
||looks like the titty is the only one?||
brisk apex
||Dualliste||
buoyant lynx
you fight him multiple times
amber sedge
there's other bosses too
brisk apex
You don't count him as a boss for that reason? Lol
amber sedge
iirc ||lampmaster for example||
brisk apex
Still a boss
brisk apex
Oh.
amber sedge
it's a random ass name completely irrelevant from anything in the story... or well anything rly
bro is just there to be there
he's just having fun
amber sedge
||i skipped him first time 
||
buoyant lynx
i meant one and done fights though i should have worded it better i guess
amber sedge
how the fuck was i supposed to know bro i just saw i did no dmg
amber sedge
act 2 spoiler ||but that means i got to come back with monoco for him though so it all worked out||
hollow sail
Basic attack ||man verso fucks in act 2 with the duellist weapon, gonna be so sad when I have to change build when damage cap is off later||
amber sedge
we need those ||esquie|| plushies though i'll buy two 
hollow sail
Act 2 ||I love Monoco, covering every element providing buff/defenceless (except burn for some reason). Not sure how good he will be in act 3 but good to have a decent non human character||
buoyant lynx
we need those ||esquie|| plushies though i'll buy two <a:LETSGO:1155297321773437...
No you won't I'm buying all of them
amber sedge
No you won't I'm buying all of them
i'll be closer to them for direct access 
stoic grove
Act 2 ||I love Monoco, covering every element providing buff/defenceless (except...
||he does have moves for every effect, just might not of killed the mob for the skill||
buoyant lynx
i'll be closer to them for direct access <:ReallyMad:1080459951752892457>
I have money worth actual money
amber sedge
wtf my euros are real money
buoyant lynx
Fake monopoly money
amber sedge
worth more than a dollar though
nimble sky
Based youtube voters
brisk apex
Basic attack ||man verso fucks in act 2 with the duellist weapon, gonna be so sa...
Yeah, I used to think that was his best weapon but really, its just ||cheater from wish||
I have multiple lvl 33 weapons for him. Unlike everyone else who, imo, has one clearly best weapon
buoyant lynx
yes
indigo dove
great this should work with powerful revive then
brisk apex
||soda thinks gustave is coming back||
It would be very anime if they did. However, I'm glad they didn't pull that
Reminds me of one of my top 5s
brisk apex
@buoyant lynx watched me get fucked by ||grand ballet several times||
Gotta listen to the sound cues
buoyant lynx
yeah grand ballet is fucking WILD
buoyant lynx
Don't worry if you think that's bad
:unaware:
||soda with 92 burns on paintress||
damage cap
indigo dove
buoyant lynx
raven charm
You're not lying, I think even Quin would come up with more dps than this Soda build
buoyant lynx
You're not lying, I think even Quin would come up with more dps than this Soda b...
dude can't even make use of what he gets from the boss
not hitting damage cap anyways 
daring portal
daring portal
🗣️ i didnt get the bad ending
chat jebait
also did the same thing on forsen stream
indigo dove
dang
wide pagoda
indigo dove
🤨
torpid scaffold
I almost ||forfeited on the jumping stone guy||
indigo dove
using sciel's 1 hit skill is frustrating
daring portal
10k is the damage limit?
yes 
torpid scaffold
Started to test limit and closed eyes parry
||Didnt know u that u dont have to kill him||
wide pagoda
wide pagoda
ater act 2
wide pagoda
stoic grove
Just parry everything don't need more damage
amber sedge
brisk apex
Is there a auto death picto?
Yes, actually
indigo dove
Thank you kind helper 
amber sedge
it's the easiest way to get a bunch of your shit started
wide pagoda
buoyant lynx
cringe
amber sedge
amber sedge
let's get wet
wide pagoda
monoco is awesome
amber sedge
i mean you're kinda helping her argument here
buoyant lynx
amber sedge
it's kinda sad that i guess late act 3 relationship spoilers ||the gestrals essentially losing most of their memories on reincarnation and the whole "looks the same, acts the same, is not the same" is basically just verso's way of painting how they just get a new family dog when the old one dies|| 
wide pagoda
buoyant lynx
"truth be told i don't think im gonna be hitting for that much that often
soda talking about his new found power
amber sedge
"truth be told i don't think im gonna be hitting for that much that often
i mean you still get (act 3 move) ||stendahl shortly after and even after nerfs it's still busted||
buoyant lynx
he won't use it
he literally just went over them and said "phantom strike i think is the only ability i'll even consider"
if you don't see the %'s you don't know how good that one really is
amber sedge
oh so it's cuz he doesn't even wanna bother trying it and not cuz chat was probably filled with "that move is so busted" comments?
buoyant lynx
He's doing OST build so we can hear every fucking note of the OST
he's purposefully not gonna do what chat tells him
buoyant lynx
i doubt he does that honestly
amber sedge
if he's even gonna do all that stuff, fucking supertf fraud essentially didn't do any sidestuff in the last act
which is weird cuz ,journals aside, that's basically the only sidestuff that actually has pretty important lore and whatnot
amber sedge
||he still thinks gustave is coming back||
late, laaaaate game spoilers ||i mean technically he's right to some extent
||
daring portal
lavish tangle
|| alicia painted mai-ELL and wanted verso who was painted by her mother made or wanted verso and sciel to have sex || this hurts my brain more then it should
buoyant lynx
Because you're thinking too much about it
||They only paint the creature. They do not control it||
||The creatures do whatever they want, which is why the painted verso goes against what his mom wanted||
||the paintress did not paint sciel and verso to fuck||
amber sedge
late game lore and spoilers ||well technically they do have some control over it, aline painted verso specifically as the ideal son she remembered, which is exactly why he goes against her and tries to save her. similarly clea can also just paint over others, which she did to painted clea since she just didn't like her and forced her to make nevrons||
||but yeah you are correct in that most of them are just their own person really and are far divorced from any painter specific quirks||
buoyant lynx
||soda died to the underwater rock francois fight||
i didn't even know it was possible
amber sedge
||soda died to the underwater rock francois fight||
||bro i died to him too multiple times it was like my second time using verso after the monoco relation fight ||
buoyant lynx
||i literally just one shot him with steeled strike lmao||
i honestly thought it was a joke fight
amber sedge
i had the 2 default skills, 3 random pictos, 0 luminas and obviously no extra points in him
buoyant lynx
deserved for being a man hater
amber sedge
wdym i always had the goat in my squad ||monoco ||
amber sedge
that's fucked up 
amber sedge
||gestral lives are real human lives to me bucko ||
idek why i spoilered that tbh, i guess it's just a habit by now
amber sedge
well guess they do now then
brisk apex
||NG+ Golgra down w/ Gustave||
I was not parrying her 2nd phase
Fuck that.
Bitch took me over an hour
Doesn't help that Gustave's kit is ass. 
brisk apex
Yeah, I love his voice lines.
I didn't even have to do this for 100%
I just wanted the challenge
amber sedge
raven charm
||NG+ Golgra down w/ Gustave||
||does she give a different weapon for Gustave or same as Verso?||
amber sedge
i said that in ng but i gave up on that pretty fast lmao
brisk apex
||does she give a different weapon for Gustave or same as Verso?||
I got no weapons at all, just upgrade materials
raven charm
I got no weapons at all, just upgrade materials
||same as verso then, you didn't get one because you already have the sword||
brisk apex
I'ma continue the solo Gustave run later
Shield affinity seems like ass and confirms that all boosts are not multiplicative
I took it off and noticed virtually no difference
raven charm
also, noticed you're using ||Simon ||sword, are you getting performance issues? That sword effect has a memory leak, dunno if they fixed it
brisk apex
also, noticed you're using ||Simon ||sword, are you getting performance issues? ...
||I mean, I'm using Gustave now, so no ||
But on NG, I had no issues
Of all weapons, it's hard for me to assess which one is the best for him.
||No matter how fast you can charge up to rank S with free aim, I kinda prefer weapons that just start you in rank S. Preferably bloodam because chevalem prevents you from gaining shields, which have pictos that give you damage for that||
raven charm
Not the strongest but my favorites are ||Contorso ||and ||Corpeso||
brisk apex
||Contorso is just discount Simoso and Corpeso is pretty cracked for burn builds tbh||
raven charm
||Contorso is just discount Simoso and Corpeso is pretty cracked for burn builds...
||ye but Simoso put the extra dmg in the same hit instead of making 2 hits||, so it's lame compared to ||Contorso ||for me
brisk apex
||ye but Simoso put the extra dmg in the same hit instead of making 2 hits||, so...
||You sure? I definitely notice an extra hit on Simoso when I free aim with it||
raven charm
huh
brisk apex
Like I can show you later but I'm pretty sure
raven charm
Oh I remember there was a bug where some lv33 weapons effects don't work, I tested before the fix was made
So that's probably the reason
buoyant lynx
also, noticed you're using ||Simon ||sword, are you getting performance issues? ...
Yeah there's lots of posts of this sword crashing the game
indigo dove
So many gray bars 
buoyant lynx
||asmonbald at renoir manor fight in a2||
brisk apex
That fight was comically easy
Think I avoided every hit despite never seeing the moves before
I also burned him to death pretty quickly
buoyant lynx
||he just got gommaged||
asmon is completely lost
LMAO
||2 vanishes in a row||
buoyant lynx
Nah it's random I've had him open with it it was the only move I couldn't figure out the parry on
And the masks kinda fucked me but they don't do a lot of damage
||even under the monolith I got vanished I just didn't understand when to party at all||
slim loom
at this point in the game nothing survived more than 1 turn for me
soda really made the worst build possible
brisk apex
Making a tank build in a game where you can avoid every move manually is certainly a choice
slim loom
the fact he doesnt use ||verso because he thinks he will leave the party ||
raven charm
||see enemy using a lamp to debuff team and still doesn't try to shot said lamp|| 
literally first thing I did when I saw the guy
brisk apex
||Shooting the lamp is irrelevant, tbh||
ocean perch
Soda found his Achilles tendon
easy boss ?
brisk apex
His moves will one shot either way
raven charm
nah he can tank it without the debuff
raven charm
easy boss ?
solo he's a joke, moveset very easy to parry
buoyant lynx
i also love that he's sticking to this dogshit "dot" lune build
using fire on a fire enemy
brisk apex
Lune best gradient battery tbh
slim loom
his own build doesnt synergize
raven charm
ye since Maelle is tanking he should make low hp build for the other 2
slim loom
monoco doing no damage is something I didnt know its possible
buoyant lynx
i mean even hiks counter is only 10k
my counters immediately after painter power were like 300k
raven charm
because it's tanking pictos combined with him going for defensive stance instead of virtuoso
buoyant lynx
yeah but defensive doesn't lower his damage it just isn't a multiplier
raven charm
Also I just checked here
the sword he's using has the lowest base dmg of all maelle weapons
buoyant lynx
even his monoco is only doing 20k counters
brisk apex
the weapon she starts with is 1k more base dmg
That's consistent with the rest of the game, though. Many weapons with bad passives (or no passives) have higher base dmg
buoyant lynx
like how is that even fucking possible
buoyant lynx
That's consistent with the rest of the game, though. Many weapons with bad passi...
that weapon has atrocious passives
raven charm
That's consistent with the rest of the game, though. Many weapons with bad passi...
not for me, every weapon I liked the passives had high base dmg
brisk apex
that weapon has atrocious passives
I believe you. But there is a general trend
buoyant lynx
I mean I understand his thought process. Sit in defensive. Taunt. Parry > generate ap for your entire team
but there's so many ways of generating ap that it's just a waste
tawdry shard
no
brisk apex
For example. All 3 of these are terrible. But they're the top 3 in base dmg.
indigo dove
brisk apex
but there's so many ways of generating ap that it's just a waste
Shit, Sciel can do this for your whole team in act 1 with less set up
torpid scaffold
Damn bro opened every single spoiler while still in act 1
raven charm
For example. All 3 of these are terrible. But they're the top 3 in base dmg.
don't show the wrench to soda 
he will want to build it because of|| powerless and combo mark with the picto that reduces marked enemy dmg dealt||
buoyant lynx
don't forget 2 hits to remove mark
and i think burn on mark?
INSANE DAMAGE
11k
raven charm
11k
gotta look at the bright side, at least that way we will be able to see all the bullshit ||Simon ||can do
||oh we will not, because of his first team wipe 2nd phase mechanic ||
cancer boss
hollow sail
the sword he's using has the lowest base dmg of all maelle weapons
I'm using this until I get the auto virtuoso weapon
AP battery maelle
brisk apex
I'm using this until I get the auto virtuoso weapon <:OMEGALUL:64177835573732967...
||Have fun with Golgra ||
torpid scaffold
I'm using this until I get the auto virtuoso weapon <:OMEGALUL:64177835573732967...
||U didnt use maelle for the sciel recruit fight didnt u||
buoyant lynx
||Have fun with Golgra <:kek:1092598898490613760> ||
Just parry 4head
brisk apex
The timing is already a bit challenging in phase 1. Phase 2, good luck
raven charm
ye I had to dodge some during last phase
brisk apex
I ain't have time for that so I opted to dodge in phase 2
hollow sail
||U didnt use maelle for the sciel recruit fight didnt u||
||nope i used lune for everything||
||i guess i expected too much not to be screwed by a single decision that nothing in the game even hints to ||
brisk apex
Well, realistically, it's not an important decision
hollow sail
but it's fine it forced me to use other builds and it's pretty fun
brisk apex
There are other viable weapons for her
hollow sail
and yeah it's not super important anyways you can clear with whatever
tawdry shard
@buoyant lynx can you help me build Sciel?
buoyant lynx
buoyant lynx
severe valley
||Gommaged|| his ass 
ocean perch
dark lichen
Bro what is this ||Simon|| fight 
brisk apex
A doozy, that's what it is.
You can either cheese it or do it ethically. I'll consider doing it solo on ng+ without the weapon he gives you ||since it effectively makes you immortal||
dark lichen
Ill learn it
Not looking to ng+
Feels like some Isshin Swordsaint type of shit tho
brisk apex
From the little of it I practiced before just one shotting him, it seemed like I didn't have time to dodge ||because of the secondary hits||
So I'll probably have to parry everything
brisk apex
Not looking to ng+
I didn't have a choice because I killed all the white nevrons on my 1st playthrough and I want to 100% the game
dark lichen
Pretty sure you have to pre emptive parry and muscle memory the patterns
buoyant lynx
ongbal has a parry only kill on him
god only knows how long it took to practice that shit lol
dark lichen
Im looking to do the same
buoyant lynx
looking forward to the "no damage" runs
brisk apex
What I'm saying is that "parry only" is probably the only way? Like I said, ||when I dodged the first hit, it didn't seem like I had time to dodge the folllow up||
dark lichen
He's definitly 3 steps above anything else in the game
brisk apex
dark lichen
||painted love|| doesnt come close
brisk apex
||painted love|| doesnt come close
||Painted Love is just Curator & Paintress combined. They share the same hp bar so you don't need to focus both and from what I could tell, they had no new moves||
Or if they do, I never saw 'em
hoary plover
hollow sail
||bruh this chromatic gault boss is so fucking annoying lol|| (side boss)
And no I didn't parry a thing, I have maelle dodge tank the whole thing
brittle vortex
<:WAJAJA:1237922919284215829>
the ||drunk expidition and the naked expidition|| are my fav logs
buoyant lynx
soda is about to get to the final boss
if anyone wants to see OST build
he's still using that dogshit maelle weapon
brittle vortex
its so bad
severe lance
amber sedge
first ever footage of someone struggling in act 3 final area? 
severe lance
4K ELEMENTAL GENSIS
I actually do more than that at early act 2, aren't you supposed to be doing millions by the end ??
buoyant lynx
yes but soda doesn't understand mechanics
severe lance
no vtuber gf to carry him
ocean perch
amber sedge
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdzioMFMMCo||
late game boss spoiler ||someday some absolute sicko is gonna do it without painted power and it's gonna be like a 6 hour video||
ocean perch
well thing is those ppl can use nexus mod without ppl knowing aswell
so they can parry more easy
buoyant lynx
you'd be able to spot it pretty easily
ocean perch
really ?
buoyant lynx
the expert parry timing is increidbly small
ocean perch
buoyant lynx
especially since you can slowdown youtube videos
amber sedge
some random guy in the comments mentioned that cheat engine's parry just makes it so the parry timing is always active
buoyant lynx
people would be able to see pretty easily that they're cheating
ocean perch
ye u can technically make some program no that parry for u is that possible ?
amber sedge
no clue if he's right or not, and it is just a random fella on youtube, but if that is the case then it is obviously easy to spot if the video has inputs displayed
buoyant lynx
ye u can technically make some program no that parry for u is that possible ?
like to parry at the correct timing?
ocean perch
yes
buoyant lynx
i mean probably but it would take a shitload of work
ocean perch
but it would need to calculate a lot of different combinations
buoyant lynx
compared to just making parry always on
or just flat out making the parry window bigger
ocean perch
like im not saying these ppl not doing it manually but i think its possible to cheat like that
buoyant lynx
I mean ongbal did it a week ago
these dudes posting videos on youtubes make money from the shit
so they sit there all day practicing it
ocean perch
btw next time standfall gonna do next game they gonna be bigger for sure i bet a lot of ppl want to work for them after finishing game
amber sedge
well that's also assuming they want to go bigger
some devs like to stay smaller sized even after success
because then they get to keep the "tight knit community" feel instead of making it too corporate
ocean perch
nah they want to get bigger but propably going to be very picky
there isnt much downside being bigger tbh if they pick proper ppl
amber sedge
and yet some developers still stay indie or small scale after success
you never know what they want to do unless they explicitly state it
amber sedge
if it's a successful game they can realistically find further funding and investments quite easily, but sometimes they just want to stay small scale
hollow knight is a good example of that
you don't think team cherry could've become much bigger after hollow knight's success and with the hype of the next one?
ocean perch
but i think most of first succes gets bigger no ? even if its only by 10
amber sedge
sure most probably want to become bigger and earn more money, but that still doesn't apply to all of them
but just making bigger games by bigger studios is not something all studios want
but if they supposedly would want to create bigger games, then yes they will very likely hire more people too to support that
ocean perch
i think even if standfall had 300 ppl that still not gonna be corpo because its still unknown studio where ubisoft and other big ones studios where ppl cant really change much if leaders on top say no
amber sedge
i don't think either of us have any idea of what their studio workplace is like to really concretely say one way or the other what they would be like, especially when they become 10 times as big as before
ocean perch
but ye what they did with 30 and if they had 100 ppl lol
amber sedge
i honestly like the length and content of the game as is, maybe i would've wished for a bit more interaction between party members (aka not (character name) ||verso|| with party members) but otherwise i'm rly happy about the package
ocean perch
well if they still gonna stay to clair obscure they dont really need to expand i think but if they try some brand new game
maybe
buoyant lynx
i honestly like the length and content of the game as is, maybe i would've wishe...
Honestly my favorite part is that they DID include stories and wrapping things up with extra characters but they ddin't force you to go through it all first
they could hvae easily put the final boss BEHIND all that other shit and made you go through it to get 50+ hour game
ocean perch
i think they balanced lenght of game well
amber sedge
yeah i have no issues at all with the length or content of the game
not even rly with the pacing either
ocean perch
ye pacing is really good
misty linden
What I'm saying is that "parry only" is probably the only way? Like I said, ||wh...
you can but there is like on very tight sequence on a string of attacks that he does that Im pretty sure you NEED to at least perfect dodge to not get hit
ocean perch
other developers need to take example of how important is few hours of game
and no long tutorials that bores ppl to death before something happen
or just too much yappin
other games have too much yappin before anything important happen on start
also they did good job explaining what actually happen in game because this game would be hella confusing without proper explaining
amber sedge
yeah i think most people seem to have a good understanding of what happened in the game after completing it at least
so props to the devs for that
buoyant lynx
Bro is taking literally 8 turns to kill mobs
this shit is so fucking embarassing
amber sedge
ocean perch
Bro is taking literally 8 turns to kill mobs
who
buoyant lynx
soda
i mean like 8 fucking full rounds of combat
it's actually incredible how dogshit hihs damage is
ocean perch
even ninja playing this
i saw so many ppl play this game who usually almost never stream SP games
ocean perch
it's actually incredible how dogshit hihs damage is
does picto doing dmg over 9999 have on all his chars ?
buoyant lynx
yeah it's super cheap
ocean perch
well u never know some ppl forget to activate it
buoyant lynx
cinema time
misty linden
I shoulda gone to lumiere first before doing all the side content in act 3
||this renoir fight was an absolute joke at a high level lmao||
brisk apex
||this renoir fight was an absolute joke at a high level lmao||
Yeah, I did it at lvl 75
However, I don't mind feeling overpowered
After struggling before that point
The power fantasy is what I'm here for and the game makes you earn it
misty linden
not very fun when the enemy can't fight back and you just steam roll. Where is the challenge at that point?
brisk apex
I welcome a challenge but I do not always require a challenge to feel satisfied.
buoyant lynx
There's no challenge to the fight ever
I went straight there and killed him first try
he has no health
i was like level 54 or something
brisk apex
Doing ng+ as ||solo Verso|| currently strikes a decent balance between feeling super strong while still having challenges against certain bosses
||Like Golgra against Gustave||
However, I can't imagine ng+ is balanced around 1 character having 600 lumina
But we'll see
misty linden
||Like Golgra against Gustave||
||is it possible to beat golgra without gradient counter? Or does she not do that attack when you are low level?||
buoyant lynx
yeah even soda could have just one shot his second phase
2 hits in his twilight dance did 400k
brisk apex
||is it possible to beat golgra without gradient counter? Or does she not do tha...
||She did no gradient attacks when I faced her in act 1||
misty linden
i see
brisk apex
You mean beach #2?
ocean perch
i think so
brisk apex
It took me awhile to understand the timing but that's not the one I hate the most
ocean perch
jumping ones were easy
brisk apex
The logs in the 1st beach are very unforgiving even with Lune's hitbox
Only Up was easy
ocean perch
oh log 1st beach wasnt that hard
amber sedge
i actually liked them all i think
maybe not the ||climbing while dodging the falling rocks|| one that was kinda whatever
misty linden
its hard to walk those logs with a 360 controller with stick drift 
brisk apex
its hard to walk those logs with a 360 controller with stick drift <:KEKL:806712...
I eventually did it with controller. I only swapped to mkb for the falling rocks
The input lag was too significant on controller
brisk apex
Beach 1 is the only log challenge, I'm pretty sure
severe lance
with gestralt throwing dolls
God I hated that shit
I fully did it but i fucking hated it
brisk apex
These mini games were still not as sadistic as the ones in ff x
I know how bad it can get
indigo dove
These mini games were still not as sadistic as the ones in ff x
i did the ping pong mini game and i hated it
misty linden
ff7 rebirth mini games
brisk apex
I've yet to encounter a mini game in rebirth that's made me rage more than ff x chocobo racing
brisk apex
i did the ping pong mini game and i hated it
I agree that this one was challenging, especially the last one. But my original point still stands.
misty linden
I've yet to encounter a mini game in rebirth that's made me rage more than ff x ...
have you done the mini game that does the gambit system from ff12? Its not so bad unless you do the hard mode
brisk apex
have you done the mini game that does the gambit system from ff12? Its not so ba...
I paused my playtime up to the point where I depart for some casino type area? It was right after I got Yuffie and went to Barett's hometown
But I've completed every minigame up to that point, hard mode included.
misty linden
oh its after that then
paper grail
There's no challenge to the fight ever
Glad im doing it right
I saw act 2 and was like lets just go as long as possible beelining story
Till i hit a point where im like lets finish this up
I hope the game is clear on the cutoff to side stuff tho
buoyant lynx
there is no cut off
it loads you back right before the final boss
you can literally walk straight to him first
and then do all the side content
buoyant lynx
you're a little underleveled but you should still be hitting dmg cap
paper grail
Yeah on most chars my build needs work on like monnoco and sciel tho
I fucking hate bros one attack
I literally cant parry the big chroma attack boss does
buoyant lynx
||the orb in the sky?||
paper grail
Yep
buoyant lynx
i found that to be the easiest one
buoyant lynx
||it'll do a mini pulse then the real pulse||
paper grail
||it'll do a mini pulse then the real pulse||
This is whats cooking me
buoyant lynx
||as soon as it starts expanding the second time hit parry||
paper grail
are you using autoshell with more powerful shell?
I aint even been levelling pictos im about to do some side stuff maybe
I literally just ran down the story
buoyant lynx
oh i don't mean the level of them
paper grail
Skipped every mob
buoyant lynx
well you missed a shitload of weapon and picto drops
and free level upgrades
random mobs will upgrade your levels and drop weapons and pictos
paper grail
Ye i noticed that when i got like 13 levels on 1 weapon
Cause i was labbing a bit to beat this boss
But i may be cooked until i actually try
I got so hooked on the main plot i just needed the next cutscene
Cooked myself
I got 1 more try in me after goijg thru all my shit if i die im doing some side shit
Cause monocco is so gimped rn
Cause i didnt get any skills cause of how he works
paper grail
I cooked this fuck || renoir || so bad this time
paper grail
well you missed a shitload of weapon and picto drops
I dont think i used the passive pictos the whole game
Till this moment
And felt so godly
Spent all my lumina and went so ham
I think my gameplay was going so well i forgot luminas completely
Verso is so cracked for me now
Bro doing like 60k
nimble sky
Full completion 
hoary plover
he's still using that dogshit maelle weapon
i seen his gameplay from act 1 he said he wants to make maelle as a tank
hoary plover
the egide ability is good for it
ocean perch
tawdry shard
Guys you think I can play this game on a Steam Deck?
misty linden
¯_(ツ)_/¯
tawdry shard
orchid ibex
sex
gaunt viper
ocean perch
is asmon doing paintress today ?
tawdry shard
Probably
misty linden
💀
lethal topaz
this is fight is fucked
dark lichen
Prime Consort of C
hoary plover
guessing asmon he probably just doing tank build 🥱
misty linden
They kinda just copied artorias from ds1 for this guy.
||artorias the abyss walker. This guy is in a location called abyss. They both use a large sword. Both of them only has one arm to use their weapon too. They also both succumbed to w.e ailment they had and are husks||
lethal topaz
||what ending did u guys choose?||
lethal topaz
i get that
looked at the other ending i didnt get on yt
||they're both extremely sad||
tawdry shard
Atriax can you help!
slim loom
||what ending did u guys choose?||
||only right ending, verso||
buoyant lynx
||they're both extremely sad||
||sure but one of them is letting a person live their real life and ending the suffering of the painted people (specifically verso who is literally begging her to let him go in maelle ending). The whole game is about the closure and finality of death. Verso ending is the only correct one. You have to move on and move forward not spend the rest of your life stuck in that moment||
||forcing painted verso to continue a life he doesn't want because maelle can't move on is fucked up||
lethal topaz
||forcing painted verso to continue a life he doesn't want because maelle can't ...
||yeah thats the ending that i got and i felt fucked 
||
wide pagoda
yeah i feel like ||verso was true ending
because this whole mess started because maelle , she killed the real one.
they used the painting that verso created that held a piece of his soul , the mother fucked me up when she made the verso clone from memories
(made the man immortal in the painting as a " blessing" )
crucial hint came from monoco " he who hides the truth with lies"
but can you really blame verso for knowing the truth even though he knew that he was betraying the party to make ends meet?||
shit was heavy af
lethal topaz
||i think both endings were equally sad, just one did make a lot more sense than the other||
wide pagoda
||both endings were sad
BUT maelle wanted to this man to live out his life after 47 something years being immortal
then the other ending showed the family learning to grief instead of keeping hold of a fucked up memory.||
lethal topaz
||maybe i was just delusional picking maelle, cause i thought she would eventually go back unlike her mom. the closer i got to the end of the game i knew that wasnt happening but i was commited to the save the painting route anyway and got a horror show at the end.||
lethal topaz
||both endings were sad
BUT maelle wanted to this man to live out his life afte...
||Verso is over 100 years im pretty sure he said.||
buoyant lynx
||maybe i was just delusional picking maelle, cause i thought she would eventual...
||well Renoir alludes to this. In classic fashion Renoir was right. Alicia was going to die to the painting which is why he was forcing her out through gommages. And he knew maelle would never leave willingly either||
buoyant lynx
||verso and Renoir are on the same side||
lethal topaz
||now i gotta find a way to beat this Simon jack off, The Expedition continues 🫡||
buoyant lynx
Even though they appear at odds
wide pagoda
||lets see
there were 67 expeditions and the final one was 33 ||
lethal topaz
||lets see
there were 67 expeditions and the final one was 33 ||
heh ur spoiler looks like a penis
wide pagoda
||so 100 would check out ||
||cause verso also died at age 33 before the before the mom made the clone ||
buoyant lynx
JUSTICE FOR GUSTAVE
wide pagoda
||For those who come after ||
hollow sail
act 2 ||i love sirene, now that's a proper dungeon||
daring portal
btw some people may not like the story because || there is no happy ending on both sides. Either choose which path of the ending either acceptant or lingering in a world isn't real ||
they eat too much slop from mihoyo story, manga and anime
I curious what will their DLC about
buoyant lynx
They aren't doing dlc
At least they were vocal pre launch that they were not interested in dlc
That they created a whole world to do different things in not just this one game
amber sedge
yeah purely ending wise ||verso definitely feels like the true ending and is the better ending||
||that's the ending i chose too because the game naturally leads you into that one as well||
||however if i could've chosen to have maelle just back the fuck out and have the canvas live on i'd have chosen that tbh 
one family of assholes with a god complex ain't gonna be picked over a whole ass world and most importantly my goat esquie||
||but that's impossible with maelle's ending anyway as the canvas is doomed eventually either way so it's just a matter of when renoir will destroy it||
slim loom
||An entire family RPing inside a painting||
lethal topaz
||but that's impossible with maelle's ending anyway as the canvas is doomed even...
||maybe we can get Clea to slap some sense into her 
||
amber sedge
||maybe we can get Clea to slap some sense into her <:Copege:815860260958109707>...
||naah clea does not give a fuck, when you talk to her in the tower she's basically just like, i don't care if aline or you want to hide yourself in the canvas and die here, if you're happy with t hat then that's whatever. she just wants renoir to help fight the war with her lol||
lethal topaz
||naah clea does not give a fuck, when you talk to her in the tower she's basica...
||man i just wanted them to save the canvas and maelle to go tf home 
||
buoyant lynx
||I do like that about the game and world. That they don't all agree and don't just go with things because "oh my sister is so therefore I should" everyone is their own person||
lethal topaz
||maybe visit like once a day or some shit ||
buoyant lynx
||I mean think about how weak people are. If we had a magical thing that could transport us to the best day or time of our lives a lot of people would stay there forever||
lethal topaz
||I do like that about the game and world. That they don't all agree and don't j...
||i agree, the writing and world building is really solid.||
||also contains actual likable characters, like all of them i like unlike fuck ass JRPGs||
amber sedge
yeah the characters are well written with clear motivations of their own and the world building has been very fun to see
lethal topaz
yeah the characters are well written with clear motivations of their own and the...
its insanely refreshing
after years of slop
amber sedge
||ngl if there was a canvas world i could jump in with a perfect life for me then fuck it i would've gone in too, who cares about the real world anymore||
lethal topaz
||ngl if there was a canvas world i could jump in with a perfect life for me the...
||the catch would be it eventually consumes you and you wouldnt wanna leave so your body will deteriorate.||
amber sedge
||the catch would be it eventually consumes you and you wouldnt wanna leave so y...
||yeah but in the canvas that might take a hundred years or more, aline had been fighting renoir in the canvas for 67 years, and that was after renoir entered the canvas because aline was already in it for too long to begin with, you're still looking at a hundred years in it||
lethal topaz
||yeah but in the canvas that might take a hundred years or more, aline had been...
||i guess thats true, but another concern would be your relatives outside the canvas right. i guess you could invite them in there ||
amber sedge
||i guess thats true, but another concern would be your relatives outside the ca...
||yeah that's obviously the big thing, time clearly flows waaaaay faster inside the canvas, it's never explained how or how much, but a few months outside the canvas could very well be those hundred years. so by the time they visit you after like a week or two you're probably alrdy a vastly different person because of age||
hoary plover
yeah the characters are well written with clear motivations of their own and the...
sciel 🐐
hollow sail
yeah the characters are well written with clear motivations of their own and the...
i like that they don't overly abuse exposition, very smooth especially for a JRPG which tends to be more and more heavy handed recently
daring portal
||naah clea does not give a fuck, when you talk to her in the tower she's basica...
|| clea is goat||
dark lichen
They kinda just copied artorias from ds1 for this guy.
Who do you think Artorias is "copied" from?
||I wonder who else has a big sword with one arm infront an eclipse||
brisk apex
||Don't feel like y'all are being very charitable to Maelle. Did she lie to Renoir? Yes, but she justifiably felt like a living corpse irl, which is why she wanted to stay in the canvas. I'd choose her ending every time, personally||
lethal topaz
||Don't feel like y'all are being very charitable to Maelle. Did she lie to Reno...
||her ending was a horror show though with how it ended up. it was ultimately a selfish act cause her family lost another after verso. but ultimately she was happier inside the canvas yes, she gets to live a much more fullfilling life there.||
||also the dynamic of her being a god of that world and just bringing everyone back including Verso who literally did not want any part of it was kind of unsettling.||
lethal topaz
||i think another sad point there was the real verso saved her irl and the fake verso also tried to save her. so all that was for nothing if you go with the maelle ending.||
brisk apex
||her ending was a horror show though with how it ended up. it was ultimately a ...
||Saying Maelle is selfish (I agree) while pretending Verso's actions aren't is crazy to me||
lethal topaz
||Saying Maelle is selfish (I agree) while pretending Verso's actions aren't is ...
||verso's actions is also selfish ofcourse never said it wasnt.||
brisk apex
||You didn't explicitly absolve Verso of blame but it feels like the Verso defense force in this bitch ||
lethal topaz
||when i got the maelle ending though it just felt hollow, like i knew that was gonna be the outcome that she brings everyone back but it just didnt settle w/ me||
brisk apex
||I'll just say that if I was anywhere close to Alicia's irl physical condition, either kill me right there or let me live out the rest of my days however I want, even if it's a simulation||
lethal topaz
||I'll just say that if I was anywhere close to Alicia's irl physical condition,...
||thats kinda grim, i get that her situation is horrible but shes able bodied and have a family that cares for her (well her dad mostly) being mute and disfigured idk if i would want to off myself over that fate||
daring portal
||I'll just say that if I was anywhere close to Alicia's irl physical condition,...
|| life is always give difficult choices but I understand what kunc means, if alicia lives irl with this handicap u either rather to die or live in an illusion world and die. Reinor and Alina also doesn't want to loose verso and Alicia. So either parent selfish or her own selfish mean while clea doesn't give a fuck anymore only making money to help the family stay aloft ||
brisk apex
||thats kinda grim, i get that her situation is horrible but shes able bodied an...
||"able bodied"? Barely. I don't give a fuck if my family would care for me for eternity while I'm effectively a husk. That's not living, as far as I'm concerned. Literally fucking kill me. "I don't want that life"||
stable spear
"oh man i wonder what the boys are talking about now"
daring portal
lethal topaz
"oh man i wonder what the boys are talking about now"
the details of Lune's footwear
dont open
buoyant lynx
"oh man i wonder what the boys are talking about now"
just some talk about for those who come after
||lirik getting TRASHED by mask keeper||
streamer fight &
brisk apex
||I've not seen a single mask keeper move on ng nor ng+||
Homie got clapped before he could do anything
buoyant lynx
oh he's not even playing expert?
no wonder he seemed to do so much damage despite doing no damage
buoyant lynx
bro is literally getting annihilated
facetanking everything
actually i dont ever wanna hear this game is hard
after watching this
dude has probably taken fucking 20k damage
brisk apex
Is he not even trying to dodge?
raven charm
dude has probably taken fucking 20k damage
ye, it reaches a point you can probably facetank ||Simon ||without even taking half of the defensive luminas
raven charm
||can't face tank charm though||
can if ||you kill the boss that provides charm immunity lumina||
same area
buoyant lynx
yeah he just killed that
but guess what he didn't do
equip it
||glissando just charmed him||
raven charm
equip it
||characters say that killing him would make things easy, guess the obvious tip didn't land|| 
buoyant lynx
T R A S H E D
brisk apex
Might is like the last thing you should max, and that's only after deciding on a weapon and maxing out the other scaling stats first
brisk apex
Since might's efficacy scales with the weapon lvl
buoyant lynx
he does no damage and doesn't have any defense
only reason he can even progress is because he's playing on normal
brisk apex
Well, I don't think he ever claimed to be a god gamer so it's fine that he sucks
Imo, anyway
buoyant lynx
oh yeah for sure but not ognna stop me from making fun of how bad his build is
brisk apex
Definitely don't think he's killing ||Simon||, even on normal
buoyant lynx
he'll stop after the story
like most other streamers
no way he even does the things required to get to that fight
brisk apex
I mean, getting to that fight doesn't even require much
buoyant lynx
I don't think he's ever played a turn based rpg before this lol
misty linden
||I wonder who else has a big sword with one arm infront an eclipse||
You tell me. though, you just fixated on two details
raven charm
I mean, getting to that fight doesn't even require much
It's Lirik, I will not be suprised if he beelines to|| lumiere the moment he unlock flying||
brisk apex
Not wrong, honestly
I don't play video games that way but I shouldn't expect much from his lizard brain
misty linden
||"able bodied"? Barely. I don't give a fuck if my family would care for me for ...
||no one there is a real person though except for verso. Maelle is damning him to purgatory for selfish purposes. It's perversion. It was super off on her ending||
raven charm
||no one there is a real person though except for verso. Maelle is damning him t...
||everyone is real bro||
brisk apex
||Sure as shit didn't feel like Verso was real when, in Maelle's ending, he was basically suffering from imposter syndrome. Constantly crying "I don't want this life"||
buoyant lynx
||the canvas itself is what has a "piece of verso's soul" not the painting version of him||
brisk apex
||Maelle the realest character there imo ||
buoyant lynx
||it's the entirety of the object||
||other than aline and renoir who are there for real as well obviously||
amber sedge
||esquie is the realest mf out there 
||
buoyant lynx
||you could argue that every single creature in that canvas is equal parts verso's soul||
amber sedge
||i honestly think the "are they real or not" argument is pretty flawed and a better comparison would be "do they have the same value or not"||
||we consider an ant's value as obviously much lesser than a human's and would get rid of an entire colony of ants to save a single person any day of the week. but in this case it'd make for an even better debate because those painted people seem to clearly be just as intelligent as the painters, however one painter could technically make millions of them||
||but then you can start to go into debates of whether people that have yet to exist are more important than the people existing right now and blablable you can go on and on||
buoyant lynx
||they are of no value to me and neither is their world||
||stop living in VR world, Alicia||
raven charm
||we don't even have any proof painters and writers world is the "real" world, I remember Alicia telling Lune she can paint a canvas inside Verso canvas for lune to explore, what prevents their world from not being the original? nothing||
amber sedge
||we don't even have any proof painters and writers world is the "real" world, I...
||imagine if that's the twist of the sequel 
||
raven charm
||imagine if that's the twist of the sequel <:TE_PepeLaugh:898642659743260783> |...
||I hope so, would be funny to see verso ending enjoyers reaction ||
amber sedge
||hitting them with the exact same twist and the dessendre family themselves including their world are actually also painted||
raven charm
||condemned a whole world filled of sentient beings to oblivion for a family more irresponsible with their godlike powers than the greek pantheon || 
brisk apex
I don't want a sequel nor dlc to this story, tbh
I do want Sandfall to make another turn based rpg though
buoyant lynx
They've said they left the whole world open to branch off and do other things in this universe
So we'll see
misty linden
yeah it wouldn't make much sense for there to be a sequel
amber sedge
they also i believe stated they would keep the clair obscur naming too
but i agree i think a ||painters vs writers war|| would be kinda boring in comparison to what we have now
misty linden
||condemned a whole world filled of sentient beings to oblivion for a family mor...
||yeah its pretty fucked up that the whole world is a plaything to a grieving family that are at odds with each other||
amber sedge
||yeah its pretty fucked up that the whole world is a plaything to a grieving fa...
||even more fucked up that none of them even got a word in to decide the faith of their whole world, sciel and lune basically didn't get any say in act 3 despite being right there ||
||well i guess technically verso is part of that world but you know what i mean||
misty linden
||well i guess technically verso is part of that world but you know what i mean|...
||Verso is different because they implanted the memories of the original Verso right?||
amber sedge
||Verso is different because they implanted the memories of the original Verso r...
||correct, he has all the memories of the original verso as well as immortality, he was also directly painted by one of the painters as opposed to the generations of lumierians at that point conceived by just natural procreation||
misty linden
||while its true that the verso we play isn't the real verso I still feel he has a say in the world's end result. When I looked up Maelle's ending that shit was nightmareish lmao||
amber sedge
||while its true that the verso we play isn't the real verso I still feel he has...
||yeah maelle's ending was horrible, and verso definitely should have had a say in what happened to the world as he was obviously a part of it, but it's still fucked up literally nobody else from that world did, the whole civilization that spend 70 years sending expedition after expedition trying to save their world and it didn't rly amount to anything in the end as they got "bailed out" by painted verso and a paintress that was reincarnated in that world ||
raven charm
||nah dude is a professional backstabber, he has no say|| 
amber sedge
||i mean you know after a 100 years of despair, it's a bit understandable why he's a little bit jaded to say the least ||
raven charm
||own painted sister is so pissed with him that she just avoid a proper conversation and goodbye before getting herself killed||
amber sedge
||* at least a hundred||
buoyant lynx
||next game will be expedition 33 (expedition 33 reversed ) but in a writer world||
amber sedge
||own painted sister is so pissed with him that she just avoid a proper conversa...
||she's had a pretty rough hundred+ years too ||
raven charm
||she's had a pretty rough hundred+ years too <:Sadge:916414666887037038> ||
||ye but she didn't have suicidal tendencies before Verso have gone against her wishes in the letter and killed her father||
amber sedge
||ye but she didn't have suicidal tendencies before Verso have gone against her ...
||tbh we don't really know that, she might've had them before. we know she's been mad at maelle, jealous of her, etc from the cutscenes in the dreams, and we also know they're immortal and can't die. So she could've had suicidal tendencies but she never rly had a way to actually die until maelle awakened her paintress side and did it for her||
||odds are she's been tired for a long time by that point, her sister got painted over by clea, her father and brother had a huge fallout and basically are just fighting each other nonstop and her mom doesn't exactly like her much either. she's had a rough one ||
raven charm
||odds are she's been tired for a long time by that point, her sister got painte...
||you're forgetting the contents of the letter||
||she wants her family to continue thriving, that painted Verso and painted Renoir don't end up trying to kill each other||
amber sedge
||she wants her family to continue thriving, that painted Verso and painted Reno...
||i don't really see how that contradicts what i said if anything it adds to what i said, she's been tired of the war between their two families that has gone on for 67 years, yeah she wants her family to thrive too of course so she's seemingly opposed to verso's plan, but that doesn't mean she can only have gotten suicidal tendencies after her father got gommaged||
amber sedge
yeah if you haven't finished the game yet you definitely don't want to click those
amber sedge
oh yeah stay faaaaar away from those spoiler messages
raven charm
ye it's all massive spoilers
severe lance
His builds are so mcuh worse than sodas
Dam, is asmon gana end up better than both of them ?
raven charm
||i don't really see how that contradicts what i said <:monkaW:58511709688365057...
||I know I going in circles, but verso was literally next to her, being so mad she didn't even wanted a goodbye makes me believe she wanted to live if Verso had chosen another route||
nimble sky
amber sedge
||I know I going in circles, but verso was literally next to her, being so mad s...
||guess it's just difference in interpretation then i do think she was clearly upset with verso, but she's been around for a hundred of years of constant fighting and was basically born with a burned face she hides with a mask as well as being unable to properly speak. i think she's just tired at the end. she even mentions it in her letter, she's at peace with whatever happens, i think she'd still be at peace even if painted renoir wasn't gommaged. it's why she doesn't really do anything to stop either painted verso or painted renoir at any point. she's done||
daring portal
buoyant lynx
||well his chat ruined the end game for him telling him to spam stenhaldt||
||hitting for 1.5m damage base||
||somehow still died to a fucking burgeon||
actually dogshit at the game
hoary plover
filteredgold 
severe valley
Esquie plushie 
hoary plover
oh the ||visage boss you only have to destroy the mask i just killed him ||
im dumb as hell
hollow sail
filteredgold <a:odieyawn:1166631261494841384>
Did he? As expected of a political streamer
hoary plover
hes just ass at games its like with the elden ring DLC he got filtered and didnt play but came back he played a drooler build
dark lichen
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPuRgSLlP7Y|| Good vid post game 
buoyant lynx
raven charm
hoary plover
wait can i go back ?
misty linden
eventually
misty linden
nah not really
hoary plover
god this game is so beautiful
torpid scaffold
you can load up the save file after ending the game not really a spoiler
dark lichen
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPuRgSLlP7Y|| Good vid post game <:feelsglad:8...
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCLp6KCtYGE|| Follow up video
tawdry shard
HOLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
TIME TO FUCKIN LOCK IN
@buoyant lynx wanna watch?
check to see how insanely strong my Maelle is
stoic grove
Bro on the lampmaster lmao
tawdry shard
@buoyant lynx how do I uncap framerate during cutscenes?
it's capped at 30
like wtf
oh
rip
yea apparently fps is supposed to be capped at 30
wtf
buoyant lynx
why aren't you streaming
tawdry shard
should I turn on Vsync?
buoyant lynx
stop asking stupid ass questions you fucking fried bologna
tawdry shard
is it worth putting Verso in my party now?
or should I just stick with Sciel, Lune, and Maelle?
buoyant lynx
why dont you try using spoilers
instead of naming every fucking character in the game
lethal topaz
is it worth putting Verso in my party now?
||i would put Verso over Gustave. Hope this helps 
||
tawdry shard
U FUCK
misty linden
Verso is busted
tawdry shard
the portal
s
that say
Danger
is best to stay out?
are the enemies a lot harder than what my current level is for?
ocean perch
tawdry shard
@buoyant lynx @stoic grove
HOLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
LETS FUCKIN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LETS FUCKINNNNNNNNNNNNNN ASGBDHGASJDASHJSG
BRO
THIS FIGHT WAS INSANE!
I AM THE PARRY GOD HOLY FUCK
stable spear
|| 
yes||
hoary plover
||i would put Verso over Gustave. Hope this helps <:lacYoung:824972821603811338>...
LOL!
hoary plover
help ||been playing verso idk why i cant build up perfection from attack,skill,free aim is it a bug ? ||
severe valley
help ||been playing verso idk why i cant build up perfection from attack,skill,f...
||What weapon you using on him||
hoary plover
||What weapon you using on him||
||lanceram||
severe valley
No clue then, I never had that problem 
hoary plover
does he need to be in the main team ?
severe valley
He needs to be the one attacking if it was your question
hoary plover
He needs to be the one attacking if it was your question
oh
severe valley
I never got that but I guess it's possible if there is post about it
misty linden
never experienced that bug unless i didn't notice it
nimble sky
Never experienced the bug cause he's on the main team
tawdry shard
There’s
154 songs
On this OST
Holy
My listening material on my commute to and from work
misty linden
and only a handful of them are good
tawdry shard
Cap
Every single song I’ve heard in the game so far has been good
You just don’t enjoy the classical taste of good music
Fuck man
The more I play the more I start to wonder
The reason behind the white hair man and the girl he’s with
Might actually make sense
I feel like || they’re a version of Gustave and Maelle || 
misty linden
I'm just super critical
misty linden
I feel like || they’re a version of Gustave and Maelle || <:wtf:5403303038985175...
Keep playing and find out 
tawdry shard
Keep playing and find out <:Shrugeg:854063566058815528>
Fuck
I wanna leave work
I wanna play so bad
buoyant lynx
Stfu
tawdry shard
@buoyant lynx can you tell me how you build your Maelle and Lune