Clair Obscur: Expedition 33

[ocean perch]

bbecause u cant outspeed your own characters

its just order u chose

oh first strike even give first turn and after she gets another

thats op af

[nimble sky]

i think if you just run into enemys and trigger combat without pressing F it will go with order of speed

or whatever the key for that fireball attack is for mkb

[ocean perch]

ye but thats like impossible to screw up

enemies arent very aggresive in this game

u can always smack them first

[nimble sky]

yea but that fireball attack gives everyone on your team first strike

hence u got that order problem

[ocean perch]

i dont have that problem anymore

she now play first

[ocean perch]

holy lantern boss is scary

[daring portal]

a bit

u will get used to it

[ocean perch]

ye

i actually beat him on expert lol

what a cool design

like 4th try

wtf is happening after lantern boss dafuq

so confused

[daring portal]

I will smash you bouncy boy

[slim loom]

I want to be Gustave

Soon I will be able to do his hairstyle

[severe lance]

I just finished flying waters ||is this a side area or will I be sent here later?||

[hollow sail]

||there is a subquest in that area||

[severe lance]

||I see, I thought it'd a full zone but its just a room and I already killed that elite so, neat||

[hollow sail]

||yeah there are a lot of zones that are just a room. if this game was not goated there would have been a lot of criticism lmao||

[stable spear]

oh god shes perfect

[swift fiber]

seg

[orchid ibex]

lunae

[bronze geode]

Want a hug?

[stable spear]

i hope theres something that scales on luck

[orchid ibex]

luck enjoyer

[swift fiber]

||the girl you like ||

[hollow sail]

i unironically am watching sweetily playing this and im glad she abandoned the parry ONLY run for her first playthrough

need to enjoy building characters too

[amber sedge]

damn they're nerfing stendhal

https://i.imgur.com/8fn0KFO.png

it was expected but still

[raven charm]

totally deserved, look at the multiplier of this 9 cost skill

now compare to Stendhal

[amber sedge]

just a little bit stronger

[bronze geode]

Small diff

No biggie

[nimble sky]

Is that a mod that gives u exact number for the scaling

I knew the description was bs cause some skills that claim to do low DMG actually does a lot lol

[buoyant lynx]

She'll still be utterly broken regardless

They did not balance the game at all for 1 person runs

[amber sedge]

i don't think it'll even rly matter for stendhal unless they absolutely neuter it

i was hitting for 1.6b even 10% of that would still oneshot everything

[raven charm]

yes

https://www.nexusmods.com/clairobscurexpedition33/mods/134?tab=posts&BH=1

Highly recommend, the skill descriptions lie a lot

like this skill from ||Verso|| for example, original description doesn't say anything about the dmg increase per cast having a limit

[daring portal]

SingsMic ForsenSingingAtYou ViolinTime ForsenSingingAtYou PianoTime zululDrums ForsenSingingAtYou TrumpetTime ForsenSingingAtYou GuitarTime 󠀀

forsen enjoy expedition 33 even he get filter

@buoyant lynx

he is at ||Renior||

[amber sedge]

i feel like skill descriptions as a whole hide too much information

like the difference between extreme or high damage or whatever

[buoyant lynx]

well you have shit like percee

[amber sedge]

sometimes it just feels like it's just flavor lol

[buoyant lynx]

which still does astronomical damage

compared to anything else that says "low"

[amber sedge]

yeah that's what i mean with that too

it just feels like flavor text

and not at all indicates just how much dmg something can do

[buoyant lynx]

2500% *2 for virtous * whatever the increased powerful buff is

i assume defenceless is also a multiplier?

[raven charm]

another example, Focused foretell is 100% multiplier, Grim Harvest is 300%, both are 1 hit and considered medium damage

[buoyant lynx]

I hoenstly stopped using maelle as soon as i got a 4th party member

because of how idiotic her damage was

even with dam cap every counter is maxing the cap

[raven charm]

increased dmg taken, but on that skill it's applied to yourself not the enemy

[buoyant lynx]

nah i just meant if i apply defenceless to the enemy

[raven charm]

which doesn't matter since u will do insane dmg anyway

[buoyant lynx]

like i use someone else to apply defenseless first

i assume that's a damage multiplier to incoming damage

[amber sedge]

yeah i think it's 25%?

which you can increase by an additional 15% with the greater defenceless lumina

[buoyant lynx]

like multipliers are great if numbers are low

but once you get any reasonable sized number multipliers just get way out of control

[buoyant lynx]

how do i get there?

i've walked around this area like 15 times

||it's the alicia axon area 2nd area where the orange petank is||

[stable spear]

bro this game is gonna fuck my ass

my boomer 230ms reflexes can't handle the expert parry timings

[buoyant lynx]

parry timings are the same on all difficulties

[stable spear]

I spent an hour and a half on the first challenging mob in the area

[buoyant lynx]

i will say most parry timings are LATER

then you would expect

to give time for you boomer fucks

[stable spear]

There was a mod that said uhhh

[hollow sail]

ik right i resorted to dodge most like a pussay

[stable spear]

.25 for easiest then .15 for the rest it thought

[stable spear]

for me it's earlier

[amber sedge]

it's later

[buoyant lynx]

Like the next area/

[amber sedge]

spend an hour going back and forth there too

[buoyant lynx]

||i've already killed maelee||

||is it on the mountain part?||

[stable spear]

I'm still trying for now

me when I tried to parry ||the fucking burgeon eating your teammate||

[amber sedge]

||shortly after that you take the lift to a forest looking area, in that area is another lift that takes you back to get that item||

[stable spear]

[buoyant lynx]

got it thanks i'll look for that

[buoyant lynx]

Yeah I trtied to dodge this too

[amber sedge]

"that" meaning , the area where the item is

[buoyant lynx]

but they make sure with the animation that you know it can't be done

because even in dodge your character is still in the attack

[stable spear]

rigged bullshit

[buoyant lynx]

There's only a few encounters where i genuinely had to resort to dodge

because i just couldn't understand when to parry

[stable spear]

bro the lancier fight

[daring portal]

parry when u hear the sound and a bit delay

[stable spear]

the party is what makes the nosie 😭

[buoyant lynx]

some attacks go off before the noise

||frost evequiee in particular has 3 different variations on his melee attack||

[daring portal]

yeah those shit is trolling

[buoyant lynx]

and one of them hits before the noise

[stable spear]

Trust me after eating shit on the fucking lancier in the very first area for an hour and a half

[buoyant lynx]

My wife got pissed at me at that area cause i took like 30 minutes

"why can't we just play normal you're wasting my time"

but since then she's learned i am a parry god

[stable spear]

[daring portal]

women moment

[nimble sky]

the feints are worse than anything else in this game

[stable spear]

I still get absolutely dicked on by mobs

[daring portal]

well atriax is a god of parry because he has a wife which make him good at parry her attack

[stable spear]

when I'm not fully paying attention 😭

[buoyant lynx]

||gestral 1v1's are crazy with feints||

[stable spear]

IRL parry training

[buoyant lynx]

took em a long time to do the arena

me*

[daring portal]

me is ok

1vs1 not bad for me

it predictable compare some monster using animation before sound

[nimble sky]

yea that fatass one that feints and u cant tgell cause the name of the attack is the same

[amber sedge]

fucking julien tiny head

[daring portal]

bro just look at animation

I don't read their attack name

btw

[nimble sky]

he feints bro..

[buoyant lynx]

weebow didn't fight them

[daring portal]

I did

[buoyant lynx]

they literally have like 6 attacks that all look the same

[daring portal]

wait

which arena

I did all arena

[nimble sky]

||dark gestral or the one that requires flying||

[daring portal]

ah seem like I didn't reach that

[nimble sky]

the last arena i was too strong to care but the 2nd one i was under leveled

[severe lance]

Bro I spent almost an hour on Maelle‘s sparring match at the start

And that lancier was such a cunt I decided to only parry one attack

[daring portal]

[stable spear]

real

[amber sedge]

yeah i had more issues on that one than the mime

[buoyant lynx]

You know who actually has the best visual clarity for attacks?

||sprong||

[daring portal]

||axon dancer|| is cinema but attack like some shit

aalways look up

[hollow sail]

back to dodge and parry

[stable spear]

i hope i didnt need any of this money

[amber sedge]

[buoyant lynx]

you think it stops there

[stable spear]

ok thank god it didnt take me too long

[nimble sky]

i thik this one is the parkour one

[amber sedge]

yeah i deleted just in case lmao

i think that is the first one

[stable spear]

it is

but i worry about future ones

i was always dogshit at jump quests

[amber sedge]

i think they're quite manageable and the devs were nice enough for most of them

there is one in specific a lot of ppl complain about though

[stable spear]

oop

[amber sedge]

but you got this i believe in you

[raven charm]

U will be fine, ||Monoco|| makes parkour a joke

[ocean perch]

soda playing

[ocean perch]

should i use 25k ?

[lavish tangle]

@uneven stirrup

[ocean perch]

is that maelle ?

sciel or lune ?

[lavish tangle]

we would see feet if it was lune

so id guess maelle

imma look for more

[ocean perch]

[lavish tangle]

nvm it was lune

https://www.nexusmods.com/clairobscurexpedition33/mods/128

[stoic grove]

Downloaded

[orchid ibex]

😭

i dodged that tbf

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1241863658284253264.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=mhm~2

[buoyant lynx]

||what ending did everyone choose?||

[daring portal]

||verso||

[lavish tangle]

|| verso || plan on doing || M || another time or ng+

[buoyant lynx]

chad ending

[amber sedge]

ending related spoiler ||verso is just the better ending||

[daring portal]

||selfish ones and aware ones|| but I hope they make a better ending because || both of them sad af ||

it cinema af

better than ff16 story

forsen end the game and say story muisc are top notch

which is W

10/10

[buoyant lynx]

yea we just watched the other one on youtube

||it's so bad. Not like written poorly but clearly the "bad" ending||

[daring portal]

||selfish ending||

[amber sedge]

ending spoilers ||tbh they're both bad, one is just not as bad lmao||

but like ||depending on how you see the canvas world, and in my case i see them as real sentinent beings, verso's ending is basically genociding a whole world to save a crumbling family||

||and it's still better than having a griefing teenager that is clearly not in a good mental spot to play god over a whole world, forcing her brother, both real and painted to continue living on, doing whatever she wants while she's slowly dying and either renoir will go back into the painting so we have another paintress situation on our hand or she dies in there and renoir destroys the canvas and they all just die anyway||

ending spoilers still obviously, you are definitely not gonna want to click that

[buoyant lynx]

Yeah this is why i think his is better

||he's also more aware it's not real and that he himself isn't real||

||same with sciel which is why i think she hugs him, meanwhile lune can't cope and pulls a maelle and just sits there angry||

[amber sedge]

||imo they are real, but that plays into the obvious discussion of what real constitutes, they are obviously weaker than the painters who are basically gods to them, but they have lived real lives as sentient beings that can leave behind offspring and have their own memories, emotions and experiences. i think it's more of a matter of might makes right in this case because even when you consider the people in the canvas as real, the painters can paint hundreds of these worlds and killing them essentially erases hundreds of future worlds||

still ending spoilers

[buoyant lynx]

||kinda seems like an allegory towards AI. I don't consider them real. They are painted. They think they are real, but verso comes to the understanding that he isn't real. Sciel does too. That's why he doesn't maelle to waste her real actual real life in the painting living a fake life||

[amber sedge]

||i don't think verso comes to that understanding, he just prioritizes his family above everything, he would do everything to protect them because essentially aline painted him that way as the perfect, caring son which is why he desperately wanted to kick the mother out of the canvas for her safety. he's also constantly unsure about himself and what to do which you can see basically every moment of act 3 until he sees the mother dive back in, in which case he just realizes that nothing is gonna stop either maelle or aline from just slowly killing themselves in the canvas||

||i think that and the lie maelle told renoir that painted verso instantly noticed was bullshit just forced his hand because he knew at that point they were never gonna leave the canvas alone, as the canvas also seems to have highly addictive properties||

||imo it's a last of us 1 situation where he just prioritized his loved ones over the rest of the world||

||but yeah there's basically no way there could be a good ending, cuz even in the best case scenario where maelle isn't addicted and can leave the painting and come back so renoir doesn't have to destroy it, they are still forcing the last bit of real verso's soul to keep painting for eternity despite him being completely exhausted and tired of it to the point of depression when he didn't even like painting to begin with lol. even more cruel that it would be because of maelle since he sacrificed his life for her and she'd make him suffer like that in return||

[daring portal]

||good ending in DLC ||

[amber sedge]

ok still ending spoilers, i think that's probably it though

[daring portal]

always until u feel nothing and being aware

[amber sedge]

also spoiler that

[daring portal]

||immortal can be a blessing and also a cursed ||

[buoyant lynx]

spoiler what

[amber sedge]

[daring portal]

every jp rpg always have god I am the god of retard

[buoyant lynx]

we know you're retarded weebow

you dont have to tell us

[daring portal]

is this a spoiler?

[amber sedge]

here he goes again

[daring portal]

[ocean perch]

https://tenor.com/view/expedition33-sandfall-interactive-gif-16773893189782446784

[nimble sky]

That's one of the fights I enjoyed a lot

[buoyant lynx]

I think everyone did

one of the most well designed fights in any jrpg

[amber sedge]

had a cool ending too

[buoyant lynx]

||the lantern boss was also fun despite being easy||

[amber sedge]

very stylish

[nimble sky]

I hated that one cause I hate aiming with controller

[buoyant lynx]

||his ultimate was easier for me to parry than his fucking 7 hits combos||

[nimble sky]

|| plus his attacks are easier to dodge if you failed the lamp shooting ||

Yea lol

[ocean perch]

this isnt jrpg lol

[daring portal]

frpg

[slim loom]

this boss was fun

but easy

I guess all major bosses are fun

and easy

[daring portal]

|| The dancer axon boss and Renovir || are my biggest favorite

bosses

one i ls like mmorpg boss

and one is badass

[misty linden]

gog damn 1 mil exp

||gotta get that painted power unlocked for everyone ||

really gimped my damage

[orchid ibex]

||just got to act 3||

||was wondering why i havent seen act 3 in so long||

[buoyant lynx]

Yeah act2 is really long if you like to explore

[stable spear]

uh is it worth trying to kill this early

[buoyant lynx]

no

that thing is basically the horse sentinel in ER

[orchid ibex]

fuck it parry central

[stable spear]

oh god

idk if I have the mental for this

I got to 80% and fucked up now I'm immeasurably tilted

[buoyant lynx]

it's really not worth the hour it's gonna take you

[stable spear]

ill try again when i get maelle

[orchid ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1334350501851955230.webp?size=48&name=trol

i came back to it after act 2

man

the double orb attack just explodes my eardrums

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/945862126273191987.webp?size=48&name=pepeW

[stable spear]

also i swear

for some reason

gustave's fully charged overcharge voiceline is like, WAY too loud

[buoyant lynx]

no it's because it's badass

FOR THOSE WHO COME AFTER

[stable spear]

like everyone's voice is normal and then SUDDENLY

FOR THOSE WHO COME AFTER

jumpscare

[orchid ibex]

for those who come after

[hollow sail]

late chapter 1 is a reasonable time if you want to get the abbest

[swift fiber]

🗣️ for those who come after

[stable spear]

idk when that is but i at least want another body there for when i inevitably choke on one of the only 3 moves ive seen from that hoe

[daring portal]

[severe lance]

wtf

[orchid ibex]

finished

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1366333563284357201.png?size=160&name=Absolute+Obscure

[buoyant lynx]

Fixed Medalum third Lumina doubling all damage in Virtuose Stance instead of doubling only Burn damage.

Stendhal: Reduced damage by 40%.

ABUSERS BE GONE

[nimble sky]

Oh is that why it was doing so much more dmg despite having shittier atk stats

[buoyant lynx]

what?

stendhalt?

no it had a 2500% multiplier lol

[bronze geode]

40% is nothing lmao

[nimble sky]

There are bugs for other weapons too

[bronze geode]

I thought there were going to nerf it by lik90

[buoyant lynx]

i mean they cut it's damage in half

[nimble sky]

No like the double damage in virtuoso stance thing

For medalum

[bronze geode]

Its. Prob still the strongest skill in the game no

[buoyant lynx]

||there's multiple builds that can one round simon||

[nimble sky]

It's one of the skills that is gated by progression so I don't mind it being op, but it was just too op before

[bronze geode]

||i guess low hp verso should be pretty close now, or burn stack||

[buoyant lynx]

||i'd love to know how many people beat simon without cheesing him||

[nimble sky]

|| I didn't one shot him but I didn't let him get his 3rd phase going ||

[ocean perch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMrPQflzcDI

[slim loom]

||took me 4 turns to kill him||

[ocean perch]

asmon playing

[severe lance]

wtf ||there's a mime in the prologue|| ???

I try to look at every nook and cranny and I still miss ton of shit in every game

[orchid ibex]

ye

[ocean perch]

btw when this started at 100 do u think ppl already know about it what it was ? because there isnt many ppl who live up to 100

[amber sedge]

well act 2 spoilers ||expedition 0 started as a search and rescue, and since that happened the same time as the fracture then they should've known something was going on||

[ocean perch]

wait

im not in act 2

should i not read it

[amber sedge]

which does seem weird to me because ||there obviously wouldn't rly have been many 100 year or older people, and certainly not enough to start a search and rescue mission lol, i guess they were probably just doing it cuz of the fracture though, not necessarily because suddenly a bunch of 100 year olds went missing lol||

[ocean perch]

well im but at start

[amber sedge]

yeah it's a spoiler for act 2

so best not to

[ocean perch]

ok

[amber sedge]

it's kind of a light spoiler imo but obviously better safe than sorry

[swift fiber]

THIS IS WHY ||MONOCO ||IS MY GOAT

[stable spear]

so how good or bad of an idea is it to just only level might and go full parry/counter

[misty linden]

not that good

you want to scale your damage with other stats imo

weapons have scaling with specific stats

plus early in the game you can easily hit damage cap by just leveling up your stats that scale with your weapon

[stable spear]

OK

I'm just maxing out luck only

[buoyant lynx]

You can do whatever stats you want honestly. The damage difference is negligible there are also weapons that scale with every combo of stats

[stable spear]

alright luck it is

[wide pagoda]

||clea fight|| for anyone that wants to see how crazy it is || https://www.twitch.tv/ainrun||

[severe lance]

goddam jumpscare

[severe lance]

How do I reach the top one ?

[amber sedge]

iirc you can't reach that one yet so you're good

[indigo dove]

after choking the big ass sword attack I finally did it

[amber sedge]

[indigo dove]

Nvm

After math

I cwied

[buoyant lynx]

[torpid scaffold]

can i max every stat end game like oblivion or do i have to allocate it carefully

[nimble sky]

Max 99 levels so that's 99*3 points

Can't max everything

[torpid scaffold]

is there a stat boosting items if so whats the max

[nimble sky]

Nope, only get stat points from level ups

[torpid scaffold]

Alr ty

Ill just go full tank and parry

[raven charm]

you can farm colour of lumina so it is possible to have all passives you want in a character, but stats no

[bronze geode]

|| u can easily max crit with pictos so u never need to invest into it||

but 1 stat u have to kinda pick

which not to spec

[torpid scaffold]

dont scare me with the spoiler

[indigo dove]

||is maelle like a distant relative of the paintresss? Or sum shit yes or no answers only||

[buoyant lynx]

Not answering because it'll spoil

You're asking for basically the entire game to be spoilered with that question regardless of if the answer is yes or no

[indigo dove]

[orchid ibex]

||she is among us ||

[brisk apex]

[nimble sky]

I'm looking at some fun build videos and this guy just straight up lying

[daring portal]

[nimble sky]

This retard probably does his combo with defensive stance and level 3 weapon

[swift fiber]

||Monoco|| Deaths door build had a weapon that always goes to agile then cards that would always loop to cultist slash with a mix of Sheild spamming per Culitst slash with cheater picto

[swift fiber]

peak

[indigo dove]

wu da

this is lost woods

[indigo dove]

is this a bug

[orchid ibex]

no

some areas really are like that

[misty linden]

Yeah some areas are just a fixed camera with a record as the only loot. Probably wants you to take in the view and play the record at camp

[indigo dove]

||where to get the three parts? I think the lines leading to 3 certain areas, but I don't know where to start from here||

[gloomy mirage]

they ever mentioned who tf the writers are that clea's apparently fighting against? do they got powers irl too or sm?

[lyric elk]

i cant believe

that this game actually deserved the hype

finished yesterday and its actually top 3 of all time

i wanted to countercirclejerk it but its impossible

[nimble sky]

no you can only speculate

[bronze geode]

for once circlejerk was justified

[hollow sail]

i dont think it's 11/10 the circlejerks made it as but I will happily recommend this game to anyone

i've shilled it irl in fact

[swift fiber]

i think if you were to recommend a game to someone who has never played a turnbased game this would be the first thing you would recommend if you have finished the game yourself

[lyric elk]

https://youtu.be/3kMbTzomh94

this is going in my goated game OST playlist of all time list

[daring portal]

[wide pagoda]

https://youtu.be/qNu5UvsRNI8

[hollow sail]

The game's intro screen gets me everytime

[indigo dove]

[ocean perch]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9UaspM79Fk||

[alpine osprey]

lvl 37

ask me about my 40 min sprong run

[ocean perch]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l8xcNYuydA||

[ocean perch]

https://tenor.com/view/clair-obscur-clair-obscur-expedition-33-expedition-33-33-clair-gif-13372527364953386407

[lavish tangle]

https://tenor.com/bR8G0.gif

[ocean perch]

is monoco also ||immortal || ?

[nimble sky]

Every gestral can respawn

They just lose memories

[ocean perch]

ye so thats not basically them anymore

[nimble sky]

Yeah and I don't think monoco is special in that case, just during the time where the game took place

[buoyant lynx]

Further your relationship with him

[ocean perch]

i guess hes just good fighter he never died

[buoyant lynx]

you will find out more than just that answer

[buoyant lynx]

clueless

[ocean perch]

i know monoco is ||painted by Verso || correct ?

[buoyant lynx]

how far are you in the game

before i answwer

[ocean perch]

at beginning of act 2

[buoyant lynx]

ok won't answer then

most of your questions are answered at the end of a2

[ocean perch]

well some stuff got spoiled to me but i guess not this ?

[nimble sky]

We basically got a super saiyan in the gestral village so monoco being a bit special as well isn't that far of a stretch

[buoyant lynx]

Has anyone figured out the "find an expeditioner" things for sale in the gestral village?

I'm reading a lot of people believe it's bugged

[raven charm]

||Gustave ||maybe?

[buoyant lynx]

||see i'm reading a lot of that. That people think the story changed because gustave voice actor dipped so you're supposed to have him and don't, but the entire story is contigent on verso so that doesn't make sense. Also the one in gestral village specifically you have gustave in the party for. There are also other ones that you can only reach in act 2 that say the same thing that are straight up impossible to get to with gustave||

[nimble sky]

I assumed there was gonna be some dlc but a bug is most likely

[raven charm]

Is the name of the npc ||Delsitra? according to wiki it's the only npc that sells cosmetics in the village, and it's all for Gustave||

[buoyant lynx]

Yeah but he doesn't actually sell anything for gustave. if you talk to him with gustave in the party he still doesn't have shit. You also can't buy it in NG+ when you have everyone

[raven charm]

||Can't check now for obvious reason, but I remember buying it||

[bronze geode]

||id guess dlc cook but i also doubt it||

[raven charm]

||Would be cool, a route that starts by the end of act 1 with a actual good ending|| (massive spoiler)

[buoyant lynx]

||did you admit as verso to maelle that you could have saved him?||

[raven charm]

||ye and his reason was stupid, if she found the truth she would know she can revive him, she would be against verso regardless||

[amber sedge]

i think he actually fucked himself with that because very late game relationship/ending spoiler ||gustave would've probably tried to convince maelle to leave the painting for her own health||

[raven charm]

^ this

[ocean perch]

btw x33 also show how fragile is life in general

[raven charm]

||Gustave cares about Maelle more than anything else||

[slim loom]

weird

[stable spear]

I just got the solo party pictos they're crazy wtf

[buoyant lynx]

[ocean perch]

LTG playing dafuq

too

https://tenor.com/view/mods-revive-chat-gif-4292487612428504397

[amber sedge]

[lethal topaz]

||ok i finally stopped stalling and ended act 2, i shouldnt have stalled so long i thought the game was gonna be over ||

||also CINEMA||

[buoyant lynx]

You can go straight to the boss in the next act if you want

You can keep playing after you kill him which is what I did since my wife wanted to see how the story would go

[amber sedge]

i did the side stuff first, it adds more to the ending

[lethal topaz]

i like exploring everything and backtracking like a retard

[buoyant lynx]

I did a couple but she gets bored with watching combat so I had to placate her

[lethal topaz]

my only gripe with that is i was overleveled by a lot

[amber sedge]

yeah and the important ones are basically the toughest content in the game so you probably need to prepare a bit for it anyway

i just nerfed myself for the final fights

or else you miss out on some pretty cool dialogue

[bronze geode]

is there actually any downside to ||insta finishing act 3||

cause i did all side shit first, not sure if i would miss out on anything otherwise

[amber sedge]

mostly just lore and backstory that provides more info on certain characters which can influence how you see the ending

for example (lategame + ending spoilers) ||there's journals which you can only get starting act 3 that involve verso and his thoughts back then, giving you more information and backstory to be able to make a more informed ending choice||

[buoyant lynx]

To clarify though you don't LOSE these. Like they aren't gated and go away or anything if you go straight to the boss

You just don't have that information for your decision

[severe lance]

highest speed AND this perk yet she's going last, the hell ?

[buoyant lynx]

That only works if you don't ambush an enemy

If you do the paint spray that picto is useless

Because your entire team gets to go first

What the rules are past that I don't know because I've also noted that the highest speed person does not go first

[nimble sky]

Make lune be your left most character in combat and she will go first

Somebody asked this too a while ago

[severe lance]

man thats annoying as fuck, she eclipses the others in speed

[buoyant lynx]

That doesn't work. Soda did that

[nimble sky]

If everyone has first strike, it goes with party order

If you press RB before engaging combat everyone has first strike

[buoyant lynx]

I literally watched soda try that on his stream

[severe lance]

You wana know who keeps going first? My Maelle who's the slowest and in the middle.

[buoyant lynx]

You can't even change party order

[nimble sky]

U can

By unselecting everyone in the party

[buoyant lynx]

They appear based on where they are on the pause screen

[nimble sky]

And then the first one u selected will be the left most character

[buoyant lynx]

You are free to go watch soda vod yesterday and watch him literally put maelle in the party first

And she still didn't go first

[nimble sky]

Was there even a patch in the past week

[buoyant lynx]

My monoco is on the right and he goes first

[nimble sky]

Somebody was asking and it worked for them last week

As it did for me

[buoyant lynx]

There was a patch at the end of last week

[severe lance]

Imma test if its based on the character you're using at the overworld ig

[nimble sky]

Might be the patch then

I literally made my dps go first and sciel 2nd so he can go twice

[severe lance]

nope, this shit feels completely random
attacked with lune and she has highest speed

still last

[nimble sky]

No matter the speed

[buoyant lynx]

Is she on the right?

In the combat screen

[severe lance]

yes

but that was fine the last couple days

[buoyant lynx]

Yeah I don't know what else they use to determine turn order

But there must be something special about the first time

Turn

[nimble sky]

Does everyone on your team have the first strike perk

[severe lance]

no, just lune

[buoyant lynx]

But you're initiating combat with the paint spray?

Try just running into them for fun

[severe lance]

aight

[buoyant lynx]

I feel like the paint spray thing just does something completely different with turns for some reason

[nimble sky]

Maybe that too since once I got first strike I stopped using the spray

[severe lance]

lul

[nimble sky]

Just load all my character with the perk and manipulate party order

[buoyant lynx]

Yeah try changing your party order now and running into mobs

Seems like there two completely different rule sets based on if you spray or run into them

[severe lance]

ok

its definitely going by party order when I spray

also removed the first strike perk

[buoyant lynx]

They probably had a problem with the paint spray and applying speed to turn order

Because mobs might have higher speed

So they just turned it off for the first entire turn

If you paint spray to initiate

To make it easier for them

[nimble sky]

Yea so maybe having the perk and spraying would fuck with the turn order

[severe lance]

Spraying makes the perk null

but If I perk and run I get a double turn on lune

maybe if I give everyone the perk and run in I might get double turn on all of them

Spraying vs Running in with the perk on everyone both times

[tawdry shard]

What happens if you forget to grab the rose

In the beginning

Just starting this game btw

what scaling type should I use

this XeSS one looks amazing

idk what it is tho

maybe change back to DLSS?

[buoyant lynx]

xess is intel

you

[tawdry shard]

LETS FUCKIN GOO

EASY

[buoyant lynx]

hey retard

we hide spoilers in here

[tawdry shard]

IM TEARING UP

[buoyant lynx]

bro you can't read or?

[tawdry shard]

It’s the beginning of the game

It’s fine 🙂

Also

Why didn’t Gustave get deaded like the chick?

Do they go to some other world?

I like the outfits

The expedition outfits

[raven charm]

because he's one year younger than her

[buoyant lynx]

don't even bother light couldn't figure out the plot of a fucking clifford book

[hollow sail]

maelle deliberately pointed out he's younger

when they're running on rooftops

[tawdry shard]

[hollow sail]

just in general I like how e33 devs mostly "hint" things than over exposition everything

so far at least

[tawdry shard]

is it more beneficial to dodge instead of parry

?

[hollow sail]

dodge is easier, that's it

parry = perfect dodge without the "normal" dodge grace window iirc

[tawdry shard]

but do you get like that follow up

by dodging?

or faster turn?

or something?

[hollow sail]

no, it's just easier

[tawdry shard]

oh

ok

I changed back to DLSS- quality

it looks better

[buoyant lynx]

who asked

[tawdry shard]

I assume that XeSS setting or whatever might only benefit from like the 5000 series cards?

benefit more*

[buoyant lynx]

i assume you can't read

since i literally told you what it does

[tawdry shard]

seems like it's AI tech

[buoyant lynx]

you fucking magikarp

[tawdry shard]

HOW DO I GET TOKENS?

NVM

[buoyant lynx]

SHUT THE FUCK UP GODDAMNIT

[tawdry shard]

Catherine needs to be part of my team!

AND LUNE!

😮

WAIT

WHY DOES MAELLE SOUND LIKE THE VA THAT VOICED SHADOWHEART?

@buoyant lynx

[amber sedge]

this channel used to be nice

[tawdry shard]

now it's better because I'm finally playing!

[nimble sky]

Light is that one friend in the movie theater that asks u wtf is happening on his screen

Not realizing ur both watching the same thing at the same pace

[buoyant lynx]

too bad we can't rename channels

or i'd just rename it to ruined

[bronze geode]

[tawdry shard]

lol

yoooooo

the opening scene

before act 1

jesus

talk about chaos already

YO THIS GAME IS SO FUCKIN SICKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

LETS FUCKIN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

man the scene before this

if I was him

I would have probably tried to do the same bro

ngl

|| whole expedition get wiped within the first 5 mins of landing, all hope was lost ||

I think

Lune is going to be my favorite charaacter

god she's so strong

holy shit

GET FUCKIN CARTED BROOOOO

@buoyant lynx

so umm

I have Gustave's abilities

vitality, might, and defense

I wanna make him kinda tanky

but still do moderate damage

and I have Lune's abilities as might, agility, and luck

I wanna make her into a damage dealing goddess

as she should be

I guess that's fine right?

I assume you can reset abilities later on

maybe I should watch one of you stream and ninja some ability pointers

[tawdry shard]

HOLY FUCKKKKKK

DIEEDIEIDIEIDIEDIEIDIEDIEIDIEDIEIDE

I can't believe

Hato

dislikes this game

holy shit

I'm literally addicted

[tawdry shard]

the music in this game

omfg

[misty linden]

idk about all of you but the music is alright lmao. Doesn't feel very spectacular.

[last rover]

Plays like 20 minutes and already creaming

[indigo dove]

20 minutes all he needs to drop the game

[ocean perch]

lol its very high quality

[tawdry shard]

AYOOOOOOO

look at these sick blades

damnnnnnnnn

[misty linden]

I didn't say it was low quality? Just feels like its pretty forgetful

[ocean perch]

wut

u must be trolling

maybe u into different type music but this ost is def one of the most memorable

[misty linden]

subjective man, but ok

[ocean perch]

i mean not really u dont need galaxy brain to tell this music is very memorable especially with what happen in game

[misty linden]

bro is mad at an opinion 💀

[ocean perch]

im not mad but saying its forgetful is kinda out of place

[misty linden]

i promise you after you are done playing this game a couple months down the line you wont even be thinking about the ost

[ocean perch]

no

i literally gonna remember this music forever

no joke

[misty linden]

[tawdry shard]

THIS MF ABOUT TO GET SLAPPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ocean perch]

usually if u listening some music without any context u can forget it eventually but if u listen music thats tied to some experience if its IRL or really good game like this one its hard to forget also music in x33 is like 60% of atmosphere maybe more

[severe lance]

Nah the OST is banger af, rarely do games make me jam to the music plus there's so many tracks and Im not even halfway through the game

[ocean perch]

its hard to shit talk x33 really for me i dont know because its really good game what can i tell u

there are some issue but they so minor its not even worth mention it

[misty linden]

I'm not even shit talking lmao

[swift fiber]

actually agree i really only like 3 osts in this game evreything is else is preety ok

[ocean perch]

im not saying u shit talking im just saying in general

its hard to find something bad about game for me

im just suprised u said music is forgetful because thats like one of the strongest point of game

[misty linden]

I like the mime and petank song though. Pretty catchy and it feels very french

[tawdry shard]

GET FUCKEDDDDDDDD

GOD I AM SO GOOD AT THIS GAME WTF

literally MAELLE CARRYING HARD

perfect parry is insanely strong on her

she punishes really hard

holy shit

why didn't I start this game earlier man

[ocean perch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kMbTzomh94 do u like this one ?

its really hard to forget music like this when u figthting boss cant say name because spoilers and this start goes hard

[misty linden]

yeah its a good one, it captures the fight pretty well. But im talking more of all the songs in general.

||Like this is song is in like one of the most important fights of the story so it better be good||

[ocean perch]

well i mean even main menu theme song

is catchy af

i dont know maybe im just glazin game too much but with cutscenes in game or boss fights when most of these songs plays its pure cinema there are only very few tracks that are forgetful for me

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMrPQflzcDI|| for example this song i think even if its pretty good its kinda out of place lol but i still remember it well because its catchy

[misty linden]

it's all good and i respect your opinion

[ocean perch]

whats your most memorable ost ?

like not from x33

i mean in general

which game

[buoyant lynx]

expdition 33 has an OST that if you hear a song

you will remember exactly where it came from

which is extremely rare in games nowdays

[daring portal]

its only good and best but it does hit the right note with the vibe

the most I like is || reniore fight || act 2 boss near the end

[buoyant lynx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YifTqomTZ_w

like come on

you're gonna tell me you're not gonna remember exactly where this shit comes from?

[daring portal]

tell me

[tawdry shard]

tell me

[nimble sky]

Ur all sleeping on the gestral music

[severe lance]

|| https://fixvx.com/TheCartelDel/status/1922354487529742618 ||

Del (@TheCartelDel)

The original Expedition33 trailer that was used to find voice actors shows what "fine, I'll just make my own JRPG" really looks like when you start.

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · May 13, 2025, 6:13 PM

lidl expedition

[daring portal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e57JN5V6NbM

[tawdry shard]

man this is amazing

[brisk apex]

Holy.

||Wasn't even Stendhal. Got lvl 3 gradient turn 1 and used Gommage||

[raven charm]

||Gommage is over 3 times Stendhal dmg||

[brisk apex]

Well, considering the difference in resources, it should.

[raven charm]

ye agree

[misty linden]

Baldge

[buoyant lynx]

"maelle isn't OP"

[brisk apex]

||Sky breaker probably has similar numbers and is AoE. But Lune's weapon isn't 33 yet. However, Void can't be resisted, absorbed nor negated so there's that||

[raven charm]

||Sky = 4k% mult, Gommage = 5k%, more than enough, unnerfed Stendhal was 2.5k% and that was already insane||

[brisk apex]

I don't think an AoE move should do more damage than a single target move that has the same resource reqs so I'm fine with those numbers

Especially since there's several ||tanky ass multi-boss fights in endless tower||

Wait, ||Sky Break does void if you have no stains||

It's very competitive then

[tawdry shard]

COME GET SOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[tawdry shard]

one day

I'll reach it

[ocean perch]

||https://youtu.be/YBMu9n49_S0?si=uv7au6sJji9VsZfu||

[tawdry shard]

[tawdry shard]

going to sleep

play more tomorrow

[misty linden]

bro my pc can't handle a certain fight

it was so hard to see and parry everything

cool fight, act 3 spoiler

probably would have enjoyed it more if my game didn't drop below 20 fps this fight

[ocean perch]

ye this game needs good fps or u kinda cooked with parry or dodge

or just outspeed everyone and one shot

[misty linden]

It's just that fight in particular that cooks my pc

[tawdry shard]

rip

time to upgrade

[brisk apex]

||Expert Diff Simon down. Get the fuck outta my canvas ||

[buoyant lynx]

now do him with parry only like a real man

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBMu9n49_S0||

[brisk apex]

Nah, I'm good.

However, with ||Simoso||, you can just solo him while taking damage every turn

[indigo dove]

is gradient parry extremely forgiving?

[buoyant lynx]

no they're just easier because time slows down

[indigo dove]

I see

fought the first 3 mobs and I was like no way im hitting those gradient parries

[buoyant lynx]

The first few you fight you can basically hit gradient parry as soon as it happens

but later in the game most characters will be in the air and you do the parry as soon as they start moving downwards

[indigo dove]

[buoyant lynx]

Of course a lot of them are basically just 1 time "gotcha" becuase you'll react with a regular parry before the screen goes black and then you dont have time to gradient

[brisk apex]

This isn't the only reason. The window is noticeably bigger

Sometimes I just spam rt and get it

Or parry early and still get it

[brisk apex]

||When you're with Maelle solo?||

[indigo dove]

||forgotten battlegrounds area||

[indigo dove]

||bro this dualiste boss is fun||

[brisk apex]

Yeah, he's also my favorite boss

[indigo dove]

did him 3rd try

sound cue just gives it too much

[lyric elk]

i bought a new amp for my speaker setup just so i can blast this games OST better no cap

this goes down with nier automata as top 3 OSTs of all time

[stoic grove]

What's your top 3

[hoary plover]

pretty asf

[slim loom]

just like you 😳

[wide pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-93WTWFF-Hg?feature=share

[ocean perch]

||honestly i think its possible to figure out from start we just in painting because how crazy that world looks there literally flying in air lanters and the whole world just looks weird but beatiful like if someone put their imagination going wild just like painters ||

[wide pagoda]

[daring portal]

this game is a piece of art

[buoyant lynx]

yeah but 3 jp people said final fantasy 4 has a better story so therefore it's actually just overrated trash

[daring portal]

that only 3 peoples are western journalist who make the fuck up for clicks

only idiot hato and asmon viewers would keep clicking those links

[stable spear]

bro sciel fucks

[buoyant lynx]

he doesn't know

[ocean perch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeuzXxvhtGg he speaking facts at start dont watch whole thing

[ocean perch]

whats that ? ads ?

[hoary plover]

yes

[ocean perch]

dafuq

[tawdry shard]

Should I swap out Gustave for Sciel?

I feel like

Gustave is garbo

It would be Sciel, June, and Maelle or whatever her name is in a party

[buoyant lynx]

june?

who the fuck is june

you retarded rat

[swift fiber]

[daring portal]

who is june @tawdry shard ?

I only known july

[brisk apex]

She's definitely the best character in act 1 and it's not close imo.

That changes very quickly, though.

[stable spear]

I need to put gambler on everyone before I forget

It's the only reason I'm hitting my current damage cap

[brisk apex]

As far as dps goes, act 1: sciel. Act 2: ||Tied between Verso and Sciel because you can't break damage cap and they have access to the highest multi hits.||. Act 3: Maelle and it's not close imo.

[brisk apex]

Wouldn't recommend this but you do you.

[hollow sail]

Technically gambler is 25% more damage on avg right? If you're far below cap or can bust through the cap later

[stable spear]

Statistically yeah its more damage

and I'm a gambling man

the hit is what I live for

[raven charm]

Objection

[stable spear]

[raven charm]

Lune ||Storm Caller||

[tawdry shard]

Forgot her name

Yea Lune

[buoyant lynx]

sciels dark path or whateve rit's called that hits like 8 times

love that move

and the card one that applies an extra foretell per crit

[brisk apex]

You mean Lightning Dance, no? That is technically the most hits without gradient but you're not hitting crit cap that early, I don't think.

[buoyant lynx]

both look so good

still best move in teh gaem is overcharge

[raven charm]

Storm Caller makes every hit from the entire team trigger a lightning hit

[buoyant lynx]

FOR THOSE WHO COME AFTER

[brisk apex]

Oh, the last move in the lightning tree

Gonna be honest, never used it

[buoyant lynx]

it's not good late game

the extra damage hits are pitiful

[brisk apex]

Of course not, but I can see why it'd be good before act 3

[buoyant lynx]

at least from when i tried

[raven charm]

good early to ignore dmg cap, good late when u get ||the weapon from her side area||

||that makes every crit trigger burn||

[brisk apex]

I'd rather use the weapon that lets you charge to lvl 3 gradient in 1 turn

Machine gun Lune

[buoyant lynx]

i will say for as bad as the balance is at endgame as far as enemies

at least you can pretty much make everyone in the party really OP

[brisk apex]

The devs didn't care about balance in the endgame, and honestly, I agree with that decision

At that point, you've earned the right

[buoyant lynx]

I'd agree. I think trying to balance endgame when the gap between decent optimized builds, and regular joe schmoe builds is enormous that you're better off on the lower side

than the higher side

esepcially given some of the combos late game enemies do

[brisk apex]

Late game enemies start playing Tekken if you give them a turn

Fuck that

[raven charm]

||making the enemy have 4 digits burn and use that maele skill that scales with burn on target feels so good tho||

[buoyant lynx]

There's not a lot of joy for me personally in "aspirational content" if i just look up a build online

i didn't do the content, i just followed someone elses shit

[brisk apex]

Not saying burn builds suck, obviously. I just like spamming lvl 3s

[buoyant lynx]

I do hope they bring in bonfire aesthetics or something

so we can refight bosses

just for the fun of it

[brisk apex]

Also, I'm doing ng+ with solo Gustave

[buoyant lynx]

I think the game is terribly balanced in favor of solo runs until really late a3

the pictos for being solo are just so overwhelmingly strong it's ridiculous

[brisk apex]

I learned recently that the ones that apply rush and powerful only last 3 turns

I thought it was always up as long as you're solo

I think the crit one is bugged for me

[buoyant lynx]

well cause most fights only last 3 turns solo

[brisk apex]

I agree. However, I think it's pretty easy to find the one-shot build without a guide

[buoyant lynx]

I'm gonna become ongbal and do a parry only run

[brisk apex]

The very first time I used ||Gommage||, it had no set up and still did insane damage

So then I was like

"How high can it really go?"

[brisk apex]

I don't think this is a matter of "can you do it" but more "do you have the time?"

[buoyant lynx]

There are some pretty easy fights where my brain just goes full fucking retard

and i cannot parry

[indigo dove]

time for expedition no more exams

[buoyant lynx]

and then other fights that have huge multi hits and i just hit them it's honestly hilarious

[stable spear]

theres that parry picto i just got too

that im gonna put on everyone too

+1 ap and take more damage

[brisk apex]

lol

[buoyant lynx]

you should use the other one

parry doesn't give AP

but you get ap on taking damage

[stable spear]

LMAO

[brisk apex]

Well, if you're on expert, you get one shot anyway

[stable spear]

i am

and ive only been parrying

i dont know how to dodge

[buoyant lynx]

you can actually do a pretty clowny build with maelle

i've been watching soda

and he facetanks

it's honestly hilarious how dogshit his damage is

[brisk apex]

Personally, I still would spend pictos on damage instead

Especially counter attack damage

If you're only parrying

[stable spear]

i do

not like i have many currently

[buoyant lynx]

counters easily hit damage cap

[raven charm]

Didn't see but I can imagine, defensive stance + shell + that one picto ||that gives dr in exchange of not being able to heal||

[buoyant lynx]

He's not even using that picto. He's just perma defensive stance using the skill that lets her take damage in palce of other people + shell i think

i haven't watched in a while

watching him fight the titty

[brisk apex]

Maelle is the only character that can effectively tank

Which is funny because she's also the best dps

[raven charm]

She's the only one that can taunt so it makes sense

[stable spear]

thats hilarious

[buoyant lynx]

he uses that skill that lets her go a second turn if they're marked or whatever it is

defenseless?

so he can rotate back into defensive stance

[stable spear]

yea

[indigo dove]

maelle stronger than sciel?

[buoyant lynx]

late game yes

[indigo dove]

ah late game

[buoyant lynx]

but you can make really good builds with everyone

[brisk apex]

The shield break skill. I like that move.

[raven charm]

oh ye there's one picto that makes marked enemies deal less dmg

[buoyant lynx]

no there's anotehr one

not the shield break one

[indigo dove]

||just got monoco||

[buoyant lynx]

oh maybe it is it

i thought there was another

breaking rules

[raven charm]

||feet guy ||

[buoyant lynx]

||monoco is actually versos pet dog||

don't click if you haven't gotten to the end of the game

||all gestrals are actually dogs||

[indigo dove]

||do I need monoco to be in the party to harvest skills?||

[buoyant lynx]

||and the feet are just bones for dogs||

[buoyant lynx]

yes

you cannot get them without him

[raven charm]

||noco is his dog too||

[indigo dove]

[brisk apex]

Personally, in terms of overall character strength, I rate Sciel higher than Maelle because of how much she enables the rest of your team, especially with the ||Litheson weapon||, Intervention, ||Doom||, the double damage skill, etc. She's not beating Maelle in damage post act 3, though.

[indigo dove]

||that last bit between monoco and verso ||

[nimble sky]

She technically could but she just needs a lot of turns

[buoyant lynx]

he's not even done with a2

he has no idea what half of you just said is

[nimble sky]

I use sciel for every act she went from main dps to support

[indigo dove]

did you guys explore the other areas? or explore them when they happen to be in your path

I mean dungeon for the areas

[buoyant lynx]

i explored as i unlocked new shit

so i went around the map like 30 x

because i kept getting new ways to do things

[raven charm]

Sciel was in the bench every act

[brisk apex]

Woops. I spoilered what he doesn't have access to but he has the rest

[indigo dove]

i normally just explore the stuff if it happens to be along the way

[nimble sky]

I benched lune cause her weapons were not that exciting to me

[indigo dove]

but now, im more inclined to explore them

[buoyant lynx]

i benched lune because feet are disgusting

[indigo dove]

with the new guy i got

[buoyant lynx]

esquie should have been playable

[indigo dove]

the only one that I liked was the free aim = stain weapon

[buoyant lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/esquie-clair-obscur-expedition-33-clair-obscur-expedition-33-my-beloved-gif-9811085869863892510

[raven charm]

enter (act 3 weapon)