#Duet Night Abyss
iron walrus
iron walrus
@wraith quest 
fossil nest
lunarians
iron walrus
wraith quest
<@236713043260735488> <:fricc:1103293288531906610>
vital token
wraith igloo
hopefully this game delivers!
trail temple
peak sparrow
New gacherinos!!! 
vital token
WEH
iron walrus
tropic moth
1
spark verge
pogo
tropic moth
vital token
iron walrus
@slate current get your ass in here and tell me its not genshit 2.0
I can start playing in about 6 hours
slate current
its genshit 2.0
minor furnace
@iron walrus 
minor furnace
i think he's more referring to the gacha and dupe system
cyan mason
slate current
Do you actually have to collect mint and shit?
not sure, theres like mats on the ground you grab
but idk if its for items
increasing level cap item was from orokin vault for 20 to 30
if everything i need is from vault maybe ill play on launch
mintpicking is fucking stupid and i dont wanna do it
tropic moth
playing the game normally gives forging mats it seems
minor furnace
ok i can also alrdy tell the bullet jump is giga scuffed
iron walrus
Its still beta they can adjust that but miss me with that genshit gameplay
minor furnace
i mean i've had this complaint since they showed the early alpha gameplay and then ppl were like "it's still alpha", i don't think it's gonna get changed now
cyan mason
slate current
yeah its not as smooth as warframe unfortunately
if you time it correctly being able to giga spam slam melee is funny tho
minor furnace
warframe, especially back at its start was never AAA
and still felt smooth more than a decade ago to paly
i don't rly think it's a big complaint to want a game to feel as smooth as the game it obviously tried to copy more than 10 years later
tropic moth
Idk warframe 1.0
Was horrible
It took years for it to develop
btw finished beta story
It's really good im impressed
Side quests do be lacking
minor furnace
oh no dont' get me wrong, warframe 1.0 sucked, had horrible melee too
but movement was still smooth
i think this game's melee might still end up better than warframe's too, it's not all bad, warframe's melee 2.0 still isn't great
but still movement is obviously rly important as everything in this game will involve movement so i wish it was a lot better
trail temple
ok i can also alrdy tell the bullet jump is giga scuffed
Pls tell me it's slower than sprinting
minor furnace
Pls tell me it's slower than sprinting
no it's not that bad lol
trail temple
shite
Always hated that on warframe
bullet jump should only be good to move vertically
minor furnace
well then it's worse here cuz at least in warframe you still have the sense of speed behind it
here you don't rly feel it so you're still forced to use it but it doesn't feel good
vertical bullet jump does seem good though
cyan mason
(it's doa)
minor furnace
it's a win win for the haters, cuz if siki likes it, business as usual, nothing rly changes, but if he dislikes it then it's so joever
iron walrus
well im 10 minutes into the game and my genshit radar is flaring up
minor furnace
uh oh
iron walrus
like Im already getting ptsd
iron walrus
weapon behind you like genshit
open world collectible items
more chests different lvls
minor furnace
so uh, are you despairing yet siki?
iron walrus
character models disappearing if you zoom in to far
MANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
its literally the wuwa situationb
good combat thats it
otherwise its 90% genshit
minor furnace
how do all the games you bat like crazy end up like this 
iron walrus
let me mald a bit more after that we can close this channel
fake promises
and maybe copium
we thought it was instance based from what we have seen earlier
minor furnace
siki's seal of hype is 2 for 2 on huge Ls so far 
minor furnace
i'll play the game myself and shit on it when it's out 
i'm alrdy basically prepared for it to be a hugely watered down warframe with worse monetization system anyway
iron walrus
they even yoinked the name for air element from genshit
minor furnace
i mean let's be real them yoinking stuff from anything is the least surprising thing lol
iirc they even just copy pasted the mc's sword from yoko taro's drakengard 3
it's rly not subtle lol
iron walrus
alright I think I played enough
tldr same situation as wuwa with worse combat
wuwa is better and more flashy
minor furnace
you didn't even last an hour damn
iron walrus
warframe combat doesnt carry
yeah its doa
move along
genshin ssr rates after you get the rate up for the first time
90 hard pity
ITS LITERALLY GENSHIT BANNER
but one freebie
minor furnace
apparently a second passive is locked behind like a third dupe so
at least on some characters
trail temple
No way of obtaining a dupe by grinding?
slate current
apparently you can craft 5* wp
minor furnace
only the standard ones right?
slate current
unsure
cyan mason
imma be honest siki
no point playing anything this year besides ananta, nte, and endfield
you just have to consume the open world slop
minor furnace
gachas are doomed
cyan mason
just stick to nikke
iron walrus
I still got nikke/snobble/gfl
slate current
enfield
iron walrus
slate current
not even
cyan mason
nikke is the best gacha ever made
iron walrus
WHY ARE YOU NOT PLAYING THEN
minor furnace
that one enfield chick everyone posts is pretty cool design + drip wise, though i don't fuck with the tail
but it's not enough to convince me to try enfield yet
cyan mason
minor furnace
no cinderella, no red hood, no rapi, no sbs, he's doomed
iron walrus
I dont even know if nte is gonna make it
minor furnace
bro nte is not it
slate current
nte looks kinda dank but idk if i can deal with open world nonsense
cyan mason
slate current
i hate "open world exploration" in gachas
iron walrus
minor furnace
it looks scuffed, it's made by scuffed devs and it was announced and compared to ananta which has looked so much better in trailers and whatever look we've gotten
cyan mason
I don't even care if ananta looks better
whatever comes first
is what I will stick to
minor furnace
i might try ananta cuz of spiderman swinging and that one hot maid
iron walrus
and its gonna be genshit all over again
minor furnace
if the spiderman swinging feels nice and there's not some stupid limit on i might actually play it
but it's a gacha so expectations are rly low
iron walrus
out of all the open world slop games anata looks the most promising so far
why play nte when you got anata
and the arknights frog gonna play enfield regardless
minor furnace
everyone alrdy forgot about azur promilia too
minor furnace
he's gaming 
minor furnace
you'd probably play dna cuz of the "potential"
in that you look at warframe and you think "wow, maybe with some time, dna could be like that"
iron walrus
man
I dont want to hype gachas anymore
but maybe the gacha game from the e7 devs is something
chaos something
tropic moth
the chinese game formula does take time yea
yoink a game, then improve on it and add your unique touch with time
minor furnace
but maybe the gacha game from the e7 devs is something
are you so down bad that you hype up chibis now?
you are so fucking cooked bro
iron walrus
its chibi shit?
minor furnace
yeah e7 new game has chibis, that's why everyone was alrdy disappointed
slate current
id sooner play a SE gacha than a fucking shitgate game
iron walrus
because one friend from another cord is a big e7 shill
and he said its the next best huge gacha
minor furnace
e7 shills are untrustworthy
iron walrus
he is a chill dude
minor furnace
he might be a chill dude but he's still untrustworthy
cyan mason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nydDSWNwMA
really
is this what the e7 devs worked on?
minor furnace
that is supercreative yes
iron walrus
cooked
well
nothing good until anata > gonna try it out > open world genshit copy with some extras > quit
peak sparrow
we thought it was instance based from what we have seen earlier
Are u dumb
It was 100% clear an open world
wraith quest
so how's it going
peak sparrow
game looks good for me
prolly gonna play it a lot when it comes out, maybe add it to gacha rotation depending on how quick dailies are
tropic moth
think im highest leveled acc ok beta rn
Refreshed 20 times, and farmed the non-stamina stages a lot
Im having so much fun
slate current
the question is how much open world is mandatory
once for MSQ updates i think ok
but i aint mintpicking
slate current
@tropic moth which char has like
the best aoe or cleave
rateup chick doesnt seem that good for wave clearing
tropic moth
It's not open world, it's like HSR
The amount of chests is few
Ores and flowers are only for colors or cosmetics, domain stages drop everything else
tropic moth
The echoes (yes like wuwa) can be found and captured, they are for their passive
tropic moth
fossil nest
wadahek y am i in here
harsh marsh
trail temple
bitter sinew
Looking at the character art in the dialogue box and then the actual character 3d model...
shi looks cheap
patent pivot
But the 3d models! Production value not 2d!!!
harsh marsh
soundtrack aint bad
bitter sinew
soundtrack aint bad
yeah
it does feel like a oldie jrpg
maybe because the game textures are pretty shitty
like 480p in 2025 is crazy
woeful plinth
game is okay i guess
but playing cutscenes on auto is so trash
theres just long pauses between dialogue
raven mason
patent pivot
Oldie jrpg is good vibes okayge
woeful plinth
and then other times you auto and the dialogue just moves through too quickly
bitter sinew
the moment i got the gun i don't think i ever did a melee attack
woeful plinth
i assume so
patent pivot
British paimon 
patent pivot
I can't stand CN VA considering how real Chinese girls speak 
woeful plinth
why do you want me to do that huh
round pulsar
Paimon 
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wraith igloo
erm #gaming-discussion ๐ค โ๏ธ
round pulsar
woeful plinth
erm well ackshually there is costume gacha so ๐ค
harsh marsh
trail temple
just get a job
round pulsar
Do we get a free 50 dollar character or are we stuck on this jobber
keen ibex
im just starting rn
is it really just warframe
like can u actually just farm anything as u wish
woeful plinth
seems so
keen ibex
thats pretty good then
if its legit just warframe and u can farm anything for free than the game's gonna do well
warframe is grindy as fuck anyway and people still play
rain drift
so they didnt release it on steam yet huh lol
woeful plinth
without skipping it feels very typical mmo jrpg
where you go through the intro
and then its a lot of introductions in the town
to introduce systems
i dont hate it
patent pivot
Hmm feels like I'm gonna enjoy for the moment and see how it goes kind of game
woeful plinth
pretty much
there are dialogue cohices that give you social stats
that are meant to unlock things
but not far enough to see
rain drift
oh yeah?
combat makes or breaks this game tbh
surprised baldy aint on this
he on league instead
hopefully story isnt just a yap fest i wanna blast through this shit
heard i need to be lvl 40 to start doing the real shit
bitter sinew
i will keep doing to story maybe that is enough to play it
woeful plinth
hopefully story isnt just a yap fest i wanna blast through this shit
i think its going to be a yapfest sort of game
bitter sinew
Gonna dump all the resources into one character
rain drift
ima just skip it but hopefully it quick
yeah thats what u should do
ppl recommend doing that with MC or berenica
bitter sinew
tbh i will just do it bcuz that the only characters I know. Leveling up a character that is not even introduced in the story is weird
rain drift
theres 19 of em i hear
im just curious if theres anyone whos super litty to play cuz we aint seen most of them
trail temple
gonna go for the tentacle girl first
patent pivot
Gameplay good?
woeful plinth
i wouldnt say its great
if you want a jrpg-ish adventure but with warframe style gameplay then this is it
keen ibex
feels like warframe minus 2 abillities which is not great but its a moible game so
bitter sinew
Gameplay good?
it feels mobile
bitter sinew
if you play it in your phone it might be better
patent pivot
Apparently people are bitching they can't play on phones
woeful plinth
i'll give it a few days of play before I decide on the game
bitter sinew
gonna install it on my phone, i have some free time at work so it might be enough
patent pivot
Well it's free so I'm gonna give it a try playing bootleg hutao
keen ibex
i do like the insane amount of mobility tho 
no running out of stamina sprinting around the city
rain drift
this game isnt like wuwa or genshin is it ? where we have to explore the world to find random bullshit?
keen ibex
Well it's free so I'm gonna give it a try playing bootleg hutao
miner girl is peak
keen ibex
this game isnt like wuwa or genshin is it ? where we have to explore the world t...
no clue
woeful plinth
this game isnt like wuwa or genshin is it ? where we have to explore the world t...
cant say
woeful plinth
we're all too early to say
rain drift
well for getting characters in this we have a daily cap of 15 runs iirc
keen ibex
if the chinese bros really copied warframe 1:1
rain drift
unless theres a new way 2 get more
keen ibex
it will have picking stuff up from maps
bitter sinew
Apparently people are bitching they can't play on phones <:kek:10925988984906137...
like why? the game doesn't even look like 50% of how wuwa looks, it should need a really good phone to run it
keen ibex
tbf
rain drift
fuck em
trail temple
like why? the game doesn't even look like 50% of how wuwa looks, it should need ...
mob density seems high
trail temple
and tentacle girl can have like 30 minions
bitter sinew
i think it does look good to me, idk why it would be a standard of "good looking"
well tbh i just play mostly indie games, my bar is really low
patent pivot
wuwa looks good to me tbh
woeful plinth
if your bar was really low, you'd consider this game to be okay looking
your bar actually seems somewhat high
bitter sinew
if your bar was really low, you'd consider this game to be okay looking
having 480p textures on pc in 2025 is crazy tho
woeful plinth
i haven't noticed but i also ahvent been paying too close attention, i think the game looks like a AA jrpg
kinda trash
keen ibex
if people are already bitching about mobile not working due to mob density
patent pivot
I also like Stella Sora and czn which genshin bros say low effort models though
woeful plinth
but not too trash to drop it
patent pivot
i haven't noticed but i also ahvent been paying too close attention, i think the...
Xbox 360 jrpg vibe is peak tbh
patent pivot
wraith igloo
i haven't noticed but i also ahvent been paying too close attention, i think the...
scarlet nexus ty shi
patent pivot
I still haven't finished vesperia on 2025 yet 
bitter sinew
maybe changing some settings on the files will make it looks good, no way the game just have that low res, surely higher quality is there
wraith igloo
I still haven't finished vesperia on 2025 yet <:Stroneg:843956916425064448>
dw bud me too dropped it half way back in 2023
bitter sinew
then again, at least the performance is not bad, the cost is the quality but could be worse
today most games day 1 are a mess
expected to have a lot of patches tomorrow or in a few days, fixing a lot of bugs
keen ibex
i just want
latex boob pistol lady
give NOW
or big tiddy red demon
that works as well
wraith igloo
one thing ill say is i like the music hopefully it does not fall off later 
woeful plinth
you'll be able to switch to her character
but shes not present in the story its just your character
until we find her I guess
rain drift
i mean i cant use her
rain drift
i see
looks like i was right too
60 bucks or so for a character
damn weapons are 40 bucks too
holy smokes
slate current
Guild in other game
rain drift
o
slate current
You basically have to do msq for like 2-3 hour
rain drift
yeah
slate current
Before the actual game opens up
rain drift
are u lvl 40
slate current
No i just got 26
slate current
It depends on the char iirc
rain drift
either way blasting msq prob best
get shit over with
oh
christmas costumes are a dollar huh
light saber 2 lol
i might buy those
woeful plinth
so it seems like how it works to unlock characters is
you get their specific secret letter
and then have to do covert comms
that reset every hour
so you're timegated hourly
woeful plinth
I see
rain drift
im wondering if this gets u ANY weapon
rain drift
oh no its just some basic shit hmm
for a dollar tho? i might lol
grab this the light saber and santa skin
woeful plinth
i'll play a bit more later but I think its an okay game
nothing groundbreaking
it feels nice that I can treat it more like a warframe style jrpg
but also nothing seems that hard playing the main story yet
bitter sinew
I tried the game on my phone, shi don't run even at 30 fps 
rain drift
bro wtf do i do with these things lol
woeful plinth
no idea i skipped them
woeful plinth
skill issue 
scenic sedge
Is this game literally just like Genshin??โฆ
rain drift
i saw ppl re rolling for the skin lol
wondering if this works with the light saber skin
its a katana the skin says sword but a katana is a sword so idfk
yo wtf man
first try
of course they give it virgil animationslol
santa is a dollar too i might buy this lol
i wonder how impactful the battle pass is in this game
psyche feels weird
did her trial
the like her damage skill making clones feels so clunky compared to just doing damage like a normal skill
rain drift
well sure
wraith igloo
when do u unlock 5 star character 
rain drift
but her skill feels like dog shit
slate current
Idk what the clone shit does tbh
rain drift
when do u unlock 5 star character <:Bedge:826767574766583859>
at 40 u can start farming
slate current
Never really press it
slate current
Just ult spam better feels like
rain drift
i bought the 1 dollar weapon for berenica tho using her for awhile i think
slate current
In the first fight i rammed psyche
rain drift
i did get psyche skin tho so maybe i'll farm her
slate current
And the hog multihit and hit every part
The ICD on how often you can ram someone and do damage kinda blows
Cant just ram stunlock
wraith igloo
at 40 u can start farming
is it a long grind
slate current
Jellyfish girl seems good
AI knows how to just place turret and camp it out
For bossing probably not as good
rain drift
shes the afk farmer apparently
slate current
gonan save my letters for jelly fish and lynn probably
sot he limited banner is what
rate up psyche blue skin?
i might hold my rainbow things and spin the white ones
rain drift
i got the skin but idk if ima make her or not yet but its nice to have ig
uhh idk
i did check the skins on that 1 dont seem that crazy or nuttin
rain drift
hrm
slate current
click paypal and system error
slate current
thats different than google play right
woeful plinth
just three lines of dialogue with no VA
quality
in the middle of a voiced cutscene
wraith igloo
||the 2nd mc is so much cooler lol||
woeful plinth
i feel like I just got spoiled
rain drift
is she hot
wraith igloo
yes
rain drift
show nao
rain drift
im 26 now i was doing side quests in the first town
slate current
i like it cuz i dont need to level weapons
wraith igloo
rain drift
my question fo rthis game would be
once ur done ur 15 like character fragment farm runs for the day
what else can u even do in the game thats worth while
slate current
my MSQ is softlocked or something
it puts you in a new instance for an extended MSQ but this shit gets bricked
rain drift
oh u mean ur shit is fucked?
obvious but have u tried relogging ?
my navigate wasnt working earlier either i had to relog
slate current
its softlocked
completely
its not navigation thats broken the objecitve just doesnt exist
you can get just far enough to get daphne for free
thats about it
rain drift
wonder if this is a you thing or everyone has this
rain drift
ok good
that means MAYBE if they arnt full of shit they will get on this pre quick
are you just doing side stuff now then?
slate current
did a bit and got off for now
plan to get some ppl to 30
and do side quest while this get fix
cuz outside of MSQ the TR exp is rpetty bad for most shit it feels like
rain drift
any statement or acknowledgment of this... bug? i guess
slate current
the official discord is like
not even moderated
people are constantly off topic in game discussion
slate current
i relogged and i got locked in the same spot
where is the thing supposed to be
mines still softlocked
i get some stupid error
"incorrect subregion in baseregionID"
like i dont even need to open that door to get in the room but i cant trigger the next quest cuz of it
slate current
ill try verifying
honestly if it works for you guys
what i need is someone to log onto my account and just get me past that area
wait
verifying fixed it
game is playable
rain drift
rain drift
codes btw
if u fellas havent seen
i might actually use secret letters to farm a better weapon instead right now
hmm
dont see this wep on the farming list tho
i hope this isnt a paid only weapon that would be really fucking bad
sturdy tendon
woeful plinth
okay i unlocked chat mode
but i guess i'll just fuck around doing side stuff/level up
if MSQ is bugged later on
rain drift
seems its fine
patent pivot
Alright time to download
trail temple
just looted again the item necessary to skip forging here, so I guess it respawns daily, warframe could never 
rain drift
hell ya boy we fishing
rain drift
game honestly way better than i thought it would be
changing it from a gacha was such a good move
minor furnace
so far been kinda mid tbh, only 2 skills per character is so ass and the movement is still rly janky compared to warframe
and of course while it does make sense it would, it does just feel like a gacha game that had its gacha stripped out of it moreso than just anime warframe
rain drift
need to see the end game loop to comment on that
if it devolves into doing a handful of runs a day and then ur left with nothing else to do then its a problem
also curious if theres like real bosses or raids to do since it is co op
visually tho id say the game looks pre good
minor furnace
visually yeah i have no issues with the game
my issues are that it both feels and plays much, muuuch clunkier than warframe while also making me do random ass chores and sidequests in towns instead of what actually makes warframe fun to play
rain drift
comparing it to WF like gameplay n shit was never the thing
only coloration is u can farm characters
minor furnace
if they didn't want ppl to compare it to warframe then they probably shouldn't have straight up copied abilities, movement (although worse) and a ton of other stuff from warframe
but they did so ppl are gonna compare it to warframe
if they didn't want ppl to compare it to warframe then they probably should've tried their best to snuff out the "oh this game is just weebframe" comments you saw essentially everywhere, but they didn't do that either because they did want to make an anime warframe
they did try their best with the movement at least, but it still feels as janky as it did last alpha which was more than a year ago
rain drift
for now the game seems quite good BUT im not done MSQ yet and havent seen current end game
minor furnace
so pretty disappointing they never improved it
rain drift
once i see the loop i'll be able to determine if the games worth spending time on or not
minor furnace
yeah i just hope it won't take too long to do the msq
rain drift
if there is no like co op bosses or raids tho then i will be disappointed
minor furnace
and hopefully the fun stuff is actually there but that just kinda sounds like me coping
i'm honestly rly disappointed every character only has 2 skills and a passive though
that barely even works when a game is team based 
bitter sinew
the duality of shadows
rain drift
im kind of fine with it rn but we'll see how it progress
little zealot
I miss siki
bitter sinew
the weapon is so far away from the body
patent pivot
so everyone's attack string is the same ig?
minor furnace
they're just based on the weapon no?
minor furnace
maybe they'll introduce stances later for different strings if they don't ahve that somewhere later
patent pivot
strawb was right i was just testing the intro and it does feel like a janky jrpg which is fun, but yeah end game remains to be seen
anyone tested grinding for characters yet?
minor furnace
strawb was right i was just testing the intro and it does feel like a janky jrpg...
to me it feels like just a 3d gacha game, quest structure, puzzles for chests, the ui, daily missions, bp, the character exp/weapon exp/gold stages etc
which again, obviously makes sense cuz that's how this game was designed at the beginning before they just cut the gacha out
shrewd dagger
is it me or is there no hit reg
patent pivot
to me it feels like just a 3d gacha game, quest structure, puzzles for chests, t...
Honestly at some point I did feel, I kinda wanna login to wuwa instead
But I'll finish the main story first at least
patent pivot
Can we keybind aim separate from shoot btw lol
minor furnace
is it me or is there no hit reg
been a common complaint i hear that tthere's very little if no hit reg yeah
trail temple
so far been kinda mid tbh, only 2 skills per character is so ass and the movemen...
bullet jump only being good to move vertically automatically makes the movement better than warframe for me
bitter sinew
its me or the combat has like ZERO impact?
trail temple
I absolutely hated spamming bullet jump in wf
bitter sinew
at least a screen shake idk
little zealot
its me or the combat has like ZERO impact?
jenazad said depend on the weapon
some weapon have no impact
minor furnace
bullet jump only being good to move vertically automatically makes the movement ...
i want to move fast though
bitter sinew
time to play with heavy weapons maybe
minor furnace
bullet jump stopping momentum just makes it feel so slow and clunky
bitter sinew
I would say the whole movement is clunky
minor furnace
and in the end i'm still spamming bullet jump in this game
trail temple
i want to move fast though <:Sadge:916414666887037038>
I remember one of the devs, Pablo, years ago talking about how he would nerf the shit of bullet jump if it was up to him 
minor furnace
I remember one of the devs, Pablo, years ago talking about how he would nerf the...
hey even without bullet jump, dodge rolling also provides tons of forward momentum so i'd still be chilling
shrewd dagger
been a common complaint i hear that tthere's very little if no hit reg yeah
probably the most basic action combat mechanic, why tf aint there any
new indie devs
rain drift
really like how u see ppl in over world now
trail temple
i want to move fast though <:Sadge:916414666887037038>
testing pig girl and she move fast as fuck, like Gauss
rain drift
does co op have hella issues?
cobalt terraceBOT
@rain drift has leveled up! (65 โ 66)
rain drift
my shit freezes every time
minor furnace
testing pig girl and she move fast as fuck, like Gauss
does str hella increase her mspd or something cuz otherwise comparing her to gauss seems a bit uh, in favour of gauss
trail temple
does str hella increase her mspd or something cuz otherwise comparing her to gau...
did u try charging when mounted?
minor furnace
oh yeah i see what you mean now
damn am i gonna have to be a phoebe main to get through the main story
now i needa way to get some actual sanity going
i only have the 18% skill efficiency thing on so everything's still mad expensive
woeful plinth
even though the production value of this game is worse in every way, I would say this is a better representation of a jrpg than wuwa
based on only the first chapter, which story wise I don't think was that good either
i haven't done too much of the main game systems and char prog but as someone who didnt play warframe i think its just okay
I do get the impression that if I played warframe I'd be a hater
woeful plinth
even though the production value of this game is worse in every way, I would say...
actually, not every way. I would say the gameplay if you're only focusing on the main story is too easy
even when they tell you 'be prepared' its too easy
rain drift
yeah im on 3 now i did some co op stuff to farm mats to level up
me and my wep are both 50 atm
woeful plinth
i leveled a random character to 30 and their weapons to 20 when I was told to level up because 'hard'
woeful plinth
i havent even gotten to that part of the game yet just focusing on main story to see how it is
rain drift
i leveled rebecca a tiny bit shes 20 now but not using much mats on others atm
woeful plinth
her skill is so shit I dont know how devs think its okay
her ult is okay I guess
maybe there are mods that make her skill decent I haven't checked at all
minor furnace
i'm assuming she used to be a 4* back when there was a gacha and they didn't rebalance her properly
woeful plinth
honestly as it stands the game doesnt seem worth collecting like in TFD or I assume warframe
but i'll give it a good look over the next few days
minor furnace
hard to say, if dupes are supposed to be the big pull, then i don't think i'm gonna get pulled in
woeful plinth
i do like the cosmetics more in here than in TFD
minor furnace
otherwise i just feel so much more underwhelmed by the character's gameplay itself because they rly just only have 2 active skills and a passive
and i feel like most of the character's non ultimate active skill is kinda just throwaway ability
or well most of the ones i played
rain drift
berenica's is pretty good
woeful plinth
right now I would treat this as a story focused game for me
rain drift
psyche's skill 1 is fucking stupid tho idk who designed that
minor furnace
it's basically just a dash that does a little dmg right?
rain drift
it makes a clone
and the clone explodes after u reactivate it or something
idk its clunky af
minor furnace
ngl i'm sideeying the clone part because she's the literal flying character
wtf is a clone in the air gonna do
rain drift
shed be hella good with a sanity regen build and blah blah
minor furnace
she's just titania from warframe basically
which is neat cuz i like titania
but i have no idea how the end game sanity economy works so i have no idea if an infinite ult build is even possible
or well a good one of course that doesn't need to sacrifice too much damage to achieve it
woeful plinth
but i have no idea how the end game sanity economy works so i have no idea if an...
i dont even nkow if you have to think that hard in this game
minor furnace
i mean that's the fun in these kinds of games
optimizing your own character
even if the content isn't worth optimizing for
woeful plinth
yeah we'll see
i think there needs to be an appropriate level of difficulty to make it worth doing
even TFD now has things that you have to work somewhat on your build to be decent
but I need to actually see what works near the end
in this game
rain drift
done
minor furnace
well now what? 
trail temple
her skill is so shit I dont know how devs think its okay
Depending on how much +% skill range u can get I can see her work
woeful plinth
yeah thats my hope
well I mean not really a hope
I probably will switch out when I get to farming
the problem is that you're stuck in one place when you use the skill too
did anyone who play the beta know how the gameplay was like back then?
was it team switching
or was it always just one character
rain drift
i have to investigate this
but it doesnt tell u fucking anything
im bouta mizkif myself
minor furnace
i don't think siki even knew tbh
he played it for like an hour, saw the mintpicking open areas and crashed out
slate current
do you need to actually pick mints for shit
or can you craft weapon/char just doing the dungeon
minor furnace
no idea, but i'm assuming it's there for a reason
i just hope that reason is extremely irrelevant lol
minor furnace
one thing's for sure though, at least for pr's sake they made a good decision to get rid of gacha
there's a looooot of complaints about the game i'm seeing in a lot of places, now imagine if there was a typical hoyo style gacha on top of that
cuz i'm pretty sure it did used to have the classic hoyo gacha
minor furnace
rly? i checked it like an hour ago and it's basically just everyone shitting on the game lol
shitting on the 3d models compared to the 2d art, shitting on the movement, shitting on its launch state etc
slate current
prerelease it was
minor furnace
honestly i thought the 3d models in general were fine
slate current
though on the discord its nonstop people comparing it to wuwa and shit
minor furnace
but they're right as far as rebecca goes tbh
slate current
because we have no mods
minor furnace
minor furnace
though on the discord its nonstop people comparing it to wuwa and shit
damn so it's either ppl comparing it to wuwa or ppl comparing it to warframe 
bitter sinew
I never played or watch any of warframe
but the game feels more like an old jrpg
just with a lot of CLAIM THIS CLAIM THAT, OPEN THIS TO CLAIM THIS
minor furnace
outside of the gearing system somewhat, some almost outright copied moves and the movement system it's honestly not rly like warframe at all
though i mean that's like half the actual gameplay with movement and some skills so that's still actually a fair bit
slate current
bullet jump is worse
but most of the units are legit just hybrids of frames from wf
minor furnace
but yeah everything other than the gameplay is not even comparable to warframe
minor furnace
the quest design, lvl design, ui, dailies and shit are all substantially different
slate current
you have mods, the symbols for discounted cost, forma, etc
trial rank is literally mastery rank
slate current
how is the quest design different tho
the game modes are identical to orokin vault
i guess the open world shit might not be
minor furnace
no as in actual quests not the missions
slate current
but they also added that open world planet shit after i stopped
all we are missing are archwings
minor furnace
sidequests and main quests go talk to him blabla, it's way more in line with the standard 3d gacha game quest designs
than warframe
slate current
yeah thats like the worst part of dna
minor furnace
like i sure as hell have not had to talk to an npc to go do a puzzle to unlock a chest and complete a sidequest in warframe
but i sure have done that in genshin at some point
that's what i mean with the quests, not the missions
some of the missions, more specifically the commissions so far have been the most fun cuz there's actual mobs in decent quantity there
bitter sinew
kinda funny everytime i open reddit i get recommended a post with "yeah guys the game has problems BUT its fun, right? im having fun haha, no gacha thoo"
In my opinion, I tried to get into the story and I couldn't. The first 4 hours were kinda meh
minor furnace
oh i skipped the story from the start ngl
slate current
i skipped the early story cuz i saw it already in beta
i like sped through a lot of the later story
its like ok enough for me to read but not all of it
bitter sinew
well, the story is the only thing I had hope to hook me
slate current
they talk too much
minor furnace
if by some miracle it turns out it's an actual good story then maybe i'll go back some time
but i already saw what is our paimon say and do stupid shit with a very high pitched voice
so you know i just have this feeling this probably won't be a top tier story
bitter sinew
In my case if I don't do the story i wouldn't know the characters, if I don't know the characters i don't feel like playing them, and if thats the case I don't see why keep playing
slate current
i just dont really care about story
i came in expecting warframe-esque
which also went downhill when they started doing that story shit
minor furnace
i care about story in story games, don't rly care about story in the vast, vast majority of ongoing live service games
where you get dripfed little bits of story every few months or get some stretched out arc across multiple years
bitter sinew
don't u guys feel unmotivated to play certain characters if you don't know their background or personality?
slate current
no lmao
minor furnace
me personally not at all, i care about design and most importantly gameplay/skills
bitter sinew
or maybe im too much of a story kind of player
slate current
if its useful ill play it
if its not it gets benched
would i like to play my waifu or whatever sure
but if she sucks
shes getting benched
it is what it is
minor furnace
also let's be real gacha games have so many characters that get pumped out constantly half of them end up being some random anime stereotype
that often times you understand their personality through playing them anyway
bitter sinew
well, aside wuwa i just play arknights. wuwa characters are kinda meh
slate current
wuwa characters to me are just
man (chinese)
woman (chinese)
other man (chinese)
that being said i dont play it
minor furnace
but yeah skills/gameplay are definitely the most important reasons
i'm still hoping for some warframe characters to just get put in this game
and then i hope i won't hate their design cuz they turned it into a little girl or some shit
minor furnace
i just hope mesa is good in this game
slate current
im a bit concerned
cuz the ult i think said
it shoots in FRONT
and not all around
minor furnace
yeah that's the same for mesa
idk how it is for the one in this game but your vision becomes smaller over time too with the one for warframe so you have even elss aoe the longer you go in exchange for increased dps
slate current
i swear mesa shot 360
minor furnace
a loooong time ago yeah
slate current
yeah when it was GOOD
if we have post nerf version already
no point getting it i guess
maybe i farm ac130
bitter sinew
that creature did not help 
minor furnace
w-what creature
and i think ac130 here has unlimited ammo
which makes her better than titania from warframe at least
god i dislike her ammo economy
slate current
its like duration or something idk
i never used titania for anything other htan healbot
minor furnace
i use her to speedrun some stages cuz she's the fastest character in the game provided you don't crash into every wall
can't complain about her dmg either, just the ammo that makes her annoying
but yeah titania is a godsend for fucking boring ass netracells
minor furnace
wait don't say that i wanted to get rhythm 
wraith igloo
her dash looks so weird thats all
its a dash but its like in youtube 0.5x speed
im going off cbt footage
minor furnace
i should honestly probably see what she plays like
i was just hoping she's volt tbh
but idek how impactful her ult buff is
minor furnace
yeah i thought her ult gave a movement speed buff
oh her mspd is a flat value that doesn't scale
yeah she is not volt
wraith igloo
its so over
trail temple
is there move speed buff in this game?
I saw a mov speed buff in the stealth guy
wraith igloo
shes stuck with that dog ass dash
wraith igloo
I saw a mov speed buff in the stealth guy
is it self buff
slate current
@minor furnace this shit is cooked
its post nerf
no 360
at least the fov doesnt shrink ig uess
you just hump a wall
minor furnace
yeah we knew that from the beta
it can still be good provided it does actual good dmg
and if you can just jerk the camera left to right and wipe shit
slate current
no thanks that requires being tabbed in
jellyfish girl it is
plop turrets
afk
oh yeah i got this
moustache
from the standard banner
minor furnace
jellyfish girl is companion character though, not main character
slate current
can you not play her onfield
minor furnace
i mean you can but if you rly wanna afk, which you can
you just let the ai plop the turret down
not like anything rly changes for you other than potentially picking better spots to put the turret down
which doesn't rly matter with enough range and/or dmg anyway so
woeful plinth
don't u guys feel unmotivated to play certain characters if you don't know their...
if theres a good story it motivates me more but otherwise as long as the gameplay is good I'll play it
patent pivot
don't u guys feel unmotivated to play certain characters if you don't know their...
It does add value to me but not a dealbreaker
woeful plinth
i will say its funny you guys get PTSD on paimon equivalent characters
patent pivot
i will say its funny you guys get PTSD on paimon equivalent characters
I honestly never get this, they're alright
woeful plinth
it just is
slate current
what are the cops doing
they cordoned off the crime scene and didnt investigate anything for FIVE days
when this serial killer has enough kills to call in an ac130 and is like 3 away from a nuke
bruh
what is this fucking
dangan ronpa ass cut in
woeful plinth
the music in this MSQ part sounds like i'm playing ff7 remake
rain drift
music was kinda decent
wraith igloo
the music in this MSQ part sounds like i'm playing ff7 remake
Dude its litterally ff7 part 1 music
woeful plinth
yeah
patent pivot
the music in this MSQ part sounds like i'm playing ff7 remake
in the intro i was thinking E33 with the string heavy arrangement lol
woeful plinth
it has combinations of parts of this song and the ff7 reactor infiltration music
homage/plagiarism aside I quite like this part of the MSQ
wraith igloo
slate current
Got to end of msq